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The Mistake Everybody Makes and Why
0:00There is this one mistake I see every
0:02single one of my coaching clients make
0:05and then the more they manage to fix it,
0:08the better the results they get.
0:10Addressing this one particular problem
0:12is what gets your relationship unstuck.
0:15The mistake I and almost everybody else
0:18made was I was waiting for my avoidant
0:21partner to lead. I was waiting for him
0:24to make up his mind about us, to
0:27initiate, to make plans, to bring up
0:30important topics, or to make important
0:33decisions such as commitment. It was
0:35almost as though he was my boss and I
0:39was a secretary waiting on him all the
0:42time. Hi guys, I'm Karolina and I used
0:45to be stuck deep in the anxious avoidant
0:48trap. My then avoidant boyfriend was
0:52unsure about everything about our
0:53relationship, kept on breaking up with
0:56me, but then we figured things out. Now
0:59we're married, and we run this YouTube
1:01channel together where we talk about
1:02attachment styles and breakups. So, why
1:05do we do this? Why do anxious people
1:08allow for such an unequal power dynamic
1:11when we're dating an avoidant? Usually
1:14relationships start on a more equal note
1:17where the power between the two of you
1:20is more balanced and you're both equal
1:24partners and decision makers in your
1:27relationship. However, I know for a lot
1:31of you guys, and this was the case for
1:34me too, this dynamic, this looking up to
1:39the avoidant as the leader was actually
1:42the initial appeal of this person to me.
1:46Maybe you're someone who takes on a lot
1:49of responsibility in your life. That was
1:52certainly the case for me. I'm a big
1:54sister. So, I would take on the big
1:57sister role everywhere I went. I'd take
2:00it on at work. I'd take it on in any
2:02group project in my family, too. So,
2:06when Gabriel and I first started dating,
2:10he was like a breath of fresh air. He
2:12wanted to lead. He wanted to take
2:14control. And I was happy to give it up.
2:18It was something new to me. this
2:21employee boss dynamic that a lot of us
2:25tend to develop with our avoidant
2:27partners. You might think this is
2:29something typical to women, but it's
2:31not. I actually coach a lot of very
2:34successful men who have control over
2:39everything in their life or manage a lot
2:41of people yet with their partner. this
2:45dynamic flips and suddenly they want to
2:48be in this follower role. Everybody
2:50needs an area in their life where they
2:52can be weak, where they can be
2:54vulnerable, where they can just follow
2:56and trust someone else and and kind of
2:59surrender to this other person. I think
3:02that's why a lot of us do this. That's
3:04why we end up looking up to the avoidant
3:07and waiting for them to lead. So for
3:10Gabriel and me, that's how things
3:12started out. It worked out great. And
3:15that's the thing with this dynamic that
3:17it can work incredibly well as long as
3:21the person who's leading and you have
3:24the same goals and the same
3:26expectations, when you want the same
3:28things, when you're happy with the
3:29leadership they're providing.
3:32But the problems will start piling up
3:36when your needs and expectations
3:39diverge. When they want something else
3:42than you do, and you're in this employee
3:45role, waiting on the avoidant, the
3:49leader, to do what you want them to do,
3:52and you feel powerless, and you get
3:54anxious, which only reinforces this
3:57unhealthy dynamic between the two of
3:59you. But it's not all because of you.
4:02It's not all because you want to put
4:04your avoidant on a pedestal and give up
4:07power and control and let them lead.
4:09Avoidance often do want to have control.
4:13They want to be the leader. This is why
4:16anxious avoidant dynamics can work so
4:19well in the beginning because you want
4:22to give up control. They want to have
4:24control. It's a win-win. It feels like
4:28it's a great combination that you're an
4:30amazing match that you just click. And
4:34here I want to talk a little bit more
4:37about why avoidance have this need for
4:39control. Much like you as the anxious
4:42person have your preference that might
4:45come from the circumstances you're in or
4:48your upbringing. The same is true for
4:50the avoidant. Avoidant attachment
4:53develops because of a person's past. So
4:56avoidants have had bad experiences in
5:00their previous relationships. Maybe they
5:03had a controlling partner or maybe they
5:06have a controlling parent and this is
5:09where their need for control comes from.
5:12That's why they might seek to be in this
5:15role of a leader and want to make all
5:18the decisions in your relationship. So,
5:20this mistake most anxious people make in
5:23their relationship when they're waiting
5:25for their avoidant partner to lead is
5:27two-sided. On one hand, you as the
5:30anxious person want to give up power and
5:33control, and on the other hand, your
5:36avoidant partner might seek power and
5:39control over you so that they can feel
5:42safe in your relationship. This dynamic
5:45where they're leading and you're
5:47following works great as long as you
5:50both want the same things. As long as
5:53you're both happy with the pace that the
5:55relationship is going or with the
5:57direction that they're taking you.
5:59That's why honeymoon phase for anxious
6:02avoidant couples is always perfect and
6:06everything seems effortless and
6:09everything just works because it does
6:12because you both want the same things.
6:15So the employee boss relationship
6:18is fine because you as the employee, you
6:21as the anxious follower are happy with
6:24where the boss, the avoidant is taking
6:26you. But that can never last forever.
6:30Problems always start when the avoidance
6:34wants and preferences become different
6:37than what you want. And that's also when
6:40this boss employee like relationship
6:44becomes extremely problematic. As long
6:46as you're in this employee role, you're
6:49going to feel powerless. You're going to
6:51feel anxious. You're going to have the
6:54urge to chase and desperately cling and
6:57do things that may be out of your
7:00character to try to influence your
7:02avoidant partner. And they will keep on
7:05dismissing you because much like a boss,
7:09they'll feel like they have the power
7:12and control, so you can't do anything
7:14about it. And they'll continue insisting
7:16on what they want, and they'll continue
7:18doing what suits them. I imagine most of
How You're Reinforcing This Dynamic
Why It's Hard To Know Which Is Yours
7:22you guys who are watching this video are
7:25already stuck in this dynamic. You're
7:28already wondering when is my avoidant
7:30partner going to reach out? What can I
7:33do to get my avoidant to choose me, to
7:36make up his or her mind about me? How do
7:39I get them in touch with their feelings
7:41for me? This way of relating to your
7:44avoidant partner is this big mistake.
7:47You're waiting on them. You're
7:49reinforcing this dynamic. You're giving
7:53them complete decision making power over
7:56you and your relationship. You're
7:58obsessing over them. You're reinforcing
8:02their leadership position. I did this
8:04and that's what kept me stuck in the
8:07breakup makeup cycle for a year and a
8:10half. I kept on fluctuating between
8:12being like a love struck puppy and doing
8:16no contact, hoping that Gabriel will
8:20magically change his mind or grow up.
8:23Our relationship started moving
8:26backwards in many ways. Things were only
8:28getting worse and worse. And I know it's
8:31the same for you guys. And that's
8:33because avoidance can't be trusted to
8:36lead. They can't be given all the power.
8:40They have flaws. They have issues. They
8:43procrastinate. They will keep your
8:46relationship stuck or they'll drive you
8:48away with their dismissive behavior. If
8:51they're leaning, fearful avoidant, they
8:54will keep your relationship stuck
8:56forever. And if they're dismissive
8:59avoidant, they'll drive you away by
9:02dismissing you, ignoring you, and
9:03rejecting you. Much like democracies
9:06tend to produce better results than
9:08dictatorships. The same way
9:11relationships work better when the power
9:14is split between two partners. When it's
9:16not one person leading and the other one
9:18following, but when it's a partnership,
9:21when you're both having a say, an equal
9:24decision making input over what will
How To Fix It
9:27happen. So, how do you fix it? How do
9:30you fix this mistake of endlessly
9:32waiting for an avoidant to lead? First
9:35off, you need to stop blaming the
9:38avoidant for being a bad leader and
9:41start blaming yourself for putting them
9:43in that position to begin with. Yes,
9:46avoidants do play power games. Yes, they
9:49can be dismissive, rejecting, and
9:52um threaten to walk away to get you to
9:56accept certain things that you normally
9:58wouldn't put up with. However, you need
10:01to keep in mind you're both consenting
10:04adults here and your partner has no real
10:08power over you other than the power that
10:11you choose to give him or her. You're
10:14the one putting them on the pedestal.
10:17You're the one giving up control. You're
10:20also the one who needs to start setting
10:23up standards in your relationship and
10:25deciding what kind of behaviors you're
10:27going to put up with and what is
10:30unacceptable for you. I know a lot of
10:33married people keep on looking for
10:36someone to influence their partner
10:39without realizing they are the ones who
10:42have most influence over their spouse.
10:45As long as your avoidant partner
10:48actually cares about you, you do have
10:51power over them, you just need to dare
10:54to see it and also learn to wield it.
10:57But let's address the elephant in the
10:59room. So the reason why us anxious
11:02people don't insist on things or are
11:05afraid of taking charge in a
11:07relationship is because avoidance often
11:10threaten with abandonment when you're
11:13not giving them what they want. So,
11:14let's say you want to see your partner
11:17more than once in a week and they don't
11:22want to prioritize you quite as much or
11:25they don't want to commit to a set
11:28amount of time spent with you. If you
11:31keep on insisting, if you keep on
11:34saying, "This is a hard limit for me,"
11:37your avoidant partner will inevitably
11:41pull their ultimate power move. They'll
11:43say, "I can't give you what you need.
11:45This cannot work out. We're not good for
11:49each other. We want different things."
11:52When this happens, you need to be the
11:54one who insists on a certain standard in
11:58your relationship. And if your partner
12:02is willing to walk away from you over
12:05something seemingly small, you have to
12:08let them. You need to recognize that as
12:12long as you're waiting on your avoidant
12:15partner to lead all the time, they'll
12:17never going to change. They'll never
12:20give you what you want because they
12:22won't have to. It is in these conflicts.
12:25It is in you insisting on a certain
12:28standard or on certain things in your
12:31relationship and then letting the
12:33avoidant walk away if they refuse to
12:36accept
12:38what you're asking for that you can have
12:41the kind of confrontation that might
12:44result in actually something changing in
12:46your relationship. There is no way
12:49around it. You need to take charge. You
12:52need to become your own leader. make
12:55your own decisions. But in order to be
12:59able to do this, in order to be able to
13:02step into this more empowered role, you
13:05first need to ask yourself a very
13:07vulnerable question, which is why am I
13:10putting up with this? So this is what I
13:13did. This was part of my journey. When
13:16Gabriel and I were stuck in this
13:17anxious, avoidant breakup makeup cycle,
13:21at some point I asked myself, why do I
13:24allow him to do this? Why do I keep on
13:28letting him break up with me and then
13:30taking him back? What is wrong with me?
13:33I did some therapy at the time. I also
13:35journaled a lot about it. And I came to
13:39conclude that I believe drama is a sign
13:44of true love. My parents' marriage was
13:47quite traumatic. So I guess that's where
13:51I learned it. And that's why the fact
13:54that Gabriel didn't keep on rejecting me
13:57but then kept on coming back was
14:01something in some ways I sought after.
14:05Realizing this was a gamecher and it was
14:10completely necessary for me to stop
14:12making this mistake of waiting for
14:15Gabriel to lead all the time. I saw I
14:18was on rails and I was just repeating
14:20something that felt somewhat familiar
14:23and it was dissecting it and going into
14:26it that allowed me to take a step back
14:28and re-evaluate whether I really wanted
14:31it or not. And after thinking about it,
14:34I concluded, yes, at some point I did
14:36think that drama was somehow proof of
14:39true love. However, I don't believe this
14:43anymore and I don't want it anymore. And
14:46because I don't want it, I need to take
14:48steps to prevent it from happening. I
14:53need to take steps to ensure that I can
14:57do something to protect myself from
15:00being hurt again. As long as I was
15:02clutching onto Gabriel like a love
15:04struck puppy, I was on this roller
15:07coaster with him and he could take me
15:09wherever he wanted to, wherever his and
15:11my trauma was making us go. But I had
15:14the power to get off the roller coaster.
15:17And that's what I did after a third
15:19breakup. I decided enough is enough. And
15:24that's when I did the soulsearching and
15:26that's when I did the therapy. One of
15:29the things that helped me take the power
15:31and control back was I concluded I
15:35needed something else. Something else I
15:37could commit to to distract me or to
15:41take me away from our anxious avoided
15:44drama. I joined a charity project and I
15:47was hoping that it will provide
15:51emotional fulfillment. it will give me
15:54something else I can dedicate my
15:56attention and my heart to so that I
15:59manage to deprioritize our relationship
16:02so that I'm not obsessing over Gabriel
16:03all the time. This was an active choice
16:06I made because I concluded it was
16:09necessary. And in some ways that's what
16:12changed everything because suddenly I
16:15was no longer just waiting for Gabriel
16:18to lead all the time. I was my own
16:20leader. I was making my own decisions. I
16:22didn't consult with him to do any of it.
16:24I committed to going to India for two
16:27months without discussing it with him.
16:29He only found out after the fact. So
16:32what I did was quite extreme. Most of
16:34you do not need to resort to anything
16:37nearly as extreme as this. It's often
16:41about subtle shifts, little ways in
16:44which you make your partner feel like
16:46they're no longer the boss of you. I'll
16:48now give you guys some typical examples.
16:51I help my coaching clients with areas in
16:54which they took the power back that
16:56totally transformed their relationship.
Making Your Own Plans
16:59The number one easiest thing you can do
17:01to stop just waiting on your avoidant
17:04partner to lead is by making your own
17:08plans and not consulting with them. I
17:10know a lot of you guys keep on waiting.
17:13I did too. And you keep your schedule
17:16open in case your avoidant reaches out.
17:19you put off things or you depprioritize
17:22other people because you hope that maybe
17:25they'll decide last minute to do
17:27something. You plan your life around
17:30your avoidant partner. That's the
17:32mistake. That's when they're your boss
17:35and you're like the secretary who needs
17:36to wait on them. And this is one of the
17:39simplest areas where you can change this
17:42dynamic, where you can step up and start
17:46treating your avoidant partner like an
17:48equal. So make your own plans. Don't
17:51consult with them. Don't ask their
17:54permission. Don't plan around them. Just
17:57decide what you want to do and
18:00[clears throat] then go and do it. And
18:01that might be about a vacation. It might
18:04be about
18:06starting a new hobby or changing jobs,
18:09moving. Avoidance want you to be
18:12independent. The second big way in which
Taking Charge of Communication
18:15anxious people keep on waiting for
18:17avoidance to lead is communication. And
18:20this is also an easy fix. This is also
18:23something I teach my coaching clients to
18:27do. That's where no contact actually can
18:31be a bit damaging because people do no
18:36contact often as a means of just waiting
18:39for the avoidant to reach out. You
18:41should be the one with an equal say of
18:44the pace of your communication.
18:46Sometimes avoidance want to purposely
18:49keep things more and more distant and
18:52they'll keep you waiting and you'll feel
18:54like is this even a relationship or are
18:57we even still together or have they
19:00moved on completely? But by waiting and
19:03no contact you're kind of still keeping
19:06their way back in and letting them hold
19:09the reigns. Same thing. you're waiting
19:12for an avoidant to lead versus if you
19:14yourself decide, okay, we had this
19:17breakup, we had this argument, but now I
19:19feel like the dust is settled. Let me
19:21reach out and see if my avoidant partner
19:25is ready to talk or not. That's how you
19:28can take the power back. That's how you
19:30can stop relating to them as though
19:32they're your boss and start relating to
19:34them as though they're your partner.
19:37That's what you do with a friend, right?
19:39You wouldn't just endlessly wait on a
19:41friend to reach out to you. If you want
19:44to talk to someone, you just text them.
19:47And if you want to communicate
19:49something, if you feel like they did
19:52something unfair, you also just tell
19:54them. So that's the second aspect of
19:58communication where anxious people tend
20:00to give avoidance the reigns. They
20:03purposely hide things and pretend like
20:06everything's okay even when they are
20:08upset, even when they are hurting from
20:11something that the avoidant did. And
20:13again, yes, we do it because avoidants
20:16are dismissive or because they will
20:18threaten with abandonment if you express
20:20something you're hurt about. However,
20:23you staying quiet and not standing up
20:26and not speaking up for yourself is also
20:28your own choice. And it's also something
20:32you need to take responsibility for. And
20:35that's another one of these classic ways
20:37in which people can suddenly shift the
20:41power dynamic by calling your avoidant
20:44out by pointing out their toxic
20:47behaviors or by pointing out when they
20:49do something that's unfair. Will your
20:51avoidant like it? No. Of course not.
20:54Nobody likes to be told off. But just
20:58because they don't like it doesn't mean
21:01they don't need it. Just because
21:03avoidance want to have all the decision
21:06power and control in a relationship
21:09doesn't mean it's good for them. Much
21:11like I might want to have Nutella for
21:13dinner. If I actually do this, if I
21:16actually just sit with a tub of Nutella
21:19and eat it with a spoon, it will make me
21:22feel sick. The same way if you keep on
21:25waiting for your avoidant partner to
21:28lead, it will make them sick too. It
21:31will make them more avoidant. It will
21:32make them more dismissive or it will
21:34make them more fearful. They need your
21:36resistance. Everybody wants a
21:39partnership. They want someone they can
21:42rely on and someone they can lean on,
21:45not someone who will endlessly lean on
21:47them and wait on them. So this is what I
21:51did. I started taking charge and taking
21:55responsibility for my relationship. I
21:58started making an effort to communicate
22:01more and more and to stand my ground. I
22:04started making my own decisions. I made
22:07plans without asking Gabriel's
22:10permission without even checking in with
22:12him because we were broken up at the
22:14time. But then in the relationship once
22:17we got back together, I didn't revert to
22:20the old ways. And and sometimes I could
22:23see, okay, he's keeping me waiting on
22:26purpose. And then I'd purposely make
22:29other commitments so that when he does
22:32want to do something last minute, I'm
22:34not going to be available. If you want
22:37your anxious, avoidant relationship to
22:40work out, you need to step out. You need
22:43to play ball. You can't just endlessly
22:46let your avoidant partner walk all over
22:49you and then bombard them with love in
22:52the hopes that they'll finally be the
22:54person you need them to be so that you
22:57can feel secure and loved. You're both
23:00part of this dynamic. You're both
23:03responsible for changing and fixing it.
23:05Stepping up and taking responsibility in
23:08your relationship is a process. We can
23:11help you fix this very mistake with our
23:14attach and avoidant program. Here we
23:16provide a step-by-step guide on how you
23:19can take more and more control so that
23:22you're no longer just expecting your
23:24partner to lead, but instead you're
23:27gently leading them to a place you're
23:30both wanting to be in. For all of you
23:32guys who are interested, I'll link our
23:34program in the description of this
23:35video. If you found this helpful,
23:38definitely check out my husband's video
23:40on what made him choose me. That's where
23:43you can see the avoidant side of the
23:46story and how this mistake that us
23:48anxious people keep on making is making
23:51them feel. Thank you for watching.
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