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It's $5 Tuesday!
0:03Okay, welcome in. It's Tuesday. It's
0:05time for Total Bases. It's $5 Tuesday at
0:08Wager Talk. The three of us will have
0:10stuff up for sale. Um, Tokyo Brandon, I
0:13know you had a great weekend. Did it
0:15continue into Monday night. How was your
0:16night?
0:18>> It actually did. Uh, I had the uh the
0:21over in the uh Tigers game. That was a
0:24pretty easy one. Eight was way too low
0:26for that one, I thought. So, that was
0:28good. And now my Asian plays. Yeah, I'm
0:31kind of winning a couple of the big
0:34ones, losing a couple of the little
0:35ones. So, I think I'm going to come out
0:36with a profit here as well this morning.
0:40>> Brian, uh, quiet night for me. Didn't
0:42get there with any plays on last night's
0:44slate. Um, so yeah, I didn't lose
0:46anything. That's good news. Um, how was
0:48your Monday? Did you find anything to
0:49bet on?
0:50>> No, I knew early on that I wasn't going
0:53to have anything. Nothing fit into my
0:55numbers. And uh I'm willing to pass when
0:58I don't find anything. And uh giving
1:01winners to my clients is more important
1:03than any kind of money we could have
1:04made from making any sales. So yeah,
1:07we're we're in this for the long haul.
1:09And I think everybody that's watched
1:10this show long enough knows we're all
1:12three of us in that that same way. Um
1:15but yeah, I didn't find anything
1:16yesterday and uh yeah, good thing I
1:18didn't play anything.
1:21>> Yeah, I uh I same thing for me. Um,
1:24obviously in hindsight, kind of wish I
1:26played the Tigers. Uh, it was the one
1:27thing I sort of talked about on the show
1:29and that ended up being an easy win. Uh,
1:31but, you know, not going to force it.
1:33Couldn't get there with it. Um, and so
1:35we move on to today. I will say this, I
1:37have a 5% MLB play up today. Now, it's
1:40$5 Tuesday. That won't be part of $5
1:43Tuesday, but um, they extended the
1:45coupon code Adam10 for one more day. So,
1:49if you want the 5enter, it's going to be
1:52full price on the site, but coupon code
1:54Adam10 at least knocks $10 off. So, it's
1:57uh you know, it'll it's a discounted 5%.
1:59Um and and you know what? I also just to
2:02make it worth your while am going to
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2:06that's not going to cost you any
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2:14play. All right, we are going to get
Rays/Yankees (Game 1 and Game 2)
2:17started with the double header today.
2:19It's Yankees Rays. Uh game two is nally
2:22televised. Game one is standalone. Uh
2:25it's the only day game on Thursday's
2:27slate. So Brian, I'll come to you first.
2:29Um open it up. Game one or game two. Are
2:33you seeing any way to get involved with
2:35the Yankees or the Rays uh in this
2:37double header today?
2:39>> Well, first of all, I'll head to the
2:41weather situation here. Uh especially
2:43with the wind, there's a lot of wind
2:45going on blowing in um in double digits
2:49in a few different parks. You're going
2:51to see some lines and you're going to
2:52say, "Wait a minute, why is that total
2:54only seven and a half or whatever?" Uh
2:56PNC Park is blowing in and they're
2:59expecting 11% less runs. Fenway Park 11%
3:02which is why we're seeing a six and a
3:04half in Fenway Park that we never see.
3:08Um and of course Seattle's blowing in.
3:10Yankee Stadium is blowing in 18%.
3:13They're expecting one and a half less
3:15runs a game. That's something to keep in
3:16mind here. And Wrigley Field blowing
3:19straight in. Not blowing hard, but still
3:2120% uh wind uh blowing in. So they're
3:25they're expecting like two less runs
3:27there. So keep that in mind when you're
3:29looking at some of these numbers. You
3:30go, "Oh my god, look at that number. I
3:32got to play with that over." Um so we're
3:35looking at Tampa Bay and the Yankees.
3:36They're playing two games here. Um,
3:38Tampa Bay has won six of the nine games
3:41on the season. Um, I have to feel that
3:45this these two games are much more
3:48important to the Yankees than they are
3:49to Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay is playing great
3:52going into the playoffs. The Yankees
3:54not so much. And I think the Yankees
3:57need to uh need to at least split this
3:59series today or possibly win them both.
4:03I prefer the Yankees in both these
4:05games, but the only way you're going to
4:07end up with a profit in that is if they
4:08sweep. And Tampa Bay is too good for me
4:12to expect them to be swept. So, um, my
4:15my leans are with the Yankees. Yankees
4:17are going with a couple of lefties. They
4:19got Rodone in game one against Martinez
4:21and in game two, they're going with
4:23Freed against Rasmusen. Uh, two guys for
4:26Tampa Bay having great seasons. Uh,
4:29don't know how long they will keep them
4:30in there. I I would assume uh they Tampa
4:35Bay is going to start cutting back down
4:36on their starting pitching uh innings.
4:39So if you're betting on anybody getting
4:41a a victory in that regard, um I I keep
4:46that in mind for everybody the rest of
4:47the season. We're already seeing a lot
4:49of teams, you know, the Dodgers bringing
4:52up guys and and Detroit brought up uh
4:54you know, the guy yesterday pitched
4:56really well for first three innings. So
4:58a lot of teams doing that. They're
4:59cutting back on how long these guys are
5:01going to pitch. So, uh, keep that in
5:03mind if you do bet. Um, chances of
5:06somebody getting the victory, keep that
5:08in mind. It's going to be lower now. Uh,
5:11so basically, I like the Yankees, but I
5:13can't get there because they'd have to
5:14sweep to order to make a profit. So,
5:16I'll pass.
5:18Tokyo Brandon, game one, game two,
5:21Yankees raised. We know the pitching
5:23matchups in both. Are you targeting
5:25anything here?
5:27>> Quick promotion. It is $2
5:30Tuesday, guys. And we were notified that
5:32the double play and triple play specials
5:35will be uh finished on September 24th.
5:39So, it is a good time to get a double
5:40play. Two of us. And if you saw Wager
5:44Talks uh Twitter X feed, you saw that
5:46Adam and I are vying for second place
5:48among the 33 cappers in profit. Uh both
5:51of us are over 80 units. Uh Brian is
5:53number one the last 18 months, I
5:55believe. So, all of us
5:56>> last month. Yeah.
5:57>> 13. Okay. So, uh, can't really go wrong
6:00with either two of us. So, grab a double
6:02play before it expires. I have a few
6:04plays up for $5 Tuesday. I'm sure my
6:06comrades here will. Also, I'm going to
6:09do an Asian baseball show tonight at
6:118:00 p.m. Eastern. Just letting you know
6:13on my channel. So, let's get on with
6:16this. Uh, the Dodgers and the I'm sorry,
6:19the Yankees and the Rays. Um, nobody's
6:22bullpin's playing better than the Rays
6:23according to my numbers. uh got them
6:25ranked number one in MLB right now in
6:28current form. Uh Yankees toiling in
6:31mediocrity, but the Yankees have the
6:33lineup advantage. Have them hitting
6:35eight in MLB where I got the Rays a
6:38little lower in mediocrity as well.
6:41Starting pitchers for the first one,
6:42Nick Martinez, Carlos Rodone. I don't
6:44see a lot of separation between these
6:46two guys. So, I'm not going to play game
6:48one, but game two kind of interests me
6:50because we've got Freed going against
6:54Raspersonson. These are two stellar
6:57starting pitchers. Uh they might not be,
6:59you know, top five elite elite guys, but
7:02they're definitely uh in in the top
7:05echelon of pitchers in in Major League
7:08Baseball. Uh Rays, the Rays are
7:11producing runs, but they're not exactly
7:13uh crushing the ball right now. So, I
7:15might think about a raise team total
7:18under in that one. Or I might consider a
7:20first five under in the second game, not
7:23the first. But these two pitchers are
7:25pitching really well. And no matter how
7:26quickly they get taken out, uh I I think
7:30they'll let them go five innings. And
7:32even if they don't let them go five
7:33innings, you know, this Tampa Bay
7:35bullpen is just on fire. So, I think in
7:39the second game, I'll think about doing
7:40a first five under.
7:44>> All right. So, I did play in this double
7:46header. Um, and just if you So, we have,
7:48you know, we enter our plays into the
7:51website and then you guys get them. Ju
7:53just to give you an idea of how like
7:55strong and sophisticated our back-end
7:57software is. Like you you should rarely
7:59or almost never get a stale line because
8:02they they change like in real time. So,
8:04like I'm going to put this play in and
8:07within the time that I'm like typing it
8:09just literally entering into the system.
8:11Uh it not only did it move 10 cents on
8:14the screens, it moved 10 cents on our
8:16backend system. So like you know that
8:18just to you where you're getting those
8:19lines. You should never see a line that
8:21you couldn't have gotten. Now this one
8:23uh m point I didn't get it in before the
8:26line sort of ticked up. So I played the
8:28Yankees. So this is what you're getting
8:29for free here today. Again, I got the 5%
8:32play um up for later tonight. Coupon
8:34code Adam10 gets you $10 off. I'm also
8:37giving you a 4% play in Yanke in game
8:40one of this double header. I played
8:41Yankees game one. Here I am. Thumbs
8:44weren't fast enough, Brian. I thought I
8:45was getting minus 115 and before I could
8:49even hit submit, it's already minus25.
8:51Not only on everywhere pretty much, but
8:54actually that's not true. You can find
8:56some minus 120s right now. Uh but our
8:58back end had updated that quickly. So
9:00hopefully a move point. Hopefully it
9:02doesn't matter if the Yankees win. We're
9:04still cashing for four units. So, uh,
9:06but that's what I've got. Reason reason
9:08I like the Yankees here. So, go back a
9:10couple weeks. I, you know, the Yankees
9:12aren't going to win the division
9:13anymore. I thought they had a chance.
9:15Uh, if you go back a week, a week maybe,
9:17I I forget when we talked about that.
9:20The reason I thought the Yankees were
9:21going to have a chance is I thought they
9:22would get to this series uh, closer than
9:25they are. Of course, the weekend made
9:27sure that didn't happen. Yankees dropped
9:29two in Arizona. Rays win two um, win
9:32their last two games. And going back
9:34into the early se portion of last week,
9:37the Ray the Rays just took care of
9:38business. They never lost to the A's and
9:40they built themselves up a nice cushion.
9:42So the Yankees are not probably not
9:44playing for anything here. But I'll tell
9:46you what, I don't think the Yankees are
9:48are I don't think they want the Rays
9:50celebrating on on their field in their
9:53locker room. I'm sure if the Yanke I'm
9:55sure the Yankees are like, "Hey, let's
9:58at least make them sweat a little bit,
9:59right?" like Yankees were to go out and
10:01sweep a four game series, they would go
10:03into the final weekend where the Rays
10:05still have to do something. Uh that, you
10:08know, they probably will, but then
10:10again, the Rays have to go to Philly
10:12this weekend. So, it's a it's kind of a
10:14pipe dream for the Yankees at this
10:15point. But I think the motivation here
10:17for the Yankees is far more, hey, like
10:20this is our house. We're at home. We
10:22just played not very good baseball the
10:25last two days in Arizona. let's at least
10:27come out and and not let this team
10:30celebrate an AL East title on our field.
10:32Uh so that's what puts me in just from a
10:35situational standpoint on the Yankees.
10:37And then from a matchup standpoint, I
10:39far prefer game one here. I'm really
10:42hoping the Yankees get it done in game
10:44one so I can just ignore game two
10:46because I think game two is a is a
10:47little bit of a tighter matchup. But you
10:49know, you got Carlos Rodone against Nick
10:52Martinez.
10:53Nick Martinez had a tremendous season,
10:55but I do think that there's still some,
10:58>> it's not that I think he regresses at
11:00this point, but I'll go back to a point
11:02I made on Friday with the Yankees where
11:04>> they they just pounded Eduardo Rodriguez
11:07and it's like Nick Martinez, I think you
11:09can get away like you can get away with
11:11the way he pitches at the Trop and
11:14against certain teams, but like I don't
11:16think the Yankees are one of those teams
11:17where he's going to get away with just
11:20generating a lot of contact, not having
11:22the ball leave the ballpark like the the
11:25Yankees, in my opinion, are in position
11:27to make him pay. And finally, this
11:30Yankees lineup sets up better against
11:32right-handed pitching. So, I'm in with
11:34the Yankees here. I took Yankees minus
11:38125. Thought I was going to get minus
11:40115, but no. Quick move to minus 125.
11:43Uh, you can still find minus 120s out
11:45there. We have to quote the very, very
11:48widely available book. So all of the
11:50lines that we quote on the site is
11:51typically going to be DraftKings,
11:53FanDuel, Caesars, MG. I'm the ones that
11:55like pretty much everyone can get. So
11:57minus 125 for me on the Yankees in game
12:00one. But shop that around because I'm
12:02still looking at my screen right now. I
12:04see minus 120s, maybe even a minus19,
12:07minus18 out there. Uh so yeah, I like
12:09the Yankees. I think they at least make
12:12the Rays sweat a little bit into the
12:13night cap and win the afternoon game.
12:17Okay, that also is going to be my leg of
12:19the parlay. I should have pointed that
12:20out. I will use Yankees game one. Brian,
12:23am I is it What are we looking at for
12:25widely available right now?
12:27>> 125. Yeah.
12:29>> Yeah. And and listen, if you subscribe
12:31to again there was a that moved 10 cents
12:35very quickly um from I I think at about
12:388:30. I was going to punch it in maybe
12:408:40 um right before the show. quick
12:4410-cent move across some of the bigger
12:46books. So, do what you will with that.
12:50But yeah, for the parlay, we will go
12:51Yankees game one
12:54and that's minus 125. So, we've got my
12:56parlay leg out of the way. That is a 4%
12:59client play for me. I'm giving it to you
13:01for free today because I have a 5enter
13:04up tonight. It obviously is not part of
13:07$5 Tuesday, but you can use coupon code
13:10Adam10 to get $10 off. Okay. Hot start
13:13to the show. Let's go back to the chat.
White Sox/Royals
13:15Alex Ran checking in. Appreciate the
13:18donation. All the donations to the show
13:20as always go to one of the charities
13:22that the home office works with. So,
13:24thank you very much for the donation. He
13:26says, "Morning fellas. Important games
13:28going today. I'm torn on two." So,
13:30whichever uh you have more of a lean on
13:33is much appreciated. Mets Rangers or
13:37White Socks Royals? Brian, dealer's
13:40choice to you. Which game do you want to
13:41talk about more, Mets, Rangers or White
13:43Sox Royals? You pick.
13:45>> Let's Let's go to the White Sox Royals
13:46because this will be my part of the
13:48parlay. Uh we're going with Kay and
13:51Lynch. A couple of lefties going K and
13:53Lynch. And uh Kay is about a one
13:57115 favorite right now with a total of
14:00eight to the under. Um let me just get
14:04quickly to those team pages here.
14:10Um, if you've been following me at all
14:13this year, you know I've been playing
14:15the White Sox games over when they have
14:17a day off. They had yesterday they had a
14:19day off and we're getting a number here.
14:22Um, I'm seeing even some seven and a
14:24halfs minus, you know, 113. Well,
14:27actually 120 on some 7 and 1 halfs. Um,
14:32I am going to play this game over. Uh
14:34the White Sox have been hitting well all
14:36season long after they've had that day
14:38off. And I and I will point out that
14:41yes, the winds are blowing in slightly,
14:43but they're only expecting a half a run
14:45differential.
14:47It's blowing straight in, but they're
14:49they're weak numbers in that regard.
14:54Are we anybody else hearing that?
14:57>> Yeah, I don't know where that's coming
14:58from. Tokyo, mute yourself for one
15:01second. I just want to test something.
15:06We have a little feedback here.
15:08>> I think it's probably on Tokyo Brandon's
15:10end because I'm not hearing it now.
15:12Yeah.
15:12>> So, go ahead.
15:14>> We'll give him a second to fix that.
15:15Keep your keep your breakdown going.
15:17>> Yeah, no problem. Uh, so the winds are
15:19blowing in slightly. They're expecting a
15:20half a run less than normal, but the way
15:23since Chicago's hit with after that day
15:25off here, um, Lynch is a guy who's
15:28they've been stretching him out. He's
15:30had his good starts and his bad starts.
15:32Anthony Kay, very similar. So, we're
15:35getting, you know, an eight an eight to
15:37the under here with what I would
15:39consider two average starting pitchers
15:42in Major League Baseball if I give them
15:44that kind of a break. Um, in a ballpark
15:47that they move the fences in and, uh,
15:49it's more of a home run hitting
15:51ballpark. But yes, this the wind is
15:53blowing in a little bit, but I think
15:54they're overreacting here. And as I see
15:56another another place go to seven and a
15:59half here. So now there's as many seven
16:01and a halfs as there is ace. A lot of
16:03people early on betting this under. I'
16:06like to play contrarian. So I'm going to
16:08play this game over.
16:10Uh the white Let's take a look at what
16:11they've done against lefties on the
16:13season. The White Sox have a 109 uh WRC
16:16plus. The the U Royals haven't been as
16:18good. They're at 91 as opposed to 100.
16:21Uh so if you add those up, it's a it's a
16:24league average game. So the, you know,
16:26comes up to 200, which is which is
16:29league average. And I just don't think
16:31that uh these pitchers are strong enough
16:34even with the wind blowing it at, you
16:36know, just 6 miles an hour or something.
16:38That's not enough to make a
16:39differential. So I am going to take
16:41advantage of all these books going down
16:43and I'm going to play the over and I can
16:46get uh seven overs minus 120. 7 and a
16:49half, excuse me. Seven and a half overs
16:51minus 120 at half the books. Yeah, I'm
16:53going to go with that. Uh, I've seen it
16:55enough to the White Sox games. Like I
16:57said, I think it's 19 straight times
16:59they've had a day off. The next day they
17:01come out and it goes over. Don't believe
17:03in either one of these pitchers being
17:04that great. So, yeah, if I can get eight
17:07runs here, go three to three. We're in
17:09pretty good shape. So, I'll play the
17:10over on that one.
17:13>> All right, let's get Tokyo Brandon back
17:14in. I think I think he's probably fixed
17:16whatever that was. So, let's uh let's
17:18get you in here on White Socks Royals.
17:20How are you seeing this one?
17:21>> Yeah. Um, sorry, I punched my microphone
17:25by accident, so maybe that's what caused
17:27it. I was grabbing my water. But
17:29anyways, um, I totally agree with Brian.
17:32I don't really have much else to add
17:34except that I think Anthony K has had a
17:36good season, but I think he's been
17:38really lucky because my advanced numbers
17:40have him ranked 24th out of 30. So, uh,
17:43on a scale of 30, uh, both of these
17:46bullpens are 23rd or worse. Uh lineups.
17:50I don't have huge faith in the lineups,
17:53but anyone in MLB should be able to
17:55score seven runs when you put two teams
17:57together with these horrible bullpens
18:00and two starters that I really don't
18:02like. Um Lynch is walking way too many
18:05people. He's walking 64% of the guys
18:07he's striking out. Uh Kay has his
18:10command so so under control, but like I
18:12said, his advanced stance stats point to
18:17him being extremely lucky. And uh I
18:20don't think he's at that good to be
18:22honest. So uh I totally agree with
18:25Brian's over. I I I see it eight. I see
18:28it seven and a half. Whatever you can
18:29get. I think this this looks like one of
18:31those 10 to six kind of games to me.
18:35>> Yeah. I I I mean, listen, seven and a
18:38half starts to starts to creep in on,
18:41you know, where you're really talking
18:43about potentially elite pitching.
18:45>> Um I I think the depending on how the
18:48game plays out,
18:50>> like
18:51>> the White Socks here could use Hagen
18:53Smith. They could use Grant Taylor. That
18:55would certainly if they if they go like
18:57let's say this is a close game and they
18:58go with the combination of using Taylor
19:02and Hagen Smith in the in the you know
19:04later innings of this game that's going
19:06to keep the the scoring down for the
19:07Royals. But here's the thing like the
19:09the White Socks have some work to do.
19:11Okay, the White Socks are still in a a
19:14battle with the Guardians in the in the
19:17AL Central. They still need to win a
19:20game or two to secure the wild card. I
19:23believe coming into today, technically
19:25the Astros are three games back of them.
19:27So granted, like you look at the White
19:29Sox schedule, three at the Royals, three
19:31at home against the Rockies, I think
19:32they feel pretty good about at least
19:34getting to the playoffs. But I'll tell
19:35you what, especially if you're a team
19:37like the White Socks that doesn't um
19:40that that doesn't, you know, hasn't had
19:42a ton of of winning success over the
19:44years. I I don't think they want to go
19:46into the weekend like needing to win
19:48games. That that doesn't, you know, I
19:49think they want to take care of business
19:51here. Now, what does that mean for the
19:52total? Uh, that I think in a close game,
19:55they probably will use Hagen Smith and
19:57Grant Taylor. However, if it's not a
19:59close game, like let's say there's runs
20:02early. Let's say the White Socks get an
20:03early lead. Or the other way around,
20:05let's say the Royals get to Anthony Kay,
20:08both very possible because again,
20:10neither of these starters are guys that
20:12I think you're just going to like set
20:13your watch to going out and firing five
20:16scoreless. I know Daniel Lynch has been
20:17a little bit better of late, but you
20:19know, these are two Daniel Lynch has
20:21spent a lot of time at TripleA and and
20:22like Tokyo Brandon said, Anthony Kay,
20:25he's he's had flashes, but he hasn't I,
20:27you know, I was higher on him coming
20:28into the season. I I I would say I'm
20:31mostly disappointed. I thought he had a
20:33chance to be like so one of these guys
20:35that like comes back from Japan or Korea
20:37and kind of has a breakout year. He's
20:39been okay at times, but not like been
20:42okay. So, point is this. If you have a
20:44game here where one side is up by like
20:48multiple runs, I think if the White
20:50Socks are trailing, they're going to sit
20:52on Taylor and Smith till tomorrow
20:55because they need they need to make sure
20:56when they use Taylor and Smith this
20:58week, that that's a win. That's
21:00imperative. Uh that when they go and
21:02say, "These two are in the game. We need
21:04you to win the game." They need to make
21:05sure it's a win. If they're up, if the
21:07White Sox have a big lead in this game,
21:09they're probably not going to use either
21:10of them because they're still trying to
21:12win the division. So, they're still
21:13looking at this like we got to put
21:15ourselves in the best chance to to win
21:18the division, which is only a oneame
21:19difference between Cleveland right now.
21:21So, there are a couple scenarios, Brian,
21:23where I think even if even if this were
21:25to be a lowscoring game early, you might
21:28see some of the depth guys late in this
21:30game, which probably gets you over the
21:32seven and a half. So, uh I was at and my
21:35my projection here is at 8.1. So, I'm
21:37I'm with you on the over.
21:39>> Yeah. Not only does the White Sox up by
21:41three three games over Houston, they've
21:44only got six games to play. So, uh you
21:46can definitely see Chicago not even
21:49having a very good weekend and backing
21:50into the playoffs. I think it's pretty
21:52much they're in there. Um but any any
21:56win could help. But yeah, you're right.
21:57Having the day off definitely helps the
21:58bullpen. Um the closer hasn't pitched
22:01in, you know, two days. So, uh yeah, the
22:04bullpen's in pretty good shape for this
22:05game as well.
22:09Okay. Yeah, let's uh No, I again I think
22:12there's I definitely think there are
22:14scenarios where you know I think if you
22:16like the over in that game, you're
22:18rooting for someone to take a lead. Like
22:20you don't you don't want like a 3-2 game
22:22going into the later innings. If you
22:24have someone that has a decent lead in
22:25that game, I think you're going to uh I
22:27think you're going to get your over
22:29eventually.
22:31All right, let's get back to the chat.
22:32Wow, we're we are off to a hot start.
22:34We've got a client play out already.
22:36We've got um
22:38>> two legs.
22:38>> Brian's already giving out his parlay.
Padres/Dodgers
22:41>> I'm gonna go to our friend Brian Hat
22:42here.
22:43>> Brian Hat in the chat right here for
22:46some Dodger baseball. He says Dodgers
22:49just swept San Francisco the hated
22:51rival. Now we've got San Diego on a nine
22:54and one heater coming in and the Dodgers
22:56are plus one and a half. Well, I I I the
22:58Dodgers are probably if they're plus one
23:00and a half, they're probably laying good
23:02amount of juice for the plus one and a
23:03half. I think this is a relatively
23:06competitively priced game here. I know
23:08the Dodgers were still kicking around
23:09who they wanted to start this game. So
23:13again, you've got Michael King for the
23:14Padres's.
23:16The Padres's Listen, I think the Dodgers
23:19care more about the Padres's these days
23:21than the Giants. I know that the the old
23:23rivalry is Dodgers Giants. Brian's
23:27nodding, so I'm gonna go to him first. I
23:29think the Giants still care a lot more
23:31about the Dodgers than vice versa. I
23:34think recently the Dodgers put a little
23:36bit more stock into the quote unquote,
23:38if you want to call it, rivalry with the
23:41Padres's. It's just these have been the
23:43two teams the past half decade that have
23:46that have been at the top of this
23:47division. I think these are just bigger
23:50games. So, in my opinion, I if you
23:53wanted to like I don't think the Dodgers
23:55like looked ahead. Like I could think
23:56they could care less about the Giants at
23:58this point, especially this year. The
24:00Giants so far out of it. They went
24:02through the motions all weekend. They
24:03won all three games. Now you get the
24:05Padres's coming into town. Brian, you
24:07were nodding. What What What do you
24:08think? Is there Is there going to be
24:10juice in this series? Padres's Dodgers.
24:12>> Yeah. If you're looking at uh the plus
24:14one and a half, which is the reverse um
24:16run line, you you're you're laying $2.
24:20So, it's only out at a couple places.
24:21Most of them have the Dodgers minus the
24:24one and a half at plus
24:27175 range, something like that. So, I
24:30just wanted to clear that up a little
24:31bit. Uh, Kings going for San Diego. Uh,
24:34the Dodgers haven't decided on their
24:36starting pitcher right now. Um, it
24:38should be
24:40um Yamamoto is listed now, at least on
24:46roster resource, he's listed to go
24:48Wednesday. So, they haven't announced
24:50anybody. I know uh Suzaki is coming
24:53back, but from what I have read, they're
24:54going to pitch him out of the bullpen,
24:56so it will not be him. So, I'm expecting
24:59to have somebody Let's take a look at
25:01their longer relievers that they have
25:03had. Um
25:06Reblowski pitched last uh Thursday, 32
25:10pitches. I would assume that Justin
25:12Reblowski will
25:15get the start in this game. um and
25:17they'll go from bullpen after that. They
25:20did bring up Edwin Diaz back up and he's
25:22pitched decently well since he came back
25:25from the IIL. So hopefully he's he's
25:27filled in his problems he had before.
25:30But from bullpen standpoint, uh they all
25:32had yesterday off. Uh Tanner Scott
25:35pitched two of the last three days
25:36before that. So nothing major from that.
25:39Uh getting Bubik back is is a help to
25:42this Dodgers bullpen as well. I actually
25:45with the current the way the current
25:47line is right now, we're looking at the
25:49Dodgers with an undecided pitcher in
25:51about the 125 range with a total of
25:53nine. Uh I like King, but I'm with you.
25:58I think the Dodgers
26:00uh don't care about the Giants at this
26:01point. You know, being being from
26:04Cleveland, they were never very good.
26:06And they always said the Yankees were
26:08the rivalry because of sign and all, but
26:10the Yankees didn't have any interest in
26:12Cleveland. All they want used Cleveland
26:13for was to pick up their free agents and
26:15their in their outbid everybody when
26:17they became a free agent. So, um I think
26:20that's the way the Dodgers feel about
26:21the Giants. I I am going to wait to see
26:25what the Dodgers are going to do here
26:26because they haven't announced anything,
26:28but I would think it's forky and then a
26:30bullpen from that point on and that's
26:31enough to get me involved in this price
26:34range. San Diego is a good team. San
26:36Diego's playing very well, but now
26:38they're going up against the Dodgers.
26:39And this is a rivalry game with the
26:41Dodgers uh on the edge of the playoffs.
26:44They haven't had play had to play too
26:46many meaningful games. Or is San Diego
26:48because they struggle so much in the
26:50first half of the season. They played a
26:52lot of meaningful games. So I think we
26:54get the best out of the Dodgers here.
26:55And at that price range, I'm slightly
26:57interested in here depending on who they
26:59announce will be their starter.
27:02>> Yeah, Tokyo Brandon. This is it's really
27:04interesting because the Padres's have
27:06played such good ball of late, nine of
27:0810. They've won five in a row. They went
27:10from needing to it looking like they
27:12were going to have to battle off like
27:14five or know five different teams to
27:17close down the wildard spot to to
27:19jumping the Phillies. They are actually
27:21in the two spot in the NL wild card race
27:24now by a game. Um they they they lead
27:27the Phillies by a game. So, you know,
27:31you on one hand I'm like, do they exhale
27:33this final week a little bit because
27:35they they feel like they've done enough?
27:37Cuz like Brian said, they've been in big
27:38game after big game the past two weeks.
27:41But like the Padres's get up for the
27:42Dodgers. So, I'm having a hard time
27:45figuring out what Padres's team shows up
27:48here, but the Padres's team that we've
27:50seen the past couple weeks has been
27:52really, really good. So, very intriguing
27:54matchup tonight. Padres's Dodgers. What
27:56do you have for us?
27:57So, I'm going to make this my parlay
27:59leg. Um,
28:02the nobody's hitting better than the
28:04Padres's right now. They're number one
28:06in MLB in current form, hands down. And
28:11yeah, I mean, the Dodgers have a good
28:13lineup, but they're missing their two
28:14best hitters. I mean, Pah and Otani are
28:18not in this lineup. I think the Padres's
28:20have the hitting advantage here. Uh,
28:23granted the Dodgers are hitting number
28:25three in current form in MLB. So, we got
28:27the number one and number three teams uh
28:30right now. Uh, I like King. He's not a,
28:34you know, superstar stud or anything,
28:36but he handles these Dodgers really well
28:39in his career. I think he can do that
28:42today. Um, and I think the Padres's plus
28:46the half run in the first five is is a
28:48good play here. and you can get it for
28:50anywhere between minus125 and minus1
28:52130. I think that's a good I think
28:54that's a good bet and that's going to be
28:56my parlay. The Dodgers might win the
28:58game, but I don't think they're going to
29:00I don't think they're going to be
29:01winning after five innings. Let's put it
29:03that way. I think King handles these
29:05Dodgers a little too well. Another play
29:07I was thinking about was the Dodgers
29:09team total under two and a half in the
29:10first five, but that's minus 160. And
29:12also the Dodgers are number three in MLB
29:15in hitting even without Otani. So, I I
29:17like the Padres's to keep this even in
29:19the first five innings.
29:22>> TB, I I think that's a good I I I I
29:24think that's a good look. You know, more
29:26I think about it, I think Brian is going
29:28to be right. I think you're probably
29:29going to see Roblesi out there at at
29:31some point in the first five innings. I
29:34don't know if the Dodgers will use an
29:35opener. This might this week at times
29:37you might this might be a try out for
29:40who's going to make like the long relief
29:42spot on the playoff roster. I'll throw
29:44this out there as I throw it back to
29:46Brian to get a price on that on that
29:47first five. Listen, the Oklahoma City
29:50Comets are playing out in Vegas the next
29:52two days in in the potentially next
29:54three days in the AAA playoffs. I I know
29:58for a fact the Dodgers left a couple of
30:01guy like again I don't I don't think you
30:03know organization does it matter who
30:05wins in AAA? Probably not. But like I do
30:08think they are leaving a couple of
30:10starters down there that potentially
30:12could have like appeared in this game to
30:14start those games because again it's
30:17like more like you know you're looking
30:18at the Dodgers organizational depth type
30:20deal. It's like they want to be fair to
30:23Oklahoma City. They had a great second
30:24half. They're playing in the playoffs. I
30:27think you know I I I think land I I
30:29don't know if it's Landon Knack that's
30:30still down there. Maybe Gavin Stone has
30:32been down there. Like theoretically,
30:34these are guys that the Dodgers could
30:35have maybe put in this spot if they
30:38wanted to. I think they are going to
30:41anything I'm reading, they're going to
30:44keep this Oklahoma City to team together
30:46for like the next three days just to,
30:48you know, to give them a chance to to
30:51play in the playoffs and and they need
30:52starting pitching for three days. So, I
30:55think that might have been like let's
30:57say they didn't play today. You might
30:58have seen someone called up to to fill
31:01because again again the teams get two
31:03extra roster spots. I think you're going
31:05to see the Dodgers say you know what yes
31:07they're seating all that stuff but like
31:10we also want to give
31:11>> the the team that had a great second
31:13half a chance. And so yeah, you can make
31:15a start down there. What does that mean
31:17for this game? And what does that mean
31:19for Tokyo Brandon's bet? Well, if you're
31:21betting first five, let's say Robleski's
31:24three innings, the next guy up might be
31:26the most depth guy in the bullpen
31:28because if you're the Dodgers, you're
31:30probably not going to like cook through
31:31high leverage guys until you know if
31:34you're in the game or not. You know, you
31:35probably push them off till later in the
31:37week. I think this week for the Dodgers
31:39is more about just getting to the finish
31:42line, setting up the team for the
31:43postseason. Um, so TB, I I think you
31:46would potentially end up with Michael
31:49King against either Roleski or like one
31:51of the Dodgers like weaker relievers. I
31:54can get down with that. So I I think I'm
31:56with you there. That first five look
31:57makes a lot of sense. Brian, what's he
31:58looking at for a price?
32:00>> Yeah, having yesterday off I think um
32:03helps the Dodgers in that regard because
32:05they they had some bullpen guys they had
32:07used pretty pretty much before that. But
32:09yeah, he's looking at plus 100 um in in
32:13the first half of that game. And uh
32:16yeah, it's it's it's tough to make a
32:17definitive decision without knowing what
32:20you're going to do. But uh yeah, you get
32:22them plus 100 in the first five at San
32:24Diego
32:24>> with the half run. Really?
32:26>> Oh, with the half run. Hold on.
32:27>> With the half run.
32:28>> I thought I thought it's minus 125.US
32:32were doing that. Hold on just a second.
32:35>> Uh
32:35>> 25, I think.
32:37>> Yeah, let me look. Um, San Diego is uh
32:41Oh, the first half. I'm sorry, forgot to
32:43hit that part. Uh, San Diego's about a
32:47140 favorite plus the half a run.
32:50>> Yeah, I was going to say the Padres's
32:51have definitely started to take some
32:53money a little bit. Um,
32:56>> so yeah, that makes
32:57>> I had a feeling was going to have moved
32:59a little bit, but yeah, that's
33:01>> I need the half run.
33:04>> No, I I would agree, TB. I like I like
33:07that a lot more. just needing to get to
33:08the finish line of of five innings tied
33:11or in the lead.
33:12>> Yeah.
33:13>> But yeah, I think if you listen if if
33:16you got on it early, I mean, if you're
33:18holding plus a half minus 125, it's a
33:20great bet at minus 140 like we can put
33:23it in the parlay. Um it just may not
33:24have as much value as a straight bet,
33:26but it's certainly uh I think worth a
33:28look.
33:29>> Yeah, if they're if they're giving you
33:30plus 100 with no runs, 125 is too cheap.
33:34So yeah, 14.
33:36>> No, I'm saying it was an hour and a half
33:37ago that 125 was probably out there,
33:40>> right?
33:40>> It was actually right before the show.
33:42It was minus 125 on the drop down that
33:45we used. So
33:46>> it's gone though.
33:47>> Yeah, board is is moving. It like
33:50Listen, a lot of stuff
33:51>> lot of stuff moves in this hour. I think
33:53I think the 9:00 a.m. Eastern hour um is
33:56what is like the first limit raise from
33:58uh like overnight limit goes up.
34:02typically when every time limits raise
34:04is typically when you're going to start
34:05to see um some activity. So you get
34:07activity. Brian, I'll come to you
34:08because again I'm I'm punching Yankees
34:10game one uh Yankees money line for game
34:12one and um as we're going on the show,
34:15every book moved like 10 cents very very
34:17quickly. So yeah, go ahead.
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35:47>> That would be a uh that that would be a
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35:52is a comp if if Brian Hat says we did a
35:54good Dodgers breakdown. I know that's a
35:56compliment. I know he's a uh big Dodgers
35:58fan, very tuned in. So, uh appreciate
36:01you guys. Um
36:04Steam the Friars line. Yeah, Big Daddy
36:06Cornbed. That's uh maybe we did. Maybe
36:08we're moving that toward the Padres's.
36:10You never know. Um let's move to a
36:12different game. Going back to the chat.
Astros/Mariners
36:15Okay, this one I guess is uh this one's
36:18worthwhile. Uh seems like the folks want
36:20to talk some Mariners Astros. So, you
36:23know, I got to be honest, this is the
36:26for for since we moved to the seven play
36:30seven team per league uh playoff format
36:33with the extra wild card team, I think
36:36this is the most uneventful final week
36:38that we've had like where
36:41like usually now ever since they put the
36:44third wild card team and typically this
36:45stuff's going down to the final day, but
36:48man like you just have not had teams
36:50this year you you've had like every one
36:52of these teams has played their way like
36:55out of the race. It's It's kind of
36:56crazy. Now, the American League
36:57obviously still has um some some
37:02teams in the mix right there. Uh the
37:04Astros are probably the team that has
37:09See, now they interestingly enough, they
37:11have a better chance to win their
37:12division than they do the play the wild
37:14card. Uh they're three behind the White
37:16Socks in the wild card. However, they're
37:18still very close to the Rangers in the
37:20division. So, a lot to play for here. I
37:23thought the Mariners would have had more
37:24to play for coming into the final week
37:26with how easy their schedule was in
37:27September, but they just haven't played
37:29good baseball. And um Tokyo Brandon,
37:32I'll let you kick this one off. Got to
37:34be honest, I I was surprised to see the
37:37Mariners as big of a favorite as they
37:38were coming into this game knowing that
37:41their season's kind of done, just
37:44knowing how poorly they've played in
37:45September. But the books, man, have just
37:48they have just priced this Mariners team
37:50up all year. And it's almost like
37:51they're just gonna they're going to beat
37:53it right into the ground, right to the
37:55going right to the grave with that. Um
37:58Mariners once again coming at home once
38:00again. You have to lay a premium to back
38:03them. Do you think it's warranted?
38:05Mariners Astros to you Tokyo Brand.
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38:30grab those plays. Uh all three of us are
38:34winning and all three of us are very
38:36good baseball cappers. So, uh, pretty
38:39much can't go wrong. Uh, let's get to
38:42this game. I think the seven here is
38:44kind of ridiculous. Um, we have two
38:47teams that I mean, their bullpens are
38:50not playing well right now. I got both
38:52bullpens 16 or right around 16 18 range,
38:57so lower than mediocre. Um, Seattle's
39:01bats are waking up a little bit. Uh,
39:03Houston's are not really waking up. But,
39:07uh, I think I I don't seven. Seven is
39:10the kind of number you see when you got
39:12Max Freed going against Rasmusen, right?
39:15That's not what we have here. So, I just
39:18seven seems way too low to me in this
39:19one. I like Javier's numbers against
39:22Seattle, but those numbers could have
39:24been compiled a long time ago. Javier's
39:27having a terrible season. Uh, I just
39:30don't think this seven is justified. Um,
39:33so I think an over is probably the play
39:35in this one. I'm not sure if I'll get to
39:37it, but if I were to, that's what I
39:39would do.
39:41I It's really interesting to The Astros
39:44are such an interesting case right now
39:45because like
39:47that I mean they've played bad lately.
39:49So I guess I guess I can see where the
39:52Mariner love would come from being at
39:55home here. Logan Gilbert. I would much
39:57rather have Logan Gilbert than Christian
39:58Javier just in a you in general. And the
40:01Astros, like they really have played
40:03poorly, three and seven their last 10
40:05games. Uh Brian, this has kind of been
40:07going on since early August. So the
40:09Astros had such a great July. They came
40:11into August red-hot. And um the the the
40:14the burnout, the fizzle out for them has
40:17been going on for for like about a month
40:20now. And it actually it's it's a crazy
40:22to think that with how poor the Rangers
40:24and the Mariners have both been, but it
40:26very well may cost them a spot in the
40:29playoffs. whereas go back to to maybe
40:32you know going into August I think I
40:33came on here and said the Astros are
40:35actually sort of playing their way into
40:36being one of the elite teams in the
40:38American League and that just simply has
40:39not been the case. So Mariners Astros
40:42this one's kind of a brain this is
40:44jumbling my brain here. Uh but do you
40:47have anything Astros Mariners?
40:49>> Yeah we're looking at Gilbert and
40:50Javier. Gilbert's about a 140 favorite
40:52here. We're either looking at the seven
40:55over 25 or looking at seven and a half
40:58under 25. So, seven and a quarter is the
41:01way I call it. Um, Javier has not
41:04pitched well on the season, but if you
41:06take a look at his last three starts, he
41:07has been pretty good. He had a couple
41:0860s in that regard. I believe he had a
41:1044 or something last time out, but he's
41:12only 42 on the season. He struggled a
41:14lot earlier, but he's pitching a lot
41:16better now. Um, and you're looking at a
41:19Houston bullpen that does have uh their
41:21closer who uh has not pitched in a
41:24while. Uh, they haven't had Josh her
41:26hasn't pitched since Thursday. Uh, Brian
41:29Breu really struggled early in the
41:30season and he did blow the save on
41:32Saturday, but still um he's back to
41:35about where they expected. He's up to
41:37number 38 in the power rank over at Fan
41:40Graphs. That's about what I had him at
41:42before the season. So, as bad as he was
41:44the beginning of the season, he's been
41:45much better as of late. But, uh, a lot
41:48of these guys have had the last two days
41:49off. Their top four, uh, relievers have
41:51all had last two days off. Blue Ball and
41:54Susa as well. So, I think we're going to
41:56get a pretty good effort out of the
41:58pitching staff here for Houston, even if
42:01they have to go a little bit earlier to
42:03get Javier out of there. Um, Seattle, as
42:07we've been pointing out, very
42:09disappointing season all season, all all
42:12year long. The Mariners just never got
42:14on that run. You expected it all season
42:16long. Never happened. They're going with
42:18Logan Gilbert. He's the number 18th
42:20pitcher on the season. In fact, if you
42:21take a look at their top three starters,
42:24uh, Gilbert 18, Kirby 54. A little bit
42:27disappointing in that regard, but Woo
42:2922. You know, they're all been good.
42:31They just haven't been great. Bryce
42:33Miller 102 and Kate Anderson's really
42:36coming around now at 149. It's a shame
42:39that Seattle isn't going to make the
42:40playoffs because they probably would
42:42have one of the strongest uh rotations
42:45in the playoffs, but um that's that's
42:48the way it is. You got to be able to hit
42:49and they haven't hit. Uh Munoz um
42:54has been dealing with some problems,
42:55health problems lately. This week they
42:57had to pull him out uh earlier. last
43:00time he was out there, he got the hold,
43:01but um they pulled him out of the game
43:03and uh they also had yesterday off, so
43:05most of their bullpen's in pretty good
43:06shape. So, um looking at this one, I I
43:11obviously prefer Gilbert at home here,
43:12but I can't lay that number. It it's
43:14it's gotten up. I I expected it to be in
43:16the 130 range, and now we're seeing in
43:18the 140s. Uh if I'm playing, I'm taking
43:21Houston, but I'm not doing it with a lot
43:23of confidence.
43:25Yeah, listen, the Mariners, I mean,
43:26granted they would need a lot of help,
43:28but they, you know, technically with a
43:32win tonight would not be eliminated.
43:34Their elimination number is two. Uh, so
43:36I do I I don't think you're going to not
43:38get an effort from the Mariners. I think
43:39for for me, like I'd love to take
43:41Gilbert at home. I think it's probably
43:43the right side in this game, but minus
43:46130 - 135. Like, bro, I
43:48>> I I'd be all over the Mariners here at
43:50like minus 110 if the books like G like
43:53I was kind of hoping they'd give you the
43:55discount of like the Astros needing this
43:58game versus the Mariners kind of being
44:00out of it. I I was hoping that would be
44:01like overly priced into the number so I
44:04could take the Mariners. But even it's
44:06even taken some money. The Astros have
44:08even taken some money in the last hour
44:09and still putting you in that minus 130
44:12to - 135 range. So that is ultimately
44:15what likely keeps me off. Though I do
44:17lean toward the Mariners just having the
44:20better setup to win this game at home.
44:24Okay, let's move it along a couple more.
44:27So, we got the parlay locked in. Uh but
44:29we've got a couple more games to talk
44:31about. Uh so Brian, I'm coming back to
44:33you here. Uh because the the people in
Guardians/Red Sox
44:35the chat are asking for your Cleveland
44:38Guardians. They're taking on the Red
44:40Sox. The Guardians definitely still the
44:43big- time playoff implications here
44:44still. Uh even though the Guardians have
44:46played their way into a really good spot
44:49to be in the playoffs, still work to do
44:51for them to wrap up the AL Central,
44:53which we know means home games, which is
44:55obviously very important. So they hit
44:57the road here. It's Parker Messi, Payton
44:59to probably one of the better games of
45:00the night. Red Sox Guardians at Fenway
45:03Park. Uh, how are you seeing this very
45:05solid pitching match up at Fenway?
45:07>> Yeah, and as I mentioned earlier, the
45:09winds blowing in, too. So, because
45:10that's the first thing I noticing, but
45:12how often do you see a six and a half in
45:13Fenway Park? Uh, yes, Messi and Totally
45:16are very good pitchers. They're both
45:17left-handers. Uh, that gives them an
45:19extra edge here. Uh, we're looking at
45:20tolli and the Red Sox about a 128
45:24favorite here. Total six and a half to
45:25the over minus 120 for the most part.
45:28couple of sevens out there um as well uh
45:31with a little bit of juice to the under.
45:35But um yeah, I think it's I think it's
45:38priced correctly. Um Messi has been
45:40fantastic on the road all season long.
45:42He has been great. Um it's a shame he
45:46probably won't win rookie of the year
45:47because of the Detroit shortstop, but
45:49hey, he's he's been the rookie pitcher
45:51of the year for the American League. No
45:53doubt about that. Um,
45:56Cleveland has set themselves up now.
45:58Obviously,
45:59we talked about the White Socks. I I
46:01think Cleveland with the sit situation
46:03that they've got going on here, uh,
46:06they're currently a game ahead of the
46:08White Sox, but the White Sox have the
46:09tiebreaker and Houston's the only other
46:12team in it and uh, that they really need
46:16to worry about. And I, like I just said,
46:17I don't think Houston's going to get
46:19there. So, I think Cleveland will make
46:20the playoffs. it's more more important
46:22to win the division because you get that
46:25um the buy in in the in the first round.
46:28So that is what the White Socks and the
46:30Guarders are going to go for. Um and I
46:32think both of them end up making the
46:34playoffs. But the Guardians now have
46:37they gone seven to three the last 10 and
46:39now they're finally with a positive run
46:41differential on the season of plus two.
46:44Uh Kas done the same thing as they did
46:46last year. Uh it amazes to me how they
46:49continue to be able to win these games
46:50because at the end of the season they're
46:52always like they come off as like an
46:54average team but they find ways to win.
46:56Take a look at the bullpen. Uh over the
46:59last week they've used Kate Smith three
47:01times and he got saves all three games.
47:04Hunter Gatis came in three times was
47:06holds. So they've used their top two
47:08relievers a lot. So, the rest of the
47:10bullpen is in really good shape here if
47:13they decide that they're going to limit
47:16Messi. Take them out at maybe after five
47:18innings. Um, they've got guys that
47:21haven't pitched in a while. So, I I
47:23didn't think going into this I'd have
47:25any interest in the under, but I kind of
47:27do. Let's take a look at what the first
47:29five is here. Uh, the first half for
47:32this total here, we're looking at three
47:33and a half under
47:36under 20 28 something like that. That
47:39would that's not bad. Uh I could see
47:42these pitchers holding the opposition
47:44with the wind blowing in here to three
47:45runs or less in the first five. That's
47:47probably the way I would look at it. Um
47:49but uh I think it's going to be a really
47:51good pitch ball game here. They've got a
47:53lot of guys that are available and uh
47:56Boston's clinched their playoff spot, so
47:57it doesn't mean as much for Boston.
47:59They're pretty much stuck where they're
48:00at. But uh they they know that they're
48:03might have to be playing Cleveland in
48:04the playoffs. So hey, they're they're
48:06going to give them a good effort here.
48:08All right, TB, get back in here. Red Sox
48:11Guardians, how do you see this one?
48:13>> Yeah. Uh, I don't see why I think this
48:17price is way off. I think Cleveland's
48:19the better team. Uh, I understand.
48:21They're three wins apart and Boston
48:24basically backed their way into the
48:25playoffs. They didn't really earn it.
48:28Uh, Messix's a better pitcher. Cleveland
48:30has the better bullpen. And Cleveland's
48:33hitting better. I got Cleveland ranked
48:35fourth in hitting, fifth in bullpen, and
48:37sixth in starting pitching. That's I
48:39mean, that's a juggernaut kind of
48:41number. I I know they're not playing
48:43like world beater juggernauts or
48:44anything like that, but they're the much
48:46better team here. If you can get plus
48:47money with them, I think I think the
48:50reason Boston's favored is probably
48:51because they're at home. But they're 38
48:54and 37 at home. Cleveland is 40 and 35
48:57on the road, so the road doesn't really
48:58make much difference in my opinion. Uh,
49:01I'll back Massie for plus 115 or
49:04whatever it is. I think that's a great
49:05price. Better bullpen, better bats,
49:08better starter. Take Cleveland.
49:14>> I'm just uh going to get Yeah, this I
49:16I'm going to move on to a different game
49:18just because I want to get another one
49:19in here. Uh Brian, go ahead if you have
49:21something.
49:21>> Yeah, let me just counteract. They're
49:22they're not the better team. The uh take
49:24a look at the expected one loss on the
49:26record. Cleveland's 78 and 78. Boston's
49:2987 and 69. Uh Boston against teams with
49:32a 500 record are 35 and 30. Cleveland is
49:3623 and 35. Keep in mind TB that um
49:40Boston had to play their division. And
49:44it's while it's not as not like it used
49:46to be where you played your division so
49:48many more times,
49:50>> Cleveland's had got the advantage of
49:52playing in one of the two worst
49:53divisions in baseball whereas the
49:55Yankees play in the best division or the
49:56Red Sox playing the best division. So, I
49:59appreciate your uh your excitement for
50:01my Cleveland team, but uh and they may
50:04win this game. No doubt about it. But I
50:05I still think if if you if Cleveland was
50:08going to play Boston in the next series,
50:10uh who would be favored? Boston would be
50:12favored in
50:13>> I don't care who'd be favored, Cleveland
50:15would win the series, though. If Crochet
50:17is not back, Cleveland's a better team
50:19>> in my opinion.
50:20>> Well, we'll have
50:22I have to push back on I got to push
50:24back on that a little bit.
50:26I think it's I think it's like a pretty
50:28wide margin between the Red Sox and
50:30Guardians. Like the for me like the Red
50:32Sox are far better. I'm not Now listen,
50:34it's baseball. So like the Red Sox
50:36playing the Guardians in a playoff
50:38series like you get a good couple good
50:39outings. Like they're not they're not
50:41like
50:42>> it's not like the Red Sox are so much
50:44better that the Guardians wouldn't
50:45compete with them. But like Brian said,
50:47like part of part of the whole sort of
50:49case I was trying to make for the Blue
50:51Jays, which didn't work out. But like
50:54playing the AL East is a big difference
50:56than if you had an entire season of
50:58games against the AL West where you're
51:01playing the A's all these times, the
51:03Angels all these times, and and again,
51:05some of that's going on in the AL
51:06Central. Think about how many more games
51:08you have against the Royals, against the
51:10Twins, against the Tigers, all below
51:12average baseball team. So I'm with you,
51:14Brian. I do think the Red Sox are I have
51:17them power rated, you know, definitely
51:19higher than the Guardians,
51:21>> but like in this matchup, like
51:24>> in this matchup, I could see it is this
51:26is kind of a coin flip to me. I I didn't
51:29see enough value either way. I lean Red
51:31Sox at Fenway. I'm still a little out on
51:34the Guardians being like an actual
51:36contender. I The Guardians are a team I
51:39I have a feeling I'm going to be looking
51:40to play against uh in the postseason.
51:42Whether they win the AL Central or not,
51:44we'll see. But I they're they're just
51:47fortunate comes to mind when I see this
51:50team being where they are. Um but Messi
51:54is is a stud. I like
51:56>> I think they're a well put together team
51:57and division games are only 32% of your
51:59schedule. So just saying
52:02>> again we can we can
52:03>> I I know you want to talk about another
52:05game, but I if these two teams play in
52:07the playoffs, who's favored? You think
52:12>> Cleveland will win though the bullpen
52:14>> and their starting rotation is better.
52:16So
52:20>> I I I think the Guardians take shout out
52:22to what the Guardians though getting
52:24getting what they do out of that lineup
52:27especially with Jose Ramirez having a
52:28down year like that should not in my I
52:31look at that team like there's no way
52:33that that team should be playing playoff
52:34baseball and and they are. Yeah. Crazy
52:37Steve Rochio is clutch. The ball must
52:40have a grass magnet on it. The ma Yeah,
52:43it just finds grass somehow. Um the game
52:46that comes to mind is when the White
52:48Socks had a an infielder playing out of
52:50position last week to lose a game to the
52:52Guardians. But yeah, um hey, shout out
52:54to the shout out to the Guardians.
52:56>> All right, let's go. Let's get one more
52:57in here. We can squeak one more in at
52:59the gun. Um, okay. Uh, the other one
Mets/Rangers
53:01that Alex Ran wanted earlier that we,
53:04uh, we passed on, Rangers Mets. Of
53:06course, I'll go to this one for Alex.
53:08I'll go to this one because we do have
53:10some playoff implications here for the
53:13Rangers who are still trying to hold off
53:15a lead in the AL West. They have a game
53:17lead on the Astros and they have a home
53:20game tonight um, against the Mets with
53:23our favorite Jackal and Hyde starter on
53:25the mound in Mackenzie Gore. So, Brian
53:27Leonard, start us off. Mets Rangers. Uh,
53:30is this as easy as it, you know, maybe
53:33the Rangers think it is or what do you
53:35think's going on Mets Rangers here?
53:37>> Well, if you like the R, you like the
53:39Mets, um, and you're have a public book,
53:42let's just put it that way, you better
53:44grab it now because the lines are going
53:46down in all the short books. So, the
53:48short books like the Mets and I think
53:51that's the way to look at it. I don't
53:52trust Gore. Um, Manet has been solid, no
53:56doubt about it. He's a crafty lefty. Um
54:00I don't think Texas deserves the
54:01playoffs. So yeah, if I'm if I'm playing
54:03it, I might take the Mets here. You can
54:05get him at plus Yeah. plus4
54:09some places. Um yeah, not not a whole
54:13big of an opinion on this one.
54:15>> TV Rangers Mets. Do you have anything in
54:17this game?
54:19>> Yeah, Gore Gore is is Jacqueline Hyde
54:22for sure. His home and away splits are
54:26worlds apart, almost three full runs
54:28apart. And he's walking a lot of guys.
54:31His walk rate is 97. He's walking 97% of
54:35the guys he's striking out. He's giving
54:37a lot of free passes, but I still have
54:39him ranked higher than Maniah. But
54:42that's that's the thing. Uh do you get
54:45home gore or do you get away? Um both
54:48teams are hitting right about 11 out of
54:5130. They're pretty equal. Both bullpens
54:54pretty equal in current form. So, the
54:56only difference I see between these two
54:58teams is starting pitcher. Um, if we get
55:02good gore, I think Texas has a shot at
55:04this. But, if we get bad gore, we don't.
55:06So, it basically depends on that. And I
55:08don't want to put my money on uh such a
55:11uh such an unsure X factor. So, I'll lay
55:15off. But, if if Gore is on, I think
55:17Texas wins the game. That's a big if.
55:21No, I'm with you there. Listen, when
55:23when Mcken because when Mackenzie Gore
55:25is on, he looks like the ace that every
55:27that we we all thought he was going to
55:29be. Um, apparently that every everyone
55:32thought he was going to be. I mean, this
55:33guy has been involved in in massive
55:36trades multiple times in his career. Um,
55:38the Nationals traded for him thinking
55:41that he was he was going to be their
55:43ace. The Rangers turned around and
55:45traded for him thinking he was going to
55:47be their ace. Clearly, there's like
55:50thought around the league that he is a
55:52high-end left-handed arm and and it it's
55:55been super frustrating to watch him over
55:57the years because he will have a start
56:00uh now at this point, you kind of got to
56:01go back to about a month um where he'll
56:04have a start where he just comes out for
56:05six innings and it's virtually unhitable
56:08and then he'll he'll go on these runs
56:10and I think it's for him it's streaky.
56:13So, if you want to talk about trying to
56:14figure out how to bet Mackenzie Gore,
56:17like this, this is not the best spot
56:19because he he hasn't done anything
56:21recently to suggest that you're getting
56:24the really good Mackenzie Gore. Now, he
56:26might come out in the playoffs and have
56:28and and throw three games where he
56:30throws six, seven scoreless because he's
56:33just super streaky. There was runs
56:35earlier this year, July into August,
56:37where he was having really good start
56:38after really good start. But so far, the
56:40last three starts, five runs over three,
56:44four runs over four. Last time out,
56:46three runs over four innings, he can't
56:48even get through the fifth inning.
56:49That's not ace caliber stuff. Uh, three
56:52walks or more in five straight starts is
56:55the most concerning thing for me with
56:57him. when the walks start to go up, the
56:59strikeouts start to go down, you're just
57:01not getting where they like to price him
57:04in the market. And I think that's the
57:06problem here. Uh you just just not
57:08trustworthy enough to justify where the
57:11Rangers are priced here. Tokyo Brandon
57:13said it best. What do you want to bet on
57:15which Gore shows up here? And just off
57:18of like the way he pitches, he's in one
57:21of the bad streaks, so I'm not going to
57:22bet on him in one of the bad in one of
57:24the quoteunquote bad runs. Brian, go
57:25ahead. Yeah, the only good starts he's
57:27had in the last two months have been
57:29against the bad worst team hitting teams
57:31in baseball. The Athletics, the Angels,
57:34uh the Angels twice actually, San
57:36Francisco. Yeah. Anytime he plays any
57:38team with an offense, he's struggled. I
57:40want no part of him. He's got a 50 game
57:42score on the season, but as you
57:43mentioned, the last three outs outings,
57:4538, 37, 21, e even uh even his good
57:50outing against the Athletics at home, he
57:52only had a 54. So, yeah, I don't want I
57:53don't want any part of him.
57:57All right, we have reached the end of
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59:40>> Absolutely. We uh so I I did put one out
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1:00:20in the first five minus 140. And Brian
1:00:23is going to go White Socks Royals over
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