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The "Flywheel" -- The Secret Behind The Success Of Amazon, Google, Uber And Facebook

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0:04a flywheel this thing is really what

0:19made em azan good and really there's two

0:23types of there's two types of businesses

0:26and there's two there's two types of

0:28growth one is linear and one is

0:34exponential right there's two types

0:40we'll say this is one two and linear is

0:44what pretty much every single businesses

0:4699.9 oh no no no no no embassy no

0:48businesses are linear and what that

0:50means is their growth let's say this is

0:55growth measured in dollars and this is

0:59time right and it looks like this

1:12probably even makes that noise - so

1:16that's what most businesses look like

1:18this year let's say this is year one

1:21let's say in one year they grow to say a

1:25hundred thousand then they're like okay

1:28I kind of know the formula so year two

1:31we'll just do a double of that so they

1:33double double the staff double the

1:35whatever they make two hundred thousand

1:39didn't Eli okay we'll do is double with

1:41that and then three hundred thousand all

1:47right they move like that that's linear

1:49and you know what it's actually pretty

1:51hard to even do that most businesses

1:54don't even do that most businesses kind

1:56of go up linear and then stay flat and

1:59in decline all right some good

2:03businesses can pull this one off these

2:05are very rare but this still sucks this

2:10is linear no good company's a linear

2:14none of them zero look at their growth

2:16and no rich people's incomes a linear

2:19look at Warren Buffett's book of Jeff

2:22Bezos is look at any rich person on

2:24earth over all time and it won't be

2:28linear so this sucks

2:33and then exponential looks like this if

2:37we've got growth time dollars years

2:48looks like that so well you know it's

2:53going kind of linear and then it kind of

2:55goes BAM up like that that is what all

3:00good companies have so like just say bad

3:04good right this makes sense two types

3:10than the expen sure and I always

3:13wondered what the hell makes this

3:14exponential thing happen but how can you

3:17get there instead of that and what's

3:21also crazy is that with these businesses

3:25let's say you spend a hundred thousand

3:27on ads here and you're a hundred times

3:31bigger here but you don't have to spend

3:34anything on it it has totally different

3:37relationships in a business like this to

3:40make ten times as much you have to spend

3:41ten times as much in a business like

3:43this sometimes you don't have to spend

3:45anything and you can make a thousand

3:47times more all right these are the ones

3:50that that everyone gets rich on and

3:54these are the companies that are the

3:55best and I took me a long time to figure

3:59out how these damn things worked and

4:10it's all to do with having a flywheel in

4:13your business like Amazon does so I'll

4:15just show you Amazon's if we have growth

4:19then we have sellers selection then over

4:27here we're going to have experienced

4:30traffic

4:44there's a another amplifier here which

4:46comes up which is lower price lower and

4:51costs which leads to lower prices which

5:00then feeds that again alright so for

5:05every new seller that comes onto Amazon

5:07they bring a wider selection of things

5:11the wider the selection of things the

5:14better this experiences for a customer

5:17coming on and looking for things and the

5:19better that experiences the more people

5:22come and the more often they visit and

5:25then the more people that come in the

5:27more often they visit the more sellers

5:30come because there's more of a market

5:32there and then the wider the selection

5:34and then the better the experience then

5:37the more customers that come in the more

5:39frequent they visit and then what

5:40happens is they also because they have

5:43so much buy economies of scale they can

5:45lower they've got lower costs a server

5:48with if you have a server in the initial

5:51stages in a team of developers in the

5:54initial stages that might cost a hundred

5:56grand per year for the developers in the

5:58server with let's say a thousand

6:00visitors a month but then if you have a

6:02million visitors a day and you might

6:04still have the same team so the costs

6:07room the costs got shared over more

6:10units of scale and that means that

6:12they've got lower costs and then they

6:14can lower the prices and then when they

6:16lower the prices as well that makes the

6:18experience better which means that more

6:20people are going to come and really this

6:22all feeds growth and it spins like a

6:25flywheel in every time this every time

6:29one of these things gets better it spins

6:31faster and every time that happens the

6:35increase its bigger so not only is this

6:37happening faster but bigger every single

6:39time and that's why if you look at

6:42Amazon's value on the stock market

6:46that's why if you look at Jeff Bezos is

6:48near

6:49like that's how and it's like under

6:52stoppable really and all other

6:55businesses work like this to the big

6:57ones so with Google the more people that

7:01search on Google the more websites want

7:04to be found on Google the more content

7:06they create the more people search on

7:08Google the bit of the algorithms get the

7:10bit of the search results are the more

7:12people that suit right that's how Google

7:14has gotten so good

7:15everything's on it and the results are

7:18pretty damn good and so you know Google

7:22has a flywheel and also Facebook has a

7:26flywheel the more people are on it the

7:28more content they create the more often

7:30they're on it

7:30the more other people are on it the more

7:32advertisers want to sell on it you know

7:34it has a flywheel uber has a flywheel

7:37the more drivers that drive with uber

7:40the more the faster the time uber can

7:44get a driver to you if you pull out your

7:47uber and you look at it it could be

7:49three minutes if they didn't have much

7:51drivers it might be 20 and then you're

7:53not going to use it because you'll just

7:54get a yellow cab so the more drivers

7:57they have on over the more people come

7:59on to over and then the more people that

8:02come on to over the more drivers that

8:03come on to over and then it goes so it's

8:05same with your B&B same with all these

8:07things so all of them have a flywheel

8:11this is pretty make sense right in the

8:17flywheel is what creates exponential

8:19growth but what's interesting is most

8:21businesses the ones that have linear

8:23curves they have a negative flywheel

8:26they go down so I'll give you an example

8:33if you all use are done for you done for

8:39you services and one-on-one consulting

8:43as an example right seriously this is it

8:48this is why their model breaks so we'll

8:51say this is done for you or one on one

8:55all right I can't put that there because

8:59I need to put the flywheel stuff there

9:00but this is for done for you or 101

9:02and let's see here you've got attention

9:14to clients or attention on clients

9:21clients results new clients time alright

9:42so as soon as this reaches a certain

9:45limit for every new client you bring on

9:50you get less time and for every time you

9:54get every every time you get less time

9:57you can give less of it to your clients

10:00or it has to be spread thinner and the

10:03less attention you give your clients the

10:06less results they get and the less

10:08results they get the less new clients

10:11you get and so it actually it works fine

10:14up until the point but then it works

10:16adversely and it goes boom

10:18same with one-on-one consulting it has

10:24an anti flywheel

10:33so how does it end if you buy other

10:36people to do the work they just

10:43companies it gets less and less and less

10:53efficient for every new human that gets

10:55added how could it possibly get more

11:02efficient but this new there's never a

11:08time when when things get more efficient

11:10by adding more humans you know what I

11:13mean like generally that makes things

11:17worse

11:20I'll use a perfect example with the

11:22Yellow Pages anyone using them to manage

11:28their ads

11:37it's what Yellowpages thought

11:42Yellowpages actually had a flywheel when

11:44they had one book because for every new

11:47person that came the more people used

11:49the book the more people that use the

11:51book the more they could charge for

11:52their ads they had a system that was a

11:55was it has it was a flywheel and that's

11:58what how they made a ton of money and

11:59they were crushing it for a long time

12:01but then when things came online they

12:03thought oh let's offer services now bad

12:05move I'll give another example let's say

12:14you're a mechanic and you've got a shop

12:16let's say that you can do one job a day

12:19so if one customer a day and you know

12:22for every new customer you get up to 30

12:25is good making more money you're getting

12:27more utility from your machines your

12:30rent your time all that but then let's

12:33say you get 60 customers one month now

12:36every customer is going to have to wait

12:38twice as long or every job you do is

12:41going to have to be half as good which

12:46is gonna mean customers don't come back

12:48and customers don't come in the first

12:50place

12:51because you take a long time or you

12:53don't do a very good job so the training

13:02one is is interesting it's this tons of

13:05dynamics to it first of all you've got

13:07to think about it as a system with

13:10training it can handle a huge amount

13:13more volume because instead of

13:15delivering the advice yourself well

13:17really the model goes in different

13:19stages doing the work is the most time

13:22intensive thing there is after that

13:25one-on-one advice is after that like

13:28coaching is and then after that creating

13:31an automated product is right so each

13:37each system can handle more and more

13:39volume with really the same or less

13:43human resources

13:50yeah well it that depends on the program

13:52and everything right so ways that I've

13:56used I mean things which I've come up

13:59with and I started out with done for you

14:01when I experienced this exact thing

14:03right then I went to one on one

14:04experience this exact thing went to a

14:06hybrid sort of model it experienced the

14:08same thing each time though I got up to

14:10a higher plateau and then one huge

14:20breakthroughs have been like Facebook

14:23group that thing helps you really apply

14:29a bit of a flywheel because for every

14:33new customer you get there's the ability

14:36of someone's questions going to get

14:38answered faster and they're going to get

14:40more responses and better answers right

14:41so if every additional can you stop

14:44making that noise so for every

14:47additional unit of customers you get you

14:51actually your customer experience in the

14:53group gets better right and then you've

14:57also got to think about time so now that

15:01we're doing the recordings and all

15:03they're in our business the more

15:13mastermind events we do the more Q&A

15:15calls we do the more people that join

15:16the more questions that are asked the

15:18deeper our archives of content which

15:21means when a new customer joins the bit

15:23of the experience like never before

15:26were we in a position where new master

15:28my members could instantly watch an

15:31event so you attended two events did you

15:35say you watch both

15:41so you got to attend two events before

15:44attaining an event

15:46how many masterminds can do that but

15:52then I also thought about search that's

15:57another thing so with our search the

16:05more people that search the better the

16:08search results get because it has an

16:10algorithm in it optimizes it so the more

16:12customers we get the better the skits

16:13and the longer we have been in business

16:16the bit of the skits the more customers

16:18we get here the bit of these get the

16:20longer we've been in business the bit of

16:22the skits a lot same here to have a

16:26flywheel you have only one thing has to

16:29be true for you to have a flywheel and

16:31it is this

16:44for every one customer the experience

17:01must get better

17:17that's what makes it happen so with a

17:22mechanic up into a point he's fine but

17:29then every for every one customer the

17:32experience gets worse all right so if

17:40you have a machine where with every new

17:43one customer the experience gets worse

17:46you the worst thing you can do is try

17:50and get more customers that's actually

17:55not what you want to do and every single

18:01system in the universe has a threshold

18:03limit for example a basketball team I

18:05think this is what five players on the

18:07court or something yeah so imagine if

18:09you put a hundred is they're gonna get

18:12twenty times better probably no one will

18:15be able to score a point right so it

18:18doesn't it doesn't work like that it's

18:20probably yet its threshold right at five

18:22that's probably where it's where it's

18:23really good because people come up with

18:26these numbers based on things like

18:27that's right

18:35so this is the main thing you want to

18:41think about all the time how can we that

18:46this is called different things its

18:47network effects this is a network effect

18:50a classic example is if one person has

18:54one phone it is totally useless imagine

18:57the person who bought the first

18:58telephone now I'm gonna call them they

19:03ain't going to call no one that's an

19:07actual joke about network effects

19:09because this truly is useless because no

19:12one's gonna call you can't do it it's

19:14just not doing anything but the more

19:18people that have a phone the more people

19:20can call you the more people you can

19:22call so there is a network effect no

19:25one's like our men please don't add any

19:28more telephones like to the to the

19:30public but how often do people say that

19:33- like one-on-one consultants please man

19:35don't take you on any more clients you

19:38know I like the attention you give me

19:40you know what I mean

19:46so this is this makes sense

20:03yeah yeah I've had to keep finding the

20:08limit all the time and I just keep

20:10trying to think how can I get around

20:12this damn thing and then you know I can

20:13figure it out just like one on ones

20:16women we see when I started up people I

20:18used to do one-on-ones are not people

20:19and then you know it's fine at first and

20:23then they're more customers oh my god

20:25this thing is just out of control

20:26so I was like let's just force people

20:28onto the Q&A calls like Joker sherbet

20:32with his emails allowing people to do

20:34their you were allowing people to do

20:36emails right if you allow emails gets

20:40worse if you allow one-on-one calls

20:44worse those things make it worse if

20:53you're doing emails this is getting

20:55worse if you're doing call when I want

20:57cause this is getting worse

21:11sure there's tons of things so some

21:17other things we did is like I spoke

21:20about how a lot of like these some

21:23masterminds where the the teacher of the

21:25mastermind will recommend that everyone

21:28just be a carbon copy of demon right and

21:31then what happens is the opportunity

21:34might be good but then the only thing

21:36those people know how to do is create a

21:40mastermind teaching other people how to

21:41be them and the only thing their

21:43students know how to do is create a

21:45mastermind teaching their people how to

21:46do them

21:46we have an anti flywheel here all right

21:50this thing's going to blow up and so one

21:54key thing that that I had to do to

21:59really think about this could get better

22:01was the niche now this you can do niches

22:12within niches so if Andrew like I used

22:15to start off by teaching people how to

22:17start a digital marketing consulting

22:19business to fund the assess business

22:21alright that was how narrow my niche is

22:23who was in it at that point you're in it

22:26right and Paul Paul Ryan was in it - and

22:29you were in it yeah so that's literally

22:32how narrow it was back then

22:34because that's what I was doing and then

22:37it we inter but there's only so far I

22:39could go in that before I was like

22:40alright how to do digital marketing they

22:44which was mostly how to sell websites to

22:46local businesses then there was only so

22:48far that how to sell digital marketing

22:50retainers to local businesses and then

22:52you know it turned into how to start

22:55like a digital marketing consulting

22:57business now it's getting a bit more

22:58broad and now it could include SEO it

23:02could include website design and digital

23:03marketing for Adwords Facebook you know

23:05now I'm getting some more stuff in there

23:07and then it became like how to start a

23:12consulting business and really any niche

23:15I've made it broader every time and this

23:17time with accelerator 2.0

23:19we didn't tell recommend anyone any

23:23specific niche and then we get you know

23:27our variations like hunters so porn

23:33addiction consulting and then his one

23:35someone else saw that and did irritable

23:38bowel syndrome consulting someone else

23:40is going to see their and do something

23:41else so that's a flywheel right for

23:45every new customer who picks a unique

23:48niche we get better yeah

23:53someone saw that and got he got that

23:55idea from you video game addiction

23:57alright so fit that you can already see

24:00the flywheel spinning and it's just

24:02early days flywheel no nowhere near as

24:11bad ass as Amazon Swan but at least it's

24:15been in the right way and Andrew asked

24:22me about this who's like but I'm in

24:23accounting what am i doing all of us and

24:25I said yeah but there's niches within

24:29that I was like you know every different

24:32accountant is different there's tax

24:34there's there's all sorts of stuff and

24:36then there's the type of business that

24:37they might do it for there's the type of

24:39person they are there's there's all

24:41sorts of stuff right so in the beginning

24:44Andrew used to like just show people

24:46just do this honestly do this and he

24:49forced people to do like the same thing

24:51and he ended up with like you know

24:56you've got to kind of think about it

24:57like just a fishtank sort of thing and

24:59your students are in there these

25:00organisms and he was just producing like

25:04carbon and copy organisms that were all

25:06the same and that's not very good it'll

25:12work for a while but people who are just

25:14carbon copy they don't enjoy it that

25:16much because it's not really deem it

25:18doesn't this it's not you know it's not

25:20personalized that's why kids don't like

25:22wearing uniforms you know that's why no

25:26one wants to just be the same as

25:28something else that's why the suburbs

25:29with those houses are just the same two

25:31people who live in those places

25:35boo-yeah I hate those places but

25:38somewhere that has so much variation

25:40like in Europe like you know how it's

25:43all old and there's all this different

25:44stuff we're in New York how there's

25:46modern buildings old buildings new

25:47building is all like there's so much

25:49variation there that it people like it

25:53and so all of these place all of these

25:59things create Network effects or create

26:02a flywheel and Andrew was able to solve

26:05it still within the niche of accounting

26:07by stopping forcing all of his people to

26:10do exact the exact same thing he you

26:14know he he allowed people the freedom to

26:16take the core training and apply a piece

26:20of themself to it to create a unique

26:23variation and the easiest way to think

26:26about it is with you know with DNA you

26:36have an equation where you might have x

26:40and y all right so let's say this is one

26:49element this is another element well you

26:53want to think of pretty much you and

26:55your program is this and then every

26:58customer you have as this and this is

27:06program and what a lot of info

27:10businesses do is they take in a unique

27:14individual with their program and they

27:16force the x over the Y and they produce

27:19an X X all right

27:23and nowadays just creating X X is

27:25everywhere and all the X X's are

27:28creating as X X's and it's just going to

27:29this is going to blow up but with what I

27:36did with accelerator 2.0 and what

27:38Andrews done with his latest program is

27:40we producing x and y but every new

27:45customer that comes in is a

27:47one exit xbb right so they're taking a

27:53strand of this and applying it with them

27:56and creating something which is

27:58impossible that anything else is because

28:01every unique individual has their own

28:04thing which they bring and because

28:06there's no two people in the world that

28:08share the same DNA it's impossible for

28:10there to be you see this is the only way

28:14you can get a flywheel if you force the

28:19X X you will have the anti flywheel

28:29you

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