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0:12>> What's up, friends? Welcome into fantasy
0:15focus football alongside Field Yates and
0:17Mike Clay. You guys know what day it is.
0:19Mike. Mike. Mike. Mike. Mike. Mike.
0:20Mike. You know what day it is?
0:22>> Day.
0:23>> Well executed by this movie.
0:25>> We did not even plan that. I'm glad that
0:27you knew.
0:27>> I know it is. No fool. You're no fool.
0:30>> It just It's interesting though because
0:32you may have noticed that Daniel tried
0:34to tease something hilarious and funny
0:35up to Mike and Mike indulged him and
0:37played along with the bit.
0:38>> He did.
0:39>> Meanwhile, I tried to do things to kind
0:40of peique Mike's interest a little bit.
0:42Get him going.
0:43>> Maybe draw some energy out of Mike Clay
0:45and he Eores me.
0:47>> That does happen.
0:48>> What? What?
0:48>> You eore me.
0:49>> Eeyore. Do you know who Eeyore is?
0:51>> Just like that was a joke.
0:53>> Oh. Oh, got it. Oh, that was the joke.
0:55>> Nailed it. All right. You know what they
0:57say when you have to explain the joke.
0:58Yeah, [laughter]
0:59>> perfect joke.
1:00>> We're very excited to have Field back.
1:02Obviously spent a little bit of time
1:03yesterday in Miami, then flew up really
1:05quickly to the Cape Cod and then
1:07finished out with dinner in Jackson Hole
1:08before making his way back here. Little
1:11Tanner.
1:11>> Do you guys see it on the watch tan?
1:12>> Yeah, I can see it. I can see it.
1:13>> Watch tan is prevalent today. That Miami
1:15sun in September
1:17>> does not skip a beat.
1:18>> Does not at all. You know what else
1:20doesn't skip a beat? This show right
1:21now. As we dive into all the fun stuff
1:24that we're going to get into today,
1:25we're going to pay off everything that
1:26was week one really quickly with the
1:28starts of the week. Normally, we would
1:29do that yesterday, but because Field
1:30wasn't here, we wanted to wait and do it
1:31today.
1:32>> Yeah, we did do the uh knockout league,
1:34though, and the team got chopped
1:36obviously, so we just don't worry about
1:38it. We don't have to talk about it
1:39anymore. That's funny because yeah, they
1:41don't see it that way, but
1:42>> yeah, we got week two rankings as well
1:43and some random rankings. We got a loser
1:45punishment as well that Field is going
1:47to spin the wheel on. But first and
1:48foremost, guys, let's start with the
1:49starts of the week really quickly. We'll
1:51close out all the things that was week
1:53one. By the way, for our production team
1:54up there, just so you guys can have a
Starts of the Week from Week 1
1:56little peek behind the curtain. We got
1:57no monitors in here today.
1:58>> We cannot see our start to the week. I
1:59think Field pulled some plugs out. So
2:02that's what happened. My team actually,
2:04you know what I I felt at the end of
2:06Sunday night. I was like, "Okay, that
2:08team was really bad. My starts of the
2:10week team. It wasn't bad, but I mean it
2:12was the worst out of the three of us,
2:13but it was a little closer than I
2:14thought it was going to be."
2:15>> Agreed.
2:16>> Yeah. He's like, "I was really bad, but
2:17actually you guys were bad. Pretty bad."
2:19No. No. You know, I forgot that I had
2:20Bree [laughter] Hall. That was the thing
2:21is I forgot that I had Bree Hall. So, I
2:23had two respectable picks. An okay pick
2:24and the worst pick of the week by far.
2:26The worst pick of the season.
2:27>> Mine were okay. I'm pretty I mean,
2:28Herbert underperformed, but Javvante and
2:30Above went off. Mayor nine points from a
2:32tight end is fine. It's not great, but
2:34it's fine. So, I'm okay with it.
2:36>> All right. So, you end up with 74.86
2:38points.
2:38>> Yep.
2:39>> Daniel with Dak Prescott, Travis Han,
2:42Lad McConi, Trevor H. Travis Han, sorry,
2:45and Jawan Johnson all scored at least
2:4714.4 Four fantasy,
2:49>> you go for 62.8.
2:51>> Y
2:52>> I go with Jackson Dart. Thank you,
2:53Jackson.
2:54>> Reese Hall
2:55>> also did great.
2:56>> T McMillan and a half points
2:58>> and Coulson Loveland.
2:59>> You know what sucks about this is you
3:01get to use these players one time the
3:04entire season and Coulson Lovelin gave
3:06you a zero.
3:08>> The amazing part is basically so again
3:10there's only three of us picking and
3:11once you guys make your choice at tight
3:12end, quarterback or running back y I can
3:15just wait and be patient. Mhm. So, in
3:17the third round, I had a tight end and I
3:19believe a running back left over to take
3:21and I was like, "Well, I'm not going to
3:22take a tight end because you guys
3:24already have. I'll just save Coloulston
3:26Lovelin for my final pick." I did that
3:28and that's what you get for waiting. I
3:30got zero points. So,
3:32>> do I get to spin the punishment?
3:34>> You bet. We all We said the entire
3:36draft.
3:36>> I'll come over there.
3:37>> All right. See it from there.
3:38>> Don't wait on tight end. I'll switch.
3:40We'll do this
3:42>> in between us. Okay. They want it in
3:43between. So, you sit down.
3:44>> I'm going to bring it over. Hold on.
3:46It's all right. We know what we're
3:46doing.
3:47>> It's week one.
3:47>> A strict you break it, you pay for it in
3:50the studio. So if you
3:51>> We need a better plan for this next
3:52week.
3:53>> All right.
3:53>> Here we go.
3:54>> Here we go. Just a quick reminder. Baby
Field spins the punishment wheel
3:56food taste test. Safe smelling salts.
3:58Chat's choice beer mile. Super sour
4:00starts of the week. Tik Tok dance trend.
4:02Temporary neck tattoo. Fantasy poetry
4:04slam. Double punishment. Winner's
4:06choice. Wax a leg. Wear Fields Bucky
4:10suit. That's not even a punishment. You
4:11do that at home for fun anyways. All
4:13right. And then everyone loses. Fields.
4:14You go ahead. And there there's there's
4:16at least one of these we kind of have to
4:17run by the powers that be. So if you get
4:19it, we'll discuss it. But anyways, here
4:20we go. Without further ado,
4:24>> already spinning spinning spinning and
4:26we're getting TO
4:30>> NO WAY. NO.
4:31>> WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
4:32>> NO WAY. THAT IS HILARIOUS. YOU
4:34>> got to be kidding me.
4:35>> Oh my god.
4:35>> I DON'T LIKE IT.
4:36>> I should be exempt cuz I was first.
4:37>> You That's not the That's exempt.
4:39>> So what happens? Everyone loses and
4:42whatever I get, we all have to do it
4:44together. Oh my god. I am sorry guys.
4:47>> THANKS A LOT.
4:48>> FOR ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
4:50>> Thank you Coloulston Lovelin for this.
4:53>> What a right there.
4:55>> Can't believe this is week one
4:57>> again. [screaming]
4:58[laughter]
4:59OKAY, hold on. At this point, we got to
5:01We're done, right? We're done. We're
5:02good.
5:02>> What does that mean? They cancel each
5:03other out. We'll do one more.
5:04>> That's right. One last time. Oh my.
5:06>> If it goes again, then we are not We are
5:08not
5:09>> Yeah. Spin the wheel. Come on.
5:10>> Do we have like a weight that's allowing
5:12it to stop when everybody loses?
5:13>> I wish that would be the back sign. I
5:15want everyone.
5:16>> Oh, we're not. There's not one back
5:17there.
5:19>> Temporary neck tattoo for field. You're
5:22going to look so sick with a temporary
5:23neck tattoo.
5:24>> We're all going to have temporary neck
5:25tattoos, though, Daniel.
5:26>> Oh, you forgot already.
5:28>> I forgot already.
5:29>> Um, all right. All right, moving on.
5:30>> Temporary neck tattoos will be applied.
5:32We We can decide what day we want to do
5:34them. I I would say preferably not
5:36tomorrow. I got to do TV all day.
5:37[laughter]
5:38>> No, that's fair. are definitely down
5:40tomorrow.
5:41>> Uh we'll talk about this maybe on
5:42Friday. And uh
5:44>> I like that.
5:44>> We got to we got to get like I want
5:46bulky neck tattoos.
5:47>> We got to think about we said Cody Rhod
5:49style neck. We actually could probably
5:50on Amazon get tatto.
5:53>> Yeah,
5:53>> I wouldn't be shocked if we could go on
5:55Amazon and find some Mike Wright tattoos
5:56as well. You know, our buddy from the
5:58footballers cuz he's got some neck
5:59tattoos as well.
6:00>> All right, let's let's dive in here
6:01really quickly. Um Field, you sent out a
Week 1 "Stinks of the Week"
6:04tweet.
6:05>> Yeah, I'm asking this every week.
6:06>> Best worst teams of the week. Yeah. So,
6:09uh, does your team absolutely stink in
6:10week one? First of all, you're not
6:11alone. My Stars of the Week team
6:13definitely stinkked. Definitely
6:14stinkked.
6:14>> Mike's knockout team stunk.
6:16>> That one was bad.
6:17>> But I wanted to see like I I wanted to
6:18get some of the best worst fantasy teams
6:21of the week. And I want to try to do
6:22this each and every week because
6:24>> I I I know that we play this game, we
6:26look forward to it all year, but one bad
6:28week completely change your stance on
6:30playing fantasy football. If you're
6:31thinking about retirement after week one
6:33because of the lineup you put up, just I
6:35want you all to know this is a safe
6:36space. You're not alone. So, let's go
6:38ahead and run a couple of the lineups
6:40from week one. These are real actual
6:42lineups. Now, this is a nonPPR league.
6:44So, let me start here. I'm going to read
6:46the first team. Bo Nicks, Devon Achan,
6:49Rico Dael, Saquon Barkley, Devon uh
6:52Devonte Adams, Ted McMillan, Mark
6:54Andrews, the Patriots defense, and
6:57Cameron Dicker, which meant the high
6:58score of that team was on the bench.
7:01Well, J Daniels on [laughter] the bench,
7:02but the high score of the player that
7:04actually participated in the game was
7:06Devon A.
7:06>> Oh, Saquin had eight, but I'm sorry. Not
7:09by much though.
7:10>> And then on the other side, another
7:11person won a matchup with this team.
7:14Drake May, Jadarian Price, Jonathan
7:16Brooks, Marvin Harrison Jr., Jamar
7:19Chase, Drake London, Trey McBride, the
7:21Texans defense, and Harrison Meas who
7:24got one point on one extra point.
7:26>> Thank goodness for Trey McBride.32 to
7:2842.14.
7:31knockout team. Awful.
7:32>> Awful right there. And that's in a three
7:34receiver league. That is not in a two
7:36wide receiver league.
7:37>> So, shout out to that person who won.
7:40Uh, but barely. Here's another bad one.
7:42And this, uh, is once again, uh, I think
7:45this one actually is PPR. Uh, no, it's
7:47not. I take that back. Sorry. Um, I
7:48actually don't know what kind of scoring
7:50this is because it's kind of funky.
7:51>> Half it looks like it's half point, I
7:52think.
7:52>> Yes, there you go. Half PPR. Good call,
7:54Mike. Here we go. Uh Drake May, James
7:57Cook, Jadarium Price, Devonte Smith, Ted
8:00Ro McMillan, Tucker Craft, Saquon
8:02Barkley, the Rams defense, and Chase
8:04Mclofflin who got to 11 points. He was
8:06the best player on your team. White Sox
8:08fan Michael. At least the White Sox are
8:10pretty good this year. They're going to
8:10make the playoffs if I had to guess. Um
8:13last one postseason baseball.
8:15>> Bob Harard. This is the last one here.
8:18Uh and this one is again non-Pr. A lot
8:20of these scores are low. It's because
8:21they're non-Pr. We're taking PPR
8:23submissions as well. But Bo Nicks, James
8:25Cook, Travis Han, Jackson Smith and
8:28Jigba, Jameson Williams, Tucker Craft,
8:30Rashi Rice, Jaylen Waddle. You're
8:32probably thinking going into this week,
8:33I got Jackson Smith and Jigba with 18.2.
8:36We're cooking right here. Uh, not so
8:38fast, my friends. So, uh, 58.44 points.
8:42We'll take a look at more nonPPR
8:44submissions going forward, but man,
8:46alive. This game is the greatest thing
8:47ever, and it can agonize you to no end.
8:50And by the way, the guy who that team,
8:52the one that you just said put up 58
8:53points and lost by about 50 points in
8:55week one, the defending champion of his
8:57league. So it shows you things can
8:59change quickly. That guy obviously knows
9:01what he's doing. Um our friend uh JJ
9:03Zachary today posted a graphic or it
9:05might have been last night showing the
9:07correlation between where guys are after
9:10week one and where they are by the end
9:12of the season at each position like in
9:14terms of fantasy performance. And
9:15there's almost no correlation. Week one
9:17can to be chaos, right? Don't overthink
9:20week one very much. You know, it's we're
9:22just looking forward.
9:23>> There's a long way to go here.
9:24>> Well, if you do that, congratulations
9:26because that makes you different than me
9:27cuz I've been overthinking week one
9:29since Monday Night Football.
9:30>> I I did everything perfect process.
9:32>> Not me. Let's dive into our week two
Week 2 Rankings
9:34rankings where we're not overthinking it
9:36or overreacting to all the things that
9:38happened in week one. We'll start at the
9:39quarterback position, my friends.
9:41>> Do it.
9:41>> Quarterbacks that we got here for the
9:43top 10 in week two. We got Josh Allen.
9:46Surprisingly a QB1. Everyone has them
9:48there this year.
9:48>> Yeah. Weird.
9:49>> Lamar Jackson, Brock Pury, Jaylen Herz,
9:51Dak Prescott, then Caleb Williams, Jaden
9:53Daniels, Justin Herbert at QB8, Jackson
9:56Dart at nine, and Patrick Mahomes rounds
9:58out the top 10, my friends.
10:00>> Yeah.
10:00>> What do you notice about this list,
10:02Mike? Anything stand out to you?
10:03>> Yeah, something very much stands out. A
10:05guy that's usually maybe
10:07>> eighth through 12th in the rankings,
10:09maybe sometimes a little lower. Sitting
10:11at QB3.
10:12>> Yeah.
10:12>> This week in pretty good. I wonder why,
10:15guys.
10:15>> Uh I have an idea. I have an idea.
10:17>> Yeah,
10:18>> Miami switch defenses with the Big 12
10:20this off.
10:20>> That's what it is.
10:21>> Yeah, everyone loves Miami is what it
10:23sounds like.
10:24>> Yes,
10:24>> rough work in progress there for Miami
10:27on both sides of the football. Um, but
10:28yeah, Brock Party is the guy I want to
Brock Purdy
10:30highlight here for obvious reasons. I
10:32mean, if you drafted him, you got him
10:33pretty cheap and you felt like he was
10:35probably going to be a streaming option.
10:36Maybe he'd slide in there as your your
10:38QB1 if he's the best guy you pick. But,
10:41um, he stands out as a mustard, a lineup
10:43lock here again at home against the
10:44Miami Dolphins. first of all looked
10:46really good in the opener. He was
10:48fantastic in that game. 25 of 34, 205
10:51yards, three touchdowns, had the one
10:53pick, but also 29 rushing yards, which
10:55is something that he kind of quietly
10:57does. You don't hear much about it, but
10:58he can add value with those legs and did
11:00that in week number one. Brock Pury has
11:04one of the best floors in fantasy at
11:07quarterback right now. 16.8 plus fantasy
11:09points. Now, in 17 of his last 22 games,
11:12he's averaging 18.6 per game during that
11:14stretch. And again, we just watched
11:16Miami give up three passing touchdowns
11:18to Kirk Cousins in week one. Y uh this
11:20should be a an easy game for the 49ers,
11:23especially on offense
11:24>> with start. Yeah.
11:25>> Yeah. What about Justin Herbert, guys?
11:27Can we talk about this kid because we
11:29had high expectations coming in. I'm
11:31worried if it doesn't get going here
11:33already in week two, we might be out on
11:36Justin Herbert.
11:37>> Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. There's a
11:39reason why.
Justin Herbert
11:40>> Yes, there's a reason why. Let's just
11:42we'll talk about this week for right now
11:43first, but like taking on the the Las
11:45Vegas Raiders, they were just so bad in
11:47week one against the Cardinals
11:50>> at home. I'm aware, Dan,
11:51>> guys,
11:52>> 209 passing yards, one touchdown. I do
11:55love that he had 29 yards on the ground,
11:57but only 13.2 fantasy points against
11:59this Raiders squad.
12:01>> We need to see what we expected in week
12:03one because if we don't, when you look
12:05at the schedule coming up, and we'll
12:07throw up a full screen about this. If
12:09you look at the schedule coming up for
12:10Justin Herbert, if he does not get
12:11rolling against Las Vegas, we might be
12:13out on him as a starter. Then he goes at
12:15Buffalo across the country, at Seattle,
12:18then Denver, then at Kansas City,
12:21>> then a buy, then at LA, then the Texans,
12:25and then he's at Baltimore.
12:27>> I mean, the Jets and the P. If this gets
12:29really tough, he needs to get on a roll
12:32now in this game because I don't think
12:34if he doesn't get it rolling before we
12:36get into that meat of the schedule,
12:38we're going to have a hard time having
12:39Justin Herbert as a top 10 quarterback.
12:41>> We're going to downgrade him for matchup
12:43in almost every single one of those
12:44situations. So, he needs to be playing
12:46at like a top five elite level because
12:48if you factor in the matchup just to
12:49consider starting him as a top 10 or top
12:5112 option, he's has to be playing at
12:53that elite level. We are buying in one
12:55more week as a top 10 guy because of all
12:57the stuff that we thought we were going
12:58to see last week. We just we have to see
13:00it against the Raiders. Otherwise, we'll
13:02be singing a different tune about Justin
13:04Herbert.
13:04>> Yeah, Buffalo week three. I think they
13:05can move the football in the game. Jared
13:07Goff and move the football tomorrow
13:09night as well. But yeah, I hear you.
13:10Listen, this one's tough for me to uh to
13:12discuss at this moment. I'm very
13:13frustrated by how the Chargers performed
13:14me too in week one. I think we all are.
13:16But I was especially confident in this
13:18group coming into the season. I did tell
13:20a funny story before the show. Uh on
13:22Fantasy Focus Countdown on Sunday, we
13:23did an eliminator segment. Yes. Where we
13:25all made our picks. There was four of us
13:27in total and I was very very I was I
13:29thought Joe Forinb was playing with fire
13:31by picking the Raiders and Joe who of
13:33course betting guy and kind of knows
13:35playing the long game how important that
13:37can be. Was like this is your one chance
13:38to bet on pick the Raiders do it and run
13:41the risk. He wins. I lose because I
13:44picked the Chargers and I was brazen
13:45with my confidence. Um, I do, of course,
13:48I I put my money where my mouth is and I
13:50make my picks and I was telling the guys
13:52this morning that I got a reminder to
13:54make my pick for week two and eliminator
13:55challenge.
13:56>> Okay.
13:56>> I'm like, what the crap is this? Like,
13:58am I going to have to get reminded every
13:59week that I picked the freaking Chargers
14:00in week one? Like, is this taunting?
14:02Yeah, it is taunting. Tattoo on. I've
14:04got to pick the Chargers [laughter]
14:05again. No, it turns out I I don't know
14:09if I accidentally did this or if I was
14:11hedging against my own confidence,
14:13[laughter] but I went in there and
14:14checked and I picked the Jaguars in week
14:16one. Love it.
14:16>> SO, I'M STILL ALIVE, BABY.
14:18>> NOT ALIVE IN THE COURT of public opinion
14:20because people were like, "What a trash
14:21pick that was."
14:22>> That's okay.
14:22>> That being said, I am alive in the
14:24eliminator league. So, that's good news.
14:26And I am picking the Buccaneers this
14:27weekend over the Browns. Field Yates
14:29does not put his money where his mouth
14:30is. Well, I didn't in this case by
14:32accident and I'm not mad about it. uh my
14:34quarterback pick and the theme for four
14:36out of my five picks with the reminder
14:38that QB and tight end are both inside
14:40the top 10. Yep.
14:41>> And then wide receiver and running back
14:43are both inside the top 20.
Caleb Williams
14:45>> My general theme for four out of my five
14:47picks is guys who matched in week one
14:51>> with an opportunity to kind of further
14:53cement themselves in week two, right?
14:55Not guys, not that Brock Party is Josh
14:57Allen, but there's a longer stretch of
14:59Brock Party being a pretty good fantasy
15:01quarterback than there is in the case of
15:03my quarterback pick, which is Caleb
15:04Williams, who Caleb Williams, you saw
15:08sixth in our ESPN consensus ranks this
15:10week. Was amazing. Highest scoring
15:12player in all fantasy in week one. The
15:14guy was lights out. He had his first
15:16career game with multiple rushing
15:18touchdowns. That's going to be hard to
15:19come by in general, but still an
15:21excellent feat for him. He averaged 9.3
15:24yards per attempt. So, he was aggressive
15:26as a runner. He was aggressive as a
15:28thrower. He completed 11 of 12 passes
15:31when throwing short of the sticks as
15:32well. Much more accurate, right? So,
15:34Caleb was hitting the throws he needed
15:36to hit, but he also was running. He also
15:38was afraid unafraid to take shots down
15:40the field when they were available. The
15:43reason why I think this game matters so
15:45much is he's not playing the Panthers
15:46again. Yes, he's instead playing the
15:47Vikings. And you may say, well, Jordan
15:49Love in the first half was lighting up
15:51the Vikings. And that's fair. That's
15:52sure that's accurate. He ended up
15:54completing 50% of his passes to Jordan
15:56Love. And Caleb Williams has played
15:58Minnesota four times in his career.
16:01>> Over his last three games, Caleb
16:03Williams, this is against Minnesota. He
16:05has attempted 98 passes. You would take
16:0833 pass attempts or, you know, 32 and a
16:11half passing attempts in any game.
16:13That's a good number for a quarterback
16:14in general. So in a good sample size on
16:16a per game basis, Caleb Williams over
16:18those last three games against the
16:19Vikings has two touchdown passes.
16:22>> Two. So Brian Flores, I think we would
16:24all agree amongst the best defensive
16:26minds in the NFL.
16:27>> I hate playing the Vikings defense.
16:29>> This is going to be a kitchen sink game.
16:30Have you guys seen all the charts that
16:32break down the blitz rate by defensive
16:34play callers from week one?
16:36>> Of course we have. Mike and I both we
16:37know.
16:37>> I mean, honestly, I mean Mike might have
16:39it in the database. Yeah. But anyways,
16:41if you go look, there's a bunch of
16:42charts that have made their way around
16:43the internet and basically it was like a
16:45lot of defensive coordinators throwing a
16:47comparable number of blitzes and then it
16:49was Brian Flores so far off the charts
16:50you couldn't see him. Like they blitzed
16:52on like 85% of Jordan Love's block
16:54dropbacks this past week. Now the
16:56Packers offensive line terrible. The
16:58Bears offensive line quite good. It'll
17:00be a different challenge for them. But
17:01if Caleb Williams comes out with 22
17:04fantasy points on Sunday against a Brian
17:06Flores defense, I think that the
17:08confidence level for Caleb Williams goes
17:10to the point where if he bubbles up as
17:12quarterback five in our rankings in week
17:13three, we don't talk about it. We're
17:15just like, "Yeah, all right, Caleb
17:16Williams, set it and forget it. He's a
17:17lineup lock in the playbook. Move on."
17:19>> If we get if we had 22 points in week
17:21two after what we saw in week one, I
17:23think top five basically rest of season
17:25until I am seeing something else with my
17:27eyes makes a ton of sense. I'm going
17:28with uh I'm going to try to avoid until
17:30we're at like week 10 like rest of
17:32season because it's like so much changes
17:34week
17:35>> if I rank Caleb number five overall
17:38amongst quarterbacks in week three. I'm
17:40not going to feel like I have to come to
17:41the show with an argument prepared for
17:43it. I'm going to be like, "Yeah, the guy
17:44>> I need to prove for two straight weeks,
17:46right?" So, huge weekend for Caleb
17:48Williams. Uh number six right now in
17:51ESPN consensus rank.
17:52>> Yeah, you guys are actually lower than
17:53me this week. So, I'm buying in uh on
17:56him. But you're right. This is a big
17:57test. Good. Great.
17:58>> Um, actually a note I my uh rankings I
18:00was having a little bit of an issue with
18:02the uh the rankings tool last night.
18:03Happens
18:04>> happens every once in a while. So we
18:06bumped up a little bit
18:07>> Wi-Fi, you know, on airplanes and at the
18:09beach as well.
18:10>> You weren't on United, were you?
18:11>> I was not on Sky.
18:14I needed to be on United. I flew Mike's
18:16jet and the air airplane Wi-Fi is not
18:18great.
18:18>> Oh, that's not good. I'll talk to my
18:20mobile about that.
18:21>> Yes. Yes, that's fair. All right, let's
18:23talk about running backs next, my
18:24friends. Top 20 running backs here in
18:26consensus for week two. Top three do not
18:30surprise Jir Gibbs. Actually the top
18:31five don't surprise. Jir Gibbs, Bjan
18:33Robinson, CMC, Jonathan Taylor and
18:35Ashton Genty 6 through10. Derrick Henry,
18:38Kenneth Walker the third after that
18:40major game. James Cook back in the top
18:4210. Javvante Williams and Saquon Barkley
18:4411 through 20. Devon Achan Omari and
18:47Hampton Bree Hall Chase Brown and
18:49DeAndre Swift with David Montgomery.
18:51Kyron Williams, Bucky Irving, Chuba
18:54Hubard, and Raandre Stevenson.
18:56>> Pretty good group.
18:57>> Yeah, pretty good group right there.
18:58>> Not too bad. Are you buying in, Mike? I
19:00saw that you wanted to talk about Chuba
19:01Hubard. Are you buying into this
19:03potentially being his backfield after
19:04week one? Do you think there's more in
Chuba Hubbard
19:06this tank? How do you feel about this
19:07kid?
19:08>> Uh, a lot of coaches and play callers
19:10kind of just told us what we needed to
19:12know in week one, whether it was
19:14splitting up the back field or leaning
19:16heavily on one running back. And
19:18Carolina told us what their plan is, at
19:20least for the short term. It's exactly
19:21what field he thought it was going to
19:22be. It's the Chuba Hubard show for sure.
19:25Played 69% of the snaps. Uh he did that
19:28once of all last season. I believe it
19:31was week two last year. So it was a
19:32little bit different in terms of usage.
19:34The snaps were 43 to 12 over Jonathan
19:37Brooks. He also outed him. Is that
19:39outed? Yeah. Out. Ran my rout.
19:41>> I said st earlier so out sounds Yeah.
19:44>> He ran 21 routes to Brooks's five. So,
19:48it wasn't even close in passing
19:49situations or even running the ball. I
19:51mean, it wasn't a high volume game
19:52because they were trailing throughout,
19:53but he still had 10 for 49 in a
19:54touchdown. Targeted three times, had 38
19:57yards there, uh, and for a touchdown as
19:59well. Um, the only positives, we'll kind
20:02of see how good the Atlanta defense is
20:04against the run. It's too early to tell.
20:05I'm not too worried about it. They did
20:06hold the Steelers running backs in check
20:08last week, but um, I consider this a
20:11neutral matchup. maybe leans towards a
20:12good matchup, but the bottom line is the
20:14guy is probably going to play 65 70% of
20:17the snaps. And in this in this league,
20:19that's enough to be at least a fringe
20:21RB, too. So, he'll be he'll be in my
20:23lineups this week if I have him.
20:24>> Are you worried at all about what we've
20:26seen in the past from Tuba Harvard where
20:27this might be a really nice start to the
20:29season and then we haven't seen him keep
20:31the job necessarily?
20:32>> He did he did what, two years ago and
20:34three years ago. It was just last year
20:36that he got hurt and then he wasn't
20:38playing well. So,
20:39>> they want Jonathan Brooks to be the guy.
20:40I mean, they drafted at some point.
20:42>> I don't feel that way personally cuz I I
20:43I didn't feel that way coming into the
20:45season. So, I'm I'm okay with Chuba kind
20:46of like maintaining sort of like lowend
20:48RB2 flax value. Okay.
20:50>> Um I also would note that like when he
20:51did lose that job last year when he got
20:53hurt
20:53>> like Rico D didn't play like pretty good
20:56football. He played like best running
20:58back in NFL football for three weeks
21:00back. They didn't really have a choice,
21:02right? like it wasn't it was so good
21:04from him but they had no choice but to
21:06keep uh Rico Dao as the hot hand there
21:09for
21:09>> and that's kind of what they said too
21:11like they had Preston like look I mean
21:12what are you going to do what do you
21:13want us to do like we have to and then
21:15he did start to come back to earth and
21:16then Hubard started to play a little
21:18more down the stretch
21:19>> one dynamic I'm always thinking about
21:20early in the season in fantasy for
21:21backfields is if there are teams that
21:23aren't very good that we either know
21:25from the beginning or eventually show
21:27themselves to not be very good could a
21:29veteran be vulnerable to losing his role
21:32losing some of his role down the stretch
21:34to a young upandcomer. I don't think
21:36that's really in play here for Carolina
21:38because this division is so wide open.
21:40They won the division last year. That to
21:42me would be the clearest path for
21:44Jonathan Brooks to see his role expand
21:46more than I think the Panthers are
21:47currently expecting it to expand. Um
21:50this is not the only example. Just an
21:52example is like I wonder what happens if
21:55Tennessee goes 0 and4 to start.
21:57>> Like does Tony Pard generate some trade
22:00interest? Not that Tony's an amazing
22:01player, but still like teams looking for
22:03some depth at running back. Um, could
22:05the team say, you know, Taj Spear is in
22:07a contract here? Like we should probably
22:09decide whether he's going to be a guy
22:11for us going forward. Uh, Tennessee, of
22:13course, did not look good in week one.
22:15Doesn't apply, though, in the case of
22:16Carolina to me.
David Montgomery
22:17>> Yeah.
22:18>> All right. I'm going to talk about David
22:19Montgomery, guys. Another year he was
22:22drafted outside the top 20 at running
22:23back. Another year. We're already in
22:25week two. We're ranking him inside the
22:26top 20. And it's not because of
22:28injuries. It's not because of byweeks.
22:29David Montgomery kind of doing the
22:31narrative that we thought it would be,
22:32which means he needs to be a touchdown
22:34equity guy in this offense. One, and the
22:36Texans need to play really good defense
22:38for him to touch the ball a lot. Wasn't
22:39very efficient. Only 20 car, not only 20
22:41carries, but only three yards per carry,
22:44had 60 yards, but he did have three
22:46receptions, which I really like as well
22:47for 19 yards. Just the idea that he's
22:49getting a little bit more passing game
22:50work than we saw in Detroit. I feel
22:52differently than you guys do about Woody
22:54Marks. Um, I I understand the split that
22:57they had, but I feel like David
22:58Montgomery still is going to be the guy
22:59with the touchdown equity. He's going to
23:00be the one that they have at the goal
23:02line. He's the guy that it feels like
23:03they want to be their short yardage
23:04back. If they loved Woody Marks as much
23:05as they did, I don't think they would
23:06have brought brought in David Montgomery
23:07and had him touch the ball 23 times in
23:10week one. I still love him. He's an RB2
23:13for me. I have my running back 15. I
23:14think everyone has him in the 15 to 20
23:16range. We're rolling out there again
23:18against Cincy, who by the way, Bucky
23:20Irving just carved up this Cincy defense
23:23on the ground. So there's that's a shot
23:24here for the Texans running backs to do
23:26some things.
23:27>> I think we're all closely ranked enough
23:28for this week that we see David
23:30Montgomery's value in week two similar,
23:32right? I mean, you're at 15, you're at
23:3415, I'm at
23:35>> 19. Yeah,
23:35>> I was surp I wasn't surprised because
23:37it's the internet, but I went and I saw
23:39some of the commentary in response to
23:41the video that we posted on Fantasy
23:42Vocus at Twitter or on Twitter I should
23:44say. Um where I described David
23:46Montgomery as a sell high. I think Mike
23:47was aligned there. Yeah. And a decent
23:49number of the responses there were there
23:51were a couple responses that stood out
23:52to me. one was like, "Sell high. I got
23:55this guy in the seventh round and now
23:57I'm playing him in my lineup." And I'm
23:59like, "That's that's kind of the point
24:00is that like you got him in the seventh
24:02round to maybe be your flex and somebody
24:04else might be like, dude, I would trade
24:06you my RB2 for David Montgomery and
24:08whoever name your random RB2 that you
24:11think is going to be better over the
24:12course of the season than Montgomery and
24:14turn Montgomery into that player."
24:16Right? like after one week the the shine
24:18is not off some of these guys that were
24:19ranked ahead of Montgomery so much that
24:21you shouldn't consider trading him. The
24:23other response was like, "Yeah, but um
24:25Woody Marks was only playing on passing
24:28downs and two-minute situations when
24:30they're speeding the ball up." I'm like,
24:31"Well, that that's valuable, right? In
24:32our game, it's really valuable."
24:33>> That's also not true. He had nine
24:34carries, did Woody Marks, but it's also
24:37it's like, you know, there is plenty of
24:39data that shows like one target for a
24:41running back is demonstrabably more
24:43valuable than one rush. Like if you're
24:45saying David Montgomery is going to got
24:47going to get a ton of rushing volume and
24:49maybe a lot of touchdowns, like okay,
24:51fine. Like he can be Jonathan Taylor
24:53Light. He over three yards a carry,
24:55right? Like he's a good player. And
24:56people My other favorite, this is my
24:57last favorite one was imagine how many
25:00more yards per carry he would have
25:01averaged if he hadn't rushed the ball
25:03into the end zone on those two
25:04occasions.
25:05>> Uh five more yards maybe. [laughter]
25:08>> Sorry, you're right. He would have
25:09actually just kept going for three miles
25:10and he would have averaged 10 yards per
25:12carry.
25:12>> And also, I'll add this. They had 73
25:14offensive snaps. Normally, they're going
25:16to have 10 to 12 fewer than that. So,
25:18that's also going to inflate his overall
25:20snaps here. Again, he played 37 snaps.
25:22Woody Marks played 36. Woody Marks was
25:24on the field for half the plays. I mean,
25:26that's a lot. That's that's a big
25:27number. So, again, that's our point.
25:28We're not saying he can't hang in the
25:30RB2 flex conversation. He absolutely
25:32can. The point is he's at a ceiling
25:34value right now. So, if you could take
25:35advantage of that, we're not saying
25:36trade him for Marvin Harrison or someone
25:38else picked in the seventh round. Yeah,
25:40the point is maybe you can jump up and
25:42get a guy that was drafted in the fourth
25:43round or third round that had a bad week
25:45one. Throw another piece in something
25:47like that. I don't know. You play the
25:48game, you know.
25:49>> Just a few names. I'm just going to, you
25:50know, randomly throw three names out
25:51here that I think were in the RB2ish
25:53conversation. I'd be curious where where
25:55you guys have them right now in like
25:57your short-term evaluation. Would you
25:59rather David Montgomery or Kairen
26:00Williams?
26:02>> Uh, I'm going to still lean towards
26:04Kirron. I think the Rams offense is
26:05still going to be
26:05>> Okay. So, but that's a name that I think
26:08David Montgomery.
26:08>> Okay. So, you you're different. You're
26:10there. Okay.
26:10>> But I also liked Blake Cororm a lot more
26:12than you guys did coming into the
26:13season.
26:13>> David Montgomery or Travis Han.
26:15>> Travis Han.
26:16>> Uh Han.
26:17>> Okay. I think you could make that trade
26:18right now. I think somebody who has
26:19Travis Han would would take Sorry, every
26:22somebody who has David Montgomery would
26:23take Travis Han right now. There's
26:25there's a name, right?
26:26>> Let's do Can you do a wide receiver? Cuz
26:27I think if you grabbed him in the
26:29seventh round, maybe as your third
26:30running back, the team that's going to
26:31be trading for him wants to start a
26:33running back, which means you would
26:34probably give up something that's not a
26:35running back to get as a starter. Is
26:37there a wide receiver that you would
26:38like would be a good
26:39>> Okay. Um Jameson Williams.
26:45>> I would
26:46>> any Bears wide receiver.
26:48>> Any Bears? Oh. Uh yeah. Um
26:50>> K Raymond.
26:51>> I think both Bears. No, not Khalif
26:53Raymond.
26:53>> I don't think so.
26:55>> And these are tricky too because it kind
26:57of depends on your situation, but like a
26:58Terry McLaren as well, I think is
27:00interesting. Like I would lean McLaren.
27:02The hard part with it being a sell high
27:03for me is that you're selling high at a
27:05position that always has value in
27:08fantasy football.
27:09>> That's why I think you can upgrade is
27:10that like I think if you prefer an achan
27:12or a Bucky Irving for example, who I
27:13just think is more talented at this
27:15stage of his career than David
27:16Montgomery. If you feel in your
27:18estimation that
27:19>> for the next based off what you saw in
27:21week one and what you thought of the
27:22player coming into the season that
27:23Travis Han is a better bet than David
27:26Montgomery, I'd make that offer right
27:28now. What is it that so as a part of
27:30this because I know you're not saying
27:30that Dave Montgomery isn't good at
27:32football,
27:33>> but if you're selling high on him, it's
27:35because you don't think he's going to
27:36deliver x amount of value for your team
27:38for the rest of the season. Do you?
27:39>> No, I think it's that there's somebody
27:40else that can deliver more value. That's
27:42the point is that like I think I'm
27:43upgrading. If you think you are
27:45upgrading because I think people after
27:47week one, if you offered them David
27:49Montgomery for their Travis Achan, I
27:51think there are people that would be
27:52like give me that, right? And I I
27:54express some of my concerns with Achan
27:56on Monday with just the snapshare. But
27:58if you think that David Montgomery is
27:59going to be an inferior player to Han
28:01for the rest of the season, then I would
28:03make that offer right now.
28:04>> Imagine though if you drafted Diva David
28:06Montgomery in the seventh round or
28:07eighth round to be your third running
28:09back. And then you're like, great, this
28:11is exactly what I wanted. I have a third
28:12running back I can count on the entire
28:14season. I don't have to worry about any
28:15of this stuff.
28:16>> That's fine. But what if your third
28:18running back was a better running back
28:19is the point I'm trying
28:20>> Yeah. Exactly. Right. he go and if he
28:22goes 14 for 48 with no touchdowns and
28:24one catch for eight yards this week then
28:26that's gone like you now he's right back
28:27to a man like is this a guy a flex and
28:30that's very possible again like you had
28:32a big role from Marks but Marks also had
28:34more of the passing game work in this
28:36game I mean 2021 was the last time
28:38Montgomery had more than 36 catches in a
28:39season like I don't and based on how
28:41they were using week one I don't see him
28:43expanding on that like he's not going to
28:45really make up ground in the passing
28:46game you're really dependent on heavy
28:48rushing volume and rushing touchdowns
28:50and that's scary. I mean, he's not David
28:51M or he's not uh Dererick Henry. You
28:53know,
28:54>> he is David Montgomery.
28:55>> Montgomery. Is this David Montgomery?
28:56Just like if I told you player after
28:58week one to just have an overreaction
29:00conversation to be honest with how is
29:02like if I told you over like blindly
29:05like, hey, this guy got 20 rushing
29:07attempts, but also averaged three yards
29:10per carry and also played 50% of the
29:14snaps and also probably you got at least
29:17two goal line carries. Like there might
29:19be some people that deem the 50% of the
29:22snaps and the three yards per carry
29:25>> not enough.
29:26>> More valuable in terms of things that
29:28could stay over time than the 20 carries
29:30is what I would say.
29:31>> Understood.
29:32>> We'll see how it works. We have him as
29:34RB2 here in week two. We'll see more
29:35about David Montgomery as we move on
29:37field. Do you got a running back you
29:38want to talk about?
29:38>> By the way, I feel bad for Monty. Like I
29:40have this we play in this dynasty league
29:42where two years ago I won and I had have
29:46a very veteran team and it was like all
29:47my good veterans that year was like I do
29:49have Lamar but Lamar De Henry Monty
29:52Saquon this is the Saquon brilliant year
29:54with 2,000 yards um James Connor was
29:57still hanging around Debo Travis Kelce
29:59George KD so I'm very old and I was not
30:01I was like you know eighth out of 12
30:03last year everybody kind of cratered um
30:05and then week one all my old guys were
30:07good at you Derk Henry was good
30:08>> crushing it again And I I had an
30:10absolutely ridiculous week one and David
30:12Montgomery is part of that team and I'm
30:14so I'm like super invested in Monty to
30:16be great. I just am nervous. Like if you
30:17guys again if you want to offer me Jamar
30:19Chase in Dynasty, I will take him.
30:21>> I have Jack Bash. I mean he's scored in
30:23week one.
30:24>> Listen, do not write that kid off yet.
30:27>> All right. Um I mentioned my theme is
30:29like you did it in week one, let's see
30:30you do it again in week two and it would
30:31mean more.
Ashton Jeanty
30:32>> Ashton Jenty did it many times in week
30:35one. He was awesome. Right. And it was
30:36like the vision we were looking for and
30:38I continue to go back to like so
30:40encouraged by the scheme, the
30:42innovation. It was such a 180 from where
30:44they were last year. It was have a
30:46Ferrari, let it drive on the highway as
30:48opposed to have a Ferrari and let it
30:49drive through, you know, quicksand in
30:51your backyard like last year, right? Um
30:53he had 16 carry six, not carry, 16
30:56touches that gained at least five yards.
30:59He was explosive. Importantly, he played
31:0273.1% of the snaps, which is lower than
31:04where he was at last year. He was at
31:06like 85 in a lot of weeks. It was
31:08ridiculous.
31:09>> But it was still fifth amongst running
31:11elite to be at 73% or higher. So love
31:15the role, love the explosiveness, love
31:17the creativity, obviously love the
31:18talent, love the toughness, love the
31:20fact that this guy
31:21>> players were circling around him in
31:23prayer like three weeks ago and we
31:25people were were fading him in drafts
31:27for 48 hours. Sheffy tells us he's all
31:29good and he has a monster week one.
31:31>> That's great.
31:32>> The rubber meets the road a little bit
31:33on Sunday though. Uh the Cardinals backs
31:35were actually fine against the Chargers,
31:37but I think we would all agree as Mike
31:38mentioned with Brock Pery facing the
31:40Dolphins uh this week that the that
31:42Dolphins defense is so bad that you have
31:44to account for that a little bit. Ashen
31:47Jenty could still have a really
31:48effective game this weekend and go for
31:5015 fantasy points. If he goes for 22,
31:52then we're like, "All right, do we have
31:54a new member of that elite tier of
31:56running backs, right? Right. The Jir
31:57Gibbs, Bejian Robinson's, Jonathan
31:59Taylor, Christian McAffrey. Maybe it's
32:01those guys and then Ashen Genty is
32:04sneaking up right behind him.
32:05>> I would get somebody there. No,
32:07>> I would only push back a little bit by
32:08saying that I would trust it more
32:10depending on what he does in this one.
32:12>> Okay.
32:13>> Once we see Brock Bowers out there in
32:15that offense, if he gets another five or
32:16six receptions in this game, I'd be
32:18like, great. This is the passing game
32:19work that we want. But we need the
32:21number one tight end in football to be
32:22out there also to know what's actually
32:24going to look like when he's out there.
32:25So, it's just a little bit of a push
32:26back.
32:27>> I think he's safe to be in that three to
32:28five target range, which is fine. If
32:30he's going to handle most of the
32:32carries, I mean, I think our hesitation,
32:33if he's
32:35>> even if he wasn't hurt, if he was
32:36healthy, our hesitation was all the Mike
32:37Washington hype, like is he actually
32:39going to steal enough to
32:40>> kind of hold back his fantasy value? If
32:42week one's an indication, the answer is
32:43no. I the other thing I would say is
32:46that um it's not just the number of
32:48targets he gets, it's the like the
32:50utilization of those targets. Last year
32:52he saw a ton of work obviously in the
32:54passing game. So much of Ashton Genty in
32:56the passing game last year was Mike's
32:57guy Gino Smith being under duress and
32:59just dumping it, you know, one yard
33:01behind the line of scrimmage and six
33:04catches for I feel like there was a game
33:05last year where he had six catches for
33:06seven yards. And you're like, "All
33:08right, well, you got the six fantasy
33:09points, but you didn't get the seven
33:11fantasy points because he had seven
33:13receiving yards."
33:14>> Yeah, that's a tough one. They did
33:15address the offensive line obviously
33:16signing Tyler Lindbomb there and I do
33:18think Kurt Cousins is great as far as
33:21you know for his value right now early
33:22in the season. So all right let's talk
33:23about some wide receivers my friends.
33:25Wide receivers here in week two.
33:27>> Puka leading off at wide receiver one
33:29with Aman Raw JSN Jamar Chase CD Lamb
33:32Justin Jefferson Chris Olive Nico
33:34Collins Rashi Rice and Z Flowers
33:37rounding out the top 10 11 through 20.
33:39George Pickkins Garrett Wilson Drake
33:41London Lad Makoni. We'll get some more
33:43information on
33:44>> Malik Neighbors, Dvont Smith, DJ Moore,
33:46Amecha Ibuka, Devonte Adams, and Tedoroa
33:50McMillan, the number two wide receiver
33:52in Carolina. Rounding out the top 20
33:54wide receivers there, guys.
33:56>> Good stuff. There are a couple names
33:57that we're not going to discuss that
33:58really stand out to me. Drake London
34:00will be a great conversation tomorrow,
34:02but Mike,
34:03>> I'm still not sure what to make of the
34:05quarterback situation there. So, yeah,
34:06we'll keep an eye on that. Uh, the guy
Malik Nabers
34:07I'm highlighting is a guy I think you're
34:09all a little too low on, Malik
34:10Neighbors. you look the part in week
34:12one. I'm a wide receiver 11. You guys
34:15are down closer, the consensus at least
34:17at 15.
34:18>> I mean, for a guy who didn't know until
34:21that day he was going to play in the
34:22game, who missed so much of the off
34:23seasonason, who barely played last year
34:25with a new coach, a new play caller,
34:27essentially a new quarterback, more
34:28competition for targets, just nine
34:30targets, six catches, 69 yards, and and
34:32didn't find the end zone, but uh he
34:34looked really good. Uh also, he only
34:36played 53% of the snaps and still
34:38delivered at that level. Uh the good
34:40news is in terms of playing time, first
34:42of all, it's only going to increase. But
34:44he was out there when they threw the
34:45ball and they threw it to him a lot. He
34:47was his route participation was 77% his
34:50target share 31% and here it is. I think
34:53it's the debut for this year.
34:55>> The first area yard stat FOR FIELD.
34:58>> YEAH.
34:58>> YES.
34:59>> LET'S DO IT.
35:00>> LOVE IT. ALL RIGHT. 40% of the area
35:02yards for Malik Neighbors in this game.
35:05Now they play the Rams. They're going to
35:06LA. The Rams just allowed touchdowns,
35:08too. Not one, not two, but three 49ers
35:11receivers. Evans Debo and Demarcus
35:13Robinson all found the end zone. They
35:16allowed the fourth most fantasy points
35:17to that position in week one. So, right
35:19now, we're not really afraid of that
35:21situation. I'm I'm right back in on
35:22Malik Neighbors. Good to go. Can I push
35:24back on one thing,
35:25>> please? Um Malik Neighbors is what year
35:27of his career?
35:28>> He is year three. Okay. This is year
35:31three, but uh week one showed us that
35:33the Rams are specifically vulnerable
35:36>> Yes. to guys that are eligible for
35:38social security.
35:41I appreciate you taking the baton and
35:42making fun of old players now. Like I
35:44don't have to do it. You with McCaffrey
35:46all offseason, now you with the
35:47receiver.
35:47>> I'm just a little concerned that the uh
35:49>> I could be the optimist around here once
35:50in a while.
35:51>> Love that. He looked great in week one.
35:52Hopefully we continue to get that from
35:54that entire Giants.
35:55>> I just love that he was clearly featured
35:57right out of the gate. There wasn't any
35:59hesitation when he was on the field.
36:00They threw him the ball a ton. Jackson
36:02Dart looked awesome. A lot of optimism.
36:04>> They have a ton of things to prove. It's
36:06just one week, but maybe the offensive
36:09coordinator who faced the most questions
36:11this off season, Matt Naggie was
36:14excellent. Excellent in week one.
36:15>> That was a statement game. They looked
36:17>> definitely they look great. Yep.
36:18>> Love that. Six catches on nine targets
36:20for 69 yards
36:22>> on 53% of the snaps.
36:24>> Yeah,
36:24>> that's impressive.
36:25>> Yeah. Uh let's talk DJ Moore. I know
36:26we're going to talk about him a little
36:27bit more tomorrow, but I just want to
36:28really quickly say this. DJ Moore in a
DJ Moore
36:30great spot after not really feeling like
36:31a wide receiver to last week because of
36:33the Houston Texans game. This is where
36:35we're really going to see what we think
36:36DJ Moore and Josh Allen will probably
36:38look like more often than not, even
36:39though they looked great against the
36:40Texans. I think we all kind of agreed
36:43maybe they got a a couple of nice things
36:45gifted their way from the football gods
36:47every gone right I would say for in that
36:50one. Uh yeah, sometimes
36:51>> that doesn't mean I wasn't right, but it
36:52doesn't mean that the variance went
36:54right that way.
36:54>> Yeah, there was a lot of close calls. Um
36:57yeah, that was a wild game to watch. I I
36:59mean, yes, it was
37:00>> that was Josh Allen saying
37:02>> it was, you know, it was kind of like
37:04the opposite of what the Chiefs did. It
37:05was like the Bills went in and were
37:07like, you know what,
37:08>> we struggled against this team. Let's
37:09just go wild and throw it up there,
37:11chuck it down the field. And it worked.
37:13Everything see every single thing seemed
37:15to go their way. And then the Chiefs
37:16were just like, we're going to snap and
37:17throw it immediately and run the ball
37:18and everything's conservative to protect
37:20themselves from a good defense. It was
37:22like the exact opposite. It worked for
37:24both teams, though.
37:24>> Yep. I I can't wait to see what the
37:26Chiefs offense looks like on Sunday
37:27night because for our I know you guys
37:29talked about this yesterday. For our
37:30purposes, we need a whole lot more out
37:31of the passing game.
37:32>> Yes, we are.
37:33>> Oh, yeah. Rashi Rice, I'm sure we'll get
37:35to him over the next couple of days.
37:36Fascinating uh case study.
37:38>> He is perhaps the name that sticks out
37:40the most in our top 10 of
37:42>> Yeah, we'll get there. I'm optimistic,
37:43but we'll get
37:43>> We'll get there. Yep. Um I have a I'm
37:46talk about Zay Flowers in a second. Uh
37:49this game should be on Sunday night,
37:51>> the Lions and the Bills
37:52>> rather than Thursday night football.
37:54>> Yes. I feel and I feel passionately
37:55about this. Uh it's Chiefs Colts on
37:57Sunday night. I understand the Chiefs
37:58couldn't play on Thursday, but they
37:59could play in the afternoon. Somebody
38:01else could play on Thursday. Um would
38:02you guys agree that you know like
38:05probably more Bills fans not living in
38:07Buffalo than you do like a typical fan
38:10base? I I just feel like Bills fans are
38:12so passionate that I've met a lot of
38:13Bills fans not in Buffalo my life.
38:15Right. Yep.
38:16>> This is the opening of their stadium.
38:18There going to be a lot of Bills fans
38:19from out of town that want to get back
38:20to this game and show their support for
38:23their beloved franchise.
38:24>> I don't like that it's on Thursday
38:25night. You got to miss two days of work,
38:28right? Like not that taking Monday off
38:30from work is ideal for everybody, but uh
38:32it is a holiday. Um a Jewish holiday I
38:34believe on Monday. I believe it's Yum
38:36Kapoor. My So I know my kids are off
38:39from school as well. So I think there's
38:40a chance that Sunday night you'd have a
38:43lot more fans that could get back that
38:44this opening means so much to them.
38:46>> You know what I like about this? This is
38:48fuel thinking about the people. It's not
38:49about the NFL. It's not about us. It's
38:50like, you know what? They're going to
38:52open a stadium. This should be a bigger
38:53thing. We should have like leaned into
38:54this more.
38:55>> It's a hu this the Bills old stadium.
38:57I'm so old, right? I mean, obviously, it
38:59was it was time for a change there.
39:01Huge. I don't know. Mike's the age guy.
39:04>> Older.
39:04>> It was so old. How old field?
39:06>> You're so old. You're
39:08>> stadium is falling apart.
39:11>> Thought you do like a yo mama joke right
39:12there.
39:12>> I was I was thinking about it, but then
39:14I just
39:15>> um Anyway,
39:16>> sorry guys. I apologize for this.
39:17>> Yeah, I want the Bills to open their
39:18stadium on Sunday night, not Thursday
39:20night.
39:20>> Yeah, fair enough. Although, let's be
39:22honest, it's going to be packed. It's
39:24going to be wild. It's going to be a
39:25scene.
39:26>> It's going to be a great atmosphere. But
39:28if you have a friend, we live in
39:29Connecticut. If you have a friend who
39:30lives in Connecticut,
39:32>> taking off two days of work is a
39:33material change from potentially zero
39:35days off from work. All right, you're
39:36not wrong. Wide receivers,
39:39>> Z Flowers,
39:40>> would you guys agree that a 46.2% target
39:42share is good or no?
39:43>> 46.2%.
39:45I mean, you know me, I would say
39:46unsustainable, but
39:48>> but good, right?
39:49>> Because before Z Flowers got hurt, he
Zay Flowers
39:52had a 46.2% target share.
39:54>> Wow.
39:54>> He had six of the team's 13 targets
39:56before exiting. He had 150 receiving
39:59yards in the first half. That's the most
40:01in any half by any player
40:04>> playing with Lamar Jackson as his
40:06quarterback. sample size is tiny, but if
40:09that was the beginning of what we're
40:10going to see from this Ravens offense
40:12this year, my god, Z Flowers is going to
40:15absolutely mash. It was creative. Yep.
40:18It was different. It was highlighting
40:20his capabilities, giving him
40:22opportunities to run after the catch. He
40:24was zigzagging through guys. He looks
40:26like, you know, like a frog hopping
40:28through traffic, right? He is
40:29unbelievable as a Flowers with his
40:31ability to make guys miss. The guy is
40:33flat out ridiculous. 46.2 2% sure it's
40:37unsustainable. But for Zay Flowers, if
40:39the number hovers around 30%. With his
40:42skill set and Lamar and how high Octane
40:45that offense could be, Zay Flowers could
40:47be way higher than where he was coming
40:50into the season being drafted as
40:51>> Yeah, we've always worried about the
40:54volume ceiling for pass catchers in a
40:56Lamar Jackson le offense because it's
40:57just so oriented on Lamar adding value
40:59with his legs and you know the defense
41:02good Henry. But right now, if you look
41:04at the offensive situation, you're like,
41:06"Okay, Dererick Henry's running the
41:07football a ton." You have Lamar in the
41:09back field, of course. But in terms of
41:10the passing game, it's Z and question
41:13marks. I mean, Jacobe Lane, they thought
41:15they had something there. He's hurt.
41:16He's going to be out probably about a
41:18month. Rashad Baitman not doing
41:20anything.
41:20>> Could be suspended as well.
41:22>> Yeah, could be suspended. Mark Andrews
41:23isn't old Mark Andrews. I mean, Isaiah
41:26likely, I mean, I know he didn't do a
41:28lot consistently in that offense, but
41:29he's gone. I mean, there's really
41:31nothing there. So 30% target share for Z
41:33Flowers certainly seems on the table
41:35right now.
41:36>> If you get 30% from Z Flowers, he would
41:38be hovering around wide receiver 10 each
41:40and every week.
41:41>> Yeah, if not higher. Yeah, I love that.
Mailbag questions from the live chat
41:43>> Awesome.
41:43>> Let's take a few questions from chat
41:45before we move on here. This first one
41:46comes from realer.
41:50>> No,
41:51>> realer and Rick.
41:52>> Oh, realer and Rick. Sorry. You know, I
41:54got to I get nervous ever since I've
41:56been fooled that one time, guys.
41:57>> Drake May very very sneaky. Drake May
42:00versus Kyle Pittz or Momes. Sorry,
42:03versus Pittsburgh. Sorry. [laughter]
42:06>> Drake May versus Pittsburgh or Mahomes
42:08versus Indie.
42:09>> I would go Drake May versus the
42:11Steelers. [laughter] I know you guys
42:12talked about it yesterday, so I just
42:14will offer that like the Chiefs curb
42:16stomped the Broncos. Patrick Mahomes so
42:20>> impressive. He's fearless. He's a threat
42:22with his legs. Yes, they were being
42:24ultra-conservative.
42:26I still want to see the Chiefs offense
42:28actually test teams down the field a
42:30little.
42:30>> All right, I'm going I'm going Mahomes.
42:32Not afraid of the Colts defense. Mahomes
42:35is
42:35>> they're at home again, right? My Yeah,
42:37they're at home again
42:39football.
42:39>> Yeah.
42:39>> Oh, yeah. You just said that. Yeah. So,
42:41um I'm I'm going to go with him over May
42:42in a tough match up. And he's another
42:44one we're going to we'll get to this. I
42:45mean, we have we have quarterbacks with
42:46tough matchups again. Joe Burrow is
42:48another conversation him going up
42:50against or going into Houston. We know
42:51what happening against.
42:52>> I would take Drake Maymay.
42:54>> You're going May as well. All right.
42:55I'm going I'm on an island here.
42:58>> Next one we have, this one comes from
43:00Aaron Reynolds. Do you think stribbling
43:01or gain well are droppable now given
43:04what's been happening?
43:05>> Um I I have a pretty strong feeling on
43:07this one. I think stribbling if you
43:08don't want to put him on IR is
43:09absolutely droppable. You don't have an
43:11IR. Uh you know I think even when he
43:13comes back it might be a while with Debo
43:15kind of looking looking good. And also
43:17George KD's ready to roll. Mike Evans. I
43:19mean there's a lot of guys there. Um and
43:21game lights I'd hold on to. I mean, if
43:22you're in a shallower league, maybe, but
43:24I would hold tight. I think that uh
43:26he'll find his way to relevance.
43:27>> I agree there. That money speaks to me
43:29from this off seasonason. Two years, $14
43:31million for Kenny G. Um a reminder, and
43:33I don't the scribbling has not been
43:35placed on IR, but if he is, a reminder
43:38because sometimes the fact that you have
43:40to miss four games creates the
43:42impression that a player is going to
43:44miss four games, right?
43:45>> Miles Garrett, this is a good case
43:47because Shawn McVey was like, I don't
43:48have a timeline on Miles Garrett. going
43:50to be at least four games before he
43:51returns. Not that he matters in fantasy,
43:53but a high-profile name to kind of make
43:55this point. So, shribbling, I think the
43:57reporting was around a month for this
43:59ankle injury, but it's an ankle for a
44:01wide receiver.
44:02>> They're cooking. They're cooking through
44:04one game after,
44:06>> you know, with the veterans. So,
44:07>> yeah, we'll keep an eye on him ascend
44:10over the next month.
44:10>> Yeah. And I think struggling maybe
44:12around mid-season, maybe starts to
44:14become a guy that gets
44:16>> back to fantasy relevance. We'll kind of
44:18see how things go with like Evans Debo.
44:20Again, it is an older offense, but he's
44:21a guy that still could be a league
44:22winner, but it's just not anytime soon.
44:24>> I could see him making noise still at
44:26some point this season. The question is,
44:27like you guys had just said,
44:29>> do you need to keep someone else on IR
44:31over him? Or if you already have someone
44:32on IR, are you willing to just, you
44:34know, burn a bench spot so that you can
44:36get
44:36>> How desperate are you to make that move,
44:38right? Like if it's
44:39>> But that doesn't mean he won't have
44:40potential value at some point later on
44:42the season. I just think you can hold on
44:43to it. I totally understand dropping.
44:45All right, a couple more questions here.
44:47Red Pants Brigade says, "Y'all got to
44:50get three dragon brothers. Stop and Clay
44:52get the normal dragons and field gets
44:54the derpy one."
44:55>> Yes,
44:56>> that's hilarious.
44:56>> I love it.
44:57>> That's that one meme. Oh god.
44:58>> Yes, I'm in on that. Tommy Parker says,
45:00"I want Mike Clay to know that my team,
45:02he gave a D-grade, scored 204.4
45:06points and a half point PPR 12 team
45:09league.
45:11>> Standing on business."
45:12>> I feel so bad for Mike in this regard.
45:13Uh yeah, I don't
45:15>> life does not give the
45:16>> I don't even know how they calculate
45:17them to be completely honest, but it's
45:19only week one.
45:21>> Hey, there you go.
45:22>> We'll see. You know, I don't I don't
45:23want to, you know, we don't pat
45:24ourselves on the back after week one
45:26either way because there's a long way to
45:27go. Things could flip in a hurry.
45:29>> That's fair.
45:30>> You notice I've been very quiet about uh
45:32the Chargers offense struggling. We'll
45:34we'll see. We'll let it see what happens
45:36there.
45:36>> All right, let's talk about some tight
45:38ends, my friend. Tight ends here in week
45:40two. Top 10 for the for week two here.
45:43Trey McBride obviously tight end one.
45:45Coloulston Lovelin in spite of scoring
45:47zero points in week one still tight end
45:49two here. Tyler Warren tight end three.
45:50Sam Leaporta and Brock Bowers. Bowers at
45:53five because there is an uncertainty
45:55around the injury who do not have him
45:57ranked. Is that what it is?
45:58>> Yeah, that's why it's a weighted average
46:00and he is not ranked by at least one
46:01person. So,
46:02>> okay, got it. That would do that.
46:03>> When you get him not ranked, you
46:04basically get a zero in your score. like
46:07you get, you know, 26 is your calculated
46:09average as opposed to
46:10>> one through 25.
46:11>> Dallas Gddard at tight end six, Isaiah
46:13likely, Tucker Craft, Travis Kelce, and
46:15then Kyle Pittz. Also, two tight ends
46:17that scored zero points in week one are
46:19inside our top 10 here for week two.
46:21>> That's I think that's more of a
46:23reflection [laughter] of how bad the
46:24position is than anything else.
46:25>> Yeah, we will. Um yeah, we'll keep an
46:28eye on the Falcons based on who the
46:29quarterback is. Right now it it assumes
46:31Penn, but I'm like, as we talked about
46:33yesterday, Daniel, like a little more
46:35pessimistic than I was a couple days ago
46:36that it'll be him, but we'll see.
46:37>> When you say it assumes, are you talking
46:39about Clay?
46:40>> The projections.
46:40>> Clay eye. Yes.
46:42>> Come on there, baby.
46:44>> Clay eye has panics in there for now,
46:46but again, it's just so much uncertainty
46:47right now.
46:48>> All right, go ahead. Why don't you give
46:48us a tight end Mike that you're talking
46:50want to talk about?
46:50>> Yeah. Uh Tucker Craft, I think, is an
Tucker Kraft
46:52interesting one. uh played 66% of the
46:55snaps and you know he said you know he
46:58said a couple weeks ago he'll be limited
47:00for the first half of the season. Then
47:01leading into the game he said he won't
47:02be limited. Y
47:03>> he was limited.
47:04>> He was limited.
47:04>> He's played at 87% of the snaps over the
47:07last two seasons. He was at 66 in this
47:09game.
47:09>> He's run his route participation 73% the
47:12last two seasons. He was at 46% in this
47:15game. Now he did have a handful of long
47:17catches but he only had six targets
47:19three catches in the game for 65 yards.
47:21Only a 15% target share. Again, you
47:23would expect him to be hopefully closer
47:24to 19 to 21% if he's going to sustain
47:27for title one. Yeah, he certainly that
47:29helped uh for sure. Uh but I think it's
47:32a point in the right direction at least.
47:34At least he was making explosive plays.
47:35That was my concern coming off the ACL.
47:37So that's enough for me to put him back
47:39into the top 10. So on the back end, I'm
47:41still worried about some bus games
47:43shortterm. Remember I told you last year
47:45he generally hung around five or six
47:47targets per game. He just had those
47:50inflated numbers and really good
47:51matchups down the stretch last year
47:53which really boosted his efficiency in
47:55his numbers. So again, we're we're
47:56getting there with Craft, but I'm not
47:58overreacting just yet. For now, kind of
48:00a fringe backend tight end one.
48:02>> I'm in on any of the pass catchers right
48:04now because I feel like that running
48:05game in Green Bay is just atrocious.
48:07>> I am a little surprised. Um
48:10there is like a lot of anger right now
48:13in Green Bay.
48:14>> Yeah,
48:14>> people like want to burn the place down.
48:16That's the people aren't happy.
48:18>> They are not happy. And I understand
48:20like there was some question about
48:21whether Matt Laflur would be retained
48:23this off seasonason. There seemed to be
48:24like a moment there where it wasn't
48:26clear,
48:27>> but he was extended and there already
48:28people that are like our coach is the
48:30problem. We got sometimes on um I'll see
48:32polls on on Twitter and I'll I will vote
48:35just to see what the masses are saying,
48:37right? And there was one where it was
48:39like who's most to blame for the
48:40Chargers and I think it was like the
48:42coach like Matt Laflur the running game
48:45>> of love probably
48:46>> or other. And I if there's an other I
48:48always vote other just so I don't feel
48:49bad. Uh and it was like
48:52>> heavily in favor of Matt Lefor being the
48:55biggest problem. Anyway, that's an
48:56aside. I'm just surprised by how much
48:58anxiety there is right now in Green Bay.
49:00>> That's wild. That's wild. I feel like
49:01he's one of the coaches that gets a lot
49:02out of his team. So that's kind of
49:03surprising to hear. So and again six
49:06straight games going back to last season
49:07which is
49:08>> Yeah, that's not great.
49:09>> That is that is definitely
Isaiah Likely
49:10>> got a lot of angst there. Not a lot of
49:12angst in New York right now. Isaiah
49:14likely smashed. Yeah, the dude was
49:16unbelievable. Eight for 78 on eight
49:18targets plus he had two Tutties for 27.8
49:21fantasy points. We've seen him do this
49:23before actually in week one before and
49:26then specifically disappear for the rest
49:28of the season. Difference is I do
49:29believe this is more sustainable. Not
49:3127.8 eight, but his tight end one
49:33sustainability is more sustainable now
49:35that he is in this offense. Free of Mark
49:38Andrews, he clearly looked like the
49:40number two pass catcher here. Him and
49:41Jackson Dart looked great. Again, not
49:43expecting two touchdowns every week, but
49:45if even if he's getting eight targets a
49:46game, seven, eight targets, he's going
49:48to get enough volume to be a tight end
49:49one for us. Isaiah likely inside my top
49:53five at the position here in week two.
49:55>> Yeah, I just feel pretty good about his
49:57situation. Should be the number two.
49:59Yep. Yeah, I think he's the guy I was
50:01after week one I was like, "God, I
50:02should have been higher on him."
50:03>> Yeah.
50:03>> Um kicking myself a little.
50:04>> You are so high but not high enough.
50:06>> Uh last one for me is Sam Leaporta. Snap
Sam Laporta
50:09share of 81% which was eighth best
50:11amongst tight ends in week one. That's
50:13good. Eight targets also good more than
50:15anything. And we'll talk about this game
50:16as I'll save some of this. Like
50:18>> what's the overunder on in this game?
50:20>> High a lot.
50:21>> It's a lot, right?
50:22>> Uh oh yeah,
50:23>> tomorrow night. So definitely
50:24>> we want as much of the Lions in the
50:26Bills game that we can get, which means
50:28it will be a 13 to 10
50:30>> pitchers duel. We No, we got that.
50:32>> We got that nonsense out of the way in
50:34week one.
50:34>> Yeah, that's true. What's the over
50:35under, Daniel?
50:36>> Uh the overunder right now looks like I
50:40am not 54 and a half.
50:42>> 54 and a half. I believe the week one
50:43high was 50 and a half.
50:45>> So 54 and a half. And I'm going to guess
50:47the Bills are probably what? Four and a
50:49half point favorites here. Five.
50:50>> Five and a half point favorites.
50:51>> Five and a half point favorites. I asked
50:53our and we'll do this tomorrow like I
50:54said, but I asked our production team to
50:55put together a quick graphic of what it
50:57looked like the last time these two
50:58teams played. In case you don't
51:00remember, we will talk about it
51:01tomorrow. We'll save that for
51:02>> thermonuclear Josh Allen.
51:04>> It was a fun game.
51:04>> Yes. So, Sam Leaporta, a guy that I was
51:07encouraged by the 81% for him more so
51:11than a typical tight end just because of
51:13the back injury and the hip injury that
51:15lingered during the preseason.
51:16>> Let's do a couple of bonus guys here. We
51:18were still in even though we lowered him
51:20a little bit on week one on Josh Allen
Joe Burrow
51:22taking on the Texans. Mike, how much are
51:23you lowering Joe Burrow because of the
51:25Texans?
51:26>> Seems like we are consensus wise to him
51:27at QB14. And maybe we can expand on this
51:29when we do uh our matchup for this game
51:32on Thursday or Friday. But uh yeah,
51:34look, Burrow week one was fine. 25 of
51:3635, 254 yards, a touchdown, a pick, had
51:3820 rushing yards. But that was against
51:40the Buccaneers. Now he goes to Houston.
51:42And look, I know Houston got crushed by
51:44Josh Allen, but again, this is still an
51:47elite defense on paper. No quarterback
51:49even got to 21 against them all of last
51:51season. I think it's kind of a fluke. It
51:52happens sometimes for great defenses. Uh
51:55I I worry about Burrow not being able to
51:58just make up the make up the ground with
52:00the high varian play. So for me, I'm
52:01going to,
52:02>> you know, I'm I'm a little hesitant on
52:04Burrow this week. I would prefer to
52:05stream.
52:06>> Yeah, you can't. This is totally unfair
52:08to Josh Allen, but if you're making the
52:10case why the Texans defense is better
52:11than it looked like in week one, Josh
52:13had a 20 yard touchdown run when for
52:16some reason Houston went cover zero in
52:18the red zone, which allows Josh to run,
52:20right?
52:21>> There was another rushing touchdown,
52:23which Joe is far less likely than Josh
52:25to run for a touchdown. And last, and I
52:28know Mike kind of referenced this
52:29earlier with DJ Moore, there is this
52:31play where it's like DJ Moore makes a
52:33catch,
52:33>> I don't know what, 15 yards down the
52:36sideline and then next thing you know,
52:37he piouetses and there's nobody within
52:4040 yards of
52:40>> it. And the defender was this close from
52:42tipping it away. Also,
52:43>> got actually Bill's PR calling in. They
52:45want to have a quick conversation guys
52:46about the disrespect for
52:48>> how about the late the late touchdown
52:49where he threw it
52:51>> to uhwami lacer right like this like me
52:53to you right in his hands
52:54>> and lasser drops it and they score in
52:56the next play like everything went their
52:58way
52:58>> there a point that I make is this and
53:00some of the things that went in the
53:01favor of Joe Bur of Josh Allen Joe is
53:04far less likely to execute himself right
53:06>> we all agree
53:07>> but we'll keep it in the uh the Buffalo
53:09vein is uh I wanted to make Dalton
53:12Concade a top 10 tight end this week or
53:14at least close to it. Um because he
Dalton Kincaid
53:16played great in week one. 77% target
53:19share, sorry, snap share for Dalton
53:22Concade. Um
53:24>> he was hurt last year. 55% was a a mark
53:28he never met in 2025.
53:30>> So the fact that he was at 77% in week
53:32one, a sign of how healthy he is
53:34compared to where he's been in prior
53:36years. He had three catches of 35 yards
53:39or more. Not expecting that every week
53:41given the fact that he's had two of
53:43those in his entire career, but there
53:45were three 35 plus yard catches by every
53:48other tight end in the league.
53:49Hilariously, of course, one of them was
53:50Travis Kelce when the C's parted on
53:52Monday night. He had that big 50-yard.
53:55Um, but I think that Doulson Concade
53:57maybe finally possibly can reach that
53:59post hype potential.
54:01>> Yeah, you almost said word for word what
54:03the playbook write up is going to be for
54:04me about this game. Uh Dolan Concincaid.
54:07I'm optimistic. In fact, I added him in
54:09our FFC league on waiverss. I was
54:11surprised I got him. I bet there would
54:12be a little more optimism. It was I
54:14couldn't decide in him or Debo to to
54:15prioritize. I have a good tight end. I
54:17can't remember who it is off the top of
54:19my head, but Tyler Warren. I have Tyler
54:20Warren, but I had to get Concaid. I feel
54:22like the playing time,
54:24>> yeah,
54:24>> is a huge change from last year that
54:27could unlock him. Remember, this is a
54:29former first round pick and he's flashed
54:30at times. It's just never been
54:32consistent. if he keeps playing that
54:33much and is healthy, you know, the
54:35ceiling is so high. So, make sure if
54:37he's still available in your league, you
54:38get him. Yeah.
54:39>> All right, let's rank for Let's Oh, no.
54:40You have one
54:41>> one more. Mike Evans.
54:42>> I think this might be the player that I
54:44have because of what has happened
Mike Evans
54:46changed my mind on the most after week
54:48one. Mike Evans, I think, is going to
54:50now, especially with Deshan Stribbling
54:52being out for a month and what he did in
54:54week one against the Rams. Six for 49
54:56and a touchdown on seven targets, 16.9
54:58fantasy points. I have him as a low-end
55:00wide receiver, too. I am cranking it up.
55:02Yep, we are in on my
55:03>> turning back the clock is what I mean.
55:04>> Oh, that's what you're doing. I thought
55:05we were cranking up Mike Evans.
55:06>> Also crank up Mike Evans. You can turn
55:08it back.
55:08>> Turn back the clock. I guess it depends
55:09on which way you twist it.
55:10>> Counterclockwise. We're turning it back.
55:12Cranking it up. Turning it counter
55:14regular.
55:14>> I I'm with you in the short term.
55:15>> In the short term, he has because I was
55:17looking at him more as a wide receiver
55:19four. Uh wide receiver, low end wide
55:20receiver three, high end wide receiver
55:22four. But now with this situation and
55:23the way he looked, especially this week
55:25against Miami, guys, like he's he's
55:26going to crush here. And he gets Arizona
55:28next week. Two really good games in a
55:30row for Mike Evans.
55:31>> All right,
55:33let's rank a couple of stupid things,
55:34guys.
Top 3 Sports Movies of all time
55:35>> This is our ranking show. We have to
55:36rank something uh random, too. I mean,
55:38>> we're gonna bring together our top
55:40sports movies, and we would love to know
55:42in chat, what are your favorite top
55:43sports movies? And we want to know
55:46>> what you guys think about our list.
55:47>> That's that's key, right? We, you know,
55:48the Emmys were just on, there's award
55:50shows, like they're like the most you
55:52people studying. What's the It's not
55:54like the objectively best. It's our
55:56favorite, right? That's right. It's our
55:57favorite sports movies.
55:59I don't know if you guys agree with
56:00this, but last week like if you guys
56:03propose one of the names or one of the
56:04places to have a bad emergency bathroom
56:07situation, I was going to pivot. Like my
56:09favorite movies are my favorite movies.
56:11So if we happen to share a pick, like
56:13that's fine by me. Like I will gladly
56:14share a pick with you guys. By the way,
56:16this was hard to
56:17>> This is hard to cut down.
56:18>> Yeah.
56:18>> How many did you do? Three. You did
56:20three.
56:20>> I did top three, but I have probably I
56:22cut it down to like eight. I wish I have
56:24a list, but I
56:25>> I have one honorable mention. Can I Can
56:26we give an honorable mention if everyone
56:27>> if you want to? Yeah, go for it. Yeah.
56:28>> My honorable mention is the only
56:30football movie that's on the list for
56:31me.
56:31>> Wow.
56:32>> And that's a Rudy.
56:33>> Oh, I have Rudy on my honorable mention
56:34list. Yeah,
56:35>> good movie.
56:36>> Did you just
56:37>> What? You
56:39>> Sean Aton.
56:40>> Oh, man. Come on. Rudy's a classic.
56:42>> Seriously, Field.
56:43>> Good. Not the best football movie of
56:45all.
56:45>> Oh, okay. All right. Well, why don't we
56:46start with you? Number three on your
56:48list.
56:48>> Oh, number three. Okay. Um, three is a
56:50curveball here.
56:52>> Almost. It's a hard ball. Do you guys
56:55remember that movie with Kiana Reeves? I
56:57don't know this one. You got to see it.
56:59It's really good. Hard. It's emotional.
57:02Uh Gbab. It's Ker Reeves like takes over
57:05a youth sports team in a city. It's like
57:08it's got all the emotions here. Okay.
57:09There's like some tragedy involved. Re
57:11is an amazing uh great movie. Hardball.
57:14Mike, you got to go watch this.
57:16>> We can watch it.
57:17>> We all love Yeah. I don't want to
57:19>> offseason view. I don't want to give too
57:21much away about the movie, but Hard Ball
57:23Baby, there's a great great soundtrack
57:25with it as well.
57:27>> Awesome movie. Kiana Ree, who's like one
57:29of my favorite actors and one of the
57:30coolest people alive. Hard ball number
57:32three for me.
57:32>> Mike, who's your number three?
57:33>> This was a number three was close. Uh,
57:35one and two pretty much stood out, but I
57:37ended up going with one that I just
57:38remember from childhood that I still
57:40like. Rookie of the year.
57:41>> Oh, good one.
57:42>> Rookie of the year. I just love that
57:43one. I don't know. There's something
57:44about just like the injury
57:45>> butt loving.
57:46>> Yes, exactly. So many good oneliners.
57:48The story line is amazing. Like I just I
57:50love that movie. It's one that reminds
57:51me of childhood. I love it.
57:52>> My number three also reminds me of
57:54childhood and it has the best sports
57:56montage in the history of all sports
57:58montages.
57:59>> It is Rocky 4.
58:01>> Taking on the Russian going on against
58:03Ivon Drago
58:05>> in the height of the Cold War. It was a
58:06very fun Rocky four was my number four
58:08one. I just I realize boxing isn't even
58:09a sport that I enjoy, but that counts as
58:10a sports movie.
58:11>> Of course it does.
58:12>> Yeah. And you could have chose you could
58:13have picked any of the rockets. could
58:14have picked any of them before.
58:15>> I felt I almost felt obligated, but I
58:17had to be true like with with what I
58:19didn't go Rocky and my
58:21>> list. No, no. Right.
58:22>> Guessing my final two will come up on
58:24either of your lists. Number two,
58:26>> remember the Titans.
58:27>> Okay.
58:28>> Amazing movie. Football themed.
58:29Obviously, RIP Hayden Penitenti. Really
58:32sad, huh? Yeah.
58:34>> Um, but just awesome. Great movie. Great
58:36TV show.
58:38>> Actually, not a great TV show. I thought
58:39there's like a I remember like a
58:41documentary on it, but there's a great
58:42movie. I'll tell you that much. All time
58:43great movie.
58:44>> That's great. Yeah, good one.
58:44>> It's a good movie.
58:46>> Am I next? You're next.
58:47>> Uh, mine is Come on, Sandlot.
58:49>> Oh, Sandlot.
58:51>> Sandlot. Speaking of like that July 4th
58:53scene. Like, uh, there's just so much.
58:55>> That's a great one. You know, Wendy,
58:57what's her last name? Peppercorn.
58:58>> Wendy Peppercorn.
58:59>> Peppercorn. Peppercorn. Yeah. Wendy
59:00Peppercorn. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Childhood
59:02crush for sure.
59:03>> Definitely. Yeah.
59:04>> Y.
59:04>> All right. My number two. Number two for
59:07me. Another baseball movie.
59:09>> Oh.
59:10>> How can you not get romantic about
59:12baseball, guys? Field the Dreams.
59:14>> It's Moneyball.
59:15>> Oh, Moneyball. I Moneyball. That was on
59:17my long list. Yeah,
59:18>> Moneyball is so good. I actually think
59:20this might be my favorite Jonah Hill
59:22movie, too. He does such a great job. He
59:24is so good. Him and Brad Pit both are
59:26unbelievable. It's a really fun.
59:27>> I'm surprised you have Moneyball in
59:28there, but I thought about it.
59:29>> I love it. I just think it's a really
59:30fun movie.
59:31>> Good memes. Yeah. Funny. Um, not even
59:33funny.
59:34>> No, there's some good humorous in there.
59:35Yeah, but like obviously more serious
59:38than funny. Yeah. Uh, number one,
59:39Miracle. Duh.
59:40>> Miracle. Do you guys have an American
59:42spirit or no?
59:43>> Wow, that's [laughter] okay. That's
59:44>> Miracle is amazing. Like if I want to
59:46get fired up about something in life, I
59:47just go watch Miracle or just go watch
59:49like any of the scenes.
59:50>> Okay.
59:51>> Miracle is awesome. Yeah.
59:52>> All right. I like that. I like that.
59:54None of Field's movies
59:56>> convinced that these were going to be I
59:58thought Miracle and Remember the Titans
59:59were layups.
59:59>> I knew my number one would not make
1:00:01either of your list. Anyone that knows
1:00:02me well knows where I'm going with this.
1:00:04Is
1:00:04>> Days of Thunder. Days of Thunder 2
1:00:06coming out soon.
1:00:08Yeah. The announced it at Daytona. Uh
1:00:11you've seen Days of Thunder, right?
1:00:12>> Yes. But I didn't know there was Days of
1:00:13Thunder Days of Thunder 2 coming out.
1:00:14Announced it pretty recently. Uh this
1:00:16one is for a lot of reasons. I don't
1:00:18think people know the extent of my
1:00:19relationship with Days of Thunder, but
1:00:21uh 21 straight years we went to the
1:00:24Coca-Cola 600 and that's the home of
1:00:26Hendrickk Motorsports and of NASCAR and
1:00:28where the movie was and where City
1:00:30Chevrolet the dealership is. And we've
1:00:32kind of made it our thing like we always
1:00:34visit the barn from the movie. We've
1:00:36gone to the original City Chevrolet
1:00:37dealership and like we have I have all
1:00:39this merchandise. I have wood from the
1:00:41original barn from the movie. We have
1:00:43every We've met Rick Hendrick and held
1:00:44the movie. We used to take City
1:00:46[clears throat] Chevrolet stuff to the
1:00:47Hendrick Museum and leave it there and
1:00:49stuff. It just became like people knew
1:00:50us thing. So that movie uh really close
1:00:53to my family. It's always been kind of
1:00:55this bit we do every year. So
1:00:56>> who's in it? Who's in Day of Thunder 2?
1:00:58Who's going to be acting in?
1:00:59>> Um it is um
1:00:59>> Tom Cruz is coming back.
1:01:00>> It's uh you knowing on the actress. It's
1:01:04someone very famous and yeah it out. I'm
1:01:07sure there'll be many cameos. Uh, we
1:01:09lost Robert Duval unfortunately this
1:01:10year as well, so he won't be involved.
1:01:12But, uh, yeah. No, Nicole Kimman, I
1:01:14don't think will be in this one.
1:01:15>> I [laughter] don't think so either.
1:01:16>> Every time I see Mike on the road
1:01:18whenever we are driving by each other,
1:01:19he always comes up and hits me just a
1:01:21little bit and then drives past me and
1:01:22just yells out, "Robin's racing,
1:01:24Daniel."
1:01:24>> Yeah, that's always how it works.
1:01:26>> What do you got, Daniel?
1:01:27>> My last one is the best sports movie of
1:01:29all time.
1:01:29>> In your opinion?
1:01:31>> And it is the movie Rounders.
1:01:33>> Oh.
1:01:34>> Yes. [laughter]
1:01:35Okay. kind of a little bit of a like
1:01:37>> we think it's it's it's it's sports.
1:01:39>> Sports. We show it on our air. Poker is
1:01:42a sport. Absolutely.
1:01:44>> Teaching my kids that game.
1:01:45>> 100%. There's a skill involved with it.
1:01:48Unbelievable cast in that. Amazing.
1:01:51[clears throat]
1:01:51>> It's so good. Poker is a sport. If
1:01:53anyone has a problem with poker being a
1:01:54sport, tweet at me, Mike Clay NFL,
1:01:57our people will be mad about racing
1:01:58being called a sport of poker. I think
1:02:00just based on my my life.
1:02:02>> By the way, quick quick ones. I have to
1:02:04mention these Mighty Ducks, Tallaladega
1:02:06Knights, Bull Durham. That there that
1:02:07was the rest of my couple of look, we
1:02:09got something in our chat we want to
1:02:10give some homage to as well really
1:02:12quickly before we get out of here from
1:02:14chat.
1:02:15>> These are some of their favorite sports
1:02:16movies. Yeah, dodgeball has to be one
1:02:18there.
1:02:19>> Dodge, that's an old school one. Got
1:02:21some love for hockey.
1:02:22>> Yeah.
1:02:23>> Radio. Oh, Cuba Gooding Junior, right?
1:02:26>> Yes, of course.
1:02:27>> Yeah, Muddy Ducks. Bad news bears. Of
1:02:29course, that's always a good one. Always
1:02:31love Bad News Bears. Gilmore.
1:02:33>> You didn't even mention Happy Gilmore.
1:02:34Yeah. Sports comedy.
1:02:36>> Uh
1:02:37the hottie shack. By the way, do you
1:02:39guys watch The Hawk? The new show that
1:02:40was
1:02:40>> Bill Murray all time.
1:02:42>> Oh yeah, I thought about that one.
1:02:45>> Oh, Water
1:02:48today Junior.
1:02:48>> Yeah. A couple of good Adam Sandler is
1:02:50good with sports movies actually.
1:02:51>> Some high quality. What was the NBA
1:02:53movie that he did? Uh
1:02:54>> it was Uncut Gems.
1:02:55>> Uncut Gems. That's right.
1:02:57>> Which that movie was wild. Yeah, Kevin
1:02:59was and Anthony Edwards were amazing
1:03:01athletes. By the way, Will Farrell just
1:03:03does every sport. So, he's covered like
1:03:05every single sport. You could just do a
1:03:07blanket over I really enjoyed the
1:03:08hockey.
1:03:09>> What was the What was the figure skating
1:03:10one that he did?
1:03:12>> Glory. Blazy.
1:03:12>> Blaz Glory. There's the basketball ones
1:03:14like the was the AB or the
1:03:17>> uh the Flint Tropics semi-pro.
1:03:19>> Semiro. Yes.
1:03:20>> Tropic. Oh, yes. Tropic Thunder was a
1:03:22different one.
1:03:23>> Ben Stiller Jr.
1:03:25>> There's so many good sports movies. So
1:03:27many good comedies.
1:03:28>> Thanks for hanging out with us, guys.
1:03:29This is a ton of fun. We will be back
Thanks for watching!
1:03:31tomorrow to preview Thursday Night
1:03:32Football and dive into part one of our
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1:03:39yourself. You deserve it. We will see
1:03:41you on Thursday.
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