Time to Bench These Players? + Week 4 Waiver Wire Must-Adds | Fantasy Focus

0:00Fantasy. You're in the 0610

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0:12>> What's good friends? Welcome into

0:14fantasy focus football alongside Michael

0:16Lester Clay Jr. and Field Ministry

0:18Yates. My name is Daniel David Dopp.

0:20Very excited to be here with you guys.

0:22How you doing, Field?

0:23>> You know, I'm feeling a little bit more

0:24aerodynamic myself these days, Daniel.

0:26Yeah, you know, I shaved this morning. I

0:29can see that.

0:30>> Yeah, sort of. Right. Eyes shave. You

0:31know, I'm just

0:32>> like an electric shaver.

0:33>> I've heard that, you know, the less hair

0:34you have on your body, the more

0:35aerodynamic you are.

0:36>> Is that what you hear? Huh?

0:38>> That's what you hear. We'll talk about

0:40that a little bit later on in the show.

0:42We have a lot of stuff to get to in

0:43today's show. Hello, Michael.

0:45>> Oh, hi.

0:46>> We have a lot of stuff to get to in I'm

0:48trying to delete the box from football.

0:50>> Oh, I know. I'm sorry.

0:51>> Can you just delete it and then it goes

0:53away and you don't have to think about

0:54it.

0:54>> It was a wicked football game,

0:56unfortunately. Make it quick cuz I don't

0:58want to talk about it.

0:58>> Yeah, we're going to obviously dive into

0:59the Monday Night Football recap. We also

1:01have our starts of the week. We got to

1:02talk about our long shots to check in

1:04on. We got knockout leagues. We're going

1:05to talk about waiverwire targets in week

1:08four and a very fun segment at the end

1:09of the show called fish or cut bait.

1:11Guys, we're deciding are we going to

1:12keep rolling with? Are we going to cut

1:14them loose to our bench?

1:15>> You you start fishing and suddenly we're

1:17doing fishing segments.

1:18>> I didn't even bring it up. This is all

1:20idea. But I was motivated. I knew that

1:21if I pitched the segment,

1:23>> yes,

1:23>> you would say absolutely I'm doing it.

1:25>> You knew that I would captain it. I'd be

1:26the captain of your idea.

1:27>> I'm the captain now.

1:28>> Okay. All right. Hey, speaking of being

1:30a new captain, let's talk about some

1:32news that we got yesterday, guys. Jameus

1:34Winston still going to be the starting

1:35quarterback of the New York Football

1:37Giants

1:38>> for now. But JJ McCarthy moving over

1:41cost a fifth round draft pick from the

1:43Vikings. Curious how you guys feel if

1:45any change at all with this move and

1:47what it could mean for the Giants pass

1:49catchers moving forward.

1:50>> So, this is a down the line thing as you

1:51just said is going to start.

1:54>> This is deep cut stuff. Y

1:56>> but when you need deep cut stuff who do

1:58you turn to

1:59>> Kyle Zoppy

2:00>> Kyle Zoppy

2:01>> yes

2:01>> he did p he did pass along to me did

2:04Kyle

2:04>> okay

2:05>> that

2:05>> shout out there to Kyle

2:06>> last season when targeting tight ends

2:09>> okay

2:10>> JJ McCarthy had the sixth best passer

2:13rating in the entire NFL

2:15>> TJ Hockinson like wasn't a great factor

2:18last year

2:19>> when looking at the quarterback rating

2:22for players when throwing to running

2:23backs and wide receivers

2:25>> Yep. J.J. McCarthy ranked 33rd, which I

2:28believe was worst. So, if you're looking

2:30for an Isaiah likely case, I just made

2:33it for you.

2:33>> There you go.

2:34>> So, if you're watching, what was on the

2:36screen is that was a really good tweet.

2:38It was uh who's the who's the

2:39quarterback of the

2:41>> Giants and a picture of Isaiah likely

2:43likely nine with his jersey. Likely

2:45nine.

2:45>> I wonder what uniform JJ wears. This

2:47will be the most probably like impactful

2:50uniform number change in quite some

2:52time. Yeah,

2:53>> it's like LeBron when he decided to go

2:54from 23 to six.

2:56>> Yeah, very Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's a huge

2:58one for sure.

2:59>> I'm not sure about that. What? Uh I

3:01mean, if you ask if you ask Vikings fans

3:03before yesterday, it's not a stretch at

3:04all. But now they're just like, "Okay,

3:06good. We don't have to defend this guy

3:07anymore." Uh look, his numbers so far, I

3:09you know, I was looking yesterday, just

3:1110 games with the Vikings, 11

3:12touchdowns, 12 picks. The efficiency

3:14numbers for such a young quarterback

3:16are, you know, poor for an NFL starter,

3:18but like not awful. I mean, not, you

3:21know, uh, 6.7 yards per attempt, 58%

3:23completion percentage. He also ran for

3:26181 yards and four touchdowns in those

3:28games.

3:29Maybe there's hope here. Uh, obviously

3:31it didn't look great last year. Those

3:33numbers are probably a little better

3:34than he looked on uh out there on the

3:36field. So, it's a dart throw by, no pun

3:39intended, by the uh the Giants here. I'm

3:42surprised by it. I thought they'd go

3:44more of a veteran route just because

3:46what happens if he pans out? I mean, I

3:47guess it's good because you could trade

3:49him. Yeah, exactly. You could always

3:50trade him if you if Jackson Dar comes.

3:52Jack Jackson Dar will come back next

3:53year. So, um interesting one for sure,

3:55but I think we're probably just a few

3:57weeks away from from McCarthy being

3:58under

3:59>> guys. You're burying the lead. He was 3

4:01and 0 in his career against the NFC

4:03East.

4:03>> Oh, is that right?

4:04>> Undefeated against the new division he's

4:07going to be playing.

4:08>> The Vikings defense was undefeated

4:09against the

4:10>> Okay. Okay. Okay. It is amazing. Three

4:13and0 right now.

4:14>> Quick thing to say really fast just

4:15because this is going to be the waiver

4:16show. Is there any reason or any league

4:18in which you guys Okay, I just wanted to

4:19put it out there.

4:20>> Nope. Uh, super flex deep super flex

4:24if like you're we're in a leagues where

4:26every quarterback is

4:27>> that may start is on is rostered. So if

4:29that's the only format I own I I have

4:32Tyson Tyson Begent

4:33>> for perspective. Yes. Who may not even

4:35start at all this year.

4:36>> JJ McCarthy or Drake May rest of season.

4:39>> Stop it.

4:40>> Stop it. That's mean.

4:41>> Let's talk about Justin Jefferson.

4:43>> Yeah. Had an ankle injury. It was told.

4:45I mean, the coach said that he could

4:46have potentially come back if it was a

4:48game that was important enough for him

4:49to come back into. Uh, have we had any

4:51updates? I haven't seen anything that

4:52says there we go from Ian Rap. Uh, Ian

4:55Raport says, "Has an ankle sprain with

4:57the imaging was good? Avoided anything

4:58longterm? There is a chance to play on

5:00Sunday." The only thing that I would say

5:02about this, there's been multiple

5:03reports including Ian's, is that we've

5:05had a few instances this year where

5:07players early in the week have been

5:10reported as having avoided a major

5:12injury and having a chance to play that

5:14week

5:15>> and then

5:15>> and then miss, you know, at least a

5:17week, you know, so we'll obviously we'll

5:19see on Justin Jefferson. If he's in,

5:22you're going to play him. If he's out,

5:23and this is a great matchup against

5:25Miami, playing in Minnesota this

5:27weekend, then Jordan Addison becomes

5:30very interesting. He scored 20 points

5:31last week.

5:32>> All right. Yeah.

5:33>> Anything else? You guys ready to dive

5:34into? I'm very sorry, Michael.

5:36>> Mike,

5:37>> I'm not ready for this.

5:38>> Go to the bathroom

5:39>> Monday. I'm going to go take a break.

5:40>> Yeah, this is bad.

5:41>> This was a tough one.

5:42>> Embarrassing watch as fans.

5:44>> And Bears,

5:45>> did any of us have any faith in Case

5:47Keenum?

5:48>> Uh, Field did.

5:49>> I mean, yeah. Field liked them more than

5:50beat it and pick the Bears. So, props to

5:52you, sir. Uh

5:53>> I um you know, this is one of them games

5:56watching Eagles slow start. You're like,

5:57"Okay, Keen was getting away with some

5:59stuff, just picking them apart. They'll

6:00adjust." And it started to trend that

6:02way. And the Eagles just kept making

6:04mistake after mistake. I mean, that was

6:06the hardest Eagles game to watch in

6:08years. I mean, that was it's hard a hard

6:10game to watch. If that was the worst

6:12team in the NFL, you'd be like, "Yeah,

6:13this checks out." Just constantly making

6:15errors like that. I mean, they could not

6:17help themselves. embarrassing watch and

6:19uh kind of hopefully a wakeup call for

6:21them because you know they barely got

6:23past the Titans, barely got past the

6:25Commanders and now getting smoked by a

6:28third string quarterback is a really bad

6:30look. Succinctly, um do you guys feel

6:33like we can buy a little more time

6:36before we draw final conclusions on the

6:38Bears players because Caleb Williams has

6:40basically played one game in real like

6:43there was terrible weather last week. He

6:45gets hurt during the game. I feel like

6:47there's still a chance that things turn

6:48around for this Bears offense and we

6:50have increased confidence in some of the

6:53heel guys. Do you agree with that or no?

6:55>> I both agree with that and also don't

6:58know how to quantify if Khalif Raymond

7:01is just going to keep hanging around in

7:03a way that annoys us the entire season.

7:06>> You know, we are I'm on a Lions group

7:08thread with you, of course, Daniel. Um,

7:10and all the Lions fans on that thread

7:11are like, dude, Khif's like a good

7:12player. Just

7:13>> Aman Ross St. Brown exists, so he wasn't

7:15ever going to have a huge role with

7:17Detroit. He is a good player,

7:18>> but he's like 32 and he's never had a

7:20production like this ever. Like this is

7:22kind of wild.

7:22>> It is wild. It's It's like I think he's

7:24a good player. I think what's more

7:26surprising is just how little the pass

7:28catchers in aggregate are doing.

7:30>> Except for Luther Burton.

7:31>> Yeah, Luther Burton did have a nice

7:32night last night. He had his eight yard

7:35touchdown catch. He like pushed the p

7:37the Bears pushed the pile into the end

7:38zone. That was cool.

7:40>> We might be feeling a little bit

7:41different about Coloulston Lovelin or

7:42Roma Dunes. if Loveland had slightly

7:45longer arms.

7:46>> Oh my gosh.

7:47>> Or Roma Dudes didn't drop a pass wide

7:49open in the end zone. So my personal

7:51stance here is that I think there's a

7:53chance when Caleb Williams is back after

7:56maybe a week or two of him getting

7:58reintegrated into this offense that

7:59we're talking about Colston Lovelin

8:01relatively close to where we were

8:03talking about him coming into the

8:04season. Case Keenum has more passing

8:06touchdowns than Drake Man.

8:07>> That's a tough stat.

8:10And I think Luther Burden and Roman

8:12Dunay I think is going to be a little

8:13bit of a trade-off situation.

8:15The the Eagles are are more interesting

8:17to me right now. Like the the

8:20>> wait until we get to that point.

8:21>> Are you starting Roma Dunes?

8:23>> I am not. No,

8:24>> no, he's wait. I mean, he's got he was

8:26wide receiver 49 for me coming into

8:27this.

8:28>> Yeah. Once again, Raymond seven targets

8:29in this game. Adun had six. I mean, he

8:31just You can make a case to start

8:33Raymond over Adun right now. You can

8:34start Odun right now. He has the talent

8:36that he belongs on benches now. kind of

8:38have to hope that remember he was

8:40injured leading up to the season almost

8:41in play week one you have to hope that

8:42he's getting back to 100% at some point

8:44he'll have that big breakout game again

8:45to your point he had an endzone target

8:47should had a touchdown it may come he

8:48had six targets in this game but he's

8:50not a starter right now

8:51>> yeah's a bench and then Leland Loeland

8:53and Burton both were like arrows

8:55trending up after

8:56>> I would still say Lovelin on benches I

8:58mean I don't want to say I mean if if

9:00you're in a tough spot he's a borderline

9:02starter but he's like arguably like

9:03Daltton Daltton Schultz uh Hunter Henry

9:06like

9:07>> Tucker Craft like he's in that tier

9:08right now. I mean, he had four targets

9:10out of 34 pass attempts. That's bad.

9:12Like that's that's not going to cut it.

9:13And that's been a trend three games in

9:15now.

9:15>> Yes, I agree. He's he's a trickier one.

9:17I think I if I have him like the options

9:19in leagues

9:21limited whereas Dun the pivots are so

9:23much more clear. The Dunes I wonder if

9:25at some point we'll have a conversation.

9:27It's not quite as dramatic given the

9:29circumstances in which they entered the

9:31league and were drafted,

9:32>> but it feels a little bit like Marvin

9:33Harrison Jr. right now.

9:35>> Little bit. You know, they were talking

9:37bad comp and I'm upset about it.

9:38>> Spots apart. I I hear I understand why

9:40you're upset about it.

9:41>> He at least had a string last year of

9:42really good games. Gives you some hope,

9:44but yeah, it's just

9:46>> had some maybe not a string, but Mars

9:47had some pockets, but not

9:48>> not quite not like not like Roma did to

9:51open last season. That first month he

9:52was a what, a top five fantasy receiver

9:54and then it really sunk. I I don't

9:55really know exactly what's gone wrong. I

9:57know that Kale and look, Caleb Blame's

9:58passing efficiency wasn't great last

10:00year. Like he can do a lot and he's a

10:01playmaker and added a lot of value with

10:02his legs, but he completed what like 59%

10:04of his passes. That's not a good number

10:06like that if that connection between

10:08them two once Caleb's back is going to

10:09have to improve.

10:10>> So to put a pin in the Bears quickly.

10:11>> Yes.

10:12>> Colston Lovelin fringe tight end one. I

10:14mean like possible starter intensity

10:16with you.

10:16>> Luther Burton the Bears wide receiver I

10:18have the most confidence in lineup

10:20>> not too far behind that. Khalif Raymond

10:23on benches for right now. Roman

10:24>> Roman Dun. Yep.

10:25>> For for the Eagles. This this one's

10:27frustrating. I mean Mike I'm sure is

10:28more frustrated but like the eye test is

10:31not great. Jaylen Herz uh late in week

10:35one threw two touchdown passes last week

10:37was just okay. Where does Jaylen Herz

10:40generally tear right now amongst QBs?

10:43>> He's back he's fallen to fringe QB1.

10:45He's not running that much either. It's

10:46>> hardly running. Yeah, I mean it was kind

10:48of kind of build out last night by that

10:50last second at the end of the first half

10:52tush push.

10:52>> Yeah, absolutely was. Yeah, it wasn't

10:54wasn't good. Uh they

10:56>> they were time especially early in the

10:57game it felt like they were going to get

10:58going. Like it just seemed like they

11:00were starting to move the ball. there

11:01was something going on offensively.

11:02Dvonte Smith obviously made some plays.

11:04That guy is ridiculous. But they just

11:06couldn't get consistently get drives

11:07going and that was the same thing that

11:08happened last year. So you have to hope

11:10that it's just taking some time in this

11:12Shawn Mandian offense, but it's it's not

11:15h like they can't drive down the field

11:16and score just like last year. It's a

11:18big problem.

11:18>> That sequence when he came off the field

11:20to get checked out for a concussion and

11:22then Andy Dalton throws an interception

11:24at the goal line.

11:26>> That felt like the turning point. There

11:28was a lot of time still left in the

11:29game, but to me that felt like the

11:30turning point. Like it was brutal.

11:32>> A friend of mine made a point who's a

11:34big Eagles fan as well. Like the Eagles

11:36are carrying four quarterbacks and like

11:37your backup comes in and does that. I

11:39mean what's the point of having all them

11:40quarterbacks if that you're going to

11:41step in for one play and throw it right

11:43to the defender? Unacceptable.

11:44>> Yeah. Not great there for the Eagles.

11:46And I talked about this what a week or

11:48two ago like we've degraduated from

11:51elite running back for Saquon Barkley.

11:52>> Yeah.

11:53>> We just have like

11:54>> And it's not his fault he ran. He was

11:55great in that game. I mean, the running

11:57lanes were massive. Props to the O line.

11:59The They should have just handed it off

12:01every play, honestly, because the D was

12:02Dude was unstoppable. Um

12:04>> over five yards a carry.

12:06>> Yeah.

12:06>> But as I the two question marks when we

12:09talked about this a couple weeks ago

12:10were

12:11>> he's not going to get the goal line

12:12work, at least not to himself because

12:14the tush push is still allowed.

12:16>> The two goal line works they had was

12:17Jaylen Herz getting a touchdown and Andy

12:18Daltton throwing an interception. Right.

12:20Those were the two goal line

12:21opportunities.

12:21>> And then Saquon doesn't catch passes

12:23anymore.

12:23>> One for you two receiving yards.

12:25>> Yeah. Will Shipley is playing a role in

12:26passing situations. Uh yeah. Is that the

12:29second time this year he's lost yards in

12:30the game? Doesn't he have negative

12:31receiving yards in week one?

12:32>> Him and Kai Lemon. There's too many

12:34negative receiving yardage.

12:36>> Oh man. Yeah. Are we getting the I hear

12:38you where this passing offense is going

12:39to start to kind of mirror the Ravens

12:42with the way we look at it where as much

12:43as we liked Octavian Wix, he's kind of

12:45like the Rashad Baitman of this offense.

12:46>> Yeah. I mean that's what we thought

12:47coming in. That's the one thing we got

12:49right about this. I mean we thought

12:50they'd score more.

12:51>> Devonte Smith and then that's basically

12:53it. Yeah, I know Wix a couple of pockets

12:54earlier, but I think that was more fluky

12:56than it is sustainable.

12:57>> Yeah, two for 32 in this game.

12:58>> I might be like trying to Is Wish cast a

13:01word?

13:01>> Wish maybe.

13:02>> Sure. Whatever. I'm trying to like I

13:04don't know if this is like casting. I

13:05think so.

13:06>> Who has Dallas Goddard and kind of needs

13:07him in a high stakes league.

13:09>> Kind of feels like they miss him on

13:10offense.

13:11>> I could see.

13:11>> Yeah. I mean, Zacks made his return last

13:13night. Didn't play a lot. It was his

13:15first game back, first game of the

13:16season. But yeah, definitely he's

13:17>> middle of the field out felt like. Yeah.

13:19maybe less likely to move on from him

13:21next off seasonally. Eli Sters doesn't

13:23work out.

13:24>> Guys, I just really want to last thing

13:26very so fast. I want to give a quick

13:27shout out to Case Keenum. This dude came

13:29off of a bench

13:30>> and he was a top five quarterback. The

13:32top five quarterbacks for this week.

13:34>> No way.

13:34>> Unbelievably,

13:36>> I don't want to say gross, but just not

13:38what you would have expected coming into

13:40the week. Yeah, we have a full screen

13:41here. Brock Pury number one, Sam Darnold

13:43number two, Gino Smith number three,

13:45Jacobe Brassette number four, Case

13:46Keenum number five. Those are your top

13:48five fantasy quarterbacks for

13:50>> Here's the question though. You're in a

13:51normal 10 or 12 team league. You uh

13:52putting a claim in for any of them.

13:54Assume parties on a roster, not him, but

13:56like Darnold Smith, Brum claiming any of

13:58those guys.

13:58>> We'll talk about Brousette a little bit

14:00later, but the rest of them are a no.

14:01>> I think the biggest thing for

14:02quarterbacks this year that I've noticed

14:04early,

14:05>> man alive to match ups matter this

14:07because there are some absolutely

14:09feastful I made that word up again.

14:11Second word I made up in two minutes.

14:13There are some opportunities to feast

14:14around this.

14:14>> And this is we we talked about this

14:16after when we did our week one rankings.

14:18We were like, why is a guy that's ranked

14:20like QB2 or three so low? Because that

14:22we said it's Josh Allen and then there's

14:24this gigantic tier of quarterback. So

14:27matchup is going to swing these guys

14:28from 21 to seven some weeks. I mean,

14:32wait till you see this. Wait till you

14:33see the rankings tomorrow because I have

14:34two guys in the top five or six who are

14:37outside the top 12 most weeks. So

14:39matchups are huge this year. Speaking of

14:41matchup, guys, I tried to play matchups

14:43quite a bit when I did starts of the

14:44week here the other week. Whoops.

14:48>> Quick recap here, Field. We're going to

14:49start with you for this one.

14:51>> Here we are in week three. You started

14:54Tyler Shuck. He played very well again.

14:56>> Yep.

14:56>> Bucky Irving. Garrett Wilson absolutely

14:59smashed. And Travis Kelce only two

15:00catches, but he just keeps doing the

15:02thing.

15:02>> Found the end zone.

15:03>> 72.2 total fantasy.

15:04>> I'll take that. Bucky obviously got

15:06banged up.

15:06>> Mike, scoring correction. I need a

15:09scoring correction.

15:10>> Uh

15:10>> oh. How come?

15:11>> Cuz I lost by like one point.

15:13>> Oh, that's why. Okay. Not because there

15:15was actually a Okay. Brock Py 31.28.

15:19Mike got lucky cuz he played a DFS

15:20lineup. Had the stack with George KD.

15:23Those two late touchdowns. 26.2 fantasy

15:26points for KD. Judkins and Tedell

15:28McMillan. Both dutted, but 71.08.

15:32My starts of the week for this week.

15:35There's no

15:36>> Mahomes against Miami.

15:37>> Didn't Chuba Hubard also only fine.

15:41Gristo 19.7.

15:43>> Guy's so freaking good, man.

15:44>> Guys, Dalton Concincaid, I can't get the

15:47tight end position right.

15:48>> I can.

15:51>> Which means for the second week in a

15:53row, I've got to spin the wheel.

15:55>> Yeah, let's go.

15:56>> By the way, we were texting uh group

15:58group texting about this and I was like,

16:00I'm in trouble. And that was before

16:01either of the two touchdowns from Perie

16:03to KD. It just started it started

16:05heating up and Pertie actually had a

16:07>> we were laughing because Pertie had a

16:09long rushing touchdown and but there was

16:10a hold at the last second by KD to stop

16:12it. The next play he catches the

16:13touchdown. It was like a very selfish

16:16hold. He ends up getting the points out

16:17of it. So even better for me.

16:19>> I was so frustrated when that happened.

16:21I just wanted second half come back.

16:23>> Well, before we do this one because I'm

16:25going to spin it next. We're going to

16:26pay off what I had was my loss a couple

16:29of weeks ago and we have a things for

16:30you to be able to watch.

16:32>> Oh boy. All

16:33right, Daniel Dopp, today is the day you

16:36have to pay off the wax your leg

16:38punishment. How are we feeling? What are

16:39your expectations for this punishment?

16:43>> Uh, expectations are low. I am feeling

16:47nerves. I am not excited about the

16:50follicle coming out of the skin.

16:53And I know that's going to happen a lot.

16:55>> I wasn't intending on you being the one

16:59who had to follow through with this.

17:06You are officially 100% not allowed in

17:10our YouTube chat anymore. I love you so

17:12much. You don't get to vote on

17:14punishments. I'm going to go get the

17:17hair ripped out of my legs. I love you.

17:18I hope you're proud of what you've done.

17:20>> All right.

17:20>> Oh, Christina.

17:22>> Okay.

17:24>> Here we go.

17:24>> I don't want to do this anymore, guys.

17:27>> All right.

17:27>> My gosh.

17:29>> Don't one, two, three me. Don't. It's

17:31fine.

17:32>> Three.

17:33>> Oh, you Ouch.

17:37>> Oh my gosh. YOU DIDN'T EVEN PULL ANY OF

17:38IT OUT. YOU LEFT IT ALL IN THERE. WHY

17:41DIDN'T IT COME OUT, CHRISTINA?

17:44>> NO. OKAY.

17:45>> TWO.

17:46>> OH, THAT ONE HURT more than the first

17:49one. I don't want this anymore.

17:53Why did I choose fantasy football for a

17:55living? I don't want TO DO THIS. OH,

17:57KEVIN.

17:59I'M GOING TO BE LIKE a freaking

18:02I don't LIKE

18:05holy counting.

18:06>> You know what I don't love? I don't love

18:07the way that you're chuckling after

18:09every time you do it right now. Is this

18:10the way they do it in like real places?

18:12Do they put them on with LIKE STUFF LIKE

18:13THIS? OH NO. YOU MADE EYE CONTACT WITH

18:16ME AND DID THAT WHILE I WAS TALKING TO

18:17YOU.

18:19OH, GREEN PACKERS.

18:24CHRISTINA.

18:26OH, LADY THOMPSON.

18:29OH,

18:31I don't like this. Devon Chan,

18:47>> guys,

18:48>> we are not worthy.

18:49>> Guys, you want to know what an Olympian

18:51feels like? Go ahead and touch my leg

18:52right now.

18:53>> That's what it feels like,

18:54>> dude. Do you feel how soft it is?

18:56>> It feels like like like a marble statue.

18:59>> Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

19:00>> I don't want to

19:01>> I'm basically right now like a third of

19:03Michael Phelps.

19:04>> Wow. That's

19:04>> crazy uncomfortable and it was probably

19:06worse than the actual punishment. I was

19:08>> It was terrible

19:08>> for me. My experience watching that was

19:10probably

19:11>> I just want to say one more time. I'm

19:12adopt. I hope you're proud of yourself

19:13and please no more. All right.

19:16>> All right. Spin the wheel.

19:17>> Now that I have that I get to uh spin

19:19the wheel on the wheel. Uh they told me

19:21because they they're replacing the

19:22punishments. So they just covered up.

19:23So,

19:24>> wait. What is under that? Do you have to

19:25take it off of there first?

19:26>> Yeah.

19:27>> The other option that we're doing is wax

19:29other leg. You bee holes. No way.

19:32>> You better not.

19:33>> No way.

19:34>> That is not an option. Wax other leg

19:36does not count. All right, here we go.

19:38I'm going to spin the wheel. If that

19:39happens, I'm going to lose my mind. You

19:41guys are doing the show by yourself.

19:42>> Oh, that'd be amazing.

19:43>> Here we go. Three, two, one. All right.

19:48Wheel is slowing down, guys. Here we go.

19:56It is

19:59mile.

20:06>> I'm

20:06>> Oh man,

20:07>> I'm not sure I'm going to survive this

20:08season, guys.

20:09>> Yeah. Um, better start with better

20:11lineup.

20:12>> So,

20:12>> I've got the two worst punishments and

20:14it's week four.

20:15>> We'll talk about this. Let Let me Let me

20:18um We're going to figure it out for a

20:19moment. This is like an editor's note

20:21here. We did have a recent conversation

20:25about whether we need to remove the beer

20:27mile. We're going to see whether we get

20:28approval on this.

20:29>> You might just have to run a mile.

20:31>> You think I can't run a mile? Nope.

20:33>> I don't know about that.

20:34>> Full speed. I don't know. We'll figure

20:35it out.

20:35>> We'll see something.

20:37>> That is

20:38>> I forgot that was still on there.

20:40>> A beer mile. A milk mile.

20:41>> We actually We are going to legitimately

20:43remove the la the waxed leg, right?

20:45Yeah.

20:46>> You guys might have to wax you up.

20:47>> That was there to that was a prank.

20:50>> Right. All right. Anyway, uh set better

20:53lineups.

20:54This is terrible.

20:56>> All right. Long shot check-in really

20:57quickly, guys.

20:58>> I'm not excited about starts of the week

21:00anymore.

21:00>> Yeah,

21:00>> long shot checkins. None of us got it.

21:02AJ Dylan, Laquan Treadwell, Sky Moore,

21:04Colobby Young,

21:06>> nobody even close.

21:07>> Yeah, some some uh some of those guys

21:09got decent run. Kobe Young ended up

21:11further down the depth chart than we

21:12thought without Andre Oivas. Was it

21:15Dante Meyers got the run there as the

21:17three? Um

21:18>> but yeah, Moore was busy. should be

21:20again until Jaden Reed's back in that

21:22offense. Laquan Treadwell was very busy

21:24in the Colts offense, but Darius Sling

21:25could take on a larger role and AJ

21:27Dillan's at two in Carolina

21:29>> right now. So, we we're on the right

21:30track there, but this graphic is kind of

21:33ice cold because there's only one thing

21:35that matters, right? It's like did you

21:36score or not?

21:37>> Yeah,

21:38>> it would have been kind of nice if it

21:39was like, yeah, AJ Dylan like you know

21:41played 42% of the snaps. Someone does

21:44your phone make a frog noise when you

21:45>> That was R2-D2. R2D. That was mama adopt

21:48texting me in the middle of the show.

21:49>> Oh, nice. Anyways, yeah, none of us got

21:50it right that week. That sucks.

21:52>> Yeah.

21:52>> What can you do? By the way, it's like

21:54zeros and ones. Like that's Mike's

21:55literal language. It's either it works

21:57or it doesn't. You know what I mean,

21:58right? That's exactly what it is.

22:00>> Don't trust the process. It's what I

22:01often say.

22:02>> We have uh By the way, speaking of

22:04punishments, Daniel obviously is is is

22:06feeling it from yesterday. I play in

22:08another league where we spin the wheel

22:09as well. We have a weekly punishment for

22:11the low scorer. Okay.

22:12>> Uh there's 14 of us. So, you know, your

22:14odds of being the low scorer, whatever,

22:16whatever one and 14 is. um friend of

22:18mine uh is a lawyer at a like a

22:21high-powered attorney uh in Chicago and

22:23he has to wear a tuxedo to work today.

22:26>> So he's been sending his pictures

22:28hopefully.

22:28>> He's been sending pictures to me and he

22:30has said I am allowed to use them on our

22:32show. So maybe tomorrow I'll give a

22:33little my friend Spencer's day as a

22:35lawyer in a tuxedo in Chicago.

22:37>> Quick shout out to our buddy Joe Forenb

22:39who is unfortunately no longer with us.

22:41>> Whoa, don't say it that way.

22:43>> In our knockout league

22:44>> every week he says it that way. Don't do

22:46that.

22:46>> He was not out. Look at that though.

22:50Joe's a good-look man. Sam Darnold, he

22:52was good, right? George Pickins wasn't

22:54bad, but then everyone else, Divine

22:55Achan, unfortunately got hurt. Emanuel

22:57Wilson, Jaylen Wadd, Hunter Henry, and

22:59Jaylen Coker. Two guys that got hurt.

23:02Divine Achan actually is the player that

23:04was rostered in the most knockout

23:05leagues to be knocked out this week.

23:08>> So, we also have an ESPN editorial

23:10knockout league. Did you guys see what

23:12happened in that one?

23:12>> No. What happened? Uh the tie or by 002

23:1602 was the difference.

23:17>> Oh yeah, that wasn't the Was that the

23:18editorial? No, that was the other one, I

23:20think.

23:20>> Oh. Oh, sorry. That was the other one.

23:22>> Elite League. That's right. The one

23:23Yeah. With some a bunch of our uh

23:25friends and celebrities are in and all

23:26that kind of stuff. Um

23:27>> yeah, it was a 53. Yeah, that's right.

23:3053.46

23:32was the low score. 53.48 was the second

23:35lowest score.

23:36>> Yeah. By the way, in both of those

23:37leagues, the knockout team had Josh

23:39Allen under center. Uh very interesting.

23:41Yeah.

23:41>> Oh, that's crazy. thought he might not

23:43he right. Yeah, it just speaks to how

23:45good he he can kind of keep you afloat.

23:47>> Um and he can also sink your ship.

23:50>> All right, quick check in really fast

23:51before we dive into waiverss. We got

23:52some board bets we want to make sure we

23:54pay off. Mike and I had a board bet, but

23:56it was voided. So, we're not even going

23:57to talk about this one. It was Divine

23:59Han. Yeah,

24:00>> that's unfortunate.

24:01>> So, that one is out.

24:02>> I was going to win, so I'll take I'll

24:03accept victory.

24:04>> I doubt that. The other one Mike

24:05definitely got this one right. Terry

24:06McLuren had a huge rebound. Outscores

24:09Denzel Boston. Michael Clay takes this

24:11one. Thank you.

24:12>> Shout out to you on that.

24:13>> Hey, crush it.

24:14>> And with that,

24:14>> F1,

24:15>> let's dive into some priority waiver ads

24:17here in week four, my friends. Talk

24:18about a handful of guys.

24:21>> Hey guys,

24:22>> at the running back spot.

24:23>> Yeah, we have a lot of running backs to

24:24talk about. I'll be honest with you. I

24:26was working on the playbook last night

24:27and preparing to talk waiverss and

24:29looking at uh the there's three teams

24:32that are lost their running back that

24:33we're going to have to talk about,

24:34right? That are very unlikely to play

24:35this week or definitely not going to

24:36play this week. Miami obviously with

24:38H&M. The Jets with Bree Hall is probably

24:40going to be out and Travis Han down with

24:42New Orleans. He's going to be out. So,

24:43we have to talk about all the running

24:44back options. It wasn't fun. There's no

24:47one for one. No, there's no one for one.

24:49And this was not fun. These guys have

24:50not necessarily had a lot of work in the

24:52pros or they haven't been very good when

24:54they've gotten run off the bench. So, um

24:56this is kind of gross and it's going to

24:58be hard to sort through these, but we'll

24:59tell you how we anticipate it looking.

25:01>> So, we're going to start with the Jets.

25:02A groin injury, a thigh injury. I've

25:05heard a couple of different things here.

25:06Yeah. Um, Bree Hall week to week.

25:09>> I think you have to at least plan on him

25:11not being there. And if that's the case,

25:12the guy that we saw take over was Brilan

25:14Allen.

25:15>> How high up this list are you guys? Is

25:17he is a must add for you at running

25:18back?

25:19>> He is the number one out of all the

25:20running available this week. We were

25:22talking about this pre-show. Bruce Hall

25:24got hurt at 11:30.

25:26>> Correct. 113.

25:26>> 11 minutes and 36 seconds left in the

25:28fourth quarter on Sunday. Good call by

25:30>> Got it right guy. Uh, and the rest of

25:33the way the Jets ran 17 plays.

25:36>> Brillan Allen played all 17 of those

25:38plays.

25:39>> We talk about how like sometimes when

25:41quarterbacks get hurt, like how it goes

25:43the rest of the game for the backup is

25:45not reflective of how we feel it will go

25:46for that backup. But the full week of

25:48preparation, the Bear is probably a good

25:50testament to that last night.

25:52>> When a running back gets hurt, like it's

25:54not unusual for the third running back

25:56on the roster to have a role anyways.

25:59And so you can just split the snaps the

26:02rest of the way. For Isaiah Davis to

26:04play zero snaps in the last 17 was

26:07notable to me. The Jets I think playing

26:09on Brilan Allen being their guy this

26:12weekend at least against the Bears who I

26:14think is a defense you can run the

26:16football against. Aquin averaged what

26:17nearly five and a half yards per carry

26:20last night. So Brilan Allen will be my

26:22priority even if this is only a oneweek

26:24thing which it sounds like there's a

26:25chance this is a oneweek fill. Yeah. By

26:27the way, Allan kind of a fun player in

26:29theory to watch. He's one of the biggest

26:30running backs in the NFL. He's like 6'1,

26:32what 230 now. He lost some weight in the

26:34offseason. Gets a lot of hype every

26:35year. Oh no, he's going to eat into

26:36Bryce Bree Hall's workload and it just

26:39hasn't happened. He hasn't really done

26:40it and he hasn't run well. He's

26:41averaging 3.7 yards per carry so far in

26:44his career. And he's been around, we'll

26:46say, I mean, he missed most of last

26:48season, so it's not fair to, you know,

26:50hold that against him. But, uh, he

26:52hasn't really emerged as real a real

26:53threat. He only has two double digit

26:54fantasy games. Both were in 2024. So,

26:57I'm curious to see him get 15 20 touches

27:00and see what he could do with it. But,

27:01uh, so far it hasn't happened. It makes

27:03me temper expectations.

27:04>> When you think 15 to 20 touches, how

27:06many of them are in the rushing game?

27:07How many of them are in the

27:08>> most in the I would imagine most in the

27:10rushing. Isaiah Davis, there was it was

27:13um two years ago, Hall was the lead back

27:15for the Jets. This was a different

27:16coaching staff, keep in mind, but Davis

27:18and uh Allen were kind of splitting the

27:21number two job back and forth. Uh, and

27:23Davis outplayed him. I mean, by the way,

27:24Davis had 64 touches last year, and in

27:26his career, he's averaging 5.6 yards per

27:28carry. So, he's player. Yes. So, I just

27:30want to I agree with you. Allen's the

27:33priority. I'm more likely to go with him

27:35as a flex. I mean, Davis doesn't have a

27:37have a touch this year, so naturally,

27:38we're going to lean toward Allen, but

27:39there's a a chance that he's kind of

27:41grinding away, and Davis is the one

27:42making plays. It's at least possible.

27:44So, just it makes me hesitate a little

27:46bit with how much capital I'm going to

27:47spend here. On top of the fact that we

27:49are talking about most likely splits in

27:52all of these situations where three

27:54starting running backs went down, we're

27:56also talking about three teams who the

27:58running backs that went down weren't

28:00exactly crushing, right? Devon Han is in

28:02a struggling Miami offense. We'll talk

28:04about Travis Han in a struggling Saints

28:07running game and then Bree Hall who very

28:09talented, but the story of Bree Hall's

28:11fantasy career has always been like

28:13there is plenty of upside because he's

28:15just that talented. the infrastructure

28:17isn't great around him. So, Brilan Allen

28:19is my number one running back ad for

28:21this week. He will not crack my top 20

28:23for week four running back ranks.

28:25>> Let's talk about Travis Han next.

28:26>> Yeah, by the way, if you don't like

28:28hearing Han and you're getting

28:29frustrated with the Han ETN stuff, like

28:32neither of them are none of them are

28:33playing. Three of them. There's three of

28:35them. None of them are still on IR.

28:37Travis is going to be out and uh of

28:39course Devon is out for the season. So,

28:41if you were frustrated with that, you

28:42don't have to sweat it for this.

28:43>> Travis Han missing time with a

28:44hamstring. Sounds like it could be a

28:46couple of weeks. We got Alvin Chimera,

28:48we got Kendra Miller, and CJ freaking

28:50Donaldson just won't go away in this

28:52back field as well. You mean like that's

28:54not his middle name?

28:55>> No, no, you just That's not a real

28:57person, right?

28:58>> What did I say?

28:59>> No, it's a joke. Cuz CJ Donaldson,

29:01that's made up. That's can't be a real

29:02person.

29:02>> Gosh, I was like, did I call him the

29:04wrong name? I felt so bad.

29:05>> And they give Travis a ton of money and

29:07they have Kendra Miller.

29:08>> Why is CJ Donaldson watching the

29:10football as much as he brought back

29:11Alvin Camra? There's no way that's a

29:12real thing.

29:13>> But it is. Is Alvin Chimera going to be

29:15like the guy? I know you said there's no

29:17like one toone replacement. How are you

29:18guys both looking at this?

29:19>> I I pro if I'm if I'm pressed to add a

29:21Saints running back. I'm adding Alvin

29:23Chimera. My expectations are pretty low.

29:25I was talking last week leading into

29:27week three. Like I don't understand this

29:29Travis Han thing for many reasons. Most

29:31notably is that Alvin Chimera is getting

29:33opportunities and he's one of the least

29:35effective running backs in the NFL now.

29:36Alltime legend, alltime Saints legend,

29:38all time fantasy legend. Not an

29:40effective running back anymore. Could he

29:41surprise us in a game or two? For sure.

29:43But I just feel like there's a chance

29:45that this Saints offense will still be

29:47good because Tyler Shuck is chucking it.

29:50And Tyler Shuck, I think, will be the

29:51goal line option for the Saints. They've

29:53run multiple quarterback sneaks from the

29:56one yard line or two yard line and in

29:58with Tyler Shuck already this year. Like

30:00I wouldn't be surprised if they get the

30:02ball down to the one yard line and the

30:03first thought, the first call is tap

30:05your own number here. Tap tap your own

30:07helmet, Tyler Shuck.

30:08>> I know it's not the same, but I feel

30:09like Ryan Tanahill used to have a large

30:11number of goal line rushing touchdowns.

30:13Maybe that was with Derek Henry. Maybe

30:14that was the Dolphins. Yeah. Yeah. Um

30:17>> I agree with you. I think Camaro is the

30:19priority ad here, but remember last year

30:21he was still the lead back in New

30:22Orleans. He averaged 12.8 carries and

30:243.7 targets per game in his 10 full

30:26games. He had one touchdown and was and

30:28averaged under 10 fantasy points per

30:30game.

30:31>> I think they're they've been using a

30:32three-headed committee so far this

30:34season.

30:35>> That's not going to change without Han.

30:37They're going to Miller will

30:38>> Kre Miller stepped. He didn't he played

30:42>> I don't know if Achan got beat up and

30:44then left the game briefly and then came

30:45back in for one more play. But Kendry

30:47Miller did not play a snap in that game

30:49until the second to last snap for Han.

30:53He he went in then Kendrick came in

30:55played like four straight plays. Han

30:56came in for one play and then he was

30:58done for the game. So I don't know

30:59exactly what happened there but

31:00regardless he's going to be involved. He

31:02was involved a lot once um once HM went

31:05down in that game. This is a guy that's

31:07been fine so far. He's averaging 3.9

31:09yards per carry in his career. And to

31:11your point, Donaldson's going to be

31:12involved here as well. But Camar should

31:14be the lead. Miller involved.

31:16Donaldson's going to handle some snaps.

31:17And this week they're playing Atlanta.

31:19Atlanta's been really good against the

31:20run so far. 3.1 yards per carry to the

31:23opposing running back. Fourth few

31:24fantasy point. So situation to avoid at

31:26at the minimum at the most. Camaro is on

31:29the flex radar in 12 team leagues.

31:30That's it. That's I was just going to

31:32say, can we quantify for Brilan Allen?

31:34He's a priority add and I would add him

31:35in 10 team leagues for this week.

31:37>> I would Yeah, probably both. I I'm

31:39probably adding both. I would say

31:40Allen's a priority though. Yeah, I would

31:42agree

31:42>> for You would add Alvin Chimera in a 10

31:44team league as well. You would at least

31:45consider it.

31:46>> Yep.

31:46>> Yeah, because it could be I mean there's

31:48a chance a Chan goes on IR at the very

31:49least he's probably going to miss a

31:50couple of weeks.

31:51>> Okay.

31:52>> Uh so we just we just were told miss

31:54time. That's all we were told. He's

31:55going to miss time.

31:56>> So then we got one other back field and

31:57it's the Miami Dolphins. When you look

31:59at this back field, obviously Ali Gordon

32:01was the guy. 14 and a half fantasy

32:03points, the most running choice.

32:04>> They didn't have a choice.

32:05>> Literally had two running backs active.

32:07>> He scored more points than Devon Chan

32:09did in either of his first two weeks. I

32:11have zero confidence in this offense,

32:13though. Like, I would not be adding a

32:16Dolphins running back in a 10 team

32:17league. I would have to be in a much

32:18deeper league. Where are you guys at on

32:19this one?

32:20>> I would take a No, no, you go. I I was

32:22going to say I'm going to take Flyers

32:23here. So, this is just an end to bench

32:25thing. I'm not starting them this week

32:26for sure. Olly Gordon came in last year,

32:28one of the youngest running backs in the

32:30NFL. There's a lot of hype there. Very

32:31intriguing prospect, but it hasn't

32:33happened so far. Yes, he was forced into

32:35work last week, had to play, he played

32:3682% of the snaps. Obviously, HM went

32:39down early, 41 yards and 17 carries, had

32:4214 yards on three targets in the game,

32:44but he's now at 2.7 yards per carry in

32:47his career so far. It just hasn't

32:48happened yet. He did score five

32:50touchdowns last year off the bench

32:51essentially. But um Jaylen Wright is

32:54going to be involved like it's not just

32:56going to be a oneman show. Assuming he's

32:58healthy and ready to go this week, he'll

32:59be a factor. Positive point that you

33:01want to make.

33:02>> I'm not getting there. Okay. Uh Wright

33:04did have 70 plus touches each of the

33:05last two seasons. Now, every time it

33:07seemed like Gordon was going to take the

33:08two job behind HN. Wright somehow took

33:11it back. So maybe he's the lead back.

33:12And that's one of the dangers here of

33:14prioritizing Oi Gordon. Okay. um I think

33:17um but they're also facing Minnesota

33:18this week. So if you need more

33:20ammunition to not start them this week,

33:22they're allowing 3.1 yards per carry and

33:24the third fewest fantasy points to

33:25running back. So like I said, this was

33:26gross working through all these options

33:28here. It's not good situations. It's

33:30probably going to be all committees.

33:32These are not guys you're usually going

33:33to want to start. Um but usually if

33:36you're like there's a lead back on

33:38waiverss, usually it's a fine person to

33:40put on the end of your bench just just

33:41to see what happens.

33:43um this but yeah we were talking about

33:45Devon Ham, one of the most talented

33:46running backs in the entire NFL and he's

33:49getting lots of opportunities and being

33:51remarkably inefficient and now agreed

33:53>> a much lesser player behind him. These

33:55all it's it's simultaneously a little

33:57bit tantalizing on ro on waiverss when

33:59it's like wow a starting running back

34:01potentially available but then you're

34:02like I'm not sure that any of these guys

34:04are really worth it. So um not a great

34:06waiver week. I actually feel like the

34:08best value on the waivers this week is

34:10quarterback streamers.

34:11>> I agree. Just really quickly, Minnesota,

34:13then Cincinnati, then a buy for the

34:15Dolphins. So, it's going to be, you

34:16know, three tough weeks in a row for

34:17Ollie Gordon if you do grab him.

34:18>> Yeah. If Gordon, we'll do ranks

34:20tomorrow, but he is not in my top 30.

34:22>> Also, just be He's not playing right

34:24now, but at the running back spot, do

34:25you guys think Zack Charbanet needs to

34:26be added now or would you wait another

34:28week or two until you decided to grab

34:29him?

34:29>> I think he's what available in about 50%

34:31of leagues right now. Yeah,

34:33>> I think he's f I put him on my bench for

34:35sure. He's probably going to be looking

34:36at 15 plus carries at least a game. I

34:39mean, they No one else is emerging. I

34:41>> I think he absolutely should be added.

34:42>> Yeah, no doubt.

34:43>> You have a question.

34:43>> Brillin Allen.

34:44>> Yeah.

34:46>> Alvin Chimera, Zack Charbanet.

34:49>> I would do it this way. Here's how I

34:50would rank

34:50>> Ollie Gordon

34:51>> is the way that you ranked. I would go

34:55Brillin Allen, Alvin Chimera, um Ali

34:59Gordon in terms of the backup running

35:00backs to fill in if you need somebody

35:02right now. But if you're just sifting

35:04through,

35:05>> I think the most valuable rest of season

35:07player is Zach Char. Agree 100%. That's

35:09what I was going to say. If you if you

35:11had Hall and H I actually in our dynasty

35:13league I have Hall and HN so I'm in

35:15trouble. Uh like I would have to

35:17prioritize Brillin Allen Chimera because

35:20of your running back situation.

35:21>> Need them back.

35:22>> Even Montgomery for Jamar Chase who says

35:24>> uh I got to think about that. I mean if

35:26I go just send can you send me all them

35:29uh tweets from the David Montgomery

35:31supporters from after week one because

35:32then that'll kind of incentivize me to

35:34make that move. But uh anyway uh

35:36>> who's aged well.

35:37>> Yeah. But if not, if I don't need a

35:38running back, if I'm if I made it

35:39through healthy, certainly Charbanet

35:41would be the priority. I have to imagine

35:43the second half of the season, that guy

35:44is going to be very busy.

35:45>> Let's talk about the quarterbacks really

35:46quickly. Field Marcus Mariota looked

35:48good in his first game filling in for

35:50Jaden Daniels. He's got to be on this

35:51list as a guy you're thinking about. I

35:53think there's really only two guys for

35:54me. It's him and Jacob Brassette.

35:55>> Yeah, he has a great matchup does Marcus

35:56Mario. There's a third name that I'll

35:58mention, but I don't feel as confident

36:00in. I talked about him a couple days ago

36:01in a negative light, but Mario man like

36:04it's it's we're sort of having a

36:05relative movement for these like backup

36:08quarterbacks that enter the league with

36:11either a lot of pedigree or a lot of

36:14college production or both. Case Keenum,

36:16did you guys see that graphic last night

36:17during the Monday Night Football

36:18broadcast where it showed Case Keenum

36:20played five years of college ball. He's

36:22in his 14th NFL season and he still has

36:24more career passing yards and passing

36:27touchdowns during his college career

36:29than his 14 NFL season. That's wild.

36:31That's insane. He was the most prolific

36:33passer in NCAA on he was amazing in his

36:35time in

36:36>> I played one season of college football

36:38fantasy or fantasy college football and

36:40that was my quarterback and I crushed

36:42that league.

36:43>> It was a one season. It's like I'm

36:44retired.

36:44>> Case Gum was the man back. He still is

36:47the man. Um so anyways, we're having a

36:48kind of movement here and Marcus Mario

36:49does part of that movement. He is a

36:51totally serviceable backup quarterback.

36:54He is probably, if you were a starter,

36:56somewhere between like 21 and 32, but as

36:58a backup, he's somewhere between like 1

37:00and three in terms of best backups in

37:02the NFL. And my oh my, what a matchup he

37:05has across the pond in Indianapolis. The

37:07Colts actually weren't terrible against

37:09the Texans last week.

37:10>> Also might be because they were throwing

37:12to like Dalton Schultz and Xavier

37:15Hutchinson. The Texans kind of a mess of

37:17a passing game as it were. If you told

37:19me that Marcus Mariota with his rushing

37:22upside gets to 20 this weekend, I

37:24wouldn't be surprised.

37:24>> I wouldn't either.

37:26>> I think he was really obviously not

37:27think he was very efficient. He had

37:29three passing touchdowns and only 186

37:31passing yards. But if you took away a

37:33little bit of that, you know, passing uh

37:35involvement and gave it a little bit

37:36more to his legs, which is actually more

37:38valuable for us in fantasy. I could

37:39still see him being in that in that

37:41streaming radar for this week.

37:42>> Remember on a per game basis last season

37:44filling in for Daniels, he was QB12, so

37:46he's certainly a streaming option when

37:47the matchup is right. Last week we said

37:49maybe avoid him against Seattle which I

37:50mean

37:52>> missing that. I mean yeah like who would

37:53have thought. Uh but yeah against the

37:55Colts this week so it should be even

37:56better.

37:56>> Colts this week and then the Giants next

37:58week. Those are his next two matchups.

38:00Okay.

38:00>> The other guy I would consider would be

38:02Jacobe Brassette in part the two week

38:04thing too. When I look at Jacobe

38:06Brassette this week he's going to be

38:07taking on the New York Giants. They've

38:08got a bunch of guys unfortunately that

38:10they're dealing with injuries through

38:11and then the next matchup is the Detroit

38:13Lions. So, if you grab Reset, you would

38:15probably be thinking at least I have a

38:16quarterback for a couple weeks that I

38:18would be streaming because we know that

38:19you were probably going to play him

38:20against Detroit. He'd be in that low-end

38:22QB1 radar in week five.

38:23>> Yeah. More on this tomorrow, but Kyler

38:25Murray, uh, he's still available in 40%

38:27of leagues and he gets, uh, Miami this

38:29week.

38:29>> Kyler is insane.

38:31>> Yeah. So, uh, certainly a great spot for

38:34him this week to get, you know, to have

38:36kind of his breakout game hopefully from

38:38a fantasy perspective.

38:38>> Yes, you would hope that. Yes, indeed.

38:40Uh Kenyan Sadi's the only tight end and

38:41he looked fantastic, but I'm definitely

38:43adding him off of waiverss if he is out

38:45there right now.

38:46>> He's like the

38:47>> I was just going to say this is why you

38:49spend late flyers on high pedigree first

38:52round talents and just

38:54>> stash him there. Just I mean this what

38:57what did I say in the offseason? The

38:58last f the last five tight ends drafted

39:00in the first round finished top 12 much

39:03like the Jeremiah Loveat.

39:04>> Uh and Sadique already I mean he missed

39:07like the whole offseason. It's week

39:08three and he's already having he's had

39:09two big games now. I mean, he looked

39:11awesome in this one.

39:12>> Uh he he looked he looked really good.

39:14And am I worried that that's the best

39:15game we'll have all season? Yes. But

39:17again, we're like when we have if this

39:20were a week with seven clear and obvious

39:22waiver ads, we would not be mentioning

39:23the name Kenyan Sadik. But he showed

39:25enough, he's talented enough, and

39:28there's enough opportunity there with

39:29Mason Taylor out and the Jets being thin

39:31amongst pass catchers in general that

39:33maybe he turns into

39:34>> Yeah. Remember, you draft a tight end in

39:35the first round to be an elite tight

39:37end, not to be just like a okay guy. He

39:38should be featured and he's he already

39:40had a game like this. He's already ninth

39:42in fantasy points per game at tight end

39:44should be rostered in every league. This

39:45guy could be top five the rest of the

39:46season. You also draft in real life

39:48these elite tight ends to be

39:50>> the greatest market inefficiency in the

39:52NFL right now.

39:54>> You guys, I'm sure you guys have seen

39:55this. You we obviously watched the

39:56Saints and Raiders game on Sunday and

39:58the way in which Brock Bowers was

40:00deployed was basically as a wide

40:01receiver. I saw the the splits between

40:04the amount of snaps he played as inline

40:06tight end versus split out either in the

40:07slot or all the way out wide. He played

40:10like what 12% of his snaps as an inline

40:12tight end. He's extension eligible after

40:14this season.

40:15>> I was just going to ask you this.

40:16>> And the Raiders if they blow the tight

40:18end market away are going to pay him

40:20like 2122 million per year.

40:24>> He's worth more than that.

40:25>> The Patriots played Romeo Dobs $17

40:27million per year this off seasonason.

40:29>> Yep. Which one of those guys would you

40:30like how much of a delta in average

40:33annual value is there between those two

40:35players, right? Like what? He's not I

40:39would take if I'm building a passing

40:41offense, I would take one of those top

40:43flight wide receivers, the the Jamar

40:45Chase, JSN types that are already the

40:46very top of the food chain over Brock

40:48Bowers, but not by a lot. Nope. And

40:50they're going to be much else $20

40:52million more per year. Wild.

40:54>> See, he's uh if he's listening, he might

40:56hire you as an agent. He's got he's got

40:58one of the best ever, so he'll be in

40:59good hands.

41:00>> I don't know. You're making a You're

41:01making a strong case.

41:02>> But I'm It really is like if you're a

41:04team that thinks this guy can be the

41:05focal point to your passing game. That's

41:07an amazing

41:07>> Yeah. By the way, Michael Mayer is their

41:09tight end.

41:10>> Powers is their top receiver.

41:11>> Rob Powers, wide receiver.

41:12>> Yeah. Yeah, definitely.

41:13>> Let's dive into the mailbag, my friends.

41:15Let's do it.

41:15>> We got a couple people we're going to

41:16get some questions from. First and

41:18foremost, guys, I asked you, did anybody

41:20lose by a point or less with Debo Samuel

41:23in your lineup? We in fact had a lineup

41:26in which Debo Samuel scored the 15.4

41:29fantasy points, that's 80 receiving

41:31yards and a touchdown, but didn't get

41:32the catch and they lost 111.04 to

41:36111.26.

41:38>> Not getting that reception.

41:40>> Even in half PPR, you would have won

41:42that.

41:42>> Yes. God,

41:43>> that's so frustrating. But you know

41:45what's amazing is like

41:48>> as you're Yeah. Uh if as you're going

41:50through Sunday when Debo had that 80

41:52yard hook and ladder, you're like,

41:54"That's amazing.

41:54>> This is incredible.

41:55>> This is great." Like I just got 14

41:57fantasy points out of nowhere. Do you

41:58guys call it a hook and ladder? Hook and

42:00later roll.

42:01>> Hook and ladder.

42:02>> I say hook and ladder. Okay.

42:03>> But is a hook and ladder?

42:04>> I think both are socially acceptable.

42:06Yes. Um because you know, one player's

42:09running a hook, he is then throwing a

42:11lateral

42:12>> to the other player.

42:13>> Yeah. Why would it be called a ladder? I

42:15>> I don't know. But apparently they're

42:16both socially acceptable. That's that's

42:18typical of English, the English

42:19language, right? We just say stuff like,

42:21you know what, we're just going to

42:22change it. It's like I talk to my

42:24daughters about that. It's just like

42:25they come home starting to say words

42:27that like new popular words that don't

42:29make sense. I'm like, that that's not

42:30what that word means, though. And

42:31they're like, well, yes, it does. I'm

42:32like, no, it doesn't. That's not what

42:34that word means. And they just use it

42:36that way. And it's just because that's

42:38what it is.

42:38>> That's what you can do. You can just

42:40make something mean something and then

42:41All right, guys. It is what it is.

42:42>> Another Farfin Nugan here for you guys.

42:44>> Be yelling at a cloud. Farfinan. Yeah,

42:46that's a new that's another temper

42:47question.

42:48>> My god,

42:49>> is more aerodynamic for the beer mom

42:51now. Thank you, Owen Davis.

42:52>> What do we do with this man?

42:53>> Appreciate that.

42:55>> Oh,

42:55>> I'm 0 and3. Is there still hope for me?

42:57I'm in a 10 PERSON LEAGUE REAL

42:59>> ANDRI. OH NO.

43:01>> That's real Torren.

43:03>> Real.

43:04>> Real Torren. Yeah,

43:05>> realtor Andre.

43:06>> Yes, there's still hope for me in a 10.

43:08>> Using Mike Clay's rankings. Just use

43:10field and eyes.

43:11>> Uh, didn't I just beat you by a hundred?

43:13I'm just gonna use that all week while I

43:14can. Eddie B,

43:16>> would you drop Drake May from Marcus

43:18Maria? I

43:18>> that's a nice segue into our next

43:20segment. So table that question unless

43:22we have more.

43:24>> Jaden Daniel's not going to IR. He might

43:25be back in a week or two. So

43:27>> he's going to practice this weekend.

43:28>> Yeah. So Mario, this isn't even a full

43:30season question, but yeah, you're right.

43:31We'll get into May soon.

43:32>> Yep.

43:32>> Gabe Mice wants to know, would you guys

43:34pick up Keenan Allen after what he did

43:35last week?

43:36>> I mean, end of bench fine, but I'm not

43:38moving.

43:38>> Yeah, I just don't think you're going to

43:39want to start. I mean, he did this a

43:40couple times last year and was very

43:42unproductive with a huge target share

43:43last season. And it's hard for me to

43:45imagine that it's consistent in that

43:46Colts offense. So

43:48>> I forgot I mentioned earlier that I said

43:50like there's one more quarterback that

43:51kind of has my attention this week even

43:53though I talked about it is Daniel Jones

43:54against the Commander. Okay. The

43:56Commander 11 passing touchdowns allowed

43:58so far this season. The problem is

43:59Daniel Jones has not passed the eye

44:01test, right? That's been a tough watch

44:03offensively. And Jonathan Taylor could

44:05easily Jonathan Taylor is like the king

44:07of Europe games. Remember last year when

44:08he scored that touchdown in overtime

44:10against the Falcons, he had like 49

44:12points or something.

44:13>> Yeah. Yeah, the Colts are I'm I'm

44:14interested to see how they progress now

44:16because uh they did go toe-to-toe with

44:18the Chiefs. I mean, what was it? 3230

44:20two weeks ago and then they played the

44:21Texans who got a little back on track

44:23defensively. So, kind of a fascinating

44:25team right there.

44:26>> All right, next segment. You're going to

44:27keep fishing or cut bait? We fishing for

44:29fantasy points still in our starting

44:31lineup or we cutting the bait, moving

44:33them to our bench.

44:34>> You guys are to be out in the water. I'm

44:36not though.

44:37>> I love being out there on the boat.

44:38>> Daniel loves fishing. This is your new

44:40obsession.

44:40>> This is my new hobby. Yeah.

44:41>> Would rather be hobby? both. Okay. Mine

44:44my uh thought bubble would be would

44:45rather be doing projections.

44:47>> Oh, Michael.

44:48>> Do you fish at all?

44:49>> I do not. I haven't in a long time.

44:51Probably 30 years. When I was a kid,

44:53maybe I went really don't fish. Okay.

44:55>> Been a very long time.

44:56>> You only uh like spawn fishing. Did you

44:59really?

45:00>> Yeah. I went out when it was raining.

45:01Yeah. My gosh.

45:02>> It was fantastic. I haven't gone down to

45:03the ocean yet. I only do lakes and and

45:05rivers. There's a lot of coes around us.

45:07Um a lot to do with soft plastics, a lot

45:09of jigging. You know,

45:10>> we live stuff. you know, this area

45:12that's obviously so beautiful in so many

45:13ways, including that we have great uh

45:15saltwater fishing around us.

45:17>> There is. We got some nice brackish

45:18water down towards the shore where you

45:19get the salt water and fresh water that

45:21meet and get some nice stripers up in

45:22there.

45:22>> I know all these words you're saying.

45:23>> Yeah, totally.

45:24>> Let's dive in, my friends. Are we going

45:26to keep fishing for fantasy points with

45:28Drake May or are we cutting bait moving

45:29him to the bench?

45:30>> Yeah. So, let's establish the premise

45:31here. You can sort of interpret fish or

45:33cut bait in a few different ways. We

45:34talked about this yesterday is it's like

45:37fishing means you are continuing to

45:38start the player. Correct. cutbait, you

45:41can delineate between cutting the player

45:43from your roster or just putting him on

45:45the bench and finding a serviceable

45:47option to replace that player. So, let's

45:48start with Drake May who's been under 10

45:50fantasy points and each of his first

45:52three games. If you're looking for

45:54reasons for optimism for Drake May,

45:56let's start with the idea that like

45:57there is nowhere to go but up. That's

45:58good, right? Uh on top of that, the

46:01Patriot schedule will eventually let up

46:03a little bit.

46:04>> I wrote that down too.

46:06>> Yeah. Well, you you can decide whether

46:07the next two weeks against the Bills and

46:09Raiders are good opportunities for Drake

46:11May or not good opportunities for Drake

46:13May. But more than anything, more than

46:15anything, you're talking about a player

46:16who last year nearly won the NFL MVP and

46:19was a top three fantasy court. That is

46:21the reason why you are continuing to

46:24fish with Drake May.

46:26>> Can I give you one more positive?

46:28>> Yes.

46:28>> He's pacing for 465 rushing yards. He

46:31had 450 last year.

46:32>> Yeah, that's a good good nugget right

46:34there. Um it is but for until he really

46:38turns it on, it's a week-toeek

46:40conversation. Yeah. Agreed. Right. Like

46:41there will hopefully come a time where

46:44Drake May just populates in our rankings

46:46as quarterback six, quarterback three,

46:48quarterback nine, and there's no

46:49questions asked. Right. But for now, it

46:51is a I have Drake May like a Marcus

46:54Mariota versus Drake May conversation.

46:56Assuming Mariota starts this weekend,

46:58that to me is a real one. I would be

47:00starting Marcus Mariota over Drake May.

47:02I know Mike's projection has that

47:04reversed, but Drake too talented to uh

47:07release from your roster at this point.

47:08>> Yeah, I'm not cutting I'm not cutting

47:10him from my roster. I'm cutting bait on

47:11him as a starter for the time being. Uh

47:13not playing him at Buffalo this week. I

47:15I'm not really afraid of the Bills

47:16defense. I'm just afraid of how May is

47:18playing right now. It's just not good

47:20enough. Uh so yeah,

47:22>> I'm looking forward to week seven. I

47:23think we got a month in here.

47:25>> Week seven.

47:25>> I know. And it's a ways away cutting

47:27bait.

47:27>> I understand. But well, he can be on the

47:29bench and you're starting another

47:30streaming quarterback. a starter like

47:32Mike. Yeah,

47:32>> correct. Uh they take on Chicago in week

47:35seven.

47:35>> Okay. Prior to that, I know it's Buffalo

47:37and then Las Vegas.

47:37>> Buffalo, Las Vegas, the Jets.

47:40>> I like honestly like those next like

47:42there's a chance that Drake gets it

47:43going over these next four games.

47:45>> Yeah.

47:45>> And then they take on at Chicago who has

47:48in theory that is a defense that has had

47:50points put up against him

47:51>> playing the past two weeks. Yeah.

47:53>> We love at Miami and then Green Bay and

47:55then at Detroit. So having Miami and

47:58Detroit in two of the, you know, back

47:59toback there, that's going to be a spot

48:01where that's a time to make sure that

48:02he's rolling.

48:03>> People are going to cut him today when

48:05they do their waiver claims or

48:06overnight. Not I would scoop him up. I

48:08would add on your

48:09>> schedule gets thin right now. Yeah.

48:11Sorry. It was fat. Now it's getting in a

48:13good way. In a good way.

48:14>> The the proper the proper thin. Uh what

48:16about Bon Knicks, guys?

48:17>> Yeah, he's he's been really brackish,

48:19you know. I was I was thinking that.

48:21>> What?

48:22>> He had a surprise 24 fantasy. He

48:25started. No, you didn't use it. Do you

48:26know what brackish? What do you think

48:27brackish means?

48:28>> Uh, I don't know. I just decided to use

48:30it.

48:30>> Brackish. Okay, that's all right.

48:32>> Yeah. What does it mean?

48:34>> Like, does it pertain to the saltiness

48:36of the water?

48:36>> Yes. Field.

48:37>> I was going to say, isn't it?

48:39>> It's where fresh water and salt water

48:40meet and you have brackish water. So,

48:42you get like a bunch of species that can

48:43live in both fresh water and salt water

48:45and they can kind of like co-mingle.

48:46>> Oh, so when Nick and Jaylen Waddle met,

48:48they were not brackish. They were not

48:50>> bounced off each other. They were like

48:52reverse magnets.

48:53>> We made it guys. You made it. Uh, this

48:56is tricky for me. I'll let somebody else

48:58start cuz I want to hear your guys'

48:59perspective.

48:59>> Uh, well, he's trending up. He went from

49:01five points in week one to 14 in week

49:03two to 24.1 last week. So, that's good.

49:05I mean, last week he was good week

49:06three, so it's kind of good.

49:08>> Here's the bad thing.

49:10>> Two rushing yards, six rushing yards,

49:12seven rushing yards. That's not what

49:13like Bo Knicks gave us value with this.

49:15I know he got in the end zone this last

49:16week.

49:17>> Doesn't it feel like that's 100%

49:19protecting the ankle from last year?

49:20>> That's what I'm wondering. Yeah. And but

49:22you would imagine maybe he gets his feet

49:24under him and starts to run a little bit

49:25more at some point, but we need it. I so

49:27I agree. I was going to get to that. I

49:28agree. I mean, the passing numbers last

49:30week were really good. He had 288 yards

49:31and three total touchdowns and one of

49:33them was a rushing touchdown actually.

49:34So, um,

49:35>> trending the right way, which gives me

49:37some confidence. I don't have him ranked

49:38as a starter this week as they're

49:40playing at San Francisco. Also, their

49:41rest of season schedule is tough.

49:44>> So, that gives me a little pause. I

49:45wonder if he can get back into the

49:47regular every week sort of backend QB1

49:49status like he had last year. Um, but

49:51that the bottom line is if he if he can

49:53start running more and I mean his

49:55supporting cast is better than it was

49:57past two years and he was QB7 both of

49:59those seasons. So there's a few things

50:01much like Drake May that give me like

50:04we've seen it. Supporting cast is

50:06better. We know he could run. Maybe at

50:07some point he turns it on. And again, he

50:08kind of did that without the rushing

50:10this past week which gives me some

50:11optimism.

50:12>> Also, it's not game script but the way

50:14that this unfortunately backfield has

50:16been very injured. They've had to rely

50:18on potentially not having their premier

50:21guys that they have wanted. We're on to,

50:23you know, second and third string guys

50:24now. So,

50:25>> I would I would move him to my bench, I

50:27think. But I'm not cutting

50:28>> I'm not cutting Bicks. I don't think

50:30last week makes him a QB1 just because

50:32he scored 24 fantasy points. I need to

50:33see it again before he's a tier one QB.

50:35>> Cutting bait shortterm as a starter, but

50:37I have confidence he'll get back into

50:39the the backend QB1 stat like Drake May.

50:41I think it's very similar, but May's

50:43upside's higher.

50:43>> I want to unsubscribe from this next

50:44one.

50:45>> I'll handle it for you. Chadarian Price

50:46for the Seahawks who has now fumbled in

50:48two of three games. He's been a

50:49non-factor in two of three games. I

50:51think this one can be relatively quick,

50:52guys. I don't think any of us are

50:54cutting him from our roster. No way. A

50:56first round pick, right? First round

50:58pick and it plays a position that's very

51:00hard to find. But Jadarian Price is cut

51:03bait as a starter for right now. We got

51:05to see him earn the trust back of this

51:07Seahawk staff. We got to see him go more

51:10than one game without a fumble. And we

51:12got to see when Zack Charbanet returns

51:14because while he's eligible to res

51:15return as soon as week five, you know,

51:17he could potentially return in week 10.

51:19Like there's no guarantee that he is

51:21back as soon as he is eligible. So we

51:24can cut bait as a starter until further.

51:26>> Yeah, that was a risk with him. You

51:27draft him, you have to hope he cements a

51:29big role because Charban is coming back

51:31at some point and he hasn't come close

51:32to that. Um, also guys, he has zero

51:34carries inside the five, two inside the

51:36opponent's 15 yardd line. So he's not

51:38going to steal touchdowns either. So

51:40it's been it's been rough. I agree with

51:41you. Bench player right now.

51:43>> Let's go to J. Oh, sorry.

51:44>> Do you think that there's any value in a

51:46potential buy low with how bad he

51:48started that there will be value second

51:50half of the year or at this point are

51:51you just guessing?

51:52>> Not if Charbanet unless Charban's ruled

51:54out for the season. I have a hard time.

51:55>> Yeah. Yeah. I I would agree. Like Zack

51:57Charbanet is one of those guys who's far

51:59from a star, but he's so good at all the

52:01little things. It's a little bit and

52:02this sounds weird because

52:03>> loves him.

52:04>> This sounds weird because this guy just

52:05put the ball on the ground recently, but

52:07it's a little bit of like like that

52:09Stevenson thing, right? where Raandre

52:11played every third down this past week

52:12for the Patriots. He started the game

52:13for the Patriots. These guys can't quit

52:15certain players. The Seahawks are that

52:17way with um Zack Char. JMO's up next. Do

52:20you want to Do you want to abstain from

52:22J Mo?

52:22>> I'm good with JMO.

52:23>> Okay. I'm good with JMO.

52:25>> I'm fishing.

52:26>> 10 catches. Fishing. Okay. You're still

52:28I'm still

52:29>> Yep. All right. If you told me that this

52:31is an offense, by the way, this offense

52:32has scored 30 points. You should watch

52:35the YouTube feed in case you're not.

52:36Every once in a while, we got some good

52:38stuff on here. Um,

52:40>> that's the video of the alligator.

52:41Someone tries to throw him a carcass of

52:43some sort. The alligator misses it and

52:45then just falls into the water.

52:48>> Jameson Williams, this is part of

52:49unfortunately what you get when you

52:51draft Jameson Williams. Field, you

52:52already talked about this. This offense

52:55has scored 30 points in every single

52:57week this season. He is on the field

53:00nonstop. The first three weeks have not

53:02worked out. He is a guy I would buy low

53:05on if someone was really freaking out

53:06about it because I think he is still

53:08going to get more utilized. Just hasn't

53:09worked the three weeks. I am fishing

53:11still.

53:11>> You guys know how this works by the way,

53:13right? If you're the person that cuts

53:15Jameson Williams,

53:16>> you cut him and he immediately scores

53:1820. That's the week that he does it.

53:20>> So if somebody wants to take it upon

53:21themselves to handle the cutting,

53:23>> we will gladly benefit. Yes. From the

53:25Jameson will someone's got to do it for

53:27us. You know, I play in a league that

53:28has uh some rewards for big plays like

53:3030, 40 plus yard catches, 100 plus yard

53:33games, long touchdowns, and I made Jam a

53:35little bit of a target in that league

53:36because I was like, you know, even if he

53:38has 60 catches this year, there's a

53:40chance that 12 of his 60 catches go for

53:4340 plus yards, that would be amazing in

53:45this league.

53:46>> Hasn't worked out so far. Keeping the

53:47faith. I agree.

53:48>> Fishing and just remember this. Last

53:50season around this time, you're having

53:51the same conversation. and he had

53:52singledigit fantasy points in four of

53:54his first guy four of his first five and

53:56five of his first six last year and then

53:58when obviously Sam Leaporta got hurt

54:00which changed things but it's not like

54:01it was just the second half of last year

54:03he's been over a thousand yards two

54:04straight seasons now he's a big part of

54:06this Lions offense the schedule also

54:08we've talked about this we talked about

54:09a lot in the offseason the Lions have

54:11arguably the easiest remaining schedule

54:13this season that does not really include

54:14this week the Panthers have actually

54:15allowed the fewest fantasy points to

54:17receivers so far but it looks good the

54:19rest of the year so a lot of reason for

54:20optimism I agree I'm keeping in this

54:22year.

54:22>> Easy schedule and the defense is awful.

54:24It feels like they're going to have to

54:25score 30 points every single week. So,

54:27>> it's it will be hard to imagine this not

54:30happening at some point.

54:30>> Agreed.

54:31>> Courtland Sutton is next. Courtland

54:32Sutton has been disappointing for this

54:34Denver offense. He has a total of eight

54:35catches through three games. He has wide

54:37receiver 73 on this season.

54:40>> He's been bonixed, right? This isn't

54:41Courtland Sutton.

54:42>> He's been bowed. Um I got to be honest

54:44with you, I think we're fine to cut bait

54:46from your roster here.

54:47>> You think so? I'm not going to go. You

54:48can bench him, but I think if you have

54:50somebody that you really need to add

54:51this week, you get a quarterback pinch,

54:53like I'm okay with it. This offense just

54:55has too many pieces. If we can hardly

54:57get Jaylen Wadd going, am I really

54:59expecting Courtland Sutton to get going

55:01week?

55:01>> Five targets, four targets, seven

55:03targets.

55:03>> Yeah, much like Bo Knicks though,

55:05obviously, same team here, he did make

55:08strides this past week. That gives me

55:10some optimism. He had a 23% target share

55:12in this game. That's where he was last

55:14year. He's at 18% for this season. So it

55:17was a point forward. He had seven

55:18targets, only turned it into 46 yards,

55:20but also he's third at receiver with

55:22three end zone targets so far, too. So

55:23he's still getting that goal line work

55:24that's been a big part of his game so

55:26far this season. So I'm not I agree with

55:29you. I don't want to start him right

55:30now. I'm going to have him down around

55:3140 this week. So a borderline flex

55:33option 12T, but I'm not going to cut him

55:35from my roster just yet. He's too good

55:37to by the way, all one more Sorry, one

55:38more thing. Oh, you

55:39>> like leading into the season, all the

55:41reports were just like about how this

55:43guy is in the I I hate to use this term,

55:46best shape of his lifetime, but like he

55:49was primed for another big season. So, I

55:51think the team knows that like they're

55:52going to keep him involved. He's such an

55:53important part of the offense. And I

55:55know I just saw there was we had a tweet

55:56up there that was like the quarterback

55:58loves Pat Bryan. He had two targets last

56:00week. Like they're still trying to get

56:01it to Sutton and Wadd. Uh I think

56:03they'll be okay. This is part of the

56:04Shawn Payeyton experience though is

56:06sometimes the ball gets spread around to

56:07a little bit of everybody.

56:09>> If you were in a situation you want to

56:11keep him, you said that you would be

56:12okay moving on. I'm just curious, was

56:14there anybody off of the waiver wire

56:16this week that you feel like if you were

56:17in a quarterback pinch or would Kenyan

56:19Sadi be someone that you think long term

56:21you'd rather have given the tight end

56:22position?

56:23>> It's such a bad week for waver feels

56:25weird to say Courtland Sutton, but if I

56:28think quarterback pinch would be where

56:29I'm

56:29>> quarterback would be where it's at. Yes.

56:31>> Okay. I don't know what the upside for

56:32Courtland Sutton will be right now

56:33because I I haven't seen it.

56:34>> Well, he definitely gonna fall into the

56:36category of every time you think you

56:37know which week to play him.

56:39>> He duds and the opposite.

56:40>> What about Kyle Pitts? Because it's been

56:42nothing but duds for him, guys.

56:44>> This one is wild. Do you want me to read

56:45his stat lines first just so we can talk

56:47about how Sure. Go ahead.

56:49>> Was is it zero?

56:50>> Yeah. I mean, if you were a doubter on

56:52Kyle Pittz, like even your best guess on

56:55how bad it would be was better than

56:56this. I mean, week one, one target, no

56:59catches. Week two, three targets, one

57:00catch for 15 yards. Last week, two

57:02targets, one catch for five yards. Uh, I

57:05mean, and that was with Michael Pennock

57:07back. How Drake Glennon do in that game?

57:08How do in that game? Pitts, nothing.

57:12Guys, here's the big concern for me.

57:14Last year,

57:15>> 88% of the snaps. This year, 54%. Last

57:18year, 90% participation. This year, 66.

57:21Last year, 23% target share. This year,

57:238%. Uh, what? Why? Why? Why? No, it

57:27happened. No, why is he not playing?

57:28Here's a reason someone else is getting

57:30all these targets.

57:31>> The only reason for hope is Hooper. So,

57:34what's your official declaration?

57:35>> Uh, Cup Bait as a starter. I mean, you

57:38he's certainly droppable. I mean, we've

57:39seen him dropped in

57:40>> several leagues already. He's already

57:42been dropped.

57:43>> Yeah. I mean, he's on waiverss in our

57:45knockout league. I mean, yeah.

57:46>> Um, so the the the reason for optimism

57:50is that

57:51>> at least Michael Penn Jr. pretty darn

57:53good last week, you know,

57:55>> and maybe he doesn't totally saturate

57:58Drake London with

58:00>> targets this like the rest of the

58:02season. I I'm trying to make a flimsy

58:04case here. So, I I think at least cut

58:06bait to the bench, but I agree. And they

58:08don't have like a clear-cut number two

58:11receiver that worson's barely a factor.

58:14>> No doubt. So, I'm don't get me wrong, I

58:15think there's a chance he can get back

58:16into the top 12, top 10 conversation,

58:19but right now, is he a must roster? No.

58:21I mean, again, we're we're even the 10

58:23team show league, FFC league. He was on

58:25waiverss all he was on a free agent to

58:27pick up all last week. Nobody touched

58:28him right Sunday and no one picked him

58:30up and

58:30>> I hear you.

58:31>> So, uh and well, obviously they played

58:33Thursday, but no one picked him up

58:34leading into that game. So, right now

58:35he's not startable. He's borderline

58:37rosterable.

58:38>> I'm going to ask I'm going to keep

58:39asking you guys because it's this week.

58:40I know it's a bad week. Would you rather

58:41have Kenyan Sadique on your roster than

58:42Kyle Pittz?

58:43>> Yeah.

58:44>> Uh yes.

58:45>> Yeah. It's hard to believe, but

58:46>> it's a conversation, but if if he's out

58:48there, you'd rather have Okay. I love

58:49that. Quinn Sean Judkins. Mike, you've

58:51been trying to roll with this dude.

58:53>> I thought last week last week I said it

58:55had to happen in that game at home

58:57against Carolina and it didn't happen.

58:59Six straight games now under 11 fantasy

59:01points going back to last year. He's

59:02averaging 3.0 yards per carry. Has

59:05caught all nine of his targets but only

59:0753 yards. He hasn't found the end zone.

59:0920 touches last week. You love that. You

59:11got to keep that guy rostered. But he

59:12only had 79 yards. And this is really

59:15concerning. This has to change or he's

59:17not going anywhere. He's not going to be

59:19startable anywhere close to startable

59:21all season. One carry inside the 10.

59:23Can't have it. He's a big running back.

59:25He doesn't do a ton in the passing game.

59:26He has to get touchdown opportunities.

59:28If there's a potential saving grace,

59:30it's not the O line which has been

59:31struggling. But it is the fact that the

59:33offense has been better than we thought.

59:35It's at least competent. Maybe he can

59:36get rolling. But for now, uh he is a

59:39borderline RB2. Probably more of a flex

59:41option. But I'm you could I don't I

59:44don't know how to word this because he

59:45>> The answer is fish.

59:47Fish in terms of a bowl, but I don't

59:50feel great about starting him. It's this

59:52is a close call.

59:53>> He's better than so many like the names

59:55we've talked about so far. You know,

59:57like that's he's still more valuable

59:59than like Kyle Pittz or Jadari. Well,

1:00:01>> Bo Knicks, you like I think to me

1:00:03>> Quinchan Judkins is a fish.

1:00:06>> Just it may not happen the way that we

1:00:08hoped it could happen this year.

1:00:09>> There's no way that I am if I drafted

1:00:11Quinn Chan Judkins unless I drafted him

1:00:14a game. Correct.

1:00:14>> Pretty good. Unless I I He's my RB three

1:00:17or four for some reason. Like I I'm with

1:00:19you. I gotta keep fishing.

1:00:20>> Yeah. I mean FFC I have Gibbs, uh

1:00:24Hubard, Jeremiah Love, and Judkins. And

1:00:26like Judkins was supposed to be a

1:00:28starter for that team. Like I He's going

1:00:29to be drafting. Yeah. Like 10 team

1:00:32leagues. You're going to I mean I got I

1:00:33guess I got a little man lucky with the

1:00:35hub.

1:00:35>> Yeah. You want a cookie for that? Those

1:00:37are four really good running backs.

1:00:38>> I was just reminding you that I beat

1:00:39>> I know you beat me really bad 100

1:00:41fantasy points. Last one here, guys.

1:00:43Kenny Gainwell. Part of this was around

1:00:45the idea that Bucky Irving might not

1:00:46play. Then Todd BS was like Bucky

1:00:48Irving's not on the injury report. So if

1:00:51Bucky Irving is not on the injury

1:00:52report,

1:00:53>> here's what I would say. I'm I I am

1:00:56cutting bait to the bench. Yes. Right.

1:00:59>> And the reason why I say that is even

1:01:00though Bucky is not going to be on the

1:01:02injury report, Bucky's got a history of

1:01:04going down.

1:01:05>> And so I am holding on Kenny Gainwell on

1:01:08my bench.

1:01:08>> Yeah. Terrific insurance,

1:01:10>> dude. He was awesome last year.

1:01:12>> Yeah. And you know what's wild? His snap

1:01:14share in Pittsburgh last year was 50%.

1:01:16You know what it is this year?

1:01:17>> 50 44%. It's not far off from playing

1:01:20time. He's just not getting the touch.

1:01:21He's not giving him the football at all.

1:01:23Yeah.

1:01:23>> It doesn't make sense. He's such a good

1:01:25football player.

1:01:27>> I wish he would be on the field more

1:01:28often. Guys, that was a fun show.

1:01:30>> Dude, are you okay, man? Like you got

1:01:32your freaking leg waxed into camp. Hurt

1:01:34real bad.

1:01:34>> I truly thought after one trip it'd be

1:01:37like, "Okay, wrap it up. Time to go on."

1:01:38>> Oh, no. I thought it was too. And then

1:01:40Christina was like, "Oh, no, Daniel. We

1:01:42have a lot of these to get through which

1:01:44was very fun. Shout out to Mina. Shout

1:01:46out to Zack. No, we're okay. Shout out

1:01:47to Q. Q put together an awesome that

1:01:49like the video came out great. Thank you

1:01:51for that.

1:01:51>> Talented video team

1:01:52>> and Mama Do has been a blast.

1:01:55>> Now I get to figure out what I get to do

1:01:56for the next one. Guys, thanks for

1:01:58hanging out with us today. Come back

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