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We Sold 10% of Neutonic for $6m. This Is Why.

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0:00So, Nootropic just raised $6 million at

0:02a $60 million valuation. You're probably

0:04thinking, why would they do that? What

0:05does that mean? And why should I care?

0:07Let me explain. First of all, who's got

0:09that $6 million cuz I don't. And in this

0:11video, I'm going to explain to you why a

0:12business like Nootropic would borrow

0:14money from investors to grow and expand

0:16into other territories. I'm literally

0:18going to show you behind the scenes of

0:19exactly what we're doing and why we're

0:20doing it. So, let's get into it. Let's

0:21go into some economics of selling a

0:2212-pack. So, for the first 2 years,

0:24we've sold something called DTC, which

0:25is direct to customer. When we

0:26originally created Nootropic, we

0:28actually thought it would just be a

0:29product that we sold. Maybe a couple

0:30hundred thousand units of a year, made

0:32enough money to pay the mortgage and

0:34maybe then some. And with our first year

0:35sales data, we knew that just wasn't the

0:37case. So, let's say that a 12-pack cost

0:39$17 to produce, and you then sell it for

0:4125. Most people would go, "Oh my god,

0:43that's great. You're making $8 a case.

0:45You sell a thousand cases, you made

0:46$8,000 profit." But one of the issues

0:48that we have to that is that we

0:49bootstrapped this business, which means

0:50we started without investment, and we

0:52all chipped in money to create it. And

0:54although this profit looks nice, because

0:55we only started with a finite amount of

0:57cans, we need to use the profit to

0:59expand. So, if we sell two cases, that's

1:02not even enough profit to create another

1:04case. So, we would have to sell three

1:06cases to make $24, which we could then

1:08use the money to create more 12-packs.

1:10But one of the biggest issues that we

1:12had in our first year is that we were

1:13constantly sold out. Because as we were

1:15selling product to manufacture more,

1:17there would sometimes be a 12-week wait

1:19just to get more cans. Because if you

1:20think about some of the big players,

1:22like Ghost, like C4, they're booked out

1:24on production lines for months in

1:25advance. They know the exact amount of

1:27products that they're selling and the

1:28exact same amount of places. We were

1:30just a newcomer that came along on the

1:31scene like, "Hey, can we print more

1:33cans?" They were like, "Cool, back of

1:34the queue." So, even in our first year,

1:36we made a few million, sure. So, you

1:37sell a million dollars in sales, you now

1:39got $320,000 to produce more cases to go

1:42into more territories to get into more

1:44markets. It's quite a lot of work to

1:45expand. Not to mention, if you're going

1:47to put together new products and move

1:48into new territories, you're going to

1:49need tens or hundreds of thousands of

1:51dollars just to allocate into stock

1:53that's going to be produced in 12 weeks

1:54before it's even sent anywhere. And

1:56quickly, it's worth mentioning these

1:57aren't actually our true can economics.

1:59I'm just making it simple maths for

2:01people to understand. And this isn't the

2:03only cost that we have. We've got staff,

2:06which now cost a fortune. I'll talk

2:07about the new hires we made in a second.

2:09And then there's even little things like

2:10travel. So, some of you guys might have

2:11seen some of the cool creatives in which

2:13we've done. Went to Las Vegas to sponsor

2:15a jiu-jitsu tournament. Went to LA to

2:17sign off some new products last year

2:18when we did the Breaking Bad shoot. You

2:20then think about all the camera men, the

2:21equipment, the shoots, the studios, even

2:24things like hotels for myself, for

2:26Chris, for my videographer. All of these

2:28costs add up. But to keep it simple,

2:29we'll just use these false can

2:31economics. Now, one of the other really

2:33incredible cool places that we've

2:35allocated our resources is we've hired

2:37some exceptional talent. I'll show you.

2:39The way you can tell also that I'm the

2:40biggest fan of this brand, you know

2:42is I've got stickers on absolutely

2:43everything. One of which being my car.

2:45It's been wrapped twice. Even

2:48you can say what you want, but we did

2:49very well with that Nutral guy. Okay, so

2:51it's worth mentioning I haven't had the

2:52opportunity of meeting all of these

2:54hires just yet. Then there's far more

2:55some of the talent we got. Nicholas

2:57McLaughlin, he's from Poppy. We had him

2:58in the beverage forum. Keep looking at

2:59his impeccable hairline. Big chance of

3:00that. James Cox, absolute weapon. Been

3:02absolutely key for expansion so far. I

3:03like to WhatsApp him from time to time

3:04keep him sweet. I'm worried that

3:05someone's going to poach him. Joe, who's

3:06formerly with Refined THC, another

3:07weapon. Yet to have any beers with him.

3:09Plan to do so soon. Patsy, recently

3:10worked on Dr. Dre and Snoop's gin. Yet

3:12to meet her. Another weapon. Harry,

3:13ex-Trip. Only heard good things. And Tom

3:15Barrett, former group CFO from JDI, one

3:16of our main investors. Met him briefly.

3:18Not sure we've done biz yet. Just

3:19another weapon as part of the hiring

3:20strategy. So, you may have seen recently

3:22that Danone just acquired Huel, which is

3:24the annoying drink that is on Gary Vee's

3:26show. And one thing that I hate is that

3:28they call it a meal replacement shake.

3:29And there are many reasons I could have

3:31a problem with that. But if you live in

3:32a world where you don't have time to,

3:33you know, eat food, there's probably an

3:35underlying issue in your life. But

3:36anyway, you sold for a billion, so who

3:37am I to say anything? You guys might

3:39have remembered this. So, Huel made 3

3:42million pounds its first year, then 9

3:43million, then 26, then 50, then 72. And

3:46when you're looking at the scale of this

3:48growth, we're looking at something that

3:49we like to call velocity. How quickly

3:51you are growing. And when people look at

3:53your business from a venture capital

3:54investment standpoint, they don't care

3:55if you're making money. In fact, we made

3:57money in our first year and investors

3:59were like, "Are you stupid?" We're like,

4:01"We're profitable." They go, "In year

4:02one of a business, why would you want

4:04profit when you could have allocated

4:05that into growing the business?" I think

4:06we had 100,000 pounds left over year one

4:08thinking, you know, we bootstrapped a

4:10100k profitable business. We were

4:12literally called stupid. "You should

4:13have printed 100,000 cans and given them

4:15out for free. People only care at your

4:16trajectory and the way you're moving as

4:18a business, not how much money you're

4:19making." Also, the more aggressively in

4:21which you can grow, the more you're

4:22doing your investors a favor. So, we

4:24raised at a $20 million valuation less

4:27than a year ago, and we went out to

4:29friends and family and people we're

4:30close to in the industry, they've now

4:32already tripled their money. So, they

4:33could have put it into the S&P 500 and

4:35maybe made 9% in a year, they put it

4:37into New Energy Sonic and they tripled

4:38it. So, if we can continue that

4:40velocity, we keep our investors

4:41incredibly happy, too. Although it can

4:43sound really ridiculous, initially when

4:44we were having calls with investors, we

4:46were thinking it'd be great to exit it

4:47for a couple hundred million. But

4:48considering we've got to a $60 million

4:50valuation, that number has changed. That

4:52number is now 1 billion. And we think we

4:54can do it. If you want to know the scale

4:55of energy drinks in Australia for a

4:57territory, this is all just Red Bull.

4:59Eye level is buy level. Cold can is a

5:01sold can. Uh Red Bull now branching out

5:03into other flavor iterations to try and

5:05get more market share. V is very

5:07popular, but a lot of people uh outside

5:09of Australia won't know what that is.

5:10Nothing better than picking one of those

5:11up on the way to work. Not had a

5:13Rockstar before, but the one of the

5:14drinks here that we're going to talk

5:15about is Ghost. So, Ghost Energy

5:17recently have sold for over a billion

5:18dollars. Well, their deal was around one

5:21and I think they've got another exit

5:22clause that takes it to about 1.6

5:24billion, which is insane for an energy

5:26drink. So, Ghost uh

5:27one of the main businesses. Let me just

5:28have a quick look there. Oh, look what

5:30I've been shopping at, Declan.

5:32Look, but don't touch. You're naughty,

5:33naughty. How much did Ghost Energy sell

5:35for? They sold to Dr. Pepper for $990

5:37million,

5:38but the remaining 40% is to be purchased

5:40in 2028. Wow, so that was a big one. And

5:43we're going to get into why these

5:44businesses are purchased. I've never had

5:45a can of Mother before, have you?

5:47>> Uh, no. Is that Australia?

5:48>> Uh, I don't actually know. Then, C4

5:51neutral bolt, uh, big business in the

5:53game. Uh, we know the guys that run

5:55this. Very, very good company,

5:56incredible distribution. We'll grab one

5:58of these as well. But, when you think

5:59the majority of drinks on offer here are

6:02energy drinks, it's absolutely insane.

6:03And as we're going to explain this

6:04video, one of the reasons that it's

6:06important we move into retail is when

6:07you're thirsty, you don't go to Amazon.

6:09When you're thirsty, you don't buy 12 of

6:10these online. I am a fiend for getting

6:12snacks and a little pick-me-up energy

6:14drink when I'm on the move. I find

6:16myself putting petrol in the car when

6:17it's not even half empty, just so I have

6:19an excuse to grab a good old energy

6:20drink. So, moving forward for our

6:21business to scale at the pace we need

6:23to, we will have to be into retail

6:24locations. Now, any of you, if you're

6:26from Porsche, could you help me

6:27understand something? With a manual, why

6:29would you put a cup holder here?

6:32Ergonomic flaw. Then, the only other

6:34place I've got it is over here.

6:39Which, when you're driving,

6:43you know, eyes on the road, crash, dead,

6:45burn, dead bodies everywhere.

6:47>> All right, should be careful with that,

6:48right? Cuz if you knock that with your

6:49knee, you're going to break it. When do

6:51you What What's your little go-to,

6:52Declan? And you're allowed to say it

6:54because we're not in the sale in

6:55Australia yet.

6:56>> I like the ice long black from Boss

6:58Coffee's. Plain and simple.

6:59>> You're not much of an energy drink fan?

7:01>> Not really, to be honest.

7:02>> How come?

7:02>> I don't really go into them. The only

7:04drink I would have is tonic. I wouldn't

7:04really go for a Monster or a V or

7:07any of that.

7:08>> See, I've always loved a nice cold and

7:10fizzy.

7:10>> I just I don't trust some of the

7:12ingredients in there. It's just too much

7:14>> I agree with your sentiment that there's

7:16a lot of, quote unquote, you know,

7:18unhealthy things. But, I come from

7:20growing up drinking cans of Dr. Pepper

7:22and Coke at school.

7:23>> Yeah.

7:24>> So, I know the carbonation isn't great

7:25for your teeth, but

7:27You know where your bloody seatbelt,

7:28mate?

7:29>> mate.

7:29>> It's me that's going to get the points

7:31for that, you know.

7:32Bloody reckless. I do love grabbing a

7:34snack on the move. I'm not even hungry.

7:37I like, uh, some of the reasons I'm

7:38grabbing an energy drink on the move is

7:39just for the comfort, just for the

7:41happiness. Do I need the 150 mg

7:44caffeine? No. Do I need the 600

7:45calories? Absolutely not. But I'll take

7:48it. Calories or caffeine, key to my

7:49heart. Put that on a t-shirt. Right, we

7:52need to talk about something very

7:53important. Some of you watching this may

7:54not have even heard of Ghost. And in my

7:56honest personal opinion,

7:58annoying that does taste quite good. I

8:00wish I could sit here and go, "Ooh,

8:01tastes rubbish." Delicious. Probably one

8:02of the nicest flavors I've had. I think

8:04we have a better product. I think we

8:05have a better brand. And I think we have

8:06a better mission. The majority of energy

8:07drink companies are just pulling on the

8:09lever of caffeine, and they just have

8:10minimal amounts of caffeine, lots of

8:12caffeine, huge amounts of caffeine.

8:13That's the main thing that they're

8:14playing with. With NEUTONIC, we do it a

8:15little bit different. When it comes to

8:16the product, again, Ghost has sold for a

8:18billion. So, what am I going to say

8:19about them? We think a smaller can is

8:22more advantageous. You are having a long

8:24drive, you're going somewhere, you're

8:25sitting at your desk, you don't want to

8:26be pissing all the time. And as an avid

8:27energy drink fan and drinker, there have

8:29been times in my life where I've got 2/3

8:31through an energy drink can, and I'm

8:32thinking, "Oh, I can't really stomach

8:33the rest." And I've got to chuck it

8:34down. We've also gone with

8:35evidence-based dosages of nootropics,

8:37which are supplements for your brain.

8:39But one of our key players inside is

8:40theanine. We put 400 mg of theanine in,

8:42which gives you a little bit of a

8:43calming effect. If you were going to do

8:45one rep max deadlift today, I might even

8:47think that the C4 and Ghost would be

8:48better for you. But if you've got to sit

8:49at your desk, got a long drive, lock-in,

8:51you've got a job interview, or you want

8:52to lie on your CV, I think NEUTONIC

8:53could be better. And when we talk about

8:55the mission of the product, it's not

8:56just about giving you energy. It's about

8:58enabling you to not only get focused,

9:00but sustain it. And for you to have

9:01something at your desk in the afternoon

9:03that's not going to be a crash, where

9:04you feel like you need a nap at 3:00

9:05p.m. And we're not just limiting

9:06ourselves to energy drinks, which I'll

9:08explain. And I'll be honest, this

9:09business did start as a bit of an

9:11influencer drop, which makes me shudder

9:13to the spine to even insinuate that

9:14Chris and I could be influencers, but

9:16we're now a fully-fledged beverage

9:18business. And last weekend, we had to

9:19fly to LA to go to a beverage forum to

9:22make the relationships and connections

9:23necessary for retail. So, let me show

9:25you a little bit from Beverage Forum.

9:26Here we are at Beverage Forum day one.

9:28Some spicy cars out here, Bacon. Uh,

9:30we've got Cybertrucks. Uh, looks like a

9:32Ferrari 812. Uh, the Rolls in front of

9:34it doesn't interest me too much. All

9:36right, fair enough. Oh, there's some

9:37interesting brands though. But there's

9:38no one working the fridges. So they've

9:40just got stock here. But all day every

9:42day Chris and I selling, promoting,

9:45convincing, educating. And it's pretty

9:47cool. I've had some very interesting

9:48conversations. Consumers, buyers,

9:51distribution, retail, logistics.

9:54>> Here's a question for you.

9:55Do you reckon in 5 years you'd have a

9:56course on how to operate a successful

9:58drinks brand?

9:59>> 5 years. The The Bev The Bev course. And

10:02I don't know. It's a difficult one to go

10:03into because

10:05I think unfortunately the majority of

10:06these brands won't be here next year.

10:08>> Yeah. Cuz they think all you really need

10:09is a good drink.

10:11>> And they won't learn that.

10:13>> You need a

10:14You need a machine to power it. A good

10:16drink won't get you there alone. And

10:17what Chris and I are doing is winding up

10:19the last 5 10 years of work.

10:21>> Why is it important we go to retail?

10:22>> This right here Declan, your chicken

10:24schnitzel sam, $9. Have you started

10:26that? I was going to say it's like at

10:27$9, £4.50. Pretty tasty. Is it good?

10:31>> Just healthier than a sausage roll.

10:32>> Healthier than a sausage roll. Like

10:33that. When you're hungry, you go to a

10:35server. You go to a shop. You stop. Was

10:37this on the way here?

10:38This is the reason we need to leverage

10:40retail. This is why it's the most

10:41important next thing because when you're

10:43a hungry, you do not go to Amazon. You

10:45might go to Uber Eats. But a lot of the

10:46times you'd rather have a worse snack in

10:48a short period of time. Cuz you could

10:49have got here and ordered something on

10:50Uber Eats, but then you'd have to take

10:52time. You'd have to go out and meet the

10:53Uber driver. Sometimes convenience is

10:54king. And one of our investors, Alan

10:56Barratt, changed my mind with this

10:57completely when he goes, "When you're

10:58hungry, you go to a petrol station. You

11:00don't go to Amazon." The whole way I

11:01thought about the business

11:03Who's Alan Barratt? Let me show you. I'm

11:04pretty sure I've hidden a Grenade bar at

11:06the bottom of the fridge.

11:09Let's talk about Grenade. Grenade is the

11:11world's best protein bar. And if you're

11:13from America or Australia, you may not

11:15understand just the levels that Grenade

11:16went to with this. And it may seem that

11:18I'm just obsessed with how much

11:19businesses sell for, but this is about

11:20making the point as to why this mission

11:22is so important for us. So Mondelez

11:24acquired Grenade at a 40 times multiple.

11:26So Grenade was bought for £200 million.

11:29That's a 40 times multiple on the

11:31company's 2019 profits of 5 million

11:33pounds. 5 million pound profit bought

11:34for 200 million. Now, Alan Barratt,

11:36great guy, but sometimes you'll be at

11:37dinner with him and he'll go, "James,

11:39you know when you get your helicopter

11:40and you get" I'll be like, "No, Alan, I

11:41don't know what it's like to have a

11:42helicopter or fly somewhere. I haven't

11:44got a helicopter, not yet." So, rumors

11:46have it that, I believe it was around

11:48when they exited the business that

11:49Grenade sold more chocolate bars than

11:50Cadbury's and Mondelez came in and said,

11:52"We'll buy you." And one of the main

11:53lessons I've come to understand from

11:55being in the beverage business is that

11:56companies won't buy you cuz they like

11:58you, they'll buy you cuz they hate you

12:00and that you're a disruptor and that you

12:01are cropping up in conversation.

12:03Someone's just going to come along and

12:03say, "We're buying you cuz we hate you."

12:05And at Newtonic, we want to be hated by

12:07everyone, except our customers. We want

12:08to be loved by them. Do you know about

12:09that? 200 million. Still lets me pay for

12:11dinner, doesn't he? That's a joke. So,

12:13Declan Sann, Poppy, 1.95 billion. Now,

12:16Poppy is a prebiotic soda, which is very

12:19popular in America. So, in essence,

12:20getting a fizzy water that's got benefit

12:23to your gut microbiome. Let's just go on

12:25a quick tangent here. For the record,

12:27guys, if I was to drink a can of Ghost

12:30and eat an apple, I would be getting so

12:32much more beneficial fiber than a

12:34probiotic soda. So, what protein has

12:36done to chocolate bars, oh, we'll put

12:38some protein in the chocolate bar to

12:39make you feel better about it, probiotic

12:41industry have done to probiotic sodas by

12:44putting fiber in the product, relieving

12:46a little bit of guilt and making people

12:47feel better about the fact that they're

12:49just having a fizzy soda. It's good for

12:51my gut. So is having an apple. So, if

12:53any of you were wondering where the

12:54money is coming from, we have got

12:56Newtonic investors. Alan Barratt, the

12:58one we just spoke about there. Got Dan

12:59Marshall. Got Kayla Itsines and Jay, Ali

13:02Marchon, Ross Edgley, these are new to

13:03it. Patrick Kidd, Cody Sanchez. We've

13:05got a real who's who. Mike Thurston.

13:07You're probably wondering, why would

13:08these people give you money in the first

13:10place? Well, one of the most interesting

13:11things is, when we invest money into the

13:13S&P 500, we are betting with that these

13:16companies can perform and keep growing

13:17to a certain amount, but we can't really

13:19influence that business that much. But,

13:22these guys can. These guys get to invest

13:24and then they're able to manipulate

13:26legally the share price with their

13:28involvement of promotion of the product.

13:30Let's use a case in point. Ed Lawrence,

13:32my YouTube sensei, if we go to one of

13:34his most recent videos

13:35>> Frame rate's a bit weird these days.

13:36>> Yeah, I did think that. Ed Lawrence, if

13:38you're watching, what have you done to

13:39your frame rate? There we go. So, Ed

13:41Lawrence here, well, looks like he's

13:42guarding a glass, though, can now put a

13:44can of Neutonic in his shot. I don't

13:45even think he's opened that, the hater.

13:48But, by putting the eye here, he gets to

13:50subtly promote and associate with the

13:52brand, where someone else might not even

13:53realize they've seen that. But,

13:55subliminally, the next time they go to

13:56Sainsbury's in the UK, they see the eye

13:58and go, "Ooh, I might try that." This is

14:00one of the many tactics we'll utilize as

14:02a business. Not only that, the cash that

14:04Ed gave us was tantamount to us being

14:06able to purchase stock to go into

14:08inventory, whether it be retail, whether

14:10it be other areas. Another thing that'll

14:12be interesting for you to think about is

14:13if you go to our store locator, which

14:15I'll put a link to in the description,

14:17every single place you see an eye is a

14:19store that's stocking Neutonic. So,

14:21considering we started the business with

14:23only our own cash, every profit we've

14:25made so far has been reinvested into

14:27producing more stock that we can send to

14:29more retail locations, so more people

14:31can buy it on the move. When you look at

14:32the scale of this, it's quite scary. And

14:34that's just the United Kingdom. Now, if

14:35I put in the USA Texas, obviously big

14:38for us, because Chris has got red-hot

14:39audience there. California second, and

14:41we're now expanding into these coast.

14:42But, there are areas that I've never

14:44even been to before that are now

14:46stocking Neutonic, which is crazy.

14:47That's just Dallas. I can go to Dallas

14:49and grab a can of my own drink off the

14:51shelf. You know how crazy that is? Then,

14:52one of our most exciting new products

14:54has to be the Neutonic focus pouches.

14:56The sales for these were pretty

14:57incredible. So, we sold out all of our

14:59UK stock in the first day. We've got

15:01tens of thousands of orders coming

15:02again. And I thought these would be a

15:04bit of a gimmick, like our nootropic

15:06toothpicks that you might have seen.

15:07But, especially early morning and late

15:08afternoon, there's sometimes a part of

15:10the day where I'd much rather

15:13stick one of these in the cheek than I

15:14would have a fizzy drink. These don't

15:16surprise me, and the velocity in which

15:17we're selling them is continuing to

15:19surprise me. These be back in stock very

15:21soon, hopefully by the time we put this

15:22video up. The reason this excites me is

15:24a bit strange. Alan Barratt, when he

15:25started Grenade, I remember back in the

15:26day, was actually a pre-workout. It was

15:28called 50 Caliber. Tasted awful. He

15:30won't remember me saying that. Yet, they

15:31ended up selling for hundreds of

15:32millions as a protein bar. We can

15:34remember Gymshark. Declan back in the

15:36day would have worn a Gold's Gym style

15:38stringer beater from Gymshark. However,

15:40they made a huge amount of their money

15:41from leggings. We aren't tied to being

15:43an energy drink business. We're tied to

15:45being a nootropics, brain health

15:46business that really has a mission

15:47around getting people focused. So, you

15:49never know, we could sit here in a

15:50year's time where actually we're going

15:51to look to raise a $100 million

15:53valuation at the end of the year, and

15:5460-70% of our sales could come from the

15:56pouches. You never know. The NPD, the

15:58new product development, has to be a way

16:00that you can pivot and understand what

16:01your audience wants. The Gymshark went

16:03from vest to leggings. So, Grenade went

16:04from pre-workout to protein bars. In the

16:06same way that as the vessels in which

16:08people will take nootropics changes, we

16:10have to adapt to that. These are

16:11currently sold out, but they will be

16:12back in stock soon. With the demand that

16:14we got from the first orders, we've just

16:15purchased tens of thousands of new ones

16:17of these. Now, an interesting thing to

16:19make clear here is, although we've sold

16:21nearly 10 million cans, and we're aiming

16:23to be at a $100 million valuation as

16:24soon as possible, I'm yet to take a

16:26penny from the business. Neither has

16:27anyone. If anything, I've just continued

16:29to put money back into the business in

16:31each round. So, my net position for

16:32Neatonic on paper puts my shareholder

16:34price at eight figures. I am seven

16:36figures in debt into this investment.

16:38And that's largely to do with the fact

16:39that I believe in the mission and the

16:41objective, and where we're going, and

16:42what we're doing, and what we're

16:43selling. To be the biggest fan of my own

16:45product is one of the best things I

16:47could ever want from life. And to that,

16:49I'm extremely grateful. Which brings me

16:51on to an important topic of how we got

16:53here. And I hate to say it, but we're

16:54going to have to be nice about Chris.

16:56Now, Chris Williamson, when we started

16:58Neatonic, he was at about 125,000

17:01Instagram followers. And now he's got a

17:03top 10 podcast in the world with 4.2

17:05million subscribers. I've always known

17:07Chris for years. I've been going on his

17:09pod since 5 years ago. So, ever since he

17:12was a Geordie man with a dodgy haircut

17:15and tash recording from his room, I've

17:17kind of known him before he was {quote}

17:19and {quote} big. But, I must admit that

17:21the relationship we have with Chris now

17:22is similar to getting in on Bitcoin

17:24early. The growth that he has made to

17:27his business and his reputation is one

17:29of the reasons the brand's doing well.

17:31Obviously, I play a part in it. But, now

17:33the amount of reach that Chris is

17:35getting with his videos, and the thing I

17:37spoke about, the investors having that

17:38bit of brand awareness. If I open his

17:41most viewed podcast with Jordan

17:43Peterson, 12 million views, two cans of

17:46Ntonic sat on the table. And, although

17:48that doesn't pay the bills, and it

17:49certainly hasn't paid mine yet, the

17:51impressions that this is creating for

17:53the brand into markets for people to go

17:54into retail, we're already seeing that

17:56in the US, in central markets in Texas,

17:58there is a certain run rate that retail

17:59shops expect from you. We are exceeding

18:01it without promotion because of the work

18:03Chris has done with this pod. My

18:04audience isn't that massive in America.

18:06And, the thing I really want to kind of

18:07drill home for people is the way we got

18:09here, I think anyone can emulate and

18:11anyone can copy. So, eight years ago, or

18:13seven years ago here, Chris set out to

18:15do something not that impressive or

18:18inspiring. But, what really was

18:19impressive was how long he was willing

18:21to do it for. Even here, seven years

18:23ago, James Clear, one of the biggest

18:24authors of all time, 2.3 thousand views,

18:26which isn't a crazy amount for a pod.

18:29So, although I give him a lot of

18:30and I bench him all the time, one of the

18:32main reasons we're able to leverage and

18:34grow to such a scale is because of the

18:36work that Chris has been doing for such

18:38a long time. And, whereas some people

18:39get into the beverage business with

18:41investors that have got huge amounts of

18:42unlimited cash, Chris and I are the

18:45perfect demographic for our business,

18:47our mission, our objective. If you look

18:48now, you have two young guys who are

18:51building an online personal brand

18:52through putting out social media

18:53content. Chris has to be locked on, he

18:55has to be ready, he has to research his

18:57guest, he has to be able to hold a

18:58high-level conversation for two hours.

18:59Myself, I have to be able to plan and

19:01strategize a YouTube video. Where are

19:03the scenes going to be done? What are we

19:04going to talk about? What cadence we're

19:05going to speak at? What's the call to

19:06action going to be? It's not often in

19:08business that you get to create

19:09something that is perfect for earlier

19:11version of yourself. So, I would think

19:13that here Chris and I are probably late

19:1520s, early 30s, and we were just two

19:17ambitious guys wanting to make something

19:19of ourselves. And this is the exact

19:21person that we are aiming for with our

19:22products right now. Whether focus

19:24pouches, cans, whatever it is. Whether

19:25you want to buy them online, whether you

19:27want to get them in retail in a store.

19:28And ultimately, we believe that we can

19:30take this business to become a

19:31billion-dollar brand. The only decision

19:33we have to make is how quick and

19:34aggressive we want to get there. And

19:35that's why we think it's better to

19:37partner with people that are beneficial

19:39to our brand that are congruent with our

19:40mission. And even if it means diluting

19:42the amount of the business that we share

19:43and own, we've already been in business

19:45for 2 years. We're about to launch into

19:46Australia. We're eyeing up Canada by the

19:48end of this year. It's about velocity,

19:50impact, stock, locations. Chris is going

19:52to continue to grow his podcast. I

19:53genuinely think he will be the number

19:55one podcast in the world. And I'm going

19:57to continue to keep doing my thing and

19:59riding his coattails and meeting famous

20:00people just by being business partners.

20:02Within the last 2 months, I met Chris

20:04Hemsworth, Jimmy Carr, had a dinner with

20:05the Mark Manson. That's it, actually.

20:07Only those three. There's going to be a

20:08link in the description to this video

20:10where you can buy or try Nootropic. I

20:11just want to make clear that wherever

20:13you are in the world, whatever products

20:14you try, my email address is

20:15james@nootropic.com. If you're not happy

20:17with the flavor, the experience, how it

20:19tastes, how it makes you feel, you let

20:20me know and I'll refund you personally

20:22from my own bank account.

20:23>> And I'll be honest with you, there are a

20:24few brands that I'm obsessed about. For

20:26instance, Lululemon, do the best men's

20:28underwear and the most comfortable

20:29shorts. It's almost like my uniform. I

20:30have no shares or equity in Lululemon,

20:32just love them. Another would be Eight

20:33Sleep, the temperature-controlled

20:35mattress. I get nothing by telling you

20:37that if you are not controlling the

20:38temperature in which you sleep at night.

20:40Mine stopped working at 3:00 a.m. in the

20:41morning last night. I had to reset it.

20:43Could save you from sleep divorce. I

20:44sleep very warm. Taylor is always cold,

20:47my fiance. So, we've always had that

20:49argument going on. So, there are brands

20:51that once I had a few beers, I cannot

20:53stop telling people how amazing they

20:54are. And I think we're one of those

20:56brands. Obviously, there's that delusion

20:58where you think it's my baby, so

20:59therefore, of course you're going to

21:00love it no matter what it looks like.

21:02But even just my obsession with branding

21:04everything that I can with Nootropic,

21:06even the fridge. This was bought for me

21:08because I'm such a Norse but even the

21:11branding on everything. And nothing

21:12makes me happier coming into work and

21:14just seeing cold Nootropics absolutely

21:16everywhere.

21:17And obviously what I'm about to say is

21:18just speculative, but I'm sensing from

21:20friends, from family, from former

21:22colleagues, even from people that I

21:24don't even think like me that much.

21:25They're like, "Hey, you've created

21:26something special." And that is what is

21:28probably the main reason why I'm so all

21:29in on this. In real time, I'm becoming

21:31that crazy founder. I always keep cans

21:33and pouches in the boot of my car. Every

21:35time I'm at the petrol station and

21:36someone stops me to ask what Nootropic

21:37is, I'm giving them stuff and a sales

21:38pitch on it. I've even got stickers

21:40made. This was competitive research, by

21:42the way. Even got bucket hats with

21:43Nootropic on it. If you thought that was

21:45too much, I've even got Nootropic socks.

21:47I'm sure every founder, delusional or

21:49not, has sat here and said to the

21:50camera, "I'm growing this to a billion

21:52dollars." But you know what? The most

21:53exciting thing for me isn't even the

21:55prospect of the exit. It's the amount of

21:57people whose hands I can put a cold can

21:58of Nootropic in. They'll have their

22:00doubts and go, "Oh, yeah, cool." And

22:01then they try it and they go, "Wow, that

22:03actually tastes amazing." They message

22:04you and they're like, "I felt great." I

22:06get a buzz from those interactions and

22:07those experiences more than any pay

22:09slip. Not to mention, the day that

22:11eventually I do earn a penny from

22:12Nootropic is going to feel quite

22:13surreal. I'm 2 and 1/2 years into

22:15growing this business. I've loved every

22:17single second of doing it. And it's cost

22:19me money at every single stage. Massive

22:21thanks to our investors and even bigger

22:22thanks to all of our customers. Uh a big

22:24thanks to all of you that are going to

22:25try it in the near future. And a big

22:26thanks for watching this video because

22:28even just listening to what I have to

22:29say about the brand makes you a part of

22:31the journey. If you have any questions

22:32about it, put it in the comments below.

22:33Bye-bye.

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