Professor Jiang: "They Will Fake The Second Coming!" The White House Is A Data Center │Jack Neel

0:00You wrote a Substack article in July

0:02titled Palunteer to rule them all. What

0:04does Palunteer know about the person

0:07watching this podcast right now?

0:11Palunteer

0:12what it's trying to do

0:15is trying to trying to take all

0:19databases and become the database

0:23to rule them all.

0:24>> Right? So, it's trying to look at your

0:29employment history, your school history,

0:33your health records, your police

0:36records, your purchases,

0:40your cell phone data,

0:43your um smart appliance data, like

0:48everything. and trying to compile a

0:53um psychological profile of who you are

0:57that is predictive, right? And why is it

1:00predictive? Because we just do what

1:04we've been doing our lives as well as

1:07what our friends do. These two things

1:08that's all paler needs just a record of

1:11your past behavior as well as record of

1:13your friend's past behavior. And with

1:16this two set of data pattern is very

1:19easily able to predict what you will do

1:22for the next 50 years. I know it sounds

1:24scary but most of us are like that. Just

1:29based on just a few piece of information

1:32I'm able to project your life for the

1:35next 50 years. I'll ask like five

1:37questions. Okay.

1:40Where did you grow up?

1:43Who was your father? Who was your

1:45mother? What do they do? Your parents.

1:47Okay. Uh who are your 10 closest

1:50friends? What what's your job history?

1:55And um what do you like to watch on

1:58YouTube? Okay. With this five piece of

2:00data, I'm able to compile a psycho

2:03profile on you. Why? Because of big

2:05data. because you think you're unique,

2:07but if I take a billion people and I use

2:11these five pieces of data to categorize

2:15you,

2:16um you fall into a certain category and

2:20the people in this category will behave

2:23certain way. So all I need to know is in

2:25this category of people, what are they

2:27doing at age 40, age 50, age 60, age 70?

2:30And then I'm able to project your life

2:32for the next 50 years. So it's not that

2:36complicated uh what Palunteer is doing

2:40but there are certain constraints on

2:43Palunteer's ambition. Okay. The first

2:46constraint is you need a lot of data

2:50centers because people don't appreciate

2:53this but why is it that these databases

2:57are separate? Why don't combine all the

3:00databases into one? The reason why is

3:03the way that computers work is when you

3:06combine databases there it is not a

3:08linear growth it's an exponential growth

3:12if that makes sense to you. Okay. So for

3:15me to analyze two databases

3:19and for me to analyze four databases

3:23the difference is not double the

3:27difference is maybe quadruple. All

3:30right. So, it's an exponential growth,

3:32not a linear growth, which makes it

3:34impossible to analyze too many

3:38databases.

3:39That's problem number one. Problem

3:42number two is

3:44if I really want want to do this

3:46correctly,

3:48I need to collect data that is pertinent

3:51to my database.

3:54Right? So rather than me shift through

3:5690% of useless data, I just need to

4:01collect data that would be useful for

4:03for my purposes.

4:05All right. So basically, how do you

4:07separate noise from signal? And the

4:10solution to that actually is to burn

4:11everything down and start all over. To

4:14rebuild site in a way that allows all

4:18databases to

4:21um assess your data in a way that allows

4:24me to predict your behavior and control

4:26your behavior,

4:28right? Just bring everything down and

4:29rebuild from from from scratch, right?

4:32Another problem is social resistance,

4:34right? So people don't like it when

4:37they're being monitored. uh when they're

4:40being controlled and when they're

4:41manipulated. So you you need to retrain,

4:44reprogram the population to get them

4:47accustomed to this.

4:50And the best way to do that is to create

4:51a religion around AI Jesus, right? To

4:57have a generation um of young people who

5:01didn't really know what life was like

5:04before AI and data centers and the

5:07control grid. They didn't know that the

5:09microchip in their head is actually a

5:11microchip

5:13um and not an angel talking to them

5:15every single day. Yeah. I guess a lot of

5:17Christians don't even remember their

5:19baptism. That's interesting.

5:22There's a lot of

5:24content on social media about people

5:26destroying flock cameras. Do you see

5:28that as a real issue or is that just a

5:32distraction from the phenomenon you're

5:34describing? I think the American people

5:38are unique in the world. I think the

5:41American people uh because of US

5:44history, because of the culture, the

5:46first and second amendment are very are

5:48very important in American culture

5:51[snorts] um and just because of popular

5:53culture, Americans tend to rebellious

5:56authority and that's unique in the

5:59world. you if you go to Canada, people

6:03are like really obedient. Go to Europe,

6:06pretty obedient. You go to um China,

6:11they're pretty obedient.

6:13The Americans

6:15um take pride in their independence,

6:18right? The sort of like the frontier

6:20myth, rugged individualism. So I think

6:23it's very it'll be very hard to impose a

6:27AI control grid on the American people.

6:30I honestly think that in the world the

6:33last hope is United States. I think that

6:36if the United States falls then humanity

6:38may be lost forever and 100 years from

6:41now um humans will never ever know time

6:46when we were allowed to have

6:47conversations like this when you were

6:49when you were allowed to think for

6:50yourself. when you were allowed to rebel

6:54against authority.

6:55>> So do you see flock as part of the

6:57system?

6:58>> Uh it's part of the system and uh the

7:02system is moving towards the an AI god

7:05system. [snorts]

7:06>> When do you predict

7:08AI will kill its first human?

7:11>> Well, it's already happening. I mean uh

7:14these algorith algorithms um are able to

7:18decide who goes to prison. And if you

7:21look at the algorithm, these algorithms

7:24are very racist. You know, if you're a

7:26black person, an AI judge is much more

7:29likely likely to imprison you than if

7:31you're a white person. Um, you know, you

7:35have um these

7:37um self-driving cars and they um they do

7:43kill people. drone warfare, a lot of it

7:46AI that that that's where Palunteer is

7:48moving towards AI drone warfare because

7:50that's the future of of warfare. A lot

7:53of these decisions like who to kill

7:56using drone strikes, it's made using AI

7:58nowadays.

8:00Um it's humans that have veto power, but

8:04often uh it's the AI that makes the the

8:07uh decision.

8:09But we'll never have a we'll never reach

8:10a time when the AI is completely

8:14autonomous. When when there's an AI god,

8:16it'll always be humans manipulating

8:19things behind the scenes. So the example

8:22is money. People think that money is

8:26just the um basis for society and it is

8:32objective and independent. That's not

8:34true at all. It's complete nonsense. The

8:37example is, let me ask you this

8:39question. You're a bank and deposit put

8:43a million dollars in your bank and I'm

8:45an entrepreneur. I come I borrow this

8:47million dollars to start a restaurant.

8:50Okay. Deposit put in a million dollars

8:53and then you gave me a million dollars.

8:55How much money do you do you have in the

8:56bank now?

8:57>> 2 million. The correct answer is 2

8:59million. Okay. But most people would say

9:00zero. Right.

9:01>> Right. People don't appreciate that

9:03every bank has the ability to print its

9:05own money by issuing loans. Okay? Like

9:09the bank um how it calculates things is

9:14uh each time it issues a loan, it's

9:16considered an asset. That's why the most

9:19valuable banks in the world today are

9:21Chinese banks. Not because the they have

9:25the most deposit of money. is because

9:27they've issued the most loans these past

9:2920 years to fund all these

9:31infrastructure projects in China. Okay?

9:34So, wealth creation is completely

9:37man-made. Wealth destruction, as we've

9:40discussed previously, is also man-made

9:42because the elite also destroy wealth

9:44through wars and financial crisis.

9:47Because if you're going to create

9:49wealth, you must also destroy wealth in

9:51order in order to maintain the illusion

9:53that wealth is valuable.

9:55Same with artific artificial

9:56intelligence.

9:58Do you really think when you ch put

10:00something into chatbt it's really

10:02generated by the AI?

10:05Do you really believe that?

10:08I guarantee you it's not true. I

10:09guarantee you like it's being

10:11manipulated by humans

10:13>> right

10:13>> somewhere in India.

10:15>> Okay. Do you think there's actual humans

10:17typing

10:18>> respons? I guarantee you. I guarantee

10:19you when um you ask a uh Chachi PT to

10:24gen you an essay, right? You ask him

10:27like, you know, write me a paper on

10:28Napoleon and the Battle of Wateroo.

10:31Okay. I think what happened was a human

10:36first wrote that and then is inputed

10:39into the AI model and then absorbed into

10:42the AI model and we can figure in a way

10:44that seems as though it was um uh AI.

10:48Okay. Okay. So let me give you an

10:51example. All right.

10:54Everyone thinks that

10:58language facial recognition is created

11:00through AI.

11:02It's not AI. It's something called

11:03supervised machine learning. All right.

11:05So, let's look at face facial

11:07recognition,

11:08>> right?

11:08>> How is computer able to differentiate

11:10among a million faces, right? You you go

11:13to the airport,

11:14they take a scan of your face and they

11:16know it's Jack and you're like, well,

11:18that's really impressive. It's not

11:19impressive. All All it is, it's

11:21database. It's a database search and

11:23sort system. Okay. So, I put a million

11:26faces into this database and now I need

11:29to match it with name. How do I do so? I

11:32turn your face into a topographical

11:35model. Okay. Now, to do that, I I I need

11:39to figure out the weights of this model.

11:43Okay. The weights are maybe your nose is

11:455%, your eyes is 2%, your eyebrows is

11:483%. And your bone structure is 2%. Okay?

11:51So, like a million weights. Okay? Right?

11:54What people don't appreciate is a humans

11:57are designing these weights.

11:59Okay? humans are the ones who are

12:01designing these weights and what the

12:03algorithm is doing is trying to

12:07precisely

12:08figure out uh what these weights should

12:11be right. So I make a guess and say okay

12:14uh I should be 2%. Well the algorithm

12:16through constant iteration like millions

12:18of iteration figures out it's actually

12:192.3382%.

12:22Okay, but I first gave it a range and

12:26then it figures out the precise uh

12:29calibration. Okay, does that does that

12:30make sense to you? Yeah, this is really

12:31important to appreciate. Chat GBD does

12:33the same bloody thing. Okay, you think

12:35that the answers um that that are being

12:38gen are completely uh AI or completely

12:41computer generated. It's not. There's a

12:44lot of human manipulation going on in

12:46the algorithm.

12:48um there's a lot of u human intervention

12:52to make sure that the answer conforms to

12:56certain expectations right okay now

12:59maybe it's 90% AI 10% human but it's

13:02still 10% human meaning you will never

13:05have a time when the AI is completely

13:09independent of humans have you been in a

13:11whimo

13:13do you think there are humans monitoring

13:15the whimo

13:17>> that That was what I was thinking about.

13:19It's that they cut that it was just

13:21drivers in India. Right.

13:22>> That's right.

13:25Right. There's no way there are no

13:27humans monitoring the Whimo cuz the

13:30liability would be tremendous. Right.

13:31>> Right. Same with the little food

13:33delivery devices.

13:34>> Exactly. There's got to be humans

13:36monitoring this and the humans are able

13:37to take remote control. So just think of

13:39these ways as drones. That's all. It's

13:40not that impressive if you think about

13:42it. M. So they're not producing the

13:44actual like text that you're getting,

13:46but maybe if you ask a question and and

13:48it hits like a safety rail, they might

13:51intervene then. Is that kind of what

13:52you're saying?

13:53>> So So I think the level of human

13:54intervention was vast in the beginning

13:57because like in order for the chachi

14:01chachi to generate essays, it needs

14:02samples. It needs a lot of samples,

14:05>> right? So it needed humans to actually

14:06write these samples and then uh the ch

14:09system is able then to generalize and

14:12then expand on that because quite

14:15honestly look school

14:18there are not that many permutations of

14:21assignments right right if someone sees

14:24a course in Napoleon there's maybe like

14:2610 questions that will appear as a final

14:28essay question

14:30>> I mean they spent hundred of billions

14:32billions of dollars developing this AI

14:34where do you think the money

14:35Right. Training.

14:37>> Yeah. The training the training models.

14:39Okay. And now it has to constantly u

14:42absorb more human expertise in order to

14:44to refine the model.

14:47>> We've talked about esquetologies which

14:49are ways different religious groups view

14:53how the world ends. Uh you said quote

14:57the Freemasons will create artificial

14:59intelligence in Jerusalem and this will

15:02become the world government. Do you

15:05think Freemasons are creating an AI god

15:07in Israel? So

15:10um there are different esquetologies

15:13and um different esquetologies are

15:15trying to achieve different things.

15:17Where they achieve this I think is not

15:20that relevant. So, before I thought it'd

15:22be Jerusalem, but now it seems more like

15:23it'll be Washington DC. Because if

15:25you've been following news about Trump's

15:27ballroom, um there's a lot to suggest

15:30the ballroom is actually a data center,

15:34right? Why are they digging so deep? Uh

15:37and why is it a lot of the contractors

15:39are data center contractors?

15:42Well, I think the ballroom is a data

15:44center.

15:44>> And why is this important? Because if

15:47the data center is under the white

15:49house, it's protected by executive

15:50privilege. Meaning Congress has no

15:52authority to inquire what the data

15:55center is doing.

15:57With the data center, you can now as

15:59president of United States have your own

16:01private NSA, CIA, and FBI. Really, you

16:06you can have files on everyone in

16:09Washington DC. You know exactly what

16:11each senator, each congressman is doing.

16:15It's it's it's it's like you you no you

16:18no you no longer need Epstein island.

16:21You have you have your own private data

16:23center and knows exactly the

16:25vulnerabilities and the weaknesses of

16:28every powerful person in the world who's

16:32building that data center. um

16:34contractors that have experience

16:35building um um data centers and I think

16:39Palunteer will ultimately be uh be one

16:42of the companies running

16:45um this data center. If you look at the

16:47major contributors to the um Trump

16:50Ballroom, you you can Google that right

16:53now. It's mainly I technology companies

16:55like

16:57like why would they donate to a

17:00ballroom,

17:02right? M

17:03>> and why is Trump obsessed with a

17:04ballroom? All he cares about is stupid

17:06ballroom. There's a war going on in the

17:09Middle East and he's like all he cares

17:11about is he needs that ballroom now.

17:14Supreme Court recently um uh said he can

17:18now build his ballroom. So, he's very

17:20happy about this. I'm not sure if you

17:22said this one or if this was something I

17:24came to, but do you think the AI god

17:29like we'll have a human face?

17:34Um, right. So again, Joe Rogan said that

17:40Jesus may come back as an AI, right? So,

17:44um, and we talked about the possibility

17:46that rather than have this fake alien

17:49invasion, you can just hallucinate the

17:51return of Jesus. Um, that I think would

17:54be much more

17:56uh influential and much more effective

17:59than you if you had a fake alien

18:00invasion. Uh, because there are millions

18:04of Americans who would

18:07see this AI Jesus as the real Jesus.

18:10They will not be able to differentiate

18:12the the hallucination from the reality.

18:16They won't even care. Do you think Trump

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19:41back to the podcast. Do you think Trump

19:44thinks he might be that? I think Trump

19:46knows he is that.

19:50So, um, one one person I think is very

19:53important to understand how Trump thinks

19:55is Natalie Harp. Natalie Harp is the

19:59woman who was in charge of Trump's

20:01social media post. Like what Trump will

20:03do is dictate the social media post and

20:05and Natalie Harp will type it out. She's

20:08called the human printer

20:10and she is fanatical about Trump. In

20:14fact, it was Natalie Harp who posted

20:16social media post of Trump being Jesus.

20:19Do do you remember that that post of

20:21Trump being being Jesus? That was

20:22Natalie Harp. So Natalie Harp thinks

20:25Trump literally is Jesus. And again,

20:28this is like basic human psychology. If

20:30I'm an 80-year-old guy and there's like

20:32this really hot 35year-old woman who

20:35every day thinks I'm Jesus and who looks

20:36at me like I'm Jesus, I think I'm Jesus.

20:41>> People are underestimating the impact of

20:44this young woman on Trump's psychology.

20:47Who is she?

20:49So to understand who she is, let's

20:52figure out how Trump

20:54thinks, right? So

20:58in the year 2016, who do you think is

21:03most beloved to Trump

21:06in the year 2016?

21:09If Trump

21:11um ha were doing things for a certain

21:13individual, if he's like, you know, I'm

21:16running to be president of United States

21:18just so that this person can be happy.

21:22>> Steve Bannon. No, no. I mean like like

21:25like who is most beloved to to Trump?

21:27>> Oh, uh Funka Trump.

21:28>> Yeah. The daughter, right? Right. I mean

21:31like and I I think you know just look at

21:33his comments

21:35um during um you know before he became

21:38president like you know like like you

21:40know how and he she he's always like how

21:42hot her daughter is right it's like well

21:44if I want her father I you know um was

21:48most beloved to Trump and I think

21:51there's part of Trump who's like I I

21:54want to become president because I want

21:56my daughter to be proud of me

21:59but And if you remember

22:03after January 6, Ivanker Trump and Jed

22:06Kusher ran away because they thought

22:09Trump was dead in the water. There's no

22:12way he's coming back from this.

22:15So, if you're Donald Trump

22:18and your beloved daughter at your

22:22greatest moment of peril

22:24decides to abandon you, I think that

22:28would be much more devastating than

22:30anything else in the world. Okay? So,

22:32that marked

22:34a low point in his life there. But there

22:37are certain individuals who refuse to

22:39abandon Trump. In fact, they would

22:42reassure him during this time at his

22:46greatest moment of peril. Okay? They

22:48include Miam Alison.

22:51They include Sean Hannity.

22:54They include Nile Harp.

22:57Natalie Harp during this time not only

23:03refused to abandon Trump, but she went

23:06out of her way to ingrat herself with

23:10Donald Trump. So, so there's certain

23:11news stories, right? So, this is before

23:15Trump became president. Okay. But

23:17Trump's campaign were at Bedminster Golf

23:20Club in New Jersey and Trump's people

23:23hated Natalie Harp. They thought she was

23:26a pain in the ass. So they basically

23:27didn't arrange a room for Ni Harp for

23:31that summer at Benminster. You know do

23:34you know what she did? She's like I'll

23:36sleep in the locker room.

23:39She slept in the locker room the entire

23:40summer.

23:42When Trump was in New York for a court

23:45hearing, there was no sitting for her in

23:48the motorcade. So what did she do? She

23:52jumped into a trunk of an SUV just

23:57because she refused to be away for from

23:59Trump for two hours.

24:04If you're Donald Trump, okay, and your

24:07most beloved

24:09abandoned you at in your darkest hour.

24:13In your darkest hour, another woman who,

24:15by the way, looks a bit like I Trump

24:19comes into your life,

24:22I think she now becomes your most

24:25beloved. I don't know. I think that's

24:27just human psychology.

24:30And if she loves you because she thinks

24:32you're Jesus and you are here on divine

24:36mission,

24:38but not just her, but also like Sean

24:39Hannity and Mary are telling are telling

24:41the same thing, right? You're here on a

24:44divine mission, you'll probably believe

24:46them. So when Netanyahu comes to you and

24:49says, "Donald,

24:51we need to attack Iran

24:55because otherwise

24:57they'll get a nuclear weapon and Jesus

25:01can't return."

25:03Donald, you're here because you're the M

25:06me Messiah bin David. You're Sus the

25:09Great. You're here to save the world.

25:12You're here to save the Jews. You're

25:14here to usher in the return of Jesus.

25:18And Natalie Harp telling the same thing.

25:19You're going to believe this crap.

25:22And the tie in with AI here is just that

25:27this gives Trump the authority to

25:30operate outside of the surveillance

25:32state that he exists in now. No, Trump

25:37is will become the civil state, right?

25:40because he wants a third term. And so um

25:44these are different esquetologies. Okay,

25:46you have the Jewish messianic

25:48esquetology

25:50which is basically the completion of the

25:52greater Israel project. Okay, and that's

25:54what's happening in the Middle East. But

25:56then you have the Freemason esquetology

25:58which calls for the creation of an AI

26:00god. These things are different,

26:03right? So the creation of an AI god

26:06means an AI control grid where

26:11you will need a monarch

26:14in order to usher in an AI religion

26:18around Jesus

26:20and impose it by creating a control

26:24grid. So you need someone

26:27who's crazy enough to want to do this

26:30and who's charismatic enough that

26:32millions of people will go with it.

26:35If Trump declared one day I'm the

26:38Messiah, how many Americans do you think

26:41will actually believe this?

26:44What percent of America's evangelical

26:46Christian? Uh a quarter.

26:48>> So at least a quarter and then all of

26:50MAGA.

26:50>> Maybe not a quarter, but like 10 million

26:51people at least, I think. Yeah. And

26:53that's enough

26:5510 million because they will now fight

26:57and die for the Messiah.

27:00You don't need everyone. You just need

27:02people who are willing to fight and die

27:04for for you. Is anyone against this?

27:09>> Well, okay, let let's just say we're in

27:11New York City, right? And we're like

27:13there's 10 million MAGA fanatics who

27:15believe that Jesus is a Messiah. And

27:18quite honestly, a lot of them already in

27:20their hearts do believe this. and

27:23they're intent on a revolution to create

27:25a Trump monarchy. Okay. And we're in New

27:27York City.

27:29What is our response

27:31to this revolution?

27:34To these fanatics?

27:37We're moving to Europe, guys.

27:40We're getting on a plane and moving to

27:42Europe. That's the extent of our

27:45um resistance.

27:48We're not going to pay taxes to Trump

27:49anymore. and we're going to write angry

27:51letters and we will no longer buy you as

27:54goods.

27:56There's no resistance to Trump. It's a

27:58joke. DC, how many degrees from the

28:01equator is that?

28:04>> I don't know. Uh do you know?

28:07>> No. I I I was curious because you'd

28:11broken down the Freemason esquetology

28:13and

28:14>> Yeah.

28:14>> Yeah. So, uh, if you look at the

28:16equator,

28:18um, Dallas, where JFK was shot, is 33

28:22degrees north of the equator.

28:25Hiroshima Nakasaki, also 33 degrees

28:28north of the equator. And then you have

28:32um the Trinity site where where they

28:34tested the first nuclear weapon, Los

28:37Alamos, that that's al also 33 degrees

28:40north of the equator. And what this is

28:43important is um they say that

28:46Freemasonry is obsessed with men being

28:50God. Okay? And how does men become God?

28:53Well, man becomes God by kill by doing

28:55three things. The first is to warp the

29:00nature of reality. That's that's that's

29:02what nuclear weapon is, right? You're

29:04warping the nature of reality which

29:06cause a huge explosion. Okay? That's

29:08number one. Number two is you kill

29:10divinity. You have the power to kill

29:12divinity. You lose your fear of God and

29:14you kill God. And that was the JFK

29:16assassination, right? Because in in the

29:18eyes of of America, a president is

29:20sacred. A president is divine. So for

29:24you to kill a president means you kill

29:26God himself. The third thing is to

29:29create life.

29:31And that would be AI,

29:33>> right? That's why you have this AI

29:35project in place because you want to

29:37prove that you are God. So you've

29:39already proven you can warp reality.

29:40You've already proven you can kill God.

29:42Last thing is to have the power to

29:44create life itself. That's artificial

29:47intelligence. And the reason the 33°

29:51north of the equator was interesting for

29:54all of those was that there's 33 degrees

29:57in masonry.

29:58>> Yeah. 33 is a secret number in

30:00Freemasonry. There are 33 degrees. Um

30:03also Jesus was supposed to have died at

30:0533. Um, so 33 is a very sacred number in

30:10uh Freemason esquetology. Jesus, was he

30:13a carpenter?

30:14>> Yes, that's right. He was a carpenter.

30:16That's right. He wasn't a stonemason.

30:18Um

30:22um so they don't actually worship Jesus.

30:26They worship uh someone else. And I I

30:29forget his name. He was supposed to be

30:32the first mason. And he built Solomon's

30:34temple.

30:36And uh Solomon had him killed because he

30:39was jealous of this man's um um ability.

30:45So um let me clarify to people what

30:48Freemasonry is. Okay. So a lot of people

30:50just assume Freemasonry is this secret

30:53society that goes back to the Knights

30:55Templars during the Crusades. And that's

30:58not true. Okay. Freemasonry is the

31:01religion of capitalism.

31:05All right. So, let me explain this

31:08because it's very important for for

31:09people for people to appreciate this.

31:10So, understand what's really really

31:11going on. But capitalism is an accident

31:15of history. For capitalism to take

31:17effect, you needed three major accidents

31:20to happen sequentially. Okay.

31:23>> The first is Calvinism

31:25and I believe in double predestination.

31:28So during this time throughout most of

31:31medieval Europe the Catholic church was

31:32in charge and people obey the Catholic

31:34church because Catholic church could

31:36determine who went to heaven and who

31:37went to hell and Calvin says nope

31:40Catholic church doesn't have that power

31:42only god has that power and god already

31:44at the beginning of time already decided

31:47who went to heaven and who went to hell.

31:48So Catholic church has no power over you

31:50ignore the Catholic church. Okay. And

31:53that this is called what what is often

31:54referred to as double predestination.

31:58But if you are a Calvinist, this creates

32:00a problem for you, which is like how do

32:02you know if you are selected by God or

32:06not, right? This creates a crisis of

32:08faith. This creates a lot of anxiety.

32:10And the answer they came up with is, you

32:12know, because God favors you and God

32:15favors you if you become very wealthy.

32:17So if you become very wealthy, then you

32:19know God has favored you. But because

32:23communists don't like to sin, it means

32:26if you become wealthy, you cannot spend

32:28any of that money, which is

32:29counterintuitive. Isn't the point of

32:31getting wealthy to make sure your

32:33family, your friends have a good life,

32:35to make sure you're happy? No, no, no,

32:37no, no, no. If you want to get to

32:38heaven, you have to make a lot of money

32:40and not spend it, which means you have

32:42to put in the bank, right? Okay, that's

32:44actually number one. Because they were

32:47making a lot of money and putting the

32:48money in the bank, this allows for the

32:49rise of the Dutch Republic. uh because

32:51the Dutch were Calvinists and they uh

32:54through capital investment they were

32:55able to create a spice monopoly in the

32:57East Andes. Okay. So the Dutch Republic

32:58is a second historic accident. The

33:01problem with the Dutch Republic is they

33:02have all this gold but they were with on

33:06the um European continent which meant

33:09they were invaded easily by the

33:11Hapsburgs and the Spanish. So what did

33:13they do? They move all their gold to

33:16England. This is called the 1688

33:18Glorious Revolution. The third accident

33:20is something called the Bank of England

33:221694 chartered. Okay. What makes this

33:24Bank of England unique is it's the first

33:26private bank that is guaranteed by the

33:29state. Okay. And so the idea is you put

33:33your money in the Bank of England and

33:36it's yours forever. So you're probably

33:37an investor in the Bank of England. The

33:39Bank of England would take this money

33:40and lend it to Parliament, not the king.

33:43There's a huge difference because a king

33:45if he dies or he reigns on the contract

33:48or he loses the war, you're kind of

33:50screwed. You're just you're just um

33:54investing in one person. But if you lend

33:56your money to parliament

33:58now,

34:01everyone in England, as long as England

34:02still stands, must pay you back at some

34:04point. Okay. So these three things is

34:08what enabled capitalism and the rise of

34:11transational capital. Right?

34:14>> Okay. So this is all accidents. The

34:17problem is that once you have this

34:18accent come to being and once this

34:20accent assume assumes a lot of power it

34:23now needs to explain

34:26and justify

34:28um its power. And so therefore what

34:31happened was transnational capital led

34:34to a rise of the freemasons.

34:37What is

34:39unique about the Freemasons is they

34:43believe that reason is God

34:46and this is unique in human history.

34:48Reason is separate from emotion. And

34:51this is absurd. It's counterintuitive

34:54because most societies, I would say all

34:56societies before the rest of cremation

34:58believe that reason and emotion were

35:00inseparable,

35:01>> right?

35:02>> You imagine the human heart.

35:05Okay? And it just it just intuitively

35:08think about it. You cannot separate

35:10reason from emotion. Why do they

35:12separate reason from emotion? Because

35:15emotion in their eyes was family,

35:19tradition, nation, religion, prejudice.

35:22What was reason? Reason was capital.

35:26Right? So when the Freemason said we

35:29must make the world safe for reason,

35:32what they're really saying is we must

35:33make the world safe for capital. The

35:37free movement of ideas, people, and

35:42capital. We have to have reason. Conquer

35:44the world to usher in paradise. All

35:48they're saying is capitalism will usher

35:50in utopia. Okay. So that's a really

35:53important thing that people need to

35:54appreciate about Freemasonry. That is it

35:57is the ultimate secret society that

35:59undergurs capitalism.

36:01It seems like every secret society uh is

36:04tied to central banking and capitalism

36:07in a way that's famous. Is that usually

36:10right?

36:10>> Yeah. So I think secret societies are

36:12byproduct of capitalism. Okay. And and

36:14and there's a very good reason why.

36:17Okay. So trust capital is anything that

36:20can that can move capital from one place

36:22to another. Okay. This includes hedge

36:24funds. It also includes European pension

36:26funds. It also includes sovereign wealth

36:29funds of the GCC. It it it just it's

36:32just any capital. Okay.

36:34These capital are competing for the best

36:38return on investment.

36:40And to do that, you need to solve three

36:43problems. Okay? The first is access to

36:45real information, right? Not not what

36:47you see on the news because that's all

36:49BS. Real information. Okay? Which means

36:52you need to infiltrate powerful

36:55bureaucracies. You need to put put

36:57agents into government bureaucracies so

37:00that you can you can have real

37:01information. Okay? That's number two,

37:03infiltration. And then you need to able

37:06to coordinate among these different

37:09agents in a way that allows you to

37:11maximize your return on investment which

37:13basically means coordinating a collapse

37:16of the financial system.

37:19Okay. So how do you accomplish these

37:22three things for secret societies? Okay.

37:25Because if you think about it all three

37:26things are illegal, right? H

37:29>> the first thing uh access of information

37:32that is spying infiltration is also

37:36spying but then you have coordination

37:38which is conspiracy. Okay. So if people

37:40found out what you were doing

37:43you would be arrested. Okay. So so you

37:45have to have secret societies. That's

37:47that's why you have so many secret

37:49societies around the world. And what we

37:50know is those societies that are most

37:53successful are esquetological.

37:55Okay. Why? Because first of all, desto

37:58is a script. So it binds people over

38:03generations.

38:05>> Okay, which is a really hard problem to

38:07solve, right? Because you might be

38:08hardworking in order in order to um

38:12protect the interest of the secret

38:13society, but your son won't be. Your son

38:15will just want to spend the money,

38:17right? But if you're bound by an

38:18esquetology, it means you can now pass

38:20on tradition, your power and tradition

38:22from generation to to to generation.

38:24Second thing is like you're now able to

38:26co-op the energy and dedication of

38:31religious fanatics,

38:33right? So now you're able to co-opt

38:36Christian Zionists. You're now able to

38:38co-op meic Jews because you're not

38:39interested in your money. They're all

38:40they're interested in is their religion,

38:43right? But you can use your religion.

38:44You can use your energy in order to

38:46advance your financial interests.

38:49And the third thing is um estology

38:54people are willing to die for it. People

38:56work really hard for their esquetology.

39:00Okay. And but does that make sense to

39:03you?

39:03>> Yeah. Okay. Now what's really

39:04interesting is this

39:07different people will belong to many

39:10secret societies because that is what is

39:14in your best interest. Right? So if

39:15you're trans capitalist and you're a

39:17billionaire, well you're better off

39:18joining 100 societies because that

39:20maximizes your chance of success, right?

39:23So the way to resolve this issue is to

39:27force your commitment to this society

39:29through social bonding, right? And the

39:32more evil the social bonding, the more

39:36you're bounded to the secret society.

39:38And that's why they have these rituals.

39:40That's why these rituals, quite

39:41honestly, some of them are absolutely

39:43disgusting. Some of these rituals

39:45require you to eat cannibalism. Some of

39:48these rituals require you to children.

39:51Okay? And again, I'm not saying I know

39:54any of this. I'm just saying like using

39:56game theory and figuring out in the

39:58world of transactional capital, how do

40:00you maximize your own personal benefit?

40:03Well, I would say first of all, you have

40:04to join a secret society. In fact, you

40:06want to join as many as possible. Second

40:08of all is these societies need to be

40:11esotical which explains why a lot of

40:14politics is is driven by esattology. And

40:16the third thing is to show your

40:17commitment and to force your commitment

40:19you have to engage in evil rituals that

40:24are beyond the human imagination that

40:26are so taboo that um you are now uh

40:31forever locked into into society.

40:34Basically you've signed a contract with

40:36the devil.

40:38And again, this is just game theory.

40:39This is just pure logic. I don't I I

40:41don't know any of this to be true. I'm

40:43just saying like, well, if we believe

40:45the world is run by trans capital, then

40:47how will trans behave in this world? And

40:51logically speaking,

40:54if that's how you uh garner coordination

40:57and win the game, wouldn't there be like

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42:18And logically speaking,

42:20if that's how you uh garner coordination

42:23and win the game, wouldn't there be like

42:26some group that creates all the secret

42:31societies? Like one group that has like

42:33all the control of it. That's not how it

42:36works.

42:37>> No.

42:37>> How it usually works is this. And I'm

42:40talking like how things are done in the

42:43real world. Okay. Usually what happens

42:45is this very powerful person decides he

42:49needs to start a secret society in order

42:51to advance his best interest. Okay? So

42:53he starts a secret society and he and he

42:55collects people who

42:59um he thinks will benefit his long-term

43:02interests.

43:04Now that they formed this group, they

43:07need to explain what they're doing and

43:10why they have more authority and

43:11legitimacy than other societies. That

43:14means going back in the past and

43:17changing the past to create a narrative

43:20that explains your secret society. And

43:23that's why a lot of Freemasons say we go

43:25back to the time of the Knights Templars

43:28because in that world the older you are

43:30the more legitimacy you have even though

43:32the Knights Templars have absolutely

43:34nothing to do with the Freemasons. Okay.

43:37So and then you have to create rituals

43:40to bind everyone together.

43:43And then you you you need to create

43:44dietes or gods to

43:48uh compel you into action. Okay? So

43:53another way of saying this is if I gave

43:56you a million dollars and I said, "Jack,

43:58I want you to take a gun and shoot me in

44:00the head." Well, you couldn't do it.

44:04You think you could do it because it's a

44:06million dollars, but you can't actually

44:07do it. Okay? When the time comes, if the

44:12there's actually a gun in your head and

44:13you have to shoot me in the head, even

44:15though no one knows and we're all

44:17private and no one will ever know you

44:18shot me in the head, you can't do it

44:19because it goes against human

44:21psychology.

44:22But

44:24if you believe Satan

44:28was putting a gun to your head and

44:31telling you say and telling you, you

44:33either uh shoot me or I'll shoot you,

44:36you'll do it. So it's very interesting

44:39how human psychology works. Right.

44:41Right. You need the fear of God to

44:45compel you into action that maximize

44:48your benefit which um goes against uh

44:53human conditioning.

44:55Right. You have to be able to sin and

44:57how and how you able to sin because God

44:59told you to sin.

45:02Right. Right. So imagine the power of

45:04people who are able to at any point just

45:05take a gun and shoot their opponent in

45:08the head.

45:12You once drew the 33 degrees of

45:15Freemasonry and said every level gets a

45:18bigger secret.

45:20What's the final secret of reality that

45:22only 33rd degree Masons learn? Yeah,

45:25that's a great question. Um the final

45:28secret is this. We create our own

45:30reality. All reality is just a a

45:33hallucination. You control what people

45:36believe. You control reality itself.

45:40That's the great secret. This is the

45:42great secret, greatest secret in the

45:44universe. Everything is a hallucination.

45:47Reality is what we perceive it to be.

45:50There's nothing beyond our imagination.

45:53There's nothing independent of our

45:54imagination. God is also within our

45:56imagination.

45:59And do you think

46:01the lie is different at every level?

46:03Like is there a secret above that

46:05secret?

46:07Yeah. So um why there are 33 degrees is

46:13um most people cannot

46:18appreciate or understand that reality

46:22only exists in their own mind. That

46:23would drive a lot of people crazy. Okay.

46:25Okay. So you have to be slowly initiated

46:27into

46:28this secret. Okay. So again using game

46:31theory. [snorts] Um let's talk about how

46:34we would differentiate

46:36um the people. Okay. Well at the most

46:38simple level all we're telling people is

46:41we're here to do good. We're here we're

46:44here to help society. We're help we're

46:46here to help others. Okay. This is like

46:47the majority of people 90% of Freemasons

46:49believe this because this this is like

46:50the lower level. Okay.

46:52Um second layer would be we can act to

46:59better influence society. We have a

47:01responsibility to influence society. So

47:03rather than just be good, let's try to

47:05make the world a better place. Okay, we

47:07need to coordinate. We need to conspire

47:09the ends just by the means. Okay, that's

47:11the second layer. The third layer is um

47:17there is no reality.

47:19There just isn't. uh it's all just a

47:22hallucination

47:24and the final layer is but that means we

47:27can become God. Our mission is to become

47:29God itself. Okay. So this is a very

47:33simplistic thing. Okay. Obviously there

47:35are lots of nuances and there are lots

47:39more grades than this but but I would

47:41say this is how it it should work. Okay.

47:44just using logic,

47:46right? And again, I would say the vast

47:49majority of people are stuck in the top

47:53two layers, right? If if you're just a

47:55normal person, you're like, I I want to

47:57do good in the world. If you're

47:58ambitious, you're like, oh, you know

47:59what? I can uh work with others to

48:03create a better world, right?

48:06And then yes you have uh some people who

48:10are like who are very intelligent and

48:12like who can be taught that reality is

48:13an illusion and then at the very top

48:17that we can become God itself. It takes

48:19a special breed to to actually believe

48:21that right

48:24and they're filtered according to their

48:25capacity to understand the different

48:27levels and that's why Freemasonry is so

48:29effective.

48:31When I've heard you speak about this

48:33concept, uh, I've always been confused

48:36on

48:38exactly what your stance is. Do you

48:41literally believe magic is real?

48:46Um, how do you define magic? Everything

48:49outside of like

48:52mimetic influence,

48:55you can turn this into like snap your

48:58fingers and alter reality. Okay. Yeah.

49:02Money, right? Money is a piece of paper

49:05and for a reason, everyone believes

49:07there's value to it. So much value that

49:10I'm willing to sacrifice my entire life

49:12to obtaining it. Right? So much so that

49:16I'm willing to get up at 5:00 in the

49:18morning,

49:20um, leave my children, drive two hours,

49:23and work at work work at a job I hate in

49:26order to obtain as much as possible.

49:28That's magic. That's alchemy. That's

49:30like literally alchemy because they they

49:32take a paper and they turn into gold.

49:35But but past that, do you believe

49:39anything like that? So the magic that a

49:42lot of people practice that I think has

49:43most legitimacy is called manifestation.

49:46Okay. So if you believe that reality is

49:49an illusion and everything is a

49:52projection of our imagination, then what

49:54you really believe is that the universe

49:57is conscious. Okay. So, our bodies, like

50:02when I see you, when you see me, the

50:04bodies are just a husk. They're just an

50:07embodiment. But who really are are our

50:10consciousness that controls this body.

50:13Our consciousness exists in in

50:15dimensions across the universe.

50:20And because of that, if I'm able to

50:23control my conscious in a way, it

50:26changes the fabric of the universe in a

50:29way that uh seeps down into our reality

50:33and allows me to achieve certain things

50:35I want to achieve in this reality.

50:38Right? Okay. So, let let me give you an

50:41example of this. How do you live

50:44forever? Okay. How do you live forever?

50:48And we traditionally understood living

50:51forever just means ch genetic therapy,

50:54right? Just um maybe changing the blood

50:59or

51:00um doing more exercises, right? So

51:02person like Brian Johnson um is really

51:05into this. That's completely the wrong

51:07approach because if you believe that

51:11where ultimate consciousness then the

51:13trick is to

51:15um create a conscious level so that you

51:18can be trapped here forever. Right? So

51:20the example I use is George RR Martin.

51:23>> [snorts]

51:23>> He wrote the Game of Thrones um books

51:27and millions of people in United States

51:29literally get up in the morning and ask

51:32themselves when will George RR Martin

51:36finish the damn series. He promised us

51:39Winds of Winter. It hasn't come yet.

51:41Okay, there are literally millions of

51:43Americans who all they want is for

51:46George Martin to finish a damn book.

51:49Okay. So their consciousness calls for

51:52George's consciousness to finish the

51:55book. Okay. So there's this direct link.

52:00In that case you have to you have to ask

52:02yourself a question which is like will

52:04George R. Martin ever die? Because death

52:07means your consciousness leaves this

52:08world.

52:10But if there are millions who are

52:14trapping you in this world will you ever

52:17die? Will will you ever literally die?

52:20And my

52:23um theory is that he won't die. Okay,

52:27you should go interview George R.

52:28Martin, okay? And the first thing you

52:29will discover about this guy is he's not

52:32that healthy, man. He is pretty fat and

52:36he has a terrible lifestyle, but he's

52:38pretty energetic and he's pretty happy.

52:42So, how to explain that? Another person

52:45is Donald Trump. Donald Trump eats

52:47literally eats cheeseburgers every

52:49single day.

52:51And like the worst job in the world in

52:54terms in terms of health is being

52:55president of the United States. Look at

52:57Obama in his eight years. The guy a like

52:5950 years being president of the United

53:01States, right? Like being president of

53:02the United States is the most stressful

53:05job in the world. And it it it kills

53:07you. It ages you. It stresses you out.

53:11Donald Trump. Um, the guy [laughter]

53:16does a press conference every single day

53:20and he's always doing too social.

53:23He is not a healthy guy. So, where does

53:25his energy come from? Why is he so

53:27energetic? The collective. It doesn't

53:30make any sense from a material

53:33perspective, right? But if you believe

53:35that the universe is conscious and we're

53:37all just consciousness and the fact that

53:41we are paying so much attention to

53:43Donald Trump

53:45means we're actually giving him our

53:48energy

53:50and that's what uh makes him so

53:52energetic. But if you extend this theory

53:54even more

53:57with millions of people around the world

53:59and maybe like hundreds of millions of

54:01people all around the world, every day

54:02they get up and it's like, "Oh my god,

54:04what did Donald Trump do today?" The

54:06fact that so much consciousness is

54:08converging on one person

54:11and this has never happened before in

54:13human history, right? And what is the

54:15convergence of all imaginations? It's

54:17God, right? All right. So, it's entirely

54:19possible Donald Trump lives forever and

54:21he's president of the United States for

54:22the next 20, 30 years. That is possible

54:25if we believe that magic is real and the

54:28universe is conscious. It's perfectly

54:31possible. I'm not saying I'm not going

54:33to say it's going to happen, but I would

54:35not be surprised if Donald Trump gets a

54:38third term and a fourth term. I just

54:39wouldn't be.

54:40>> Third term, fourth term. You think he'll

54:41be like a Putin type?

54:44>> No. No. I think if Trump gets a third

54:46term, it will radically change the

54:49United States and the world forever.

54:52Okay. So, uh using game theory, I can

54:56predict how he will behave in his third

54:58term even though he himself has not

55:01imagined it. Even though no one arounds

55:03him believes uh he'll get a third term

55:05and no one's really thought about what a

55:07third term would look like. Okay, but I

55:09I will say he'll do three things because

55:10that's his game theory. Okay, the first

55:12thing is he will have his own private

55:14army.

55:15um he will have special forces ICE very

55:17loyal to him and only him okay he'll

55:20become the imperial presidency that

55:22makes sense right because there will be

55:23a lot of domestic opposition towards him

55:25so he hell of his own army to protect

55:28him okay that's number one number two is

55:30he will colonize all of North America

55:32and develop those develop up the spoils

55:34okay so like it's a way to relieve

55:36domestic opposition so what's a way to

55:39get Wall Street and the multinationals

55:41off your back you give the Alberta tar

55:43sense okay you're like Hey, let's take

55:45over Canada because the Canadians are

55:47useless anyway. And we'll develop all

55:50the land, the water amongst ourselves,

55:53okay? And you can do that with

55:54Greenland, Iceland, Mexico,

55:58Colombia,

55:59Latin America, Cuba. Okay? Just give it

56:02to your friends. Number three, which is

56:04the most important, is he will have a

56:07come to Jesus moment where he recognizes

56:11that I should not be friends of Israel.

56:14Israel is our enemy. Um, and we United

56:18States must become a Christian nation to

56:20be ruled by Jesus. Okay? Let Jesus be

56:24our God and Donald Trump will just be

56:27his representative on earth. And so,

56:30Christianity will become the dominant

56:31religion of the United States.

56:34Is there any secret society that

56:36believes Israel, the promised land, is

56:40in America?

56:41>> Oh, yeah, sure. Absolutely. The Mormons,

56:44right? Yeah. There are lots of um

56:46societies that that believe like America

56:48is a new Jerusalem. Does that tie into

56:50this thesis, you think?

56:51>> Yes, absolutely. Because that's that's

56:53how they see Donald Trump as someone who

56:55would usher in a new Jerusalem.

56:57Right. So the Puritans when they came

56:59over to United States it was because

57:00they saw the United States as a new

57:02Jerusalem. You know people don't

57:04appreciate this but like it was actually

57:06very hard to get people from England to

57:09come to United States. They tried this

57:11many times and all that happened was

57:13they just starve to death because the

57:15winters are really cold and they really

57:18didn't know how to um manipulate the

57:21land. Okay. The breakthrough were the

57:22Puritans. Why? Because they came

57:24religious mission. They were willing to

57:26endure all the hardship, all the pain

57:29because they thought this was a new

57:30Jerusalem. God sent me here to suffer

57:33all this so that one day I can build the

57:36new Jerusalem. That sounds like

57:38something I should ask about. Is there

57:40any other part of that that's important

57:41to you?

57:43Um well, these are the founders of the

57:45United States. I think that's very

57:46important. Right.

57:48>> And so I would say like the United

57:50States has always had two competing

57:52visions. Okay. The first vision is

57:54United States as a new Jerusalem. The

57:56second competing vision is United States

57:57as the fulfillment of the enlightenment

57:59project as the place where

58:02multiculturalism, liberalism, science

58:04can thrive and I think we've gone to one

58:09extreme which enlightenment project uh

58:13which often means that we will now shift

58:16over to the other extreme which is

58:18United States as a new Jerusalem. But

58:20that's why I'm almost certain that

58:22United States will eventually become a

58:24theocracy.

58:26>> So, professor, for those that don't

58:28know, you've left your school in China,

58:32and have you left the country?

58:35>> Um, I want to leave the country, but my

58:37my wife and children are still there.

58:39Yeah.

58:40>> I'm curious. Our last conversation

58:42didn't take place in the States. Is

58:44there anything that you can say now that

58:48you're in America that you can talk

58:49about? First of all,

58:53um I think America is heading towards an

58:57abrupt change. I I think it's very hard

59:00to sustain the way things are in United

59:02States. Uh I think that Skid Row um may

59:07be the future of the United States. I

59:09think Rat utopia um might be the future.

59:12things are very pessimistic for the

59:16United States and for the uh world.

59:21Professor, you're one of the only

59:22forecasters online that I've ever heard

59:24admit this. You said, "I'm no longer an

59:26observer. I'm a player."

59:29Kind of implying that your predictions

59:32matter a bit.

59:33>> Yeah.

59:34Has anyone ever tried to influence your

59:36predictions?

59:37>> Yeah, that's a really good question. Um,

59:39and you would think that um there'll be

59:43lots of people who try to influence my

59:45predictions

59:47and uh especially the Chinese government

59:50and uh I've often talked to my wife

59:52about this whether or not you know the

59:54Ministry of State Security, the Chinese

59:57CIA, they'll come and they'll try to

59:59co-opt me, you know, like maybe like a

1:00:01honeypot operation or some sort of

1:00:04blackmail or maybe some bribery. I I

1:00:06love I would love it if they came and

1:00:08try to bribe me, you know. My my

1:00:10[laughter] my wife said, "Uh, no honey,

1:00:13they won't come because they know you're

1:00:14an asshole." Um, I don't really

1:00:18socialize in China. So, usually how I

1:00:21think these things work is, and again,

1:00:23this is just human psychology. Let's

1:00:26just say I'm an agent. I'm a special

1:00:29agent and I want to co-opt you, right?

1:00:32Well, I have to ask myself, how do I

1:00:36personally benefit from working with

1:00:39you? Right? So, not only do I need to

1:00:42co-op you easily, but we need to go in

1:00:44business together where we both benefit

1:00:47and then it's worth my while to come and

1:00:49co-op you.

1:00:52Otherwise,

1:00:54uh what's the point? To protect the

1:00:56national interest, to promote Chinese

1:00:57interest, who cares, right? Right. So

1:01:01that's that's the issue I face where

1:01:05um it's not clear to these agents around

1:01:08the world whether they're Mossad or KGB,

1:01:13Russia or China or United States whether

1:01:16or not I can be co-opted and how to

1:01:19co-opt me and what the benefit would be

1:01:21in co-opting me.

1:01:23Uh because um uh you may know this, but

1:01:28I don't monetize my YouTube channel,

1:01:30>> right?

1:01:31>> So I basically I I don't know how much

1:01:33my YouTube channel could generate. But

1:01:35if I mon if I had monetized my YouTube

1:01:38channel this past year, I'm pretty sure

1:01:40I would have made hundreds of thousands

1:01:41of dollars, okay? Because some some of

1:01:43my videos get millions of views.

1:01:44>> Millions of dollars, I'd say,

1:01:46>> possibly. But I've turned it down,

1:01:47right? So if you're a special agent,

1:01:49you're like, "Wait a minute here. This

1:01:50guy just told YouTube he doesn't want

1:01:53these millions of dollars. What can I

1:01:55possibly offer him to

1:01:58entice him to like do what I want him to

1:02:00do, right?

1:02:02>> But I mean like I don't think I want

1:02:04anything from anyone. That's that that's

1:02:07a problem. Like I'm not shown I'm

1:02:10interested in anything from uh anyone.

1:02:13You're telling me some dumb 20-year-old

1:02:15hasn't been like, "Professor Jane, can

1:02:17you predict this so I can make some

1:02:19money on Poly Market?" Like, someone

1:02:20hasn't messaged you. I mean, some have

1:02:23asked me and I said, "I don't do that

1:02:24sort of stuff." Uh, because I don't do

1:02:27the like short-term

1:02:29stock market predictions because if I

1:02:32did that, I'd be go I would go and work

1:02:33as a hedge fund manager. Why would I go

1:02:34talk to you guys, right?

1:02:36>> You know,

1:02:36>> that's fair.

1:02:37>> I would make billions being a hedge fund

1:02:38manager. I wouldn't be on YouTube.

1:02:42But I will tell you this, okay? Um

1:02:45I do believe

1:02:48that um I'm here on a special mission.

1:02:53Maybe it's it's even a divine mission to

1:02:56spread awareness

1:02:58and it's a heavy responsibility

1:03:01>> and I have a responsibility to do it

1:03:04because I have three kids and I want to

1:03:05be the best possible role model to my

1:03:08kids. Okay. So if I had a choice, okay,

1:03:12whether to go be a billionaire and make

1:03:14sure my kids have the best possible life

1:03:17or to speak the truth, I would I would

1:03:20choose to speak the truth because I

1:03:22think that would have a much more um

1:03:24lasting impact on my children than if I

1:03:27were to become a billionaire. Uh in

1:03:30fact, I think that if I were to become a

1:03:31billionaire, I might eat my children. So

1:03:35I rather go just tell the truth. You

1:03:37know,

1:03:38>> on our last podcast, I'd asked if you

1:03:41were a spy and you gave a response and I

1:03:44think uh you did one with what was it?

1:03:46>> A lot of people everyone asked me pretty

1:03:48much everyone's like if I'm a spy. Yes.

1:03:50>> Yeah. Uh but I guess

1:03:54um you said quote if I get into the

1:03:57United States it's because someone wants

1:04:00me here. Uh because

1:04:03you said when you flew into America, you

1:04:05didn't have your travel letter and you

1:04:07were thinking that at the border. Uh

1:04:10who would want you here? I guess. Um

1:04:15so

1:04:17it is true that I said this. It is true

1:04:20that is possible certain the facts of

1:04:22the United States do not mind me coming

1:04:26here and speaking about um what I

1:04:30believe uh to the world because it

1:04:33benefits them politically somehow. Um I

1:04:37would say there are lots of special

1:04:39interests that believe what I say helps

1:04:43advance their cause. Okay. So let's just

1:04:47name them. Okay. First you have to

1:04:49design his interest because even though

1:04:52I'm critical of Israel, I do say they

1:04:56will achieve the greater Israel project

1:04:58and I do say that Israel will probably

1:05:01the best place to invest in the next 20

1:05:04years. Okay. So for all my criticism of

1:05:08Israel, I am certain saying certain

1:05:10things that help advance their cause and

1:05:14a lot of it is predictive programming

1:05:16where I'm getting people used to the

1:05:17idea that Israel will become the

1:05:19dominant power in the uh Middle East.

1:05:23And for Zionists, it's very important

1:05:27that a lot of discussion revolves around

1:05:29Israel. Uh because they're trying to

1:05:31force the George Asper to return to

1:05:34Israel. So whether or not, you know, the

1:05:36discussion is positive or negative, they

1:05:38don't really they don't really care. Um

1:05:41they want Jews to be the center of

1:05:42attention. Okay. So the Zionists don't

1:05:44mind me.

1:05:46I think that Trump

1:05:50uh likes what I say

1:05:51>> really because I keep on saying he's

1:05:53gonna get a third term, right? And in

1:05:57his world of the occult, manifestation

1:05:59is very important. So if I just implant

1:06:02the idea that Trump gets a third term,

1:06:05it becomes normalized

1:06:07in conversation. That makes it much more

1:06:09likely to happen.

1:06:11So, I think Trump benefits from uh me

1:06:14talking about a third term.

1:06:17>> Do you think you had any impact on the

1:06:19outcome of the Iran war?

1:06:23Um

1:06:26um it is possible I had some impact

1:06:31but I prefer to think I had no impact

1:06:35because if I believe I did have an

1:06:37impact uh first of all that would put me

1:06:40in a lot of danger but also because that

1:06:43would also screw up a lot a lot of my

1:06:45analysis as well. Hm.

1:06:48That's interesting. The idea of

1:06:50like you hear an idea. What's a good

1:06:52example of one? Uh if you say everyone's

1:06:55lonely, like does that make people

1:06:56lonely or does that help the epidemic?

1:06:59>> Yeah, that's a good point. If you say

1:07:00people are lonely, it um primes them to

1:07:05notice how lonely they are,

1:07:07>> whereas they might have noticed before.

1:07:10And then it makes it the loneliness much

1:07:11more salient and much more um um

1:07:16conspicuous in society, right? And then

1:07:18it just makes people even more lonely. I

1:07:21also think you know people like Peter

1:07:23Theel

1:07:25um

1:07:27um find me valuable because

1:07:30I am presenting ideas

1:07:34and making them much more mainstream,

1:07:37>> much more popular. So it's easier to

1:07:39implement the change that they want,

1:07:41right? So I keep on saying AI control

1:07:43grid. Well, you may not know this, but

1:07:46the worst doomsayers about AI are funded

1:07:50by the tech bros, right? So you might

1:07:52have have I'm not sure if you had these

1:07:55people on your podcast, but they keep on

1:07:56saying how AI is going to control us,

1:07:59right? This is not organic. They are,

1:08:02this is part of their um silog where

1:08:05they're trying to get people to believe

1:08:06that AI is far more advanced than it

1:08:09actually is really. Yeah. And so a way

1:08:13to get people to accept AI is is by

1:08:17creating the illusion that AI is all

1:08:20powerful. H that's interesting. I'd

1:08:23actually asked a guest about that

1:08:25recently. I was like, uh, if you say AI

1:08:27is going to kill us all, uh, then that

1:08:30just helps the economy of AI because

1:08:32everyone

1:08:33>> like, you want to invest in a company

1:08:35that's going to take over the world.

1:08:36That's right. You know, but is it

1:08:38possible to be talking about AI is going

1:08:40to kill us all without being co-opted by

1:08:43AI?

1:08:44>> Um, right. So again, it goes back to the

1:08:46idea that the universe is conscious. So

1:08:51um

1:08:52they're trying to implant certain

1:08:53emotions, ideas in people to shape

1:08:56reality uh itself. And so when you say

1:09:00that AI will uh kill us all and AI will

1:09:04destroy all jobs, what you're really

1:09:07doing is making people in fear and in

1:09:11awe of AI, which makes AI becoming God

1:09:14much more likely, right? because

1:09:17emotions associated with God are fear

1:09:19and all right but that doesn't make it

1:09:22not true

1:09:24um it makes it more true okay so as I

1:09:27say as I said before the technology

1:09:30doesn't exist where AI can become God

1:09:33where AI can become independent of human

1:09:35beings so what you need what you need

1:09:37you need to do is use oult magic to make

1:09:40people believe that AI is god and that

1:09:45would be the same

1:09:46Right. And that's why um people

1:09:51um working with within the AI industry

1:09:53are leaking reports of like, you know,

1:09:55they're trying to summon demons.

1:09:57Uh they're trying to um manifest demons

1:10:01in AI. It's all BS. Uh if you actually

1:10:06know the technology, it can't do that.

1:10:08But it's again, the human imagination is

1:10:11the source of reality. So if you're able

1:10:13to manipulate human imagination away, it

1:10:15creates the AI god for you. Do you think

1:10:18elites believe AI won't kill people who

1:10:21have a microchip in their brain?

1:10:23Um

1:10:26that's not how elites think. Elites

1:10:28don't think in terms of people or kill

1:10:31them. I guess elite thinks in in terms

1:10:34of like utility. Uh they think in terms

1:10:36like energy, right? They think in terms

1:10:38of maximum benefit. So they don't really

1:10:41think in terms of humans. In fact, um

1:10:46they

1:10:48think in terms of like a blueprint. They

1:10:49see the society as a blueprint to be

1:10:52manipulated in a way that maximizes

1:10:54efficiency and convenience and utility.

1:10:57>> I'm not sure if you know who Robert

1:10:59Moses is. You know who Robert

1:11:01>> name? I've heard that name.

1:11:02>> Robert Moses was the most powerful urban

1:11:04planner in United States in the 20th

1:11:07century. and he was um in New York City.

1:11:11What he did was he created like the

1:11:13modern American urban landscape. Uh so

1:11:17he would just take these neighborhoods

1:11:19and bulldoze them and make make um it

1:11:22safe for highways.

1:11:23>> Okay. So he made the country more

1:11:25convenient for cars and less convenient

1:11:28for people because he didn't he he

1:11:30didn't think in terms of like people.

1:11:32He's be he was not capable thinking in

1:11:33terms of people. He all he thought about

1:11:35was in terms of like

1:11:38cars, you know, like so it's really

1:11:40strange, okay? But like you you need to

1:11:42appreciate this. The more you go up the

1:11:46power ladder,

1:11:48the more you remove from everyday

1:11:51reality, the more you remove from people

1:11:53and from emotions. And you start

1:11:55becoming more like a machine. You think

1:11:58in terms of m like in terms of a

1:12:00machine, but you also perceive the world

1:12:02as a machine to be perfected, right?

1:12:06Okay. So, yeah, the more you move up,

1:12:10the more psychopathic you become. You

1:12:13said something this summer uh that I

1:12:15don't think I've seen any interviewer

1:12:17touch on. You said, quote, "I had a very

1:12:20traumatic childhood and I was convinced

1:12:22no one loved me."

1:12:25Why did you feel like that?

1:12:28Well, because um I was traumatized by my

1:12:32experience in Canada. And when you're

1:12:36traumatized, it creates disassociation.

1:12:39And disassociation means uh you're no

1:12:42longer connected to the people around

1:12:44you. Um so that's not how I felt not

1:12:48just in Canada, but also at Yale. In

1:12:51fact, my disassociation, my trauma was

1:12:53probably even worse at Yale because it

1:12:55was such a foreign environment. At least

1:12:57in Canada, I had my parents. At least I

1:12:59had had my brothers, but in at Yale, I

1:13:01was just by myself. And um

1:13:06um it was really my wife who reached out

1:13:09to connect to me. And that's why I think

1:13:11my my wife is really my angel, you know,

1:13:14sent here to save me from what I could

1:13:18have become.

1:13:21You said uh on your wife that

1:13:26she believes you're able to make your

1:13:29predictions because you're possessed by

1:13:30a demon.

1:13:33Did Did I say that?

1:13:34>> My wife tells me that when I write or

1:13:36when I work, it's like I'm possessed.

1:13:38I'm possessed by something. So, what my

1:13:39wife has said to me is when I write,

1:13:42when I work, I'm not even here.

1:13:44>> Like, you know, when I'm on a computer,

1:13:46I'm writing a story. I'm writing an

1:13:47essay. I completely focus on the task. I

1:13:50completely ignore the environment around

1:13:52me. And often when I'm writing a novel,

1:13:54I've written novels before, I even when

1:13:57I'm walking with her, I drift in I drift

1:14:00off into another world. So my body is

1:14:03here, but my mind is not there. So it's

1:14:05not really possession. It's really

1:14:06channeling.

1:14:07>> Yeah.

1:14:09You once said, quote, "When I was

1:14:11younger, I had many visions. When I go

1:14:14to bed, I see fighter jets roaming the

1:14:16sky. I I see the world burning.

1:14:20What do you think dreams actually are?

1:14:23And like what were the significance of

1:14:24those dreams? So when I was um very

1:14:28young and I'm talking like seven 8 n

1:14:31okay I would have a lot of dreams of

1:14:34like me

1:14:36uh on the battlefield commanding my

1:14:39forces and I I I would actually um as a

1:14:42young person I would have in my parents'

1:14:45basement lots of like Lego battles you

1:14:48know like how you take a Lego and then I

1:14:50would take take one Lego instead of like

1:14:53putting them together like I should I

1:14:55just pretend like this one Lego was a

1:14:56tank. I made tanks, I made soldiers, and

1:14:59I just, um, created all these battles.

1:15:02And so, um, why is it that I was doing

1:15:06this? And I think it's because it might

1:15:09be memories

1:15:12or emotions or inclinations

1:15:16from previous lives.

1:15:18Um, so I mean one thing that's very

1:15:21strange is I've never worked in the

1:15:23military.

1:15:25I have no real experience

1:15:30um working in a bureaucracy.

1:15:34But for the reason I'm able to figure

1:15:38out

1:15:40just using pure intuition how wars turn

1:15:43out. Okay. Okay. So, I'm able to

1:15:45diagnose the war in Ukraine, the war in

1:15:48Iran, and it's pretty accurate, right?

1:15:53So, um I just came back from Austin and

1:15:56I was on the Chris Williamson podcast. I

1:15:59was sitting with um Robert Pape who

1:16:01you've interviewed and George Freriedman

1:16:04who runs a company called Strat 4 and

1:16:06Strat 4 is called by some the shadow

1:16:09CIA. Okay. So these are two individuals

1:16:12who have tremendous

1:16:14experience working in government at the

1:16:16highest levels and they know the most

1:16:18powerful people in the world. Right?

1:16:20Robert P used to work in the White House

1:16:23and he's advised many generals, many

1:16:26officers

1:16:28and

1:16:30we agreed on a lot of things. A lot of

1:16:33things I was saying conform to their

1:16:36experience. So, it's really strange how

1:16:39they have experience of my intuition and

1:16:41we're able to align, right? That makes

1:16:43no sense. How is that possible? I mean,

1:16:46a lot of stuff I'm saying I actually

1:16:48just make up. Like, I've been accused

1:16:50like making making stuff up and like

1:16:52it's true. I mean, like, yes, uh, the

1:16:55Iran war, I didn't spend years studying

1:16:56the Iran war. I'm just basing a lot of

1:16:59things. I I make a lot of predictions. I

1:17:01do analysis based on pure intuition. So,

1:17:04yeah, I am making stuff up. But why is

1:17:06it that when I make a lot of stuff up,

1:17:08I'm able to get a lot of stuff right?

1:17:09And in fact, I'm able to sit down with,

1:17:12you know, Robert Pap, who's a professor

1:17:13at Chicago University, and George

1:17:16Freeman, who um um runs his own

1:17:21intelligence forecasting company and

1:17:25like I'm able to uh speak with authority

1:17:29even though I have absolutely no

1:17:30experience in government or in the

1:17:32military.

1:17:34Um, and I think it has to do with the

1:17:36fact that maybe before

1:17:39I might have been a general or a leader

1:17:42of some sorts with a lot of experience

1:17:45in in in battles because like I'm able

1:17:48to see my head very clearly how this

1:17:50battle uh turned out. Uh, so if you go

1:17:53back to my early interviews right as the

1:17:55Iran war broke out, my analysis is

1:17:58pretty spot on.

1:18:00And I I don't know how how that happens

1:18:02because like I'm just literally making

1:18:03making this stuff up. I won't lie. I'm

1:18:05like, you know, like I didn't spend

1:18:07months doing research into the Iranian

1:18:10military and the US military and then

1:18:12there's like the secret access that

1:18:15enable me to uh know what's going to

1:18:17happen. No, I just completely base my

1:18:20predictions on intuition.

1:18:22My analysis is just intuitive and I I

1:18:27don't know how that works. Right? So I I

1:18:29think I asked myself when I was young,

1:18:32why was I so interested in military

1:18:33affairs?

1:18:35And it might have been memories and

1:18:37intuitions and um inclinations from a

1:18:40previous life or previous lives.

1:18:44And it's also possible, okay, and I'm

1:18:46just talking out loud here. It's also

1:18:48possible that in previous lives, not

1:18:51life, but lives,

1:18:53I reached the highest echelons of power

1:18:56in society. Okay. And I don't know

1:18:59where, okay? But like I I I climb up

1:19:01pretty high and maybe I was a member of

1:19:03these secret societies and maybe um I

1:19:08became extremely wealthy and powerful

1:19:10and all that did was fill me with a

1:19:13tremendous sense of regret. And I'm here

1:19:16in this world to tell everyone what what

1:19:20power really is like. How to avoid the

1:19:24mistakes I might have made in previous

1:19:26lives. I don't know, but that could be

1:19:29an explanation for why I am so insistent

1:19:33on going on podcast and telling the

1:19:35truth. Uh, regardless of the risk and

1:19:38dangers to my own personal safety,

1:19:42do you feel like you're helping people?

1:19:44Well, people tell me I'm helping people.

1:19:46I get stopped on the streets all the

1:19:48time and people like, I want to take a

1:19:49picture of you. I want to shake your

1:19:50hand because I love the knowledge you're

1:19:52sharing. like everywhere like Hong Kong,

1:19:55London,

1:19:57Beijing, uh New York, and like it's

1:20:01really strange, but like it's all sorts

1:20:02of people. It's like like my fan base is

1:20:06the most diverse group of people you

1:20:08will ever meet. But today, I was stopped

1:20:12by a construction worker who spotted me

1:20:14as I cross the street. He wanted to

1:20:16shake my hand. I was I was at a

1:20:18restaurant and um this Asian guy spotted

1:20:22me and asked to take my picture and then

1:20:25um I was getting ice cream with for my

1:20:27son and some tourists in Switzerland

1:20:30want to take a picture of me um with me

1:20:32and this is just the past 3 days and

1:20:34everyone is like I love the work you're

1:20:35doing please continue. So um um I do

1:20:39feel I'm having a positive impact and um

1:20:42I do feel that teaching knowledge to

1:20:47people is

1:20:50probably the greatest um it gives me the

1:20:52greatest sense of um gratification.

1:20:56>> Right. I I've also had people who've

1:20:58told me like I've changed their lives,

1:21:00you know, like this one uh young man

1:21:03said after watching my videos, he now

1:21:06gets along better with his parents. I

1:21:08don't know why that's the case, but he

1:21:11told me like he I I've changed his life

1:21:12for for the better. And I've never

1:21:15[snorts]

1:21:15received a message from someone who says

1:21:17like, you know, you made my life a lot

1:21:18worse. I've I've received messages where

1:21:22hearing you speak has brought pain to my

1:21:24life, but it's also brought awareness.

1:21:27>> Right.

1:21:30Yeah. I'll say personally, I got married

1:21:32uh after we met each other because I

1:21:35wouldn't say you were a direct cause of

1:21:36it, but uh we had a lot of interesting

1:21:39conversations about just the nature of

1:21:41your content. There there's so many

1:21:43things that were unknown before I feel

1:21:45like your content came into the world

1:21:47and it gave me a framework to do

1:21:50analysis on so much stuff. Uh so yeah,

1:21:53I'll admit that it had a positive impact

1:21:55on me in that way.

1:21:56>> Great.

1:21:56>> Yeah.

1:21:57>> Great. I encourage people to get married

1:21:59and have families. That's that that's

1:22:00our message. [laughter]

1:22:03>> And don't chase Uh you said in

1:22:06the last interview you also well that's

1:22:07how you get married, man. No one's going

1:22:09to marry you if you chase

1:22:11[laughter] right? Um,

1:22:14something you said

1:22:17that I found interesting was your son

1:22:19Chris, you think he's from another

1:22:21planet and that his soul transmigrated

1:22:24here? Why do you think your son is from

1:22:27another planet?

1:22:28>> Um, I think our souls transmigrated

1:22:31here. I think our our souls are eternal.

1:22:34U, but he's just more sensitive. He's

1:22:36just more aware. So he told us this, but

1:22:39I mean um it's crazy but like our

1:22:42daughter. So I wrote three fantasy

1:22:45novels and is part of a nine book

1:22:48trilogy and I was exhausted writing

1:22:51those three books but I felt I had to um

1:22:54in order to build a legacy for my

1:22:56children. And my wife is like, she she

1:23:00read the novels and she says, "This is

1:23:02great." You know, this is very much like

1:23:03Game of Thrones, but it lacks

1:23:07descriptive language.

1:23:09>> And I said, I know I'm not good at

1:23:11writing descriptive language because

1:23:12like I don't want to spend hours

1:23:13describing

1:23:15what's what clothes someone is wearing.

1:23:16That bores me to death. I'm much more

1:23:18interested in the plot and the

1:23:20characters and the dialogue. She's like,

1:23:22"Fine. What we'll do is this. We'll have

1:23:24a daughter and she will write the the

1:23:27books for you. And this is like when we

1:23:29have one son, okay? Then we have another

1:23:33son and then she's like, "Okay, we'll

1:23:34have we'll have a third child and this

1:23:37will have to be a daughter." It's like,

1:23:38"Why can't we have a son?" And she's

1:23:40like, "Well, because the son will hate

1:23:42you, right? The son's not going to want

1:23:44to like inherit your legacy. The son

1:23:46wants to build his own legacy. So, we

1:23:48need to have a daughter who's not just a

1:23:50daughter, but also someone who can be a

1:23:52writer.

1:23:54and we had a daughter and um the story

1:23:59of my daughter's birth is my wife wanted

1:24:02to go to another another city where

1:24:04there was better healthcare.

1:24:06She was 2 weeks away but she felt she

1:24:11was going our daughter was going to come

1:24:13early. So she got on a train and she

1:24:15said to our daughter, "Please don't come

1:24:18out until we've we've got to the the

1:24:21city." So, she arrives and literally

1:24:23like two hours after she arrives in the

1:24:25hotel, her water breaks

1:24:27>> and she goes to the um hospital and she

1:24:30gives birth and it's very smooth. And

1:24:32then uh my daughter is turning three

1:24:34next month and she's like everyone's

1:24:37like she's a writer, she's sensitive,

1:24:39she's smart, uh she's good with

1:24:41language. So I I don't know how that

1:24:44works, right? My my wife is like, "We

1:24:47need a daughter and who can write your

1:24:50novels."

1:24:52And I wrote the novels so that one of my

1:24:55children could inherit a legacy because

1:24:58because remember at this time when I

1:24:59wrote the novels, this was like uh six

1:25:02years ago. I wasn't famous. I I didn't

1:25:06know I would be YouTube famous. I didn't

1:25:08even have a job. That's why I could

1:25:10write the novels because I had no job. I

1:25:12I needed to build a legacy uh for my

1:25:16family. So I had no idea that I would

1:25:20write the novels and my wife would be

1:25:21like we need a daughter who who can

1:25:22finish your novels

1:25:24and but that's but that that's how it

1:25:26turned out. So um I do believe in the

1:25:30trans migration of the soul because I

1:25:31have children and my children are

1:25:32nothing like me.

1:25:34>> Um they're they're all independent.

1:25:37They're all different. they have their

1:25:39own uh career and life trajectories. And

1:25:42what I realize is you can't actually

1:25:44influence them. I mean, you can uh take

1:25:48care of them, but they're really guests.

1:25:50They're gifts from God. And uh once you

1:25:53recognize that, it makes life easier for

1:25:56everyone,

1:25:57>> right?

1:25:58>> And you know, it's really strange how we

1:26:00have three kids and they're very

1:26:02different and they're not at all like

1:26:04either my wife or myself. So, I don't

1:26:06believe in genetics. I don't believe in

1:26:08genes. I don't believe in the blank

1:26:09slate theory. I believe that all

1:26:12children are gifts from God. They've all

1:26:14transmigrated here and they're here for

1:26:17their own purpose and you can only take

1:26:21care of them. Uh you can only make them

1:26:23happy but ultimately their life is their

1:26:25own. They're going to face their own

1:26:27hurdles, their own uh tribulations, but

1:26:31that is part of their own journey,

1:26:34right?

1:26:36What's one thing uh you hope to teach

1:26:41your son Chris before he becomes an

1:26:43adult? Um because I know you said that

1:26:47you don't really have a say, but I'm

1:26:49sure you could teach a few things. Yeah.

1:26:52Um

1:26:56I mean, I would like him to be a good

1:26:58person. That's what's most important to

1:27:00my wife and myself. I want him to be

1:27:03kind, generous, and openhearted.

1:27:05uh and open-minded. Um I would like him

1:27:08to be passionate as well, you know,

1:27:10where he has a certain dream and he's

1:27:13pursuing his dream to his fullest. Um

1:27:17but I don't have my hopes up, you know,

1:27:19he uh he has his own journey and like

1:27:23look looking at my own life, you know, I

1:27:25mean I've taken many detours to get to

1:27:29where I am. Um, for most of my life, I

1:27:33didn't really know what my purpose was.

1:27:34I didn't really believe I had a purpose.

1:27:37And I was a very depressed and

1:27:39traumatized person. And all I want to do

1:27:42is is protect Chris, uh, my son, and

1:27:46just make sure it's a happy childhood.

1:27:47And then where he takes his life is

1:27:49something that he will decide for

1:27:51himself. One thing I'm very cautious

1:27:53about is like not letting my fame

1:27:55influence him because I I know I went to

1:27:57Yale University. I know a lot of

1:27:59successful people and the children are

1:28:01not very happy people. Uh and the reason

1:28:04why is there certain expectation on the

1:28:08children of the famous to be just as

1:28:09famous, right? And it traumatizes them

1:28:13because

1:28:14um everyone expects them to follow in

1:28:17their parents' footsteps and become just

1:28:20as famous and successful

1:28:22and most can't do it. I have yet to meet

1:28:27a very happy person from a very powerful

1:28:31family famous family and I don't want my

1:28:33children to um suffer the same fate. I

1:28:37want them to feel as though

1:28:40um their life is their own and they have

1:28:43absolutely no obligation or or um

1:28:46pressure to follow in my footsteps.

1:28:52Who do you think is the most impressive

1:28:54person you've ever met?

1:28:56>> The most impressive person I've ever

1:28:58met? Um, I have high regard for uh my

1:29:04mentor at Yale. His name is David

1:29:05Brahmich.

1:29:07He is a man I admire very much because

1:29:10he has this relentless pursuit of the

1:29:12truth. He's very open-minded. He's very

1:29:14generous. One thing that really shocked

1:29:17me about him when I first met him is

1:29:21he's always willing to admit he's wrong.

1:29:26That I think is the best sign of a

1:29:29really intelligent and good person. Like

1:29:33if he sees

1:29:37um someone with a bad idea, he'll just

1:29:41say, "Well, I have so much to learn from

1:29:43you." And honestly, I saw that with

1:29:44Robert Pap as well when um I was doing

1:29:47this panel discussion with Robert Pap u

1:29:50and I was making certain points. He if I

1:29:54made a good point, he would just say

1:29:55that's a great point. Um he didn't see

1:29:58life as a competition. He saw um us as

1:30:01all just on our own intellectual journey

1:30:03and we can learn from each other. So I I

1:30:06admire the most people who can admit

1:30:08they're wrong. And that's why in today's

1:30:10media landscape, I admire Tucker Carson

1:30:12a lot because he's very forthright uh in

1:30:16admitting his mistakes. He admitted that

1:30:18he made a mistake in supporting the Iraq

1:30:20war and he admits that he was mistaken

1:30:24in supporting Trump. He admits that he

1:30:27was wrong in his critique of Muslims

1:30:30before. He keeps on saying he's wrong.

1:30:33And his critics are like, "Well, that's

1:30:35just, you know, a show." And I'm like,

1:30:38"Then you try it.

1:30:40Name me another famous celebrity with a

1:30:45huge micro uh megaphone who just says on

1:30:49a regular basis, I was wrong about this.

1:30:50I was wrong about that." Uh it it it's

1:30:53just a complete testament to his

1:30:55character that he's willing to admit his

1:30:57faults. That I think is is like the

1:30:59ultimate test of of character. Are you

1:31:01willing to admit you're wrong? And most

1:31:04aren't.

1:31:05>> I think that's a good one. Yeah. And

1:31:08it's it's actually surprisingly rare. Uh

1:31:11it's hard to do. It really is.

1:31:14>> Since our last conversation, what's the

1:31:17best piece of advice you've ever given

1:31:20someone?

1:31:24Fine friends

1:31:27will always tell you the truth.

1:31:31That is the um testament to friendship.

1:31:36A friend is not someone who will tell

1:31:39you what you want to hear. A friend is

1:31:41someone who tells you

1:31:43um what is the truth and that I think is

1:31:46the um best sign of love.

1:31:50Um I'm really thankful to my wife and

1:31:52the reason why is she will never lie to

1:31:55me. Even though it's probably sometimes

1:31:58in her best interest to lie to me or

1:32:00it's the most easy thing to do, but she

1:32:03will never lie to me. and she uh will

1:32:08always tell me the truth. Not only that,

1:32:09but she tells she only tells our

1:32:11children the truth, even though again

1:32:13sometimes it is easier or more more

1:32:16strategic to lie to our children. And

1:32:19that I think is a test um a testament to

1:32:22her character, but it's also a testament

1:32:24to how much she loves me as well as our

1:32:27children.

1:32:27>> And what kind of person do you become if

1:32:30everyone in your life lies to you?

1:32:33>> Um what I believe is this. I believe

1:32:35that words do matter. And so if you tell

1:32:39the truth, you uplift yourself and those

1:32:41around you. If you lie, you degrade

1:32:44yourself and those around you. I don't

1:32:46lie. I refuse to lie. Um, and I wouldn't

1:32:51be able to sleep at night if if I lied

1:32:54because not because I'm afraid of what

1:32:57it does to other people. I'm afraid of

1:32:58what it does to myself.

1:33:01Beautiful.

1:33:06Well, everyone, uh, this has been your

1:33:08guest, Professor Jeang. Where can people

1:33:12find your work that you're excited

1:33:14about?

1:33:14>> I'm on two places. I'm on YouTube and

1:33:16I'm on Substack and both are predictive

1:33:18history.

1:33:19>> Predictive history. Awesome. Well, I

1:33:22appreciate you coming along, guys. This

1:33:23is the Jack Neil podcast. See you later.

1:33:27Thank you. Okay, man. Yeah. All right.

1:33:29Thank you.