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2017 Personality 14: Introduction to Traits/Psychometrics/The Big 5

Jordan B Peterson · 2,062 words · 10 min read

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0:12so I want to tell you

0:14I want to make a little announcement first.

0:17I'm going to do a series of lectures, I think, starting in May.

0:20Maybe at the Isabel Bader Theatre?

0:23We're trying to look into booking that. On a, I'm

0:26going to do a psychological interpretation of the bible from beginning

0:29to end. That's the plan anyway. So I'm going to do that once a week.

0:32So if you are interested in that,

0:35I would recommend that you... (and maybe your not an that's fine obviously)

0:38but, if you go onto my Twitter account

0:40you can just, there's a place you can sign up

0:43It doesn't mean that you'll attend. I'm just

0:46trying to see if there are people who are interested. I've been

0:48interested in doing that for a long time and so I think I'm going to try it and so.

0:51Anyways!

0:52That's the announcement. Then, is that about it?

0:55I guess so. OK! So look we are going to switch gears today.

0:58Um. The first half of this course, as you've

1:01no doubt already err gathered, is...

1:05because it's grounded essentially in clinical theories

1:07of personality it tends more

1:09towards the philosophical. And I told you that the reason for that was that

1:12I regard clinical psychology as a branch of engineering

1:15rather than a branch of science.

1:17It's Human Engineering obviously; and because of that

1:21it's an applied science and so that means it straddles the

1:23ground between a science and a practice and

1:26and it, because it's, it

1:29involves human beings,

1:31it necessarily involves value because

1:34we live inside value structures;

1:36and so the logical consequence of that is that

1:39investigation into the philosophy of value

1:42is necessary in order to understand clinical

1:45Psychological theories.

1:46Because really what you are trying to do as a clinician,

1:48you could say that you are trying to do two things; one is to help people

1:52have less terrible lives. But you are also trying to help them

1:55have better lives. and there is obviously a value structure

1:58that is inherent in that attempt

2:00because you are moving from something of less value to something of more value

2:03and so.. and it's best to just

2:06to face that and all the complexities

2:09that come along with that, head on. Now!

2:12I think that what you do as a clinician,

2:14to overcome what ever tendency you might have to

2:17impose your value structure on someone is you do an awful lot of listening

2:20And so my basic practise with people

2:22is to say to them. "Well; obviously you are here

2:25because you would like things to be better. But that's OK.

2:28We can use your definition of what constitutes better.

2:31We can use your definition of what constitutes worse.

2:35Or we can establish that through dialogue, and negotiation.

2:38What are you aiming at? How would you like things to be better

2:40a year from now say? If you could have what you wanted,

2:43if your life was put together what would that look like?

2:47And you can have a very straight forward

2:49discussion with people about that if you are not cram

2:52the way that they are orienting the world into your particular perspective.

2:55Now. That's one of the dangers of being the adherent of

2:58a given psychological school. Now having said that.

3:02It's also...

3:03There was research done many years ago, showing that

3:06if you were an eclectic psychotherapist

3:09which means that you sort of pick and chose from different therapeutic schools.

3:12You tended to not be as effective as you were if you were the

3:15dedicated adherent of a given school

3:18and I think that the reason for that is

3:21that there are so many schools of psychological thought

3:24that if you say that you pick an choose from all of them, what that

3:27really means is that you don't know anything about any of them.

3:28And then there's also the additional

3:30factor

3:32(maybe, you might call it) that

3:35if someone comes to you and they're very chaotic and confused.

3:39Helping them impose ANY STRUCTURE

3:41onto their life is likely to be an improvement over no structure at all.

3:44And you can think about that in a Piagetian sense, is that

3:47you know you’re going to be happier playing a game, rather than no game.

3:50And there's many games that you can play

3:53that are better than no game. And so if you go to

3:56a therapist that has a particular view point

3:59and they help you structure your understanding of the world

4:02within the confines of a given clinical model;

4:04and you came in there very chaotic and uncertain,

4:07then maybe that's going to be a lot better for you than just floundering.

4:10And I think that there's some real truth in that.

4:13And I think that that's part and parcel of the same, er;

4:16of another, what, you might call it

4:18"reasonable observation about maturation" is that

4:21it's very necessary for people at some point in there life

4:24to dedicate themselves to a single game, of some sort.

4:27Which is kind of what you are doing at University.

4:28You Know, you have to become 'one thing' at some point in your life;

4:32and the sacrifice of course is that you give up all the other things that you could become.

4:36But you don't really have a choice because

4:39if you don't decide voluntarily to become one thing. You know

4:42to become a disciplined adherent of some specific

4:46er

4:48practise or profession or view point

4:51then you risk just ageing Chaotically

4:54And you don't get away with not ageing.

4:56So you might as well age into something

4:59that's actually something

5:01rather than just becoming an old child

5:04Which is really... Which is not a good thing.

5:06It's not a good thing to see. Especialy when people

5:08hit about 40. It's not, it's not pretty,

5:11For them or anyone else.

5:14And even at 30, it's getting pretty old at that point.

5:1740; it's like almost irreparable at 40.

5:19And the reason for that is, you start running out of opportunities

5:22when you're young and stupid people don't care

5:25because they think, you know, whatever. You've got decades of

5:28of possibilities still ready to unfold in you,

5:33but if you are in the same unspecified position at 40

5:37people are much less forgiving

5:39especially if they are going

5:41to hire someone who doesn't know

5:43what's going on. Or employ them or sorry engage them is some sort of

5:46productive activity.

5:48They might as well take a chance on someone young and full of

5:49potential rather than someone

5:52who has really lived more than half of their life already

5:55because of course you have, by the time you are 40. OK.

5:58So, anyway, so that is with regards to putting the first

6:01half of the course to bed so to speak.

6:03The second half

6:04is more scientific.

6:06and there is a bit of a gap and

6:09it's a bit of a gap I am trying to resolve conceptually

6:12because now we move into more biological models

6:15and into models that are psychometric and Psychometrics

6:18is the psychological study of the study

6:21of psychological measurement. And now if you are a scientist

6:25there's a couple of things that you are

6:27obliged to do if you are a scientist

6:29one is to utilise the scientific method that's usually the

6:32experimental method where you take 2 groups

6:36randomly selected, apply a

6:38manipulation to one of them and not

6:41equivalent manipulation of a different sort to another;

6:44hypothesize about what the outcome is likely to be and then test it

6:46ah, that's the technical experimental model anyways

6:50you're also obliged as a scientist

6:53to come up with

6:56a measurement of your, of your

6:59to come up with a measurement, let's just put it that way

7:02that's reliable and valid. Okay, and what a

7:05reliable measure is one that measures the same way

7:08across multiple measurements. So, for example,

7:11you wouldn't want to take a ruler that's made out of flexible

7:14rubber to measure things with because it

7:17wouldn't give you the same measurement if you put it in different situations

7:20That's reliability, and it's a term you need to know. It means that the

7:24measurement tool produces stable results across

7:26different instances of the measurement. Without that,

7:30you don't have a measurement. And the other

7:33critical

7:35factor with regards to

7:38a measurement is that it has to be valid, which means that

7:40it actually has to measure what it preports to measure and it

7:43actually has to be usable for an array of

7:46different purposes as a consequence, so,

7:49you might think well the purpose of scientific endeavor is to predict and to

7:52control, you could say understand, predict, and control but

7:56understanding, prediction, and control are all

8:00manifestations of the same underlying

8:03throughly designed comprehension. Now,

8:07here's what's happened with the measurement of personality

8:11It's a funny

8:13story in some sense, a peculiar story, because

8:17in many ways, what we've come to understand about personality

8:20from a scientific perspective, developed

8:23in a very atheoretical manner. It's not very common

8:26in scientific endeavor that that occurs, is that

8:30what we know about personality emerged

8:32from, I would say, statistically rigorous observation,

8:36without it being the consequence of any real model.

8:39So, often, what happens,

8:42in scientific endeavor is that someone generates a model first, a theoretical understanding,

8:47and then they generate measurement tools based on that theoretical understanding

8:50and then they test the measurement tools to see if

8:53well if the measurement tools perform properly, and if they

8:56fail at least to invalidate the underlying theory

8:59That isn't what happened with psychometrics.

9:01Except in a loose way, so here's the loose

9:05theory, and you've got to get this exactly right

9:08to understand this properly. You've got to get it exactly right, and it's

9:11really important, because, insofar as you guys

9:13are interested in psychology, especially in the

9:15experimental end of psychology, measurement is everything

9:18and so much of what psychologists publish and

9:21write about is incorrect, and the reason it's incorrect

9:24is cause they do not have their measurements properly

9:27instantiated. It's a massive

9:29problem especially in social psychology. In fact it's

9:31probably a fatal problem, in that most of the things that

9:34social psychologists measure don't exist.

9:37And social psychology has been rife with scandals for the last

9:404 or 5 years, and there's good reason for it

9:43but a big part of the problem is is that, the measurement

9:46that people are not stringent and careful enough about their measurements

9:49so we're going to walk through this very very carefully, so I'm going to

9:52set forward a set of propositions and you have to

9:55think about it, cause each of them are...they're axiomatic, so you

9:58sort of have to accept them before you go on to the next step.

10:01And there's certainly room to question them.

10:04But here's the bare bones of the psychometric model of personality

10:07so we'll call it roughly the big 5 model

10:10and the reason it's called the big 5 model is because

10:13the psychometric investigations have indicated that

10:15you can specify human personality along 5

10:18basic dimensions. You might ask well what

10:21exactly is personality, and well

10:23that's partly what we have been trying to wrestle with in the entire course so far

10:26and I would say

10:29umm what exactly is a trait. Think of an trait as an element of

10:32personality; and I think the best way to think about a trait is

10:35as a sub-personality.

10:38So you are made up of sub-personalities

10:40that are integrated into something

10:43vaguely resembling a unity. But the unity is diverse.

10:46There are describable stable elements that characterize you.

10:52That are elements of your being.

10:54So for example, here are some common ones.

10:57I would say, are you so sure ,or would you rather be alone?

11:00So here is a good question for you to define

11:03decide whether you are an extrovert or an introvert.

11:05It's pretty straightforward. It is the first major dimension.

11:08Basically if you take any set of questions,

11:11about, any set of questions that

11:14could be applied descriptively to a human being,

11:17and you subject them to a statistical process

11:20called factor analysis.

11:22You can determine how they group together. So, what I would be interested in,

11:25Let's say I ask you a hundred questions.

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