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0:13well we're going to continue our
0:14discussion of the big five traits today
0:17and I'm going to talk to you about
0:19openness and
0:21intelligence um roughly speaking so the
0:25first thing I want to do is put them
0:26into context you need to understand
0:29where in Ence fits in the in the trait
0:32hierarchy structure and so we've we've
0:36looked at this before but you can break
0:38the big five into the big
0:40two plasticity and stability we'll start
0:43with stability here and stable people
0:46are conscientious high in stress
0:49tolerance or emotional stability or low
0:51in neuroticism depending on how you look
0:53at it and high in
0:55agreeableness and then conscientiousness
0:58breaks down into industrious and
1:01orderliness um neuroticism breaks down
1:03into volatility and withdrawal and
1:06agreeableness breaks down into
1:07politeness and
1:09compassion and then for the second major
1:12trait you have the the big two trait you
1:14have plasticity and plasticity is made
1:16up of extraversion and openness and
1:18those look like the reason they Clump
1:20together the reason the first three
1:22Clump together we think is because
1:24they're roughly associated with
1:26serotonergic function um and the reason
1:29that latter two Clump together is
1:31because they're roughly associated with
1:33dopaminergic function and the dopamine
1:35system mediates exploratory behavior in
1:38the face of the unknown but it also
1:40mediates positive emotion and and it's
1:43because in order to move forward into
1:45the
1:46unknown it isn't that you have to
1:48experience positive emotion it's that
1:49the emotion you experience when you're
1:51motivated to move forward into the
1:53unknown and explore is a positive
1:55emotion and positive emotion is very
1:57much also associated with interaction in
1:59the social environment and maybe that's
2:01because a tremendous amount of what
2:03you're doing in the social environment
2:05is essentially exploratory Behavior
2:07right because for example when you're
2:08communicating with people that's
2:11primarily exploratory behavior um so
2:15it's not surprising that the circuitry
2:17overlaps in in that manner um openness
2:21is the one we're going to concentrate on
2:23most particularly today and it it's
2:26openness to experience technically and
2:27it seems to break down into intellect
2:30and and openness proper which is it's
2:33it's intellect which is interest in
2:35ideas maybe facility with ideas and
2:37openness which is more like creativity
2:40that's that's now you can't divide them
2:43into interest and ideas and creativity
2:46so precisely because they they overlap
2:48to a to a great degree but there is
2:51there is reason for differentiating
2:53between them so for example women are
2:55about a third of a standard deviation
2:57higher than men in openness SL
3:00creativity and men are about a third of
3:01a standard deviation higher than women
3:03in interest and ideas and intellect and
3:05that's actually quite a substantial
3:07difference within a trait that's when
3:09the two traits are so highly correlated
3:12so there's reason to do the to do the
3:15fractionation so anyways so we're going
3:19to concentrate on openness today and the
3:22reason that I'm presenting the trait
3:24description first rather than moving
3:26immediately into say IQ and creativity
3:29is because it's reasonable to it's
3:31useful to know that you can take
3:33intelligence and put it in the big five
3:36taxonomy and you can actually measure
3:38intelligence a lot more accurately with
3:40an IQ test and perhaps also with a
3:42creativity test than you can with a
3:44self-report personality test that relies
3:46on adjectives you know because I could
3:48ask you guys well how smart are you on a
3:50scale of 1 to seven and that would be
3:52roughly correlated with your IQ but if I
3:54really wanted to know how smart you were
3:56roughly speaking it would be much better
3:57to give you an IQ test and if I was
4:00wanting to know how creative you are
4:01rather than asking you how creative you
4:03are and getting you to report even
4:05though there would be some accuracy in
4:07that it would be better actually to give
4:08you some of the different tests of
4:10creativity that we'll talk about today
4:12now the weird thing about the big five
4:14or one of the weird things about it is
4:16that we don't have great tests for the
4:19traits independently of self-report for
4:22almost all of the traits so for
4:24example one of the things that I've been
4:26trying to do in my lab for the last 5
4:29years is to find some sort of laboratory
4:31task that conscientious people do better
4:34on or unconscientious people do worse on
4:37and you think that would be simple
4:38because conscientiousness for example is
4:40a very good predictor of long-term life
4:42exess success it's also a very good
4:44predictor of University grades it's not
4:46as good as IQ but it's still a good
4:49predictor but we have had one insanely
4:54difficult time trying to find a
4:55non-self-report test that associate that
4:58that that actually predicts
5:00conscientiousness so much appreciated
5:05yesen
5:08sare no it's neuroticism neuroticism is
5:11associated with being more self-aware
5:13and it's actually it loads on negative
5:15emotion so being self-conscious is
5:17associated with being high in negative
5:19emotion I mean you can assess
5:20neuroticism using tests that that ask
5:24you about anxiety and emotional pain or
5:26depression but that's also not much
5:28different than than than self-report
5:31anyways we're going to concentrate on
5:32openness today and we're going to
5:34concentrate both on creativity and
5:35intelligence and there's actually almost
5:37nothing in Psychology that's more
5:39contentious generally speaking than the
5:42investigations into the the the
5:45technical or the what the the set of
5:47skills and abilities that falls under
5:49Trade openness and the reason for that
5:51and this is especially the case with
5:53intelligence is
5:54that intelligence is actually quite
5:57measurable we've been able to measure it
6:00since roughly the beginning of the of
6:02the of the 20th century um Benet
6:06originated the first I would say
6:09reliable and valid IQ tests and they've
6:12been used quite extensively for a long
6:14period of time and
6:16IQ I'll tell you what IQ is as we go
6:18through this but there isn't anything
6:21that social scientists have been able to
6:22measure more successfully than IQ and
6:25there's nothing that socialist or very
6:27little one there's one exception
6:30the relationship between income
6:32inequality and male homicide is a power
6:36more powerful relationship than the
6:38relationship between IQ say and General
6:40Life success or IQ and general school
6:42Success it's it's even a little stronger
6:44than the relationship between IQ and the
6:47rate at which you learn something new
6:50but other than that it's pretty slim
6:51pickings and so we're going to walk
6:53through very carefully how IQ is IQ
6:57tests are created and formulated and
6:59exactly what it is that they measure and
7:01why and we'll equate that to some degree
7:04to creativity and also differentiate it
7:05from creativity as well making the
7:07assumption that the aspects of openness
7:10intellect and and openness proper are
7:13the proper aspects and that they're
7:14usefully
7:16differentiated so the first thing that
7:18you might want to consider is that the
7:20world is a very complicated place now
7:22we've talked about this before and the
7:24way that you handle there's way too much
7:26complexity for you to handle in its in
7:29its entirety so for example in a room
7:31like this there's an endless number of
7:35phenomena that you could focus your
7:37attention on right from the sort of
7:39macro phenomena which would be the
7:41overall say color or appearance of the
7:43room to the micro phenomena which would
7:45be the details at the highest level of
7:47detail that you're able to perceive that
7:49litter the landscape anywhere and so one
7:51of the problems that you have to solve
7:53when you're operating in the world is
7:54how you perceive the world and we do
7:57that in part by making would say that we
8:00perceive low resolution representations
8:02of the world and we also confuse those
8:04with the world so when I'm looking at
8:05you I'm really looking at a low
8:07represent what I perceive consciously is
8:09a low represent low resolution
8:11representation of you right I only see
8:14the front of you to begin with I only
8:15see your surface
8:17and in some sense you know I even
8:20perceive you in some sense as a more or
8:22less uniform color it's hard to tell
8:24exactly what color skin is it's sort of
8:26a light pink roughly speaking but my my
8:29perception is fairly is fairly I don't
8:32know a better way of putting it than low
8:34resolution and I seem to perceive you at
8:36the level of resolution that's that's
8:38sufficient the the lowest resolution
8:43that's sufficient to facilitate our
8:45interactions because I don't want to
8:47clutter up my perceptions of you when
8:49we're just talking with excess detail so
8:51there's lots of things about you I don't
8:52need to see I certainly can't see any of
8:54your micro structures below the below
8:57the phenomenal level like I can't tell
8:59without tremendous further investigation
9:02What You're Made Of biologically for
9:03example and I certainly can't perceive
9:05the networks of society that you're
9:08engaged in your family or the other
9:10sorts of networks that you're embedded
9:11in I see you here now the front of you
9:14at low resolution and you can tell that
9:17to some degree and we've talked about
9:19this before because if you see say
9:21animated movies that use very low
9:24resolution representations of people
9:26like South Park is a really good example
9:28because the imitate or the animation in
9:30South Park's very iconic and and and and
9:34simple it actually makes almost no
9:36difference to following the story and so
9:38that shows you how iconic your
9:40perception really is can be replaced by
9:42very simple icons and you instantly
9:44adapt to that you know and so we can go
9:46and see The Lego Movie Batman Lego Movie
9:48for example and the fact that it's
9:50Batman which is an abstraction to begin
9:52with and then it's made out of Legos is
9:54almost irrelevant to following the plot
9:56so some people have compared our
9:58perceptions to the user interface on a
10:00computer you know when you're
10:01interacting with your computer you don't
10:03really interact so to speak with the
10:04computer there are iconic
10:06representations on the screen of the
10:08computer that you interact with and
10:10those represent obviously they share
10:12some functional relationship with what's
10:14going on in the computer but mostly
10:16they're there so that you using your
10:18perceptual structures can interact with
10:20the computer in a manner that's easy for
10:22extremely intelligent Apes roughly
10:24speaking now so one of the problems that
10:27you have to solve in the world because
10:28it's so full of detail and so complex is
10:31how do you actually see the world how do
10:33you actually perceive it and it isn't
10:36really self-evident that that's a
10:38problem because you think when you look
10:40at the world that it just presents
10:41itself to you but it's a tremendously
10:43complicated problem and that's partly
10:45why developing artificial intelligence
10:48systems that can actually see the world
10:50and act in it in any real way has proved
10:52to be a much more difficult problem than
10:54people had originally supposed because
10:56you know we were told maybe from the
10:59early 60s onwards that such things as
11:02speech to text or object Rec recognition
11:05or robots that could operate in the
11:07world we're only two or three years away
11:09and well I mean we're in we're in a
11:11situation now where there are some
11:13fairly complicated robots built but
11:14they're still really in their nent form
11:17and it's because perceiving the world
11:18and then figuring out how to act and it
11:19turns out to be a much more complicated
11:22problem than we originally thought
11:24because the borders between things are
11:26not self-evident and what level of
11:28resolution you should be perceiving
11:30things at for say maximal functional
11:32utility is also not self-evident it's
11:35also tied up very strangely and in ways
11:37we don't understand with the nature of
11:39your embodiment you know so for example
11:42we tend to see see things that are handy
11:45because we can pick them up and
11:46manipulate them and we can make use of
11:48them and so to some degree our brains
11:50are evolved to make the world manifest
11:53itself to us in a set of discret usable
11:56tools that's that's a reasonable way of
11:59thinking about it and they're discreet
12:00and usable because we have a certain
12:02kind of biological platform you know
12:04because we have hands and mouths and
12:06because we walk in a bipedal manner then
12:09it's logical for us to break up the
12:11world in a manner that makes operating
12:13in this body maximally useful but that
12:15doesn't mean that there's a
12:16straightforward one-to-one relationship
12:18between our perceptions of things and
12:20the things themselves quite the contrary
12:23and that's partly of course we know that
12:25because with any perceptable object like
12:28I could con cize you as one thing for
12:31all sorts of purposes but if I'm trying
12:35to solve a complex problem in
12:36relationship to you it's going to be
12:37very difficult to determine how to
12:39conceptualize you so if I'm if you come
12:41to me because you're suffering from a
12:44psychological problem of some sort then
12:47I have to figure out you know is it
12:48organic is it is it there's actually
12:50something physiological wrong with you
12:52and I need to know what level of
12:53analysis I would probably conceptualize
12:55you at is it psychological is it and if
12:58it's psychological is it functional like
13:00do you lack the skills or do you lack
13:01the ability to apply the skills or is
13:03there something really gone wrong with
13:04your family or maybe it's even a
13:06reflection of an overarching
13:08sociological problem we know for example
13:10that when the unemployment rate goes up
13:131% psychiatric hospitalizations go up
13:165% and so then you might ask well you
13:18know if you're if there's a huge rise in
13:21depression and anxiety across the
13:23population and at the same time there's
13:24a huge increase in in unemployment you
13:27have to ask yourself what level of
13:29perception would best be suited to solve
13:32that problem because it isn't
13:33self-evident that it's psychological at
13:35the level of the individual anyways my
13:38point is is that perception is a very
13:40difficult problem and so now here's
13:43here's something interesting you can
13:45think about this for a minute I went and
13:47saw an autistic woman speak at one point
13:49her name was Temple grandon she's really
13:52worth looking up Temple grandon is a
13:53very interesting person she's very
13:55seriously autistic when she was a child
13:58but her mother and her worked her out of
14:01it so that she could be she's very
14:03functional she works as a professor I
14:05don't remember where it's in the midwest
14:07somewhere now she's famous not only be
14:11for being a highly functional autistic
14:12person who talks a fair bit about what
14:14it's like to be autistic but also for
14:17Designing slaughter houses across the
14:19United States and the reason she can do
14:21that as far as she's concerned is
14:23because she thinks she thinks like an
14:25animal thinks and so she doesn't and and
14:28she's identified maybe at least part of
14:30what the core problem is with autism so
14:33she the talk I heard her at was in
14:35Arizona and and it was a was a really uh
14:39entrancing talk she showed some showed
14:41some really interesting pictures of
14:43animals so what she's done is she's
14:44redesigned slaughter houses so that when
14:46the animals enter the slaughterous they
14:48go in a like a spiral basically they
14:50can't see what's around the corner and
14:52the walls are high so they're not
14:53distracted by anything outside so one of
14:56the things she showed for example was a
14:58bunch of cows was going through a
14:59standard uh sequence of of gates
15:02essentially and off to the side there
15:04was a windmill spinning and the cows
15:06would stop because the windmill they
15:08didn't understand what the windmill was
15:09and they'd stop or showed other pictures
15:11where cows were going down a pathway too
15:13and there was a Coke can sitting in the
15:15middle of the pathway and the cows would
15:17all stop because they didn't know what
15:18to do with it or she had another picture
15:21of cows out in the middle of the field
15:23all surrounding a briefcase and they
15:25were all looking at the briefcase and
15:26the cows didn't like anything that
15:28shouldn't be there and had a hard time
15:30mapping it now she said here here was a
15:33little exercise she did she said think
15:35of a
15:37church okay so maybe you think you
15:39imagine a child's drawing of a church
15:41it's like your standard house like a
15:43pentag pentagon right which is basically
15:46how children draw the front of a house
15:47with a steeple on top and maybe a cross
15:49on top of it or something like that
15:51which actually isn't at church it's an
15:53icon of a church and you think about how
15:55children draw houses too Pentagon
15:58rectangle
15:59what is it
16:00trapezoid chimney almost always with
16:03smoke which is quite interesting it's I
16:05don't know where kids get that exactly
16:06but they almost always draw a chimney
16:08with smoke even though chimneys with
16:10smoke aren't that common anymore but
16:11anyways you know you you can see what a
16:13child's picture of a house looks like in
16:16your imagination one of the things that
16:17you might want to think about is that is
16:19not a picture of a house at all right
16:21it's an iconic representation that's
16:23kind of like a heroglyph because no
16:25house looks like that and then you think
16:26about how a child will draw a person
16:28Circle stick stick stick stick stick and
16:31you show it to someone they go that's a
16:32person it's like really it looks nothing
16:35like a person right it I mean you you
16:38immediately recognize it as a person but
16:40it looks nothing like a person well what
16:42grandon said was that when she thinks of
16:44a church she has to think of a church
16:47she's seen she can't take the set of all
16:51churches and Abstract out an iconic
16:53representation and use that to represent
16:55the set of all churches she has she gets
16:57fixated on specific Exemplar and she
17:01thinks that one of the problems with
17:03autistic people and they have a very
17:05difficult time uh developing Language by
17:07the way is that they can't abstract out
17:10a generalized representation across a
17:12set of entities they can't abstract and
17:15then they and well and of course if you
17:17can't abstract then it's also very
17:18difficult to manipulate the abstractions
17:20and you see very strange Behavior with
17:22autistic children for example so they
17:23don't like people and that's because
17:26people don't stay in their perceptual
17:28boxes like a human being is a very
17:29difficult thing to perceive because
17:32we're always shifting around and moving
17:33and doing different things like we don't
17:35stay in our categorical box so autistic
17:38people have real trouble with other
17:40people but they also have trouble so for
17:42example if your autistic child gets
17:44accustomed to your kitchen let's say and
17:47you move a chair then then especially if
17:50they're severely autistic they'll have
17:51an absolute fit about it because you
17:54think kitchen with chair moved they
17:57think completely different place because
18:01they can't abstract the the the
18:03constancies across the different
18:05situations and represent them abstractly
18:07so I I made this little
18:11diagram I made this little diagram here
18:13to to kind of give you a sense of what
18:15you might be doing when you're
18:17abstracting perceptually and so you
18:18could say think about something that's
18:21that complicated it's sort of my model
18:23of how complex the world is but the
18:25world is a lot more complex than that
18:26but the world is made out of everything
18:29is made out of little things and those
18:31little things are made out of little
18:32things and so forth and those things are
18:34nested inside bigger things and so forth
18:37and where you perceive on that level of
18:39of abstraction is somewhat arbitrary it
18:41has to be bounded by your by your goals
18:44that's the other thing is that your
18:45perceptual structures are determined by
18:48the goals that you have at hand I mean
18:50some of that's that's not completely
18:51true because your perceptual systems
18:53also have limitations right there's
18:55things you can't see or hear even if you
18:57need to so there limitations built in
18:59but within that set of limitations
19:01you're still trying to tune your
19:03perceptions to your motivated goals and
19:06that's also very useful to think about
19:08when you're trying to understand
19:09artificial intelligence because for
19:11human beings without goals there's no
19:14perception because there's no filtering
19:16mechanism that you can use to determine
19:18the level of resolution at which you
19:19perceive anyway so there's the there's a
19:23thing made of smaller things which are
19:24made out of smaller things and it's so
19:26it's kind of my iconic representation of
19:29the complexity of the world and then you
19:30could think well what is this how can
19:32you see this object and I think if you
19:35just look at it you can detect it's like
19:38a Necker Cube you know those cubes that
19:41that are line drawings that you can see
19:43the front of and then it'll flip to the
19:44back have you seen those so this is kind
19:47of Necker Cube like or at least it is
19:49for me in that when I look at it my
19:52perceptions play around with it
19:53sometimes I focus on the kind of
19:55cross-like shape in the middle and
19:58sometimes I can see these other lines
19:59and then sometimes I'll focus on that
20:01square and sometimes I can see the
20:03little dots there maybe one dot and my
20:06perceptions are going like this trying
20:08to fit a pattern to it and I you can
20:10kind of detect that when you're watching
20:12it and so I would say well you have the
20:14options of perceiving this in its full
20:17complexity or you can simplify it
20:20essentially there's lots of ways you can
20:22simplify it but some of them are laid
20:23out there so you take the comp complex
20:26thing you make a low resolution
20:28represent ation of it so that's its
20:31rough that's the rough area that all
20:32those dots occupy that's the rough area
20:36broken down to its four most fundamental
20:38quadrants that might be how you would
20:40look at it if if this was a map of an
20:41orchard and you were trying to walk from
20:43south to North that would be a useful
20:45representation this combines this and
20:47this that's
20:50the that's the highest level of
20:52resolution that you can perceive this
20:54object at that's lower resolution than
20:57the object itself so the first issue is
21:00how should you look at things well
21:02that's a problem that intelligence has
21:03to solve so that's one of the problems
21:05that intelligence goes after and then I
21:07think what happens is we have the thing
21:09in itself and then we simplify it with a
21:12perception and that's like a an iconic
21:15representation and then we we nail the
21:17iconic representation with a word and
21:19that's how we compress the world's
21:21complexity into something that we can
21:23manage we take the complex thing make it
21:25into an icon and represent the icon with
21:28a word
21:29and then when I throw you the word so to
21:31speak you decompose it into the icon and
21:33then decompose it even further into the
21:35thing if you can't if you know the icon
21:38and you know the thing and so then we
21:40can use shorthand right because you have
21:43representational structures and so do I
21:45and I'm just tossing you markers about
21:47your representational structures and you
21:48can unfold them that's what you do when
21:51you're reading a novel because the novel
21:53comes alive in your imagination in your
21:56own idiosyncratic way and it would
21:59if you didn't understand the references
22:00of the novel right the novelist has to
22:03assume that your basic perceptual
22:05structures and your intuitions and your
22:07instincts are basically the same as his
22:09or hers because otherwise they have to
22:11assume that because otherwise they would
22:13be lost in an infinite regressive
22:15explanation so and it's problematic
22:19often for example if you start reading
22:21Victorian novels you may find that it
22:23takes a while to get into them because
22:25the presuppositions the expectations are
22:27slightly different and so is the
22:29language you have to update the
22:31representations but anyway so that's
22:33roughly as far as I'm concerned that's
22:35roughly a representation of what
22:37intelligence is doing in the world it's
22:39or a big part of it it's how in the
22:40world do you look at things so that you
22:42can use them for the purposes that you
22:44need to use them for and then the next
22:47problem that intelligence has to solve
22:50which is related is once you've got the
22:52perceptual landscape sorted out how do
22:55you abstractly represent the action
22:58pattern p s that you're going to
22:59implement in the world so it's how do
23:02you perceive where you are
23:04now how do you perceive where you're
23:07going and how do you construct up and
23:10then Implement strategies that enable
23:12you to move from where you are to where
23:13you're going so it's a continual process
23:17of mapping and movement and so it's it's
23:20it's navigation that's what we're doing
23:21in the world all the time is navigating
23:23through it because we're mobile
23:24creatures we're navigating through it
23:27attempting to make the world manifest
23:29itself in accordance with our wishes and
23:31that's the fundamental problem that
23:33intelligence has to solve and animals
23:37have their perceptions to rely on but we
23:39have our perceptions and our ability to
23:42abstract from those perceptions multiple
23:45times and then to abstract finally into
23:48into language so we live in a very
23:50abstracted world and it also means that
23:53we can learn a lesson in one place and
23:55generalize it across many other places
23:57which is also something something that
23:58animals have a hard time doing because
24:00they they don't know how to do that
24:03perceptual initial perceptual
24:05generalization
24:10so okay so then the question might be
24:13well if intelligence has to solve the
24:15problem of how to perceive in and
24:18perceive and navigate within the world
24:21towards ends towards in order to fulfill
24:25uh in in order to uh to make the world
24:29manifest what it needs to manifest so
24:30that you can maintain yourself and stay
24:32alive what ends is it orienting itself
24:35towards and I think that's a good way of
24:36thinking about the traits the traits the
24:39traits motivate the perceptual frame and
24:41so you might think that well extroverted
24:43people are after social success and you
24:47can understand why that would be because
24:49social success brings with it all sorts
24:50of
24:51rewards social failure brings costs and
24:54you could also understand why that would
24:56frighten you away from it and social
24:58success also requires the expenditure of
25:01effort and introverted people seem to be
25:03much more conservative in a sense in
25:06terms of expending social expending
25:09energy socially and I suppose they're
25:10protecting themselves to some degree
25:12against the possibility of social
25:13failure we don't really know we know
25:15more about how extroverts in some sense
25:18how and why extroverts Orient themselves
25:20the way they do in the world we're not
25:22so sure about introverts um what it is
25:26that what the what the proper landscape
25:29is for introverts I I can show you a
25:31word cloud I'll do that at some point
25:32that introverts that were generated from
25:35introverts on Facebook and they seem to
25:37be into fantasy and gaming a lot and and
25:41I don't know why that is exactly because
25:43the fantasy element should be more local
25:45localized in openness but the the the
25:48introverted types I mean I suppose
25:50they're the people that are on The Big
25:52Bang Theory roughly speaking you know
25:54they seem to be the introverted types
25:56and um but don't understand that much
25:59about them exactly how it is that
26:01they're orienting themselves in the
26:02world people are high neuroticism are
26:04oriented towards security and safety
26:06agreeable people versus disagreeable
26:08people are oriented say towards
26:10cooperation versus competition
26:12conscientious people are oriented
26:14towards order Duty obligation and
26:16implementation and open people are
26:19oriented towards abstraction in I both
26:21ideational and in representation and so
26:25those are also to some degree you might
26:27also think about those value systems
26:29right because what you value is
26:32definitely not only what you pursue
26:34that's too narrow a view value is also
26:37what you perceive and pursue and so
26:39thinking about these things as this
26:41entire frame of reference I think is a
26:43much better way of doing it we talked
26:45about this earlier this sort of
26:46structure earlier as a micr personality
26:49and I mentioned that determination of
26:52micr personalities by fundamental
26:54underlying biological systems like
26:56defensive aggression and sexual ual um
26:59sexual uh uh desire and hunger and
27:03thirst and so forth those are all
27:05systems that can grab your perceptions
27:08make you look at the world in a certain
27:10way make you pursue something else in a
27:12certain way and Prime action responses
27:15that are in keeping with all of that the
27:17the traits seem to be something like
27:19higher order agglomerations of those
27:22more fundamental biological motivations
27:24although we don't quite understand the
27:26relationship between the underlying
27:28biology and the traits we're starting to
27:30sort it out so we know for example if
27:32you look at the function of the
27:34hypothalamus the hypothalamus regulates
27:37the basic biological motivations that I
27:39just outlined but it's also the place
27:41where the exploratory systems find their
27:44ultimate physiological grounding and
27:46openness and extroversion seem to be
27:49variant manifestations of the
27:51exploratory impulse and that's grounded
27:53into in the hypothalamus so we're
27:55starting to be able to put the traits to
27:57sort of nail the traits down to their
27:59underlying biology with regards to
28:01neuroticism um well if you're high in
28:04neuroticism you're more sensitive to
28:06anxiety and that's regulated at least in
28:08part by the hippocampus and and
28:10generated in part by the amydala there's
28:12another part of the brain called the per
28:14aqueductal gray that seems to be
28:17associated with the experience of pain
28:19and pain is quite a complex phenomena
28:22depression is pain-like grief is
28:24pain-like social isolation is pain-like
28:27dis disappointment is pain-like there's
28:30anxiety components to that too and so
28:32neuroticism seems to be something like
28:34threshold for Activation in those
28:36negative emotion systems so if you're
28:39higher in neuroticism one unit of
28:41uncertainty might produce let's say
28:43three units of psychophysiological
28:45response whereas if you're lower in
28:47neuroticism one unit of uncertainty
28:49might produce one unit of
28:50psychophysiological response it's heart
28:53you know obviously that's a simplified
28:55schemata but there's variability because
28:57if something unexpected or threatening
29:00happens to you it isn't obvious how
29:02upset you should get one answer would
29:04might be brush it off it's nothing
29:07another answer might be it's a bloody
29:09catastrophe and often when something
29:11uncertain or threatening occurs you
29:13don't have enough information at your
29:14disposal to make a full determination of
29:18the potential import of this of the
29:19circumstance especially if it's
29:21uncertain and so then you have to guess
29:23at how upset you should be and where you
29:26are on the normal distribution with
29:28regards to trait neuroticism say that
29:30sort of determines what your guess on
29:33average is going to be so you know the
29:36other with conscientiousness say you
29:38might say well how hard should you work
29:41well that's a really difficult question
29:43if you're going to die tomorrow and then
29:46you probably shouldn't work very hard
29:47today at all so one one thing you might
29:50say is that the degree to which you
29:52should work hard is dependent on your
29:55assumptions about the stability of the
29:56future we actually know this to be true
29:58because if you put people in wildly
30:02uncertain circumstances they discount
30:04the future which is exactly what you
30:06should do right it's only makes sense to
30:08store up goods for future consumption if
30:12the future is likely to be very similar
30:14to the past and the present you need a
30:16stable Society for that and
30:18conscientiousness only works in in a
30:20stable Society because all you do
30:22otherwise if you're piling up Goods
30:24which is kind of what conscientious
30:25people do is leaving them there for the
30:27criminals to take or waiting for the
30:29next chaotic upheaval to wipe out
30:31everything that you've stored and so
30:33even conscientiousness is a kind of
30:35guess hardworking people say well you
30:37know M uh sacrifice the present for the
30:40future that's great as long as the
30:42future is going to be there and you can
30:43predict it but if it's not going to be
30:45there and it's unpredictable then the
30:46right response is take what you can take
30:49right now well the getting's good now
30:51you know obviously there are troubles
30:53with that too and I'm speaking you know
30:56I'm I'm offering rough rules of thumb
30:59but I'm trying to provide you with some
31:01indication of how and why these
31:03difference in value structures exist
31:05because they're applicable in different
31:07environments you know sometimes in a
31:09dangerous social environment it's not
31:11obvious that being an extroverted person
31:13is a good idea because extroverted
31:15people they stand out especially if
31:17they're extroverted and creative right
31:19because not only are they noisy and and
31:22dominant and assertive they're also
31:24colorful and and flamboyant and
31:26provocative well that's great if you're
31:29in a society that rewards that sort of
31:30thing but if you have you know if you're
31:33ruled by an authoritarian King who wants
31:36absolutely no threat whatsoever to his
31:38stability ever then dressing in Gray and
31:42shutting the hell up is a really good
31:44survival tactic so the utility of the
31:48trait depends on the structure of the
31:50environment that surrounds it and that's
31:52why there's variability in traits and so
31:54you you have to be careful when you're
31:57thinking about it from a strict
31:58scientific perspective to make the
32:00assumption that positioning at any place
32:03on the normal distribution is preferable
32:05preferable to positioning anywhere else
32:09now one exception to that maybe might be
32:13IQ because one of the things that you
32:15can see in I with IQ is that people with
32:17higher IQs seem to do better but that's
32:20also only true in complex societies and
32:22then there's another problem that seems
32:24to emerge with IQ and I don't know
32:26exactly what to make of this but we know
32:28that as women's IQ increases the
32:31probability that they're going to be to
32:33remain without a mate also increases
32:36because women tend to mate across or up
32:38dominance hierarchies and so if you're a
32:40woman with an IQ of 130 then you've
32:43already eliminated about 95% of the men
32:46and that's only using one criteria
32:47that's just straight intelligence and so
32:49there also might be limitations to the
32:52to the utility of intelligence with
32:54regards to reproduction that we don't
32:55really understand very well yet
32:58so anyway so you get the point so
33:01there's these underlying I kind of put
33:03down two value structures there
33:05capitalize on social groups that would
33:07be an extroverted value structure saying
33:09maintain order that would be a a
33:12conscientious strategy and conscientious
33:14people are going to want to maintain
33:15order because they don't want things to
33:17shift across time because if they shift
33:19too much across time then the things
33:21that have been stored up for the future
33:23start to become increasingly irrelevant
33:26there's lots of other reasons to
33:27maintain order as well but that's one of
33:29them
33:30so all right so that your cognitive
33:32ability get allows you to do modeling
33:35now this is where human beings have have
33:37leaped ahead of their competition so an
33:41animal animals can
33:43think but it isn't exactly obvious how
33:47they think they think strategically I
33:49think they think the same way that
33:51children think in some sense when
33:53they're playing with Legos when they're
33:54not thinking about the Legos you know
33:56when they're when they're just moving
33:57them around we know like if you watch a
33:59smart Predator group like lions go after
34:02a you know their target or watch
34:04chimpanzees hunt down a monkey you can
34:06see intelligence at work because hunting
34:08behavior is very very complicated
34:10obviously you know especially if you're
34:12chasing something intelligent but there
34:14isn't that level of abstract
34:16representation so where is so let's look
34:21at this so here's here's a here's a a
34:24picture of the of the human brain um
34:28with someone facing this way right so
34:31here's the here's the primary motor
34:33cortex okay so you're using that to
34:35voluntarily move your body okay now then
34:38I might say to you close your eyes and
34:40imagine doing something so just close
34:42your eyes and imagine picking up the cup
34:44that's in front of you and just
34:45visualize it okay so then you might say
34:47well what part of your brain are you
34:49using then and the answer is use part of
34:51this part this part because it that's
34:53where you have your body represented but
34:55use this part here the premotor cortex
34:59to Envision potential actions now what's
35:02happened is that this part of the brain
35:04evolved out of this part and that makes
35:07sense because the first part is just how
35:10you would move but the second part is
35:11how you would think about how you would
35:12move and then the next part which is
35:15this part huge in human beings is how
35:17you would think about how you would
35:19think about how you would move so be
35:22because that enables you to start to do
35:23extraordinary extraordinarily abstract
35:25planning so I I could say well Envision
35:28how you would pick up the cup and
35:30obviously that's something that you've
35:32separated out as a as a potential
35:35simulation from the actual action but we
35:37can talk about extraordinarily high
35:40level abstractions that have effects
35:42across multiple specific domains way
35:44into the future and the more abstract
35:47that your manipulations become the more
35:50they seem to be moved away say from the
35:52primary motor cortex out into the
35:54prefrontal cortex hierarchies of
35:56abstraction and the the reason for that
35:58as this was Carl poer this is really
36:01really worth thinking about why think
36:05let's say you're an animal and you act
36:08and it doesn't go very well then you die
36:10well you've learned that acting that way
36:12didn't work but now you're dead so
36:14that's not that helpful and then you
36:17might think well maybe you should
36:18represent how you're going to act so you
36:20know here's a box with a snake in it and
36:23your coffee cup is inside the box with
36:25the snake in it and I say to you imagine
36:27picking up the coffee cup and you
36:29imagine it you think oh I'll pick up
36:30that coffee cup and then the snake will
36:32bite me and I'll die and so then you do
36:34you decide that implementing the
36:35strategy of picking up the coffee cup is
36:38probably not a very good idea and so
36:40that stupid idea has to die and not you
36:44and so Popper's idea was that the reason
36:46that we developed the capacity to
36:48abstract was so that our stupid ideas
36:50could die instead of us and that's
36:53really it's almost impossible to
36:56overstate how brilliant an observation
36:58that is because what mean what it means
37:00is that like as a standard animal you
37:03would have to produce variants of
37:05yourself reproductively to go out into
37:07the world and try their hand at survival
37:10and that's pretty costly because you
37:11have to produce all the
37:13biological replications of you so you
37:16could only probably manage that maybe 13
37:18times if you really really worked at it
37:20and then then the cost of their failure
37:23is extraordinarily High because they die
37:25while you can just sit there and produce
37:27like 20 different ver versions of
37:29you extending out over the next week or
37:32the next month and you can run them
37:34through a simulation and kill off all
37:36the ones that you don't regard as
37:38suitable and then only implement the
37:40successful ones now you know you could
37:43debate about how accurate you might be
37:46at doing that because it would depend on
37:47your knowledge but we do know that
37:50intelligent people tend to do better
37:52across the course of their life and so
37:55it does seem that there is some
37:58utility with regards to survival or at
38:01least with regards to positioning in the
38:03dominance hierarchy which is somewhat of
38:05a proxy for survival and for
38:06Reproductive success there's some
38:08association between that and the ability
38:10to abstract so we could say that part of
38:14the reason that people got smarter was
38:16because smarter people were more likely
38:17to stay alive now I think it's more
38:19complicated than that too because I
38:21believe that human males and females are
38:23in an evolutionary cognitive arms race
38:26roughly speaking and so as men get
38:29trickier women get trickier to
38:32understand them and then as women get
38:33trickier to understand men get trickier
38:35to understand them and so we've been
38:36chasing each other around this cortical
38:40expansion Loop pretty much since we
38:42parted ways with our common with the
38:45ancestor that we had in common with
38:47chimpanzees and so that's roughly about
38:487 million years ago we've undergone a
38:51tremendous cortical expansion since then
38:53and there's there's lots of reasons that
38:55that have been propelling that
38:58so so what do you have to do when you're
39:01thinking well you have to figure out
39:02where you are and how to see that you
39:04have to figure out where you're going
39:05and what that should be and then you
39:07have to you have to um generate and
39:12represent appropriate action strategies
39:15and simulate those in time and space and
39:18then one of the things that's worth
39:20noting is that's what you do when you
39:21read a story or when you tell a story
39:24and so part of the reason that you like
39:26to read stories is because that's
39:27exactly what story stories are telling
39:29you how someone is going about doing
39:31that and so then you can see how if you
39:34think about preference for fiction which
39:37is actually part of openness preference
39:39for fiction the utility in fiction is
39:42that allows you to experience a plethora
39:45of simulated worlds and to embody the
39:48consequences in abstraction without
39:50having to go through the trouble of
39:52doing that for yourself and we do know
39:54there's good empirical literature now
39:56showing some of it done by ex students
39:58from my lab showing that reading fiction
40:01does improve your interpersonal
40:03intelligence for example your ability to
40:05understand the position of other people
40:07logically enough because that's what
40:08you're doing when you're reading so okay
40:12so I'm trying to give you some
40:15background so that you can understand
40:18what it means to abstract and also why
40:20it's useful because we need that in
40:22order to move forward with the idea of
40:24intelligence so here we go okay so
40:27that's how you act voluntarily and then
40:29that's how you represent how you act
40:31voluntarily and then that's how you
40:33think about how you represent acting
40:35voluntarily and the reason I'm telling
40:37you this is because it's useful to think
40:40about intelligence as abstract action
40:42because we tend to think about
40:44intelligence as abstract representation
40:46right intelligence is the manipulation
40:48of facts or the understanding of facts
40:50but if you look at it neurologically I
40:53would say that's a misapprehension
40:55because the part of the brain that does
40:56the highest level of abstract thinking
40:58is actually something that's emerged
41:00from the motor cortex now you can that
41:02doesn't mean you don't use your
41:03intelligence to represent you do but the
41:07purpose of intelligence is to represent
41:09potential action patterns and we're
41:11embodied creatures and we need to move
41:12in the world and so that's the proper as
41:14far as I'm concerned that's the proper
41:16way to conceptualize intelligence
41:19so and here's a here's a a study I'll
41:22read you the study imagery in the premot
41:25cortex well studies on healthy subjects
41:27have shown a partial overlap between the
41:30motor execution and motor imagery neural
41:33circuits few have investigated brain
41:36activity during motor imagery and stroke
41:38patients with hemiparesis so a partial
41:40overlap between the motor execution and
41:42motor imagery neural circuits well
41:44here's an interesting side consequence
41:46of
41:46that so let's say I'm thirsty and I look
41:51at that glass of water and part of what
41:54happens when I look at the glass of
41:56water is that my eyes activate this
41:59directly so you know I've already talked
42:01to you to some degree about how your
42:02eyes work right there's patterns there
42:04out there in the world the patterns are
42:06mapped onto the the retina so it's a
42:09pattern display uh Matrix and then that
42:14pattern is propagated along the optic
42:15nerve and then that pattern manifests
42:17itself in the visual cortex and then
42:19that pattern manifests itself in the
42:21motor cortex and it manifests itself in
42:23bodily movement or preparation for
42:25bodily movement technically you don't
42:28need conscious imagery for that to
42:30happen now that's something really
42:32useful to know is that your eyes can
42:34activate your body without you being
42:35aware of the image because you think
42:38there's the world I see it then I
42:40determine how to act it's like yes but
42:42also no there's the world and seeing It
42:45prepares me to act forget about the damn
42:47imagery so when I look at that cup part
42:50of
42:51the part of the act of looking at it is
42:55preparing that gesture and that's a
42:57especially the case if I also happen to
42:58be thirsty because if I'm thirsty the
43:01cup signifies something that I can use
43:03to quench my thirst which makes it a
43:06very different thing than what it is
43:08when it's empty or when I'm not thirsty
43:10so I'm not even going to use the same
43:11part of my brain to perceive it because
43:13it's not the same thing in relationship
43:15to me so I look at it and then just just
43:18even just understanding the size of it
43:21there's not much difference between
43:22understanding the size of it and doing
43:24this so you let's see how I got that so
43:27that's pretty
43:28good so that's my under when you ask
43:31well what does it mean to understand
43:33something well that's what it means in
43:36so far as this is a cup because it could
43:38be Tinder for lighting a fire for
43:40example or something to stomp on to make
43:42a noise in so far as it's a cup then
43:46understanding it means pattern mapping
43:48it onto exactly
43:51this and if I do that
43:54successfully then I get a little reward
43:56a little hint a little kick of dopamine
43:59and that dopamine makes me feel a little
44:00bit better but it also bathes the neural
44:04tissue that I use to make that
44:07perceptual that to to to structure that
44:11perception and also to undertake that
44:13act and it makes it just a little bit
44:16more likely that I'll see it that way
44:17and act that way in its presence again
44:20and that's how you learn right you lay
44:21out a perceptual scheme it's got a goal
44:25if the perceptual scheme and it's
44:26associated action patterns make the goal
44:28manifest itself then you get a little
44:30burst of positive emotion click then
44:33that makes it those little the neural
44:35circuits that instantiated that thrive a
44:38little bit and get a little bit more
44:40predominant and that's also why you got
44:42to watch yourself if you're taking
44:43psychomotor stimulants like cocaine or
44:45alcohol even for that matter because
44:47they produce
44:48hyperlearning and so you know I'll
44:51glance at that and maybe it'll trigger
44:52off a bit of thirst but if that was if I
44:55was a cocaine addict and that was
44:56cocaine par parhelia and I glanced at it
44:58was like w that thing that I've built in
45:01my head out of repeated you know massive
45:04hits of dopamine is going to grab my
45:06perceptual structures and my actions and
45:08bring me that'll be that craving which
45:10is an Impulse to move forward towards it
45:12you'll feel that instantiated in your
45:14body that's the craving it's very very
45:17difficult to get rid of that even if
45:19you're if you're a cocaine
45:21abuser and you've gone to a treatment
45:23center for several weeks and got over
45:25the worst of the least initial parts of
45:28of the relearning not to abuse the
45:30second you go back into your natural
45:31environment and take a look at the
45:34cues bang that thing will be right back
45:36there directing your action and what
45:38happens is when one of those perceptual
45:39systems comes up you can see this when
45:41you're hungry it supresses all the other
45:44potential perceptual systems you can see
45:46this when you're angry too right you get
45:47angry and you're angry with your partner
45:50and all you can think of is all the
45:51stupid things they've done for the last
45:5210 years you don't even remember that
45:54you like them it's like you could remind
45:56them I know you're but remember you like
45:58me well not right now you know so so it
46:02just it shows you how those micro
46:04personalities cond Dominate and suppress
46:06that's that's what happens because if
46:08they didn't suppress the other micr
46:09personalities they wouldn't be able to
46:12run themselves to
46:15conclusion and then you'd never get what
46:17you want okay so anyways
46:21um Studies have shown a partial overlap
46:24between the motor execution and motor
46:27imagery neural circuits so what happens
46:30is you see something and it primes you
46:31for the appropriate
46:33action few have investigated brain
46:36activity during motor imagery in stroke
46:38patients with hemiparesis hemiparesis is
46:41is uh motor impairment from from uh from
46:45the stroke this work is exam aimed at
46:47examining similarities between motor
46:49imagery and execution in a group of
46:51stroke patients 11 patients were asked
46:53to perform a visal motor tracking task
46:56by either physically or mentally
46:57tracking a sine wave Force Target using
46:59their thumb and index finger so they're
47:01doing
47:02this during fmri
47:05scanning results whole brain analysis
47:08confirmed shared neural substrates
47:11between motor imagery and motor
47:12execution in bilateral premotor cortex
47:15so that's the part that I was talking
47:16about I won't tell you about the rest of
47:17the brain in parial lulle is is partly
47:21associated with body recognition
47:28so so basically I I I showed you that
47:30study because it it it's one it's one of
47:32the studies that lend Credence to what I
47:34was just describing is that imagery is
47:35the precursor to action and that it's
47:38Associated you get the imagery going
47:40here and the action there think about
47:43think about thinking think act that's
47:46roughly how it
47:49works okay now now down to cognitive
47:53ability
47:54well how can you conceptualize
47:59intelligence well this is a major
48:01problem because your initial
48:03conceptualization determines in part the
48:05strategies that you're going to use to
48:08investigate intelligence and when you
48:10say when you when you pair a sentence
48:12down to what is intelligence the
48:15sentence is problematic because part of
48:17it is a question
48:19about H if and how such a thing might
48:22manifest itself in the world
48:25so there's a fact out there that or set
48:27of facts that corresponds to
48:29intelligence but the other problem is
48:30well what do you mean when you say
48:32intelligence and you kind of have to
48:34nail that down if you're going to have
48:36a conversation about intelligence that
48:39doesn't go entirely astray and so you've
48:41got a you've got a definitional problem
48:43as well as an empirical problem and
48:46so there have been and this was
48:48especially true in the
48:511990s people have been studying
48:53intelligence IQ intelligence since the
48:551920s and and is a very wellestablished
48:58branch of psychology one of the things I
49:00have to tell you about IQ research is
49:03that if you don't buy IQ research you
49:06might as well throw away all the rest of
49:08psychology and the reason for that is
49:11that the psychologists first of all who
49:14developed intelligence testing were
49:16among the early psychologists who
49:17instantiated the statistical techniques
49:20that all psychologists use to verify and
49:22test all of their hypotheses so you end
49:25up throwing the baby out with the bathat
49:27and the IQ people have defined
49:30intelligence in a more stringent
49:33stringent and accurate way than we've
49:35been able to Define almost any other
49:38psychological construct and so if you
49:40toss out the one that's most well
49:42defined then you're kind of stuck with
49:43the problem of what are you going to do
49:44with all the ones that you have left
49:46over that are nowhere near as well
49:48defined or as well measured or as or as
49:51uh or or whose predictive validity is
49:54much less and has been demonstrated with
49:57much less Vigor and Clarity anyways
50:00despite all that people have posited a
50:02number of different intelligences and
50:04reasonably so because there's if you
50:07think of intelligence
50:09as that which might move you forward
50:11successfully in the world obviously
50:13there's a fair number of phenomena that
50:16are associated with individuals that
50:17might fit into that category so we
50:23have people have made these distinctions
50:28Bob Sternberg for example is
50:30distinguished between practical versus
50:32analytical intelligence and he kind of
50:34thinks of practical as like Street
50:36smarts and has attempted to dissociate
50:38that from the kind of analytical
50:40intelligence that um that characterizes
50:43more straight IQ research I I don't
50:45think he's done it successfully as well
50:47at all and since the 1990s interest in
50:51his practical intelligence has declined
50:52precipitously because when it is matched
50:55head-to-head with with standard IQ
50:57intelligence the IQ intelligence eats up
51:00all the variability what's really
51:02happened as far as I can tell so far is
51:04that when we're trying to predict
51:05people's course through
51:08life IQ does a very good job and then
51:10one of the traits does a very good job
51:12as well which is
51:14conscientiousness but it doesn't do as
51:16good a job as IQ now that partly might
51:19be because we can't measure
51:20conscientiousness very
51:22well we're stuck with self-reports or
51:25maybe I could gather peer reports about
51:27you or I could gather your parents
51:28reports about you or teachers reports
51:30and each of those seems to pick up a
51:33little bit more of the pattern because
51:35you know yourself but other people know
51:37you differently than you know yourself
51:39and there's still some accuracy in that
51:41you can get multiple rer reports of
51:43something like conscientiousness and
51:45that'll up its predictive validity but
51:47in the final analysis the best you seem
51:49to be able to do with conscientiousness
51:50is about a point4 correlation with
51:53long-term performance whereas with IQ in
51:55complex jobs you can probably get 0.5
51:57and maybe 6 and so 0.5 is 25% of the
52:01variance you got to square it 6 is 30%
52:0436% of the variance and 04 is 16% of the
52:08variance so even at the low end let's
52:11say high end for conscientiousness is 04
52:14or 16% low end for IQ is 0.5 or 25%
52:19low-end estimates of IQ make it one and
52:21a half times more powerful than the
52:22high-end estimates of conscientiousness
52:25and I think that's about right you'd
52:26think why do we even have to debate this
52:28and because it's so bloody obvious to me
52:30that intelligence is a major predictor
52:32of Life success I mean you people I
52:34measured the IQ of University of Toronto
52:36people you know people in this room who
52:38have an IQ of less than 120 are rare
52:42well why well smart people go to
52:44university now is that actually a
52:46contentious statement well it shouldn't
52:48be a contentious statement it's
52:50self-evident universities were actually
52:51set up so that smart people could expand
52:54their abilities that's why they were
52:55there and you're selected on the basis
52:57of Assessments that are essentially
52:59there to assess something like
53:09intelligence yes but that that well
53:11that's that's well that is part of the
53:13controversy is it reasonable and this is
53:15a measurement issue and that's why we're
53:18that's why I've been instructing you to
53:19some degree in psychometrics because we
53:21actually know how to do this we know how
53:23to answer that question so let's take a
53:25look at how at how intelligence has been
53:28assessed and why and then you can make
53:30up your own mind anyways here's some of
53:32the examples of other forms of
53:36intelligence and so then the question is
53:38well what does it mean to have a
53:40different form of intelligence would
53:42would form a and Form B be completely
53:45uncorrelated like extroversion say in
53:47neuroticism or would they be slightly
53:48correlated or would they be highly
53:50correlated and then you might ask well
53:51how highly correlated do they have to be
53:54before they're the same thing or how
53:57uncorrelated do they have to be before
53:58they're different things and actually
54:00the answer to that comes down to
54:02something like practical utility it's
54:04like imagine I'm trying to figure out
54:06how well you'll do in University and I
54:08measure one thing and it's correlated at
54:117 with another thing I measure about you
54:13then I might say well are those two
54:14things the same or different they're
54:15pretty highly correlated you're high in
54:17one it means you're going to be high in
54:18the other well so what is there any
54:21utility in measuring both things and the
54:23way you figure that out actually is you
54:25do it statistically so we take the
54:27target which might be your performance
54:30across University then we say well can
54:32we predict your performance across
54:34University better by using one variable
54:37or two variables so we would enter them
54:39both into a regression equation all a
54:41regression equation does it's quite
54:43simple so you're trying to predict the
54:46Target and the regression AG the
54:48regression equation tells you how well
54:50you can predict that Target if you know
54:53another fact now then gets a little
54:56complicated because that's a correlation
54:58how well you can predict B with a well a
55:02regression will say how much you can
55:04predict C if you know a and b or a and b
55:08and c and d and e because you can use
55:10multiple predictors and you can waight
55:12them so it might be 2 * a + 1 * b equals
55:15c and that's all a regression equation
55:17does it's just multiplication and
55:19addition very very straightforward and
55:21so two variables are sufficiently
55:24different functionally if you can use
55:26both of them simultaneously to predict
55:28something of Interest so again it's a
55:30tool likee approach this is how the
55:32psychometricians do it is something real
55:34well it's real if you can measure
55:36measure it and it helps you predict
55:38that's that's how it's defined so then
55:40you might say well
55:42are are there these multiple
55:44intelligences well the first question
55:46would be well what do you mean by are
55:48there and the answer to that would be
55:51well let's specify the question since
55:53we're going to be scientific about it
55:55let's predict how well people do in
55:56University we'll start with the
55:57assumption that
56:00intelligence if intelligence isn't
56:03associated with University success then
56:05you're probably not talking about
56:07intelligence now you could argue that
56:09right because you could say well
56:10intelligence has nothing to do with
56:12University success but that's a
56:13definitional matter we'd have to agree
56:15to begin with is it reasonable to start
56:19with the presupposition that
56:20intelligence and University success
56:22share something in common well I think
56:24you have to be daed to
56:26to deny that initial proposition
56:29although you
56:31could because you could say it was
56:33privilege or socioeconomic status or or
56:35or or any number of sociological
56:38phenomena and some of those are
56:39obviously relevant social class for
56:41example because you know if you're in a
56:43higher social class and all things being
56:47equal intelligence included if you're in
56:49a higher social class you're more likely
56:51to go to university than you are if
56:52you're in a lower social class so
56:54there's other there's other factors that
56:56are going to influence whether or not
56:57you do well in University but we're
56:59going to assume that one of them might
57:00be
57:02intelligence well then you would ask
57:04well if you measured social
57:08intelligence so that's what do they call
57:10that social intelligence no emotional
57:12intelligence which does not exist by the
57:14way emotional intelligence moral
57:16intelligence linguistic musical logical
57:18mathematical spatial body kinesthetic
57:21interpersonal and interpersonal all
57:23different forms of intelligence okay so
57:25to answer the question question of
57:26whether they exist what you do first is
57:29pick a Target prediction of University
57:31performance then you make a measure for
57:33each of them then you test to see if the
57:36measure measured the same thing across
57:38multiple instances within the same
57:39person that's a reliability test because
57:41what the hell good is your ruler if it
57:43stretches when you use it it has to
57:45measure the same thing multiple times
57:47and then you would say okay we'll take
57:49all these different intelligences
57:51measured the way we've decided to
57:53measure them the first thing we'll do is
57:54see how highly correlated are CU if
57:57they're complete two of them are
57:58completely correlated then you have one
58:00you don't have two CU that's the
58:01virtually the definition of one instead
58:04of two you can Factor analyze them and
58:06see if you can pull out what's common
58:08across all of them that's another thing
58:10because then you might say well
58:11intelligence is what's common across all
58:13the measures of these intelligences it's
58:16it's a proposition it's not a fact you
58:18have to decide if you're going to agree
58:19with it but that if you were going to do
58:21that you'd use a factor analysis and
58:23you'd say well if someone was more
58:25likely to be musical if they were also
58:27high in linguistic ability and more
58:29likely to be logical and mathematically
58:31inclined if they had high spatial
58:32ability Etc then you'd be hypothesizing
58:35that there was one factor behind all of
58:37those manifestations that's somehow
58:40similar and maybe there wouldn't be and
58:42then you'd take all your measures and
58:43you'd put them in something like a
58:44multiple regression analysis and you'd
58:46predict your Target University
58:48performance and then maybe you'd say
58:50well wait a minute let's not just use
58:52University performance let's use Junior
58:56high performance high school performance
58:58University performance and job success
59:01and then let's say that only things that
59:03predict success across all of those
59:05categories and that are the same we're
59:07going to Define as intelligence well
59:09that's basically how you end up with
59:13IQ you could say that IQ is what's
59:16common across all possible sets of of
59:18intelligence tests now people are going
59:22to debate that because you still have to
59:25Define what constitutes a test but the
59:28way the psychometricians have managed it
59:30and have taken care of this at least to
59:31some degree is to say well we're going
59:35to we're not going to Define everything
59:36that we measure as intelligence so
59:38extroverted people are more socially
59:40fluent are we going to call that
59:41intelligence no we're going to call that
59:44personality we're going to call that
59:45extroversion and we're going to call
59:46stress tolerance you could say well if
59:49you can tolerate more stress you're more
59:51intelligent it's like well no that isn't
59:53how we've defined it we're going to
59:54Define that as being lower in aism if
59:57you're Cooperative you're more
59:58intelligent that's emotional
1:00:00intelligence well what you're less
1:00:02intelligent if you're competitive well
1:00:04no so we parsed that off to
1:00:05agreeableness so then the question might
1:00:07be is there anything left of these
1:00:09so-called intelligences once you control
1:00:12for personality and IQ and the answer is
1:00:16no nothing nothing left of them and the
1:00:20people who keep pushing these ideas keep
1:00:22trying to push them because they don't
1:00:23like the idea of real individual
1:00:25differences and to me that's just a
1:00:26matter of sticking your damn head in the
1:00:28sand because it's obvious here you're
1:00:31going to have a child you want the child
1:00:33to have an IQ of 65 or 145 decide okay
1:00:37so you're all going to vote okay you
1:00:39think any one of you is going to vote to
1:00:40have a child with an IQ of 65 that
1:00:42child's going to have a hard time
1:00:44developing even linguistic ability
1:00:46they're never going to learn to read
1:00:48right they're never going to leave home
1:00:50in all likelihood so which child are you
1:00:52going to pick well so do you believe in
1:00:54intelligence or not well obviously if
1:00:56you have any sense um so let's say we
1:00:59took off all the labels and we just for
1:01:01every time something statistically came
1:01:03out other we just gave it a
1:01:07lab so all these things just have their
1:01:10statistical validity and just names so
1:01:13then we're going to assign Nam to them
1:01:14after are we assigning the names based
1:01:16on what we consider to be reasonable
1:01:18okay that's a good question so look here
1:01:20here's one thing so let's say this is
1:01:22actually what happened when people
1:01:23developed the big five so I'm going to
1:01:25give a very large number of people every
1:01:28question every a huge set of questions
1:01:30that cover every element of their
1:01:32personality I can think of it's agnostic
1:01:35right what I'm really trying to do is
1:01:36come up with the biggest possible set of
1:01:38descriptors that someone could actually
1:01:41fill out that's a li you know I can't
1:01:42give you 10,000 questions that's just so
1:01:45maybe i' take a set of 10,000 questions
1:01:47and randomly select a few sets of a 100
1:01:50right because then I I would have
1:01:52represented the entire set then I give
1:01:54them to a th people agnos
1:01:56then I do the factor analysis bang five
1:01:58factors come out and then the factor
1:02:00analysis tells me which questions load
1:02:03on each factor and what the factor
1:02:04analysis is saying here's 20 questions
1:02:07and there's something about them that's
1:02:08the same so then I read the questions
1:02:10and I think well those questions are
1:02:12referring to something the same what is
1:02:15that well then maybe I talk to three
1:02:16colleagues and we think well that's
1:02:18something like sociability bang we have
1:02:20a name and then we could go see now that
1:02:23we have a measure of sociability we
1:02:25could go associate it with other
1:02:27measures of sociability like we might
1:02:28say well are people who score high on
1:02:31this measure of sociability more likely
1:02:33to go to parties and the answer would be
1:02:35yes because what happens if you take
1:02:3810,000 questions about personality and
1:02:40randomly select sets of a 100 and give
1:02:42each of them to a thousand people and do
1:02:44a factor analysis the first factor is
1:02:47extroversion and it's the it's the
1:02:49factor in human personality that seems
1:02:50to pick up the biggest amount of variant
1:02:53and so so then we say from a statistical
1:02:55perspective Ive extroversion is real but
1:02:57we Define real real means that if you
1:03:00use linguistic
1:03:02representation randomly applied across
1:03:05large sets of people and you factor
1:03:07analyze it these come out as Clump
1:03:08together because you have to Define what
1:03:11constitutes real if you're going to play
1:03:12that this is real game which is
1:03:14basically what you're doing in science
1:03:15and so that's what happened with the big
1:03:17five and then people started to look
1:03:18well okay is there a biological
1:03:20substrate for this bang turns out there
1:03:22is incentive reward that's the positive
1:03:24reward system so and then well
1:03:27neuroticism that's often but not always
1:03:29the second Factor well is there a
1:03:31biological basis for it yes threat
1:03:33sensitivity and pain sensitivity they
1:03:35seem to lock together agreeableness
1:03:38that's the care system that yak PP has
1:03:40identified so that's basically that's
1:03:42basically maternity it's something like
1:03:44that you had another question
1:03:57people intelligence well it's because we
1:04:00found out how to measure intelligence so
1:04:02and I'll get into that right now so then
1:04:04the question is well how do you measure
1:04:05intelligence okay well it's similar it's
1:04:08similar to this linguistic approach but
1:04:12here's how it
1:04:13differs generate 10,000 questions that
1:04:16require knowledge and you get get 50
1:04:18people to do it and have them and have
1:04:20them be of diverse opinions about what
1:04:23constitutes knowledge so much the better
1:04:25then you cover the you want to over
1:04:27sample the territory so you want to have
1:04:28some qu questions in there that only one
1:04:30person out of 50 would think that
1:04:32measures intelligence because you can
1:04:34oversample the statistics will take care
1:04:36of that so you want to answer ask more
1:04:38questions than you think are reasonable
1:04:40and that's part of the way that you get
1:04:42rid of bias in the sampling it's like
1:04:44you think go find out 10 questions that
1:04:47someone could answer if you think
1:04:48they're intelligent I don't care what
1:04:49they are and then 50 of you do that
1:04:51bring me the questions well let's say we
1:04:53get a nice set of 10,000 questions
1:04:56then we can take random sets of a 100
1:04:59and give them to a th people and then we
1:05:01can score their answers to the questions
1:05:04and then we can rank order we could say
1:05:06correlate their performance across
1:05:08different sets of questions so I give
1:05:10you one set of 100 questions you score
1:05:1290 I give you another set of questions
1:05:14you score so 90 out of 100 you score 10
1:05:17out of 100 well then we would think if a
1:05:19bunch of people did that those aren't
1:05:20measuring the same thing because if
1:05:22you're high on one you should be high on
1:05:24all of them well with IQ it's like if
1:05:26you do that the reliability is like 0. n
1:05:29it's
1:05:30unbelievable you take one set of 100
1:05:32questions you rank order people you take
1:05:35another set of 100 questions you rank
1:05:37order people you correlate the rank
1:05:39orders it's like this it's 0. n the
1:05:43people who did well on one do well on
1:05:44all of them the people who did bad on
1:05:46one do bad on all of them that's IQ or
1:05:49more technically this is what IQ is take
1:05:53a thousand people and give them 20 tests
1:05:56of 100 items and then Factor analyze the
1:05:5920 tests and extract out the central
1:06:01Factor that's
1:06:03G that's fluid intelligence so then what
1:06:06do you do with that well then you can
1:06:08try to use it then you can see well is
1:06:09there a biological basis for this is
1:06:11there something about if you're higher
1:06:13in the ability to operate across these
1:06:15sets of questions are there things about
1:06:17you that are physiologically different
1:06:18and the answer to that is yes your
1:06:21reaction time is faster just simple
1:06:23reaction time so light turn on you push
1:06:26a button light turns on you push a
1:06:27button okay there's a lag between the
1:06:29light going on and you pushing the
1:06:30button the shorter the lag the smarter
1:06:32you are well what is it and that's
1:06:35really interesting because you know if
1:06:37you're perceiving something
1:06:39complex it takes a lot of neural
1:06:42connections to generate the perception
1:06:44but simple reaction time is like two
1:06:46neurons whack there's no complexity in
1:06:48that at all and yet how fast you are at
1:06:51that is still correlated only at about
1:06:530.25 but that's not trivial if you're
1:06:56doing research in Psychology generally
1:06:58speaking and you come out with a 0.25
1:07:00correlation between whatever you're
1:07:01measuring and whatever you're interested
1:07:03in you're having a pretty good day 0.25
1:07:05is not bad at all and so it's not
1:07:08accounting for all of it but it's
1:07:09accounting for a fair bit of it how big
1:07:11your head is that's also correlated how
1:07:14how big your brain is physically and
1:07:16then even more accurately how big your
1:07:18brain is in relationship to your body
1:07:21now again these are small correlations
1:07:22but they're not they're not
1:07:24nonsignificant
1:07:26what else nerve peripheral nerve
1:07:28conduction velocity that's this study
1:07:31two studies with sample sizes of 90 and
1:07:3390 roughly speaking are reported that
1:07:35investigated relationships among
1:07:36measures of intelligence speed of
1:07:37information processing and peripheral
1:07:39nerve conduction velocity in both
1:07:41studies neural conduction velocity was
1:07:44significantly correlated with IQ scores
1:07:46042 and 048 man that's a whopping
1:07:49correlation how do I know that because a
1:07:51guy named hemp Hill where is he right
1:07:54there you might say well how big is a
1:07:57correlation coefficient before you call
1:07:59it Big and the answer to that is
1:08:01generally let's guess so if you talk to
1:08:04psychologists and they talk to you about
1:08:06how big effect sizes are they use
1:08:08guesses that were generated by
1:08:10statisticians in the 50s and so they
1:08:13radically underestimate the actual
1:08:15magnitude of correlation coefficients
1:08:17because they never studied it
1:08:18empirically well this guy hhal because
1:08:21how big is a correlation coefficient to
1:08:23be big how do you answer that take a
1:08:26thousand psychology studies rank order
1:08:28the effect sizes and break them into
1:08:31percentiles right that's an empirical
1:08:32way of doing it how big is the effect
1:08:34that the typical study generates then
1:08:36you can use that as a way of assessing
1:08:39how impressive the effect is that you
1:08:41generated okay so this is it here hemp
1:08:43Hill 2003 interpreting the magnitude of
1:08:46Co correlation coefficients now you
1:08:49could say that's a Dopey way to do it
1:08:50because wide defined size in accordance
1:08:53with the size that people have
1:08:55discovered and hemp Hill would say well
1:08:57that's because I'm doing it this way
1:08:59with this paper if you want to do it a
1:09:01different way go right ahead but there's
1:09:03utility in this you come up with an R of
1:09:06point2 How likely is it that your next
1:09:09paper is going to have an effect size of
1:09:10that magnitude how happy should you be
1:09:13well the answer is a lot happier than
1:09:14you think
1:09:16so to get an R of 05 that's 25% of the
1:09:20variance so you still have 75% of what's
1:09:22ever explaining your phenomena left to
1:09:24be explained
1:09:26R of5 90 to 90 97th percentile so 19 out
1:09:31of 20 psychology studies that are
1:09:33published and that's a hell of a lot
1:09:35more fewer psychology studies than exist
1:09:37right because this tiny fraction of them
1:09:39get published 95% of them show a a
1:09:42correlation coefficient of less than 0.5
1:09:45for for third. 35 to 050 it's that's
1:09:49greater than 75% of them 0.15 to35 is
1:09:53pretty typical and the typical
1:09:55correlation between a personality trait
1:09:57and the target of interest is usually
1:09:59something in the neighborhood of 0. 2 to
1:10:010.25 with IQ you get up to 0.5 the
1:10:04relationship between income inequality
1:10:06and male homicide is like 75 it just
1:10:09covers all of it which is to say
1:10:11that everywhere that everyone's poor
1:10:14there's no male homicide and everywhere
1:10:16that everyone's Rich there's no male
1:10:18homicide but places where there's poor
1:10:20people and rich people the male homicide
1:10:22rate goes way the hell up right
1:10:24especially if it's a steep distribution
1:10:27because the men at the bottom think
1:10:29somebody has a lot more than me and
1:10:30that's not very fair I'm going to do
1:10:32something about that and that usually
1:10:33means killing other men and so it's a
1:10:36it's unbelievably powerful relationship
1:10:38that's a useful thing to keep squired
1:10:39away in your imagination poverty does
1:10:42not cause
1:10:43crime relative poverty causes crime that
1:10:47is a completely different thing
1:10:51so and it's dominance hierarchy issue
1:10:53fundamentally it's man man are generally
1:10:55the criminals and as the dominance
1:10:57hierarchy gets harder to climb the young
1:10:58men especially the aggressive ones get
1:11:00more likely to turn to violence you
1:11:02really need to know that it's a
1:11:03incredibly important fact I'm going to
1:11:06interview the guy who figured that out
1:11:07Martin Dy I'm going to interview him for
1:11:09one of my podcasts in the next month or
1:11:10so so you might be interested in tuning
1:11:12in on that if you're interested in this
1:11:13sort of thing okay so back to these
1:11:16correlations look peripheral nerve
1:11:18conduction velocity is correlated with
1:11:20IQ at like Point let's say 045 it's a
1:11:23whopping effect man and that's that's a
1:11:26pretty straightforward thing speed of
1:11:28electrical propagation along your neural
1:11:30tissue determines how intelligent you
1:11:32are well is that really so surprising
1:11:34you'd expect if that's associated with
1:11:36neurological integrity at least to some
1:11:39degree it's exactly the sort of thing
1:11:40you'd expect but it shows you how
1:11:42biologically based it is too faster
1:11:45neural conductance velocity was
1:11:46associated with higher IQ scores and
1:11:48faster speed of processing
1:11:51why who knows here's a hypothesis
1:11:56um what if you're trying to remember a
1:11:59phone number just the seven digigit one
1:12:00what do you do when you're remembering
1:12:02the phone number you say it over and
1:12:03over again right or you or you if you
1:12:05don't say it you think it over and over
1:12:07again and if someone distracts you then
1:12:10you lose it that's working memory
1:12:12roughly speaking and your working memory
1:12:15capacity so imagine you could do four
1:12:18digits and remember them you could do
1:12:20six you could do eight you could do 12
1:12:23likely not 12 is really pushing it
1:12:25that's a great estimator of IQ working
1:12:27memory in fact there's almost no
1:12:30neuropsychologists like to think that
1:12:32working memory is something in and of
1:12:34itself but that's because they don't
1:12:35know a damn thing about psychometrics
1:12:36generally speaking there's almost no
1:12:38difference between fluid intelligence
1:12:40and working memory and the reason for
1:12:41that is that all measures of
1:12:44intellectual function collapse into G
1:12:48and so we can take a look at what that
1:12:49means this is from this character here
1:12:53Carol John Carrol if you want to know
1:12:56everything there is to know about IQ
1:12:58this is a book that everyone who's a
1:13:00psychologist should it should you
1:13:02shouldn't be able to be a psychologist
1:13:03unless you've read this book in my
1:13:04estimation there's a couple of key texts
1:13:06and this is one of them this guy Carol
1:13:08wrote this thick book you don't have to
1:13:10read the whole thing because a lot of
1:13:11it's just in some sense demonstrations
1:13:13and proof of what he's saying but what
1:13:15he did for IQ is the same thing that
1:13:17psychometricians did for the big five
1:13:20you've got the big two at the top
1:13:22they're not very highly correlated I
1:13:23think it's about 2 something like that
1:13:25so they're pretty independent then they
1:13:28fragment into the big five and then you
1:13:29can differentiate them further into the
1:13:31Big 10 and there really are five
1:13:34different traits because they're only
1:13:36correlated with each other at about 2
1:13:39to3 they're really quite
1:13:41distinct um the question is if you
1:13:45fractionate IQ how correlated are the
1:13:48things that you fractionated into and
1:13:50the answer to that is 08 or 0.9 there's
1:13:53one factor IQ roughly speaking you if
1:13:57you if you
1:13:59take imagine that you you took an IQ
1:14:02test and you
1:14:05took it was 100 items long and you took
1:14:07the 50 items that were the most
1:14:09correlated with each other and then the
1:14:1150 items that were the least correlated
1:14:14with those 50 items so you broke it into
1:14:16two as much as you could you maximally
1:14:18differentiated it you might ask well how
1:14:21correlated would the scores be on those
1:14:23two different subsets and the answer
1:14:24would be like 0.
1:14:26n because there isn't two things that
1:14:29you're measuring even if you break it up
1:14:30that way post Haw and say well it's
1:14:32unfair but we're going to say because
1:14:34these are the 50 most highly correlated
1:14:37and these are the leftovers like we're
1:14:38really capitalizing on chance there
1:14:40you're still going to get an almost
1:14:42identical readout from both sections of
1:14:44the IQ test and it's just not the same
1:14:47with personality so and so this is this
1:14:49is Carol's model
1:14:51basically stratum 3 that's the highest
1:14:54level of abstraction that's fluid
1:14:55intelligence and then you can break it
1:14:57down into these subcategories of
1:14:59cognitive ability and you might say well
1:15:02how different are those subcategories
1:15:04and the answer is not very if you're
1:15:06high in one you're very likely to be
1:15:08high in all of them now there's a bit of
1:15:09a coda to that which is that the lower
1:15:13your
1:15:14IQ the higher the correlation between
1:15:17these sub aspects of intelligence the
1:15:20lower your IQ the higher the correlation
1:15:23between the sub aspects of intelligence
1:15:25as you get up into the higher strata of
1:15:27IQ your your intelligence differentiates
1:15:30more across the potential range of
1:15:32differentiation which is to say there's
1:15:34one way of not being very
1:15:36bright but there's multiple ways of
1:15:38being bright so but even even so if
1:15:42you're high on one you're still quite
1:15:43likely to be high on the rest of them so
1:15:45then the question is what's the
1:15:46correlation between G and each of these
1:15:49sub elements of G and then what's the
1:15:51correlation between the sub elements of
1:15:52G themselves so if this was PL itic it
1:15:55and we were looking at openness and
1:15:57extroversion the correlation here would
1:16:00be about point I think it's about 0.5
1:16:02something like that and the correlation
1:16:04between openness and extraversion would
1:16:05be about. 3 quite a bit of difference
1:16:08but with this there's G there's the sub
1:16:12elements there's the correlation
1:16:15coefficients 0. n almost
1:16:180.95 Point what is that 6 or 8 88 6889
1:16:25pretty much n pretty much well you can
1:16:27fractionate it the best you possibly can
1:16:30doesn't matter it's one thing it's one
1:16:33thing and it looks like it's the ability
1:16:35to abstractly represent and then to
1:16:37manipulate the abstractions I said with
1:16:39working memory you know you can get it
1:16:42that simply how many digits can you keep
1:16:45in your head simultaneously without
1:16:47dropping one that's it God it's
1:16:50unbelievable it's pretty straightforward
1:16:52and then it's this viciously powerful
1:16:54predictor long-term life success
1:16:56probably prediction of around 05 now
1:16:59psychologists okay psychologists hate
1:17:02this they won't admit that it exists
1:17:05and I think it's because there's
1:17:07something about intelligence that rubs
1:17:09against our intrinsic egalitarianism
1:17:11right there's two things that do it
1:17:13first let's say you're successful you
1:17:15like to think I'm successful you know
1:17:17and you like to attribute it to your own
1:17:19doing and fair enough you know I'm not
1:17:21saying that there isn't an element of it
1:17:23that's your own doing whatever means but
1:17:26if your nerve conductive velocity
1:17:28happens to be high there's a lot more
1:17:31probability that you're going to be
1:17:32successful and it's kind of hard to
1:17:34blame that on you or to attribute it to
1:17:35you for that matter so it it indicates a
1:17:39kind of statistical arbitrariness about
1:17:41the distribution of success and failure
1:17:43in our society okay so that's one thing
1:17:45people don't like that idea the second
1:17:47thing is is that it turns out to be very
1:17:51difficult to raise IQ now It's Tricky
1:17:54because it looks like you can raise IQ
1:17:56across whole populations because at
1:17:59least fluid intelligence looks like it's
1:18:01been rising quite substantially over the
1:18:03last 100 years maybe as people are
1:18:05better nourished and better educated but
1:18:08also more prone to continually
1:18:10manipulate abstractions in their life
1:18:12because I I mean kids start with
1:18:13computers when they're like two you know
1:18:15so but if you take a group of people and
1:18:19you try to if you take a group of low IQ
1:18:22people and you try to raise their IQ
1:18:24it's very very difficult to manage it
1:18:25without a tremendous amount of
1:18:27investment that doesn't necessarily mean
1:18:29the investment isn't worthwhile but it
1:18:30does mean that it's very
1:18:35difficult well the best thing to do as
1:18:37far as we can tell the best thing to do
1:18:39is get nourishment right that seems to
1:18:41be the most effective yeah yeah yeah so
1:18:44part of the reason part of the reason
1:18:46the theory is part of the reason that
1:18:48population IQs have been increasing over
1:18:50the last 100 years is because there's
1:18:52just no one left who's seriously enough
1:18:55malnourished so that it's going to
1:18:56profoundly impact their intellectual
1:18:58capabilities so breastfeeding seems to
1:19:01raise IQ so it's two two points three
1:19:03points with every year of breastfeeding
1:19:05it's something like that so it's it's
1:19:07it's and that's actually quite a lot two
1:19:08or three points actually makes a
1:19:09difference as it turns out
1:19:12so okay so so is IQ real depends what
1:19:17you mean by
1:19:18real IQ is averaged performance across
1:19:23averaged sets of questions that require
1:19:25abstraction to conceive of and and
1:19:28answer is it
1:19:29real well it's real statistically and
1:19:32you can use it to predict important
1:19:34outcomes that other things can't predict
1:19:38and from a scientific perspective and
1:19:40and it's also correlated with various
1:19:42physiological and biological phenomena
1:19:45well that's that's how you define real
1:19:47scientifically so yes it's real are
1:19:49there other factors that determine
1:19:52people's success and worth I keep isn't
1:19:54a measure of people's worth in any
1:19:56intrinsic sense it's a it's an estimate
1:19:59of their ability to succeed in AB in
1:20:02hierarchies that are dependent on the
1:20:04ability to manipulate complex sets of
1:20:06information there's lots of other things
1:20:08about people that differentiate them in
1:20:10terms of quality and quantity and all of
1:20:12those things and the the most evident of
1:20:15those are the big five traits now if
1:20:17you're a psychologist this is another
1:20:18thing every psychologist should be
1:20:21taught if you want
1:20:23to discover something about human beings
1:20:26that hasn't already been discovered the
1:20:28first thing you should do is make sure
1:20:29it isn't IQ and it isn't any of the big
1:20:32five traits and psychologists almost
1:20:35never do that because what happens is
1:20:36that if they control for IQ so in a
1:20:39regression you'd say okay here's the
1:20:40thing I'm interested in predicting the
1:20:42first thing we're going to do is add IQ
1:20:44and not a measure that you took in five
1:20:46minutes either like a real IQ test
1:20:48because you want to use a good measure
1:20:50to test your hypothesis against and not
1:20:52a 10 item measure of the big five either
1:20:55like a 100 item measure so you get a
1:20:56reliable measure you throw in IQ you
1:20:59throw in the big five and then you throw
1:21:01in your Dopey construct and then you see
1:21:03if it can predict anything and the
1:21:05answer is no and so psychologists don't
1:21:07do it because whenever they do it
1:21:09properly it destroys their construct and
1:21:11that makes them irritated because their
1:21:14claim to their position of authority in
1:21:16the educational dominance hierarchy is
1:21:19predicated on the validity of their
1:21:21construct now if you're a real scientist
1:21:23what you try to do is destroy destroy
1:21:24your construct you think okay it looks
1:21:28like this is real then you think it's
1:21:30probably not and I don't want to spend
1:21:32the next 10 years chasing a ghost and a
1:21:34chimera so I'm going to try to destroy
1:21:37the damn thing so you say well we'll
1:21:39match it up against a good measure of IQ
1:21:41and a comprehensive big five and it
1:21:43still survives we'll do a couple of
1:21:45replications to make sure that we can't
1:21:46kill it any other way and maybe we'll do
1:21:49the statistics three or four different
1:21:50ways to make sure that the thing just
1:21:52doesn't disappear when you use a diff
1:21:54different statistical procedure and
1:21:56people don't do that and that's why the
1:21:58replication rate even among
1:22:00wellestablished psychological findings
1:22:02so to speak ones that have been highly
1:22:04cited is extraordinarily low and if you
1:22:07talk to psychologists they'll wave their
1:22:09hands and they'll say well I don't
1:22:10really believe an IQ it's like okay you
1:22:12know we're not talking about uh what do
1:22:14you call those what did the Ghostbusters
1:22:17hunt down we're not talking about
1:22:19paranormal phenomena they're not things
1:22:21you get to believe in or not right
1:22:23they're rules TOS for defining what
1:22:25constitutes something that's real from a
1:22:27scientific perspective and a
1:22:28psychometric perspective so you don't
1:22:30get to say well I'll apply one
1:22:32definition of reality because I don't
1:22:33like IQ and then I'll use the same
1:22:36definition to justify my own constructs
1:22:38like sorry that isn't how it works not
1:22:40you can do that if you're a
1:22:42postmodernist you can do that but if
1:22:43you're a person who actually thinks
1:22:45scientifically you don't get to play
1:22:46that game so now you know part of the
1:22:50reason that we need to know about these
1:22:51sorts of
1:22:52things let's see how are we doing for
1:22:55time here oh yeah we're doing good I
1:22:59think we need to know these things
1:23:00partly because they have policy
1:23:01implications first of all you need to
1:23:03know them for your own life because you
1:23:06got to know that there are differences
1:23:07in intelligence it's really important if
1:23:09you go into a job and you're not smart
1:23:11enough for that job you're going to have
1:23:13one bloody miserable time and you're
1:23:15going to make life wretched for the
1:23:17people around you because you won't be
1:23:18able to handle the position and as you
1:23:20climb hierarchies of competence the
1:23:22demand on fluid intelligence increases
1:23:25and so unless you want to fail you don't
1:23:27put yourself in over your head well
1:23:29what's over your head well that's a
1:23:31tricky thing to figure out I mean you
1:23:32have to figure that out with
1:23:34intelligence you have to figure it out
1:23:35with conscientiousness you have to
1:23:36figure it out with creativity you have
1:23:38to figure out with stress tolerance with
1:23:40agreeableness because you want to go
1:23:42into a Cooperative environment and not a
1:23:43competitive one if you're agreeable and
1:23:46with neuroticism you want probably want
1:23:48to keep the stress level of your job
1:23:50relatively low because those are all
1:23:52places that you can break down and most
1:23:54people have at least one significant
1:23:57weakness in their intelligence
1:23:58personality makeup and you got to be
1:24:00careful not to place yourself in a
1:24:01position where that's going to be a
1:24:02fatal flaw but what you really want to
1:24:04do as far as I can tell if you want to
1:24:07maximize your chances for both success
1:24:09and and let's say well-being is you want
1:24:12to find a strata of occupation in which
1:24:15you would have an intelligence that
1:24:16would put you in the upper cortile
1:24:19that's perfect then you're a big fish in
1:24:20a small pond and you don't want to be
1:24:23this you don't want to be the stupidest
1:24:25guy in the room it's a bloody rough
1:24:27place to be so and you probably don't
1:24:29want to be the smartest guy in the room
1:24:31either because what that probably means
1:24:32is you should be in a different room
1:24:34right you should look at a place where
1:24:36if you're right at the top it's you've
1:24:38mastered it it's time to go somewhere
1:24:40where you're a little lower so that
1:24:41you've got something to climb up for so
1:24:44and I can if you're not hyper
1:24:45conscientious for example you're
1:24:47probably not going to want a job that
1:24:48you have to work 70 hours a week at
1:24:50because you're just not wired up that
1:24:51way you'd rather have some Leisure and
1:24:53like more power to you
1:24:54if that's how you're wired up there's
1:24:56nothing wrong with having some Leisure
1:24:58but if you're someone who can't stand
1:25:00sitting around doing nothing ever then
1:25:02maybe you can go into a job that's going
1:25:04to require you to work 75 hours a week
1:25:06and almost all jobs that are at the top
1:25:08of complex dominance hierarchies require
1:25:11very high intelligence and insane levels
1:25:13of conscientiousness as well generally
1:25:15speaking as pretty damn high levels of
1:25:17stress tolerance you know because that
1:25:18can knock you out too because there's
1:25:20going to be sharp fluctuations in your
1:25:23career generally speaking at the higher
1:25:25levels of a of a of a of a structure and
1:25:29you have to make very complicated
1:25:30decisions often with very short time
1:25:32Horizons so you have to decide if that's
1:25:34what you
1:25:35want okay so here's some IQ items so
1:25:39this is this is from a test roughly it
1:25:42isn't from the direct test but it's an
1:25:43analog of the Ravens Progressive
1:25:45matrices now here's how the Ravens was
1:25:47derived so imagine that you
1:25:50have you got your 100 questions and you
1:25:53can take out the sum of those and call
1:25:55that IQ okay so now you have a score
1:25:58then you can do a correlation between
1:26:00all of the items and that score and you
1:26:04can find out which single item is the
1:26:06best predictor of the total score
1:26:08because you might see that question 39
1:26:10has no correlation with with the with
1:26:13the mean with the average you say well
1:26:15that isn't a very good question you'd
1:26:16actually throw that out of the next test
1:26:18but you'd say well item number 15 is
1:26:20correlated at 75 with the total score so
1:26:25that's a good single item so then
1:26:26imagine that you went across sets of IQ
1:26:28tests and you took out the best single
1:26:31item predictors of fullscale IQ what
1:26:34you'd end up with is something like
1:26:37this so the Ravens Progressive matrices
1:26:40is a very good test of fluid
1:26:41intelligence and it's relatively
1:26:44non-linguistic which is also an
1:26:45advantage right because imagine you
1:26:47wanted to assess the intelligence of a
1:26:49very diverse range of people and they
1:26:51all came from different linguistic
1:26:53backgrounds well as long as they can
1:26:55understand the instructions which are
1:26:56all almost self-evident then they're
1:26:58going to be able to do this okay so this
1:27:00is you see you have to guess in case you
1:27:04didn't already figure this out which you
1:27:06would have had you been using your
1:27:07intelligence and applying it you're
1:27:09trying to replace the question mark with
1:27:11one of these and so here's how you do it
1:27:14roughly speaking it's also a it's
1:27:16probably a working memory test because
1:27:18you have to hold a variety of variables
1:27:19in imagination at the same time okay so
1:27:21the first thing you say see is every row
1:27:24has a star a triangle and a square and
1:27:27each row has a DOT two dots and three
1:27:30dots and so every row has to have a
1:27:33triangle square and star and one two or
1:27:36three dots okay so this one first of all
1:27:38what's it missing in terms of
1:27:40shape triangle excellent see that's why
1:27:43you're at the UFT and then okay and then
1:27:46what's it missing for dots two dots
1:27:48excellent so we do a little scan here
1:27:50and we see oh look well it could be that
1:27:52one or it could be
1:27:54that's
1:27:56it it's that one and so is that right
1:27:59yes aren't we smart no that was easy so
1:28:02no you're not very smart if you figure
1:28:03that one out because pretty much
1:28:04everybody can figure that one out I
1:28:06think this next one is more
1:28:17difficult okay so in the first row you
1:28:19see that there's two objects each are
1:28:22different color and they move together
1:28:25right they join that one they're
1:28:28separate there they join they're
1:28:30together they're separate there and they
1:28:31join there so this one should be halfway
1:28:34in between those two and the other thing
1:28:37that happens
1:28:38is let's see oh this item actually might
1:28:42be incorrectly represented because the
1:28:44blue should be on the other side
1:28:45whatever
1:28:49um what's
1:28:51that three yeah
1:28:55yes did they
1:28:58flip okay well anyways you see that it's
1:29:00three see I'm not very bright because
1:29:01I've just lectured for an hour okay so
1:29:04so that was a more difficult item and
1:29:06then this one is more difficult if I
1:29:08remember correctly
1:29:10so let's see so they're all three
1:29:12different colors so that has to be color
1:29:15then what's the other thing the
1:29:17relationship between the colors change
1:29:19so what's the
1:29:22answer ha you're all you're you're all
1:29:24scared to answer aren't you cuz you
1:29:26might be wrong yeah and the the more
1:29:29anxious people are even less likely to
1:29:30answer number
1:29:32three okay so if you want to test
1:29:34someone's IQ then you put together a
1:29:36like nice batch of these at different
1:29:38levels of difficulty and then you sum
1:29:42them and then you rank order and then
1:29:43you correct for age and then you have IQ
1:29:45and that's that and then you can say
1:29:46well then you can sort people into the
1:29:48complexity of their occupations and
1:29:50isn't that dismal and wretched but it's
1:29:52true so here you you
1:29:54go this is from the wonderlick people
1:29:57they're a commercial company that makes
1:29:59General cognitive ability tests and it's
1:30:01often used by corporations even though
1:30:04it's actually illegal it's actually
1:30:06illegal to use IQ tests but the
1:30:08wonderlick
1:30:10doesn't promote themselves as testing IQ
1:30:12I think they I think it's General
1:30:14cognitive ability which is the same
1:30:15thing but whatever the SATs the Gres the
1:30:19lsats all of those are IQ tests so now
1:30:23they're more crystallized than fluid
1:30:24we'll get to that in a minute but
1:30:26crystallized knowledge is what you acre
1:30:27across time so you could say that fluid
1:30:30intelligence is what programs your brain
1:30:32it fills it with facts let's say it
1:30:34fills it with knowledge and then but you
1:30:36can get an estimate of your intelligence
1:30:38by sampling your domain of factual
1:30:40knowledge and the reason for that is
1:30:42that well obviously the better the
1:30:44programmer the better the content and so
1:30:46what that also means is that you can you
1:30:48could if you were prefrontal cortex was
1:30:51damaged later in life your fluid ey
1:30:54could plummet but your crystallized IQ
1:30:55remain more or less intact so even
1:30:57though they're not different one
1:31:01produces the other and then once the
1:31:02producer has produced then the producer
1:31:05can disappear and you still got the
1:31:06encoded knowledge so at that least
1:31:10that's how it looks to me so okay so how
1:31:12smart do you have to be to be different
1:31:14things in life well if you have an IQ of
1:31:18116 to
1:31:20130 which is 85th percentile and above
1:31:23so so it's one person in 8 up to one
1:31:26person in 130 I believe is 85 90 95 is
1:31:29it 95 I think it's 95 one person eight
1:31:32to one person in 20 then you can be a
1:31:35attorney a research analyst an editor an
1:31:37advertising manager a chemist an
1:31:39engineer an executive manager Etc that's
1:31:42that's the now that's not the high-end
1:31:45for IQ by the way you know that it can
1:31:48go up well it can go up indefinitely
1:31:50although there's fewer and fewer people
1:31:52as it goes up so if you want to be the
1:31:54best at what you're doing Bar None then
1:31:57having an IQ of above 145 is a necessity
1:32:00and maybe you're pushing 160 in some
1:32:02situations and maybe that's make making
1:32:04you one person in 10,000 or even one
1:32:06person in 100,000 and then also to
1:32:09really be good at it you probably have
1:32:10to be reasonably stress tolerant and
1:32:12also somewhat conscientious so you know
1:32:15people and you think well why is it that
1:32:18smart people are at the top of dominance
1:32:20hierarchies and the answer to that in
1:32:21part is because they get there first
1:32:23right I mean everything's a race roughly
1:32:26speaking and the faster you are the more
1:32:28likely you are to be at the Forefront of
1:32:29the pack and intelligence in large part
1:32:32is speed that's not all of it is so if
1:32:34you're moving towards something
1:32:36difficult rapidly the faster people are
1:32:38going to get there first so IQ of 115
1:32:42110 to 115 so that's 85th to 73rd to
1:32:4585th percentile copywriter accountant
1:32:48manager sales manager sales analyst
1:32:51general manager ping purchasing agent
1:32:54registered nurse sales account executive
1:32:56uh if you look at universities the
1:32:58smartest people are they're Above This
1:33:00who are the smartest people at
1:33:01University what do you think mati
1:33:05mathematicians physicists and
1:33:06mathematicians right right I could tell
1:33:09you who's on the other end but I
1:33:11[Laughter]
1:33:13won't yeah I'd like to though anyway
1:33:17anyways okay going down the now 103 to
1:33:20108 is slightly above average right 60th
1:33:23to 7 percentile store manager bookkeeper
1:33:26credit clerk lab tester general sales
1:33:28telephone sales accounting clerk
1:33:29computer operator customer service rep
1:33:31technician clerk typist so you see at
1:33:33this level people are people have some
1:33:36technical skill and some ability to deal
1:33:38with complex things okay that's dead
1:33:40average 100 is average dispatcher in a
1:33:44general office police patrol officer
1:33:47receptionist cashier General clerical
1:33:49inside sales clerk meter reader printer
1:33:51teller data entry electrical helper
1:33:5695th to 98 machinist food department
1:33:58manager quality control Checker security
1:34:01guard unskilled labor maintenance arc
1:34:03welder die Setter mechanic good good IQ
1:34:05range for relatively qualified trades
1:34:08people 87 to 93 messenger factory
1:34:12production worker assembler food service
1:34:14worker nurses aid warehouseman custodian
1:34:16janitor material handler Packer now what
1:34:19you're seeing what you're starting to
1:34:20see is that as you move down the
1:34:22hierarchy the jobs get simpler they're
1:34:24more likely to be assigned by other
1:34:26people or they're
1:34:27repetitive because what IQ predicts to
1:34:31some degree is how rapidly you can learn
1:34:32something but once you've learned it it
1:34:34doesn't predict how necessarily how well
1:34:36you do at it and so the more repetitive
1:34:39jobs tend people with lower IQs are more
1:34:41suited to more repetitive jobs under 87
1:34:44is there something well
1:34:48no right that's a big problem and it's
1:34:51something our society has not addressed
1:34:54at
1:34:54all jobs for people with IQs of less
1:34:57than 85 are very very rare so what the
1:35:00hell are those suppos people supposed to
1:35:02do it's like one it's 15% of the
1:35:05population what are they supposed to do
1:35:08well we better figure it out because one
1:35:10of the things that's happening too is
1:35:12that as the as the high IQ Tech Geeks
1:35:15get a hold of the world the demand for
1:35:17cognitive power is increasing not
1:35:19decreasing right you want to be a teller
1:35:21well you know those checkout machines
1:35:23they're not so simple you want to work
1:35:25at McDonald's you think that's a simple
1:35:27job you don't see robots working at
1:35:28McDonald's and the reason for that is
1:35:30that what McDonald's workers do is too
1:35:32complex for for robots to do
1:35:39so well so this is a discussion that no
1:35:41one wants to have but that's okay it's
1:35:43still a problem and it has to be dealt
1:35:46with so the US government I think I told
1:35:48you this at one point already it's
1:35:50illegal to induct anyone into the US
1:35:52Army if they have an IQ of less than 83
1:35:55right it's about 10% of the population
1:35:58because the US Army and they've been
1:36:00doing IQ testing since IQ testing began
1:36:02because they want everybody they can
1:36:04possibly get into the army because in
1:36:06peacetime they use it as a way of moving
1:36:08people up to socioeconomic ladder and in
1:36:10Wartime well obviously you need as many
1:36:13soldiers as you can get your hands on
1:36:15and so you're not going to be any
1:36:17pickier than you have to be so when the
1:36:20US Army says it's illegal to induct
1:36:22anybody into the Armed Forces if they
1:36:23have an IQ of less than 83 then you know
1:36:26that they've done it for absolute
1:36:28necessity right and when people have
1:36:30made a finding that contradicts what
1:36:32they want to hear and they're doing it
1:36:34out of absolute necessity you can be
1:36:36reasonably true that it's one of those
1:36:37facts that just won't bloody well go
1:36:39away and so you might think well if
1:36:41there's nothing for someone with an IQ
1:36:42of less than 83 to do in the Army what
1:36:45makes you think that there's something
1:36:46that they can do in the general
1:36:47population and then the issue is you
1:36:49know because the conservatives will say
1:36:51well they should just work harder like
1:36:53sorry that ain't going to fly and the
1:36:55Liberals will say well there's no
1:36:56difference between people anyhow and you
1:36:58can just train people to do everything
1:37:00and that's wrong so they're both wrong
1:37:02and they're seriously wrong and the fact
1:37:04that neither side of the political
1:37:06perspective will take a good cold hard
1:37:08look at this problem means that we're
1:37:10going to increasingly have a structural
1:37:12problem in our societies because we're
1:37:14complexifying everything so rapidly that
1:37:17you can't find employment unless
1:37:19increasingly unless you're intelligent
1:37:21you guys are really going to face this
1:37:22you know lawyers are disappearing like
1:37:25mad and the reason for that is you can
1:37:27look it up online increasingly you can
1:37:29do things yourself if you're smart and
1:37:32so like the workingclass people have
1:37:34been wiped out pretty nicely over the
1:37:35last 30 years by by Automation and
1:37:38various other things it's the low end of
1:37:40the white collar class that's coming up
1:37:41next so I'm not saying that low lawyers
1:37:44are in the low end but lowend lawyers
1:37:46are in the low end of the white color
1:37:48class so there's still going to be
1:37:50plenty of positions for people who are
1:37:51creative and fast on their feet and
1:37:53super smart in fact those people are
1:37:55going to have all the money that's
1:37:57already happening to a great degree you
1:37:59know cuz if you're smart and you can use
1:38:01a computer you're so smart it's just
1:38:03absolutely unbelievable right and if you
1:38:05can't use a computer and lots of people
1:38:08and I don't mean you know you can open
1:38:09word that isn't what I mean I mean maybe
1:38:12I mean you can program and if you can't
1:38:14program well you're right at the next
1:38:15end so if you haven't got that with you
1:38:19you're you're going to be left behind
1:38:21what's going happen when
1:38:26a lot of them will take
1:38:27demoll that's what's happening in the
1:38:29United States yeah it's a no it yeah so
1:38:33there's a massive drug problem emerging
1:38:38in3 yeah no I'm telling you that is
1:38:40what's happening
1:38:43there yes
1:38:45drugs yeah drugs of
1:38:49abuse
1:38:51fallet well that what H what is is
1:38:53happening to a large degree is people
1:38:55drop out of the employment race they get
1:38:57very depressed they develop chronic pain
1:38:58problems especially if they're men
1:39:00because chronic pain and depression are
1:39:02very much the same thing and then they
1:39:04subsist on opiates which are subsidized
1:39:06by Medicaid in the US I'm not kidding
1:39:08about this this is exactly what's
1:39:09happening what what else is going to
1:39:11happen to people for whom there's
1:39:12nothing to do they have a terrible time
1:39:14especially if they're
1:39:18conscientious that's a good question you
1:39:21know the AI guys are pushing hard on
1:39:23this what's the biggest
1:39:25employment
1:39:27category
1:39:30driver think about it what's Tesla doing
1:39:34what are all the AI guys working on as
1:39:35fast as they possibly can driverless
1:39:38cars no problem except that's the
1:39:40biggest employment category for men so
1:39:42what are those guys going to
1:39:44do yeah they're going to sit home and
1:39:46you know be miserable with their wives
1:39:47and take opiate because they have
1:39:48chronic pain problems right nasty and
1:39:51you might think well could they think up
1:39:53something else to do well if you have an
1:39:56IQ of 83 or less you're not going to be
1:39:58doing a lot of thinking about something
1:39:59else to do you know that isn't how it
1:40:01works because you're more of a to to
1:40:04you're an act person not a thinking
1:40:06person roughly speaking you know and so
1:40:09if you have a task at hand especially if
1:40:10you're conscientious you can diligently
1:40:12go about it but you know I've tried to
1:40:15train people with IQs of 80 and less to
1:40:18do what I would consider tasks that that
1:40:22that one of you could learn to do in 10
1:40:23minutes and and never make a mistake
1:40:25again and it's like tens of hours with
1:40:28bare minimum Mastery of the tasks so
1:40:32yeah it's ugly situation no doubt about
1:40:35it okay
1:40:38openness so
1:40:43creativity well I can talk more about
1:40:45this on on on Thursday maybe we'll just
1:40:47stop and I'll go into creativity on
1:40:49Thursday so we've got about 5 minutes so
1:40:51if anyone has a question I'd be more
1:40:53than than happy to entertain a question
1:40:55so did it what I tell you like what you
1:40:58need we're in a technical area to some
1:41:00degree right so you need to understand
1:41:01how these tests come about because you
1:41:03can't understand the concepts without
1:41:05understanding it so I'm hoping that the
1:41:07way I told you that the IQ tests were
1:41:09derived made sense I mean it's a fairly
1:41:11straightforward thing but that's what
1:41:13you want to concentrate on you had a
1:41:18question y y
1:41:24you can't change you can't train simple
1:41:26reaction time it's really
1:41:27hard you top out very rapidly and here's
1:41:31but let's take your question a little
1:41:33further so let's say
1:41:37um IQ predicts how fast you'll Master a
1:41:40video
1:41:41game so then and it does so then let's
1:41:43say we're going to train the hell out of
1:41:45you on a video game so you get super
1:41:46good at it and then you'll get like
1:41:48Tetris everyone does everyone know what
1:41:50Tetris is okay well Tetris is really an
1:41:52i an IQ test for all intents and
1:41:55purposes it's spatial rotation test so
1:41:57you can get really good at Tetris right
1:41:59you think hey my IQ is increasing it's
1:42:01like well here's the problem let's say I
1:42:03produce a variant of Tetris that
1:42:06requires that that that the idea is
1:42:09basically the same but it requires
1:42:10different operations being good at
1:42:11Tetris won't help you be good at that
1:42:13test you don't get crossover and people
1:42:16have been trying this for a long time
1:42:17it's like well maybe you could practice
1:42:19a bunch of IQ tests and you'd get better
1:42:21it's like no you get better on the IQ
1:42:22test you practice ractice but you don't
1:42:23get better on IQ tests and you
1:42:26see even fluid you can't move it there
1:42:30are people who come up with claims all
1:42:31the time like the Lumosity people it's
1:42:34like well here's a bunch of complex so
1:42:36then they thought look practice one test
1:42:39that doesn't work to make you smarter so
1:42:42then practice a whole bunch of tests and
1:42:44then maybe what you learn across all the
1:42:46tests will make you smarter no it
1:42:48doesn't work and it really sucks because
1:42:51one of the things you'd hope is that
1:42:53once you had extracted out a central
1:42:54factor for intelligence that you could
1:42:56get people to practice the micro skills
1:42:58that were associated with it and it
1:43:00would boost IQ it's like it doesn't work
1:43:04and you know about every five years
1:43:05someone comes out with a claim that says
1:43:07hey we've developed a new test and if
1:43:08you just do this test you'll get smarter
1:43:11and then someone tests it out and they
1:43:13usually use the Ravens Progressive
1:43:14matrices as the marker and they show no
1:43:17it's the same thing domain specific
1:43:18knowledge doesn't generalize to other
1:43:20areas so it's a hell of a thing if you
1:43:22if if you can figure out how to raise
1:43:24people's fluid IQ you will be a
1:43:26billionaire but you won't be able to do
1:43:28it because it looks like it's impossible
1:43:29but you never know you know you know
1:43:30maybe someone will crack it at some
1:43:31point but we certainly haven't yet
1:43:35so no transfer
1:43:40no there's no General no no
1:43:42generalizability of a specific skill to
1:43:45IQ so you know if you practice one thing
1:43:48and it there's something that you're
1:43:50doing that's close to that there's going
1:43:51to be some generalizability it's kind of
1:43:53hard to Define what close means
1:43:59though pro pro well it depends on it
1:44:02would depend on how big the factor you
1:44:04changed was but the general rule of
1:44:05thumb is no transfer
1:44:17yes oh yeah the higher the higher IQ oh
1:44:20yeah the higher IQ person will learn
1:44:22learn the new thing faster pretty much
1:44:24no matter what it is yes yes but even so
1:44:28then you might think well what if you
1:44:29practice learning a bunch of new things
1:44:31fast would that make you faster at
1:44:33learning new things and the answer is a
1:44:35people are doing that all the time so
1:44:37you're probably maxed out on that to
1:44:39some degree and B no it won't so and it
1:44:44believe me people have tried this for a
1:44:46long time so and for for good reason and
1:44:49we haven't got anywhere
1:44:51yes yep
1:44:58yeah the language one is tougher because
1:45:01like if you say say you learn two
1:45:03languages can you pick up the third
1:45:05faster and well the answer is how it
1:45:08depends on how linguistically close this
1:45:11the new language is to the two that
1:45:12you've already learned and then if you
1:45:14learn 30 you can probably learn a new
1:45:17one in like two days because once you've
1:45:19learned 30 you've covered the domain of
1:45:21languages so the language issue is a
1:45:23little bit more complex because
1:45:25languages have a fair bit of commonality
1:45:27in their underlying structure so but you
1:45:29don't learn one language faster after
1:45:31you've learned three because you've got
1:45:33smarter you learn one language faster
1:45:35after you've learned three because you
1:45:36know more about languages so okay we
1:45:39should stop we'll see you Thursday