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0:00All right, guys. It is time to talk
0:01about how to set up NADN for use in your
0:04automations. There are three ways to do
0:06this, and I'm going to cover all three,
0:08but there's really one that I recommend
0:10more, although there is another option
0:12that might be very attractive to some of
0:14you as well. So, we're going to talk
0:15about all three and figure out which one
0:18is probably best for you and your use
0:20case and how to get started. The three
0:22options are going directly with the
0:25software as a service or SAS online
0:28cloud version of NADN which has its own
0:31subscription associated with it. The
0:33second option is to uh host it locally
0:36on your own computer because NADN is
0:38open source and can be just used on your
0:41computer. The third option is a kind of
0:44blend of the two where you purchase your
0:47own server space and then self-host Nadn
0:51on that server. And so let's walk
0:53through each of them one by one. All
0:55right, for starters, this is nadn.io.
0:58This is the SAS version or software as a
1:01service uh version of N8N.
1:04And it's okay. Like um there there's a
1:07lot it can do. This is probably in terms
1:09of functionality the most capable
1:12version because there are certain things
1:14you that you can do with it that are
1:16going to be a little bit more up to
1:17date. You're going to have a better
1:18support system, stuff like that.
1:20However, there's a big problem with this
1:22one and that is the pricing. So, if you
1:24look at monthly pricing, it's going to
1:26be at least $24 a month for the starter
1:30version. And honestly, if you're taking
1:33this stuff seriously, you'll probably
1:35actually need the pro version, which is
1:36$60 a month. Although, you could
1:38probably get by with the starter. Uh,
1:41but regardless, this is a very expensive
1:45option, and there are other options that
1:48are a little bit better for most
1:50authors. Uh, that said, if you want to
1:54go with this, you just go ahead and
1:56click on the plan you want and say start
1:57a free trial and then just walk through
1:59the steps. It's a regular normal sign up
2:01process. I don't feel like I have to
2:03show it all to you. You just go through
2:05that process and then you'll be in NADN
2:08in no time and be able to get started.
2:10And the reason I would recommend this
2:13one is really only in a couple of use
2:15cases. The first is if you have the
2:18money and want probably the simplest,
2:21most seamless solution to get started
2:23with the least amount of tech involved.
2:27this is probably the best one. The other
2:31reason that I might suggest using this
2:32is if you have a really complex business
2:35where you need lots of people to be uh
2:38in involved in the process and lots of
2:40admins, lots of people helping you build
2:43the automations and stuff like that for
2:45really complex systems, you probably
2:48want something a little bit more robust
2:49like this. But that said, I really don't
2:52think that most authors are in that camp
2:55and most of us just want something that
2:58is cheap and affordable and will get the
3:00job done. So with that said, let's talk
3:02about the second option that we have
3:04available to us. And that second option
3:06is hosting it locally on your actual
3:08computer. Now the biggest advantage to
3:10this is obviously that it is actually
3:13free to do. There is no ongoing cost to
3:15hosting NAD on your computer. There are
3:18some disadvantages, however, to doing
3:19this. The first is it's kind of
3:21technical to set up. I'll walk you
3:23through it in a second. The second is
3:25that it is not an always on system. What
3:28that means is if you have automations
3:30that need to run automatically at say
3:33like during the night or while you're
3:35out traveling or something like that, it
3:37can't do that if your computer is shut
3:38down. So, your computer must be
3:40connected to the internet in order to
3:43interact with the internet in any kind
3:45of way. And that can just be a problem
3:47if you have things that need to be
3:49automated outside of, you know, you're
3:54actually using and interacting with it.
3:56For instance, I have some automations
3:58that go through my emails as they come
3:59in. If you had an automation like that
4:01or an automation that scans news items
4:04every day or something like that, if
4:05your computer was off, it would not be
4:07able to execute those things. And not
4:09just if your computer is off, but if the
4:10actual locally hosted version of NAD is
4:14not currently enabled, you're not going
4:17to be able to do that. There are also a
4:19couple of features that won't work on a
4:21locally hosted machine. The biggest one
4:24of these is web hook integration. You're
4:26not going to be able to have any kind of
4:28web hooks inside of your locally hosted
4:30machine. Now, I don't use web hooks a
4:32whole lot in my automations, but if you
4:34did, and I could see circumstances where
4:37you would need that, it's definitely
4:39something that you would want a a
4:42different solution rather than a locally
4:44hosted option. Another advantage though
4:46is that hosting locally is more uh
4:49private and secure. So, as long as you
4:52keep everything on your your actual
4:55system, you don't have to worry about
4:56your data getting into the hands of
4:58other people and stuff like that. Unlike
4:59the cloud solution which basically
5:02you're you're putting all of your
5:04automations, your data, all of that is
5:06hosted in a cloud system that you do not
5:10control. All right, so let's actually
5:11get this installed on your computer. The
5:13first thing you will need is a program
5:15called Docker Desktop. And here's the
5:17website here. I will make sure there's a
5:19link to this down below. All you need to
5:20do is come here. This is not something
5:22that you need to worry about pricing or
5:23anything. You just go come come here to
5:25download Docker desktop and you want to
5:28choose the one that is right for your
5:30computer. So if you have an a Mac, you
5:32would choose one of these. If you have
5:33Windows, you choose one of these. If you
5:35have Linux, you can choose this one. For
5:36most of you, if you're on a PC, you're
5:39going to be using this one that says AMD
5:4164. Uh, and you'll go ahead and download
5:44that. And then you simply install that
5:46program on your computer. And then once
5:48it's installed, it will ask you to close
5:50and restart your computer. So go ahead
5:52and do that now. Now, once your Docker
5:54is installed, you just come and search
5:56for Docker and load it up. And it will
5:58ask you to set up an account, but you
6:00don't actually need this. So, you can
6:02just go ahead and and skip. Fill in any
6:05information you have here, or just skip
6:06it. All right. And once you're in, it'll
6:08look something like this. And over here
6:10on the left, you'll see a number of
6:11options here. You want to make sure to
6:13navigate to images, and then say search
6:16images to run. And then from here, do a
6:18search on N8N
6:20IO.
6:21And this is the one that you want to run
6:23right here. From here, you want to
6:25select pull in order to download this
6:27image. All right. So, our next step is
6:29that we want to create a container
6:30inside of Docker inside of this image.
6:32So, here you'll see this little play
6:34button right here that says run. Go
6:35ahead and click on that. And then it'll
6:38say run a new container. And there are
6:39some optional settings here. I recommend
6:41giving it a name. You can't have spaces
6:44in this name. So, make sure you use like
6:46an underscore or something like that.
6:47I'm just going to call this N8N
6:51test and then give it a host port. Now,
6:54by default, it it'll show 5678 over
6:57here. You can just use that number 5678
7:01right there and hit run. And once it's
7:04finished that, you go here to containers
7:06up in the left menu. And you'll see
7:09it'll have a number here under ports. If
7:13you click on that number, it'll bring
7:15you to the setup to set up your account.
7:19And here you just set enter in your
7:21email, your first name, last name, and
7:22password, and you will be into NADN. So,
7:26that is everything that you need to
7:28know. Now, if you walk through these
7:29steps exactly like I've shown it to you
7:32and it's not working like I like it
7:34works for me, Perplexity is your friend.
7:36use Perplexity or any other searchbased
7:39AI tool and say like that you're trying
7:42to set up NADN locally and explain the
7:45problem that you're running into.
7:46There's a very good chance it will be
7:48able to help you troubleshoot the issue.
7:50All right, so let's talk now about the
7:51third option. This is the actual option
7:54that I recommend for most people as long
7:56as you're willing to pay just a little
7:58bit more than free. Uh because the free
8:00option is obviously installing it
8:01locally on your computer. But there is a
8:04way that you kind of get the best of
8:06both worlds. Best of the cloud version
8:08which has some advantages but it's
8:09really expensive and best of the u
8:13cheaper option putting it locally on
8:15your computer and that is having your
8:16own cloud server that you install NADN
8:19on. So essentially it's a local install
8:22but on a different server meaning a
8:25server different than your actual home
8:27computer. And there are a couple of
8:28different advantages to this. The main
8:30advantage is that that issue that I told
8:34you about the locally hosted option
8:36being that it it isn't always on is not
8:40an issue when you're hosting it on your
8:42own server. So if you have it on a
8:44server, you can run automations whenever
8:47and it'll be always on essentially
8:49unless there's a problem with the
8:50serving a hosting service that you're
8:52using or something like that.
8:53Additionally, you get all of the same
8:55privacy and security advantages of
8:57having it installed locally because it's
8:59still the your server. It it's not on
9:02somebody else's server. It's still one
9:03that you currently are essentially
9:06renting out. Plus, even though it's not
9:08free, it is going to be a substantial
9:11discount from what you would get through
9:12NADN's actual software as a service
9:16provider. So, if we go back and look at
9:18what the NN cloud version is, you're
9:21going to be paying at least $24 a month,
9:23if not 60. And there is a another web
9:28hosting option that I recommend uh
9:30called Hostinger. And this is not
9:32sponsored by Hostinger or anything. I
9:34did reach out to them to see if they
9:35would sponsor a video, but I never heard
9:37back. And so, I'm just doing this uh
9:40free for them. Um, and the reason I
9:44recommend Hostinger is you'll notice
9:46even at the top of their homepage, they
9:48have a option here for self-hosted NA to
9:51N. Uh, Hostinger has been really good
9:54about making this a very seamless
9:56process, which is why I'm recommending
9:58them. Uh, but what you do, if we go here
10:00to pricing, you can see what the pricing
10:02option looks like. So, this is
10:04essentially the same as hosting your own
10:06website. And you can even use this to
10:09host a website and host Nadn if you
10:11want. But if you come up to this pricing
10:13and select Nadn VPS, these are just the
10:16VPS's that they recommend for NAND. You
10:20can select uh as low as $4.99
10:24a month for the this option. I would
10:27probably get something with just a
10:29little bit more oomph for $649 a month.
10:33Um, that said, the only way to get it at
10:36that low price is to opt into 24 months,
10:39uh, which is what I have done. Now, if
10:41you wanted to go monthtomonth, it would
10:43be a little bit more expensive at $799
10:45or $9.99 for one of these two plans. Uh,
10:49almost certainly you will not need one
10:51of these higher plans. I've been on the
10:53KVM2 plan. I've never had any problems
10:56with any overloading the server or
10:58anything like that. And honestly, you
11:00could probably make do with the KVM one
11:03plan as well. But to get the best
11:05prices, you crank it up to 24 months
11:07worth and buy it all at once for for 2
11:10years. And that's what I did. And even
11:13though that sounds like a lot that
11:15you're paying for all at once, it was
11:18still uh less than just a couple of
11:20months of the cloud hosted option. And
11:23so I find this to be a a incredible deal
11:26given that you get almost all of the
11:28advantages of the NAN cloud as well as a
11:33lot of the advantages of self-hosting.
11:35The only disadvantage that this one has
11:38to self-hosting is that it does cost a
11:40little, but as you can see, it's not
11:42really a whole lot. And this is
11:44certainly a lot less than you'd pay for
11:46Novelcrafter or Pseudorite or any of
11:48these other AI writing tools. So, if you
11:51want to use what I think is to be the
11:53the best option here, this is the one I
11:55would go with. But there's absolutely
11:57nothing wrong with going with the other
11:59two options, this is just what I do. And
12:01if you're really strapped for cash, you
12:02can absolutely do the local install
12:04thing. Or if you're unsure about what
12:06you want, you can try the local install
12:07thing. But if you want to go this way,
12:09all you have to do here is select choose
12:12plan. Then you'll go through the
12:13purchase process. As you can see, this
12:15is only $155 for 2 years, which is a
12:19really good price in my opinion. Like I
12:20said, 3 months of the uh pro plan here
12:24in N8N would be more than that. And here
12:27you're getting two years for the same
12:28price, for less than the same price. Uh
12:30so you go through this and then and I'm
12:32not going to show it here because I
12:33already have this, but you just select
12:34N8N here and then walk through the
12:37process and it will be installed for
12:39you, ready to go. It's a much simpler
12:41process than going through Docker and
12:43all of the stuff I showed you on
12:44installing locally. So, this is
12:47definitely the way I would go if you're
12:50kind of like you don't want the whole
12:51technical hassle and you're okay to pay
12:53a little bit of money for it. I think
12:55this is a good option. So, that's just
12:57my thoughts there. But, like I said,
12:59there are reasons why you might want the
13:01other two options. The cloud version is
13:03good for like really robust uh
13:05businesses and enterprises. the local
13:08install is probably good for a lot of
13:10people. As long as you're willing to go
13:11through a little bit more of a technical
13:13setup and uh maybe if you don't have a
13:16lot of money, you really want the free
13:17version, then that's fine. You can
13:19absolutely do that and you don't mind
13:20that it's not going to be always on and
13:23all of that sort of thing. But if you
13:25want the best of both worlds, I think
13:27going through Hostinger, again, not
13:28sponsored, uh not even affiliate really,
13:32uh is I I think the best middle ground
13:35for this in terms of ease of use, ease
13:38of getting it set up
13:40related to price and as as well as the
13:42features that has options for because
13:45remember I mentioned that you can't do
13:46web hooks in a locally hosted option.
13:49You can do them in a uh using a service
13:53like Hostinger. Plus, it's a one-click
13:54install. So, I just think that's a
13:56no-brainer for me personally. So, those
13:58are my thoughts on that. Those are the
13:59three ways that you can get NAND
14:01installed and ready to go. In the next
14:03video, we're going to actually start
14:04setting some of the the basics up in
14:06NAND so that you can actually start your
14:09automations. I know some of you are
14:10probably a little impatient and want me
14:11to actually get to the fun stuff, the
14:14actual automations themselves, but there
14:15are a couple of key things that if you
14:17don't do them, you're going to be very
14:18confused. So, we're going to do a little
14:20bit more of that setup in the next
14:22video.