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Mekansız, Zamansız – Ruh, Rüzgar
0:00Çilingir Sofrası 34 / Spirit is one, but individual ‘nafs’ are many ***Translated by Prof.Dr.Nükhet Kardam***
0:02When Atman merges with Brahman, it becomes identical to itself,
0:08unchanging by necessity timeless and placeless
0:14Transcendental and eternal
0:18What does this mean?
0:20My spirit as Atman
0:23is timeless and placeless.
0:25Sinan: As Atman
0:27Every person’s spirit is Atman
0:33Spirit is not in a particular place or time.
0:36The word "Spirit" is
0:39‘Psyche’ in Greek,
0:41‘Ruh’ in Arabic
0:43and ‘Roah’ in Hebrew.
0:45We use ‘ruh’ in Turkish as well
0:47What does it mean?
0:48Means wind
0:51Blowing,
0:54why wind?
0:57A man is looking,
0:58Sinan: It cannot be seen, but there is proof, there is movement.
1:00You cannot say there is a being in perception.
1:04Sinan: But the curtain is moving. Serhan: I can’t see but there is something there
1:06We see the curtain is moving over there.
1:08Did the demons come?
1:09But there is no one coming or going.
1:11If all windows were closed,
1:14but like in horror movies,
1:16if the curtain starts moving,
1:18Our imagination starts to work overtime.
1:20if there is no wind, and the doors are closed
1:22Sinan: We wonder, who is there behind the curtain?
1:23if it's someone invisible,
1:26you get nervous.
1:27You don’t know.
1:28What precaution can I take?
1:30Should I cross myself or should I pull out my sword?
1:34Who is there?
1:36Serhan: the unknown
1:38The wind cannot be known by its ‘zhat’ (essence),
1:42as a metaphor,
1:44but by its activities.
1:48You don't know where he comes from and where he goes.
1:50However,
1:51we can see that the leaves are shedding when the wind blows
1:53We can see the rain is causing the curtains to fly open,
1:56we can see that wind spawned a tornado
1:57So you can’t see it, but you can see its activities.
2:03You give a name to this activity
2:06You call it wind or spirit
2:07So the spirit is one,
2:09but its activities are many
2:11Like the wind
“Ruh tek, Nefs çoktur.”
2:14Another way to explain this
2:18In Sufism in Sufi terminology
2:23Spirit is one, but there are many nafs
2:28This is not generally known
2:30Check the works of people who write on this topic
2:35They might say "Ervah"
2:37Ervah is the plural of ruh (spirit), but ruh is one.
2:40Ruh is wind
2:43and it is the spirit (ruh) of all living beings including animals, insects
2:47and snakes
2:51But
2:52the minute that Metin breathes the same air or wind
3:01It becomes ‘Rahim’
3:04All of the world’s air or wind is ‘Rahman’ which is available to everyone
3:10Whereas the air that I breathe is just working in my own body,
3:13this is Rahim and the other one is Rahman.
3:16Spirit is one but the the breath (nefes) is individual
3:23Your breath belongs to you,
3:25My breath belongs to me.
3:26His breath belongs to his
3:28Everybody has their own ‘nefes’ (breath)
3:32Meaning also their own ‘nafs’ (individual self)
3:36But spirit is one
3:41That is Atman
3:44It is the same air for all
3:46A lizard is breathing the same air
3:49But its ‘nafs’ turns out the way it does
3:50and mine turns out the way mine does,
3:52depending on our abilities and talents
3:54Because our abilities and capabilities are different
3:56We use the same one spirit in different ways
4:00The individual does not exist in spirit but in the nafs
4:04Nafs means oneself, the individual
4:08even though this is a metaphor, it is also the reality
4:11That’s how it works in the world
4:14Sinan: That’s how it is.
4:16Sinan: Multiplicity comes from here.
4:19This is the unity of multiplicity
4:22Spirit is one, but the breath is individual.
4:25What we mean by breath is really
4:27how spirit is used or activated.
4:31For example, language belongs to everyone
4:33But when you use it, it becomes specified
4:35the way you use the language is ‘rahim’,
4:38but the language itself is ‘rahman’.
4:41You say you use the Turkish language
4:43Encyclopedias were written using the Turkish language
4:47or books on philosophy
4:49Or on poetry
4:54They were created using the same language
4:57Spirit is the same
Mehmet Akif – Nazım Hikmet
5:00For example,
5:02Mehmet Akif wrote a poem
5:04So did Nazim Hikmet Both used the Turkish language
5:09But they used their own understanding Their own expressions as they composed their poems
5:14Their own breath, their own nafs
5:16That’s why their poems were different
5:18Here is something very interesting
5:20You know that Nazim Hikmet was a communist
5:24and Mehmet Akif was an Islamist
5:31They asked Nazim Hikmet,
5:33what do you think about Mehmet Akif as a person?
5:37They were both highly respected poets but this question was related to Mehmet Akif as a person.
5:48He responded
5:50that Mehmet Akif is a believer.
5:52What does "a believer" mean?
5:54It means he is sincere
5:55The one and only religion is sincerity. He has a religion.
5:59He said I can trust him, he is a believer
6:03Whereas some aspiring communists have derided Mehmet Akif
6:10and they praise Nazim Hikmet.
6:15Nazim says, I would trust Mehmet Akif
6:18You say I support Fenerbahce (soccer team)
6:22but they just lost
6:23Sinan: yes, too bad they just lost
6:27Did what I just said bother you?
6:30Oh no!
6:31I didn’t do it, Atman did it!
6:40We need to continue as our friend Can did not give us much time.
6:45He is invisible here because we don’t see him
6:48He opened up a whole world of imagination for our audience
6:53we know that there is somebody called Can who is part of our team
6:58Don’t worry, we will see him on the screen soon
7:01Sinan: Soon
7:07Maybe today, maybe tomorrow, maybe sooner than tomorrow
7:13So we said that spirit is placeless and timeless cannot be recorded,
7:19whereas the nafs is limited to a particular time and place.
7:24We understood this right?
7:26Good
7:29Allah Allah illallah
Istıraplar zamanda ve mekandadır.
7:32All right
7:35Thus since Brahman is placeless and timeless
7:37And eternal and transcendental That means the spirit (Atman)
7:40Is also transcendental and eternal And will be saved from all pain
7:45When it merges with the Universal Self And attain eternal peace and happiness
7:52This thought or this view
7:56Is at the center of Hinduism
8:01What does that mean?
8:03That pain is the result of being in a body
8:07We experience pain in the context of time and place
8:12We experience pain because
8:14The body exists in a particular time and place
8:20Under these conditions, pain is the result of being in a body
8:24But your spirit is placeless and timeless and is your essence
8:31When you meet your spirit, It will be like watching the world from afar
8:35As if through frosted glass
Metin Bobaroğlu ve bir dostunun anısı
8:38I have a friend
8:41With whom we used to meet and engage in sohbets, years ago
8:46One day he came to a sohbet with his wife
8:51She was famous
8:53and beautiful
8:56and loved by her husband
8:58And was rich
9:00So she had everything
9:05Her husband really enjoyed the sohbets. He and I loved each other.
9:10He was a famous singer and painter, in both art forms
9:16A wonderful man
9:19That day when we got together, after a while, his wife wanted to go home
9:22Thinking that the sohbet was going on for too long
9:25My friend’s wife noticed that her husband was not getting up to leave
9:30came over to us, and said to him: We have things to do, we need to leave
9:33But her husband said, please give us a little more time
9:35She asked: What are you talking about?
9:37Her husband said, don’t ask me, ask Metin
9:40She said, What are you talking about So that no one wants to leave?
9:45I said: I am explaining how people can find happiness.
9:54She said: Oh is that so?
9:56She said I am already happy, come on let’s go to her husband
9:59I said to him:
10:02she is right
10:04But are you happy?
10:06Tell me that it is not true, but if you are happy as well,
10:08then you should both go.
10:13Excuse me, lady.
10:15You are beautiful,
10:18today.
10:20You are rich,
10:26You are famous,
10:27today.
10:29You are at the zenith of your art.
10:30But it is not enough to be famous, you have to enjoy what you do.
10:33Sinan: enjoying the applauses
10:34Others may like it but that’s not the point You may not enjoy it.
10:42You might play the flute well
10:43And only the sheep congregate around you.
10:44Serhan: The question is have you fulfilled your purpose?
10:45Exactly
10:47I said: On the basis of these four things, you are happy
10:50I am not promising happiness that is not in a particular time and place
10:54I am hoping to show the way to the promised happiness
10:58At least I am thinking I am showing it
11:03But I can’t say that I am doing it
11:05It is up to you whether you take that path or not
11:08And whether it is real or not is a different topic
11:10These friends are waiting for a door to open to the happiness
11:12that is not located in a particular time and place. They ask where the door is.
11:17They think that I will open a door to them one day
11:18and that they will enter
11:19I say, in fact, there is no such door.
11:21We laughed.
11:24The lady said: That’s what I had said already
11:25She was very polite.
11:28I am not giving her name because it wouldn’t be right
11:31So the two of them left together.
11:32Years later,
11:34The husband came to me
11:37And said: can I ask you a favor?
11:40I said of course
11:45He said: my wife
11:47has cancer
11:48Oh I am sorry
11:50I took her to different doctors
11:53To England, to America They couldn’t find a remedy
11:57So that is the situation, and she is in the last stages of her illness
12:02So we have resigned ourselves that the end is near.
12:05She mentioned you
12:06She remembered that you had talked about the four conditions for happiness
12:10and you had told her that her happiness was based on these four conditions.
12:15Do you think we could invite him to have dinner with us?
12:20What do you say?
12:21I said to my wife: I am embarrassed to ask him Since you had an attitude towards him, how can I invite him now?
12:27She said just go ahead and invite him
12:30I said of course I will come and accepted their invitation
12:35I assumed that I would find a woman who would be crying and helpless.
12:41I was thinking that I can’t really be of any help. Medicine can assist up to a point
12:45Medicine itself is Allah’s knowledge.
12:48What can I do?
12:53But no, instead I saw a woman with fortitude who stood upright
12:58who had not lost her self-respect and did not look depressed at all
13:06This lady was such a good hostess, that I
13:09completely forgot that she was sick
13:15After dinner we sat on their balcony facing the Bosphorus
13:21And I foolishly said things like "Look how beautiful the Bosphorus is"
13:31Maybe you have some videos of your concerts
13:35that we can watch together
13:38She said, forget that Metin bey.
13:40Tell me about your memories, you went to Paris last time.
13:46I asked, what’s going on with you?
13:51She responded that
13:52she is now watching the world through a frosted glass
14:01nothing creates any enthusiasm in her
14:05or any particular desire
14:08I asked: Are you upset about this?
14:10No, I am very peaceful
14:13She continued: Remember you had talked about
14:17how I depended on fame, beauty, wealth for happiness I thought I was peaceful then
14:24But no, instead, I am peaceful now after they are all gone I have no desires left
14:31She asked if I could be with her at that time?
14:33I asked when,
14:35she said at that time.
14:37And I was with her at the time of her death I said goodbye to her looking into her eyes
14:43Amazing!
14:48Some people think that rich and famous people rely on their wealth and popularity
14:55and cannot be real human beings,
14:58only poor people can.
15:00No, that’s not true
15:03Do you see?
15:06Allah had granted her the peace she was ready for,
15:12she called me and she taught me a lesson
Bir diğer anı
15:15There was another woman who was famous I should mention that story as well
15:20This lady was her neighbor, an artist
15:26She had just returned from Paris and had bought a fur coat and other goods
15:31She knew that her neighbor was ill
15:35and wanted to support her. So she was visiting her
15:37and wanted to distract her.
15:39She said, look, I bought a fur coat How are you doing? See, I found these rings in Paris
15:45The lady said, just one minute
15:49and took us to her dressing room
15:53She opened the door and I saw
15:56so many fur coats. In fact, the room looked like
15:59a whole boutique
16:02She said
16:03Look, you bought one fur coat I have many here
16:08Then she opened her drawers, they were full of jewelry
16:11Sinan: it means nothing to her now
16:13She closed the drawers and said
16:14These are all external things,
16:19they don’t mean anything to my spirit
16:24I had thought I was invited there
16:26in order to teach her something
16:29I am thinking that my friend invited me
16:32to find a remedy to her situation
16:36No, I am the one who was taught
16:38I learned something, she was the one who taught me
16:43She is saying, where are you?
16:46You are sitting in a fog,
16:49I am in a different place
16:50I am in peace
16:53Sinan: Earlier she was talking about happiness, but now about peace
16:55Huzur means peace,
16:57and Islam means peace
Serhan Yasdıman Gitar Performansı
17:00Let’s hear some music we love, from a person we love,
17:04and the instrument we love,
17:07in other words, sohbet.
17:09Sinan: That’s why call the it ‘the wooden book’
20:15Eyvallah, thank you
20:20Let your love be light
20:21we are drunk
20:24Çilingir Sofrası 34 / Spirit is one, but individual ‘nafs’ are many ***Translated by Prof.Dr.Nükhet Kardam***