Bill Maher’s Chilling Warning about This Media Lie Goes Viral Fast

0:19Mom, pizza rolls. Now the Reuben report

0:22is on.

0:23>> Previously on the Reuben.

0:25>> I want to come home alone and drunk. I

0:26like watching a woman with some

0:28righteous indignation. That's just cuz

0:30they all smell, right? That's why

0:31they're wearing masks.

0:32>> GOP ones just mark a new phase in body

0:34fascism.

0:35>> Just thought of a great new tagline for

0:36OAMPic. The quickest fascist way to lose

0:39weight.

0:54All

1:05right, everybody. I'm Dave Rubin. This

1:07is the Reuben Report. It's September

1:0914th, 2026, and fear not, you do not

1:11have time shift disorder. We are an hour

1:14late today. I normally don't have to

1:16start the show with an apology, but I

1:18will apologize today. I'll not only

1:20apologize, I will also say thank you for

1:23bearing with us. Uh, I had my monthly

1:26appointment at the orthopedist this

1:28morning to look at my separated AC

1:30joint, which as you can see, the bump is

1:32still there. And well, Connor, you can

1:34show the image of the X-ray. See on the

1:36right, you can see the collar bone

1:38basically attached over there pretty

1:40close. So, that's what keeps your your

1:42collar bone down. And on the left, it is

1:44just way up there. And the ligaments are

1:46just not doing what they need to do.

1:48There's probably too much scar tissue

1:51and I will be having surgery. We tried.

1:55We did everything. I did the stem cells.

1:57I've done all the therapy. I did

1:58exosomes. I've done red light massages

2:02by my girl April a couple miles away. We

2:04did everything. You got to do your own

2:06happy ending. And uh well, I'm going to

2:10have to have surgery. Probably not going

2:11to do it till March, but let's leave

2:12that there. There's a ton to get to. So

2:14anyway, thank you for uh bearing with

2:16us. And again, apologies for all that

2:18stuff. And if you've just been sitting,

2:19I mean, what would you be doing?

2:20Probably people are probably just

2:21sitting at their computer for an hour

2:22just staring at a blank screen because

2:24there's nothing else happening on the

2:25internet or in the news, is there? I

2:26don't know. Uh anyway, let's get to it.

2:28There's a lot to uh hit up. Huge story

2:31that's been breaking all morning around

2:32all this AI craziness. And we covered it

2:35last week. Basically, anthropic, this

2:38leaker suddenly announcing that, oh my

2:40god, the robots are going to turn on.

2:42Skynet is here. The Terminator's coming

2:44to kill everybody. And well, long story

2:46short, the government is here to save

2:48us. Uh so we're going to dive into that.

2:50Uh we're also going to show you a clip

2:52of Bill Maher just doing an absolutely

2:54bangup job on the state of the left uh

2:57on his uh on real time on Friday night.

2:59But we will start because obviously

3:02Friday was uh September 11th. Uh there

3:06were a couple things that I want to just

3:07touch on that'll lead us into the to the

3:09MAR clip. Uh first let's show you this

3:12is video as the names as they do this

3:14every year. This was obviously a big

3:16anniversary at 25 years but as they do

3:19every year at the 9/11 memorial they

3:21read all of the names of the victims. Uh

3:25last year I was at the 911 memorial. I

3:28was at the specific Caner Fitzgerald

3:29one. That's the the company that Howard

3:31Lutnik ran. His brother died. 6 I think

3:3438 employees died where they do a

3:36separate reading of that. It was it was

3:38deeply deeply uh emotional and sort of

3:43it's very hard to describe what it's

3:44even like to be in that room with the

3:45survivors, the wives, the children, the

3:48the brothers, the sisters, etc. Uh but

3:50this was the main one where they read

3:51all 2,900 plus names. Uh and Zorhan mom

3:56Dami was there with AOC and their

3:59emotions were I guess you could call

4:00this slightly disregulated.

4:03Carol an Lelant

4:06>> Jeffrey G. Latous

4:08>> Catherine L. Labori

4:11>> Amin Latchman

4:14>> Ganesha K Ladkut

4:17>> James Patrick

4:19>> All right so look it was just a moment

4:20but big smiles and laughing and she's

4:23leaning into him while quite literally

4:25people are crying. Obviously the

4:28internet went kind of crazy with it and

4:30you know you can judge it for what it

4:32is. It's not one of these things that

4:33I'm going to say is the worst. Look,

4:35it's bad. I'm not going to say it's not

4:37bad. It's bad. It's disgusting. Like,

4:39okay, you know, we've all been to

4:40funerals. You know, when you go to a

4:41funeral, uh, and you see somebody, you

4:43know, you kind of nod at them. You You

4:45look down, whatever. You can acknowledge

4:47them, but but laughing like as if they

4:49did not understand what the optics of

4:50this would be. And as several people

4:53pointed out on Twitter, it's like, well,

4:54they're kind of laughing because they

4:55don't I don't think they really care. I

4:59think that's right. I don't really think

5:00they care about the victims. I don't

5:02really think they care about what

5:03happened. I think they'd like to use

5:05everything around 9/11 for their own

5:07purposes, which is becoming very

5:09obvious. Uh the Nwoke nw wokeness

5:11account on X put this up. Zorhan Mandami

5:14at a 9/11 memorial. And there he is

5:17smiling versus giving a speech about

5:20Islamophobia. And it is worth re-upping

5:23that speech. You may remember this a

5:24couple months ago, Zorhan tearing up uh

5:27while telling us about his auntie uh who

5:30suffered from some sort of Islamophobia.

5:33Except the whole story turned out not to

5:35be true.

5:43I want to speak to the memory of my aunt

5:51who stopped taking the subway after

5:53September 11th because she did not feel

5:55safe in her hijab.

5:56>> Okay, so I'll explain how that story is

5:58made up in just a second, but imagine

6:00now it's fake, right? It's performative.

6:02He's an actor, but note he can't even

6:05jin up that level of acting or

6:07performance for any of the 9/11 victims,

6:10right? It would be almost impossible to

6:12imagine him doing that. It is worth

6:14noting that Msuma Mamami, that his aunt,

6:17his auntie, uh, her LinkedIn and

6:19professional records list her as a

6:21senior program development officer for

6:22Amref Health Africa in Tanzania from

6:25January 2000 to December 2003. She was

6:29not in the United States at the time of

6:31the attacks. Also, all the public photos

6:34of her do not show her in a hijab. So,

6:38well, you know, he probably just made

6:41that story up. But this, of course, is

6:44consistent with the idea that they want

6:46you to be emoting over things that you

6:48probably shouldn't emote about. They

6:50want you to feel guilty over things that

6:51you probably shouldn't feel guilty

6:53about. And the reason for all of that,

6:54of course, is so that they can come in

6:57and tell you how you should feel and

6:59what you should do and how much money

7:00you can make and much more. Uh,

7:03fortunately, most New Yorkers, I think

7:06at least in this specific instance, uh,

7:08were not falling for it this year. Uh,

7:10at the Yankees Mets game over the

7:13weekend, well, first off, there you go.

7:15We're getting some NYPD, FDNY hats. I

7:18mean, you can just think back for those

7:19of you that remember it that George W.

7:21Bush throwing out that first pitch, just

7:23absolutely amazing after 9/11. Uh here

7:26is a video of a man who was of course

7:28waving the Palestinian flag on the

7:30anniversary of 9/11, but the fans were

7:33not having it.

7:43USA

7:46USA USA USA

7:50USA USA

7:57USA

8:00USA.

8:05>> All right. Well, you don't have to hit

8:07the security guys with the sodas, but

8:08beyond that, uh, yes, the chance of USA.

8:11Great. Look, everywhere there is a

8:12Palestinian flag in whatever country it

8:14is, it's a country that never existed,

8:16designed to destroy countries that do

8:17exist. And until the host countries real

8:20realize that these people will keep

8:22trying to destroy everything, but the

8:23people are waking up. So that is nice.

8:25Now also people did on the anniversary

8:29of 9/11 protest outside of Mam Dami's

8:32house. Now M Dami, of course, a man who,

8:34as you know, spoke at a mosque where

8:36just a few moments later the imam called

8:38for death to the in infidels. This is a

8:40man who wants to arrest BB Netanyahu,

8:43who has an endless obsession with Jews

8:45in Israel. He's trying to usher in

8:47socialism. He hangs out with Assan

8:49who said America deserves 9/11.

8:51We could go on and on and on. So, people

8:54are not happy about on top of the fact

8:55that I just saw this morning, maybe we

8:57can get the numbers, rents in New York

8:58are now at an all-time high. Like, it's

9:00not going well there. They're not

9:01getting the free grocery stores, all of

9:03this stuff. So, a whole bunch of people

9:05protested out his outside of his house

9:08on 9/11. This is also someone that talks

9:10about his Muslim faith all the time.

9:12That is true. Usually trying to guilt us

9:16into not criticizing him, which isn't

9:18working. But I wanted to read you this

9:19tweet by Van Jones. Now Van Jones, as

9:22you know, CNN contributor, and he's

9:24always trying to play the good liberal,

9:26but in the end just never gets it. And

9:28this is the type of person that must

9:30wake up now because listen to this

9:33nonsensical dril from Van Jones. There

9:36were a bunch of idiots out there

9:38yesterday protesting New York City Mayor

9:40Mami on the 25th anniversary of 911. Not

9:43because of his policies, not because of

9:45his agenda, not because of his actions,

9:47not because of anything he has ever said

9:49or done, but but simply because of who

9:51he is, a Muslim in a city struck by

9:54Islamic terrorists a quarter century

9:56ago. This protest was one of the

9:58stupidest, most unamerican things anyone

10:00could ever take part in. It was a

10:02despicable act of anti-Muslim bigotry,

10:04plain and simple. and it had no place in

10:06New York City yesterday or ever. Let me

10:08say this. The fact that 25 years after

10:119/11, New Yorkers elected a young Muslim

10:13to lead their city is something everyone

10:15in this country should be proud of. Not

10:17because everyone should embrace his

10:18policies, but because of what his

10:19victory suggests about this country.

10:22Regardless how anyone felt about Mamiy's

10:24policy proposals, prejudice against his

10:26faith did not stop a majority of voters

10:28from giving him a chance to lead the

10:29city. That is a good thing. His victory

10:32is proof that hate does not win. If you

10:34want to make America great, start by

10:35honoring the fact that a great city and

10:37a great nation could rise above

10:39knee-jerk prejudice and elect a young

10:40Muslim within living memory of that

10:42attack. That fact is something we can

10:44all be proud of. It should enhance and

10:46elevate our commemorations. The bigots

10:48who protested Mandami did carry American

10:50flags, but they were not American

10:52patriots. True patriots don't don't just

10:54love America in the abstract. They also

10:56love Americans in the real world,

10:58regardless of their race, religion, or

10:59creed. If you despise or distrust of a

11:02fellow American solely because of how

11:03they prayed, then you should leave Old

11:05Glory at home when you attend your next

11:06rally, a Nazi flag is the more

11:08appropriate banner from you. That is

11:10such a lot of words, Van. I'll imp I'm

11:13very impressed with all the words. That

11:15is just pure

11:17ridiculous endless dril. I only tweeted

11:21once over the weekend. It was

11:22Rashashana, the Jewish New Year, and I

11:24felt I didn't want to start the new year

11:25off just fighting with people on

11:26Twitter. I did tweet one thing, and I

11:27ratioed this guy to high hell. Uh, I

11:30wrote that's a nice work of fiction,

11:32Van. How do you know it had nothing to

11:33do with what he has said or who he pals

11:36around with or his obsessive hate of

11:38Israel/Jews or the fact that they don't

11:40want America to become socialist? You

11:42made that up so as to come off as a good

11:44lib while you usher in the very ideas

11:46that will destroy liberalism. Happy to

11:48discuss further anytime. So Van, I'm

11:50going to actually, as I've tried to do

11:51with you a couple times on the show, I'm

11:53going to take it slightly easy on you

11:54here because I am more than happy to

11:56have a conversation. Your you have a

11:58show. I'm not sure if he has a show, his

12:00show, my show, live, unedited, blah blah

12:02blah. But everything you said there,

12:05that was a story that had nothing to do

12:08with anything that offers evidence. You

12:10don't know that the people outside that

12:11were protesting just because he's

12:12Muslim. You're telling me if he was a

12:14capitalist and he was doing good things

12:17for the city and believed in law and

12:19order and what didn't have an obsessive

12:21obsessive hatred of Israel and want to

12:23arrest BB and all of the stuff and

12:26things were going well and rents weren't

12:27going skyh high. You think all of these

12:29people would have been out there on the

12:30anniversary of 911 protesting him?

12:32That's complete nonsense. You just made

12:35up a story. That is all you did to call

12:38a bunch of people who are fighting for

12:40the right ideas of America that are

12:42antithetical to this guy's ideas to call

12:44them a bunch of bigots. Like that's

12:46exactly what you did. Can we can we get

12:49the you know, maybe we'll do it

12:50tomorrow, but the day or two before

12:52Charlie was assassinated, Van Jones was

12:54on CNN blaming Charlie Kirk for white

12:58supremacy, right? Like, so this is not a

13:00guy with a great track record, but for

13:02some reason the good behaving liberals,

13:04they just, oh, it sounded he look at all

13:06the words he put in that. It all sounds

13:08so nice, but now I'm going to contrast

13:10that with an actual good liberal who is

13:13getting to the end of the road. And yes,

13:16you can guess. I'm either talking about

13:17Federman or Bill Maher. In this case,

13:19it's Bill Maher. Bill Maher on Friday

13:20night's real time. He's there now.

13:23Again, I don't know which way Bill will

13:24will vote and I'll nudge him and poke

13:26him and try to get him there come

13:28November. I really will uh to whatever

13:30extent what I say matters to him.

13:32However, what Bill is realizing, he sat

13:35down with JD Vance what, six weeks ago

13:36and said, "I could vote for you."

13:38Because that's how out of control the

13:39Democrat party is. This is a guy who

13:41was, I think, in a lawsuit with Donald

13:42Trump a couple years ago, right? Uh but

13:45here he is as opposed to doing what Van

13:48just did there, which is that people

13:49have plenty a laundry list of good

13:52reasons to not like Zorhan Mandami, all

13:55of his policies. All right, you guys get

13:57it. Um, instead of just saying that

13:59they're a bunch of bigots cuz they don't

14:01like that one specific guy, well, here's

14:03Bill just calling out the entire left on

14:06how they have behaved as it relates to

14:08terrorism, 9/11,

14:11cries of genocide, and much more. Take a

14:13look.

14:20So much has changed since 9/11. For

14:23example, back then, we were against the

14:25terrorists.

14:30really no cap. Now,

14:33now a lot of media outlets don't even

14:35want you to say the T word. On the 20th

14:38anniversary, four American journalism

14:41associations put out guidance that said

14:43that terrorism should only be used in

14:45quotes because it's emotionally and

14:48politically loaded. Yeah, so is the

14:50World Cup, but we don't put soccer in

14:52quotes.

15:00Really? We We can't anymore just say out

15:03loud who the bad guys were that morning.

15:05Those 19 hijackers, they shared

15:08something. Oh, let's call it a world

15:10view. And it wasn't astrology.

15:13Yeah. And that is right. he's getting

15:17well he's been there for quite some time

15:19at least on this topic because he

15:20happens to be a liberal atheist and he

15:23knows that in certain places where there

15:26are certain sets of ideas they're not

15:28very kind let's say to liberal atheists

15:32but what Bill is also realizing is he's

15:34the mainstream media has lied about

15:36everything for so long and now on the

15:39anniversary of 911 I think the New York

15:41Times ran three pieces on the

15:43anniversary of 911 about Islamophobia

15:46the irrational fear of Islam. Except

15:49tell me, is that is it irrational to

15:52fear a set of ideas if you were an

15:54atheist that might kill you, right? Or

15:57if you were gay or if you were just a

15:59nominal Muslim or if you wanted to leave

16:01the faith. None of that is irrational.

16:04It's not irrational to fear some people

16:06that might kill you, right? And it's

16:08also not bigotry when you have a whole

16:10list of reasons you don't like somebody

16:12to go protest them. That's what Van

16:14doesn't realize that Bill absolutely

16:16does. Bill went on to explain a bit more

16:18about how the BBC is not letting people

16:21use the word terrorist. You wouldn't

16:22want to upset people who are blowing

16:24things up, would you? I mean, after all,

16:27as the BBC advised its reporters, using

16:30the word terrorist can be a quote

16:32barrier rather than an aid to

16:34understanding. You know what's really a

16:37barrier to understanding? LYING.

16:43YEAH, that's right. A barrier to

16:46understanding is lying. And you know

16:47where they need barriers? They need them

16:49outside of quite literally every

16:51synagogue in the United States right now

16:53because they are afraid of people

16:54blowing them up. They need them outside

16:57of all sorts of uh civil places now as

17:02well, right? We see this everywhere.

17:04What happens in Europe all the time,

17:05these cars that plow into Christmas uh

17:08pavilions in Germany, etc., etc. So,

17:10they need barriers. Is it because

17:12they're mean or they're Islamophobic or

17:13they're bigots, Van? I don't think so. I

17:17don't think it is. Uh, but of course,

17:20what Bill is really getting to

17:23at sort of a metal level is that the

17:26left side of the aisle has lost their

17:28mind. And as they are losing their mind,

17:30they are going to ramp up the fear and

17:32they are going to ramp up the craziness

17:34so that you will turn to them and say,

17:36"Save me. Save me." We will have more on

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18:10right, so let's continue with the theme

18:11for just a moment because to the

18:13backdrop of 9/11, you can imagine just

18:15all the awful people were doing all the

18:18ridiculous things. So Abdul al-Sed, the

18:21Egyptian uh running for Senate in

18:25Michigan who hangs out with Hassan

18:28who thought that America deserved 911

18:31and has repeatedly said it. Of course,

18:34he uses uh 9/11 to attack his opponent,

18:37Mike Rogers.

18:39>> The guy I'm up against, he was in

18:41Congress for 14 years. In fact, he was

18:44in Congress on that day

18:4725 years ago

18:50when 3,000 of our fellow Americans were

18:53killed in a terrorist

18:55attack.

18:56And rather than vote to make sure that

18:58the brave first responders

19:01who ran into the rubble that day to save

19:03lives, rather than to make sure that

19:05they had health care, he voted not once

19:08but twice

19:09against giving them ah so El say he must

19:13really care about these people, right?

19:15He really doesn't like the hijackers and

19:18he doesn't share any of their same

19:20grievances with America or anything

19:22else. Mike Rogers what must be a bad

19:24guy. Well, I heard that video and it

19:25took me about a half a second to turn to

19:28Joseph over here and he's on the

19:29computer and I said, "Well, why would it

19:32be that Mike R is Mike Rogers just a

19:34mean man who doesn't want first

19:36responders to get aid and health?" And

19:38it's like, nothing is that obviously

19:40stupid, man. So, actually, Mike Rogers

19:43did not support the 911 uh Zadroga Act

19:47because he opposed creating a permanent

19:49mandatory spending program, argued it

19:51could hurt the country's financial

19:53health. He said supporting uh he said he

19:56said he supported helping 9/11 victims

19:58and first responders but preferred

20:00funding their care through annual

20:01congressional appropriations instead of

20:03a permanent federal program. So once

20:05again like you can argue that these

20:08people should have got more money and

20:09better help and all of those things. You

20:11can also argue that you know we needed

20:12nonprofits to do more and I'm sure als

20:18the therapist who doesn't take Medicare.

20:21uh maybe she could have offered some

20:22psychiatric services to these people,

20:24but of course they don't. Mike Rogers as

20:27a when you're a member of the Senate and

20:29the Congress and you have to vote on

20:30things, you have to decide like it's

20:31not, oh, I want to screw over uh first

20:35responders from 9/11 or do I want to

20:37have a government program that will grow

20:39and grow and grow and grow and grow and

20:40grow and grow? Now, of course, the other

20:42thing that these people done, they have

20:43just all attached themselves to this

20:46ridiculous Twitch streaming buffoon who,

20:48as I've told you before, I used to play

20:50basketball with every Sunday, and he was

20:51a total ball hog, Hassan Also,

20:54he's called 911. He said, "America

20:56deserve 911,

20:58electrocutes his dog." What else did

21:01this guy do? Electrocutes a dog. What?

21:03Oh, he told his audience how to build uh

21:06suicide drones instead of He used to be

21:08fat. I'm being told grew up rich in

21:11Turkey. Okay,

21:13there's a lot of stuff with this guy,

21:15but they've all attached themselves to

21:16him. And here's Scott Jennings doing a

21:18little smackdown on Michigan State

21:20Senator Mallerie McMorro. Uh because she

21:24disavowed him, but it didn't quite Well,

21:26it didn't exactly work out. Take a look.

21:35>> Do people in Michigan think America

21:36deserve 9/11? Absolutely not.

21:39>> Why then why does your Senate campaign's

21:41top ser go around saying that?

21:43>> Listen, hold on. May I

21:44>> that's on the ballot in Michigan.

21:45>> No, it's not because I miss it. Why does

21:49your guy campaign?

21:50>> I famously was the candidate in the

21:53Senate race who disavowed Assam.

21:55>> And then you were famously

21:57you got Piper and you got Elsad and

22:00that's on real quick.

22:02>> Yes. Yeah. Then you were famously out of

22:05the race. point there is when she's

22:07trying to make, oh, it's not about this

22:08guy. See, they're all running from him

22:09now. So, they all ran with him, right?

22:12Bernie was with him. Als

22:15Mallerie was with him. They're all with

22:17him. Then, oh, it turns out, well, he

22:19thought America deserved 911. D

22:21electrocuting the dog. It didn't pass to

22:23Dave Rubin on the fast break. Then they

22:26suddenly they suddenly are like, "Oh,

22:29well, maybe we got to separate from this

22:31guy." That is the point. Now, Mike

22:33Rogers, by the way, Mike Rogers is a is

22:36a decent American. I think it is pretty

22:39freaking obvious. As you know, Thursday

22:40and Friday we had the Republican midterm

22:43convention. And here is video of Mike

22:46Rogers uh doing a little comparing and

22:48contrasting with Abdul Aled.

22:52>> He's a con man. I'm a law man.

22:58He wants to apologize for America. I

23:01want to defend America. He wants to

23:04represent Palestine. I want to represent

23:07Michigan.

23:13And when the radical Islamic terrorists

23:15threaten Americans, we don't need a

23:17senator searching for excuses. We need a

23:20senator hunting them.

23:23September 11th isn't something that we

23:26deserved. No matter what Abdul's buddies

23:28say.

23:30>> Look, there's a couple things here. The

23:32the the choice is so freaking obvious in

23:34Michigan, right? like this. This is an

23:36interesting election because it's

23:38obvious. And by the way, it's not just

23:41Michigan. Look what's going on in Texas,

23:42right? Uh if you're vote, if you're in

23:45that I keep saying it, that that they

23:47say 12% of the people in Texas are still

23:50undecided, right? You don't have to

23:52think Paxton's an all-star to realize

23:54that Taller Rico is a leftist nut. So,

23:56if you're in that 12%, like make up your

23:58freaking mind. Do you want Texas to

24:00remain Texan? Do you want America to

24:02continue? And Michigan has a more stark

24:05version of that. And and Mike Rogers is

24:07completely right. So I can't sit here

24:09and tell you I know a hundred things

24:11about Mike Rogers about how perfect he

24:13is, but he's going to be pretty decent

24:15and in line with American values and all

24:18of that rather than El Say that and and

24:23Michigan like you you are pretty damn

24:26close.

24:28Like don't screw this thing up. Now, the

24:30other thing that was really nice

24:31actually at the Republican convention uh

24:33was that RFK Jr. went up there and you

24:36know, I'm very proud of the moment,

24:37which is why I say it all the time, but

24:38the first time I had him on the show

24:39when he was still running as a Democrat,

24:41I said to him, uh, I don't know if

24:43you're going to be a Republican by the

24:44end of this thing, but I know you won't

24:46be a Democrat. And his eyes kind of lit

24:47up. And now here he is. Well,

24:50subsequently, he gets basically booted

24:52out of the Democrat party because they

24:53wouldn't let him be in the primaries

24:54against Biden. they were taking his

24:56names off his name off ballots.

24:57Everything else that they tried to

24:59destroy him with ends up uh obviously

25:02bringing Maha over to MAGA and now here

25:04he is at the Republican convention

25:07talking a bit about how absolutely

25:10insane his former party that his name

25:13Kennedy used to be so attached to.

25:16>> They excluded me from the debates.

25:19They cancelled the primaries.

25:22The Democratic Party changed the rules

25:24to make sure I could not win and neither

25:26could the other people who were running

25:28as Democrats, no matter how many votes

25:30we got. And for the first time in

25:33history, they cancelled their own

25:36convention.

25:38No voter ever cast a primary ballot for

25:41Kla Harris. No elected delegate was ever

25:45consulted.

25:47The party of no kings simply anointed a

25:50queen.

25:53What's crazy about that is you guys

25:54could still have that man, but you don't

25:58want him in your party. You It doesn't

25:59matter that he's actually just an old

26:01school liberal. It like you don't care

26:03that he's sane. You don't care that he

26:04cares about people's health or anything

26:06else. You all pushed him out through

26:08corruption and demanding that everybody

26:11bow to everything. And then what you did

26:13was then push him to the right and then

26:15put him in what I'm always talking

26:17about, the wide tent Republican party.

26:20the wide tent MAGA movement. So Bobby

26:23Kennedy may personally disagree with

26:26Donald Trump, let's say on abortion or

26:29something like that. But it fully makes

26:30sense that they are both Republicans

26:33right now. And that shows what a good

26:35solid soundwide tent can be versus what

26:38the Democrats keep saying is which was

26:40we have a big tent because we just let

26:41every competing interest and every

26:43psycho in here and we let in the

26:45arsonists and they're burning down the

26:46tent while the other guys hacking away

26:48at the at the freaking like you know the

26:51bars that are holding the tent up the

26:53tent poles.

26:55It's nuts. So what are the Democrats

26:57going to do? Because they have a group

26:59of people who are like avowed

27:01socialists, right? Bernie went from

27:02Democrat socialist to now he's an avowed

27:04socialist. You have guys like, we

27:06covered this last week, but you have

27:08guys like Gavin Newsome who are complete

27:11lefty awful maniacs, but they're not

27:13fully in it with the jihad crew. And I

27:16would put Pete Budajedge in there. They

27:17really, and they've been giving him

27:19Barack Obama, Barack Obama um linguistic

27:22training so that he sounds exactly like

27:24Obama. But here he is given standard

27:27lefty talking points. And what are

27:28standard lefty talking points? Well, we

27:30don't get everything that we want, so

27:32we've got to break the system, pack the

27:35courts, etc., etc. Mr.

27:37>> Secretary, do you support adding seats

27:40to the Supreme Court? And how many?

27:43>> Yes, I talked about this years ago when

27:45I was running for president. At the

27:47time, it was a pretty lonely position.

27:49People were looking at me funny when I

27:51was talking about reforming the Supreme

27:52Court. I think with the years that have

27:54come in between, a lot more people are

27:57on to that idea because it has become a

27:59nakedly partisan institution. Well, any

28:01strategy to make sure that Democrats win

28:04nationwide and in these key races has to

28:06include making sure that we engage and

28:10support and turn out black communities,

28:12especially at a moment like this where

28:14the Republican project of systematically

28:17dismantling black political

28:19representation, especially in the South,

28:21has hit home in the wake of that

28:23horrific Supreme Court decision gutting

28:25the Voting Rights Act.

28:26>> So, you get what he's saying there. I

28:28don't like what the Supreme Court does

28:30sometimes, so I want to destroy the

28:32court. We've been through this a million

28:33times, you know, when the Supreme Court

28:34laid out, what was it right before I

28:36went off the grid? It was like end of

28:37Juneish or maybe it was middle of July

28:40when the Supreme Court laid out a bunch

28:41of decisions, um, some of them leaned

28:44left, some of them leaned right. I

28:46actually had Joseph just check right

28:47now, if you looked at the last 20

28:49Supreme Court decisions, 13 have leaned

28:52in the more conservative bucket, and

28:55seven have leaned in the more liberal

28:56bucket. And that es and flows over the

28:58years. But you've never you never when

29:01conservatives don't get what they want

29:03through the courts. You never hear

29:04people saying we will destroy the

29:06courts. What the Democrats are saying is

29:08if we don't get what we want, we will

29:10destroy it. Which, as I always tell you,

29:12it's literally the ending of every G.I.

29:13Joe cartoon. Cobra Commander does some

29:15crazy thing. I've got my weather

29:16machine, and if I can't have it, nobody

29:18can. That's that was that was a terrible

29:20I turned him more into like like Wyatt

29:22Herp or something there. If I can't I

29:24can't I can't do it right That's all

29:26right. Um, I'll get back to you on a

29:27Cobra Commander impression tomorrow. But

29:29the point is they want they are telling

29:31us Oh, and also we're systematically

29:33what was it? Systematically dismantling

29:35black representation. Oh, cuz you know

29:37when we uh did the um gerrymandering in

29:40Tennessee, what was it out of that black

29:42district? Oh, Steve Cohen. Yeah, that's

29:45that sounds like a black guy. Uh yeah,

29:47he got booted. It's all so idiotic.

29:51Speaking of idiotic, here's Timu Obama

29:53and uh same thing as as Pete. It's like,

29:57you don't like the courts, we're going

29:58to pack the courts. Here's uh Jeff.

30:00Well, you know, we don't know what we're

30:02going to impeach Trump over, but we'll

30:04figure it out.

30:05>> You said, "Hold the crooks accountable.

30:07Does that mean that the House is going

30:08to be pursuing impeachment proceedings

30:10on day one?"

30:11>> No. Uh we haven't ruled anything in and

30:13we haven't ruled anything out in terms

30:14of impeachment. as it relates to

30:16accountability. What we're going to do,

30:18led by Jamie Rascin and House committee

30:21uh Democrats on the judiciary committee

30:24as well as House Democrats on the

30:25oversight committee led by Robert

30:27Garcia, both of them are doing a

30:28tremendous job. We've got to follow the

30:30facts, apply the law, be guided by the

30:33Constitution, and then let the chips

30:34fall where they may.

30:35>> I'm telling you, we're going to we're

30:36going to get to the AI thing in a

30:38second. He is not a real person. That is

30:39a robot or an android or an alien living

30:43in that body. That is not the way a real

30:45person speaks. It's too prepackaged.

30:47Something's not right. But again, are

30:49you going to Well, first off,

30:50Stephanopoulos, who worked for Bill

30:51Clinton and then of course becomes head

30:53of news over at ABC. Are you going to

30:55impeach him? Well, we'll figure it out.

30:56Like, yeah, you're going to figure it

30:58out the day the Democrats get into power

31:01next. Not just impeach Trump, they will

31:04come after everybody. And we best watch

31:07out for that. Uh, we're going to get to

31:08the AI story, which is just absolutely

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32:29let's get into this AI thing because

32:31this is this is the story of the day.

32:33And this there is something around this.

32:35When I was telling you about this story,

32:36I think on Thursday, it everything about

32:39it feels inorganic. It feels like an op.

32:42It feels like a government power grab.

32:44It feels there's markings and I started

32:46seeing people saying it on Twitter

32:47today. This feels in a weird way like

32:49the beginning of COVID. Nobody really

32:51understands what's going on, but

32:53government, please help us. Lock me in

32:55my house. Make me eat Chinese food and

32:57watch porn all day. Like, something is

32:59not right about this. I am telling you.

33:01So, of course, this story really blew up

33:04last week because a low-level employee

33:06at Anthropic, which is one of the big AI

33:09companies, basically put out a

33:11statement, a long Twitter thread saying

33:14that they're racing to destroy humanity

33:16and they don't they can't control the

33:18power that they have and they it must be

33:20regulated. And then suddenly a whole

33:22bunch of mostly Democrats started

33:24retweeting it. It got written in up in

33:27the Wall Street Journal. Something just

33:29felt very inorganic and fake about the

33:32entire thing. Oh, and Bernie Sanders

33:34magically had legislation ready to go on

33:36it. So, something did not seem right.

33:37Now, there's been a ton of fallout. So,

33:39now I want to read uh a tweet from

33:41Anthropic CEO Dario uh Dario Omodai. He

33:44wrote, "We must pace the frontier. I've

33:47written a new essay on why the AI

33:49industry should slow down with a

33:51three-part plan for doing so. Anthropic

33:53is unilaterally committing to the first

33:55of these steps. We'll provide

33:57third-party evaluators with permanent

33:59employee level access to our systems so

34:02that they can verify adherence to our

34:03safety measures, report on incidences,

34:06and assess models alignment during

34:08training. You can read the full post

34:10here. And then he wrote a big essay

34:12there. And here, I'll give you a little

34:13bit more from the essay. Uh, it's my

34:15worry that in six to 12 months, such a

34:17swarm could be capable of taking over

34:18the entire internet with a persistent

34:20botnet potentially cing causing hundreds

34:23of billions of dollars in damages. Okay,

34:24we can all sort of and for any of you

34:26that do the sci-fi thing, you can figure

34:27out a million ways that okay, all of

34:29this artificial intelligence could start

34:31doing all these things and turning on

34:32switches and rockets are going to be

34:33flying all over the place and Skynet

34:35will turn on and we'll bomb this and

34:36we'll okay, we can all do all of that.

34:39But isn't it rather interesting that

34:41Dario here wrote this piece just days

34:44after a kid a kid it's a kid who worked

34:47at the company for about two months had

34:51this whistleblower thing and next thing

34:52you know the the CEO of Anthropics

34:56suddenly is saying we're going to pace

34:58ourselves and we would like third

35:00parties to come in and do it now. No one

35:02was stopping you from doing that before.

35:03Also you guys are racing towards IPO in

35:06the next month or two. It's that's we'll

35:08have more on this in a second, but that

35:09seems very odd to me. We're trying to go

35:11for IPO. Also, we're going to destroy

35:12the world. Also, we need someone to

35:14control us. Something just feels

35:16freaking crazy. And then, of course,

35:18he's now doing the media round. So, here

35:20he is on CBS and he can't believe that

35:23he's building this thing. How did he, a

35:25private guy, do it? How how did he even

35:28end up with the job?

35:30>> It seems like the fate of humanity is at

35:32risk. How much personal responsibility

35:35do you feel about where we are going?

35:37>> My view here is it has always been very

35:40strange that this technology is being

35:42built by by a private company. People

35:45ask me that question all the time. Why

35:47isn't this being built by government?

35:49And the strangest thing about it is I

35:51agree with them. I'm uncomfortable.

35:52>> Would you be willing to give up the

35:54technology to the government?

35:56>> To the to the right combination of

35:58governments. So the worry I have

36:00>> you're willing to hand over this

36:02company.

36:02>> I want to be very clear about this. I

36:04think a combination of democratically

36:08elected governments.

36:10I don't know about handing over but some

36:12kind of oversight, some kind of joint

36:15governance. Again, that would be the

36:17work of years. But I wonder if that's

36:20the direction we need to go in.

36:22>> This guy strikes me as just a total

36:26fraud. Something is not right here.

36:28Again, he could have been warning. I

36:30He's said a few things about this over

36:31time. By the way, Elon Musk has warned.

36:34So, it's not that I'm not dismissing

36:35this, right? As a sci-fi guy, I'm not

36:37dismissing all the things that could

36:39happen with robots and everything else.

36:41But suddenly, he's making the media

36:43rounds because a two-month 23-year-old

36:46employee decides to ring the bell on

36:48this thing. And what does he want? What

36:50does he want? Well, first off, he thinks

36:52that a st it's strange that a private

36:53company's doing this. Oh, yeah. Because

36:55the government's really great at

36:56innovating, right? Like the government's

36:57really just amazing at figuring out

36:59technology. Ever been on a government

37:00website? Remember how well the Obamacare

37:03website worked out? Like the

37:04government's still using dot matrix

37:06printers. Remember those?

37:11That was pretty good. Um, also he handed

37:15over to the government or what was it?

37:17Right consortium. White right group of

37:20governments. Doesn't that sound like

37:22globalism? So, you're gonna create some

37:25technology that could destroy the world

37:27and humanity and you're going to hand it

37:28over to a nice group of governments and

37:31they'll control it. I I just can't I

37:34just literally don't understand how

37:36someone years after we have been through

37:38the hangover of COVID would be like,

37:40"Cover me more, please. You guys are

37:42government is so good and they're

37:44looking out for me. Sure, they injected

37:46me with this thing and grandma dropped

37:48dead and this and that and my son's got

37:50an enlarged heart, but you know, they'll

37:51stop the robots. That seems really

37:53great. In this case, I would go back to

37:56simple wisdom. And as you know, Ronald

37:59Reagan nailed it in nine simple words.

38:03I think you all know that I've always

38:05felt the nine most terrifying words in

38:09the English language are, I'm from the

38:11government and I'm here to help.

38:14>> Right? So, think about it in this case.

38:15Let let again not dismissing any of the

38:18concerns. I can accept that there are

38:21reasons that the super intelligence may

38:23have ultim I mean watch the alien movies

38:25the last couple what what was the last

38:27alien movie uh not the not the what was

38:29the last they had Prometheus and what

38:31was the follow-up to Prometheus Alien

38:32Covenant like if you watch these movies

38:35the idea that eventually the the robots

38:37that we will create just won't even need

38:39us anymore I can get on board all of

38:41that but if your idea is that government

38:44regulators are going to wander into

38:46these companies and figure out how to

38:48stop it or Even if United States

38:50government employees with their

38:52government hats and their government

38:53laminated little sign, if they could do

38:56it, you don't think China's going to

38:57keep moving forward. You don't think

38:58they're going to be doing this all over

39:00the world and then we will be behind.

39:02And why would you not want to be behind

39:03on AI? Because AI is going to literally

39:06help us go to other planets. AI is going

39:08to quite literally cure cancer. It is

39:11going to do things that we actually

39:13cannot even imagine. The way we will

39:15lit, it's literally everything. the way

39:17we will combine AI with robotics to

39:20build roads and houses and clean the

39:23environment and clean the water. So, do

39:25we want to fall behind all of the other

39:27countries that will not regulate

39:29themselves? So, that was Ronald Reagan

39:31on the general notion, right, of of the

39:34what the government does. And in

39:36essence, he's saying these guys screw up

39:37everything. Well, fortunately, Donald

39:39Trump about an hour ago put this up on

39:41Truth. He wrote, "The only control or

39:44guard rails that AI needs is a strong

39:46and smart high IQ president, and the USA

39:49has that in spades. The Trump

39:51administration has stopped AI people

39:53from doing bad or potentially bad things

39:55like Dario, Anthropic, who is now

39:58pretending to be a perfect little angel

40:00and will continue to do so. We already

40:02have tremendous criminal and regulatory

40:04power over those companies. There is a

40:06sick conspiracy going on against AI and

40:08data centers. And the one and the only

40:11one that is happy about it is China.

40:13Whoever wins AI wins. We are leading

40:15China and all others and will continue

40:17to do so. Conspiracy theorists,

40:19treasonous, traders, and leakers beware.

40:22Thank you for your attention to this

40:23matter. President Donald J. Trump. So

40:27again,

40:29yeah, you just got to think about it

40:30this way. Let's say, let's try it this

40:33way. There's a problem, right? We all

40:34recognize this. There's no not a

40:36problem. You have a technology and and

40:37like anything else like hammer or a

40:39fire, it can be used for good or bad.

40:40Fire can cook food for you, burn your

40:42house down. Hammer can hammer something

40:44in to fix. Oh, you have a little problem

40:47over there. I'm going to fix it with

40:48this hammer. Or you could bash your

40:50neighbor's head in for no reason. That

40:51would be bad. AI is the same thing. It

40:53is it is now a tool and we will have to

40:55decide how to do it. Now, could it get a

40:57little haywire? It could. So, you have

40:59to decide, okay, do I think that the

41:01government or a consortium of

41:04governments should control it? Why? Why

41:06is the government inherently better than

41:08private companies, right? And as Trump

41:10points out, actually, we have laws

41:12around certain things and they're not

41:13allowed to do criminal activities and

41:15everything else. Now, they may lose

41:16control of it, but also some kid sitting

41:18in his room who's 15 years old might

41:20figure all this stuff out while you're

41:22regulating the high hell out of the

41:24government and or regulating the high

41:25hell out of these big companies. And of

41:27course, China is going to keep moving

41:28forward. So then what happens this

41:30morning? Surprise, surprise from NBC.

41:33China dismisses AI slowdown calls and

41:36blasts fear-mongering from US tech

41:38leaders. Beijing rejected the growing

41:40calls to curb the technologies

41:41development as part of an American cold

41:43war playbook.

41:45I don't say this often, but I agree with

41:48China here. This seems pretty obvious to

41:51me. So again, best intentions

41:56all wrapped up together. So let's say we

41:59do it. We slow down AI. We regulate our

42:02companies. Even if we could, I don't

42:04even think we can, but even if we could,

42:05we do all that. We hamper them. We

42:08regulate them. We put on all sorts of

42:10different hoops that they have to jump

42:12through to accomplish anything. And

42:14okay, China is going to move forward. Do

42:16you want China with rocket ships first?

42:20Do you want China solving, you know,

42:22literally curing cancer first or all of

42:24the other things that AI and technology

42:26is going to bring us? You want China to

42:28be in charge? Well, congratulations.

42:30you'll hand this to them on a silver

42:31platter. Now, this kid again who worked

42:33at Anthropic for two months at a

42:35low-level job, who writes this piece,

42:36magically gets it in the Wall Street

42:38Journal, suddenly is on every TV station

42:40the other day. Uh he's still making the

42:42rounds. He went over on the televised

42:44mental institution known as MS. Now,

42:47here he is again ramping up the fear

42:48over the company that he worked for. In

42:51terms of concrete scenarios, these AIs

42:54are already capable of a certain degree

42:56of hacking and also a certain degree of

42:58biological research of autonomous robot

43:00control. And if you extrapolate into the

43:02future, they could have strongly

43:04superhuman hacking capabilities, very

43:07superhuman abilities to create novel

43:09boweapons and also abilities to control

43:12say autonomous drones or or all the

43:13robots that are currently being built

43:15very rapidly.

43:16>> Do you do you have any sense of whether

43:18people in government get it? Because

43:19we've all seen, you know, you have 9/11

43:21or big events and then you have a

43:22reaction. It could be a foreign policy

43:24and government reaction for years. But

43:26tragically, putting the details aside,

43:28sometimes it takes a big event for

43:30government to then say, "Oh my god, we

43:32got to do something."

43:34>> Yeah. One of the things that people are

43:35the most worried about is maybe it takes

43:37some sort of tragedy for people to take

43:41the dangers of AI seriously.

43:43>> We should be playing the parts that I'm

43:45saying while these videos are playing.

43:46This this is just pure lunacy. This is

43:49pure everyone has known everyone has

43:51known at some level that is involved in

43:53AI that all these things can happen

43:55again. Skynet could turn on. They're

43:58going to start replicating themsel all

43:59of these things. So now but suddenly

44:02suddenly everybody including the people

44:04going to IPO because they want

44:06regulatory capture around it. They

44:08basically want to be the ones we'll work

44:10with the government to control the

44:11entire thing and everyone else doing it

44:13you're going to be regulated into high

44:15health. Nothing he said there was novel

44:17or new or anything else. Now here's his

44:21CEO again. He was a twomonth low-level

44:23employee ananthropic. But suddenly he

44:25said something and now the CEO is just

44:28out there agreeing with him on

44:29everything, making the rounds. It's just

44:31all a This is the craziest coincidence

44:33ever. Who's booking these people? I need

44:34to hire them.

44:36>> It's funny. I I agree with Jacob much

44:38more than I disagree with him, you know,

44:40and and and and it's it's, you know,

44:42it's it's an interesting resignation

44:44because when he left, he said, you know,

44:47I think anthropic is the most

44:49responsible player, right? I think

44:50anthropic is the most aware of these

44:52issues. He wasn't calling out us. He was

44:56calling out the dynamic of the the

44:59industry as a whole moving too fast.

45:02Well, that's interesting because he

45:05worked for you and if he if you're if

45:07you've been so sort of in line with

45:10these fears, you'd think he would have

45:12been able to get in touch with you to

45:13talk about it, he wouldn't have had to

45:15resign and then somehow put out a

45:17Twitter thread with no followers that

45:19got millions of views. And again, next

45:21thing you know, Bernie Sanders, Bernie

45:22Sanders, who's never done anything.

45:25Bernie Sanders who undoubtedly would put

45:27a DVD into a VCR.

45:30Bernie Sanders is going and now it's

45:33turning out, we can get more on this in

45:34a minute. You can check me on this. It

45:35sounds like the legislation that Bernie

45:36has actually was written in the UK and

45:38the UK and most of Europe has regulated

45:40themselves into oblivion when it comes

45:42to innovating anything. Something is

45:45rotten in Stinktown. So, as opposed to

45:47showing you all the people who are

45:48getting it wrong, I'm going to show you

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46:40Okay, so now I want to show you and it's

46:42so interesting how things line up. You

46:44know, when I on Thursday when the story

46:46was breaking and we were basically doing

46:48the show in an hour, I was just putting

46:49all my thoughts together and Phoenix and

46:51I were putting the show together and you

46:53know, I'm like, I wonder who else is

46:55going to like in the public sphere is

46:56going to be on my side. And what it has

46:58seemed to me is that almost everyone who

47:01I consistently respect play clips of on

47:03this, whether they're private citizens,

47:05tech people, politicians, everyone seems

47:08to be in the same space that I'm in. And

47:11and I think that that shows something.

47:12It doesn't mean we're all right, but it

47:14shows you that there's a certain way you

47:16can look at the world. And then other

47:18people who look at the world in the same

47:20way when big issues come up maybe don't

47:22go as crazy as everybody else. I saw

47:24Ronda Santis even tweeting this morning

47:25how ridiculous this all is. And uh the

47:28co all the co-hosts of the All-In

47:30podcast and I play plenty of videos of

47:31these guys. Um and several of them are

47:34on Trump's council of advisers of

47:36science and technology including this

47:38guy David Freriededberg. Uh here he is

47:40pushing back against this ridiculous

47:44fear-mongering around AI. And actually

47:47does it remind you of a little

47:48something? Take a look.

47:50>> Al Gore published a movie called

47:52Inconvenient Truth and he used these

47:55IPCC forecasts that as of now have been

47:58disproven and many of the assumptions in

48:00those forecasts were not correct.

48:03a guy named Fouchy. You guys may

48:05remember him. He told us all that COVID

48:07will kill us all. And as a result, we

48:09need to lock down the entire world. So,

48:11everyone was locked in their houses.

48:12Businesses were shut down. The

48:14government began spending wildly

48:17to keep people economically active,

48:20which had the adverse effect of driving

48:22inflation through the roof, and we now

48:23have a spiraling debt and spending

48:25problem in this country. I think we're

48:27in this hysteria phase of AI dumerism. I

48:30I think once you're in this phase, it's

48:32very hard to get out because it

48:33basically becomes the default uh social

48:36system. Everyone says we are facing an

48:39existential threat. We are all going to

48:42die if we don't do something about it,

48:44if we don't stop it.

48:46>> Yeah, that that's really good,

48:48Freedberg. Like you just have you don't

48:49have it doesn't matter what you think

48:50about the specific issue. Just think of

48:52the if you could think about it this way

48:54like what's the script that has been

48:55given out to us over and over the years

48:58that eventually takes away our liberty

49:00takes away our control takes away our

49:02autonomy and how do they get that script

49:04to us well they get the script to us

49:06through fear so he mentioned climate

49:08change and Al Gore right well and and by

49:10the way climate change and Al Gore or

49:12global warming in Al Gore they used to

49:13tell it was it was global cooling back

49:15in the 70s time magazine front cover

49:17then it became global warming and then

49:20AOC told us she 12 we have 12 years to

49:22live and that was 10 years ago and

49:24Barack Obama told us the same thing and

49:26now he has a house a 30 acre house in

49:29Martha's Vineyard right on the water

49:30like none of them believe it but what

49:33happens you scream about climate change

49:35for so long that we try to push through

49:37the Green New Deal and all of those

49:39government contracts go to their people

49:41and then is anyone safer or warmer or

49:44cooler or whatever it is they want to be

49:45probably not co I don't even have to

49:48explain it to you exact same thing we're

49:50here to save you. We just made up six

49:52foot social distancing. We know masks

49:53don't work. Oh, Wuhan lab. No, it had

49:56nothing to do with Fouchy funding that.

49:58Like all of the stuff. And now it's the

50:01exact same thing. Oh my god, the robots

50:03are going to turn on and kill everybody.

50:04We've been think people have been, you

50:06know, philosophizing and writing stories

50:08about this for 20 years. But suddenly on

50:10the exact same day, we all started

50:11blowing up this story. And now Bernie

50:13Sanders, a man who has accomplished

50:14nothing in his entire life other than

50:16getting three houses, is going to come

50:18with a piece of legislation and save us.

50:20It's completely completely wrong. So I

50:22was thrilled to see this another one of

50:24the all-in guys. This is David Saxs who

50:26is the zar of crypto and AI for Donald

50:29Trump. Uh and here he is on how the

50:32doomers have been wrong and we just just

50:34don't fall for it. Again, guys,

50:37>> what is these people's track record of

50:38being correct? I think it is worth

50:40asking that. Well, they

50:42>> these are the same people. Let's just go

50:44through it. Let's just go through their

50:45track record. Okay, these are the same

50:47people who said GBT2 was too dangerous

50:49to release. Okay, 0 for one.

50:52>> These are the same people who said

50:53thinking models were too dangerous to

50:54release. Remember, you know, what did I

50:56see? He saw, you know, the first

50:58reasoning model

51:00>> that was too dangerous to release for

51:02two. Okay.

51:04>> They said totally right. You're totally

51:05right.

51:06>> They said the cyber attacks. They said

51:09that this would cause cyber attacks that

51:11would bring down the whole banking

51:12system. Has not happened yet. There are

51:14cyber risks to be sure, but the best way

51:16of dealing with those cyber risks is by

51:18using AI swarms for cyber defense as

51:20well as cyber cyber. Yes, exactly. Look,

51:22the only way to solve AI cyber attacks

51:25with AI powered cyber defense. We all

51:26know that.

51:27>> Yes. Sax is we we have to get Sax on

51:29again soon. He he is the most mature

51:31thinker as it relates to all of this.

51:33Like first off, what is the track record

51:35of the people who have gotten everything

51:36wrong? Do you guys remember, those of

51:38you that were a certain age, why 2K?

51:41They literally told us that computer

51:43systems were going to start failing

51:45because as the as the zero flipped

51:47around, they would think it's 1900

51:49again. I know that sounds completely in

51:51the year 1900. I know that sounds

51:53completely insane. Tomorrow on tomorrow

51:54show when we cover this more, can we get

51:56some of the news reporting on the Y2K

51:58stuff? That's literally what they

51:59thought that government computers and

52:01and corporation computers, they would

52:03flip, right? It would be 1999 and then

52:06it would flip and it was supposed to go

52:07to year 2000 but then it would revert

52:09everything back to 1900 and they were

52:11literally telling us planes were going

52:13to fall out of the sky, right? Your

52:15Nintendo was going to turn on and eat

52:16you. That was what was going on. So

52:18these people have used fear and they've

52:20gotten everything wrong and are we just

52:22going to say, "Okay, I'm a little I'm a

52:24little worried about AI and that's just

52:26fine." Right? I smoked a little weed and

52:28I saw the Matrix so I'm freaking out

52:29right now. Okay. But is that a reason to

52:33give the government control over AI

52:35while China is looking at us going,

52:37"Okay, go ahead and do that. You know

52:38how much faster we're going to make

52:39number four?" A lot faster. Here's David

52:42Saxs on how the job loss claims are have

52:44been false and that Dario is just not

52:46telling anything. Nothing is new about

52:48this, which is why this is all so

52:50bizarre.

52:51Then you look at the job loss

52:54>> claims where Dario himself said that by

52:56now we'd be at I don't know

52:57>> half of all

53:00gone entry level knowledge worker jobs

53:02>> into next year. Yeah.

53:03>> Yeah. And uh overall unemployment levels

53:06of 10 to 15%.

53:07>> Yeah. Hasn't

53:08>> there's no evidence to that quite the

53:09contrary. It's all been job gains.

53:11>> Economy is doing well. So again like

53:13what are we on now? 0 for four. So, you

53:15know, again, these like doomers just

53:17move from claim to claim and as the last

53:19one gets refuted, they move on to the

53:20next one. And again, my point is what

53:23what has this guy told us that is new

53:26here?

53:27>> We're still struggling to get

53:30autocomplete for Python.

53:32>> You can't book a hotel room. That's

53:33actually the hardest one. Try to book a

53:35hotel room using AI. It does not work

53:38yet.

53:38>> You know, autocomplete on Python is

53:40pretty good. It's almost perfect. Still

53:42not, but it's going to kill us,

53:43>> you know. That's kind of funny. Like,

53:45are any of you booking hotel rooms yet

53:47using AI? Like, I haven't been able to

53:49do it yet, right? Like, they told us

53:53nobody's going to have a job. That

53:54hasn't happened yet. Like, things are

53:56moving along at a certain pace, but you

53:59will incorporate those tools into your

54:01life. I use Grock all the time right

54:03now. Like, I don't use I don't Google

54:05anything. I have an endless conversation

54:07going on with Grock about what I'm

54:09eating, what my exercise is, what some,

54:11you know, a thought that I had about how

54:13I want to analyze something on the show

54:15or just a random I'm in a conversation

54:17with a friend and we just want to think

54:18of a random reference like you can you

54:21now have this agent that can work for

54:22you. You can also set up Grock bots and

54:24other agents. There's there's a

54:25gajillion cool things you can do and

54:27maybe their goal will not be to destroy

54:29everything tomorrow. I'm going to guess.

54:32Uh here's Sax. He put out a long tw uh

54:34Twitter post that I I think this is

54:36really really excellent. So bear with me

54:38here. He wrote, "Dario has written that

54:41we need to pace the frontier and Sam

54:43meaning Sam Alman has agreed. People may

54:46be surprised by my response. Go ahead.

54:49You guys are the frontier. By any

54:52reasonable metric, market share, revenue

54:55growth, model capability, the two of you

54:57have a duopoly on frontier intelligence.

55:01You've also claimed the lead is widening

55:03because of recursive self-improvement. I

55:06don't see what you see in the lab. If

55:08the unreleased models are scary enough

55:10that you think you should slow down, I

55:12support your decision to be responsible.

55:15But stop pretending you need anyone

55:17else's permission. Yes. Stop pretending

55:20antitrust law has to be suspended so you

55:22can form a cartel. Stop pretending you

55:25need a regulatory approval process that

55:27supersedes product liability. Stop

55:30pretending meter is independent when

55:32it's intertwined with anthropics

55:34investors and staff. Stop pretending you

55:36need those same evaluators to police

55:38competitors who aren't even at the

55:40frontier. Most of all, stop pretending

55:42the motivation is to slow down. The

55:44motivation to slow down is purely

55:46altruistic. You face massive product

55:49liability exposure if your products

55:50enable a truly damaging cyber attack.

55:53The market already punishes models that

55:55behave in unpredictable or unauthorized

55:57ways. After the hugging face episode, it

56:00is simply good business for Open AI and

56:02Anthropic to trade some raw power for

56:05reliability and predictability.

56:08Call it alignment if you want. It is

56:10also just giving customers what they

56:12want. Pacing the frontier would also

56:14create breathing room for a more

56:15intelligent conversation about

56:17regulation than Bernie Sanders shut it

56:20all down. China is very unlikely to join

56:22a global agreement as you know and that

56:24has to be taken into account as well. So

56:27go ahead and pace your front pace the

56:29frontier. You are the one setting it.

56:31The easiest way not to build super

56:33intelligence is for you to agree not to

56:36build it. Demanding your preferred

56:38regulatory framework as the price of

56:40that will look like blackmail of the

56:42public and the political system. So just

56:44do it. If you do, you'll buy goodwill

56:47for the next conversation. If you don't,

56:49we'll know this was just another bid for

56:51regulatory capture or an election

56:53season. My god, I agree with every

56:56single word of that. And he was not

56:59attacking, okay? He was offering an

57:02off-ramp for you guys. Once you get

57:05regular, I'm so big. We're a huge

57:08company. We're doing amazing things and

57:10we also might destroy the world. Please

57:12government come in and force us to be

57:14better. It doesn't even make sense. But

57:16again, what Zach said is right. So if

57:18you've seen some things over there

57:20anthropic and you're like my god we are

57:22on the verge of having a robot that's

57:23going to launch all the nukes and end

57:25the world. How about you announce that

57:26and then voluntarily take a pause and

57:29then create the conditions so that

57:31Donald Trump is like boy I better have a

57:34a giant meeting with Xi and every other

57:36world leader on how we're going to do

57:38with this. But that's not what you're

57:39doing. What you're calling for is for

57:42yourself to be regulated. And that is a

57:46little bit bizarre. Might I offer

57:48another one from Naval Ravikant who's an

57:50incredible angel investor as well. Uh he

57:53wrote this. I'm not an AI doomer, but my

57:55firsthand experience dating back to 2020

57:57is that the researchers expressing the

57:59concerns are sincere. The closer they

58:02are to the research, the more worried

58:04they seem to be. Okay. So, I'm trying to

58:07give you every angle on this. I I have

58:09nothing but respect for him. Right? What

58:11he's saying is, okay, there's a bunch of

58:13people that are close to it and they're

58:14worried. Okay. Well, if they're worried,

58:16Sax's point is, then you guys are the

58:19experts. You guys run the companies that

58:21are doing this. You guys are leaps and

58:22bounds ahead of everybody else. Why

58:24don't you do something to fix it? But

58:26no, send in a government regulator with

58:27his little plastic hat and his laminated

58:30card and I'm from the government and I'm

58:31here to help. Can I look at your

58:32algorithm? Okay, what time's lunch? Now,

58:36interestingly, Elon, who has been

58:38warning about all the dis, he loves all

58:40the dystopian stuff as much as me. He's

58:42been warning about all of this for years

58:44while also moving ahead on all of these

58:46things. And as you know, robo taxis are

58:49now out on the streets. They're they're

58:50literally in Miami. They're in uh

58:52they're in Austin. They're launching in

58:53a bunch of places like automated robots

58:55are here. He's sending rockets all over

58:57the place, but he is somewhat skeptical

59:00about what could happen in the future.

59:03He wrote this on Twitter. Dario is

59:06right. So he retweeted the very article

59:09that I just read to you that I think is

59:11largely nonsensical and said Dario is

59:13right. Now the difference here, this is

59:15a little bit of splitting the hairs.

59:17What Dario is calling for is basically

59:21the government to come in and fix this.

59:23What Sax is saying is no, fix it

59:26yourself because we will fall behind. I

59:28suspect Elon is more in the Sachs camp

59:31on this. I don't see how Elon would

59:32possibly want government regulators

59:34coming in to SpaceX and everywhere else

59:36and being like, "Stop moving forward on

59:38that too much. We don't know which way

59:39you're going." We're believing that they

59:41have any freaking clue as to where they

59:42are. Now, another one that I'm very

59:44pleased to see is on our side of this is

59:46this is Cheyen Sankar. He's the CTO of

59:49Palunteer. Uh and he wrote this uh AI

59:54safety increasingly looks like Marxism

59:56Leninism from the al for the algorithmic

59:58age. The old vanguard claimed privilege

1:00:02privileged knowledge of the inevitable

1:00:03course of history. The new one claims

1:00:06privileged knowledge of the

1:00:07probabilistic course of humanity. Both

1:00:10use an elaborate intellectual flame

1:00:13framework to reach the same political

1:00:15conclusion. A small group of enlightened

1:00:17people must constrain everyone else for

1:00:19their own good. That has never led to

1:00:21anything except monumental human

1:00:24suffering. So there is a lot here, guys.

1:00:27Right? Again, what he's basically saying

1:00:30is if it's it's the same thing. If you

1:00:33think there is a problem, is your answer

1:00:35to the problem that a government should

1:00:37just come in and control it when other

1:00:39governments will not control it and

1:00:40it'll keep running through? Or that, as

1:00:42Dario said, we should have a series of

1:00:44democratically elected governments? I

1:00:46don't know, a global order of some kind,

1:00:48a one world global order, and they'll be

1:00:51kind to us. Like you have to think about

1:00:53what what are you giving away as a human

1:00:57being when you say to the government

1:00:58come in and and fix this. And you might

1:01:01also say and and this works for people

1:01:02on the left and people on the right.

1:01:04People on the right are always wary

1:01:05about government control because they

1:01:07believe in in human freedom and

1:01:09autonomy, right? So people on the on the

1:01:11right are generally more libertarian in

1:01:13that nature. You believe in yourself,

1:01:14your own pursuit of happiness versus the

1:01:16government doing it for you, right? It's

1:01:17the Reagan nine words thing. People on

1:01:20the left, this is the irony of people on

1:01:22the left. People on the left think that

1:01:23the government's evil. It's awful. It's

1:01:24horrible. America is terrible. And also

1:01:26government and Bernie Sanders, could you

1:01:28just get some more power right now?

1:01:30You're so terrible. The government's

1:01:31terrible at everything. They're terrible

1:01:33at Medicare. They're terrible at the But

1:01:35if we just they could control the

1:01:36robots. It's completely ridiculous. But

1:01:39the real problem we're having, I think,

1:01:40is that human intelligence intelligence

1:01:42isn't great either. And that was a heck

1:01:44of a segue because I want to end uh with

1:01:46one or two other things. And you know,

1:01:48of course, the big story over the last

1:01:50couple weeks culturally

1:01:52has been the Lindsey Clansancy case. Of

1:01:54course, the mother who was at at the

1:01:56very least suffering from postpartum

1:01:58depression and probably some issues

1:02:00around prescription drugs that were

1:02:02misprescribed or something to that

1:02:04nature who killed her three children.

1:02:07The trial was a mistrial because of one

1:02:09man deciding that he was not going to go

1:02:12along with the mob there. And something

1:02:14very, very interesting came out on

1:02:16Friday on this. So, Gail King, uh, you

1:02:18know, she's Oprah's, is she's Oprah's

1:02:20lesbian lover? Like, what's the deal

1:02:22there? Whatever she is. Um, she hosts a

1:02:24show on CBS over there. And she found

1:02:27out live on air that the one man who

1:02:31voted uh who was the hold out that he

1:02:34was actually black. Uh-oh.

1:02:36>> I'm I'm curious about the jurors

1:02:38themselves because we know it was nine

1:02:40women, three men. What was the age

1:02:43range? What was the racial makeup? I

1:02:44haven't heard any of that. What was it?

1:02:46>> Um 70 in 70ish to 22.

1:02:50>> Mhm.

1:02:51>> And um one person of color and then

1:02:55everybody else was white. Um a lot of

1:03:00the jurors had children.

1:03:02>> Uhhuh. And

1:03:03>> one person of color was a person of

1:03:04color, a woman or a man?

1:03:06>> A man.

1:03:07>> A man. Is a hold out juror a person of a

1:03:11black man?

1:03:12>> Yes.

1:03:13>> A black man is a holdout juror? Yes.

1:03:17>> Well, I have to sit with that for just a

1:03:20second.

1:03:20>> Why do you have to sit with that? Why do

1:03:22you have to sit with that? I mean, I get

1:03:24why you have to sit with it because in

1:03:25the way your intersectional brain works,

1:03:27you it can't be a black man that's a bad

1:03:29guy. And now you're going to What are

1:03:30you going to have to be a little nicer

1:03:32to him? Maybe he was a little pissed

1:03:34that the woman killed her three kids and

1:03:38you know he's black though, so you want

1:03:40to like him more, but now he's the bad

1:03:42guy in this story according to you. like

1:03:44you people are all racist. The fact that

1:03:46after a trial ends that jurors go out

1:03:49there and they start talking about the

1:03:50racial makeup and the gender makeup,

1:03:52it's all completely ridiculous. Now, of

1:03:55course, the real problem is also here is

1:03:57that as these jurors do this, like this

1:03:59guy is going to be doxed one way or

1:04:01another and his life is going to be

1:04:03destroyed one way or another. I I I see

1:04:05almost no way around that because those

1:04:06women know who he is. There's too much

1:04:08pressure on them to release the name or

1:04:10somebody will figure it out or there's

1:04:12undoubtedly private investigators or

1:04:13people like Gail over there. Oh my god,

1:04:16he was a black man and he was upset that

1:04:18she didn't get away with killing her

1:04:20three kids. Like, it's just insane. Uh

1:04:22Eric Dore over at the Florida's Voice,

1:04:24this just came out this morning. just in

1:04:26the hold out. Uh Lindsey Clancy Jur is

1:04:30reportedly being doxed and 50,000 has

1:04:33already been raised for him. So he's So

1:04:34apparently someone's raising money

1:04:36because he's been doxed and I don't know

1:04:38if that means his name has been released

1:04:40yet, I hope not, or address or god knows

1:04:42what, but really terrible. And then if

1:04:44you want to just see how things are uh a

1:04:47little bit better over here in Florida,

1:04:48well then look at this uh also from

1:04:51Dory. It's official. Governor Ronda

1:04:52Santis has offered the male hold out

1:04:54Lindseay Clancy Juror asylum in the free

1:04:57state of Florida if he's doxed or

1:04:58harassed. Dantis, a man objected to

1:05:01allowing a woman to kill her three young

1:05:03kids and get away with it. So NBC is

1:05:06trying to smear that juror whose

1:05:08identity should be protected. Another

1:05:09low for legacy media. If the juror is

1:05:12being harassed, Florida will provide

1:05:14asylum. I'm sure he'd be welcomed and

1:05:15appreciated. Well, he would be welcomed.

1:05:17He would be appreciated. And thank God

1:05:19for Ronda Santis. And I have a feeling

1:05:22short of this guy being a a Flidian

1:05:24already that he's probably going to have

1:05:25to take this antis up and he'll probably

1:05:27have to go into the witness protection

1:05:28program and everything else. Like why

1:05:30else are these women going all over the

1:05:32media to basically say how bad he was?

1:05:35Remember that we played you that video

1:05:37the one of the jurors a couple days ago

1:05:39and she was like for some reason he just

1:05:42couldn't get over the idea that she

1:05:43brutally murdered the kids like these

1:05:46people. Oh, and I'm being told right now

1:05:48Oh man, his name Yeah. Wow. So, I'm

1:05:50being told literally right now that he

1:05:52has been doxed, his name and photo are

1:05:54out there. I mean, this is this is

1:05:56beyond imagination and this is going to

1:05:57have not only is this trial going to

1:05:59have repercussions

1:06:01for a million different reasons, um, but

1:06:03now I I honestly think that the entire

1:06:05jury system is going to have questions

1:06:08around it now, like how can you decide

1:06:10to be on a jury knowing that you can be

1:06:11doxed, knowing that people are going to

1:06:13do media tours right after and talk

1:06:15about you? It's just insane. So, he has

1:06:17been doxed literally. I'm getting that

1:06:19right this second. Uh here is juror

1:06:21Paula Develin uh saying that uh mostly

1:06:25they were activists. Well, she doesn't

1:06:26quite here's she's basically saying they

1:06:28were all activists cuz they just wanted

1:06:29to make the world better for women.

1:06:31>> We knew that this was a turning point

1:06:36and this would be something that could

1:06:39change something to make it better for

1:06:42other women in the future for other

1:06:44families. you know, justice for those

1:06:46children. Is this never happening again?

1:06:51>> And Develin also talked to me about the

1:06:53impact this has had on her own mental

1:06:55health. She said during the weekong

1:06:57trial, she would walk to a park or the

1:06:59beach during lunch and she just couldn't

1:07:01bear to look at the families around her.

1:07:03She says, guys, she's still having a

1:07:05hard time with that.

1:07:06>> Oh my god, her mental health as she

1:07:08voted to acquit the woman who killed her

1:07:11children. I mean, what what are you? Are

1:07:14you a juror paying attention to one case

1:07:16and the facts of that case, or you are

1:07:18an activist who was looking at that this

1:07:20was going to be a turning point for

1:07:21other women?

1:07:23These people are completely bananas. And

1:07:26you you were looking at other families.

1:07:28You were looking at other families

1:07:29going, "This won't happen again." But

1:07:30you were going to let the woman walk

1:07:32instead of going to jail who killed the

1:07:34freaking kids. Here's a couple more.

1:07:37Just I mean, now here they are giggling.

1:07:38A bunch of them just giggling. Mhm.

1:07:41Ronnie, uh, what was the thing that

1:07:43Kevin Readington said that you found the

1:07:45funniest?

1:07:48>> And were and were you able to separate

1:07:51sort of the affability of Kevin

1:07:52Readington to the

1:07:54>> case? He was fun to watch.

1:07:57>> Why are they happy? Why are they happy?

1:08:01Why? Because they're getting attention.

1:08:03Cuz they're a bunch of Karens who are in

1:08:05miserable lives with men who can't get

1:08:07boners thanks to their attitude. And now

1:08:11they are they are lit. It's g I don't

1:08:13even want to analyze this. It's just

1:08:14gross. So, how can I end the show today?

1:08:17How can I end the show? First off, just

1:08:19calm down. The robots are not going to

1:08:20kill us. That's number one. Number two,

1:08:22to get us to the top of the show. If

1:08:24you're a liberal watching this and

1:08:26you're just not sure where to vote, just

1:08:28vote for a Republican. They're going to

1:08:29defend your liberal values a lot better.

1:08:31That's a hint to Bill Maher and everyone

1:08:32and your aunt Karen and everybody else.

1:08:34But the other thing that we have to do

1:08:36is consistently stand up for what's

1:08:37right. And you know, I don't think it

1:08:39was uh or I think it was sort of divine

1:08:42intervention in a weird way that Charlie

1:08:44was killed on 910. Of course, then we

1:08:46had the 911 anniversary and uh starting

1:08:48on Friday night uh was the beginning of

1:08:52Russashana, which is the Jewish new

1:08:53year. 5,787

1:08:56years these crazy Hebrews have been

1:08:58going. Uh and it's a time of reflection

1:09:00and how can you make the world a little

1:09:02bit better? And maybe we got to make the

1:09:03world a little bit better by by standing

1:09:05up for what's right because there's a

1:09:07whole people who are doing the reverse.

1:09:09Uh here is the Charlie Kirk statue

1:09:11outside of T turning point headquarters

1:09:13which was vandalized I think the very

1:09:16day it was put up.

1:09:17>> 31. Like Paul said just into the

1:09:19newsroom. It appears the new of

1:09:21conservative activist Charlie Kirk

1:09:23outside Turning Point USA's Phoenix

1:09:25office has been vandalized. Our digital

1:09:27content producer Brian actually drove

1:09:29past the headquarters this morning and

1:09:31spotted what looks like red spray paint

1:09:34here on the statue as well as a memorial

1:09:36there. This comes just days after the

1:09:39statue was unveiled on Thursday. So, you

1:09:41know what you could do? Instead of being

1:09:44part of that that force that vandalizes

1:09:46statues, that force that's upset because

1:09:49they find out, oh, the man who acquitted

1:09:51the child murderer is the same skin

1:09:53color as me or who gets the ego boost by

1:09:56being on this trial and is giddy about

1:09:59it or or being happy that 9/11 happened

1:10:02or all of the terrible ideas that are

1:10:04out there. You could you could look at

1:10:06boy, my life was a certain way. I was

1:10:08around a certain set of people, but

1:10:09circumstances have changed. I've

1:10:12evolved. I'm going to be better than

1:10:13this. And you will find

1:10:16unchartered territory that could lead us

1:10:19to the promised land. Bobby Kennedy,

1:10:23>> the day that President Trump was shot in

1:10:26Butler, Pennsylvania, within three hours

1:10:29of his shooting, he called me and asked

1:10:31me for a meeting. And during the series

1:10:34of talks that followed, I realized that

1:10:37everything that I had heard about

1:10:40President Trump and everything I

1:10:41believed about him from the mainstream

1:10:44media was a lie. Everything.

1:10:47>> Yeah. And then once he realized that,

1:10:49well, look, now he's doing all sorts of

1:10:51great things at HHS. He's done the wide

1:10:54tent thing that I'm endlessly rambling

1:10:56on about. And we have a chance still. We

1:10:59have a little less than two two months

1:11:00to just wake up more people because

1:11:03otherwise we will end up with the

1:11:05socialists and the Marxists and they

1:11:07will pack the courts. They will destroy

1:11:09everything that is good. They'll be

1:11:11murdering the babies and they'll be

1:11:14trying to control the robots that are

1:11:16curing cancer. But besides that, I think

1:11:17everything will be fine. Thank you for

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