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0:00And I’ll tell you , Francisco , my
0:02feeling . When I see speeches , for
0:04example , from Yahya Sinwar ( may his
0:06name be blotted out ) , who was the Hamas
0:09leader in Gaza , or even see some less
0:11extremist ones , or less so , as they
0:13call them in the West , from for example
0:15Mahmoud Abbas , who is the president of
0:17the Palestinian Authority , who to me is
0:19the same , only one doesn't wear a tie .
0:23They say things that are subtleties
0:25that one often sees like the Nazi
0:27discourse ; the Nazis for the public
0:29were this totally radical antisemitic
0:31group that sought the persecution and
0:33extermination of the Jewish people
0:35during the Second World War . I want to
0:39ask you , since you analyze this on a
0:41historical and anthropological level ,
0:43if it’s a coincidence that both have
0:45similar discourses or if there is some
0:47common factor between them . Well , there
0:52are going to be some similarities that
0:54have to do with the convergence of
0:56their antisemitic ideologies , right ? So
0:59, if you start from the fact that both
1:01are antisemitic and both want to
1:03destroy the Jewish people , then you
1:05have to expect that some aspects of
1:07their discourse will be similar simply
1:09because they are converging on the same
1:11thing . But there is also the genealogy ,
1:16because it turns out there is a league ,
1:21there is a vertical historical link
1:24between the German Nazi movement and
1:26today's jihadist movements . And the
1:30figure that most representatively
1:33represents that connection is the Grand
1:36Mufti of Jerusalem , Haj Amin
1:39al-Husseini . Because Husseini was
1:43simultaneously the founding father of
1:45the Palestinian Arab movement . He was a
1:49very high-ranking Nazi in the Third
1:53Reich system . He had his own
1:57bureaucracy , Büros des Großmufti ,
2:00with the highest responsibility in Nazi
2:02propaganda , in the creation of entire
2:05SS divisions for Heinrich Himmler , in
2:08the administration of the death camps ,
2:11working together with Adolf Eichmann .
2:16And after the war , Husseini escaped
2:21justice and became the mentor ,
2:23godfather , and trainer of Yasser Arafat
2:25and Mahmoud Abbas and some other
2:27teenagers who became the founders of
2:29Fatah . So , there you have the link .
2:37Let me see then if I understood the
2:39scenario I presented to you at the
2:41beginning : it was that there is
2:42Palestinianism and there is Nazism and
2:44each had its own historical line , but
2:46they have in common this Judeophobic
2:48factor or whatever . But it turns out
2:51you are telling me otherwise , the
2:52equation isn't like that . The equation ,
2:55you are saying , is that there is the
2:57Nazi movement and one of the Arab
2:58leaders of the time , based on the Nazi
3:00movement , founds what is Palestinianism
3:02. So , it is a linear continuation . I
3:06wouldn't — I wouldn't say that the
3:08German Nazi movement created
3:10Palestinianism . I wouldn't say that .
3:12But what is true is that from the
3:15beginning , almost from the very
3:17beginning of what became Palestinianism
3:20, you already had an alliance with the
3:22German Nazis . The Mufti , Amin
3:26al-Husseini , before even becoming the
3:28Mufti , was already organizing terrorist
3:31attacks against Jews living in the
3:33British Mandate for Palestine . And
3:41after the first one , which was the Nebi
3:43Musa massacre , the British made him the
3:45Grand Mufti of Jerusalem . They gave him
3:49a lot of power , which he used to
3:51organize new massacres of Jews there in
3:53what would later become the State of
3:55Israel . And the biggest one of all , the
3:59attack — the biggest pogrom that this
4:02Husseini organized against the Jews of
4:04British Palestine , which was called the
4:07Arab Revolt — he organized that with
4:09weapons that Adolf Hitler was sending
4:12him , and that lasted from 1936 to 1939 .
4:16So , as early as 1936 , there was already
4:19a link between the Third Reich and Amin
4:22al-Husseini , a link between German
4:24Nazism and the Arab Palestinian
4:27movement . So , I wouldn't say that one
4:30created the other , but from very early
4:33stages they were already linked , both
4:36of them , sorry . And that link
4:39culminated in a collaboration between
4:41the Arab Palestinian movement and the
4:43German Nazi movement to exterminate the
4:45European Jewish people in the crime we
4:48call the Shoah . So , I ask you this : the
4:52audience heard the dates ; that is
4:54before the creation of the State of
4:57Israel . Therefore , if the
4:59Palestinianist claim of the Palestinian
5:02Authority , Fatah , and all those groups
5:04is that their claim is that an
5:06occupying state exists , are you saying
5:09that was never the initial narrative ?
5:12Before the creation of the State of
5:14Israel itself , they were already
5:15carrying out pogroms , that is , attacks
5:16against Jewish communities . So , that
5:19Well , but the issue of the occupation
5:22is even clearer than that , because what
5:27they never explain to people is that —
5:30and you and I saw this in some other
5:32video we made a few years ago — they
5:35never explain to people that , in fact ,
5:37the Arabs were offered their state . No ,
5:43it is not true that the Arabs were
5:45denied their state in British Palestine
5:47. It is false . They were offered it .
5:49What's more , this is what people have
5:51to understand . There was a territory
5:54that had been promised to the Jewish
5:56people , which was the territory of the
5:58British Mandate for Palestine ,
5:59originally defined in 1920 . Okay ? So ,
6:03the League of Nations told the British
6:07Empire , " Well , you can administer this
6:10territory , but on the condition that
6:12you assist the effort to create a
6:14Jewish homeland , because the Jews need
6:16a homeland . " So , it was on the
6:20condition that they adopt the Zionist
6:22project that the League of Nations
6:24allowed the British Empire to
6:26administer the territory that was
6:29called the British Mandate for
6:31Palestine . But 2 years later , Great
6:34Britain , without asking , without , I
6:36mean , illegally , without permission
6:38from the League of Nations , cut off
6:41three-quarters of that territory and
6:43gave it to the Arabs . And that is the
6:47first Palestinian Arab state , which was
6:49called Transjordan and later the
6:51Kingdom of Jordan . Okay ? So
6:53three-quarters of what had been
6:55promised to the Jewish people was taken
6:57and given to the Arabs . And then in
7:011947 with the UN partition plan , the
7:04one-quarter that remained was split in
7:08half , and so an additional one-eighth
7:11was for another Palestinian Arab state .
7:15And the Jews were only going to get
7:18one-eighth of what they had been
7:21promised originally .
7:23Seven-eighths of what had been promised
7:25to the Jewish people was being given to
7:27the Arabs . And the Jews said yes , the
7:31ones who didn't want to accept it were
7:33the Arabs . The Arabs said , " No , "
7:36because they didn't care that they were
7:37being given almost everything . The only
7:40thing that mattered to them was that a
7:42Jewish state would not exist . And they
7:44said it out loud . They said , " We don't
7:46want the Palestinian Arab state , what
7:48we want is to exterminate the Israeli
7:49Jews . " There are multiple uh sources
7:52that demonstrate this , and I invite you
7:54to watch the video . I'll leave it in
7:56the description when I release the
7:58video of that talk we had . It's a very
8:00valuable video , actually . Uh ,
8:02in any case , uh you mentioned that
8:05Husseini escapes to Egypt , but here I
8:07have a question for you . If he was such
8:12a collaborator with the Nazis , uh , Amin
8:14al-Husseini , the first
8:16proto-Palestinian leader , how is it
8:19possible that in the trials , for
8:21example , Nuremberg or the ones for the
8:24public when the Nazis and their allies
8:27lose World War , World War II ? The
8:30opposing side calls the leaders to put
8:32them through a series of trials . So , uh
8:35my question is , why didn't they call
8:37him or why didn't they capture him , or
8:39what happened to him ?
8:42It's an excellent question , and it's a
8:44question that when you try to answer it
8:46, uh , it's a thread that when you pull
8:49it , you end up with the whole rug in
8:51your hand . I mean , here you really
8:54diagnose the system because , well ,
8:56Husseini was a British creation . Okay .
9:01Husseini .
9:02Can you elaborate on that ? This took me
9:04by surprise .
9:07Husseini couldn't be Grand Mufti of
9:09Jerusalem in the British Mandate of
9:12Palestine unless the British allowed it
9:14. The British were the bosses in the
9:17British Mandate of Palestine . What
9:20happened there was , and furthermore ,
9:23the conditions under which the British
9:26made him Mufti are completely
9:28incriminating . So , this is what
9:31happened . Amin al-Husseini organized a
9:35terrorist attack against the Jews of
9:38the Yishuv in the British Mandate in
9:411920 , coinciding with the League of
9:44Nations meeting to decide to give the
9:47mandate to the British , because what
9:49Husseini wanted to do was signal that
9:52the Arabs were violently opposed to the
9:55Zionist project and were not going to
9:58let it happen and would start killing
10:01Jews , and so on . And so , when they
10:04found out about the massacre there at
10:06the San Remo conference , where the
10:08League of Nations was deciding this ,
10:10Husseini's idea was that they would get
10:13scared and would back down on the
10:14movement , the whole Zionist project .
10:17Well , that didn't happen . The League of
10:20Nations approved the creation of the
10:21mandate with the directive to support
10:23the Zionist movement , etcetera . And the
10:28British , when they saw that Amin
10:31al-Husseini could organize these
10:34terrorist massacres , they elevated him
10:37because the British were not really in
10:41favor of the Zionist project . They had
10:46only told that to the League of Nations
10:47so that with that promise they could
10:49obtain control of the territory , but in
10:51reality they weren't in favor , they
10:53were against it . Uh , and the way to
10:59sabotage the Zionist project for them
11:01was indeed Husseini's violence . So ,
11:04after seeing that he organized the Nebi
11:08Musa massacre in 1920 , they held an
11:11election for the position of Grand
11:14Mufti of Jerusalem , which is a position
11:17they invented from the Ottoman Empire .
11:21It was just the Mufti of Jerusalem ,
11:23right ? The Grand Mufti . And the
11:25authority he had was only in the city
11:27of Jerusalem , right ? Over the entire
11:29territory that became the British
11:30Mandate . So , the British created this
11:34huge position , and it gave a lot of
11:36power to the Mufti because he
11:38controlled the schools , the madrasas ,
11:41the mosques , he appointed and removed
11:43the clerics , taxed the Arabs , and
11:46received a subsidy from the Crown ...
11:48forget about it ! So they create this
11:53so-called election to choose the Grand
11:56Mufti of Jerusalem , and the Arabs vote .
12:02The rules of the process were that the
12:05British Empire was the one that would
12:09choose the Mufti from among the top
12:12three candidates who emerged from the
12:16Arab vote . Okay , those were the rules .
12:20Yes , vote and let's see who comes out
12:21on top . But from the top three , the
12:23British Empire would choose the one
12:25they liked best , and that person would
12:26be the Mufti . Well , they vote , and
12:29Husseini didn't make the top three ; he
12:32came in fourth . So , what the British
12:36did was pressure the third-place
12:38finisher to resign so that Husseini
12:40would move up to third place , and then
12:42they chose Husseini .
12:45Okay . So , that's what they wanted . They
12:48wanted the anti-Jewish terrorist ; this
12:50entire process exposes them , it gives
12:53them away . That is where you realize
12:57the true policy of the British . And we
13:00also have the testimony of John Henry
13:02Patterson , a British lieutenant colonel
13:09who was a big fan of the Zionist
13:11movement and was stationed there in the
13:14British Mandate , and who was an
13:16eyewitness to all of this , and he left
13:19a very important testimony of how the
13:21British allied with Husseini to incite
13:24massacres of Jews in the British
13:26Mandate and try to sabotage the Zionist
13:29project . here . So , I have a question ,
13:33but perhaps the solution .
13:35Oh , sorry , I didn't get to the very end
13:38to answer your question . So , forgive me
13:40. So , all of that was to give you the
13:43background on why a trial for Husseini ,
13:46because let's go back to your question .
13:49Your question was , why wasn't Husseini
13:52tried at Nuremberg ? Okay , so now we can
13:54go back to your question . A trial of
13:57Husseini would have been deeply
14:02embarrassing and politically dangerous
14:04for the rulers of the British Empire ,
14:07because they had created Husseini . So ,
14:11Husseini’s responsibility in the Nazi
14:13Final Solution became the
14:14responsibility of the British Empire .
14:17And so , what exactly happened ? Husseini
14:24after the end of World War II was under
14:27house arrest in France . Can you imagine
14:31this ? This is this is the
14:33money .
14:36This is the criminal responsible for
14:38the massacre of between 5 and 6 million
14:40European Jews , and they had him under
14:43house arrest as if he had stolen a
14:45piece of gum . Okay . Uh , and well , they
14:51let him go . So , obviously I don't have
14:56the secret communication that was used ,
14:58but the impression given by the
15:00historical fact that they let him
15:02escape is that the British government
15:04pressured the French government to let
15:06him go . And they let him go because he
15:10escaped . He escaped . He went to an Arab
15:12embassy , they gave him a passport , and
15:14he took off for Cairo .
15:17I want to ask about that last statement
15:19, because you attribute a large number
15:20of victims to Husseini , because one
15:22could say that there were many leaders
15:24who were Hitler's allies , right ? You
15:27can name everyone from Spain to Italy ,
15:30but what stands out about Husseini , how
15:32much did he truly influence or how
15:34close , how active was he in the ideas
15:37that came out of
15:39Oh , no , no . Husseini bears the highest
15:41responsibility . Jacob , this was
15:43established by the Nuremberg War
15:45Tribunal after the war . So , in the
15:48Nuremberg War Tribunal , they collected
15:51the testimonies of Rudolf Kastner and
15:54Andor Steiner , both of whom had been in
15:58contact with Dieter Wisliceny during
16:01the war . Who is Dieter Wisliceny ? He is
16:04Adolf Eichmann's second-in-command .
16:07Adolf Eichmann is the director of the
16:09death camp system , the well-known
16:12director of Adolf Hitler's death camp
16:14system . Okay ? So , the machinery of the
16:17final solution , according to all
16:19history books , was operated by this
16:21Adolf Eichmann . Okay . Well , at the
16:24Nuremberg War Tribunal , his subordinate
16:27testified , which was Dieter Wisliceny ,
16:29who was Eichmann's partner . Okay . He
16:33was testifying and then they executed
16:34him . Uh , the prosecutors of the
16:40Nuremberg War Tribunal all commented
16:43that Dieter Wisliceny had been a
16:46magnificent witness , that he had , for
16:50reasons who knows , decided at the end
16:53of his life to be a good witness , right
16:57? He was a monster , no one changes that
17:00, he was a monster , but before they
17:02executed him , he stood there to testify
17:04and they presented him with evidence
17:06and he corrected it very carefully and
17:08then they corroborated it , and it
17:09turned out he was an excellent witness .
17:11All the prosecutors said that . So , the
17:14Nuremberg Tribunal had the independent
17:19testimonies of Rudolf Kastner and Andor
17:21Steiner , who both had had contact , a
17:23lot of contact , during the war with
17:25Dieter Wisliceny . And Dieter Wisliceny
17:29had told these two that , eh , the Mufti
17:32Husseini was extremely important in the
17:35structure of the Third Reich , that he
17:38was Adolf Eichmann's best friend , that
17:41together they had set up and managed
17:44the entire death camp system , and that
17:46Husseini was , if anything , more extreme
17:49than the Nazis in his fanaticism to
17:52kill every last Jew , whether man , woman
17:55, or child . Okay . So all of that , all
17:59of that had been testified to
18:01independently by Andreas Steiner and
18:04Rudolf Kastner that they had heard
18:09Dieter say . When they capture Dieter
18:12Wisliceny , the Nuremberg War Tribunal
18:14makes him testify , and one of the
18:16things they review are these two
18:18testimonies they had , and they say to
18:20Wisliceny , " Hey , Andreas Steiner told
18:22us that you said the Mufti did this and
18:24Eichmann did that , and so on . " So then ,
18:27Wisliceny , with his usual caution , told
18:29them , " Look , I did say this , I didn't
18:31say that , this is true , this is not , "
18:33and so on . And Wisliceny corroborated
18:36that indeed , the Mufti Husseini had
18:38been the one who convinced the Nazis to
18:41stop expelling Jews and instead kill
18:43them all , that he had collaborated from
18:45the beginning with Eichmann in the
18:47construction of the death camp system ,
18:49that they had managed it together , and
18:51so on . Wisliceny testified to all of
18:55that , uh , and well , so
18:57so what we have ,
18:59this is a witness , he is an eyewitness ,
19:01and we also have a lot of photographic
19:04evidence of Husseini's participation in
19:06training his SS troops ; I mean , there
19:09is no ... this is well-established , that
19:11is my point , right ? By the Nuremberg
19:14War Tribunal . So , what do we have here ?
19:17That the founding father of the
19:19Palestinian Arab movement bears the
19:21highest responsibility in the Nazi
19:23extermination of the European Jewish
19:26people . And nobody told us that .
19:29Yes . So , this is exactly what I wanted
19:32to get to : in order to move to the
19:34second part , for the audience , I want
19:36to see a summary — and you can correct
19:38my nuance — that we have the current
19:40Palestinian movement , because Nazism is
19:42diluted ; there are , if anything , some
19:44branches out there , but in truth , it
19:46has not disappeared , because the
19:48Palestinian movement has that same DNA
19:50and that same , let's say , old alliance ,
19:53and they are simply the ones who did
19:55not go extinct from this same , uh ,
19:57premise . Well , so , but to say that , to
20:00say that , you need one more step , which
20:03is the following : that after the war ,
20:06since Husseini escaped to Cairo , in
20:08Cairo he becomes the mentor and
20:10godfather of Yasser Arafat , Mahmoud
20:13Abbas , and some other teenagers who , in
20:16the late 50s , received Nazi training
20:19that Husseini got for them because many
20:22Nazis were arriving in Cairo to take
20:25refuge with Gamal Abdel Nasser and to
20:27train Nasser's security forces . So then
20:31Husseini takes advantage of some of
20:33those Nazis to give Nazi training to
20:35Yasser Arafat , Mahmoud Abbas , and some
20:37other teenagers , and they become the
20:38core of Fatah . So once you complete
20:42this last link , you can then say ,
20:44clearly , Fatah is descended from the
20:47Nazi final solution because Fatah was
20:49created by Amin al-Husseini , who is the
20:52director of the death camps . There it
20:55is , there is the direct connection and ,
20:58uh obviously Husseini created Fatah to
21:03continue the Nazi extermination ,
21:05obviously . So it is , it is perfectly
21:09justified to say that Fatah or
21:12PLO-Fatah , because as of 1970 , the PLO
21:16is Fatah , right ? So you can say
21:19PLO-Fatah is the continuation of the
21:22Nazi final solution . That is what it
21:24was built for by the author of the
21:26extermination of the European Jewish
21:28people .
21:29Right . And that is why in modern times
21:32it is not strange to hear the president
21:35of the Palestinian Authority denying
21:38the Holocaust or even promoting the
21:40spilling of blood or things of that
21:43nature . So , that is how it is explained
21:45. And so I want to move on to the
21:47second part of the video . Everyone on
21:49the live stream , leave your comments .
21:51What do you think about this topic ?
21:53It's rarely discussed because I don't
21:55know how many of you knew about the
21:57phenomenon of this Mufti , and also
21:59leave your likes .
22:01My question is this , and can I , can I
22:03do a commercial , Jacob ?
22:04Yes , go ahead .
22:05The documentation on all of this can be
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22:20is the one that talks about this . Yeah .