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0:00We've done an enormous amount of damage
0:02to ourselves. I don't see any evidence
0:04that anything we do at this point
0:06against Iran is going to be good for the
0:09United States, the American people, and
0:10our long-term strategic interests. But I
0:13don't think there is any long-term
0:15strategy. Uh I don't think we've ever
0:17had a long-term strategy, and the only
0:19one we can point to in recent years uh
0:21is obviously containment within the last
0:24several decades, and that's gone by the
0:26wayside. So this is a very short-sighted
0:29operation with very short-term
0:31interests. The interest to annihilate
0:34Iran, make them surrender, if you will,
0:37to Donald Trump, good luck. Uh don't
0:40think it's
0:40>> okay. So let me ask you a hard question
0:42here again. If if Iran does take the
0:45initiative here and if they start a
0:47sequence that spawns an a response by
0:49the United States Connecticut and then
0:51that they take that as a as a I guess
0:54taking the gloves off and they hit all
0:56those targets you mentioned which is
0:58going to I I I don't think it can have
0:59any effect other than have a
1:01catastrophic economic impact major
1:04recession possibly depression on the
1:06United States which is going to cause us
1:09a great deal of problems throughout the
1:11world. what is the possibility uh or or
1:14the implications maybe even better way
1:16to put it for Iran to calculate hey
1:19listen we can start a next round here
1:21that we'll definitely have a response
1:23and they'll hit our oil infrastructure
1:25they'll hit our energy and it'll be very
1:27very painful and a long time to fix but
1:29that could ultimately cause the defeat
1:31of the United States and our long-term
1:32objectives may be met is that a
1:34calculation that they could rationally
1:36to choose
1:38>> uh I think it is and I think that you're
1:41talking about damage done to the Persian
1:44Gulf region in its infrastructure
1:47that would require at least 10 years to
1:49recover.
1:51So you're you're talking about a
1:52definite global level depression and I
1:54think we're well on our way in that
1:56direction at this point as well. Uh now
1:59one of the things that's kind of
2:00interesting is to watch Scott Bessant
2:03and he's very sensitive to the bond
2:05market. We're now way over 5% in the
2:0930-year bonds. This last bond sale was
2:12enormously expensive for us. Uh we're in
2:15a lot of trouble financially and Scott
2:17Bessant is using every conceivable trick
2:20and illusion that he has in his bag to
2:23sort of postpone the inevitable
2:25financial collapse that I think is
2:27coming. I've always looked at because I
2:30I have great confidence and trust in
2:32what Jeffrey Goodlock and Luke Crowin
2:34and others talk about. Uh I also look at
2:38this 5% barrier on the 10-year bond and
2:42and everybody makes it very clear when
2:43if you break that and you go over 5%
2:47uh yield on the 10-year bond, you're in
2:49uncharted territory and that could be
2:52catastrophic for us.
2:55>> You see, we're [laughter] getting close
2:56to that now. Yeah, this is the end of
2:57the petro dollar system which is I think
3:00frankly at this stage dead anyway which
3:03just recycled dollars from the Persian
3:06Gulf back into the United States. That's
3:09gone. You don't find anybody wants to
3:12invest in our debt. We sort of postponed
3:15a collapse in Japan and but doing so
3:19harmed the euro because we used euro of
3:22course as a banker said to me the other
3:24day in Europe he said who are we kidding
3:26the euro and the dollar are the same
3:28thing it's all dollars I said oh okay
3:31I uh I think I think we're in a very
3:34fragile set of conditions right now
3:36financially
3:38>> so let me ask you this kind of a
3:40>> I I guess I don't know which one breaks
3:42first Dan
3:43Does it break here at home financially
3:45first or does it blow up in the Gulf and
3:49then break here financially? I I don't
3:52know.
3:53>> Yeah. But it's it's just a matter of
3:55maybe the sequence, not weather. Uh in
3:58the event that that happens, let's just
4:01kind of put this in the context of the
4:02world that we're heading into. So, by
4:05all accounts, there's going to be a
4:07blood bath come November. We're now less
4:09than 90 days out to that. And the
4:11likelihood is that the next Congress
4:13that seats on January 3rd of next year
4:15is going to be overwhelmingly
4:16Democratic. Possible even the Senate
4:18could uh go blue as well. Uh, I've heard
4:21from some folks here in Washington that
4:23claim to have some knowledge that the de
4:26Democrats already have a a cohorted plan
4:29that they're just going to just do in
4:31investigation after investigation,
4:32probably impeachment uh, series,
4:35whatever, to completely hamstring uh,
4:37President Trump and the Democrat or the
4:39Republicans through the next two years
4:41heading into 2028. That's apparently
4:43their plan. So when you have this
4:45political dysfunction which is going to
4:47just keep President Trump on the
4:48defensive the whole time at the same
4:50time that we have if this goes back into
4:53kinetic and we have a severe economic uh
4:57strain on us. What concerns do you have
5:00about the viability and the stability of
5:03the United States domestically?
5:07It cost the uh Jewish Zionist power
5:11structure in the United States an
5:13estimated $ 37 million
5:16to expel Thomas Massie from office.
5:20Now, what will it cost them to retain
5:24control of enough of the House and the
5:27Senate to prevent Donald Trump's removal
5:31from office? I I don't know. But if it
5:34costs 37 million to expel just one
5:37member and they have a lot of money. I
5:40mean there are pots of money that they
5:42have been accumulating out there. And
5:44I'm talking about the Zionist Jewish uh
5:46power structure uh involving hundreds of
5:50millions of dollars that could be
5:51applied with the goal of preventing
5:54Donald Trump from being removed so that
5:57they can retain control of the United
5:59States government. Now, they've already
6:01got it at this point because we know
6:03that 80% of the House and the Senate uh
6:07is effectively paid by the lobby to do
6:11what it wants. So, that that's a fact.
6:14You just just run through look at the
6:16amounts of money that go in there. And
6:18it's amazing. Sometimes it's a lot of
6:20money and sometimes it's not that much.
6:23But members are so greedy for money and
6:25so desperate for money to stay in office
6:28that they'll do almost anything to keep
6:30it. So I I guess my assumption is that
6:34this election is probably not going to
6:37go well for Trump in particular. But the
6:42real issue is what about this uh lobby?
6:45Can it can it retain control that you
6:47know I think it it has a shot at doing
6:49so. I wouldn't write it off yet. Now, of
6:51course, that could change [laughter]
6:54if uh the financial system crashes
6:56between now and November. And that's not
6:58an impossibility. I mean, if you listen
7:00to Ray Dio and others, they'll say it
7:02could very easily happen. So, I I don't
7:05know. I don't have a crystal ball. Can't
7:07can't know with precision when this sort
7:09of thing happens, but that could. Now,
7:11when you talk about domestic
7:14tranquility, remember we have over 50
7:16million people inside the United States
7:18right now who were not born here.
7:21How many of those are illegal? How many
7:23of those are legal? I don't know what
7:24the exact breakdown is, but normally the
7:26numbers that you get from the federal
7:27government, depending on the
7:29administration are lies. They're not
7:30true. So, I think we have tens of
7:34millions of illegals in the country.
7:36What will most of them do? And I think
7:38it depends. Uh it also depends on people
7:42that hold US citizenship, but frankly,
7:44they're only nominally Americans. I
7:46mean, they sort of sit there and say,
7:48"Uh, I'm an American." Uh, okay. What
7:51makes you American? Well, I have
7:52citizenship. Well, popcorn, candy,
7:55citizenship, you know, take your pick.
7:56It's not that difficult to acquire,
7:58frankly. Uh, not for anybody with any
8:00kind of money or influence. It's tougher
8:02for somebody without any. And a lot of
8:05people have worked very hard to get that
8:06citizenship, which is one of the reasons
8:08they're angry about illegal immigration.
8:11But my point is, we [clears throat]
8:13don't know how a lot lots of groups
8:15will, you know, react. Some groups can
8:17go back to where they came from at least
8:19until things here calm down. Other
8:22groups have nothing to go back to. And
8:24then you have the question of the rule
8:26of law. Where do we stand on that right
8:27now? Uh how many police or policemen
8:32have left the service because they're
8:34afraid to do their jobs? They're afraid
8:37that if they do their jobs, they'll end
8:38up in front of a judge and this judge is
8:40going to castigate them and ultimately
8:42crucify them and put them in jail when
8:45what they did was their job. Uh how do
8:48you fix these things? Remember, if we go
8:50back to 2016, these are the things that
8:53Donald Trump was elected to do. Uh it
8:56didn't work out very well for him
8:57because he didn't know what he was doing
8:58during his first term. Then there was
9:00the hope that if he got a second term or
9:03in this case the term that comes after
9:05Biden that he may have learned something
9:07and got something right. We discovered
9:09this time around he's not even in
9:10control. He doesn't govern. It's the
9:12lobby that governs.
9:14So what could happen? I think everything
9:17from outright social disintegration,
9:21societal disintegration into chaos to uh
9:25mild unrest in all of the nation's big
9:28cities because it's in the cities that
9:30are concentrated two kinds of people.
9:33Very high uh end income people, not very
9:37many but a lot. And then at the other
9:39end, large numbers of people who have
9:41nothing. And if they can't get what they
9:43need to survive and they already have
9:45nothing, they tend to be reckless.
9:49So I I can't go into any greater detail,
9:52but I think we have to accept the fact
9:54that none of this is good news. And it
9:55makes you wonder just how completely out
9:58of touch everybody in Washington is. And
10:01every time I visit the place and I talk
10:03to people, I think they're living in
10:05somewhere along the line of 19 the 1960s
10:09or the late 80s, early 90s. They're not
10:13living in the world that that is America
10:15today.
10:16>> Yeah, that's one of the things I worry
10:18about about that very thing because it's
10:20unknown, but it's almost certainly going
10:22to be bad if we go down this path um
10:24which we seem to be heading down. in the
10:26round amount of time I have left with
10:28you, I want to shift gears over to the
10:30Russia Ukraine war because there's some
10:32uh continuing developments that are
10:33going on over there, which is not good
10:35for the Ukraine side. But I think we
10:37talked last time you were on that
10:39Ukraine has now effectively run out of
10:41interceptor missiles, even if they they
10:43weren't that effective uh even when
10:45they're all functioning. Now they don't
10:47even have them to function at all, which
10:49means the skies are just wide open to
10:50whatever Russia wants to do. Um, but as
10:53you were talking about before we went on
10:54the air here, there's also uh another
10:57development on the Russian side which
10:59could have some impact on what could
11:00come next. I wonder if you would talk a
11:02little bit about this uh com comment
11:04that Gasimoff, the uh their chief of
11:07their general staff is coming to the end
11:09of his I think an extended term that he
11:11had already. According to Russian law,
11:13he's not going to be able to. Might they
11:15replace him with somebody who had a
11:18different mindset?
11:20Well, uh, before we leave completely the
11:22war zone, we need to understand that
11:24very recently the Ukrainians
11:26successfully launched an estimated 800
11:28unmanned systems, drones, uh, that had
11:32been supplied by the British. The
11:34British incorporated new engines that
11:36gave them greater range, also a little
11:39bit more speed, making them harder to
11:41shoot down. So you're talking about uh
11:43essentially cruise missiles that fly
11:46about 20 ft above the uh treetops. They
11:50fly very fast. They came in in great
11:52numbers. They struck targets in Moscow
11:55as well as uh Vuler Grant. I've
11:57forgotten the third city. But the point
11:59is they did a lot of damage. Now is this
12:02damage going to stop Russia in its
12:04tracks? No. Uh is it going to make life
12:07harder for the average Russian? Not
12:09really. But it was a very disturbing
12:11event because you're talking about large
12:13numbers of these weapons penetrating air
12:16defenses simply because the radars
12:18couldn't pick them up. And when they did
12:20pick them up, it was too late. They had
12:21already passed.
12:24But remember, these things came largely
12:26from Great Britain. [snorts] And this
12:29goes back to the other issue that we
12:31discussed a few weeks ago, which is how
12:33much longer do the Russians wait before
12:35they take action directly against the
12:37British and other states in NATO that
12:41are actively supplying this stuff to the
12:43Ukrainians. Remember, this is not going
12:44to change the outcome of the war.
12:46Ukraine is losing. It's going to
12:48continue to lose. It'll be devastated.
12:50In fact, more and more look of us
12:52looking at this and the few people left
12:54in Ukraine, less than half of what were
12:56there at the beginning. I wonder if
12:58there will even be a Ukraine on the map.
13:01That's another subject. But I think we
13:03have to take that in consideration. On
13:05the ground, we see dramatic advances
13:08towards Zabarishia. We see the bridge in
13:10Zabarishia, which is, I'm told, still
13:13structurally sound, but has been at
13:15least partially destroyed. Not that it
13:17makes a great deal of difference because
13:19if anybody can throw bridges across the
13:21Nepa River quickly and effectively, it's
13:24the Russians. And I think they can do
13:26that. So I don't think they're all that
13:28dependent on that bridge, though it's a
13:29very nice bridge and can hold a lot of
13:31weight. But I think what we're seeing is
13:34that the movement towards Odessa is very
13:37real and it's begun. Odessa has been cut
13:41off. It's blockaded from the sea. It is
13:44no longer the artery of support and
13:47sustainment for the Ukrainians.
13:50And uh the Russians have actually sent
13:52in specs knots and come out with lots of
13:54prisoners, some of whom I'm told are
13:55NATO officers. We don't admit to any of
13:58that and we will not confirm any of
13:59that, but I think that's going on. So my
14:02my perception is we're at the beginning
14:04of the end for uh Odessa and we're
14:07seeing dramatic movement in the south. I
14:10know that the Russians are on the
14:11outskirts of Karkov. When they plan to
14:15pull the string on that is anybody's
14:16guess. And then again, you now have
14:18someone told me as many as 20,000 or
14:21more North Korean troops up in Bel
14:23Russia uh north of Korea along with 90
14:27to 100,000 other Russian and be the
14:30Russian troops. Those could be hurled on
14:32very short notice south in the direction
14:34of Kiev. So the reason I bring all that
14:38up is that one thing is very clear. The
14:41Russians have at their disposal all the
14:43weapons, all the capabilities, and I
14:45would argue all the troops they need to
14:47end this war. Now, they have worried and
14:50continue to worry about a war with
14:52Europe. I mean, if you go over there, I
14:54everybody I talk to comes back from
14:56Russia says the same thing. Everybody
14:58there thinks that there have to be ready
15:00for a war with Europe and NATO. They do
15:03not see us as part of that. There's
15:06still this perception that the Americans
15:08are not going to be part of that. We're
15:10just dealing with a European threat.
15:12Well, Dan, if that's true, there's no
15:14threat. And that's what everybody keeps
15:16trying to tell them. Maybe maybe
15:19President Putin is realizing this
15:20finally, that the threat that he was
15:22worried about is not really there
15:24militarily. And then, of course, you
15:25have the Matt's government, which is on
15:27life support. It's clinging to power
15:30with its fingernails. Mcronone is in
15:32equally bad shape. And the situation in
15:34Great Britain is more than just
15:36explosive. And if you can get David
15:38Betts to come on and talk to you about
15:40uh the conditions inside Great Britain
15:43for civil unrest and open rebellion,
15:46please bring him on because he's his
15:48work is arguably some of the best I've
15:50seen anywhere on the general question of
15:52what do what do societies do? And
15:54everyone in that part of the world has
15:56had enough with millions of young men
15:58from the north North Africa and the
16:00Middle East pouring into the country
16:02raping, pillaging, committing crimes.
16:05It's unacceptable. They want them out.
16:07And I think that that if you combine
16:10that with the economic damage, it's it's
16:14a recipe for destruction.
16:18>> Figured that out. Now, to go to your
16:19last point,
16:21Grazimoff was given a five-year
16:23extension five years ago. Technically,
16:27he's 70. He's got to leave. Now, can
16:31President Putin say, "I don't care." and
16:33ask parliament to pass some legislation
16:35that allows him to stay longer. I
16:37suppose he could. However,
16:40there's a lot of discontent
16:43with Gazimoff.
16:45Gazimoff is seen as sort of the toad in
16:48the road. Someone who has obstructed
16:50badly needed change in the conduct of
16:53operations. Someone who has exercised
16:57more than just caution, but has been
16:59downright timid. There is a lot of
17:02support for someone else to take over.
17:04Now there are no rumors but remember we
17:07mentioned Surrovikin who came out of
17:10nowhere out of Africa after several
17:11years had a big meeting with President
17:14Putin uh and he was decorated and it was
17:17a a harmonious love fest and then Sroin
17:22disappeared. It's nowhere to be found.
17:25There are people hoping that he may be
17:27the mystery chief of staff that comes
17:30out of nowhere because everybody knows
17:32he's far more aggressive and is
17:34absolutely determined to end this war as
17:36rapidly as possible.
17:39Gazimoff has also jailed at least one
17:41major general who had the uh audacity to
17:45stand up and contradict him and
17:48criticize his conduct of things. And
17:50Graasoff put him in jail. to Putin's
17:53shame. According to many people, Putin
17:55has let the man languish there. Uh
17:57[clears throat] that may change. I don't
17:59know. Russia is a place where, and I
18:02think it's Jim Jatrris that you've had
18:04on your show, he says to me all the
18:07time, Russia is a place where what you
18:09expect doesn't doesn't ever happen, and
18:12what you never expected does. So, that
18:15should set us all up for failure as
18:17prophets, [laughter]
18:19>> right? Uh well let's look at one of the
18:22other things you said a second ago
18:23because it's very much related to what
18:25could be coming next. uh and this is
18:27this presumption which I've also heard
18:29from a number of Russian sources that
18:32they believe that if there is an article
18:345 initiation because Russia strikes
18:36somewhere in Germany and UK etc that the
18:39US will not come in that they will talk
18:41that they'll maybe help out some way
18:44with arms or ammunition but that we will
18:46not go and fight Russia for Europe
18:49because that thing get that that line
18:51gets crossed in there is the United
18:54States let's see if it's not just a
18:56political decision
18:57But I mean, in light of where we are
18:59now, I mean, we're talking about the
19:00problems that we're having with our with
19:02our entire Navy, which you talked about
19:04at the earlier part of the show, when
19:05you're talking about the ammunition
19:07supplies and the limitations on the long
19:10range missiles and the defensive
19:12missiles that we already have, and we
19:14can't fix that with our defense
19:15industrial base anytime in the next five
19:18to six years, probably even longer than
19:19that. Can we go into a fight with
19:22Russia? What if we did? What would
19:24happen to the US armed forces?
19:26>> Oh, I think we'd be in a lot of trouble.
19:28I mean, as you and I know, for all
19:30intents and purposes, we have no army.
19:33The army is a shadow of its former self.
19:35There is no depth in it at all. As for
19:38its state of training and capability, I
19:40wouldn't want to guess. I hear very
19:42mixed reports from the people that are
19:43inside. Uh so, I just don't know. But
19:46when you look at 400, say 450,000
19:50men, [snorts]
19:50h you get about 125 to 130,000 that can
19:54actually fight and deploy the fight.
19:57Then when you begin to look at the
19:58support structures that are required,
20:00much of that has to be mobilized and
20:02transported
20:04uh to the theater, in this case it would
20:06be Eastern Europe and is in the reserves
20:09or the National Guard. Uh I don't think
20:12that's going to happen. By the way,
20:14President Trump just uh expressed his
20:16anger with South Korea and because of
20:20South Korea's unwillingness to go along
20:22with what he wants to do in the Persian
20:23Gulf and some other issues, he decided
20:26to call off a joint exercise involving
20:29the US armed forces and the Koreans.
20:30Now, some of that's on the ground. Most
20:33of it's air and naval scaled down
20:35anyway.
20:37Frankly, the South Koreans, particularly
20:39this government, would like us off the
20:40peninsula as it is. Uh we're not very
20:43popular over there anymore. We've
20:44grossly overstateed our welcome and no
20:48one believes in this imminent threat
20:50from North Korea because the Chinese
20:52won't permit it. I don't think the
20:53Russians would allow it to happen
20:55because the Chinese won't allow it to
20:57happen. Remember, when it comes to
20:59decisions in Asia, Russia will always
21:02defer to Beijing and Beijing wants
21:05nothing to do with a war started by
21:07North Korea. So [clears throat]
21:10Trump acts on the basis of emotion on a
21:14routine basis and strikes out in any
21:16way, shape or form that he can. Uh you
21:19don't support me. You didn't do anything
21:21for me when I wanted you to do
21:22something. So the hill with you. I know
21:24that he pays much attention to treaties
21:26and alliances and legal obligations.
21:30Finally, I still hold that Donald Trump
21:33will resist the employment or use of any
21:36nuclear weapon. And that's based upon
21:39what I saw of him in the past and his
21:41statements uh over the last several
21:44years. I don't think he'll buy into the
21:48tactical nuclear weapon. Now, I could be
21:50wrong. Uh again, remember Mr. Netanyahu
21:53carries a lot more weight than anybody
21:55else and Netanyahu could prevail upon
21:58him to do that. The other thing that's
21:59kind of interesting is that Netanyahu
22:02and Silinski are now closer than they've
22:03ever been. And that's partially Zinski
22:08who's always been supportive of
22:09Netanyahu, but also his desire to make
22:12this the biggest war he can because
22:14that's his only chance in his mind of
22:17success and survival. I think that's
22:20delusional, but I think that's on his
22:21mind. But we have to look at these wars
22:25increasingly as merging as we talked
22:27about before. And so when you look at it
22:29from that standpoint, Dan,
22:31we can't possibly fight two at once.
22:34We're barely able to fight one.
22:36>> And and what even about doctrinally? Uh
22:39I mean obviously you were arguing since
22:421997 about how we needed to reorganize
22:44and reform uh even how we fight and what
22:47we fight with and all that. That would
22:49have been great if we had done that now.
22:51But here we basically haven't hardly
22:53made any changes since your 1997 book.
22:56And we're kind of trying to fight I
22:58don't know World War II or Desert Storm
23:00better than we did before. But not much
23:02changes even with all of these things.
23:04We're trying to graft on a few more
23:05drones here and there and maybe some
23:07more missiles and some other kinds of uh
23:10weaponry etc. But we're not wanting to
23:12change anything. Right now is from some
23:14information that I have just recently
23:16possessed. Only a handful of American
23:18tanks for example, this is just one
23:20example have any of these turtle cages
23:22or any of these other kinds of
23:24protection. Which means that if we
23:26suddenly had to go into an article five
23:28type situation and we tried to fight
23:30Russia on the land, I I mean we would
23:32just literally just get obliterated on
23:34the field because none of our tanks that
23:35didn't have that would even have a
23:37chance of surviving. That's just one
23:38thing. We don't have the offensive drone
23:40capability or the defensive drone
23:42capability or the rapid transition
23:44capability that both the Russians and
23:46the Ukraine have. I mean, it sounds to
23:48me like we would just get our clocks
23:50cleaned if we if we even attempted it.
23:53Oh, I think that's a certainty. But
23:55remember, we have historically relied
23:59very heavily on air supremacy. That's
24:02another matter that has to be called
24:04into question because what is it 25 to
24:0730% of all the Reaper drones that fly at
24:1125 30,000 ft if necessary have been shot
24:14down and lost over the Gulf. [snorts] Uh
24:16we've also lost aircraft. uh we haven't
24:19lost aircraft in very many conflicts
24:21since really the Korean War. So I I I
24:25think it would be catastrophically
24:26stupid to do that. But remember
24:28something else. When I reorganized the
24:30force, I also tied it to an implicit
24:33strategy that was based on the British
24:35approach before 1914.
24:39And the approach that the British had
24:40taken before 1914 is that you do not
24:43confront continental powers on their
24:46terms because you'll lose because you're
24:48primarily in aerospace in those times
24:51only maritime power. The old expression,
24:53a ship's a fool to fight a fort. You
24:56know, we can't do that. The British
24:58couldn't do it. And they should have
25:00learned from the Bore War that trying to
25:02move hundreds of thousands of troops
25:04over thousands of miles to fight an
25:06elusive enemy was a gross waste of time.
25:08But they did it. And after it was over
25:10and it cost them enormous amounts of
25:11money, put them into debt, they made an
25:13alliance with the Japanese. And part of
25:15the agreement they made with the
25:16Japanese who would pick up
25:18responsibility for British interest in
25:20the Pacific because the British could no
25:21longer maintain a Pacific fleet was that
25:25they would provide that is the Japanese
25:26would provide in the event of a war with
25:28Russia
25:30in India 100,000 troops to fight
25:33shoulder-to-shoulder with 150,000
25:35British troops to keep the Russians from
25:37attacking India. Now what am I trying to
25:40say? In other words, [clears throat]
25:42there was some strategic thinking behind
25:45British behavior until 1914.
25:48In 1914, they did what we've done. They
25:51they entered a war they didn't have to
25:52fight against a country that had never
25:55been their enemy
25:56called Germany. No German soldier had
25:59fought against a British soldier since
26:02uh before the Seven Years War. Uh I mean
26:06just earlier than that. There was no
26:09reason, but they did. There was no
26:11reason for us to precipitate this war
26:13with Iran, but we did it. There was no
26:16reason to go into Vietnam. How many
26:18Vietnamese had paddled their way over in
26:20sand pans and attack San Francisco? Not
26:22very many. Uh why did we go back into
26:26Iraq? Well, we we botched our
26:28opportunity in in 1991 to remove Saddam
26:31and put another bunch in there. But the
26:34second time around, we went in because
26:36we wanted to change Iraq and make it
26:38Israel friendly. The first
26:40democratically uh elected government in
26:43the Arab world that would be friendly to
26:45the United States and Israel and so
26:46forth. It's all nonsense.
26:49We're still involved in nonsense trying
26:52to achieve or attain the unattainable.
26:54God forbid that we should try to go into
26:56Cuba. We went there three times in the
26:58early 20th century and that worked out
27:01very badly. We actually wrote their
27:02constitution. We supervised elections
27:04three times, three invasions. Uh we we
27:07got to get out of this business once and
27:09for all. And frankly, Trump doesn't
27:12think so much in terms of this thing we
27:14call the liberal international order,
27:15which is a disaster because it's all
27:18about nation building and stupidity like
27:20that. He thinks in terms of American
27:22military hegemony, which is really what
27:24it's about and has been for a long time.
27:28But our hijgemony is too expensive. We
27:30don't need it.
27:31>> The American people don't want it. The
27:32world doesn't want it. It's unnecessary.
27:35>> But the argument is always the same. If
27:37we don't do this, the whole world will
27:39collapse. Yeah. Every the Russians will
27:41overrun. They'll be sitting on the same
27:43river fishing for dead fish in the same
27:47>> uh you know the uh the Chinese will be
27:49down somewhere is in the neighborhood of
27:51Singapore. Well, they're already there
27:52as Chinese we know. But you know the
27:54Chinese army is going to march back into
27:56Southeast Asia. They're going to attack
27:57down the peninsula. It's all crap. It
28:00needs to go away. We need to get out of
28:02this business once and for all. But
28:05>> this this may be the straw that finally
28:08breaks the the camel's back.
28:10>> Yeah.
28:10>> This thing called Iran. And I think
28:12you're right. And I don't see how he
28:14avoids another collision.
28:18>> And uh man, you've also been warning for
28:20so many years that once we got to this,
28:21I'm talking like for last 20 years that
28:24you and I have known each other
28:25especially. You keep saying one of these
28:27days we're going to get into one of
28:28these wars. It's going to bankrupt us
28:30and then it's going to cause the loss of
28:32empire. And I I fear we're right on the
28:35cusp of that. Uh and I hope we don't
28:37have to prove whether you're right on
28:38that one.
28:39>> Well, we don't need the empire. Never
28:42did. We are an empire right here in
28:44North America. And that's where we need
28:46to focus.
28:48>> Indeed. Yeah. I that it would have been
28:50a lot better if we could have done it by
28:52choice instead of by blundering forward
28:54and losing lots of blood and treasure
28:56and then having it imposed on us. But,
28:58uh, it looks like that's the path we're
28:59also going to choose that we shouldn't,
29:01as you were mentioning a second ago. Uh,
29:03as always, Doug, we appreciate you
29:04coming on and sharing these views here.
29:06Uh, remind everybody to go to Warrior
29:08Diplomacy. Colonel McGregor's got a
29:10YouTube channel. He's also got a
29:11Substack. Uh, all [clears throat] kinds
29:13of great stuff there.
29:15>> Thanks very much, Dan.
29:17>> All right. Appreciate you. And, uh,
29:19Gary, do we have one more show that we
29:21have today? Did we get that confirmed?
29:24>> Yeah, indeed. We have uh Professor
29:25Morandi's agreed to come on at 2:00
29:27today.
29:28>> Very good. So, we're going to get the
29:29the information straight from the
29:32horse's mouth of what in the world is
29:33going on from Iran. Where can we expect
29:35to come next? Uh join Professor Mirandi
29:38at 2 p.m. We'll see you then on the
29:39Daniel Davis Deep Dive.
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