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Rock and Roll History, Week One, Lecture Two: The Tin Pan Alley

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0:01Hello,

0:02welcome

0:04to history of rock and roll.

0:07This is the first lecture, well the

0:11second video but the first lecture in

0:14the kind of chronological

0:17uh order of the class kind of. You'll

0:21see we jump around a little bit. One of

0:23the reasons we jump around a little bit

0:24is that we have to a establish something

0:26upfront here, which we'll get into in a

0:29second, kind of the formation of popular

0:32culture in America or the codification

0:35of popular culture in America. And then

0:37we're going to kind of go back and forth

0:39a little bit in time when discussing

0:41different genres and different

0:43movements. Um, by the time we get to,

0:46you know, like the blues and jazz, we're

0:48kind of in in a more linear fashion.

0:50We'll be moving through, you know, the

0:5120th century in a in a more linear

0:53fashion, but right now we're going to be

0:55jumping around a little bit. Um, I'm in

0:59my home. Keen observers would say, "Oh,

1:01Mr. Turner,

1:03it looks like you're wearing the same

1:05clothes that you did in your other

1:07video."

1:09And uh, to that I say, I don't judge

1:12you. You don't judge me. Um, yeah. So,

1:17I'm uh uh going to just do a lecture

1:19here. A couple things where this would

1:21differ if this was in person is uh of

1:24course you'd you know you'd have my

1:25incredible uh wit and humor.

1:29Um but you'd also like you'd see that

1:31the classes are kind of long like our

1:33our rock and roll history class the one

1:35that I teach at least you know it meets

1:37like once a week for three hours and I

1:39lecture for about two hours and 40

1:42minutes you know like it's a pretty

1:43lengthy stretch. Again, this goes back

1:46to probably the way I was encoded for

1:49for for being a professor. Um, I think

1:52that lectures are cool. I like them. I I

1:56am probably an outlier in thinking that

1:58lectures are cool. Um, but it is

2:01something that I believe in. I believe

2:02that this is still a way to to to have

2:04language or to have information kind of

2:06passed on. It was it's never a closed

2:09circuit though. It's always open for

2:10discussion and I have discussions and

2:12all that other stuff. So here it's just

2:14me talking for a little bit. This is not

2:16going to be three hours. I'm really

2:18trying hard to kind of condense these

2:20lectures a bit and hit some of the the

2:21major points. Again, what I want you to

2:23do when I mention things in my lecture

2:26here, when I mention songs, I'd love you

2:28to listen to that song that's in the

2:30playlist. You'll see a playlist with a

2:32trillion, you know, YouTube links. Um, I

2:35would love to find a better way to do

2:36this. Somebody once suggested using a

2:39Spotify playlist, but I can't stand

2:41Spotify. I think it's an evil awful

2:44corporation. And um so I'm not going to

2:46do that. And and I've never used

2:47Spotify. I don't know, you know, what

2:49that I don't even know what that is.

2:52That's like my sort of hay seed uh North

2:54Dakota redneck response. I know what it

2:57is. I understand how it works. All that

2:59stuff. I just never used it. If you want

3:02to make your own playlist, by all means,

3:04that's awesome. That's super rad. I I

3:06mean, that's you. You do you. That'd be

3:07fantastic. Uh but for right now, I've

3:09just got these YouTube links. So, so

3:12I've got my my tea in my British Sea

3:14Power Cup.

3:17Fantastic band from England. Um, I've

3:20got my reward

3:22at the end. Tim Tams,

3:25Australia's

3:26finest. I have no connection to

3:28Australia. My wife is uh part Kiwi New

3:31Zealander, but I'm I'm not yet. Uh I'm

3:34in my home.

3:36So, uh you know, welcome. I cleaned up.

3:39All right. We're going to start with

3:40something called the tin pan alley.

3:43Okay, this can be seen as a cotification

3:48of sorts of a nent version of popular

3:53culture in America. And what we're

3:55really talking about in this entire

3:56class is pop music. Right? Pop music is

4:00it encompasses, as I've probably said

4:02before and we'll definitely say again,

4:04all of the genres that we're going to be

4:05discussing here, unless I call a out a

4:09specific genre or if you ask me a

4:10question about a specific genre, you

4:12know, via email or whatever. Um, and in

4:15America, by the time the the the time

4:17frame that we're starting with here is

4:20around the 1870s and 1880s, and as you

4:23know, America's really really young at

4:26that point. the the the formation of the

4:29uh America, the American experiment. Um

4:32we know that people have been living on

4:34the what we call America the North

4:36American continent, you know, for for

4:37millennia. You know, this is this is

4:39land that was and I I would hope I don't

4:42have to say this too much. I hope that

4:44most people know this by now, but of

4:46course, America is is built on land that

4:49was stolen outright, that was stolen

4:52from from people who lived here, from

4:54indigenous people who lived here, who

4:56had a vast and vibrant connection uh uh

4:59uh amongst each other's trade routes

5:02that went all over. Some of our

5:04interstates that we drive on in America

5:06today are built on the trade routes that

5:09happened in for for for thousands of

5:12years.

5:14people who would migrate to and forth,

5:16people who lived in different different

5:17ways from what our modern society was or

5:20or from what European society was when

5:22the Europeans came over to America in um

5:26well, I mean, you know, 1492 is the the

5:28Columbus thing. 1519 is sort of seen as

5:31a big date for the American experiment

5:34in many ways. If I'm not mistaken, I

5:36thought that was the first date that

5:38they took um well, I mean, we had we had

5:41Puritans here at that time. Um we

5:43started to um bring people over um

5:47enslaved people over from West Africa uh

5:49starting around that time and moving

5:51forward. That could be 1619 too. I

5:54apologize. 1519 or 1619. I know 100

5:56years is a huge difference. The end goal

5:59is that that experiment of of

6:01experiment, what a disgusting way to say

6:03it. that um economic decision of

6:06bringing human beings over um to the

6:09North American continent and as well as

6:11South American continent and the and

6:12what we call the West Indies the

6:14Caribbean that really is a major lynch

6:17lynch pin in the formation of the

6:19American uh you know country. Um why is

6:23that? Well, because now we have you know

6:25chatt slaves. It's a terrible, terrible,

6:28terrible way to talk about human beings,

6:29enslaved people, um, who are put to work

6:32and they are put to what they call stoop

6:35labor. That is literally picking up

6:36cotton or picking up tobacco or picking

6:38up peanuts. And out of that, we get this

6:42massive amount of tariff money that is

6:46able to be raised from exports. Not a

6:49lot of imports coming in, but a lot of

6:51exports going out. And there are taxes

6:53and tariffs that are raised. And again,

6:55uh, a tariff is a very charged term in

6:582026. Again, um, I think a lot of people

7:00maybe don't understand the the the root

7:03nature of it. In many ways though, this

7:05is what was allowed or allowed us to

7:07build our country, to build our roads,

7:09to build our cities, to build our

7:10infrastructure, to continue to move west

7:12and take over the lands from indigenous

7:14people. Um, these these cultures will

7:16figure into the history of rock and roll

7:17a little bit later in our in our class.

7:19We talk about that. But just note that's

7:21going on. By the 1870s and 80s though,

7:24we have a uniquely cottified um country

7:27that is is is thriving and people are

7:30flocking to our country as a promise of

7:33new life. And by say by people here, I

7:34mean Europeans almost exclusively.

7:37However, there's a lot of people from

7:38Asia who are moving to America too for a

7:41similar reason. Many of whom are moving

7:42to the west coast. They help to build

7:44the railroad connections in the west

7:46coast. I was reading about this thing

7:48the other day actually. I found a really

7:49interesting uh um a partic particularity

7:52in in an old law. There was a time where

7:56they wanted to kick out all of the

7:58people who were um who they called

7:59Chinese uh people who either born in

8:01China or or come come from areas near

8:04China who were just sort of locked in

8:06with all of the the Chinese immigrants.

8:08Many of these individuals ran obviously

8:10as as we we may know they they helped to

8:12build our railroad system in America and

8:16they were starting to send many of them

8:18back. Not unlike the ICE raids that are

8:20happening in America today where an

8:23immigration service will go into a town

8:25and like uh go to a daycare in Chicago

8:28and try to deport people.

8:31Uh you you follow your own heart on that

8:34one, my friends. um in the 19th century

8:37they're doing the same thing. However,

8:39there's an interesting loophole. If a

8:41person of Chinese descent would open

8:44either a laundry a laundromat like a

8:46service of doing laundry or a food

8:49service thing, they could stay in

8:51America. So, this is where we start to

8:53see this huge explosion of Chinese food

8:57um and uh uh andies being run by people

9:00of of Chinese descent. It's really kind

9:02of an amazing thing. If they were able

9:04to prove that they opened those, then

9:06they get to they get to stay. There's

9:07this really old Chinese restaurant in

9:09Montana that dates back to like the oh

9:12good lord like the 1870s or something

9:14that stayed because of that. And

9:15apparently they have similar recipes

9:17that they used at that time uh to this

9:19day. Uh anyway, a little tangent, but

9:21that's where we're at. What we're

9:22talking about here is the Tinpan Alley.

9:24Tinpan Alley is an actual physical

9:26location in New York City and it's a

9:29physical location um that is in what

9:32what is now modernday West 28th between

9:35Broadway and uh uh 6th between Broadway

9:38and Sixth, sorry. If you spend any time

9:39in New York, you might know where that

9:40is in in Manhattan. Uh side note, I love

9:42New York. I think it's fantastic. I love

9:44going there. I'm not from there,

9:45obviously. I'm from middle of nowhere,

9:47but every time I go to New York, I have

9:48a blast. And if you ever can kind of

9:50walk down in that area there, that sort

9:52of West Broadway area, it's kind of fun

9:53to see like, oh, this is where it is.

9:55You know, you can go Google that on your

9:57own what it would have looked like at

9:58the time. You're going to see some

9:59familiar names. The Warner Brothers,

10:02right? You know, um, there's that

10:03company that still represents people to

10:05this day. Um, oh my goodness gracious,

10:08it's escaping me. It'll come back to me,

10:09though. But it's a representation

10:11company, like an ad company. What this

10:13place was this huge building or big, you

10:15know, kind of old old style uh 19th

10:18century building was a place where they

10:19had a bunch of rooms like warehouse

10:21rooms and they filled all these rooms

10:23with pianos and what they would have is

10:24they'd have people in there writing

10:26songs all the time. What they're doing,

10:28what they're trying to sell here is

10:30sheet music. Sheet music is the main

10:33sellable form of music in the 19th

10:35century and into the 20th century a

10:37little bit as well. This is of course

10:39usurped by the um uh the record, you

10:42know, the photograph record which we'll

10:43talk about today too. But this is sheet

10:44music. Up to this point, the only

10:46American artist who's selling like a lot

10:48of sheet music in a major way is a guy

10:51named Steven Foster. He's kind of often

10:53called the father of American music or

10:56the grandfather of American song. This

10:58guy is writing in the middle part of the

11:0019th century. He's dead by uh the time

11:03the Civil War ends, 1864. He he didn't

11:05live to be a very old guy at all. I

11:07think he was 36 or 37 when he died. But

11:11this is a dude who wrote over two to 300

11:14songs, many of whom you still know

11:16today. You know, oh Susanna, oh won't

11:18you cry for me, you know, that kind of

11:19thing. And um and just many many many

11:22others. That guy kind of was a backbone

11:24of American song for a great deal of the

11:2719th century. And he was also one of the

11:29people who was one of the only few who

11:30was like selling a lot of sheet music.

11:32You know, he was selling a major m a

11:34major amount. Who's buying this stuff?

11:36Well, funny you should ask because this

11:38is where we get into an interesting

11:39story. Sheet music is being bought by,

11:41of course, people who want to play music

11:43in their homes. What they would call

11:45their parlor, right? You know, the

11:46parlor trick. Maybe you've heard this

11:48term. This, you know, but long before

11:50televisions and YOUR NETFLIXES AND ALL

11:53THAT, you know, all that kind of stuff.

11:55They had parlors, right? You'd have a

11:57parlor in your house. Uh kind of like a

11:59front room or mud room or something.

12:00Well, not a mud room, but a front room.

12:02And every kid in a family, obviously

12:04families were a lot bigger back then

12:06because you needed a workforce if you

12:07lived on a farm or something like that

12:09or for religious reasons. And in these

12:12parlors, um, people would have like on a

12:14Saturday afternoon or Friday night,

12:16every person in the family would have to

12:18quote learn a parlor trick. And that

12:19could either be reciting a poem or

12:21singing a song or playing a piano.

12:23Pianos were widely sold at this time.

12:25And this is of course the the birth of

12:27the American middle class in the latter

12:29part of the 19th century where larger

12:32cities were becoming more important and

12:34the middle class was starting to assert

12:36itself. Um people are making a little

12:38bit more money. The economy is kind of

12:40going a little bit on the ascendancy

12:42there. We haven't really figured out how

12:43to negotiate with bosses yet. So we have

12:47this sort of robber baron um you know

12:50kind of gross boss behavior that's going

12:52to be coming in a little bit. But unions

12:54start to assert themselves by the early

12:5520th century. That union stuff really

12:58begins in the late 19th century, too.

13:00What I'm saying is then the parlor here,

13:02you've got people families have a little

13:04bit more money so they can afford a

13:05piano. So, we're selling pianos.

13:07Pianists are sold at a pretty ridiculous

13:09rate. I think there's like 45,000 pianos

13:11sold in 1880 alone or something. Some

13:14wild amount. And you'd learn a song on

13:17the piano. Well, how would you learn

13:17something? You get the sheet music.

13:19Okay. Another reason that people were

13:21selling sheet music or to whom they're

13:22selling are vaudeville shows. These

13:24shows that were kind of like carnivals

13:26or or um you know out in the sticks

13:29they'd be called carnivals. If they're

13:30in a more urban area they'd be called

13:32vaudeville tradition or they would have

13:34a thing that would come to your town and

13:36in the afternoon they'd have things for

13:37kids and clowns and all that kind of

13:39stuff. And then as the night went on

13:40they'd have more ribbled uh

13:42entertainment, what we'd call blue

13:44entertainment that would be for adults.

13:46And you can kind of imagine what that

13:47entertainment was like. Um, very very

13:50interesting. Those things all needed

13:51sheet music for every for the bands. All

13:53the bands that they have, they'd have

13:54these pit bands to learn all the music,

13:56right? The pit pit band could be 20 or

13:5830 or it could be 10 or five and they

14:00would all need the same sheet music. So,

14:01Tinpan Alley would write these songs.

14:04They produce the sheet music, they'd

14:05publish it there, and then you'd buy it

14:06from them. That became the locust of

14:10American pop music in the latter part of

14:12the 19th century. Really kind of the

14:13birth of it in a big way. Um, maybe you

14:15could say it's conceived with Steven

14:17Foster, but then with the Tim Panelli,

14:18boom, we get a whole bunch of uh

14:20individuals. Look up Irving Berlin on

14:23the list of songs there and listen to

14:25some of the songs I have listed. And

14:26that's where we get into an interesting

14:28little story there in in in my opinion.

14:30Um, Irving Berlin is indicative of the

14:33type of person who was employed by the

14:36Tinpan Alley. That type of person was

14:38often an Eastern European Jew. These

14:41Eastern European Jews uh came from uh uh

14:44parts that were at the time were called

14:45the Empire of Russia, Russian Empire.

14:48Many of whom or their families were

14:49conscripted by Zar Nicholas II. And they

14:52got the hell out of there because a they

14:55didn't want to fight or b they were sent

14:57to live out in Siberia to move quote

14:59beyond the pale. This is at a time for

15:01of course kind of rampant anti-semitism

15:04um where you know where where Jews were

15:06kicked out of countries. This is of

15:08course leading up to a big apex of

15:10anti-semitism that happens obviously

15:12less than 100 years later in America. A

15:14lot of these people move to America.

15:15Where did they settle? New York. They

15:17moved to New York. They're moving there

15:18from Lithuania, Poland. All of the stuff

15:20was called the Russian Empire, but they

15:22were moving to New York there. Hungary.

15:24Many, many, many people. Why is that

15:26interesting? Why is that unique? Well,

15:28why it's interesting? I can't tell you.

15:29That's that's for you to decide.

15:32I think all sorts of stuff is

15:34interesting that uh that my family

15:37doesn't.

15:39All right. Tea break.

15:43Turmeric tea.

15:46Um I think it's interesting because

15:49these dudes, and it was all dudes, this

15:51is a this is a brodio. This is a all

15:55bros.

15:57These dudes were often educated. Um,

15:59that's unique to know at the time. At

16:01the time, uh, classes were much more

16:03clearly divided. We didn't really have a

16:06codified universal education system in

16:08America quite yet. And I wonder if we

16:10will going forward, seeing as the

16:12Department of Education has been uh,

16:14dissolved at the United States federal

16:15level in 2025 going into 2026. That's

16:19cool. Um what we see also though going

16:23forward here is that these guys come

16:25with literacy which they learned in

16:27Hebrew school which they learned at the

16:28at at temple. Um lots of uh uh people

16:32from Jewish backgrounds and Jewish

16:33tradition. I don't want to you know

16:34paint with a a broad stroke at all but

16:37lots of people valued education in a

16:39really big way. These people also

16:41learned to read and write music too. So

16:44they're coming in loaded for bear.

16:45They're ready to go and they have this

16:47big musical tradition. Irving Berlin in

16:49particular. Very interesting. That guy

16:51gets his start living on the streets.

16:53Well, okay. Moves over in like 1888. Uh

16:56his dad was a a butcher, like a specific

16:58uh uh Hebrew butcher or Jewish butcher.

17:01There's a particular way in which you

17:03know animals have to be killed and blood

17:04has to be dealt with and stuff. And

17:06maybe you know like the uh you know

17:08can't consume pork and and you can't

17:10consume shellfish and there's a

17:11particular way that like chickens have

17:12to killed. That's what the dad did, you

17:15know, for people who were uh um for

17:17people who are acidic or were were more

17:20uh fundamentalist.

17:22And his dad dies when he was pretty

17:23young. And this guy just kind of like

17:24freaks out. His mom lays a heavy trip on

17:26him when he's like 11. His mom's like,

17:28"Okay, you're the man of the house." And

17:30he's just like, and he uh he just bolts.

17:33He goes and lives on the street for a

17:35while. He doesn't want to take care of

17:36his sisters and his mom. And when he's

17:38on the street, by this time he's

17:39already, you know, he's already uh um uh

17:42literate and he can write music and he's

17:44running numbers for gangsters. He's

17:47doing like selling papers like, "Hey,

17:49get your paper." You know, like think of

17:50those old news reels and stuff like

17:52that. And he is also a waiter at a at a

17:56at a restaurant where he was like,

17:57"Serve you your food, but then he'll

17:59sing you a song if you give him an extra

18:00penny." And he's doing that. He's just

18:02kind of honing his skills. Gets a little

18:04older and he comes back home. He's like,

18:05"Hey, mom. I'm sorry. I'll take care of

18:06the family and he makes good on that and

18:09then he starts writing songs and he

18:11starts writing songs for the tin pan

18:12alley and this tin pan alley era in

18:15these individuals they start writing

18:17what becomes the backbone of American

18:19you know song in the 20th century it's

18:22really really incredible um Irving

18:24Berlin himself has written many many

18:26many songs that you know and this guy's

18:27been dead for a while he died he lived

18:29to be 100 years old he died like uh uh

18:321989 um and he wrote you know God Bless

18:34America and White Christmas and uh the

18:37Easter parade song and I mean the the

18:40list goes on and on. One we used to sing

18:41to our our babies when they were little

18:44a song called Blue Skies Blue Sky

18:46Smiling at Me and why that's important

18:48the you know mentioning these songs is

18:50that he would embed in these songs

18:52Hebrew caner music like little moves

18:54that he got from Hebrew caner music just

18:57a huge backbone from Jewish religious

18:59tradition that's in American song. Um,

19:02so this Tim Panali thing, they're just

19:03going great guns, you know? I mean,

19:04songs like Take Me Out to the Ball Game

19:06and uh and all sorts of stuff. Uh,

19:08they're they're these are huge songs

19:10that people are buying and they're

19:11disseminating them when these carnivals

19:13and these vaudeville places they move

19:15around the country and they're playing a

19:17song. You know, they'll they'll come

19:18from New York, but then their next show

19:20will be in some place in Pennsylvania

19:22and then Ohio and then Michigan. They're

19:23playing the same song everywhere. Oh,

19:25that's a great song. Where did you get

19:26it? Oh, yeah. I got this from the Warner

19:28Brothers and Tim Panel. It's right to

19:30them. they'll send you some. You know,

19:32there's all of these kind of things that

19:33happen. That's how these songs get

19:34disseminated. Then, of course, we know

19:36the dissemination process changes into

19:38radio, which we get into later. Um, I

19:41don't know what it is now. I think maybe

19:42probably Tik Tok or, you know, Instagram

19:45reels or whatever social media platform

19:47people use. I think that's how people

19:48learn about songs now. You guys may know

19:50when you're scrolling these things, you

19:51hear the same songs over and over and

19:53over again or a mishmash of songs, you

19:55know. Um, anyway, uh, that's a pretty

19:58important part there. That tin penal.

19:59two things very briefly. We've got

20:01culture that we're really gonna we're

20:03really going to reduce down right now to

20:04two two elements. One is folk culture um

20:08and then the other is what they would

20:10call classic culture. Um folk culture is

20:13of course often not predicated on um

20:16literacy. This is the type of song that

20:19is is shared amongst people word of

20:22mouth. You know it doesn't have to be

20:24written down. So this would be the blues

20:26tradition old folk songs. what we call

20:28the blues was just called folk music for

20:30many years and then it gets it gets a

20:32little shift and changed to uh being

20:34called the blues later on. Um if you had

20:37classic culture that means you had

20:38education of money for education.

20:41Education used to used to have to have

20:43money to be an educated individual. It's

20:45not the case anymore. You can take card

20:47you can take uh advantage of public

20:49school system and get an education and

20:52even if you don't have money you can

20:53parlay that into a college education if

20:55you uh put the work in. I suppose there

20:58are lots of hurdles to that though,

21:00okay? Do not mistake me. I'm not I'm not

21:03discounting any type of privilege uh

21:05basis on the basis of ethnicity or or or

21:08race or anything. But it is possible to

21:10take advantage of the system and I say

21:12that in a good way and and uh and

21:14advance um through education as we know

21:17and I probably don't have to tell you

21:18guys this. You guys are all college

21:19students. If you advance education

21:21oftentimes that means you advance

21:22financially. You can be stable. People

21:24are figuring that out at the time, but

21:25there's still a huge vast amount of

21:26individuals who are involved in folk

21:28culture, right? These songs weren't

21:30written down. That's one thing that

21:31Tinpan Alley did really well. It was

21:34songs that were written down. These are

21:35songs that are, you know, they have

21:36their pen and paper and they'd be

21:38plugging it out. Oh, got it named Tinpan

21:40Alley because it sounded like when you'd

21:41walk past it on any given workday, it

21:44sounded like someone throwing a bunch of

21:45tin pans down an alley because they'd

21:47have these tac pianos that they'd be

21:49playing on and it' be like kind of the

21:50sound be caruming off of uh the the the

21:53buildings there. Uh New York's

21:54incredible by the way. I I still love

21:56that that you can kind of have

21:58similarish experiences there of just

22:00weird stuff.

22:03Um, Tea Break.

22:07If you're interested in the band British

22:08Sea Power, check out their record called

22:11Do You Like Rock Music.

22:14I think it's a pretty good rock record.

22:16I'm into it. Um, they had Oh, the the

22:19song structures of the Tin Penelli had

22:21slightly more advanced song structures,

22:23which is cool. You know, these

22:25individuals were a little bit more

22:27sophisticated in their tempo shifts and

22:29key changes and things like that. and

22:32we're just really kind of waiting for

22:33popular culture and then this new

22:36technologically driven culture that's

22:38ascending to kind of meet with each

22:40other. This is and what I mean by that

22:42is that we're starting to get sort of

22:43break you know we're starting to break

22:44down the walls of what I will basically

22:46call telecommunications the early

22:48version uh of telecommunications the

22:51telegraph you know

22:53you can tell it send telegraphs you can

22:55now send telegraphs around the world um

22:57telephone communication is starting to

22:59be developed by this point by you know

23:01Alexander Graanbell talking into a a

23:04phone receiver and then that then your

23:05your voice being transmitted hundreds of

23:07miles away you know we we're closing um

23:10the ranks on our country really in a big

23:13way. What's wild is that we also still

23:15have a whole vast amount of the west

23:16that's like, you know, virtually

23:18untouched. I I think that's amazing. You

23:20know, I I still love going out west

23:22because it feels very very different and

23:23very uh it just feels like very very

23:26different uh experience within our own

23:28country yet it's still within our own

23:31country. Um you know, for instance, I

23:32grew up in a place that was incredibly

23:34isolated, 120 mi from the nearest

23:36stoplight, you know, 120 mi from a

23:38McDonald's. you know, that's a pretty

23:40different experience than around here

23:41where we're two hours from Chicago, you

23:44know, like that's pretty wild. Um, where

23:47we start to see this this breaking down

23:49further in in terms of uh the barriers

23:51in culture is with like small little

23:54incremental changes. One of those is the

23:56development of the record, you know, the

23:58phonograph record. Phonograph record.

24:00And I hope you guys are into records

24:01yourselves. Uh, records are great. You

24:04know, vinyl records are awesome. I mean,

24:05music's awesome no matter how you listen

24:07to it. Don't Don't let good be the enemy

24:09of great. No, no, no, no. Don't let

24:12great be the enemy of good. That's the

24:14word I like to or the phrase I like to

24:15to say. I heard that recently when

24:17someone was describing seeing a movie

24:19and they had to see it in 70 millimeter

24:21or it wasn't going to be good. So then

24:23they didn't see the movie if they didn't

24:24see it in 70 millimeter where there was

24:26only two places in America you could go

24:28see it in 70 millimeter. So then you

24:30just didn't get to see the movie. Like

24:31what? That sounds crazy to me. A big

24:33screen film is a big screen film. Just

24:34go watch it, you know? Anyway, um

24:37photograph records by 1880, we have this

24:40uh phonograph record that's that is uh

24:42uh being being developed and sold and um

24:46these phonograph records are are not

24:48good. They don't sound good. They sound

24:50kind of crappy. They they pick up low

24:51tones well. They pick up high tones

24:53well. They were used as a dictation

24:54device to kind of get um they wanted to

24:56get rid of administrative assistance and

24:58have just have this photograph record

24:59like you know you talk into it and it

25:01takes down your words, but it was just

25:03poor for that. People figured out though

25:05that once by about 1887

25:07um that this photograph technology had

25:09been kind of transferred to a zinccoated

25:13uh or a wax coated zinc disc and you

25:15could cut Hill andale grooves in it. You

25:17could listen to music on this. So they

25:19started to make these records for with

25:20music. By the 1890s we already have

25:23these uh uh uh entertainment cylinders

25:26they were called. uh a guy named Louis

25:28Glass had them uh um set up and these

25:30entertainment cylinders were set up in

25:34bars and pubs and you could go there and

25:36for a kind of high price of about 5

25:38cents you could listen to a song and

25:40these songs that you're listening to

25:41were uh very low baritone singers that

25:44were often African-American dudes

25:47singing in a low voice that had a

25:48terribly racist name like and the name

25:50may be in your notes. I'm not going to

25:52say it here because it's a really awful

25:53name, but this was in the minstrel show

25:56era where racism was the coin of the

25:57realm. People were super racist all the

26:01time uh openly. Um you'd think that that

26:04would be gone or or elided from our

26:06culture, but man uh spend about five

26:09minutes on Twitter or playing uh Call of

26:12Duty and then uh you'll you'll see that

26:13that's not the case. Um and and this

26:16this guy this guy's name is Louis Glass.

26:18He's these entertainment cylinders be

26:19starting to become jukeboxes. He's the

26:21father of the jukebox in a big way. And

26:23then um we also have these individuals

26:25who starting to wanted to sell these

26:28record players in their stores. And

26:30that's where I think it's a a really a

26:31really cool kind of shift that happens

26:34there. People wanting to sell these

26:36record players in their stores become

26:38very important because these stores

26:40themselves end up being uh or these

26:43record players themselves end up being

26:45sold in these stores that are um like

26:48furniture stores. So, you could go into

26:50pretty much any furniture store at all

26:53in the early part of the 20th century in

26:55a larger urban area and you could buy a

26:58record player. Um, that's pretty

26:59incredible if you ask me that we've got

27:01this kind of notion of something going

27:03on here, right? Um, one last little note

27:06here and then I will wrap this up. I'm

27:08trying to keep these under a half an

27:09hour. Um, I've been told that attention

27:11spans are more like suited for that, but

27:14I just tuned out and I didn't listen

27:16when they told me.

27:18Um really got to note another really big

27:21name from the latter part of the uh 19th

27:23century into the 20th century is a guy

27:26who's the king of the rag times or

27:28ragtime uh uh songs. The king of the

27:30rags they called it. Uh and that is a

27:32dude named Scott Joplain. This guy was

27:34an individual who was just really

27:36incredible. He wrote hundreds and

27:38hundreds of rags they called them. If he

27:40was paid properly for all the songs that

27:42he wrote, he would have been a multi

27:44multi multi multi-millionaire. But he

27:46was completely ripped off by the system.

27:48people would uh publish his songs, sell

27:50them uh in form of both record and in

27:53the form of of course sheet music. And

27:54he was never paid properly for any of

27:56that stuff. He dies pennials. He dies

27:58penniless in a gutter. Like literally

28:00it's like, "Oh man, that guy's on the

28:01street." You're like, it's it's pretty

28:02gnarly. Um and yet again, for the amount

28:05of uh entertainment he gave American

28:08culture, um it's immeasurable. You know,

28:10he should have been a multi-millionaire

28:12over many, many times, but he wasn't. um

28:15possibly died of syphilis too. This is

28:18at a time where of course those types of

28:20of diseases which are easily fixed now

28:22were not easily fixed. So okay, that's

28:25just a little bit about where we're at.

28:26When I come back uh to you next lecture

28:29that you have, we're going to be talking

28:31about the jazz and the blues and the

28:33early part of the 20th century up to

28:34like the advent of the radio. So just be

28:37prepared for that. Please listen to some

28:38of these songs from this uh week's

28:40chapter in a week one or part one

28:43chapter in on the playlist. Just get a

28:46sense of what this music sounded like

28:48and where we're going. And uh I want to

28:50thank you for being in class. We'll see

28:52you later.

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