Anthropic Mods for Claude Code: Too Much Power?

0:00Claude Mods just dropped. We're going to

0:01show you everything that's possible. But

0:03also, one thing happened with robotics.

0:05We had the recreation of the Terminator.

0:07And you'll see exactly what I mean

0:09inside this video when we show this full

0:11clip. Nick, let's begin today with

0:13Claude mods. Claude mods, by the way, if

0:15you don't know guys, are basically think

0:17of them as Chrome extensions for Claude.

0:20Now, we're going to show you some

0:21examples of this. People have been going

0:23a little bit crazy as the internet does.

0:25One such example I think is this one

0:27you're going to see right here is this

0:28individual lets you connect to a

0:30multiplayer Doom server while Claude is

0:33busy. Each player in the match is

0:35another person waiting for their claw to

0:37finish. This is 100% generated with

0:40these Claude mods. Claude mods, if you

0:43don't know, it's basically kind of like

0:44code that you can add to the harness

0:46itself to do all sorts of wacky and

0:49wonderful things. Nick, have you got a

0:51high score in Doom since this is

0:52launched?

0:54So freaking lutely. I love this one in

0:56particular because you're just connected

0:57with a bunch of other people that are

0:58genuinely trying to do something on

1:00cloud. Like whoever came up with this,

1:02it looks like it's Jared Watts here is

1:03is brilliant. Very smart idea. There are

1:06actually economically valuable use cases

1:09for this though. Um some really simple

1:11ones are for instance to include the

1:14percentage of context that the last turn

1:17just took up for you. Um, you know,

1:19another one is the percentage of context

1:21you're currently at plus how much

1:24relative context was used with every

1:26turn. So, as you can see here, there's a

1:27delta of 88.1K on the last turn. Um, you

1:31know, including a variety of like

1:33additional descriptive features where,

1:35you know, every command that occurs, it

1:38like explains what the commands are

1:39maybe a little bit better. Uh, you know,

1:42having features like one or two to

1:44proceed or cancel. you know, Cloud

1:46already does some of this stuff

1:47natively, but um you can basically now

1:49design that little interface to look how

1:51you want and act how you want. You can

1:54also have like summaries done using a

1:56replay feature where you can actually

1:58run through every single thing that

1:59Claude just did line by line as opposed

2:01to having to like, you know, read the

2:03whole thing at once. Um so basically

2:04this just allows you to Yeah, it allows

2:06you to like really customize Claude

2:08code. And I mean the demos that these

2:10guys provided are probably nowhere near

2:11as interesting as most other people will

2:12do. Uh, but obviously we got to start

2:14with the obligatory Doom and COD Modern

2:17Warfare 2 demos.

2:18>> I mean, it like it took the internet

2:20guys 24 hours to generate a COD lobby

2:23and Doom on there. There's a bit of an

2:25ongoing junk online. It's like where can

2:27you play Doom? You can actually play

2:28Doom on a potato

2:30>> powered by a potato.

2:32>> It's incredible. And now you can play

2:34Doom in Claude whilst Claude's kind of

2:36working at the same time. Um, I guess

2:38one question, Nick, is this customiz

2:40customizability now. Claude, you know,

2:42models are getting so good at creating.

2:44I even saw a really interesting

2:45conversation I want to go into in a

2:46second about what you can recreate with

2:49AI right now. But before we do that, the

2:51big question on the table here is well,

2:53we have to talk about the security

2:54compliance because that's a big thing

2:55people have not talked about with this.

2:57But do you think that the customization

2:59neck improves or does it kind of cheapen

3:02the claw coding experience a little bit?

3:05>> No, I think it significantly improves

3:07it. I think it also increases the

3:09complexity or perceived complexity for

3:11total beginners cuz there's going to be

3:13like 10 million people that are trying

3:15to,

3:17you know, like they're there going to be

3:19um a bunch of people here that make

3:20Claude mods out to be like far bigger of

3:22a deal than probably they are for most

3:23people's productivity. Um, oh, you need

3:26this mod or you need that mod. Oh,

3:28whatever. And I can see total beginners

3:29being like, I what the hell is a mod and

3:31how do I get it installed? So, that's

3:33unfortunate. Yeah.

3:34>> But yeah, I mean like seasoned users

3:35will really be able to customize it to

3:36their liking, which is very valuable if

3:38you think about it.

3:39>> Yeah, it is. I remember my message was

3:42if you're new and or overwhelmed, I'd

3:44skip this one. Um, but if you're a nerd

3:46and you like nerd out, uh, then you can

3:49play Claude. One big thing though, if

3:51you're going to dabble with this is

3:52never install any from online at all.

3:55This has access to all your shisel, has

3:57access to all of your freaking

3:59passwords, has access to all the

4:00environmental variables, so you don't

4:02want them running. Essentially, the one

4:04of the biggest red flags you can find,

4:05and this is also true of GitHub repos as

4:07well. Nick and I always talk about

4:08compliance to our clients 24/7. A lot of

4:10people miss this, is you never want a

4:12repo or anything that can do remote code

4:16execution. In other words, embied in the

4:19code somewhere, it basically enables

4:20them to execute code remotely onto your

4:23desktop computer, whatever it is. And

4:25with these plugins, guys, with these

4:27mods, I'm not saying they're all

4:28malicious, but guys, like anytime a new

4:31technology comes out, people aren't

4:32fully what's going on. They will try to

4:34exploit it. So, just be super careful.

4:37Pretty much just build your own. There's

4:38no point downloading someone else's

4:39here.

4:40>> Yeah, I'd agree. I mean, you know, it

4:42has the potential to make things more

4:43interesting, more engaging, and to help

4:45you keep track of just how much immense

4:47work is going on. And I think that's

4:49valuable. Um, but yeah, I mean, just

4:51make sure that everybody and their mom

4:53will be trying to sell you their own

4:54version of cloud mods in the near term

4:56simply because, you know, you'll see

4:57cool, sexy demos like this and be like,

4:59"Oh yeah, I want my cloud bot to do the

5:01same thing." The reality is like be be

5:04careful. You could probably just

5:05redevelop whatever it is that you're

5:07finding online yourself in like a tenth

5:08of the time, realistically. You know,

5:10one thing I'm really excited for about

5:12this though, Jack, is I think right now,

5:15um, you know, like a lot of people are

5:16struggling with whether they should

5:18choose like Nad or Cloud Code or whether

5:21they should use these like drag and drop

5:22builders like Zapier or they should use

5:24something like Codex. I think what Cloud

5:26Mods affords us is the ability actually

5:28to visualize the work that we're doing

5:30similar to let's say an automation

5:32pipeline, a system that you might have

5:34built with NAD. One really cool use case

5:36that um I'm currently working through

5:38with CloudMods is I basically want to

5:41while I'm working on a workflow be able

5:42to visualize almost like a node graph

5:45like what my workflow actually looks

5:46like and then be able to adjust it

5:48simply through natural language as

5:50opposed to through you know actually

5:51having to go through and and and change

5:52the code. So this interface layer I

5:55think has the potential to disrupt a lot

5:56of that like oh what should I pick n

5:58because it's like visual repeatable

5:59reliable or clawed code because I could

6:01do it in a in a flash. Well, it's like

6:03now you could actually probably also

6:04have some visual demonstration of what

6:06you're working on. Maybe some sort of

6:07graph or however you really want it to

6:09look like. Um, so

6:10>> I love that. Yeah, I think I think

6:12that's that's really awesome, dude. I

6:13mean, would I rank it above Doom? But

6:16then I think I think I think absolutely.

6:18No, but I I think that's really cool

6:19because NATN and I had this conversation

6:21recently uh in the community around

6:24should I learn NATM and this still comes

6:27up really what NAT solved was the

6:31visualization of it and it was very good

6:33at debugging wasn't it specifics uh but

6:36the thing about it is guys it AI is

6:38making generally less mistakes now so

6:40debugging is is a trend is you don't

6:42have to generally do as much of it so I

6:44think the visualization problem is big

6:46and actually I think that that's what I

6:48think they should do 100%. So, Nick, if

6:50this mod does that, that's great. We

6:52actually told NA10 this as well. Um, we

6:54were like, you need to I would double

6:56index cuz like obviously they were like,

6:58holy [ __ ] everyone stopped using No,

7:00they didn't. But like, you know,

7:01everyone's like NA10 kind of fell out of

7:03favor pretty freaking rapidly, dude.

7:04That happened within Oh my gosh, dude.

7:07Like a month. The trend was pretty rapid

7:09how that kind of the the attention

7:11economy went from the building with

7:13because Claw just made it too easy. No

7:15one expected Claw to get that good that

7:16quick. That was the thing,

7:18>> dude. I mean, I love all of these

7:19companies for what they've done. But

7:21yeah, it just it it really kills me. Um

7:23because the second that these companies,

7:24these drag and drop builders, whatever

7:26you want to call them, get big enough

7:27that they become like super corporate,

7:28they also become so bureaucratic that

7:30it's like, you know, it's like trying to

7:32get a train started by hand. You know

7:34what I mean? Like there's just so much

7:36inertia in doing the same thing that

7:38they've been doing, thinking that's the

7:39same business model they need to persist

7:41with into the future. I mean, you and I

7:43were telling, you know, their team

7:44members this for god knows how long now.

7:46I was saying similar things to people

7:47that um were using like make.com and zap

7:50year. And I'm like guys, you really have

7:51to get in on this like natural language

7:54spawn a workflow. This is obviously

7:55going to be the dominant way of doing

7:57things. You obviously also need a way

7:59and it could just be like an MCP

8:00connector or whatever to like visualize

8:02directly in browser as people are making

8:04AI changes. And it's like oh no, we feel

8:06like you know our development our

8:07development community will continue

8:08doing things like this way because it's

8:10reliable and it's more procedural. It's

8:13like guys like I wish you know I wish

8:15but the world will never be the same and

8:16you guys just need you know we really

8:18have to get with the program right so

8:21>> yeah it's not surprising there is a

8:22program

8:23>> no it isn't and this was make.com guys

8:25make.com was the big deal uh when I came

8:28on to YouTube it was me.com well before

8:29that but after that but the point is

8:31like it was me then it was naan because

8:33natan let me just for those you know the

8:35history lesson let me get my big dusty

8:37books and brush this off for you me.com

8:40crushed it by making it very simple for

8:43business owners. Basically, this is what

8:44happened. It was drag and drop. They

8:47really did a good job with the UI, Nick,

8:48didn't they? In terms of like showing

8:50the model, oh, I just grabbed the chat

8:51GBT model. Oh, and that connects to the

8:53Gmail mod module. And you, you know, all

8:56the complexity centered around these

8:57things called iterators and aggregators.

8:59No one really the hell they did for a

9:00but the point is like it was crazy. Then

9:02what happened is NA10 which had been

9:05around the background basically cracked

9:08the AI agent. Now, Nick had a really

9:10good point about this that when you

9:12Googled AI agent, NA10 popped up because

9:15effectively they cracked the easiest,

9:17simplest model to consume for what an AI

9:19agent was. You have the tools at the

9:21bottom that plug in, you have the

9:22inputs, you have the outputs, and then

9:24all of their kind of engineering

9:25brilliance really sort of like lifted to

9:28the top. Whereas make.com did not have

9:30at the time an effective compounding AI

9:33agent strategy. They did do it several

9:36months later, but I think they were too

9:37slow to jump on that. And when they did

9:40do it, you had to go into several pages

9:41and then it was over here, then it was

9:43over there. And N10 completely rode that

9:46wave. And then obviously the third

9:48chapter is the rise of Claude and the

9:52rise of chat GPT2.

9:54>> That's how we cloud code

9:56>> and uh and codecs like those ended up

9:59just being able to recreate all the same

10:00automations in a tenth of the time. But

10:03there was a time where there were a lot

10:05of people that were saying, "Oh, like

10:06Cloud Code can build N8 automations in

10:08two seconds." People were like, "H, it

10:10really can't." Um, you know, there were

10:12a lot of like hype cycles in between

10:13here where people tried

10:15>> Mhm.

10:15>> sort of preemptively to move from like

10:17NAT to cloud code or hell, even from

10:19make.com to NAN. And most of them were

10:22total [ __ ] But like, yeah, we're

10:23we're well beyond that time now,

10:25unfortunately.

10:25>> It's funny. It's funny, isn't it? cuz it

10:27was like um one of my mutual friends was

10:29really big on hey what if I can just get

10:31Claude to build an NA10 and I tried it

10:33for a while and I was like guys it's

10:34just not there like it just isn't there

10:35and then one day it was there one day it

10:37just was there and I think one of the

10:39really weird things that happened to

10:41NA10 from a marketing point of view is

10:42that their voice build with your voice

10:45thing was really good because you could

10:47say build me a flow that has Gmail and

10:49XYZ and I was like then it kind of

10:51became like you don't really need to

10:53learn as much about NA10 anymore but the

10:55the biggest punch to stomach really was

10:58Claude being too freaking effective,

11:00anti-gravity being too easy to use where

11:03you could use language. So you didn't

11:05basically if you think about it from

11:07business terms, they basically lowered

11:08the threshold to get involved massively.

11:11Now you just yap and it happens. So

11:13>> the OG's will remember the OG's will

11:14never forget Mick. Um but

11:17>> it's it's a wild ride how quick this

11:19technology evolves and we will be at the

11:21forefront of it leading into the

11:23singularity here on the stag podcast.

11:24Now, Nick, one thing I have to talk

11:25about that's related to mods before we

11:26go into the Terminator, which we need to

11:28discuss. Also, congratulations on

11:30yesterday's winner of the Mac Mini,

11:33which we gave away, guys, cuz St

11:34podcast, we do things a little

11:36differently over here to um to be

11:38cliche. So, what I'm going to say about

11:40it, Nick, have you have you gone to XN?

11:42And we can dive past all of the

11:43commentary on your highly controversial

11:45tweet that we have not discussed.

11:48People are recreating games. So,

11:50somebody built Halo inside Modern

11:53Warfare 2. Have you seen this?

11:55>> No, I haven't. Halo and Modern Warfare

11:572. What should I

11:58>> You type in Halo Modern Warfare mod.

12:01Someone also built uh Mario Kart.

12:05Okay, there you go. Halo Big Team

12:06Battle. Okay.

12:07>> Oh my god,

12:09>> dude. Seriously, they've got the

12:11Warhogs, bro. They've got uh the blue

12:13and the reds. It's It's crazy. And then

12:16on top of this, they also had Mario Kart

12:19inside uh Call of Duty Zombies.

12:23>> Insanity. Skateboarding in Call of Duty

12:26Modern Warfare 2. This is like skate. I

12:28used to love this [ __ ]

12:30>> dude. It's literally like, look at this,

12:33bro. This is ridiculous.

12:35>> That's awesome. That is so cool.

12:38>> Modern Warfare playing Modern Warfare in

12:41like a Halo map. Oh, listen. Like I

12:43don't know if those grunts have met cold

12:45hard steel.

12:47>> They haven't. They have. This is like

12:48This is like You need a BR. You need a

12:50sniper, two grenades, two plasmas, and

12:52bumper jumper. That's all you need if

12:54you're playing Halo. And here we go. We

12:55got Mario now on the beaches, guys. Um

12:57there's actually one there's actually

12:59one of him, bro, in a car where he's

13:01dropping bananas behind him and [ __ ]

13:02It's [ __ ] hilarious. And like the

13:04zombies are behind him and he's like,

13:05"Mario, man." He's like throwing the

13:06thing and [ __ ] And then what is it,

13:08dude? Spider-Man and Arkham Knight.

13:10>> Yeah, this is crazy. This is so crazy,

13:13dude. It's coming for gamers, you know.

13:15It's funny cuz some guy on Twitter was

13:16just like, I can't wait until this hits

13:18gamers,

13:19>> but um the AI wave is going to hit

13:21gamers and like they're going to react

13:23pretty similarly to how the musicians

13:24reacted when music got kind of upended.

13:27But yeah, man. I mean, this is going to

13:28be pretty insane.

13:30>> So, so the why do I bring this up? Apart

13:32from the fact it's so freaking cool. Um

13:34it's because reverse engineering is

13:35getting really good. So AI's ability to

13:37Oh my god, this is the pit. This is

13:38actually my favorite map on this.

13:40>> Jack and I were playing this. He [ __ ]

13:42kicked my ass on this just like what a

13:44few months back.

13:45>> Oh, dude. I had a few I had a few

13:47coffees in me to be fair. So, I was I

13:48was I was buzzed. But the the point is

13:50like this is sick, Nick. Like it AI but

13:53also concerning in a way like AI can

13:54just reverse engineer any software now.

13:56Like the moat was really the fact that

13:57it was too tough to do that.

13:59>> Um

14:00>> but this is this is essentially wild.

14:02Anything you can really articulate you

14:04can build which I think is insane. So

14:07it's just really I think this is an era

14:08for designers. Designers will win here.

14:10Like people with an imagination will win

14:12because now you're not limited by having

14:14to learn a a paniply of highly technical

14:16specialized skills anymore. You can just

14:18talk and nudge and when you know the

14:20right moves, you can do what needs to be

14:21done.

14:22>> Yeah, it's a good point. I mean like

14:24really everybody's so worried about this

14:25disempowering human artist, but this is

14:27the era of human art. There really is

14:29never been a better time to be an

14:30artist. Like what is this but art? I

14:32mean, you know, people will say, "Oh,

14:34you're just recombining games or

14:35whatever." But I mean, like, dude, so

14:36much of art is like the re combination

14:38and novel application of one style into

14:40another. It's just like this sort of

14:41iterative

14:43almost like organic process until we get

14:46a totally new mode of being. I mean,

14:48dude, you could have all of these

14:50characters together like Kingdom [ __ ]

14:51Hearts or something. And just think

14:53about all the cool interactions and the

14:54cool new types of gameplay that are

14:56resolved because of this. It's sick.

14:58>> Didn't he he just did a 180 kick flip

15:00over a cow? I can't believe what I'm

15:01saying right now. Um, Nick, you're

15:04completely right. And it's so freaking

15:06sick and exciting and like I mean it's

15:09so this like you we talk about Halo 3

15:11Forge as like the coolest thing ever.

15:13Like that was like the that was

15:15Minecraft in 2010, right? 2010 2015.

15:19That was the Minecraft of the day. Um

15:21>> yeah,

15:22>> people have always liked sandboxes,

15:23guys. People have always liked

15:26creating things. It's always been really

15:28fun and rewarding, which is why it's so

15:30sick. Nick, let's talk about the

15:31Terminator and what's going on with this

15:32robot as well. We need to explain to the

15:34people what's going on here. Um, so do

15:38you want to run into what we're what's

15:39happening? This looks pretty outrageous.

15:41>> Yeah, it looks pretty outrageous. Solid

15:43marketing stunt here, but um, it does

15:45cover something interesting. For those

15:46of you guys that don't know, Figure is

15:48an AI robotics company. They put AI

15:51inside of humanoid robotics and have

15:53some of the most advanced like robotic

15:55hand articulation on Earth. They've done

15:57a lot of like cool fancy Silicon

15:58Valleyesque demos where you know robots

16:00like figure robots go into a home and

16:02start cleaning things without any

16:04express direction. There's also been

16:06some robot gate controversy here as

16:09well, like u oh you know are there just

16:11a bunch of people in low cost of living

16:13countries wearing masks that are

16:14actually you know doing all this work

16:16and uh you know I don't actually know

16:18the the whole story here but anyway what

16:20they what they did is you they built a

16:22decommissioning system and

16:24decommissioning those of you guys that

16:25don't know is the process of taking one

16:27of these operational robots and making

16:28them well let's just say unoperational.

16:32So what they did is they poured a bunch

16:34of [ __ ] molten steel into this forge.

16:38And when they decommission a robot, what

16:41they do is they give it some highle

16:42instructions and they say, "Jump into

16:46the vat of molten steel to turn yourself

16:49off."

16:50So this is the figure robot looking over

16:53the vat of molten steel and sort of

16:56deciding

16:58it is time for its end. As we see here,

17:01they're doing this in very Hollywood

17:02production style. Ashen, that poor

17:05little guy.

17:06>> He's got the thumb up. This is crazy,

17:09>> dude. This is nuts. Wouldn't that be

17:11cool if that is how they decommission

17:12it? Obviously, they may want to save the

17:13parts, but this is sick. This is sick

17:17marketing. I'm really curious to see how

17:18this goes in.

17:20>> Immediately combusts. Yeah, that's hot

17:22as hell. I mean, we're tens of thousands

17:24of centigrade.

17:26This must be the founder. Oh. Oh, they

17:28got Did they get Arnold?

17:30>> They got on board for it.

17:33>> That is crazy, dude. What do they say?

17:35Like the most ironic outcome is you is

17:37the most likely.

17:38>> So I have no doubt when we do build

17:41terminators, they will build it in

17:42Anie's physique for sure. Do you know?

17:45But I'm like, do you remember like Prime

17:47Anie, like first Olympia Anie with like

17:49that black and white photo. They'll

17:50build them all like that. They'll build

17:52them all like that. And that will be

17:54that will be the thing.

17:55>> Yeah. The photo. Speaking of prime

17:57Speaking of prime art though, like what

17:59is this guy even a real human being or

18:02is he a real like look at look at that

18:03thing. What is going on over here with

18:05that chest?

18:06>> This it was I think that was his most

18:07impressive feature was the chest 100%.

18:11>> The best shot I think

18:14>> the best shot I think if you zoom out

18:16I'll show you which one I think is like

18:17Oh, that one's even correct. That one's

18:18AI gen. Um

18:20>> Oh, that's ridiculous. Okay. See that

18:22one?

18:23>> But this one is like, dude, do not want

18:25to [ __ ] with this guy, you know?

18:26>> Jack the monster. But that one, that

18:28vintage one, that black and white one

18:29there, that bro, to the right,

18:31>> the one with his like uh the one above

18:33that.

18:34>> Yeah,

18:35>> I think that is like that is like

18:37premium chest. That's like ultimate

18:39chest. Dude, I tell you he also had a

18:40ridiculous chest. If you type in Bolo

18:43Young Blood Sport,

18:46>> Bolo Young Blood Sport. Okay, so uh this

18:51guy

18:52>> so this guy was 40 when he did this and

18:57he had like he was like a action hero

18:59like with them Bruce Lee days like it

19:01was in blood like Blood Sport I think

19:02was like a I think it was like 80s or

19:05something but this guy was Jack he

19:06wasn't like a bodybuilder but he was

19:08like his like chest was like especially

19:10like ridiculous. So point is guys, you

19:13got to have a you gota have the packs on

19:14deck. You got to get the packs buffing.

19:17You got the decks up in and sharpening

19:19247. If you take one thing away from

19:21this, that's exactly what it is.

19:23>> But if you don't, this guy will get you.

19:26>> It's the upper chest you got to crush

19:28with that. That's important, guys. We

19:29cover all the important AI topics, as

19:31you know, very well.

19:32>> Um,

19:32>> well, speaking of important AI topics,

19:34Jack, should we cover some of our super

19:36jacked commenters?

19:38>> Let's freaking do it. Let's check out

19:40what the people are saying and what's

19:42happening.

19:43>> Weird. The um joint episode where Nick

19:44and Jack were together did not perform

19:46very well whatsoever.

19:48>> I know Nick, we'll have to kick you off

19:50the next one. See what's

19:54>> I think our timing was pretty outrageous

19:56yesterday, right? Um people were there

19:57were rumblings and grumblings about

19:59timing and we we appreciate that guys.

20:00We appreciate with the time zones of

20:02traveling. Um we appreciate bearing with

20:04us a little bit

20:06>> to see the um the funny post I made.

20:08Jack, I don't know. Jack, you might know

20:10how this, but I said stacked will arrive

20:1212 hours later today as Nick and Jack

20:14are currently occupied fighting forces

20:16of incomprehensible evil in the forever

20:18war of light versus dark.

20:20>> We'll also be announcing the winner of

20:22money. So, you should you should watch

20:24the episode. And safe to say people did

20:26not watch the episode.

20:30>> Guys, you don't you don't tune in. What

20:31can I say? This is outrageous behavior,

20:33guys. I think it was a pretty pretty

20:34niched um episode to be fair. from some

20:37of the topics. Um, but what is not niche

20:39is some of these comments. We have a

20:41cracked out 30-year-old trying to build

20:43a trillion dollar company checking in

20:45forces for good only. Thanks for being

20:47the podcast. We appreciate that. I think

20:49trillion has become the new thing, Nick,

20:50ever since Musk hit it. It's like that's

20:52now the new bench to new bar.

20:54>> Yeah, it's like the 4-minute mile. By

20:56the way, have you ever tried to run a

20:574-minute mile?

20:59>> I haven't, dude. I was never a really

21:00big fan of running actually to be

21:01honest. Dude, I tried running a tried

21:05running like a seven minute mile the

21:06other day and I was like absolutely

21:08[ __ ] Like I cannot believe people

21:10actually ran four-minute miles. Okay.

21:12Anyway, there's a good question from

21:14William. He says, "Do you think it's

21:15viable to sell individualized AI

21:17consulting services versus AI content

21:20creation today?" Jack, what do you

21:22think?

21:24Interesting. Let's have a think about

21:25that.

21:27Do you think this helps individualized

21:28air consult

21:31um if do you mean can I I mean all

21:34consulting is individualized right so

21:38are you asking should I create content

21:40with AI or sell services that really

21:42depends on you ma'am and what you want

21:43to do

21:46>> yeah I mean looking from his uh from his

21:48profile looks like he's he's a musician

21:52>> got a thousand subs that's very cool

21:53>> got thousand subs he's done pretty well

21:55I mean like maybe AI content means, you

21:58know, like music or or or whatever.

22:00Maybe it means like, you know, selling

22:02content. If if it's a question between

22:04selling AI consulting or selling the

22:05outputs of like a system that generates,

22:07I don't know, let's say ads or organics

22:09or whatever. Honestly, I think it's I

22:11think it's either or today. I think a

22:13couple years ago, AI consulting was the

22:16primary way by which you built a

22:18business. Well, actually, no. I think

22:20first it was AI implementation. maybe

22:22about a year ago was like consulting on

22:24the implementation and just broader

22:26business strategy in the era of AI and

22:28then I think right now it's basically

22:30equal about whether you do that or you

22:31like sell the actual AI content to

22:33people like say AI ads and stuff like

22:35that simply because you know we're we're

22:37moving up the bandwidth ladder right we

22:38started with like AI for text like I

22:40started my um content writing company

22:42that used AI to write content like five

22:44years ago now six years ago or something

22:46like that it's it's been quite a hot

22:47minute um but like that was text right

22:50now we're doing like images video

22:52sounds, music, whole cinematic

22:53productions. And I think like as the

22:54bandwidth requirements go up, eventually

22:56people will want more like media

22:58is is my take.

23:00>> I agree. I think media is also exploding

23:02right now as well to be fair on the on

23:04the AI space, creating, editing,

23:06amending, that kind of thing. 100%.

23:09>> Yeah.

23:09>> Thank you for the good pod bros. Do you

23:12guys ever plan on having guests on the

23:14podcast?

23:16>> Maybe. But who who the hell is going to

23:18come on? like who sorry who are we going

23:20to let on is the question I might let we

23:22may let that decommissioned robot on

23:24perhaps

23:26we'll see we'll see we'll see what the

23:29future holds but you know maybe we do

23:31maybe we have one of our pack our stack

23:33subscribers on for a Q&A in the last 10

23:34minutes at one point we may we may do

23:36that as a giveaway may do some fun stuff

23:37so we'll have a we'll have a think but

23:40there's only room for so many shoulders

23:42guys only room for so many shoulders on

23:43this podcast

23:45>> this is your 14th day trying to win a m

23:47many we're thinking of be we might mix

23:49up the competition, guys. We might do

23:50something a little different. We might

23:52try and add a little bit of spice to it.

23:54So, we're going to have a think about

23:55what would be cool. So, let us know down

23:56below. Um what would be a fun thing to

23:59do from a giveaway point of view? We

24:01we'd like to hear what your thoughts are

24:02so we can continue to make it more and

24:04more epic.

24:06>> Yeah. How about two Mac Minis, Jack?

24:09>> Two Mac minis. How about you become a

24:12Mac Mini?

24:14We will literally turn you into you

24:16>> in in molten steel and use your carbon

24:19to make a Mac Mini.

24:21>> I like that. That's the most Mac mini

24:23thing you could do for somebody. I love

24:25that. Nick, we got to love more

24:26competition. We've got an electrician in

24:28the comments. CBD e-commerce experience.

24:31Um, they're moving some with low cost of

24:32living to pursue self-employment. I

24:34respect that, bro. It is never too late,

24:36dude. 39 is very young. You can kick

24:38some butt, dude. I I love the energy,

24:40Alex. That's fantastic. Yeah, CBD

24:42e-commerce sounds like a really

24:43interesting niche. Um, very very

24:45interesting. And mortgage processing

24:46company with my wife. I gotta be honest,

24:48I thought about this. Would you work

24:49with your uh spouse or wife, Jack? Is

24:53that something you would ever do? Like

24:54start a business with your wife again

24:56business with uh Leila, right?

24:59>> Yeah, I've done it previously and I

25:01wouldn't do it again personally.

25:03>> And the reason for that is I think like

25:05it's very easy for obviously everyone

25:08can do what they want, right? But I

25:09think that what I personally found is

25:11that you just get to the point where

25:13you're just talking about business over

25:15dinner. It's like, "Oh, did you just see

25:16the Johnson Johnson invoice?" And it's

25:18like it it very quickly become like

25:20unless you have very very strict

25:21guidelines, everything becomes like cuz

25:23because I like cracking deals 24/7. So

25:26if I'm like if my girlfriend's cracking

25:28deals, I'm talking about it all the

25:30time. So it's um No, I I like to

25:32separate house and home and a business a

25:35little bit. That's my kind of current

25:36thought on it, bro. How about you? Yeah,

25:38makes makes perfect sense. I mean, you

25:40know, I've like played around with the

25:41idea and I've had relationships where

25:42we've both done businessy stuff before.

25:45Um, and you know, like it's it's fun in

25:46so far that like I love talking about

25:48business. I love talking about building

25:49things and growing, but at the same time

25:51also I think maybe it's just an age

25:53thing. The older I get, the more I'm

25:54like sometimes I just want to turn that

25:56part of my brain off and actually just

25:57like go sit in a hot tub and just be,

26:00you know?

26:00>> So,

26:01>> there is something to be said about

26:02that.

26:04>> And that's what gaming's for. And

26:05speaking of gaming, guys, we're going to

26:06go and play Mario Kart. and psychology

26:08right now. Um, so have a beautiful day.

26:10We will catch you inside the next

26:12episode. See you.