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0:19Welcome to another episode of Live
0:21Bryłka . I invite you to subscribe to
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0:33But above all , I encourage you to ask
0:35questions — as I do every Friday , I
0:37will answer your questions on various
0:39topics , primarily those I am
0:41knowledgeable about and up-to-date on ,
0:43especially regarding the European
0:45Parliament , but also national politics .
0:53Today we are returning to the topic of
0:55immigration , and not by accident ,
0:57because this week — published on
0:59Wednesday — a report from the Berlin
1:01Institute for Migration Research and
1:03Analysis was released , which should
1:05shock us all and force us to reflect on
1:07the situation currently facing Western
1:09Europe . And what we as Poland and as
1:17Poles should do is simply draw
1:18conclusions from the migration policy
1:20that Western European countries have
1:22pursued over the last decades , as well
1:24as from the decisions being made today
1:26at the level of various member states
1:28regarding migration policy . Well ,
1:33according to this report , it turns out
1:36we have a record number of migrants in
1:38the European Union . And , of course , in
1:41Germany , it is already over 1/5 of the
1:44population . In short , the number of
1:48migrants residing in the European Union
1:51reached a record level of over 64
1:53million in 2025 — last year . And this
2:02is in comparison to 2024 ; between 2024
2:05and 2025 , there was an increase of over
2:082 million migrants across the entire
2:11European Union . Obviously , this report
2:17clearly shows that Germany is the main
2:20destination for migration . In short ,
2:23Germany remains the country with the
2:25largest number of people born outside
2:27its borders . Our western neighbors have
2:32about 18 million migrants , who make up
2:35about 21 % of the entire German
2:37population . To clarify these figures
2:43for you , the study defines immigrants
2:46as people born abroad . As an
2:51interesting fact from the report , Spain
2:54recorded the fastest growth recently ,
2:56taking in about 700,000 people and
2:58increasing its foreign-born population
3:01to 9.5 million . That is an 8 % increase ,
3:06more than double the EU average . I will
3:10get to Spain and Poland in a moment ,
3:12but regarding other data published in
3:14the report , while Germany remains the
3:16main destination for migrants , smaller
3:18countries like Malta , Cyprus , and
3:20Luxembourg face the greatest burden of
3:22migrants relative to their population .
3:26In Malta , it is 32 % , in Cyprus 28 % , and
3:31in Luxembourg 52 % . As for Poland ,
3:36although — because this report deals
3:38only with migrants and not refugees , so
3:40for Poland , the issue is more about
3:42refugees from Ukraine than migrants .
3:45However Poland still remains below the
3:49EU average in terms of the share of
3:51migrants in the population . And this
3:55ranking is closed out with a figure of
3:582.6 % the percentage of migrants in the
4:03total population . I will remind you
4:05that in Germany it is 21 % , and for us
4:08it is 2.5 % , 2.5 % . So , I encourage you
4:12to read this report . It is truly
4:15terrifying that 1/5 of the population
4:17of our western neighbor consists of
4:19people born outside the borders of
4:21Germany . outside the borders of Germany
4:24. And I am moving smoothly to this ,
4:27because I said I would also talk about
4:29Spain . I have mentioned this here
4:32before , in earlier recordings . Spanish
4:38Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez has
4:40adopted a decree legalizing the stay of
4:42illegal immigrants at a level of half a
4:44million , meaning half a million people
4:47who had an irregular status , who simply
4:49did not have the right to stay in Spain
4:51. Upon meeting certain conditions , such
4:57as a sufficient length of stay in Spain
4:59and a clean criminal record , they
5:01receive legal status in Spain . And
5:05given that , Spain is effectively
5:06becoming , through these decisions by
5:08Prime Minister Sanchez , an open gate to
5:11Europe for migrants from all over the
5:13world . Because if you can come to Spain
5:19illegally , cross that border illegally ,
5:21be an illegal migrant in Spain , and
5:23then obtain legal status after a
5:25certain period and with a clean record ,
5:27it is above all very dangerous for
5:29other member states . That is why my
5:39political group in the European
5:41Parliament is calling for a reform of
5:43the Schengen Zone , reserving free
5:44movement within the European Union and
5:46the Schengen area exclusively for
5:48European citizens . Which , of course , is
5:58a clear signal that the Schengen Zone
6:00should be solely for those who hold
6:02European citizenship , meaning
6:04citizenship of European Union member
6:06states . Linked to migration policy is
6:12also a very important fact from this
6:14week , regarding what happened in the
6:16Podlaskie Voivodeship . Imagine , last
6:21year , in June 2025 , the Podlaskie
6:23Regional Assembly adopted a position
6:26opposing the migration policy of the
6:28European Union . The point was that this
6:33position opposed the migration pact and
6:37expressed , as I understand it , the
6:39position of the entire voivodeship . In
6:41short , such a position was adopted by
6:44the regional assembly . In the meantime ,
6:47the Podlaska Opera and Philharmonic had
6:49applied for a 43 million zloty grant
6:51for stage modernization from an EU
6:54program overseen by the Ministry of
6:56Culture . And imagine , the Ministry of
7:01Culture refused to grant these European
7:03funds due to discrimination and
7:05violation of fundamental rights .
7:11Therefore , this week , Jacek Piorunek , a
7:13member of the regional board , proposed
7:16at a session to repeal the position
7:18adopted by the assembly in June 2025
7:20expressing opposition to the migration
7:23pact . And in short , the regional
7:28assembly has to withdraw its resolution
7:30so that the Podlaska Opera can receive
7:32the funding . That is exactly how it
7:35looks . Meaning that is how it will look
7:38in future budget cycles . So , we are not
7:41opposing the migration pact . It turns
7:44out that European funds are not being
7:45received . Money that we , as Poland ,
7:48also contribute to through our
7:50membership fees . These are also our
7:52financial resources ; these are also
7:54Polish taxpayers ' money . This is our
7:59budget , from which a corresponding
8:01portion is transferred to the EU budget
8:03, so to a large extent , this money is
8:05simply owed to us as a state associated
8:07with the European Union . However , under
8:13such pretexts as opposition to
8:14migration policy or opposition to the
8:16European Union's migration pact , such
8:19financial resources can be blocked , and
8:21the Ministry of Culture has done
8:23exactly that , seeking through such a
8:25decision to influence the independent ,
8:27self-governing decisions of , in this
8:29case , the regional assembly . I would
8:35like to remind our viewers here , my
8:37viewers , that the migration pact enters
8:39into force in the middle of this year ,
8:41and truly both the Polish government
8:43and the Ministry of Interior keep
8:45misleading people regarding the idea
8:47that Poland has been exempted from the
8:49migration pact for many years . Let me
8:58remind you once again : Poland is a
9:00country that does not make a solidarity
9:02contribution only in the year 2026 ,
9:04because for every year , a separate
9:06solidarity pool is established — that
9:08is , the pool where there are states ,
9:11the pool to which states contribute in
9:13solidarity , whether financially or
9:15through other contributions , unless
9:17they are beneficiary states . In other
9:24words , they then benefit from this
9:26solidarity pool . This year , in '26 , the
9:30beneficiary states of the migration
9:32pact are Greece , Spain — which I
9:34mentioned earlier — Italy , and Cyprus .
9:37So these four states are the
9:39beneficiary states , they are the
9:41recipients from this solidarity pool .
9:43We as Poland , or rather the European
9:45Commission , have classified Poland as a
9:48state under migratory pressure , so we
9:50do not make this contribution , and for
9:52us , in this table detailing these
9:54contributions , it is zero . However ,
9:56this is only and exclusively for that
9:58part of 2026 ; there will be another
10:00solidarity pool for the next year , that
10:03is , for the year 2027 . Therefore , it is
10:06a lie and misleading to provide
10:08information regarding the exemption of
10:10Poland from the migration pact for many
10:13, many years . No , nothing of the sort
10:16is happening , nothing of the sort is
10:18taking place , so I also urge you to be
10:20cautious regarding this matter . In
10:22short , regarding this entire migration
10:24policy and the record number of
10:26migrants in the European Union , I refer
10:29to the report by the Expert Council on
10:31Integration and Migration ( SVR ) in
10:33Berlin , and I strongly encourage you to
10:35read this report , as it is truly
10:37shocking . Before I answer your
10:42questions , there is one more report
10:43that I have prepared for you today , and
10:45I will share it with you as soon as I
10:47reach it here . Uh , this is , uh , a study
10:52and report prepared by , uh , Alior Bank
10:55analysts : ETS2 , the costs of
10:58decarbonization and the impact on fuel
11:01prices . I very , very strongly encourage
11:04you to take a look at it . I hope it is
11:06clearly visible . Uh , and I will lift it
11:10higher . M I encourage you to read it .
11:15This is another report in which the
11:17financial consequences of the
11:19introduction and entry into force of
11:21ETS2 have been analyzed . Uh , previously
11:25, such a report was prepared by the
11:27Warsaw Enterprise Institute , but also
11:30by other think tanks , not only Polish
11:32ones , but also those abroad . Uh , I am
11:35returning to this ETS2 because it is ,
11:38uh , a directive that has not yet been
11:40implemented in Poland , and we should
11:42not implement it as a member state .
11:46This is the directive that extends the
11:48ETS1 system to road transport and
11:50construction , and it enters into force
11:53in 2028 . It concerns the fact that
11:57there will be another tax embedded in
11:59the price of fossil fuels for heating
12:00buildings . And , of course , the fuel you
12:04use to fill up your cars . So , it will
12:06be such an embedded tax . Here , uh ,
12:10analysts calculate , uh , how ETS 2 — and
12:14I emphasize just ETS 2 — will affect
12:16fuel prices after 2028 and who will
12:19feel it the most . I don't know if you
12:24can see it , so I will read it to you
12:25here . In 2028 , on a liter of gasoline ,
12:29this is a price increase of 65 groszy .
12:32Diesel fuel 75 groszy , LPG 45 groszy
12:362020 2000 and the cumulative fuel price
12:43increase in the years 2028-2031 year .
12:48In the baseline scenario , this amounts
12:51to 1.35 PLN per liter of gasoline and
12:551.57 PLN per liter of diesel fuel . In
12:59short , drastic , drastic , drastic hikes .
13:03Of course , assuming the optimistic
13:05scenario that the prices of emission
13:07allowances set out in the ETS2
13:09directive remain at the level of 45 €
13:11per ton . Everyone agrees that this is
13:13impossible . But let's also remember
13:15that the intention of the European
13:17Commission and this entire climate
13:19policy is to connect the ETS1 system ,
13:21which is already in force , uh , in power
13:24plants , cement plants , the steel
13:25industry , uh in the heating system ,
13:30like district heating . Uh , oh , the word
13:35escaped me , but when I remember it , uh ,
13:38district heating is also covered by
13:40ETS1 , and you are already paying for
13:43ETS1 in those goods . Of course , it is
13:48most noticeable in energy prices and
13:50electricity bills . We also had an
13:53informal meeting and an informal
13:55European Council summit from yesterday
13:57until today , but I won't go into its
13:59details because it was an informal
14:01summit , so there isn't much binding
14:03information coming out of it . Of course
14:05, we have a press conference by the
14:07European Commission President and the
14:09European Council President themselves ,
14:11who are already talking about new own
14:13resources , which apparently were agreed
14:15upon at this summit . An important topic
14:18was , of course , Ukraine as well .
14:21President Zelenskyy also appeared on
14:23site and was present at this meeting .
14:27Naturally , a very hot topic there was
14:29Ukraine's membership in the European
14:31Union , which is also an element of one
14:33of the conditions for a peace agreement
14:35. However , the European Commission is
14:38currently proposing a kind of partial
14:40membership for Ukraine in the European
14:42Union . Of course , the Ukrainians do not
14:44want to agree to this . The key , most
14:46important topic is the situation in the
14:49Middle East . At this European Council ,
14:53there were also energy prices , but also
14:55Cyprus , which is the place where it was
14:57held , during the Cypriot presidency .
15:01Well , and in Cyprus , this European
15:03Council also took place , and the topic
15:06of a mutual defense clause came up
15:08there . This is a clause very similar to
15:12Article 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty ,
15:14the NATO treaty , which specifically
15:16talks about this mutual assistance . And
15:20some European Union countries want more
15:22details on how this mutual defense
15:24clause would actually work . So we also
15:30had a European Council summit without
15:31the participation of the leader from
15:33Hungary , but also other leaders who
15:35were absent from this summit . And I
15:40think I will move on to your questions
15:42so as not to drag this out . If there
15:44are any questions , I encourage you to
15:46ask them . Like every Friday , do I often
15:53meet ? And I think I'll go from the
15:54beginning . I won't make things up here .
16:00Do you often meet graduates of the old
16:02Kiejkuty or their foreign counterparts ?
16:06No. Good evening everyone . Good evening
16:08, Ms. Ania . Did you have a busy week ?
16:11Or did the week pass by peacefully ?
16:12Greetings . Pop Channel Boy , I see my
16:15favorite commentator and questioner
16:17here . So , answering that , it depends on
16:22the day . There are days that are a
16:25little bit calmer . There are days that
16:27are more active . Actually , Fridays ,
16:30because I am most often in Warsaw on
16:32Fridays , are much more active in terms
16:35of me trying to handle several media
16:37outlets on these Fridays as well . So ,
16:42before I arrived here to you and
16:43recorded this live , I had three
16:45interviews beforehand , so I also
16:47encourage you to watch them , because we
16:49were commenting on various events that
16:51took place this week in real time . Good
16:55evening . Do you think that the
16:57immigration that began in 2014-2015
16:59conditions the current situation in
17:01Europe socially , economically , and
17:03politically ? Or perhaps it is better to
17:05ask to what extent ? Of course it
17:09determines it , because 2014-2015 , that
17:11first migration crisis , was a mistake
17:13— the biggest mistake made by the
17:15then-Chancellor of Germany , Angela
17:17Merkel — which was sending an
17:19invitation to migrants from all over
17:21the world , saying there is a place here
17:23in Europe for everyone and that Germany
17:25would take everyone in . And that simply
17:30has its consequences . It still has its
17:32consequences to this day . It has , of
17:34course , social , economic , but also
17:36political consequences , and the Spanish
17:38Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez , whom I
17:41mentioned here earlier — that
17:42legalization of the stay of those
17:44illegal immigrants — Ms . Irene Montero ,
17:47a Member of the European Parliament
17:49from Spain , a socialist , she clearly
17:51said that we must go further and that
17:53we must grant immigrants voting rights .
17:57This is precisely so that the left has
17:59its own electorate , because the left ,
18:01with its policy demands , its way of
18:03operating , and so on , is simply losing
18:06that electorate , and these immigrants
18:08can be a reservoir — a reservoir of
18:10voters for the left in the coming years
18:12. So it has very , very significant
18:18social , economic , political , but also
18:20identity-related effects . Truly , while
18:27working in the European Parliament ,
18:29members from other countries very , very
18:31much appreciate the way countries in
18:33our region look , especially Poland . I
18:41very often hear from members from
18:43various member states that Poland is ,
18:45above all , a safe country , that we do
18:47not have the problems that France ,
18:49Belgium , and Spain are facing today —
18:51countries that have a very , very large
18:53population of migrants , especially with
18:56all the consequences associated with
18:58this mass immigration . They very , very
19:06much appreciate how Poland functions
19:08and looks , and I would like it to never
19:11change , so that we simply do not make
19:13the mistakes of Western European
19:15countries , because in some of those
19:17states , these policies and mistakes
19:19from the last — it's not just the last
19:2110 years , of course this migration has
19:24accelerated very strongly in the last
19:26decade — but these mistakes have led to
19:28the fact that today these states have
19:30huge , huge problems with security , with
19:33precisely these issues : economic ,
19:35social , the functioning of specific
19:37cities , rising crime , and so on and so
19:39forth . I probably don't need to explain
19:42that . Most of you probably understand
19:45this even better than I do . Jacek Kluza
19:52. Do you believe today's declaration by
19:54Kosiniak that Poland will , after all ,
19:56challenge Mercosur ? Honestly speaking ,
19:59I was very surprised by this
20:00declaration from Deputy Prime Minister
20:02Kosiniak-Kamysz , and at first , I had
20:04major doubts as to whether the Prime
20:06Minister's office was even aware of
20:08this complaint . Well , it seems they are
20:10aware of the complaint . However , ladies
20:12and gentlemen , I have very serious
20:13doubts about when this complaint will
20:15be filed , in what form it will be filed
20:17, what it will be filed against , and
20:19what arguments will be raised in this
20:21complaint — because I have explained
20:23this here many times and I will not
20:25repeat it . I refer you to the
20:28Merco-bryłka episode , in which I
20:30explain why the complaint against the
20:32Council's decision of January 9th on
20:34the provisional application of the
20:35agreement with Mercosur countries is
20:37challengeable in the Court of Justice
20:39of the European Union , and that the
20:41European Commission broke procedures
20:43and , despite promises made to us ,
20:45Members of the European Parliament ,
20:47that there would be no provisional
20:49application of the trade agreement with
20:51Mercosur countries until the European
20:53Parliament voted on this part , well , it
20:55is a breach of the ratification
20:56procedure set by the European
20:58Commission itself . I have doubts about
21:02this complaint because the provisional
21:04application of the agreement with
21:06Mercosur enters into force or will be
21:07in effect , since this is a provisional
21:09application of the agreement before it
21:11enters into force on May 1st , so this
21:13complaint should have been filed
21:15already to complete all procedures and
21:17to halt this provisional application .
21:18Because , ladies and gentlemen , everyone
21:20in the lobbies says that once this
21:22agreement enters into force
21:24provisionally , it will simply be in
21:25effect . Then no complaints will help .
21:28Even voting against it in Parliament
21:29won't help . It will simply , it will
21:33simply , uh , just be in effect . Yes , yes
21:36, yes . In the lobbies , people who are
21:39better versed in European Union trade
21:41policy than I am are saying this . So
21:44with the date of May 1st , if this
21:46provisional application takes place ,
21:47and after all , it is already published
21:49in the Official Journal of the European
21:51Union , well , then this agreement will
21:53simply be in effect . The question is ,
21:55to what extent is this a pro-forma step
21:57. To what extent is this just a way to
21:59calm the mood a bit . This could have
22:01been done several good weeks ago . It is
22:05not as if we had to wait until today .
22:07Well , the agreement enters into force
22:09in a week , and today , only today ,
22:11Deputy Prime Minister Kosiniak-Kamysz
22:13is informing us about it . It certainly
22:16should not look this way , this way ,
22:18this way . I refer you to my earlier
22:21recordings ; we have really devoted a
22:23lot of time and a lot of material here
22:25on this channel to the Mercosur
22:27agreement . Thanks to the fact that I
22:31work in the International Trade
22:33Committee , and this Mercosur largely
22:35passed through my committee — of course
22:37, to a very limited extent and in this
22:39final phase , because the agreement had
22:42been negotiated since 1999 , so we were
22:44only involved in this last phase .
22:48However , this is the total impunity of
22:51the European Commission , pushing this
22:53agreement through by force , breaking
22:55procedures set by the European
22:57Commission , lulling the vigilance of
22:59member states , and lulling the
23:00vigilance of farmers and the entire
23:02agri-food sector . And also , of course ,
23:08a massive threat to consumers , who I
23:10think don't fully realize how different
23:12our food production standards are in
23:14South America and in Europe . If Europe
23:20has truly withdrawn from many active
23:22substances in plant protection products
23:24, or has introduced a very restrictive
23:26policy regarding animal welfare , and at
23:28the same time imports food from third
23:30countries where these restrictions
23:32don't exist and where these substances
23:34are permitted , then there are two
23:36options , right ? Either South America
23:40adapts to European Union production
23:41standards , or the European Union lowers
23:44its production standards to match South
23:46American ones . Only then can we compete
23:48on a level playing field , but it cannot
23:50look the way it looks right now .
23:53Meaning , we have very high production
23:55costs and very strict standards , while
23:58at the same time the Union opens the
24:00community market to goods from third
24:02countries that simply do not have such
24:04standards . There may be more questions
24:08about this Mercosur later , but we will
24:10clarify that as we go , and my dear
24:12friends , of course , as always , I've
24:14lost the questions . Good evening . Good
24:19evening . Welcome . I welcome everyone
24:21very warmly . Good evening . Mr. Janek .
24:25Are honesty and truthfulness in Polish
24:27politics an advantage or a disadvantage
24:29? Generally , honesty and truthfulness
24:36are an advantage and and in politics in
24:47politics , it certainly looks a little
24:49different . Yes . Certainly , um certainly
24:55each side highlights its arguments more
24:58, whether in criticizing or praising a
25:00program . However , um however remember ,
25:07everyone , that things always look a bit
25:10different now . Today , every recipient
25:12of information can verify that
25:14information . So if someone misleads or
25:19tries to manipulate reality , everything
25:21can be verified , everything can be
25:23checked , and that information can be
25:25clarified . The problem is of a
25:29different nature . We live today in such
25:31a way , we are so information reaches us
25:36from so many sides that we are simply
25:38unable , in this flood of information
25:40coming at us , to confront or verify all
25:43of it . That is why I encourage you ,
25:49above all , to be critical of all
25:51politicians and of what they say and
25:53present , and to have your own trusted
25:55journalists or trusted news outlets
25:57that you trust . I won't be advertising
26:02anyone or anything here . I have my own ,
26:06for various topics , I have my own — I
26:08wanted to say — experts that I follow
26:10and observe , but I also have my own
26:13news services that I simply trust and .
26:17Even if I don't have trust , I think I
26:19have reached a point where I am able to
26:21critically evaluate the material
26:23provided to me , or I am able to quickly
26:25cross-check it with the source material
26:27. And I think I encourage you all to be
26:31very critical of the information that
26:32appears in the media space and in the
26:34public space . Good evening . Good
26:37evening . Mr. Grzegorz Zieleziński , I
26:45believe . Alright . I hope you will not
26:47lack determination . I am keeping my
26:49fingers crossed for you and I support
26:50you . Thank you as well . Every such word
26:52of support is very , very needed .
26:57Because , as all of us public figures ,
26:59but especially public figures who deal
27:02with politics , where these political
27:04views are constantly evaluated and
27:06criticized , we encounter a very , very
27:08large wave of hate and criticism , or
27:14never-ending criticism . Of course , it
27:16is often criticism that has no
27:18justification at all , but people
27:20criticize just to criticize because
27:22that's how it's done , so I appreciate
27:24every such word of support even more .
27:31Um , Mr. Rememberember , in the face of a
27:34demographic catastrophe , can we invite
27:36pretty Asian women to Poland ? I already
27:38have a girlfriend from Asia , but many
27:40Poles would like that too . Um , I
27:45encourage you here to track down a
27:47debate we organized in the Sejm
27:49regarding the demographic crisis and
27:51demographic policy . It was a debate and
27:57a quite large conference organized by
27:59Deputy Speaker Krzysztof Bosak . So , I
28:03refer you to that material and to that
28:05debate that took place back then in the
28:07Sejm . I see here a quite large
28:20discussion has broken out regarding
28:22demographic policy . Maybe those in
28:32power will think about the return of
28:33Poles from abroad . We have always
28:37called for it in our program or the
28:39programs we have prepared , and we
28:41wanted Poles to simply return here to
28:43Poland , and this trend is happening to
28:45a limited extent . That is , Poles
28:48appreciate living in their homeland ,
28:50they see what the countries of Western
28:52Europe look like . I certainly encourage
28:57people to return to Poland , to build
28:59their future here , and to build our
29:01economy here . I know that it is
29:06difficult in Poland , I know that there
29:08are many hardships in Poland , but it is
29:10our duty , it is the duty of all of us
29:12to simply care for the future of our
29:14homeland . And I think a form of that
29:21care is also living here and working
29:23for our homeland , whatever it looks
29:25like , whether it is gainful employment ,
29:27professional work , but also just being
29:29here and building our Polish community
29:31in our homeland , in our country . So I
29:36certainly very , very much encourage , of
29:38course I understand many Poles who
29:40found themselves in various life
29:42situations , often these departures
29:44simply . Uh that that wasn't a matter of
29:47choice , but a matter of uh the life
29:49situation they found themselves in and
29:51and I am not criticizing that , it just
29:53simply was that way . Here someone , Mr.
30:05Pop Chanil Boy of course asks about
30:07this , can't it be that Spain takes
30:09immigrants , they must stay in Spain ,
30:11some procedures ? Well , not exactly .
30:14Meaning if someone has legal residency
30:16in a European Union country , then the
30:18principle of free , free , free movement
30:20applies to them . What's more , dear
30:25friends , Spain is a beneficiary state
30:27under the migration pact , so if they
30:29continue to pursue such an open-door
30:31policy and a policy of letting in
30:33migrants who arrive here illegally ,
30:35then in a moment it may turn out that
30:37as part of relocation , i.e. , the
30:39mandatory solidarity mechanism , these
30:41immigrants will be shifted to member
30:43states , for example in our region , for
30:46example to Poland , under the migration
30:48pact that is in force in the European
30:50Union , because someone here also asked
30:52about this migration policy . Well , the
30:57year 2015 . Surely you remember that
31:00whole debate that was going on here in
31:02Poland regarding , regarding the
31:03relocation of immigrants in the
31:05European Union . 10 years later , in the
31:08immigration pact , it's no longer called
31:11relocation , it's called a solidarity
31:13mechanism . A solidarity mechanism ,
31:17meaning a mechanism m ... of course it
31:19sounds nicer , but in short , it's about
31:21a different name for relocation and a
31:23different way of solving this migration
31:25crisis , specifically in the form of
31:27relocation or this very migration tax .
31:31I call it a migration tax . Because what
31:34else to call a financial obligation
31:36resulting from the migration pact ,
31:38which a member state can be covered by
31:40under the migration pact ? Mhm . Welcome ,
31:47welcome . Good evening . The Podlasie
31:58Opera should collect money on a
31:59fundraiser , rather than selling itself
32:02for silver coins . Well , first of all ,
32:05in no way should the Ministry of
32:07Culture reject an application because
32:09of the position , the position of the
32:15regional assembly and that's it . And
32:18that is simply what we will certainly
32:20be dealing with in the coming years ,
32:22well , in the coming years , this is just
32:24how the European Union's budgetary
32:25policy will look . It is written into
32:28the next multiannual perspective . It is
32:30written into the next multiannual
32:32financial framework , that is exactly
32:34this conditionality , money for the rule
32:36of law . And the rule of law is , among
32:39other things , the observance of
32:41European values , of course European
32:43values as defined by the European
32:45Commission itself , which we or a large
32:48part of our Polish society do not
32:50necessarily have to perceive as
32:51European values or evaluate in such a
32:54way . Gra URP Spain grants citizenship
33:01after five years , Italy after 10 and
33:03with difficulty . Tighter policies
33:06regarding the granting of citizenship
33:08should also take place in Poland . We
33:11have submitted amendments on this
33:12matter , but these amendments ,
33:14unfortunately , have never passed . Okay .
33:35Someone here , Mr. Tomek , wants to know
33:38more about SAFE . I understand that it
33:40probably refers to SAFE , meaning that
33:42regulation and the subsequent loan .
33:45Perhaps you are aware , perhaps not .
33:47Well , yesterday the European Commission
33:50sent the text of this loan agreement to
33:52member states , including Poland , so we
33:54are getting closer and closer to
33:55signing this loan agreement . I am also
33:59returning from a debate in which this
34:01topic , of course SAFE , came up , where
34:03once again , well , my political
34:05environment is being very strongly
34:07attacked for our criticism of the SAFE
34:09regulation . And if anyone here has
34:13appeared recently or hasn't been
34:15following all of this quite closely : my
34:17colleagues and I have been criticizing
34:19the SAFE regulation since last year ,
34:21from the moment this idea appeared ,
34:22from the moment this legislative
34:24proposal appeared , and when this
34:26regulation was adopted by the Council
34:28of the European Union . Of course , with
34:31a breach of procedures and the use of
34:33an incorrect legal basis . This case has
34:35been appealed ; this regulation has been
34:37challenged at the Court of Justice of
34:39the European Union . However , anyone who
34:43honestly reads this regulation will
34:45notice that there are traps there and
34:47various types of conditions to meet ,
34:49eligibility requirements to fulfill . I
34:52have great doubts whether the Polish
34:54government , when submitting this
34:56application at the end of November last
34:58year , had all of this properly
34:59calculated and checked . We are talking
35:02about gigantic sums of money . This is
35:04gigantic money . This is a gigantic
35:06financial obligation for Poland for the
35:09next , for the next , for the next
35:10decades . I am not certain whether this
35:14entire mechanism will strengthen Polish
35:16security , because that is the
35:18fundamental question we should be
35:19asking ourselves . Will the SAFE
35:22mechanism strengthen Polish security ?
35:24It turns out now that , well , I deeply
35:26regret that this debate regarding SAFE
35:28only started a few weeks ago , and not
35:30at the moment when Poland was
35:32submitting its application for these
35:34funds . That is 44 billion euros . That
35:38is gigantic money . I don't know why no
35:42one in parliament discussed this at all
35:45, why there was no debate , why , in fact
35:47, the Polish people were presented with
35:49such a government decision , and we are
35:51talking about a very large financial
35:53obligation that is imposed on Poland ,
35:55which will be imposed on Poland after
35:57signing this loan agreement . We are
36:00talking about money that does not
36:01necessarily have to strengthen Polish
36:03security . We are talking about
36:04conditions that must be met . I have
36:06repeated this many times and I probably
36:08won't repeat it here again about those
36:10independent purchases , but take a look
36:12at what is happening in the Romanian
36:16SAFE . I mean , the defense minister ,
36:19Minister Miruta , said , although I'm not
36:21sure if I've mispronounced the name now
36:23, I don't want to , I don't want to , I
36:25don't want to mislead you , but after so
36:27many hours I just have to think twice
36:29so as not to get anything wrong . In any
36:33case , the Romanian defense minister
36:35said that they had preliminary contract
36:42agreements , and then it turned out that
36:45when they arrived to sign the actual
36:46agreement with the supplier , the price
36:48of the goods ordered by Romania had
36:50increased by 30 % , which means they can
36:52buy less of those goods . And Miruta , if
36:58I remember his name correctly now , the
37:00Romanian defense minister , said he does
37:02not agree to this and will not sign
37:04such a contract . So Romania found
37:06itself in a very difficult position ,
37:08because this was supposed to be a
37:09purchase under those independent
37:11agreements . And these independent
37:13agreements can only be concluded until
37:15the end of May , which puts Romania in a
37:17difficult spot , because it is hard to
37:19find an entity within the next four or
37:21five weeks to fill this gap in the
37:23entire independent procurement program .
37:26So we should really draw conclusions
37:27from what happened to Romania . This was
37:31also foreseeable , that since there will
37:33be such large arms purchases in Europe ,
37:35then naturally these companies will
37:37also be raising their prices . On the
37:39other hand , there is the example of
37:40Polish ammunition , which withdrew from
37:42deliveries under the SAFE program ,
37:44because it does not meet the
37:45eligibility requirement regarding
37:47ammunition certificates , which takes 2
37:49years , while this must be done much
37:51faster . This money , all these 180
37:53billion euros , excuse me , 180 billion
37:56zlotys , must be spent by 2030 . The
38:00deadlines that are in this , the
38:01reliance on the commission's
38:03decision-making , the components , 65 % of
38:06components in the entire supply chain
38:08must be , must be European . Is this
38:11properly calculated in every single
38:13component and properly calculated in
38:15the entire final product ? And I don't
38:17know that . I don't know that , but
38:21unfortunately I expect that the Polish
38:23government doesn't know it either , and
38:25I very much regret that instead of a
38:27real debate , the Prime Minister called
38:29all critics of the SAFE regulation
38:31blockheads , that we here are playing
38:36with Polish security . That is what I
38:38heard today from a representative of
38:39the Civic Coalition , that we are
38:41playing with Polish security . Ladies
38:43and gentlemen , it is my duty to inform
38:46you about what is in this regulation ,
38:48especially since it is an EU regulation
38:50, where we are simply closer to all
38:52these regulations , and to show you
38:54various types of risks so that you are
38:56fully aware . I also regret that there
39:01was no debate regarding this whole SAFE
39:03regulation and these security
39:04expenditures . Just as I lamented the
39:08regulation , er , the entire recovery
39:11fund from 2020 , ratified by the Polish
39:14Sejm in 2021 . Back then , there was no
39:17major debate either , and after a few
39:19years , you can see what this whole
39:21Recovery Fund and the RRF look like .
39:25Starting from what the money was spent
39:27on , ending with what milestones had to
39:29be achieved , and adding to that the
39:31fact that Poland withdrew from part of
39:33those loans because it was unable to
39:34spend that money . So it would be really
39:41, really good if we approached all
39:43these problems and all these challenges
39:46with logic , criticism , and a lack of
39:48naivety . Because this naivety on the
39:52part of the ruling coalition simply
39:55terrifies me very , very much . This
39:57dismissive approach of theirs to these ,
39:59to these topics . These are huge sums of
40:02money , these are huge obligations ,
40:05these are primarily obligations of the
40:07Poles , and of course , Poland's security
40:09is a priority , but it all must be done
40:11in accordance with common sense , logic ,
40:14and the best possible solution . However
40:17, if it is not debated , then I do not
40:19know if it will be , if it will be the
40:21best solution . And also in this ASAP
40:23regulation , I know I've rambled on , I'm
40:25moving on to questions now . And one
40:27more thing , conditionality , that is ,
40:29money for the rule of law . It could
40:31really be that in 2027 the government
40:33in Poland changes and the Commission
40:35comes and says : " No , we are not paying
40:37you money because there is no rule of
40:39law in Poland . " And that's it . So I
40:44leave you with this whole reflection . I
40:46believe that the Polish government is
40:49approaching these obligations resulting
40:51from the ASAP regulation with great
40:53naivety . I often have the feeling ,
40:56participating in these various debates ,
40:59that there is no real , real , real
41:01debate regarding the details of this
41:03regulation , the details of this
41:05financing . Everyone is talking about
41:09how this is the cheapest , the cheapest
41:11money that was on the table . Perhaps it
41:15should have been laid out differently ,
41:16perhaps they should have applied for
41:18smaller amounts ; there are member
41:19states that did not apply for this ASAP
41:21money at all , and they will be the
41:23beneficiaries , of course . These are the
41:27countries that have the most developed
41:29defense industries in the European
41:30Union . I'll end here and not prolong it
41:33so as not to bore you . Someone here
41:43writes : " If the Podlaskie Voivodeship
41:44agrees to the migration pact , the
41:46consequences will cost much more than
41:48the modernization of the stage at the
41:50Podlasie Opera . " Exactly . Hail to Great
41:52Poland . Welcome . I see that Mr. Pop
41:57Channel Boy here is not giving up . When
41:59Tusk says what time it is , one has to
42:01check their watch to be sure he isn't
42:03lying . This is also a very good , very
42:09good comment . They say fuel prices are
42:11up , but I always just fill up for a
42:13hundred and I couldn't care less .
42:15That's a good approach . Have you looked
42:22into the increase of students in
42:23so-called cloud schools , meaning online
42:25schools ? Students don't have to live in
42:28Poland , but they get the 800 plus
42:30benefit because school attendance is
42:32shown . No , I'm not familiar with that
42:37topic , but I'm noting it down and I
42:38will look into it , or have my
42:40colleagues on the education committee
42:42look into how that looks . in must . Mhm .
42:54Ms. Anna , it's Friday night , and you're
42:56doing a live stream . Where did the idea
42:58for this day come from ? I'll explain .
43:02My associates think Friday is the best
43:04day for live streams , and from my
43:05perspective , it’s also a day for
43:07summarizing the week and what happened .
43:11And I’ll be honest with you , so much
43:13happens every week that I would
43:14probably have to spend the whole time
43:16just commenting on the most important
43:18points . However , we try to comment on
43:20these things in our " merytobryłka "
43:22segments . And I also often comment on
43:24these current political affairs in
43:25interviews . I mean , this week there was
43:29the resignation of Sławomir
43:30Cenckiewicz from the position of head
43:32of the BBN , but also other political
43:34events that took place . After all , we
43:38have the huge debate regarding
43:40Hennig-Kloska and the vote of no
43:42confidence . And the endless conflicts
43:45in PiS and so on and so on . So the day
43:48and the time result from the fact that
43:50it is a summary of the week , and my
43:52associates suggested this day . Good
43:55evening . Good evening . M An invitation
44:05here to a march at Three Crosses Square
44:07. I don’t know about the march , so I
44:10won’t comment on it . Ms. Anna Bryłka
44:14K from the women's ... Oh dear , I’m not
44:16reading any further . Mr. Janek , what do
44:44you think about the rather negative
44:45phenomenon where the number of children
44:47abandoned in hospitals is
44:48systematically growing , even though
44:50fewer children are being born overall ?
44:52I’m not familiar with that , I mean I
44:54haven’t looked into it , I don’t
44:55know anything about such a phenomenon ,
44:57but I will make a note of it to find
44:59out how it actually looks and what is
45:01going on . Warka wild berry . A very good
45:04initiative to keep talking to Poles
45:05until it gets through . What is
45:07happening in this entire madness called
45:09the Union in name only ? Ladies and
45:10gentlemen , the sheer amount of
45:14legislation in the European Union also
45:17scares me as an MEP . It is very hard
45:20for us to get a handle on all of this
45:22because we have a relatively small
45:23delegation in the European Parliament .
45:25I don't have 20 MEPs . Uh , I don't have
45:28the possibility to have 20 MEPs that I
45:30can distribute among different
45:31committees so they can , through their
45:33work , provide me with feedback on how
45:35things look in their committees , what
45:37they are working on , and what I should
45:39pay attention to . So , within our
45:42limited and small delegation in the
45:44European Parliament , we try to do as
45:46much as possible , at least to explain
45:48and discuss here for you the issues
45:50that , from my perspective , are the most
45:53priority for Poland . However , I am also
45:57not able to read , learn about , explain ,
45:59and analyze all of these things . It is
46:02simply physically , physically
46:04impossible . I only do the things that I
46:06consider the highest priority , the most
46:08important . So please be aware that
46:11there is much , much , much more going on
46:13there . But we have limited resources ,
46:16primarily staffing resources for
46:17representation in various committees ,
46:20to keep track of it all on an ongoing
46:22basis . And I also believe that the
46:24European Union is simply focusing us on
46:26so many specific things that one can
46:28easily lose sight of what is most
46:30important in all of this , namely the
46:32big picture , this whole juggernaut .
46:34There really is no need for such
46:35extensive legislation , but the fact
46:37that we are being drawn into ,
46:38integrated into this entire system ,
46:40results in us not focusing on these ,
46:41these important things . We are trying
46:43to do what is in our power , but it is
46:45super difficult . What does my colleague
47:00, the vice-president , think about the
47:02Ministry of Health's regulation from
47:03'26 , which wants to mandate schools and
47:05kindergartens to have one completely
47:07vegan dinner per week , two
47:09vegetable-based soups , and vegan dishes
47:10? This is the first time I'm hearing
47:12about this regulation . That probably
47:14stems from the fact that I am more
47:16involved in this EU legislation , so I
47:18am not up to date with all these , all
47:20these matters . But it is , it is
47:26shocking , shocking information ,
47:28surprising , so I encourage you to pass
47:30this information , first and foremost ,
47:32to our domestic MP who works in the
47:34Ministry of Health , in the Health
47:36Committee in Parliament , so they can
47:38take a good look at this issue . Mr.
47:51Zimowak . It seems a bit illogical . The
47:53Left is giving them voting rights ,
47:55heading toward existing suicide . This
47:57seems to have a hidden agenda , as if
47:58someone were paying for it . It's like
48:00this , the Left is itself ... The Left is
48:05destroying itself by bringing in
48:07migrants , who , as we know , have a
48:09certain attitude toward their
48:11postulates , toward their program
48:12postulates . So yes , this is , this is a
48:15sort of ... short-term ... short-term
48:23approach of the Left to this matter .
48:36Good evening , Ms. Anna . A little joke
48:38for Friday . Do you set the thumbnails
48:39for your YouTube shorts yourself ? Is it
48:41done out of spite ? Yes , the algorithm
48:43does it . It always puts in some funny
48:45expression . I don't do it , so it's
48:47probably the algorithm . What percentage
48:51of GDP is currently being transferred
48:53to the EU budget ? Can this percentage
48:54change ? At this moment , nothing from
48:57ETS is being transferred to the Union's
48:59budget ; there is an idea that in the
49:01next perspective , if I recall correctly
49:04, 25 % of ETS revenue would go to the EU
49:06budget . Of course , Poland will be one
49:08of the largest beneficiaries — or
49:10rather , payers — of this tax to the
49:12European Union , to the EU budget . Mhm .
49:35A question about " Stop Killing Games . "
49:37I don't know , I don't know , I'm not
49:39familiar with that . I'm not familiar
49:41with this , I don't know this initiative
49:42. I vaguely recall something , it rings
49:45a bell , but , but , but I don't remember .
49:48I would simply have to find out and
49:50check . Perhaps my colleagues who are
49:52more involved in such topics are
49:53familiar with it . A question about the
49:59political system . Are you in favor of
50:01merging the functions of president and
50:03prime minister into one , meaning the
50:05head of government is also the
50:06president who forms the government and
50:08represents the state ? Well , we are
50:10generally in favor of carrying out a
50:12constitutional reform in Poland ,
50:13because this system is neither
50:15presidential nor chancellor-based . It
50:17is a mixed , mixed system , and it would
50:20certainly be worth it to properly
50:24organize it . Mm . Jarok . How do you
50:27assess the conspiracy theories
50:29regarding the death of the late MP
50:30Litewka ? Well , ladies and gentlemen , a
50:34terrible , terrible tragedy has occurred
50:37. And I think we should treat all these
50:40theories that are appearing with great
50:41caution . The prosecutor's office is
50:44clarifying the matter . I was actually
50:48in the media when our debate was
50:50interrupted to broadcast a press
50:52conference regarding yesterday's event
50:54and the tragic death of MP Litewka . So
51:00I simply encourage you to follow the
51:02information that appears officially ,
51:04which is provided officially by the
51:06prosecutor's office and the police ,
51:08with great care . Please do not spread
51:13such information , because we don't
51:15fully know what happened there , how the
51:17accident looked , or how , how , how it
51:19took place . So I simply refer you here
51:23to official , official statements . Oh my
51:30. And , of course , the questions jumped
51:32on me , as always , ladies and gentlemen .
51:48Just , just , just , just , just a second .
51:52Hm , just a moment . Ladies and gentlemen
51:55, I have to go back here , and I'm
51:56coming right back . Mmm . We have little
52:08time left , so I will try to answer as
52:10many questions here as possible as
52:12quickly as I can . Wouldn't it be better
52:22to advocate for the removal of EU
52:23restrictions regarding food production ?
52:25Well , either one way or the other , just
52:28as I said before . Here I have a tough
52:32question . When will Confederation take
52:34power in Poland ? When the Poles decide
52:36so . When the Poles decide so . Oh ,
52:38that's good , that's how the answer
52:40should sound . Yes , someone here is
53:01writing about the caliphate . Well , that
53:03is the direction , as Mr. Ryszard writes
53:05, that Western European countries are
53:07heading in . Yes , that is to say , a
53:09French caliphate , a German caliphate .
53:14Mhm , generational change . Are you
53:19planning a tour of Poland for meetings
53:21with voters ? Yes , I am planning one . We
53:26will be in the Silesian Voivodeship . We
53:31will be in the Lower Silesian
53:33Voivodeship in May , and in West
53:35Pomerania in June or July . I would have
53:43to look further into the calendar to
53:44map it all out , but for sure there are
53:46events organized in May and June for
53:48Silesia and Lower Silesia . You are
54:07asking about the pesticides in
54:10agricultural products from Ukraine and
54:12Mercosur . Is there any understanding in
54:14the parliament at all that agriculture
54:15is our food security , and not an
54:17ideology ? Uh , dear ladies and gentlemen
54:20, this is not about agriculture , it is
54:22always about the interests of the
54:24largest countries in the European Union
54:26and , of course , the strongest country
54:28in the European Union , which simply
54:30implements its own policy within the EU
54:33at the expense of other member states .
54:36And please have no illusions about that
54:38. The longer we work in the European
54:44Parliament and observe this , the more
54:46we see at various levels how
54:47influential the states of the old Union
54:49are in decision-making and how the
54:51states of the new Union — those that
54:53joined later — have very limited
54:55influence and access to the most
54:57decisive positions . I also believe this
55:03is a neglect on the part of Poland , our
55:05political class , which did not
55:07sufficiently secure these areas at the
55:09European Union level . Today we are
55:11simply underrepresented , so we lack
55:13advocates for the Polish national
55:15interest within the European Union , and
55:18because of this , we lose out on many
55:20policies . Here is a question about Mr.
55:33Rafał Piech as the leader of PJJ , the
55:37gentleman from Siemianowice Śląskie .
55:39I don't know Mr. Rafał , so I won't
55:41comment on that . We had cooperation
55:43with PJJ in 2024 when running in the
55:46European Parliament elections , so we
55:48have those relations . However , I simply
55:51do not know Mr. Rafał himself , so I do
55:53not want to comment here . Mr. Sławek
55:55asks : cereal or milk first ? Only milk .
55:58That's how I will answer . No , no , I
56:00don't eat cereal . Where is this list of
56:03European values ? A very good question ,
56:06Mr. Marcin . Well , this is a list that
56:09is defined every single time by the
56:11European Commission itself . Someone
56:19here , Mr. Huragan , listed these values ,
56:22these EU values . Specifically , by
56:32spending that percentage of GDP on
56:34armaments . Uh , this is actually one
56:36more topic that I will touch upon at
56:38the end . Uh , we are spending on Polish
56:41defense comparable amounts to the
56:43amount that Israel spends . Israel is
56:46currently waging a war . We are already
56:50spending a lot , um , on industries , on
56:52our entire security policy , and on
56:55defense . Um , and the question is , um ,
56:59whether all of this is , um , being spent
57:01wisely , how is it that 20 billion
57:04zlotys remain unspent in the Armed
57:06Forces Support Fund ? That means , well ,
57:09some money is there . I just understand
57:11that there is flawed , flawed , flawed
57:13management here . Okay . Mr. Pop Channel
57:29is starting , starting his own YouTube
57:32channel . I wish him luck . Now , a
57:38question about MP Krystian Kamiński .
57:40That is a question for the gentleman
57:42himself , for Krystian Kamiński .
57:44We’ve known each other here for years
57:46. Will , will , will , and Ewa , too ? Will
57:49she be running here for the national
57:50parliament , or will Krystian also be
57:52running for the national parliament ?
57:55Well , those decisions will likely only
57:57be made in '27 , next year . Here , Mr.
58:03Huragan . Very valid points regarding
58:05Ukraine and the arms industry . Mr.
58:13Devas is also quite right in writing
58:15about those loans . It’s not naivety .
58:22Everything was thought out from
58:24beginning to end . Honestly speaking ,
58:27here is this Mr. Latarnik , or someone
58:29under that name . In my opinion , if you
58:34were to listen to some of these
58:36politicians , you would believe it is
58:38also naivety . And I think that's it for
58:54the questions , though of course , more
58:56live streams will follow . What do you
58:59think about the deposit-refund system ?
59:01I am very , very critical of the
59:03introduced deposit-refund system .
59:05Really . Minister Hennig-Kloska should
59:09be dismissed . The evidence and
59:14information surfacing regarding the
59:16implementation of the deposit-refund
59:17system — about the Ministry of Climate
59:19using studies from companies that
59:21profit from this system , and that
59:23unclaimed deposit money from Poles goes
59:25to companies that should be improving
59:27the system . But why would they improve
59:31the system ? If they don't improve it ,
59:33then more money will continue to flow
59:35to those companies . Really , Poles are
59:38currently paying double . For trash —
59:41that is , through the deposit system and
59:44the waste collection system , that is ,
59:46the whole waste management policy .
59:50Realize that trash collection has also
59:52become more expensive now , so I believe
59:55it is one big , um , maybe a scam . Well ,
1:00:02it is really exposing Poles to more ,
1:00:05more additional costs , and of course ,
1:00:07all these issues arising in this entire
1:00:09deposit system should , first and
1:00:11foremost , be grounds for the minister
1:00:13to be dismissed , not even through a
1:00:15vote of no confidence in the Sejm , but
1:00:18primarily by the Prime Minister . Dear
1:00:21friends , we are finishing for today .
1:00:23It’s 9:30 PM , I won't hold you any
1:00:25longer ; I encourage you to ask
1:00:27questions in future live streams . I
1:00:28encourage you to share this material .
1:00:30Next week there is a session in
1:00:32Strasbourg . We have a four-day plenary
1:00:34session . There will probably be a lot
1:00:36going on in Strasbourg itself as well .
1:00:40In the meantime , I wish you a good ,
1:00:42good evening and see you in the next ,
1:00:44in the next videos .