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How would a Disney-Fox merger affect what we watch?

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0:00WOODRUFF: A giant deal today in the world of entertainment.

0:03The Disney Kingdom is on the verge of getting a lot larger, buying a huge chunk of Rupert

0:09Murdoch's 21st Century Fox for $52 billion.

0:14That includes film and television studios.

0:17Hari Sreenivasan is in our New York studios about what it could mean.

0:20(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

0:21HARI SREENIVASAN, PBS NEWSHOUR CORRESPONDENT: Some of the biggest franchises in the business,

0:24Marvel Superheroes, the "Star Wars" films and Pixar blockbusters -- all would now be

0:30under the Disney roof.

0:31And that may signal some big breaks with Netflix, Amazon and others.

0:35This all is happening on the same day that the FCC voted three to two along party lines

0:40to end so-called net neutrality.

0:42But many experts say companies will now be able to create a kind of fast lane on the

0:46web for the traffic and content they want you to choose or that you're willing to pay

0:50a higher rate for.

0:52NPR’s David Folkenflik joins me now.

0:54So, first of all, what does Disney want with Fox?

0:56DAVID FOLKENFLIK, NPR: Disney right now is looking at a big, big winter coming, and it's

1:01in the form of Netflix, it's in the form of Amazon, and it's even probably going to be

1:04in the form of Apple.

1:05These guys are going to be able to spend billions of dollars a year in creating content that

1:09they can give to digital consumers on demand.

1:12And so, Disney already the biggest conventional Hollywood Studio says let's ramp up.

1:16Let's get the TV studios at Fox.

1:18Let's get the movie studios at Fox.

1:20Let's get their back catalogs.

1:21Let’s get their executives who have the know-how in Los Angeles and let's really do

1:24that.

1:25Then they're interested in international distribution, major European satellite provider, Sky, is

1:3140 percent controlled by Fox and the Murdochs.

1:34They’ll get that.

1:35In fact, the Murdochs are in the process of trying to take over that whole company.

1:37SREENIVASAN: So, there are reports that the president spoke to Rupert Murdoch.

1:40They’ve been friends for a long time.

1:41They spoke yesterday.

1:42This deal is announced today.

1:44Any concerns?

1:45FOLKENFLIK: Well, the real interest, of course, is Trump's concern.

1:48The president has forged an alliance with Rupert Murdoch, who has been the acting and

1:54leading CEO of the Fox network since they tossed out the founder over sexual harassment

1:58concerns over 18 months ago.

2:01And what Trump's real concern is somehow Rupert wouldn't be controlling Fox News, that he

2:04wouldn't be keeping Fox News.

2:06He’s saying, hey, is that going to stick around?

2:07And I think that’s the source of concern because Fox News in some way has served not

2:11only as a cheerleader but an enforcer and as a message creator for the president and

2:17for those close to him.

2:19It's been a closed loop for him and it’s been a vital part of him holding to that base

2:23even as controversy swirls and surrounds that White House.

2:25SREENIVASAN: What happens to general viewers like us, so to speak?

2:30Are there going to be dinks in how we get these movies and where we get them from, especially

2:35if we're just watching at home?

2:37FOLKENFLIK: Right.

2:38So, there's a real interesting thing here.

2:39You would expect -- and I certainly do expect -- federal regulators either at the FCC or

2:44in the antitrust division in the U.S. Justice Department to take a very close look at this.

2:48After all, this like with like.

2:50Disney and 21st Century Fox and Fox more generally have been real competitors for decades and

2:55they’re absorbing a lot of the folks they've competed with.

2:57This should have antitrust concerns.

3:00At the same time, the question is, if they're competing with streaming forces, will this

3:04provide an extra competitor in the streaming realm?

3:08Disney already announced it intended to have a major streaming service for its entertainment

3:12offerings and for a separate one for sports offerings, with certain ESPN offerings on

3:17there.

3:18Having some Fox regional sports elements to supplant, to fuse that in there, could help.

3:25You could have additional Fox viewing things on the entertainment streaming service.

3:29Could this be more of a competition for Amazon and Apple and Netflix?

3:34That could be a benefit to the consumers.

3:36What I don't think is somehow it's all going to be cheaper for us.

3:39I just think there are going to be other elements that could be viable.

3:43Disney wants to survive.

3:44SREENIVASAN: This is happening on the same day that the FCC changes these rules on net

3:49neutrality.

3:50A lot of people, you know, fighting against these changes that are happening today.

3:55Is this the kind of consolidation that the people who didn't want these changes to happen

3:59are worried about, that there's going to be so much power in the hands of a new Disney,

4:04if they're also a streaming competitor, they can decide, well, guess what?

4:07You get to have this Disney movie at a great rate of speed, versus what I -- you know,

4:12how I distribute this elsewhere?

4:14FOLKENFLIK: Well, I mean, I think we have to think about the enormous consolidation

4:17that's happening all over the technical landscape, as well as the content landscape.

4:22And in some ways, these moments are blurring.

4:25You know, Netflix are creators.

4:26They're going to spend, I think, $8 billion next year in content, not just a platform

4:30for viewing other content.

4:31Disney wants to get more into the platform business.

4:34I think you’ve also see -- you've seen already extraordinary consolidation in those people

4:38who provide Internet service.

4:40I mean, I think you're looking at Comcast.

4:43You're looking at Spectrum, which absorbed the old Time Warner and Charter.

4:48And you're looking, also, at AT&T and Verizon is in that mix as well.

4:52You're looking a very small number of companies controlling both the content information that

4:58is created and the ways in which we consume it.

5:00So, it's hard at certain points if you're looking at one group of titans to root for

5:04that group, and it's hard to root for another group of titans when you look at that.

5:07I do think there are questions about -- I mean, rarely does it seem to me that the consumers

5:11are better of.

5:12SREENIVASAN: NPR's David Folkenflik, thanks so much for joining us.

5:14FOLKENFLIK: You bet.

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