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0:04[music]

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0:18Hello everyone. I welcome you once again

0:20to my NPTL course introduction to

0:22medical humanities. Now before we begin

0:25today, let us take one moment to think

0:28who is our favorite doctor because I am

0:31going to talk about doctor patient

0:33relationship and with that respect I am

0:36going to take up two films that I have

0:38chosen for analysis. The title of my

0:40presentation today is trusting doctors

0:43and empathizing with patients. And while

0:46we go through the at least theoretical

0:48framework of what I am going to speak,

0:50you think about what is the quality that

0:53you like in the doctor you have chosen

0:55as your favorite.

0:57Quick overview. I am going to talk about

1:01the dual pillar of trust and empathy in

1:05clinical encounters. Explore the empathy

1:08gap.

1:09Talk about how

1:12important it is to emphasize the

1:14narrative around patients. Take up

1:17Munabhai MBBS and Dr. G as our case

1:20study and follow it up with the final

1:23theoretical model in which cinema

1:26education is a pedagogical catalyst.

1:30Let us begin with the first theoretical

1:32model that we choose in which we talk

1:35about the empathetic nature of clinical

1:38trust. Now within the spectrum of

1:42patient doctor relationship, we find

1:45that trust is a quotient which cannot be

1:49compromised with. And why is it that?

1:52Because when we think about health and

1:54its different markers,

1:57physical, mental, emotional,

2:00in front of a doctor, all this lays bare

2:04and anything, any space that requires

2:08this kind of uh vulnerability of

2:12just opening up, you need extreme trust.

2:17So how does that build? So the first

2:20point that I would like to make in this

2:22regard is on your screen consensual bond

2:25of doctor patient relationship. Now the

2:28moment you walk into the clinic of a

2:31doctor, you walk into the OPD of a

2:34doctor, there is certain amount of

2:38leap of trust you give and vice versa is

2:43also true. In the absence of trust,

2:47there is no diagnosis happening. There

2:49is no healing possible. And therefore,

2:52the expectations of patients of

2:54receiving

2:57any kind of prescription from the doctor

3:00has also a little bit of alignment with

3:04the trust quotient. So that is something

3:08we begin with. The second point that I

3:10want to make here is that of the

3:13dimensions of trust. Quinnho makes this

3:16uh point. Uh she surveyed over 3,000

3:20patients. I'm sorry that is 3,000 and

3:23not 300. Uh so three she surveyed over

3:263,000 patients and found two qualities

3:30that all of them said are something they

3:34are looking for in their doctors.

3:36Benevolence and competence. So

3:39competence to make the diagnosis if I

3:42can broadly speak and benevolence to be

3:45kind because the moment somebody is

3:49unwell they are looking for an

3:52empathetic

3:54gaze.

3:56The third point here is biocschosocial

3:59diet. Now this is a shift shift from

4:04what? shift from caveat emper to credate

4:08enter. Now caveat empter is let the

4:12buyer be aware. So you are aware of that

4:16situation what it is like you know that

4:19but credit emptor says let the buyer

4:22believe or have trust. So same space

4:26with different kind of meaning will

4:28generate different kind of result and

4:30that is why it's not just a physical

4:32space you are sharing but also a

4:35psychosocial space. So if you look at

4:37this word it has three words into it. It

4:40has biology, it has psychology and it

4:44also has the social aspect. So it's a

4:47permon word. It is a combination kind of

4:49a word which has been taken up by

4:51Everett Hughes. You can read more about

4:53it in the material that I have shared.

4:55The reciproxity of doctor patient

4:57relationship is also important to the

5:00construct of how empathetic nature and

5:03clinical trust builds. In this the trust

5:06becomes a dynamic bond and viewing the

5:10sick as a complete individual with

5:13feelings, desires and need becomes

5:16essential to how you can be empathetic.

5:21The second part that I would like to

5:25make in terms of theoretical framework

5:27is the aspect of clinical empathy. Now

5:29when you want to build the trust when

5:32there is a trust quotient that we are

5:34talking about empathy also clinically so

5:40to feel the pain to feel the misery all

5:44these aspects also come into play. So

5:47the first thing is cognitive versus

5:50effective. What does this mean? This

5:51means that it involves understanding

5:54patient experiences to communicate back

5:57to them. This is different from sympathy

6:00because it literally expects the

6:03clinician or the doctor to step into the

6:07shoes of the patient and

6:11think of or visualize the disease as the

6:14patient is feeling or suffering from. So

6:18the narrative of the patient here

6:20becomes central to how the clinical

6:24empathy gaze will happen. Additionally,

6:27it is intersubjectivity because when you

6:30think about a disease,

6:33there is a clearcut objectivity to it.

6:36So you can actually in in a very

6:39mathematical term you can make 2 + 2 is

6:42equal to four out of it. It's very

6:44quantifiable diagnosis oriented. But

6:47when you come to the subjectivity of the

6:50illness experience, this is vague

6:53because it involves individuals will

6:55respond to same disease in different

6:58kind of ways. Hence, customization

7:00becomes important and that is where you

7:03can think of clinical empathy to be

7:06playing an important role in deciding

7:09the doctor patient relationship. The

7:11third is the narrative competence and I

7:13have earlier spoken a lot about it. This

7:16is a skill better acknowledge, absorb,

7:19interpret and act on the stories of

7:21illness. So when a patient says that he

7:24or she is not feeling well or they are

7:27not feeling well, now that unwell has to

7:30be interpreted

7:32and for that different other narratives

7:34from the patient has to be listened by

7:37the doctor.

7:39Now the third uh and perhaps the final

7:41before we jump to making analysis of the

7:44films that we have chosen is the crisis

7:47of the devil in the third year. Now in

7:51the making of a medical doctor

7:55the process is through many experience

7:59and exposure of mortality,

8:03dead body, disease and so what happens

8:06that by the time they reach the third

8:08year they are getting very mechanized to

8:13the responses that will generate in

8:16their mind. So they talk about it in

8:19terms of empirical decline which says a

8:22significant drop in empathy scores of

8:24medical students transitioning into

8:27clinical rotations has been documented.

8:30So a study conducted suggests that by

8:32the time these students reach their

8:34third year there is a significant drop.

8:38So they start feeling less for the same

8:40situations that had affected them

8:43earlier. The second point you can take

8:46up is anatomy of clinical gaze in which

8:50Michelle Fuko describes this as

8:53objectifying perception that opens the

8:56patient to see a lesion rather than the

8:58soul to look beyond that kind of goes

9:01absent. So you just see the patient as a

9:05disease. You just want to identify that.

9:09Now there is sensory reliance which

9:11means that you rely a lot on

9:14investigative technologies. This

9:17replaces hands-on care leading to a

9:19state of institutionalized stability. So

9:23say for example somebody has fever you

9:25put a thermometer it indicates that's so

9:29even fever may vary that is something

9:32that is we are mentioning here.

9:37Now when you study these approaches you

9:41find these three theories

9:45important to what you will analyze. The

9:48first is simulation. What is the word

9:50simulation mean? The word simulation

9:53means imagination.

9:55So it's an imaginative act of

9:59visualizing oneself in that position. So

10:02what does the doctor do? The doctor

10:04imagines oneself in patient's position.

10:07Like I said, you put yourself into the

10:10person's shoes and then you find where

10:13it takes, where it pains, where it

10:14burns, all those things. There is a

10:16drawback as well because it fails in

10:19crossgender or cross-cultural encounters

10:23because the doctor merely projects their

10:25own limited view. In case of India,

10:29language also is important. So if I

10:32don't know Canada and somebody is

10:34speaking in Canada, how will I

10:35understand completely?

10:38So even linguistic barriers come in

10:41places which have like linguistic

10:43diversity but primarily uh uh you can

10:47broadly categorize it into crossgender

10:50and cross-cultural encounters. Uh so uh

10:53simulation uh does play a role but uh it

10:56is limited uh is how you approach

11:00empathizing with patients. Narrative

11:02humility that is another framework that

11:05Saiani Daz Gupta has coined this term

11:08and she talks about it in terms of how

11:12this

11:13particular phenomena destabilizes the

11:16doctor as expert hierarchy and

11:19constructs healing as a collaborative

11:22meaning making process.

11:25So the recuperation of a patient also

11:29depends on

11:31how and what kind of equation that

11:34person shares with the doctor. So

11:37healing and not cure depends on the

11:43collaborative effort of the patient and

11:45the doctor. There is interaction theory

11:48in which they mention Hardy mentions

11:51patient be understood through second

11:53person engagement which means that a

11:57space a community space that gets

12:00created where the doctor's medical

12:02expertise and the patients lived reality

12:06meet. Now

12:09for the same kind of disease how do two

12:12patients respond? One doctor can have

12:15one diagnosis but different kind of

12:18other suggestions depending on what the

12:21resources of the patients are. So

12:23something like that gets created in

12:25interaction theory.

12:27Let us come to the two texts that we

12:29have chosen. The first is Munabhai MBBS.

12:32I am sure everyone in this class has

12:34seen this film. If you haven't, it's a

12:37good watch. Please go ahead. Now this

12:40film came out in 2003. It's a Hindi

12:44language film. I reiterate, I am taking

12:46most of my cases from Hindi films

12:49because that is the language I know. But

12:51you are absolutely free to use the same

12:55framework and analyze a film that is in

13:00the language that you know. In fact, it

13:02will build your corpus and maybe uh in

13:05the feedback session you have something

13:07more to add to what I had to say. So in

13:10this film you find Murali Prasad Sharma

13:14better known as Munabhai and he's a

13:16gangster and some u I mean because he

13:20wants to show his father that he's a

13:22doctor and not a gangster he by some

13:24fraud he enters into uh MBBS college and

13:27in fact when he goes there he challenges

13:29the very uh cold mechanical

13:33medical system through empathy based

13:36care and human connection. something

13:39that we were talking about earlier. So

13:42there are more films that talk about uh

13:45empathy based care but this film is

13:49quite popular and quite central and

13:52brings it to focus without any other

13:55paraphernelia as to how empathy based

13:58care and human connection is central to

14:02the entire doctor patient relationship.

14:05The film portrays the central conflict

14:07as compassion centered care of Muna

14:10versus the dean who's there

14:12eminence-based medicine of the dean Dr.

14:15Astana. So the the conflict it is

14:18between two people Munabhai and Dr.

14:22Astana and they both come from different

14:25school of ideology. Here there is no

14:27degree here very eminent degree. Here

14:31you find empathy and here you find

14:33excellence. So what does doctor patient

14:36relationship theory say? There has to be

14:38a merger of emotion and excellence.

14:43Either of the two. No, there has to be a

14:46combination.

14:48Let us come to uh one episode that I can

14:51discuss from the film. It's the power of

14:53therapeutic touch. In fact, if you read

14:56many of these uh ancient uh texts, you

15:00will find that uh tactile traditions

15:02have been there in India.

15:06So the whole idea of touching a patient

15:10and finding what is the disease it's um

15:13it's very much there in sahas as well.

15:17So the first thing uh that we are going

15:19to see is two scenes here. If you see

15:22Munabhai is hugging Zahir who is a

15:25terminally ill cancer patient and uh

15:28there is Dr. Astana conversing about

15:30different views. So even here the touch

15:33is there. So what happens touch is used

15:37as the cornerstone of physicians

15:39reportire before technological

15:41mediation. So all these technologies

15:45came much later. In fact, there are many

15:48films that you will find in which

15:54this whole idea of touching and finding

15:58out or touching and making the diagnosis

16:02uh was there. So, it's a tactile

16:05tradition that we are we have followed.

16:08But when technology came, it just

16:11reduced

16:13and now almost gone the whole human

16:16touch over there. And that's why the

16:18magical hug or the jaduki juppy becomes

16:21the metronym for connection. You find

16:24this throughout the film and uh it's a

16:28ritual of trust and non-verbal

16:30communication. Like I said, how

16:33important it is to build the quotient of

16:36trust in the doctor patient relationship

16:38that is reflected in this particular

16:41film. Additionally,

16:44when they show that there is a touch

16:47that is happening, a hug that is

16:49happening, it also shows a physiological

16:53impact. Uh what happens? It reduces

16:56hormones. It boosts the immune system

16:59and endorphin release. This also has

17:02been uh validated through research and

17:06additionally what it does it challenges

17:09the rigid institutionalization

17:11and the conventional

17:15structured kind of relationship between

17:17the patient and the doctor. Other than

17:20that one aspect of Munabhai MBBS which I

17:25find is worthy of discussion here is how

17:28the rigid hierarchies of doctor centric

17:32model break which is something that we

17:35are also finding in the health care

17:37system now in fact also in nomenclature

17:39of medical and health. So health

17:42humanities is a more inclusive academic

17:45area of research. uh medical humanities

17:49is more around what I am discussing

17:51around one disease, one illness or the

17:53other. So in uh this film you find that

17:58they challenge this hierarchy where a

18:01clinical doctor is at the supreme and

18:03that is something that I will discuss

18:05also in the later part of my slides. But

18:07in this film what happens there is a

18:10democratization. So if you see this

18:12particular uh scene on your screen, you

18:14will find that Munabhai is embracing a

18:17sanitation worker in the hospital.

18:20So there is a doctor and there is a

18:23sanitation worker but the doctor is

18:25giving a hug. Jaduki Japi as they call

18:28it in the film throughout. Additionally,

18:30hospital became a space of relational

18:33care. So everybody is kind of coming

18:35together a kind of a team uh a feeling

18:37of solidarity, a feeling of family is

18:39there.

18:40What happens? Muna treats the ward boys,

18:44sanitation workers and patients as equal

18:46participants in healing and not as

18:49support staff. So while they function as

18:53support staff, Munabhai in his approach

18:56of empathy makes them all part of the

19:00healing system and that is how he

19:04democratizes the aspect of care.

19:07Institutional authority and rigid

19:09hierarchy is countered with emotional

19:11connection and care reflective

19:13throughout the film where he listens to

19:15all the patients first place which many

19:19of them have been perhaps longing for uh

19:22and that leads to entire change in the

19:25way

19:26their body starts responding their mind

19:29starts responding in a positive way. It

19:32is also about humanizing the clinical

19:35practice. Many of you must be using AI.

19:37It calls about how AI is humanizing now.

19:41So similarly clinical which was going

19:44very you know biology based

19:46science-based also needs humanizing and

19:49that is where these films intervene and

19:52they say no there has to be humanizing

19:55alignment to the clinical practice where

19:58the ward uh I'm sure you know the I mean

20:01hospital has wards so that ward becomes

20:03a space of relational care rather than

20:06the procedural strictness. So there are

20:08procedures no doubt but there is also a

20:11relational care that is there which

20:14means that everybody is a kind of a

20:15family. Now contemporary research argues

20:18that the doctor centric model can be

20:20detrimental to patients well-being. So

20:23very strict just clinical aspect might

20:26be problematic is something that has

20:28been researched. Application of

20:30narrative medicine this is a term I have

20:33already used where other factors become

20:35important. So you have honoring the

20:37patient story. So there is a there is a

20:39patient named Anand who is in a

20:41vegetative state uh and he's treated as

20:45a you know a passive subject but Muna

20:47doesn't uh care for this. He takes him

20:50for a walk, he talks to him and uh

20:53suddenly you know um there is uh so much

20:56of life uh in the scenes even though we

21:00know that the patient is in a vegetative

21:02state. Again go back to the metaphor uh

21:05that I had used when I was talking about

21:09illness and metaphors.

21:11Narrative competence. He uses personal

21:13stories and jokes to stimulate them.

21:15Again a way in which you enhance the

21:20narrative capacity of what you are uh

21:23talking about and it challenges the

21:25medical gaze in which it is strictly

21:29biology or science-based.

21:34The second film of analysis is Dr. G.

21:36It's a Hindi language film directed by

21:38Anubhuti Kashup and came out in 2022 and

21:42it follows uh the story of Udai Gupta.

21:45Now um it's a very interesting story

21:48because there is this male medical

21:50student aspiring to be an orthopedic

21:53surgeon but his rank is uh not enough

21:57for him to get orthopedics. So he gets

22:00gynecology and uh many of you might

22:03relate to it because uh many times uh

22:06the branches we choose are not about the

22:09choice we make but the rank we get. So

22:12what happens when he comes to something

22:14which is considered to be woman's

22:17department. He gets very uncomfortable

22:20and the film foregrounds the sensitivity

22:24in that doctor patient relationship and

22:26how Ud Gupta as a doctor overcomes this

22:34conditioning of being to certain extent

22:37biased towards the gynecology department

22:40as somewhere he doesn't fit as a male

22:43doctor. So quite a few times you will

22:45find the phrase losing of the male touch

22:48and I use it as part of how I go about

22:52uh discussing the theoretical model. So

22:54the first point that I want to make here

22:57is the myth of manly specializations. So

23:00how does that take place that there are

23:02certain disciplines because clinical u I

23:07mean disciplines also create some kind

23:09of hierarchy. So there are manly

23:11specializations. So orthopedic is a

23:14manly specialization compared to

23:17gynecology which carries a baggage of

23:20meanings related to sexuality that often

23:23triggers social taboos for male

23:25practitioners. So that is what we see

23:29the myth of manly specialization is

23:31broken. Now the humanistic sensibility.

23:35What does this mean? That male touch is

23:37not about male as such. It's about

23:41sensitive and insensitive. You know that

23:43is how the film projects and the

23:45protagonist is reprimanded to lose the

23:47male touch and focus on caring for the

23:50patient instead of his discomfort or ego

23:54so that he treats all the patients as

23:56the same. Uh narrative humility is here

23:59as well. So you find uh Udai Gupta

24:02surrendering to the gendered bias he

24:05because he's biased he

24:07performs his duties as a doctor and

24:11listening to his patients need but he

24:14has to go beyond that. Therefore he

24:17begins to listen and understand the

24:19perspective of his mentor colleagues and

24:22family. So you see Uda is asking the

24:25nurse to treat the patient. You see the

24:28scene here and Udai being hesitant in

24:31treating a female patient. So he's kind

24:32of hesitant. Yeah, you can see the face

24:35of Aayush Man Kurana here very tense as

24:38to where have you put me in a kind of a

24:40face. So in the patient fair first

24:43realization

24:45he develops that empathy and here it's

24:49about recognizing that the other is not

24:51an extension of our own needs or social

24:54categories. that other person is also

24:56me. Other person is also somebody who

25:00who is a patient and I as a doctor I

25:03cannot uh discriminate. I do not have

25:05any bias. So he learns to communicate

25:09with rather than performs procedures on

25:12the female patients in his care. And a

25:14very iconic kind of a scene happens a

25:17little later. So here so how he now

25:21turns into a medical citizen. So what

25:23happens? There is uh a cousin of Udai

25:28who has attempted to force a high-risk

25:30abortion on an underage pregnant girl to

25:33save his reputation. Her name is Cavia.

25:36See uh he's taking her to the hospital.

25:38She's underage but she's pregnant and

25:40now there is this miscarriage that has

25:43happened. So how is that dealt by Udai?

25:46Uh it's very sensitive. You find that

25:48Udai helps in crisis and chooses to

25:52confront his cousin for his action like

25:55he is his family but still you find that

26:00he is reprimanding him and saying that

26:03this is not legal. By recognizing his

26:07moral debt to the patient, he outweighs

26:10familial bonds and evolves into a

26:12medicali citizen who actively resists

26:15systemic injustice. So that is how the

26:19film represents the transition of Ud

26:21Gupta and it is this incident in which U

26:26finds the right touch and the loss of

26:28the male touch that was earlier

26:31mentioned and runs as a parallel

26:34narrative throughout the film. You do a

26:37comparative analysis you find that in

26:39Umunabhai MBBS the protagonist is

26:41outsider whereas in Dr. The protagonist

26:44is medical intern. There is source of

26:47empathy purely instinctual. It's not

26:50based on any u training and here it

26:54comes over a period of time. He

26:58overcomes his internal gender bias and

27:01stereotypes and that is how in this film

27:03you find it is in opposition to the

27:05medical clinical setup lacking human

27:08sensitivity. Whereas here it's about

27:10transformation. the transformation of

27:13the character arc and how he learns

27:16narrative competence and humility. But

27:19what do both films do? They democratize

27:22the clinical practice shifting from

27:24authoritative medical gaze to a more

27:27inclusive tenderminded model based on

27:30the foundation of trust and empathy.

27:34So cinema education, cinema education is

27:37one word as a pedagogical catalyst. I

27:40will talk about how comics has been uh

27:43employed to decimate the information of

27:46covid-19 during pandemic. But for the

27:49time being you also understand this

27:51model. This is a again a combination

27:53word of cinema and education where

27:56cinema is employed to educate. What does

27:59it do? It helps to view patients as

28:02complex individual instead of just

28:05clinical cases. It experience high

28:08emotional stake and primary response

28:11without immediate burden of clinical

28:13responsibility. It encourages students

28:16and viewers to reflect on their own

28:18biases and perspective. Visual

28:21storytelling's unique capacity to

28:23represent empathy and trust. And finally

28:27leads to a better understanding of

28:29biocschosocial model of health. This

28:32means if you I put it all together into

28:35one uh line, it means that cinema is

28:40employed as a medium to educate about

28:45stories of medicine or narratives of

28:48medicine or issues of medicine. Not from

28:52the perspective of science alone but

28:55from the perspective of how society

28:58assigns certain kind of meaning to these

29:00kind of disease. How your mind as a

29:03patient respond to it and what is the

29:07diagnosis the uh doctor is going to

29:09make. Uh finally uh is this is we are

29:14living in the age of uh technocratic

29:16efficiency and therefore there is huge

29:19amount of requirement to go ahead and

29:22humanize it and that is what uh these

29:25two films do. They add the

29:28quotient of individuality

29:31and personalization so to say into the

29:35whole domain of medicine and finally

29:37talk about the trust and empathy which

29:40remain the dual pillars to ensure that

29:43care remains patient centric. On that

29:46note I will take your leave and I we

29:48will meet soon in the next class where

29:50we'll we will talk about other important

29:52issues in the field of medical

29:54humanities. Thank you.

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