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0:05Kazu on in thank you very much for

0:08having me here today and I I'd like to

0:12start by acknowledging the land that

0:14we're standing on here tonight thank you

0:17very much I always feel good being here

0:18on the territory of the young Gong Qin

0:21people the unceded territory of the

0:23Algonquin people I think I know you

0:26yes I do know you I thought so it's been

0:29a while sorry the last time I saw you

0:35though we were at the secret path that's

0:38right it was a very first secret path

0:40concert I was with national be asking

0:43nation Pearl when Jack and her sister

0:46Daisy and their extended family and you

0:49were the elder there who along with your

0:52partner I remember you gave us much

0:53ceremony to all of us that was quite a

0:56that was a very special day I carried

0:59that day with me

1:00cheap marriage and I'd like to also

1:03acknowledge the elders in the room that

1:05are here today um and I think I see

1:09Denise so much stone child back there do

1:12i yes maybe you know okay oh I thought

1:15he did I thought so

1:17oh my glasses on okay thank you

1:22it's good to see you I'm like I know you

1:26it's funny I always know someone

1:28somewhere always works that way and I'd

1:31also like to say thank you for my family

1:33that's here tonight too my daughter

1:35Natasha is here and this is one of those

1:38lovely Friday evenings or my teenage

1:40daughter it gets to listen to me speak

1:42it's always fun I am going to tell you a

1:48little bit about myself tonight I'm

1:52going to tell you the story about the

1:54seven fallen feathers and I'm going to

1:56tell you the story about Canada because

1:59the book that I wrote spent quite a few

2:02years writing is not just a story about

2:06Thunder Bay it is a story about this

2:08entire country it's a story about all of

2:10us and I hope that

2:13I hope that you hear my message and I

2:16hope that I don't upset you too much

2:18because I know that sometimes when I

2:19talk especially if I have any

2:21residential school survivors in the room

2:24it can be kind of emotional and I

2:27apologize for that and I hope you just

2:29stay with me I also hope that you stay

2:32with me because I often talk in circles

2:34I start with something and it takes me a

2:37while to get around to it but I usually

2:39have a point and I blame this on being

2:42cultural I just sort of talk in a big

2:43circle but I always do have a point so

2:46please bear with me with that as well

2:49but I am going to tell you how I first

2:53came to this story I have been a

2:57journalist at the Toronto Star for about

2:5922 years now I started when I was 12

3:05thank you for that and I started I did

3:10everything really in the Star newsroom

3:11but at around 2011 I found myself

3:13writing about politics I was at Queen's

3:16Park I was a reporter that was just

3:20young with politics I didn't know very

3:21much what I was doing and in 2011 you

3:24may recall that there was a federal

3:26election going on and if you are a

3:28political journalist or trying to be a

3:30political journalist that's sort of what

3:32you want to write about you want to

3:34write about the election and at the time

3:37I'll refresh your memory Jack Layton was

3:39duking it out against Stephen Harper and

3:41I thought to myself well how am I going

3:44to get on the election trail being a

3:47provincial reporter not being a federal

3:49one and so I thought to myself I should

3:51do a story on indigenous voting patterns

3:54keep in mind this is before the TRC

3:57reported this is before the idle no more

4:00movement was throughout Canada this is

4:03before the sort of proliferation of

4:05social media concerning indigenous

4:08issues and so when I presented a story

4:12on indigenous issues to my editors as

4:15often when I would they would look at me

4:17and think that that story was slightly

4:18exotic sounding something that you know

4:21they'd never really heard of before and

4:22so they said okay you know that's a good

4:24idea why don't you why don't you write

4:26that story

4:27because the story I wanted to tell was

4:28well you know if indigenous people were

4:31to sort of get together and vote as

4:33blocks they could really sort of change

4:35the outcome of the election in certain

4:37in certain areas and in certain writings

4:39in the north and of course I wanted to

4:41write about Northern Ontario because

4:43that is the territory that I'm more

4:45familiar with that is the territory of

4:47my mother and my grandmother and all of

4:50the grandmothers before her and so I

4:53pitched my editor I'm like I'd like to

4:56go and see Stan Bertie who at the time

4:58was the grand chief of nishan I'll be

5:00asking nation my editor said sure great

5:03that's that's a great idea one should go

5:05up there and do it so I did I flew up

5:08there and I just have to say too if if

5:11you pitch a story to a newspaper editor

5:13your boss and it involves like a plane

5:15ride so travel a hotel and everything

5:17else you better come back with the story

5:19that you you know you originally went

5:21there for because the thing is is that

5:23you know we don't have for any made much

5:25money in newspapers even in 2011 so I

5:28pitched this story I went up to Thunder

5:32Bay to go talk to Stan and as you heard

5:38in my a little bit about me in my bio

5:40the reason why I also went to Thunder

5:43Bay was because my mother was raised on

5:45the traditional territory of Fort

5:46William first nation my grandmother is a

5:48member of Fort William First Nation and

5:50I also knew in my heart I knew the

5:54reasons why indigenous people were not

5:56voting and have not historically been

5:59voting it's changing now it's helping

6:01it's getting a little bit better with

6:03the more representation more people that

6:04we see but I knew that indigenous people

6:07in this country did not get the right to

6:09vote until 1960 and I know that that's

6:12also a factor but I went and I went to

6:16go interview Stan Bertie now Stan Bertie

6:20as I said was the was the grand chief at

6:24the time for Anishinabe a ski nation

6:27miss Dobby a ski nation so you know is a

6:30territory roughly the size of the

6:32country of France it is north of Thunder

6:35Bay it reaches east to James Bay it

6:38reaches north to Hudson

6:40and west to the Manitoba border there

6:43are 49 First Nations living in this

6:45territory roughly about 45,000 people

6:48and all of the kids that live there if

6:52they want to go to high school they have

6:54to leave their homes and they have to

6:57fly to a city a city like Timmins a city

7:01like Thunder Bay a city like Sioux

7:03Lookout yes I just said Sioux Lookout

7:05was the city and this is here this is

7:10this is a tough thing this is 600 500

7:15700 kilometers away from home this is

7:18what you have to do in order to get a

7:20high school education it's a remarkable

7:23thing isn't it when you think about

7:24every other child in this country has

7:28the right to go to high school and they

7:31probably don't have to fly 500 600 or

7:33700 kilometres away to go to school they

7:37don't have to leave their language most

7:39of the kids that live in Ashe Nabi ASCII

7:41nation territory they speak which of way

7:43they speak they speak a decree they

7:45speak Cree that is their first language

7:47their second language is English they

7:50have to leave everything that they know

7:51they have to get on a plane at 13 14 or

7:5415 and they come to Thunder Bay and they

7:58live with boarding parents and they have

8:00to learn everything they come from

8:03communities that often don't have

8:04drinkable water they come from

8:06communities that don't have traffic

8:08lights they're roughly in size between

8:11300 people to about 1,500 2,000 people

8:15at the most these communities there's no

8:17bowling alleys there's no mall if you're

8:20lucky you have a northern store and if

8:22you ever been to a northern store

8:24there's not much there I mean yes you

8:26got rubber boots and a ham you get your

8:29staples it's kind of a catch-all store

8:31but it's it's no place that you would go

8:33and hang around and look for the latest

8:34fashions or anything like that if you're

8:36a kid so this is what the kids are

8:39leaving they're leaving everything that

8:40they know and they're also leaving and

8:44many circumstances poverty and they're

8:47coming into the city and when they come

8:50into the city they bring everything with

8:51them

8:52when I'm getting a little bit ahead of

8:54myself but when I was just sitting there

8:57talking to Stan we were talking about

8:59these things I wanted to talk about the

9:01federal election this is what he wanted

9:03to talk about so we began to have two

9:05different conversations I was the manic

9:08Toronto journalist that was asking him

9:10questions about the federal election and

9:12he was looking at me and he was talking

9:14about these things and he was saying to

9:16me why aren't you writing a story about

9:18Jordan my boss and I sort of thought oh

9:21my gosh he's not hearing what I'm saying

9:23so I would repeat my question and he

9:26would say it again he goes why aren't

9:28you writing about Jordan and we went on

9:30like that for about 10 15 minutes and

9:32again it was like two different

9:34languages and then I sort of had to stop

9:37myself and I had to realize hold on a

9:40second you're being incredibly rude

9:43remember where you're sitting remember

9:46who you are sitting with and remember

9:48who you are you need to listen to what

9:51he's trying to tell you this is a grand

9:53chief and he's trying to say something

9:54to you so I like to think at that moment

9:57in time I opened my ears to what he was

9:59saying and when I did I could not

10:02believe what he was saying to me he told

10:04me that Jordan was the seventh child to

10:07go missing or to die while at school in

10:10Thunder Bay since 2000 number seven

10:15there's a lot of weight with that word

10:17and if you are a national you know a lot

10:21about the weight of number seven you

10:23know about the seven grandfather's

10:25teaching you know about the seven

10:27generations and when he said that to me

10:29I just I just couldn't believe it and I

10:32couldn't believe it on another level too

10:34I couldn't believe that there were well

10:37Jordan was just missing at that point

10:39but there were six other students who

10:41had gone missing and who had died while

10:44trying to get a high school education in

10:47Canada how come I didn't hear this in

10:50the news where were the screaming

10:53headlines in the CBC or The Globe and

10:55Mail or any other national newspaper I

10:57didn't see that anywhere and I didn't

11:00understand okay well why is that well I

11:05sort of understood

11:06but I didn't really want to understand

11:08why so that's when Stan said to me let

11:12me take you on a drive and so I said

11:15okay and I hopped in Stan's pickup truck

11:19and he popped in a gospel CD in the in

11:26his truck and we started listening to

11:29some music about God and then I remember

11:31looking at Stan I said Stan what's up

11:34with the music and then Stan said to me

11:39he said when I listen to music about God

11:42I think about my son Daniel and then he

11:45told me the story about how Daniel died

11:48how he was beaten to within an inch of

11:51his life basically at a house party for

11:54William first nation and how he died

11:56later in hospital and how he was a

11:59goalie and how he was their only son and

12:02how he had come to Thunder Bay to go to

12:05high school while Stan and his wife were

12:07living in Thunder Bay so he could be

12:09Grand chief up Anishinabe a ski nation

12:11and it became apparent to me that as

12:14Stan was telling me the story about his

12:16son and about losing his son he wasn't

12:18just talking about his son he was also

12:20talking about the seven children that

12:22I'm gonna be talking to you about

12:23tonight he was talking about all of the

12:25all of our failures to keep all of our

12:27kids safe this is what he was really

12:30speaking of so then we get to where

12:33we're going he parks his his truck the

12:36shores of the Communist aqua river and

12:38when we got there I felt kind of sick

12:41because I knew where we were and he said

12:46get out of the truck let's go down to

12:48the water and I got out of the truck and

12:51I looked up and I could see Mount Mackay

12:53and Mount Mackay is the spiritual center

12:56of war at William First Nation Mount

12:59Mackay is my grandmother's reserve mount

13:02McKay's where I've been with my children

13:04for powwow is where they've run through

13:05the grass and there I am staring at

13:07Mount Mackay and that's when Stan said

13:09to me this is where we think the last

13:12place Jordan was when he went missing

13:15and then he told me that trackers from

13:18cat Lake had found his shoe too still

13:20her by the where we were standing and

13:23within just over a month of us standing

13:27where we were Jordans body would be

13:29found exactly where we were that day so

13:34Stan continued on and he took me we got

13:37back in the truck and we went to Dennis

13:39Franklin Cromartie High School and see

13:42the kids behind me that I'm going to

13:44tell you about tonight six of them went

13:46to DF c DF c is a indigenous high school

13:51in Thunder Bay it is a federally funded

13:54high school the money is given to the

13:57First Nations education Authority and

13:59they run the school but you should also

14:02know that historically in this country

14:05indigenous kids have constantly been

14:08underfunded for education I think

14:12generally it's the numbers around 2,000

14:14to 3,000 dollars less per pupil poor

14:16indigenous pupil than a non indigenous

14:18people in this country some provinces

14:21are way worse than others I think a

14:23Saskatchewan is quite bad it's like

14:2510,000 to 12,000 dollars per pupil it's

14:28it's quite remarkable so it fluctuates

14:30all over the place and also to you

14:32should know that if you're operating a

14:34high school in Thunder Bay you should

14:36add a northern quotient on to everything

14:39that the money that you're receiving to

14:41run a high school because you often have

14:43to fly your kids in and out of home

14:45flying your kids in and out of home

14:47takes up you have to charter airplanes

14:49and that's a pretty expensive thing I

14:52was just looking at charters the other

14:53day to go up to Appa [ __ ] and it would

14:56have cost me $2,000 this is what you

14:59have to pay and oftentimes schools have

15:01to take money out of their budget DFC

15:03does if they have to send a child home

15:05because there is an emergency and this

15:07type of thing happens often but anyway

15:11I'll get back to all of that I want to

15:14introduce you to the kids you can see

15:18them all behind me I'm going to tell you

15:21a little bit about them now but I'm

15:23going to tell you more about them later

15:24on as I go the first boy though to go

15:29missing and two to die his name was Jeff

15:33Anderson he's wearing the white baseball

15:36cap in the top left corner up there he

15:40was 15 years old he actually just turned

15:4315 on October 1st of 2008 of Dennis

15:49Franklin Cromartie high school that was

15:51a day of a lot of a lot of happiness

15:53this was the time that the school had

15:55finally opened in Thunder Bay after

15:57there being such a need for a school for

16:00First Nations kids in the city this was

16:02finally opening and nobody thought none

16:05of the educators or the administrators

16:07thought that within one month of the

16:09school opening they would have a missing

16:12child nobody thought that they would

16:15have a dead student as well by the end

16:17of that month I should also tell you

16:21that Jethro was from Casa Bonica Lake

16:23First Nation which is about six hundred

16:26kilometers northwest of Thunder Bay

16:29beside him in the yellow hoodie is Kern

16:32Strang Kern Strang was from pecans accom

16:35first nation and you all being

16:37healthcare professionals you would know

16:40that pecan should come first nation at

16:42one point it was actually the point when

16:45when Curran died had the highest youth

16:49suicide rate in the Western world

16:51it was around 2005 2006 Curran not only

16:56was he a high school student he was also

17:00battling going home constantly having to

17:03go home to funerals

17:04he lost many many friends and relatives

17:07during this time at DFC and he had tried

17:13very many times to - to go to school but

17:17sometimes all of these problems the

17:19things that I'm talking to you about -

17:20that's the suicides and pecans you come

17:23you know the kids when they leave their

17:25homes they don't leave everything at

17:28home they bring it all with them when

17:30they go to school Curran needed so much

17:33more support that he was getting and

17:36sadly he never got that support if you

17:40read the book you will see I was privy

17:43to the inquest records of

17:46of the of the kids of the seven fallen

17:48feathers and there's a quite extensive

17:50chapter on his his schooling and on the

17:54records of him at school and you could

17:57see from when he first started in high

17:59school he was happy in his letters were

18:01loopy and lovely and his handwriting was

18:03as you can see he was clearly a happy

18:06child and then by the time that he just

18:08before he died his letters became very

18:11slanted and over almost like you

18:13couldn't see them it was very telling

18:16very telling

18:18the next the next child is Paul Panna

18:21cheese I'm he was from Mishka gamming

18:23first nation which is the only nation

18:26out of the ones I'm going to talk about

18:28today that you could actually drive

18:29through Mishka GOG man is at the end of

18:32highway five nine nine which in Ontario

18:34was the last serviced provincial roadway

18:37it's about a six-hour drive outside of

18:40Thunder Bay North West and Paul died at

18:44home and I'm going to talk a little bit

18:46about that later because since we are a

18:49crowd here of health professionals I'm

18:51going to tell you a little bit more

18:52about Paul than the other kids

18:55beside Paul was the only girl her name

18:58is Robin Harper

19:00she was from ki Wayland First Nation

19:02keyway when first nation is Northwest

19:05again around 600 700 meters north of

19:08northwest of Thunder Bay and he Wayman

19:12only has about 400 people in it and

19:15there were two students that died from

19:17key Whelan two students that a that in a

19:21community that size is a massive loss it

19:24is a loss that every single person feels

19:27qa1 has had a lot of sorrow that way now

19:32at the bottom in the Sox cap that's

19:34Reggie Bush II he was also fifteen years

19:39old and we actually just had the 10-year

19:42memorial for his death and in Thunder

19:45Bay I can tell you a little bit about

19:48that later on but we had we had a

19:51ceremony

19:51traditionally choice ceremony down by

19:53the water and we had a massive feast and

19:56we brought actually five of the families

19:59of the seven fall

20:00feathers into Thunder Bay for for that

20:02day

20:04Kyle more so is the one that's got the

20:08ear buds in and the black hat and he is

20:10seated beside Reggie Kyle is also from

20:14qa1 first nation so he's the second one

20:17that I was telling you about from a

20:19small community and the boy there is the

20:24one that brought me into this story the

20:26one with the gray hoodie and that's

20:28Jordan my boss and he was also just 15

20:31years old so since I'm talking here with

20:38a group of health professionals i'ma

20:40talk a little bit about the determinants

20:42of health so I was thinking about this a

20:44little bit gosh you're so lucky when I

20:47actually start to think about things

20:48aren't you but I was thinking about this

20:51so because you know um we talked about

20:54in health care you talked so much about

20:56the determinants of health and you know

21:00these are the things that make people

21:01healthy right this determines whether or

21:03not you're going to be a healthy person

21:05and it's by their circumstances by the

21:07environment that they live in this is

21:08what I understand anyway and those

21:11determinants include social economic

21:15environments physical environment the

21:19person's individual characteristics our

21:22genetics and their behaviors and the

21:27context of people's lives determine

21:30their health so blaming people for non

21:34health is inappropriate as far as I can

21:37see when it comes to the determinants of

21:39health so when I look at the communities

21:42of the seven fallen feathers and where

21:44they came from

21:45I can see none of these things I see

21:49improper housing

21:51I see overcrowding I see cemeteries in

21:55front yards I see a lack of sewage I see

22:00a lack of clean water I see a lack of

22:04health and nursing stations I don't see

22:07any doctors I don't see very much mental

22:11health care as well

22:13I've already talked about the lack of

22:14schools there are elementary schools in

22:17the north Anishinabe ascii nation but

22:19schooling basically ends at grade 8 or

22:22grade 9 if you want to continue on your

22:24education you have to get on a plane and

22:27it's like what I was saying earlier

22:28leave every single thing that you know

22:30your family your language and you have

22:33to go to Thunder Bay to go to high

22:35school I also see when I go to the

22:40communities I see a lack of fresh food I

22:43see very expensive prices in northern

22:45stores I don't see very much fruit and

22:49then when I look at Canada I see a

22:52health care system that is marveled at

22:54by the rest of the world everybody

22:56marvels at our health care system and

22:58says how incredible it is you know the

23:01health care system does work it works

23:04for the people that it was not designed

23:05to work for it was designed to work for

23:08non indigenous Canadians it was not

23:11designed to work for First Nations I do

23:15not see a system for the 634 First

23:18Nations in this country each with their

23:21own unique ways and their cultures and

23:23their own unique language as many of

23:26them have their own languages I see 634

23:30First Nations across this country that

23:32are trying to fill out forms that are

23:35trying to fit into colonial systems and

23:38if you you guys you know the health

23:39system you know the battle it is for

23:41many of the bands and the council's if

23:43they want to get health service funding

23:45it's not easy and if they're in crisis -

23:48that's not easy again you're filling out

23:50sometimes forms and one First Nation and

23:53I know in particular was in the middle

23:55of a suicide epidemic of young girls

23:58actually and they had asked Health

24:00Canada had to fill out the form and

24:01asked for money saying you know we we

24:03need help here and they were told by

24:05Health Canada that this is not in our

24:06budget cycle right now I see also -

24:11community band councils doing many

24:13things at this time there they're

24:15filling out the forms they're trying to

24:17get all of this stuff together for for

24:19healthcare but not just for health care

24:21they're also trying to do things like

24:22order bulldozers bring up construction

24:25equipment

24:26try and find housing trying to get clean

24:28water there is no Department federal

24:32Department of Health Canada there is

24:33there are no 60,000 or 70,000

24:36bureaucrats in their public service

24:38waiting there to fill everything out and

24:40to help them through so I see two

24:45different things I see a real disconnect

24:47between a Western health care system and

24:50an indigenous health care system there

24:55are so many different things on the go

24:57for for these nations at this time and

25:00it's such a challenging reality I really

25:02do hope that there they do find a way to

25:05sort of work it all together but this is

25:07not going to be easy and I'm honestly

25:10I'm not here tonight to yell at

25:12everybody or to say you know this is

25:15this is a problem that you have created

25:17this is a problem that we all have now

25:21and that we all must work together to

25:24change I don't want you to be paralyzed

25:27by all the things that I'm saying I

25:29don't want you to say but what can I do

25:30you know this is how it's always been

25:32that's a federal responsibility that's

25:34not really my responsibility I work for

25:36the province so I work for a Lyn or I

25:38work for this or that because I don't

25:40think that that really washes anymore I

25:43think that for a long time

25:45Canadians have had an indifference to

25:49First Nations issues and to indigenous

25:51issues and that has built what we see

25:54now today that has built the sort of the

25:58Canadian healthcare system and the lack

26:00of a health care system for indigenous

26:02people I think that that has caused a

26:05lot of violence and that violence is

26:06what we are seeing now today we see that

26:09sort of percolate we see it with the

26:12Gerald Stanley trial with the death of

26:14Colton bushy we see it with Tina

26:17Fontaine the death of Tina Fontaine and

26:19we see it with the seven fallen feathers

26:21we see this all throughout the country

26:24and so you see when I was telling you

26:26before that this is not just a story

26:27about Thunder Bay it isn't this is a

26:29story about the whole country but you

26:32have to understand the context - of

26:34where this all comes from I'm going to

26:39give you that context

26:40little bit now hens since we're in

26:43Ottawa I'd like to read my favorite

26:45quote from Sir John a McDonald's

26:49remember how I was telling you about how

26:52the kids in the north have to fly and

26:55leave their homes if they want to go to

26:57school leave their language their

26:58culture and everything they have in

27:01order to get an education which is a

27:02fundamental right of every other child

27:04in this nation well doesn't this sound a

27:07lot like sort of something else that

27:08we've experienced in this country and

27:10that's the Indian residential school

27:12system and I'm just going to refresh

27:14your memories a little bit on what that

27:16was and what it was all about as you

27:19know from the mid 1880s to 1996 when the

27:24last residential school closed 150,000

27:27indigenous kids were taken from their

27:30families from their language from their

27:32culture from everything that they knew

27:35and they were sent to government-run

27:38church funded oh sorry got that wrong

27:41Church run government funded schools and

27:46the reason why they did this the

27:49government did this was because of

27:51something called the Indian Act it was

27:53because of treaties it was because of

27:55land and it was because of a belief that

28:00the best thing for indigenous people who

28:03at that point the term was savages when

28:06they were thinking about in addition is

28:07people but the best thing for them was

28:09to assimilate them into Canadian society

28:12and this was a prevailing thought at the

28:15moment this is from Sir John a MacDonald

28:17when the school is on the reserve the

28:20child lives with the parents who are

28:21savages he is surrounded by savages and

28:24though he may learn to read and write

28:26his habits and training and mode of

28:28thought are Indian he is simply a savage

28:31you can read and write it has been

28:34strongly pressed on myself as head of

28:36the department that Indian children

28:38should be withdrawn as much as possible

28:40from the parental influence and the only

28:42way to do that would be to put them in

28:44central training industrial schools

28:46where they will acquire the habits and

28:48modes of thought of white men

28:53so remember how earlier I was telling

28:56you I went to go visit Stan Stan Berra

28:58Teja grand chief who gave me a good

29:01piece of advice took me a while but I

29:02finally did listen to what he was saying

29:04well before I started to write 7 fallen

29:07feathers I sat down and I spoke to

29:09another grand chief this one his name is

29:12Elvin fiddler he's uh he's a good friend

29:14of mine and he is now the grand chief of

29:17Anishinabe a ski nation after Stan after

29:20Stan left and I remember it was at

29:22Easter weekend about two years ago we

29:24sat down and I said to Alvin you know

29:26Alvin I've been meaning to write a book

29:29about the seven students who died in

29:30Thunder Bay and Alvin looked at me and

29:34he nodded his head and then I apologized

29:36and I said you know Alvin I'm sorry that

29:39I didn't have a chance to write it

29:40before but you know life got in the way

29:44I'm a mom I have a job I've got two kids

29:48and I needed to be in a certain space I

29:51think when I was writing about the seven

29:53fallen feathers it's not an easy it's

29:56not an easy topic and I needed to be

29:59mentally and emotionally in a certain

30:01spot when I wrote this book and I was

30:04ready then when I talked to Elvin and he

30:07looked at me and he said you know you

30:09weren't meant to write that book before

30:11but you are now and then he said to me

30:14you need to start with Johnny when Jack

30:15and I looked at him and I was

30:19embarrassed because I didn't know who

30:21Johnny when Jack was at that moment this

30:24was before gore Downey and the secret

30:28path I had not read the Ian Adams

30:30article in Maclean's talking about

30:32Johnny it was written and published in

30:341967 I wasn't aware of him I should have

30:38been but I wasn't so he gave me some

30:42good advice

30:43because you see Johnny's story is tied

30:45into the seven students stories it's

30:48tied into all of the kids stories

30:50actually and when he told me when Alvin

30:54told me you need to start with Johnny I

30:56packed up my kids and my mom and we went

30:59from Thunder Bay where we were staying

31:02once

31:03and we drove to Canora and I went to go

31:06see an elder I went to go see Thomas

31:08White from Grand Council treaty number

31:10three and I went to the spot where

31:13Cecelia Jeffrey Indian Residential

31:14school used to stand and there's nothing

31:19left

31:20really if cecilia jeffery the entire

31:22building has been razed to the ground

31:23and the territory that it stood on by

31:25round lake has been given to Grand

31:27Council treated number three and so

31:28Grand Council Treaty three has stuck a

31:30little tiny mobile home on it that's

31:32what it looks like anyway in this little

31:33tiny office and in the little office

31:36it's a satellite office was Thomas white

31:39so I went to go see Thomas white and I

31:42asked him about Shawnee and I asked him

31:44about Cecilia Jeffrey Indian Residential

31:46school I said please tell me more tell

31:48me more about about this place and he

31:51pulled out he went under his desk and he

31:53pulled out this massive briefcase his

31:55black plastic briefcase and inside there

31:57were all of these photographs and I

32:00couldn't believe what I was seeing and I

32:02felt again sort of sick to my stomach

32:03because as I looked down and I noticed

32:05they were photograph after photograph

32:08hundreds of them of all of these kids

32:10from different different years from the

32:1430s 40s 50s 60s from the 70s and none of

32:19them were labeled there were no

32:21identification marks there were maybe

32:23honestly a handful of photographs so

32:26we're lucky enough to have any any

32:29thought of taking down the name of who

32:32was in these pictures and I kept

32:34thinking to myself I think I'm gonna be

32:36sick if I was a parent of one of these

32:40kids I would want to know how my child

32:42is I would like to know and look in

32:45these faces where is my child did they

32:48ever see any of these photographs I'm

32:51willing to bet no not at all and why I

32:55like this picture in particular is is

32:58because this is the standard issue of

33:00Cecilia Jeffrey Indian Residential

33:02school it was a Presbyterian and United

33:06Church who run the school and this is

33:08what the kids wore they wore flannel

33:10shirts jeans they had like little

33:14windbreakers and they also

33:17leather boots and if you know the story

33:19about Shawnee when Jack that's exactly

33:21what he was wearing when he was found on

33:23the railway tracks at the end of October

33:26in 1966 of course he ran away he ran

33:30away from this residential school he

33:33wasn't the only kid to run away that

33:35Sunday evening to nine kids from Cecelia

33:38Jeffrey ran away that afternoon and you

33:40have to think to yourself I wonder why

33:43nine children were running away that

33:45Sunday what was waiting for them later

33:48on in the day that they all took off

33:52Johnny got pretty far and johnny was a

33:54smart kid he was 12 years old and he

33:56thought to himself in his

33:57twelve-year-old mind I came in here by

34:00railway so I'm going to go home by

34:02railway so that's why he walked along

34:05the railway and he walked and he walked

34:08and he walked and he got to just outside

34:11of Reddit Ontario where he couldn't walk

34:14anymore and he died of exposure because

34:18if you know anything about Northern

34:19Ontario you know that in the day time

34:22around the coast of Superior it can be

34:24beautiful outside during the day it can

34:26be warm and sunny and then at night it

34:29drops to a really cold freezing and Lake

34:32Superior is quite quite a monster

34:34sometimes it's sort of it it's it

34:36handles all the weather systems really

34:38in that area you know a breeze can blow

34:41in a cold rain awful weather at the last

34:45moment and that's where in reddit

34:48Ontario's where Johnny was found he was

34:51walking almost he was trying to walk and

34:53he didn't know this but home was a

34:54thousand kilometres away so that was

34:57quite a journey quite a journey to have

34:59and he don't have any food with you to

35:04remember how I was saying that there

35:07weren't any identification marks on any

35:09of the pictures I got lucky with this

35:12picture here and this is a picture that

35:14I love because this is a picture of of

35:17pearl pearl when Jack pearl is number

35:21six on the screen I couldn't believe it

35:24when I found that she would have been

35:27about 16 or 17 at this time

35:30and she was at Cecelia Jeffrey Indian

35:33Residential school - and that's her

35:36there with the glasses on I'm gonna do I

35:42hope you don't mind but I'm gonna do a

35:44small reading about the last time pearl

35:47saw her brother it's it's important this

35:52is important to the story and this sort

35:54of gives you an idea - of how close she

35:56was to her brother and what things were

35:59like for them where they lived at ago

36:01keepo switches martin falls first nation

36:03that's along the Albany River so just

36:07bear with me for a minute

36:08in September 1966 18 year-old pearl when

36:12Jack is balancing on the pontoons of a

36:14plane floating on the deep clear water

36:16of the Albany River the pontoons marked

36:19the location of the ago key post Airport

36:21which is 3.2 kilometers northeast of

36:24Martin Falls first nation the when Jack

36:27family lives at a go keep host where the

36:29ago key River converges with the mighty

36:31Albany that feeds into James Bay a go

36:34key is a community of a few hundred

36:36people and part of the larger Martin

36:37Falls first nation fir trees lined the

36:40banks as far as the eye can see on a

36:43sunny day the river acts as a mirror

36:45casting an endless reflection of the

36:47forests edge Perl is small in stature

36:50with a slight agile build her brown eyes

36:53set back over high cheekbones never

36:55failed to twinkle with merriment Perl

36:58has a fun-loving personality and a sharp

37:00mind her comments are always intelligent

37:03and insightful and she always knows what

37:05is going on and with whom she has a

37:07knack for bringing levity and ease no

37:09matter how serious a situation making

37:12you feel that everything's gonna be just

37:13alright pearls personality would have

37:16attracted her 12 year old brother Johnny

37:18like a magnet he too had a mischievous

37:21streak and their busy house of eleven

37:23kids she held a special spot for him in

37:25her heart and he for her for reasons

37:29unknown to her pearls name had been left

37:32off the list of kids from the reserve

37:33who being sent to Cecilia Jeffery Indian

37:36Residential school her siblings Annie

37:39Margaret Daisy Evelyn Martha Lizzie

37:43George and Shani we're waiting for the

37:45plane but she was the only one who's

37:47told she would stay home that year why

37:50aren't you going Shani asked looking up

37:52at his older sister my name is not on

37:55the list

37:55she replied if you weren't going I don't

37:58want to go either he said it was the

38:01first time pearl had heard her brother

38:02say he didn't want to return to school

38:05pearl told him he had to go there father

38:08wanted him to go to school and all his

38:10friends were already on the plane there

38:12was no choice here Shani understood

38:15after our moment of silence he looked up

38:18at pearl and asked her to promise to do

38:20a few things for him she remembers this

38:23is what he said washed all my clothes

38:26and put them away put them in a box he

38:28said referring to the compact cardboard

38:31boxes that they're cartons of eggs were

38:33delivered in you can have my burgundy

38:35sweater the one that buttons up the

38:37front put my red cap on the top of the

38:39box he waited for a moment and then he

38:42continued look after my dogs matches in

38:46any mush make sure they don't get lost

38:48or beaten up she agreed but she felt a

38:51twinge of unease then she stood back on

38:54the shoreline and watched her brother

38:55climb into the plane and take a seat she

38:58wondered why he had asked her to pack up

39:00his clothes and put them in a box that

39:03was odd that was what they did when

39:05somebody died Johnny never came home

39:11again in October of that year that's

39:17when he left school in October and late

39:20October's when he died and it's

39:23important that you know that an inquest

39:24was held in to Johnny's death and this

39:28is important an inquest was held and

39:32there were no indigenous people on the

39:35jury

39:35Johnny's family had no idea the inquest

39:39was taken place they were given no legal

39:41representation and the jury of the

39:44inquest they had some interesting things

39:46to say actually they had one really

39:49interesting question and that was why

39:51are we doing this why are we doing this

39:54in the 1960s why are we taking chill

39:57away from their families from their

39:59homes from their culture from their

40:01language from everything they know and

40:03sending them away to school why is it we

40:07don't have schools for all children in

40:10their communities that was in the 1960s

40:14you can see where I'm going with this

40:18now as I go back to the seven fallen

40:20feathers

40:21it is 2018 and we are still asking those

40:25same questions why do we not have high

40:28schools for every child in this country

40:31that needs one in every community that

40:33needs one that you should also know is

40:35one of the chief recommendations of the

40:37Truth and Reconciliation Commission and

40:39it also is out of the inquest into the

40:41death of the seven students so I

40:46promised I would talk to you a little

40:48bit more about the kids and I'm going to

40:51and when I talk about all this - I know

40:55that your health professionals so I hope

40:57you're all thinking about the

40:58determinants of health that we were all

41:00talking about before because that's all

41:02really important to remember in the

41:04story of all these kids this all plays a

41:06role into the deaths of all seven so

41:11Jethro Anderson remember I was telling

41:13you about him 15 years old and he was

41:15the first the first child to go missing

41:17and to die

41:18it was his birthday remember on October

41:211st that's when he turned 15 he was a

41:23good kid he never it wasn't his pattern

41:26to to disappear and not come home and he

41:29was actually one of the luckier kids -

41:31because instead of going to a boarding

41:32house where he didn't know anybody he

41:34got to go to Dora Morris's house and

41:36Dora Morris is an awesome woman and she

41:39was his aunt she was sister to his

41:43father Sam so he was living in a loving

41:48home he was living with Dora Dora

41:49basically raised Jethro as well

41:52throughout his young life when his

41:54parents were having problems or troubles

41:56Dora would take him in and so when he

42:00didn't come home on that Saturday

42:02evening after he was supposed to be out

42:04at the mall Dora

42:07of course panicked and she called the

42:09Thunder Bay police

42:11she called to say my my nephew hasn't

42:14come home I'm really worried and the

42:17person who answered the phone told her

42:19not to worry he said don't worry about

42:22it he's probably just out there partying

42:24like all the other native kids and then

42:26he hung the phone up so what did Dora do

42:29Dora got into her car into her minivan

42:32with her husband Tom and they started to

42:34drive around the streets of Thunder Bay

42:37lots of First Nations people started to

42:40help them and from Casablanca lake first

42:43nation to remember I was telling you is

42:44about 600 kilometres away well his mom

42:46Stella came down his dad came down

42:48members of the community came down and

42:50also members from other northern

42:52communities came down because that's

42:53what you do in the north of one of your

42:55own goes missing everybody comes in

42:57everybody starts looking and so

42:59indigenous people were out looking for

43:00Jethro for six days it took six days for

43:04the Thunder Bay police to respond and

43:06start looking for a missing 15 year old

43:07boy Kern Strang remember I was telling

43:12you about him being from pecans you come

43:14and the significance of that about what

43:18he was dealing with at home with the

43:20high suicide rate that was going on at

43:22the moment and pecans youcome pecans

43:24come at that time too had also lost its

43:26elementary school it that was a that was

43:30actually a really a big deal because the

43:33elementary school was a place where the

43:34kids all felt safe and they had they

43:35loved to be there and it sadly it burned

43:39to the ground and so that was no longer

43:40there anymore so the kids had to go to

43:42school and portables there was a lot

43:43going on if you can to come at the time

43:45when he died and I should also tell you

43:48too that there is no suggestion

43:50whatsoever that any of the sudden fall

43:52and feathers committed suicide there is

43:54absolutely no medical evidence that says

43:56any of that as I talk about them I will

43:59tell you that five of the seven fallen

44:02feathers five of the boys their bodies

44:06were all found in the waters surrounding

44:08Thunder Bay and the inquest into all of

44:11the sevens deaths never heard exactly

44:15how it was there's no evidence brought

44:18forward how it was the boys got from the

44:21riverbank into the water

44:24nothing all official cases though the

44:28the deaths were determined that they had

44:31drowned was cause of death and most of

44:33them but again how do they get from

44:35point A to point B that's a question and

44:38you'll also notice too that a lot of the

44:39kids that were found in the water they

44:41died late October November September

44:46anybody knows anything about Thunder Bay

44:48nose you don't go swimming in October or

44:50November and a lot of these kids - you

44:53should know they come from communities

44:55and they know all about water they know

44:57how to swim you don't often hear about

44:59drownings of kids by the water inside

45:03the First Nations communities but yet

45:05you do in Thunder Bay Paul pana cheese

45:10was 21 he was the oldest boy it's Paul

45:17right there and he he was 21 and still

45:23trying to get a high school education

45:25imagine he'd been to 10 different

45:27boarding houses ten different ones you

45:29know cuz sometimes you don't really

45:30match up with someone right like you

45:32know if you get you have to go to a

45:34boarding house sometimes the parents it

45:36doesn't go very well or you just there's

45:38some Missha personalities and you have

45:40to sort of move on or you don't like it

45:42there one of the boarding houses though

45:44that he had been in oh thank you 5

45:46minute when did the boarding houses that

45:49he had been in if you didn't make it

45:51home for dinner on time they put locks

45:54on all the cupboards so the kids

45:56couldn't get any anything to eat

45:59imagine a growing teenage boy not being

46:02able to get anything to eat and you

46:03should also know too that a lot of these

46:05kids they come from families that

46:07there's not a lot of extra money nobody

46:09had an extra 20 or 40 or $50 hang your

46:11own in their pocket so they could go

46:13walk the subway and get a sandwich or

46:14something like this I mean having a

46:17cellphone would be a luxury especially

46:19at this time so you have to keep all

46:22that in context - and remember how he

46:24told you - that I would talk a little

46:26bit more about Paul I swear I'll be fast

46:28about this but it's a it's important

46:31that you know a little bit more about

46:32him because Paul died on his mom's

46:34kitchen floor because his mom Marianne

46:37panitch

46:38she said you know what after ten

46:41different boarding houses in the factory

46:4321 I'm gonna move to Thunder Bay and I'm

46:45gonna rent a house and you're gonna get

46:46your high school education and so that's

46:48what she did she rented a house and she

46:51was looking after him and she also had

46:53one other boarder with them and on the

46:57night that Paul passed he had he had

47:01gone out for a little bit he had gone to

47:02a party with his friend Sean wavy and he

47:07didn't stay long maybe about an hour

47:08then he came back home he was around

47:11midnight Marianne was asleep upstairs

47:13and she heard a bang bang bang at the

47:14front door so she ran down the stairs

47:17and she opened the door and there was

47:18Paul and he said to her I'm home mom I'm

47:22home so she said okay come on in

47:25he came in she went back to bed and she

47:30could hear him rustling around in the

47:31kitchen he was making a package actually

47:34of mr. noodles on the stove so he was

47:37cooking she could hear him on the phone

47:39she was talking to a friend then he hung

47:42up and then he she heard a thud so she

47:45ran downstairs and then she saw Paul

47:48lying on the kitchen floor she ran and

47:52she got a pillow and she put a pillow

47:55underneath Paul's head because she

47:57thought Paul had just passed out or gone

47:59to sleep and she tried to wake him and

48:01she said to him get up get up Paul if

48:04you want to if you want to sleep go

48:06upstairs to go to the couch to your bed

48:08sleep he didn't respond so she went she

48:13got the other boarder who was asleep in

48:14his room

48:15Ritchie and she said come so he came and

48:19then he said to her call 9-1-1 so she

48:23did 911 came and took Paul the way that

48:28was the last that she saw of her son and

48:30it's important that you know as we talk

48:33again about the determinants of health

48:34and it's important you know as health

48:36care providers that nobody called

48:38Marianne to tell her how her son died no

48:42one not a doctor not a coroner not a

48:45police officer nobody she didn't know

48:48how he passed

48:51she waited for nine years she waited for

48:54nine years till the start at the inquest

48:56into the death of seven students to find

48:58out how her son died and when she was

49:03there to get the news what happened

49:05guess what she was told

49:08we have no idea toxicology report showed

49:12nothing out of ordinary in his system

49:15they had no idea how he had passed and

49:18of course at that point everything had

49:20been destroyed because you know

49:21coroner's and as you guys know you keep

49:23things for a certain amount of time and

49:24then you you don't keep them anymore and

49:26the so the time period had elapsed and

49:29they said to her you know you should get

49:30tested for a genetic abnormality because

49:32sometimes you know people as you know

49:34healthy young men can just sort of drop

49:37dead and they said go get tested so her

49:40whole family did for genetic heart

49:41abnormality and guess what they found

49:45absolutely nothing so she still has no

49:49answers at all as to how her son died

49:52Robyn Harper's the other student who

49:55died at home she passed away in her

49:58boarding home she had been out drinking

50:00that night she had only been in Thunder

50:02Bay for about three or four days she was

50:04not used to alcohol and so she drank far

50:06too much and what happened was she has

50:08fixated on her own vomit in the actually

50:11in the hallway of her boarding house and

50:13the the inquest into her death heard

50:16that it was not wise to take her home

50:19and just to leave her in the the doorway

50:21of her boarding home she should have

50:23been taken to the hospital because she

50:24was having alcohol poisoning and the

50:28thought is is that if that would have

50:29happened she would have lived Reggie

50:33Bush she remember I was telling you a

50:34little bit at the beginning of our talk

50:35about him his body was found November

50:401st in the McIntyre River and his his

50:42case is also really important for you to

50:44know because his mum wrote a king she

50:48did something really interesting when

50:51they called an inquest into Reggie

50:53Bush's death and that was after the

50:54fighting of nish Nobby a ski nation

50:56after the the probing and the constant

50:58you need to call an inquest into what's

51:00happening in to Thunder Bay the kids and

51:02Thunder Bay are dying when they come

51:03here to go to school we need help in

51:05what's going on that was the message

51:08coming from indigenous leaders at the

51:10time and the message back to them was

51:12okay after years seven years we will

51:15give you one inquest into one death and

51:17that was in Reggie Bush's death well

51:20Rhoda King Reggie's mom said uh-uh I

51:25don't think so

51:27she's interesting because you know her

51:29first language is it was a boy and so

51:32she was she wanted to know who's on the

51:37jury of this inquest if you're going to

51:38be holding an inquest into my son's

51:40death where are the indigenous people

51:43her question started a challenge in

51:46Northern Ontario that stopped the court

51:49systems for a long time wasn't just her

51:53challenge oh there were other families

51:55the families of Marlene Pierre asking

51:57the same questions

51:58where are the indigenous members of the

52:00jury that are going to be listening to

52:02our stories so what happened was after

52:04another court challenge for about five

52:07years in Northern Ontario many of the

52:10cases ground to a halt until the

52:12question of juries and the jury roll

52:14system was looked at and that is really

52:17sort of indicative to of what's been

52:19happening for so long in Northern

52:22Ontario but it's also indicative to

52:23what's been happening all over the

52:24country kylemore so he was 17 years old

52:30he was from keyway when first nation to

52:33remember I was telling you about him he

52:36is the grandson of Norville more so one

52:40of the most famous painters whichaway

52:43painters ever

52:46that's Kyle and Kyle was also a painter

52:49there's a good story about Kyle Kyle's

52:52father is Christian more so and

52:55Christian actually was holding right

52:57here in Ottawa they held he held a an

53:00art show and he said well if you're

53:02gonna display my art I want my son

53:03Kyle's art shown as well and so both of

53:06them had art shown at a gallery here in

53:08Ottawa and on that night Kyle sold more

53:13paintings and his father

53:15that's his dad Christian more so you

53:18know I often say that many hands wrote

53:20this book it wasn't just me there was

53:23there was many of us that wrote this

53:24book together and Christian very much

53:27helped Christian gave gave me the title

53:31seven fallen feathers because he was

53:33sick and tired of hearing the media he

53:35was sick and tired of hearing

53:36politicians he was sick and tired of

53:37everybody saying seven dead students

53:39over and over again they weren't just

53:41seven dead students they were each child

53:43they were loved by their families and

53:45their communities they were they were

53:47kids that had their own lives they were

53:49the seven fallen feathers and after the

53:53inquest into the death of the seven kids

53:55which took eight months and wrapped up

53:57at the end of June 2016 there was no

54:03closure for Christian he remembers the

54:06last night of the inquest he thought

54:08that maybe there would be something

54:09maybe after 145 recommendations and

54:12after hearing all of it there would be

54:13something for him and there was just

54:15nothing so what he did was he got up and

54:17he started to paint and he painted for

54:20three days straight and this is what he

54:22painted it's a wreck home to his son his

54:26son is on the top right corner he's the

54:30tallest of the seven fallen feathers and

54:32this is our journey to the afterlife

54:35Robin is the only girl and so she's

54:37given a place of prominence she's got

54:39the looks like yellow shoulder pads and

54:41you can see that they're all traveling

54:44up towards the drum they're all

54:45traveling to the afterlife and a little

54:47the little red figures that are there

54:50waiting for them those are their elders

54:52that have passed before them and so

54:54there is Norval more so waiting for his

54:56grandson right there in the top right

54:58and the last students that I was I was

55:06telling you about was Jordan and there

55:08he is

55:08he was a goalie just like Daniel Bertie

55:12Stan's son Jordan was a really talented

55:15Goldie and there he is he's got this

55:18silver shirt on and the Maple Leafs cap

55:20that's gray in backwards in the front

55:21row and that's Jordans mom Bernice Jacob

55:27and that's the last day of the

55:29quest into their deaths after the 145

55:31recommendations came out and that's

55:34Jordans grandma actually right beside

55:36her Beulah

55:39Springs me to Thunder Bay today and I

55:41know I've probably gone over my five

55:43minutes but I will just quickly wrap up

55:46I told you about the inquest and the

55:50recommendations I also told you that one

55:52of the recommendations one of the chief

55:53recommendations was to having schools

55:55for all the children that need them in

55:57their own communities again that is one

55:59of the TRC recommendations as well and

56:01chief of course among all the

56:03recommendations was the full

56:04implementation of Jordan's principle no

56:07more excuses the full implementation of

56:09those principles for all of our kids

56:12also - at the end of the inquest the

56:17government of Ontario actually stepped

56:19in and they sent something called the

56:22office of the Independent Police Review

56:24director which is an offshoot of the

56:26Ministry of the Attorney General in to

56:28investigate the Thunder Bay police force

56:30and the two their handling of indigenous

56:32death and disappearance cases they were

56:35looking for cases of systemic racism and

56:38it goes back several decades as a result

56:41of that there are 30 death

56:42investigations that are being reviewed

56:4430 death investigations most of them are

56:47indigenous a few of them are not because

56:49they have to get non-indigenous people

56:51look at the notes of how police officers

56:53handled those cases compare them how

56:55they handled the cases of indigenous

56:58people and also part of that are nine

57:01cases another nine cases of murdered and

57:04missing indigenous women and girls and

57:08you should also know that the Thunder

57:09Bay Police Service Board you know about

57:13police service boards their job is to

57:15police the police they are also being

57:17investigated and they are being

57:19investigated right now by Senator Murray

57:22Sinclair and if that sort of doesn't

57:25tell you the breadth and the scope of

57:27what's been going on in Thunder Bay I

57:28don't know what will and I wish I could

57:32tell you too that there was a happy

57:33ending to the story but there's not i

57:37often sort of tell people that this is a

57:40history of now it's a history of our

57:42past

57:42this is also the history of what we're

57:44facing now and it's also the history of

57:46our future I thought I was finished

57:49writing some phone feathers and then on

57:52May 6 I discovered I wasn't

57:55I had to write an epilogue because on

57:57May 6th at night a Saturday night two

57:59more two more kids went missing tami

58:03quiche she was 17 from North Kerala

58:05Chris nation

58:06Josiah beg from ki he also went missing

58:10and within two weeks both of their

58:12bodies would be found in the McIntyre

58:14river system this is um we had a

58:20memorial for Robin Harper just recently

58:23in January and that's Norma keechak

58:26Norma Tkaczyk is head of DFC Dennis

58:29Franklin Cromartie High School that's

58:35poplar Hill First Nation poplar Hill

58:38First Nation is where Ricky Strang and

58:41his brother Reggie bushier from and so

58:45I'm gonna end to you tonight with

58:48thinking please don't be paralyzed by

58:49all the things that I said please don't

58:51think that you can't sort of help and be

58:53the change because honestly it's going

58:55to be up to all of us to rewrite

58:57everything that has happened I mean if

59:00we are really serious about going

59:01forward with reconciliation we have to

59:04acknowledge that there are basic human

59:06rights that need to be brought up to

59:08speed in our indigenous communities

59:10basic human rights like having an

59:12education for every single child in this

59:14country that's under the age of 18 and I

59:16don't think that we will achieve

59:18reconciliation until we bring these

59:20basic things up things like clean water

59:22for everybody things like medical care

59:25for everybody that is equal not patched

59:28in different different ways you guys are

59:32the change and you're the ones that have

59:34to write this happy ending and I hope

59:37that you do Jimmy which for having me

59:39here today

59:41[Applause]

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