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0:01A war is underway between two economic
0:04systems, globalism and nationalism. And
0:07the prize is American sovereignty. On
0:10one side, you've got unelected offshore
0:13networks, global banks, billionaire
0:15elites, Brussels bureaucrats, the city
0:17of London, all vying to manage our
0:20trade, our currency, and our future. On
0:23the other hand, a sovereign nation that
0:25builds its own products, secures its own
0:28borders, and governs itself. And every
0:31headline you see, Canada abruptly
0:34walking out of trade talks. Scott Besson
0:36pursuing Iranian Revolutionary Guard
0:38funds into the British Virgin Islands.
0:40Europe extending the conflict in Ukraine
0:43while Trump's emissaries back channel
0:45peace talks with Putin. Market pressures
0:47on US bonds, the race for AI dominance.
0:50These are not isolated crises. They're
0:53calculated moves on a single chessboard
0:56directed against the American Republic.
0:58And yet half the country doesn't even
1:01realize the game's a foot. And instead
1:04of holding the line, they're tackling
1:06our own quarterback. My guests recognize
1:09this conflict long before it hit the
1:11mainstream. Barbara Boyd and Susan
1:13Kokinda, bestselling authors, lauded
1:15political pundits, and key analysts
1:17behind Prometheian action, join us today
1:20to identify who the players are, break
1:23down their playbook, and detail how we
1:26fight back. And with voters heading to
1:28the polls in just 7 weeks, the stakes
1:30couldn't be higher. By the end of this
1:32hour, you're going to know who's pulling
1:34the levers and what you have to do
1:37before November. If you're liking the
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1:45Here we go. [music]
1:49>> Keeping it real.
1:49>> Keeping it real with Jillian Michaels.
1:51>> Okay guys, you have said we're in a war,
1:56not the war in Iran. That is a small
1:58part of a much bigger war.
2:02And you have said this election is going
2:05to determine the fate of the republic.
2:07The target of of this war is the minds
2:10of the US population.
2:12My question though is to achieve what
2:16endgame?
2:19>> Well, there's our endgame and then
2:21there's the other side's endgame. Uh our
2:24endgame is to completely restore the
2:27intention of our founding fathers who
2:30created a sovereign republic not just
2:33politically. I mean we celebrated that I
2:36think beautifully on July 4th on the
2:38250th anniversary. The part that people
2:42don't as consciously understand is that
2:45we established ourselves as a sovereign
2:48economic republic. That is the American
2:51system which almost nobody has heard
2:53about in the last hundred years until we
2:55and now more importantly some of the
2:57Trump people are talking about it is a
2:59system where the government plays a
3:01positive role in protecting your ability
3:04to be economically independent to
3:06produce and to constantly lift up your
3:08population. That's what's at stake in
3:11this midterm because we have not
3:13practiced the American system for the
3:15better part of a hundred years. uh we've
3:18we've been under what you could call
3:20globalism or finance capitalism whatever
3:23term I mean we give it its brand name
3:25which is the British system but people
3:27today are more familiar with the idea of
3:29globalism and that's what's at stake in
3:31this in this midterm because this
3:34administration is fully committed to
3:37pulling us out of all aspects of this
3:39globalist system and reestablishing the
3:42American system of economy that's what's
3:44at stake this is big
3:46>> okay
3:47>> this is a fight that goes back 250
3:49years. And sort of the phase that we're
3:51in right now, you can really date back
3:54through half of our nation's history. In
3:561901, the last American system
3:58president, William McKinley, got
4:00assassinated. That was literally halfway
4:03between our founding and today. And for
4:06most of this last 125 years, we've been
4:10relatively defenseless in terms of
4:13knowing what kind of economic tools we
4:16have to defend our economy and our
4:19economic sovereignty. And that's what's
4:22at stake.
4:22>> Okay. Globalism versus nationalism.
4:26Nationalism is what you just described,
4:28right? What Trump is doing. America
4:30first. And you're seeing this spread
4:32throughout the Western world.
4:35So first question is
4:38define globalism for us and then I want
4:41to understand why are people on the left
4:45globalists and people on the right
4:47nationalists. Why is this a right left
4:50argument? I don't understand that.
4:52>> It's a question of of people who believe
4:54in sovereignty
4:56uh versus people who believe in a world
4:58government. And you can document what
5:02began after, you know, the big break was
5:04after World War I where the elites
5:08actually decided, hey, how are we going
5:10to continue to control the population
5:13when it's growing? Okay. And when all of
5:16these nations out there, particularly in
5:18the developing sector of the third
5:19world, think, you know, they have a
5:21right to development as opposed to us
5:24actually being able to loot them. So
5:26they set up a whole kind of idea uh if
5:30you just go back and look at this
5:31character uh you know uh Litman okay
5:36>> who you know decided that people need
5:39propaganda by the elites to actually
5:42create the basis by which the big
5:45bankers and the old families of Europe
5:48what we call the oligarchy could
5:50actually continue to control people not
5:52through force of arms.
5:54All right. That wasn't what they said.
5:56They said what we need to do is figure
5:59out how to actually have a propaganda
6:02apparatus run by the foundations and the
6:05elites which allow us to subvert any
6:09notion that people come back to this
6:11idea that nations are sovereign and they
6:13have a right to absolute development.
6:16And most of them are really like you
6:19know old school what we call Malthusians
6:22that that is that they think that
6:24population shouldn't grow that the
6:28resources in nature are completely
6:30limited uh and that the way that they
6:33can exert control is by making sure they
6:36keep it that way. Um, the American
6:39system view on the other hand is, oh no,
6:42hey, human beings are inherently
6:44creative. Screw you. Um, and we can
6:47redefine our resources by actually
6:50figuring them out scientifically and
6:53technologically. And that's what we're
6:55going to do. That's the American way as
6:57as has sort of been that way throughout
7:00our history. frontiersmen. All right.
7:02The people who actually conquer new
7:04frontiers. The people who actually think
7:06that the world is a developing place and
7:09we should be happy about that. Not
7:11trying to constrain it so that our
7:13system can control everything. Uh
7:16there's whole books which document this
7:18which people can read like um Carol
7:20Quigley uh who was a guy who actually
7:23got inside of this British imperial
7:26network into their secret papers and
7:29said oh my god what I discovered is
7:31these financeers
7:33actually want to control the whole world
7:36>> and they're going to do it by trying to
7:38manufacture consent
7:41to their perceptions about what reality
7:44is. they're going to try and control the
7:46human mind. All right? And you know in
7:49many respects if you look at the World
7:51Economic Forum as a recent example of
7:55this kind of phenomenon the whole you
7:57know 2030 issue and everything that
8:00people are are familiar with. This is
8:02just the latest round of this particular
8:05form of you know the old families of
8:08Europe, the families of Wall Street, the
8:10actual uh nasty elites. Not all
8:13billionaires are bad as opposed to
8:15Bernie Sanders. Okay. Some of them are
8:18actually entrepreneurs who really want
8:20to put their money with growth and
8:22others are just completely backward like
8:25taking us back to the stone age because
8:27that's what they're comfortable with and
8:29it scares them. Uh this whole idea of
8:33scientific and technological progress.
8:35So they use these big fear campaigns
8:38like the one they're doing around AI
8:40right now.
8:41>> I have so many questions for you about
8:43that. And it's like by 2030 there's that
8:45number again.
8:47Everything's going to go to hell in a
8:48hand basket and humanity is going to
8:50end. I'm like, this feels like a sigh
8:53up. Okay, I'm sorry. I'm so excited to
8:55talk to you. Please go. Please, I'm
8:56quiet. Go, go, go. I'll wait.
8:58>> No, no, no. That's exactly You said the
9:00you said the magic word scop. Okay, they
9:03developed all of this by doing like
9:05after World War II, you know, and after
9:08coming through the war, they had this
9:10thing called the Tavistock Institute. uh
9:13and we've developed what that is in our
9:15in our literature. But you know, the
9:17whole idea was let's figure out how we
9:19can control people. Let's go out and
9:21have all these sociologists and
9:23anthropologists and people like Margaret
9:26me go out and profile people. And now
9:29that and then we'll figure out what they
9:31really like, what they don't like, and
9:33we'll freeze it right there. All right?
9:35Because that's kind of creates a
9:37consensus of what people will do. Donald
9:40Trump on the other hand says, what does
9:43he do all the time? What does he say?
9:45Think outside the box. Okay, don't get
9:50boxed in by current reality. Think about
9:53the future. And that's the American
9:55system in a nutshell. You know,
9:58basically the idea that we need to
10:00create a future right now that's going
10:02to be better for the people who come
10:04after us. Then we're going to experience
10:06ourselves. Okay? and and we need to have
10:09both feet uh in a certain way in that
10:12future because that's the only way an
10:14economy when you actually find out about
10:16it actually grows. If you're stuck like
10:19Mus in a present, you know, kind of of
10:23economy and you're not out there
10:24building things constantly, you're going
10:28to you will run out of resources. That
10:30will happen. Okay. Um but if you're in
10:33this other dynamic which you know Trump
10:36is in the American system people were in
10:39grow grow build
10:42new ideas new ways of thinking
10:44excitement intellectual creativity which
10:47is what mankind is actually all about.
10:49We're supposed to if you go back to
10:51Genesis it says go forth multiply and
10:54subdue the earth. All right, that sort
10:58of puts it in a nutshell in terms of the
11:01difference with this globalist kind of
11:04of, you know, freak show.
11:07>> Oh my gosh, the fact that you've just
11:08made that biblical is absolutely
11:10mind-blowing. Before I get to the AI
11:15stuff,
11:16I understand this concept of globalists,
11:19but I tend to think of it as like Wall
11:20Street and the big banks and a handful
11:23of nefarious
11:26billionaire elitists, you know, the
11:27Epstein of the world. But you guys look
11:29at this and you talk about the British
11:31Empire and this is where somebody like
11:34me is going, the British, aren't they
11:38our buddies? Aren't they just this tiny
11:39little country now? Aren't those the the
11:41good guys? Like, what do you mean they
11:43don't have any power? I I don't
11:44understand. Can Can you explain how
11:48they're sort of the orchestrators, if
11:51you will, of the war that we're fighting
11:54with? It seems like Iran, it seems like
11:56Canada, it seems like AI in general. It
11:59seems like socialists.
12:02What is this lens that you're talking
12:04about? Or or what is this this greater
12:06villain with the with the British
12:07Empire? I think of them as being anemic
12:09for for years.
12:12>> Well, they do look pretty sclerotic
12:13right now. There's no [laughter] doubt.
12:16But I mean it it's the the critical
12:18thing for people to think about is we're
12:20talking about a system.
12:21>> Okay. Now the system happens to be
12:23squatting in the city of London and it
12:26has a lot of its political apparatus
12:29>> still embedded in the monarchy and six
12:33and institutions that were set up
12:36especially institutions that were set up
12:38after World War I like Barbara was
12:40discussing to manage our perceptions
12:42like this group called Chattam House
12:44which is the mother to the Council on
12:46Foreign Relations here in the United
12:48States. So they the these institutions
12:50go back in many cases over a hundred
12:52years. Um but but it's to do what? It's
12:56to pro preserve the system. Got it.
12:58>> What did we fight the American
13:00Revolution against? The British imperial
13:03system. It included a monarchy, but it
13:06also included a very powerful central
13:08bank, the Bank of England. And it
13:11included these very powerful companies
13:13like the British East India Company
13:15which by the way had its own army which
13:17I think at one point was bigger than the
13:19British army. Uh but private these
13:21private institutions that's the imperial
13:24system protects powerful private
13:27financial and economic forces.
13:30>> Okay,
13:30>> which is why it doesn't like sovereign
13:32nations.
13:33>> And and you know Britain right now is
13:35not a sovereign nation. I mean these
13:37poor people there are suffering more
13:39than anybody right
13:41>> but and that's what why they were so
13:43terrified of what we created again as I
13:46say not just political independence but
13:48we set up institutions where we figured
13:50out how to protect ourselves
13:52>> from these powerful private financial
13:54forces. Now they ate away at us. So in
13:581913 we adopted a private central bank
14:01called the Federal Reserve.
14:02>> Right? So we have a you know we have
14:05institutions right now that we are
14:07operating under that that were set up to
14:11enforce this British imperial system or
14:14a national police force like the FBI. I
14:16mean that was directly modeled on you
14:19know British domestic police forces and
14:21so on. And you under Donald Trump you
14:24know we've sort of people have gotten a
14:26little more clarity in terms of gee
14:28maybe these aren't the greatest
14:29institutions in the world.
14:32There's a lot of patriotic FBI agents
14:34out there and you know it's got a good
14:35leadership right now but we we saw the
14:38role that it played for example in
14:39Russia Russia Russia.
14:41>> Yes. Yes. With that fake steel dossier.
14:44Absolutely. And he was MI6 right.
14:49and they used all these institut I mean
14:51the CIA has patriots in it but the CIA
14:54has been a conduit for this kind of
14:57garbage uh pretty much since it was
14:59established in the post-war period. Um
15:02so they they they've quietly set up
15:05institutions which then enforce
15:08the the power that these private
15:11interests have
15:13over the way your national economy
15:16works. And I'll give you one good
15:18example. Um, health care, okay, which is
15:21a complete disaster. Everybody knows it.
15:24You know, under big big pharma, big
15:27insurance and so on, we don't have
15:28health care. Uh, we just pay exorbitant
15:31prices, you know, and get sicker, right?
15:33>> We know this part well, this part of
15:35>> our our [laughter]
15:36junior is is, you know, fighting a
15:38titanic battle to turn that around. But
15:40where did this come from? go back to 19
15:44uh73
15:46which is when we passed the law which
15:48established HMOs
15:50which began to give these insurance
15:53companies control over medical
15:56decisionmaking
15:57>> right
15:58>> we didn't have that prior to 1973
16:01you just had a personal you know blue
16:03cross blue shield plan like your auto
16:05insurance and you went to your doctor he
16:08treated you as he thought you needed to
16:10be treated you submitted the claim came
16:12to the insurance company and they paid
16:14you whatever portion back you know you
16:16were contracted to get back. They were
16:18not telling your doctor how to treat you
16:21so that they could make more money,
16:24right? That that's the British system.
16:26That's how they that's how they do it.
16:29And you look at one of the things Trump
16:30is doing right now, you know, which
16:33would literally undo
16:35o over 50 years of this this looting of
16:39our health care system and our people
16:41saying we should stop giving the money
16:43to the insurance companies and the
16:45[laughter] HMOs. We should just give it
16:47to the people,
16:48>> right? And maybe the people could go
16:50find maybe we'd have independent
16:52practitioners again, you know, who are
16:54not being gobbled up by this horrible
16:56HMO system where you could actually go
16:59to a doctor who wants to treat you as he
17:01thinks best, right? But that's just
17:03that's just a very tangible example of
17:07how the British system works where you
17:10you know, you think it's a free market,
17:13you know, free enterprise and it has,
17:15you know, this has nothing to do with
17:16free anything. This is concentrating
17:19power in the bigs. Big pharma, big
17:22insurance, big egg, big tech to a
17:26certain degree. Um, you know, all of the
17:28bigs uh have cartilized sections of our
17:32economy where the where that sector of
17:35the economy is no longer serving its
17:37original purpose. What's the purpose of
17:39health care? To make you healthy, right?
17:41Well, that has not been the case for a
17:43half a century. The purpose of this
17:45system is to funnel money to the cartel.
17:48What should be the purpose of
17:49agriculture?
17:50>> To produce cheap, healthy, abundant food
17:54for your population. My god, you have
17:56independent family farmers out there
17:59hanging on for dear life because they
18:01would like to do that, but the system
18:04doesn't let them because it's
18:05cartilized. And of course, you know,
18:07Glenn Beck recently blew the whistle on
18:09that by explaining to Donald Trump how
18:12the meat packing cartels work. And what
18:14did Trump do? Three days later signs an
18:16executive order to allow independent
18:18ranchers to process their own meat.
18:21Right? You know, just they're such
18:23simple steps, but we've become so
18:25acclimated to the way that this system
18:28is set up that you don't even notice
18:30that squatting on top of all of it are
18:33these powerful private financial
18:35interests because for the past decades,
18:38you've been indoctrinated into thinking
18:40the enemy is the government.
18:43Now, the enemy has been a partner to
18:45this, but that's all. And the enemy
18:48could be your part. I mean, the
18:50government could be your partner, which
18:52is what Donald Trump is trying to do.
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20:02to support the show. I say this when it
20:05comes to regulating big egg, big food,
20:08big pharma, big insurance. and I might
20:11be on a right leaning media channel and
20:14they're like, "Well, we don't want a
20:16nanny state." I'm like, "No, you don't
20:17understand.
20:19It's okay to not allow these companies
20:22to put poison on or in your food, but
20:26immediately we don't want government
20:28involved." I'm like, "But they're
20:29utilizing government against us. Can't
20:33you see that?" But the narrative is so
20:36powerful in particular on the right. ah
20:38we don't want them to get involved and
20:40it it almost is weaponized against it is
20:44weaponized against the people. I look at
20:47these different fights that we are
20:48engaged in, whether it's trade wars with
20:51Canada, whether it is what is now going
20:55on in AI with only the Democrats coming
20:58out and saying this is an existential
21:00threat, whether what's what's going on
21:02with the straight of hormuz all of these
21:04different battles that Trump is waging.
21:07And it's clear to me that there is one
21:10puppet master pulling the strings on all
21:12of them. But the one that has completely
21:15confounded me is Russia and Ukraine. So
21:19I bring this up because all of a sudden
21:21this has resurfaced. And for someone
21:23like me, you're going, "Oh, okay. Well,
21:24it's resurfaced because we've got this
21:26problem with this trade of Hormuz. We
21:27need Russian oil. We need Russian gas.
21:30Of course, we're going to go there and
21:31see if we can get get their resources
21:33back into the market to make things
21:35better." But then you guys talked about
21:37how Carney is joining with the EU and
21:42the EU may send troops to support
21:44Ukraine.
21:46And I'm thinking, isn't that absolutely
21:49antithetical to what we want? Would that
21:52not be a World War II?
21:55What am I not understanding or seeing
21:58here? What is going on?
22:02Well, fundamentally what's going on is
22:04Ukraine is a disaster and they're losing
22:06the war. All right? And Europe and a
22:10whole faction of the United States
22:13basically said, "We're going to war with
22:15Russia and we're going to do regime
22:16change in Russia." And that's what we're
22:18doing, right?
22:19>> Okay.
22:20>> But we're losing that particular thing
22:23from from that standpoint. Ukraine is a
22:26total mess. is so corrupt that a new
22:30minister every day is resigning at this
22:32point because they're in corruption
22:34scandals you know uh and you know
22:36everything you know Zalinsky and friends
22:39need a cut so uh it is a total mess and
22:44so now Europe is in revolt if you look
22:47at what the populations of Europe are
22:50saying is why are we sacrificing our
22:52entire lives for Ukraine right
22:54>> you know we don't have fuel we're
22:56standing in gas lines, you know, uh and
22:59not only that, you know, the whole thing
23:02with immigration makes living go, you
23:05know, crazy at this point in all these
23:07countries. So, if you look at the
23:09polling in the elections,
23:12>> uh the reform party is leading in the
23:15UK.
23:16>> Okay.
23:16>> Yeah.
23:17>> Uh Le Pen, the nationalist, is leading
23:19in France.
23:21>> Uh Merittz may very well be on a
23:24lifeline in Germany. He may be just gone
23:27in a couple weeks because why? Two
23:30things. China has completely flooded
23:33Germany with cars. They don't have any
23:35trade protections because they're free
23:37traders. All right. So, the German
23:39automobile industry has been driven
23:42almost out of existence in the last year
23:44or so. All right. That is the motor of
23:48the entire European economy is Germany.
23:51All right.
23:52>> Okay. If Germany goes kaput, which is
23:55kind of what's happening, then all the
23:58things all these people have talked
24:00about doing turn out to be in the
24:02population's mind just ridiculous
24:05genocidal fantasies.
24:07>> Got it?
24:07>> And they're going to revolt. So now
24:10what's happening is these leaders have
24:12to are in a kind of put up or shut up uh
24:15position. And Carney is coming in there
24:18and he's saying, "Well, you can have
24:20Canada." [laughter]
24:25>> Take my wife, please. [laughter]
24:27>> And Canada, CANADA BASICALLY SAYS, "WHAT
24:30IS HE TALKING ABOUT?" And Ursa Nanoline
24:32says, "We are willing to offer you the
24:35first associate membership in the EU,
24:37which you did yesterday." All right. The
24:40reason is really simple that if you add
24:43it's this fantasy. It's not real. It's a
24:46fantasy about that. You know, Carney
24:49laid out a couple months ago at at the
24:52Munich Security Forum and he said the
24:54middle powers of the world. Now you
24:56think about that. What are we talking
24:57about? We talking about J.R. Tolken or
24:59something? I mean, [laughter] we the
25:01middle powers of the world. What the
25:03hell is he talking about? And I had to
25:06laugh yesterday because even Jam Jamie
25:08Diamond, you know, the head of JP Morgan
25:12Chase, called him out. He said, you
25:15know, what is he talking about?
25:16>> Oh my gosh.
25:17>> He says, you know, listen, uh, the
25:20middle powers, they all did that once.
25:23It's already been done. It's called
25:24Europe. It's called the EU. The middle
25:26powers already got together. And you
25:29know what? The EU used to be 90% of US
25:34GDP. You know what it is now? 70% and
25:38falling.
25:39>> Wow.
25:40>> All right.
25:40>> Wow. So, so you know that's that's you
25:44know all of this is really part and
25:47parcel of breaking apart this whole
25:50imperial system which is what Trump is
25:53determined to do and people don't get it
25:55here because they say how does this
25:57affect how does this affect me
26:00>> you know h how why why is the straight
26:02of four moves actually affect me well do
26:05you know how your oil and gas price gets
26:07set it's not set by the United states is
26:11set in the city of London in the in
26:14what's called the you know the trade
26:16commodity trade all of that stuff. Okay.
26:19>> I did not know that.
26:20>> And on top of it you know we keep
26:23pointing out the administration keeps
26:25pointing out you know where the problem
26:26is with gas really under the so-called
26:30Green New Deal we shut down all of our
26:33refining capacity in the United States.
26:37So the supply is there. There's lots of
26:40oil and gas, but we don't have the
26:42capacity to refine it. Why do you think
26:44Trump said, "Stop hitting Russian, you
26:47know, refineries because they're the
26:50second in the world to us to refine
26:52diesel."
26:53>> Got it.
26:54>> All right. And you wipe that out, you're
26:56attacking world supply. So, it really is
26:58a worldwide battle at this point, which
27:01has been joined by the administration,
27:04and they're firing back with everything
27:06they have going into the midterms. the
27:08AI hoax is just the latest, you know,
27:11you know, sort of gun gun battle in that
27:14battle, so to speak.
27:15>> Let's talk about that for a second
27:17because
27:19to the average person, you're going,
27:21well, AI does seem to be an existential
27:23threat. It is moving faster than we can
27:25manage. You know, Elon Musk did ask for
27:28a moratorum several years back, and he's
27:31not, you know, one of these crazy woke
27:33progressives on the left. So, it makes
27:36sense. And then, and by the way, I've
27:38had this fight with someone very close
27:40to me now for three days. I'm like,
27:42"This is a scop. I'm telling you, this
27:44is not right." And it's like, "Well,
27:46then how come the founders of Claude
27:49just came out and said, "Please, oh my
27:51god, please regulate us." And it is
27:54absolutely confounding. And you're
27:56going, "Well, China's not going to be
27:58regulated. So, how would this even work?
28:02What is happening here?" Because you've
28:04got this guy Jacob Coxin. nobody's ever
28:07heard of who had a job for six weeks in
28:09Anthropic, started his social media
28:12accounts at about the same time, quits
28:15the gig, says the world is going to come
28:17to an end, and all of the left-wing
28:20media and all of the left-wing
28:21politicians on Q amplify that message
28:25within the hour to reach 130 million
28:28people. What the hell is going on here?
28:30What is the goal?
28:32>> Well, you've you've definitely picked up
28:34on the op. Yes, but I can't get to the
28:37bottom of it. I can't I can't figure it
28:39out.
28:40>> I mean, they're they're playing on
28:42people's fear of obviously, you know, a
28:45a very new and and to many people almost
28:49magical kind of technology,
28:51>> right?
28:52>> Um but what what people have to
28:54understand is twofold. Uh number one,
28:57the the Trump administration is I think
29:00very clear about the promise and the
29:02dangers and the need to have the
29:05appropriate kinds of safeguards in this.
29:08when you look a little bit more deeply
29:09at anthropic uh Claude and how all this
29:12thing is playing out and you pull the
29:14curtain back on some of the legislation
29:16that's been introduced in Britain and
29:19then sister legislation in the United
29:21States written or consulted but with a
29:24British group that with Bernie Saunders
29:27Sanders recent legislation
29:29>> when you look at the legislation you see
29:31there's a kind of carve out you're going
29:34to regulate everybody but anthropic and
29:36the other big on.
29:38That's that's that's basically the hoax.
29:40>> Oh my god, nobody's talking about this
29:43and I couldn't find it and I'm digging
29:46and I'm trying to figure that out and
29:47I'm thinking this sounds just like Bill
29:50Gates with the pandemic.
29:52>> And by the way, just a month ago, Bill
29:55Gates came out and went, "Oh my god,
29:56I've changed my mind. It's
29:58>> Robots are coming." [laughter]
30:00>> I saw that.
30:01>> God, that's it. That's the game. The
30:04carve out. Yeah. And and world
30:08government. Um
30:09>> elaborate elaborate. Well, because what
30:12they're what what uh Dario from from
30:15Anthropic is saying um when you look at
30:18this group in Britain which is called
30:20Control AI and they're the one they they
30:22they boast that for the last year
30:24they've been on Capitol Hill and they've
30:26met with almost 200 congressmen.
30:28>> They wrote the British legislation. They
30:30they say they consulted on Bernie
30:32Sanders legislation. And when you look
30:34at their endgame, it's global control
30:37over AI,
30:39>> right?
30:39>> I knew it. I knew it. I knew it. But I'm
30:43like, how? What is the mechanism though?
30:46Who ends up in control of it? Obviously,
30:48this is some sort of op to put the
30:50control in the hands of a select few.
30:53Who are they? Why would Anthropic turn
30:56around and shoot themselves in the foot?
30:59Son of a gun, you guys.
31:00>> And and you know, JD said it very well.
31:02He says, "This smells a, you know, why
31:04are companies asking to be regulated?"
31:06>> If they have a problem, why don't they
31:08just throttle it themselves? They can do
31:10that.
31:10>> He said, "This, this reminds me a little
31:12bit of the Trojan horse."
31:13>> Yeah.
31:14>> So, let's, you know, oh, regulate us.
31:17Isn't that wonderful? And then you get
31:19the horse inside your walls and then you
31:21look at what's inside and it's created
31:24some kind of global. Look, it's no
31:26different than the Paris climate
31:27accords, you know, which is why which is
31:29why Trump is comparing it to the climate
31:33change hoax. I mean, that was his post.
31:35This is this is as big a host at hoax as
31:37Russia Russia Russia and climate change
31:40and that right there. But you're you
31:42were right in terms of the pandemic.
31:44>> I mean, haven't we picked up on this
31:46panic people,
31:47>> you know, deadly virus, planets going to
31:50boil over.
31:51>> Yes. um super robots taking over the
31:54world, right?
31:55>> Um you know, and haven't we, you know,
31:57listen to the experts, haven't we heard
32:00this before,
32:01>> right? While quietly seizing control and
32:05profiting off of it.
32:06>> Exactly. Exactly. Now, that doesn't mean
32:09there aren't problems, for example, with
32:11data centers. If if you put a data
32:13center in a residential neighborhood,
32:15people are going to justifiably
32:16complain. If anybody is within earshot
32:19of any noise, you know, in a residential
32:22area, people will justifiably complain
32:25if they don't produce their own energy
32:27as the president demands,
32:29>> right?
32:30>> Then people could justifiably complain.
32:32But these are all things that the
32:34administration is on. Of course, you we
32:37are a federal system. So, if you're
32:39going to complain about some of these
32:40things, maybe you should complain to
32:42your Democratic governor.
32:44>> More power in terms of what's going on
32:46than, you know, than than the federal
32:48government. Uh, but this administration
32:51understands this. That that's the one
32:52side of it. The other side is, you know,
32:55AI itself.
32:57And it's a new technology.
33:01You know, to me, it's it's no different
33:03than a gun. You can use a gun to shoot
33:06your wife or you can use a gun to
33:08protect your wife.
33:08>> Yeah.
33:09>> It ain't the gun.
33:10>> Yeah.
33:11>> So, artificial intelligence can
33:13obviously be used for evil purposes by
33:16the surveillance state. No question
33:19about that. But there is also an
33:22absolutely critical side to AI which
33:24this administration is totally focused
33:26on. Industrial AI. How AI supercharges
33:31your ability to produce.
33:33>> Oh my god. the workforce more
33:35productive.
33:36>> I see it. Oh, wow. I see what you're I
33:39see the fight now. It comes down to the
33:42same exact problem. Us being able to be
33:47sovereign and independent, right? Versus
33:50them having all the control. Oh my god.
33:54>> And you know J J D Vance said says
33:57something very interesting if you want
33:58to get a good perspective on this. the
34:01the uh all-in summit which occurred in
34:04Los Angeles over the weekend. It's all
34:06the guys from Silicon Valley who are on
34:08the Trump side of the equation and they
34:10had JD in there. They asked him, you
34:13know, what's the deal with anthropic?
34:14What do you think? Uh and typical JD
34:17since he always wants to, you know, be
34:19the good guy, he said, well, I I think,
34:21you know, they they're they're
34:22good-hearted, you know, D. But here's
34:25the question for anthropic. You're
34:27running around saying, "I just created
34:30Frankenstein."
34:31>> Uhhuh.
34:31>> All right. And and it's a cyber hacking
34:35tool. All right. Well, number one, if
34:37you created Frankenstein, why don't you
34:39just stop yourself? Okay. Second, why
34:44are you saying when people come to you
34:46and say, "You guys created a cyber
34:48hacking tool. Give me the tools to
34:51actually deal with it." Anthropic is
34:54refusing to give people the tools. All
34:57right. So it's it's the typical thing
35:00which happens whenever you have
35:02something in let's say an offensive you
35:06know capability whether it's military or
35:08anything else. The defense always wins
35:12provided you actually do the defense.
35:15And so you know basically the whole
35:17story is what's the defense to the
35:20current problem.
35:22>> And nobody's talking about that. That's
35:24all of the passion is this is a
35:27permanent problem. You know that you
35:30know we can't solve it. All right. Well,
35:32if you created it and you're a human
35:34being, you can solve it. All right?
35:36Because we're we're not a bunch of
35:38linear equations, which is what, you
35:40know, AI is. We are creative human
35:43beings. We can solve the problem.
35:45>> Um, and that's at a deeper level what
35:48what is actually kind of being played on
35:50here.
35:51>> I got it. I got it. I want to jump over
35:54for a second to Iran. The way you guys
35:58have described Scott Besson's strategy
36:02is mindboggling because I've spoken to a
36:04lot of people, most from the CIA, VDH,
36:08Victor Davis Hansen sees it exactly how
36:10you see it. But it's interesting because
36:12people who are coming from intelligence
36:13like former CIA target experts and
36:17they're like, "Ah, you're never going to
36:18be able to you're never going to be able
36:20to starve the mullers." They're just
36:21looking at this if like they're
36:22ideologically captured. There's no
36:24amount of pain they can't tolerate. But
36:27when people like yourselves explain the
36:30strategy, it actually seems like it
36:32could work because it's not really about
36:34Iran. Can you outline this for people?
36:39Well, my one of my favorite moments in
36:41the last couple of weeks uh is when
36:44Scott Bessant, who truly is the greatest
36:47Treasury Secretary since Alexander
36:49Hamilton,
36:50>> wow. [sighs and gasps]
36:51>> And we haven't had that many good ones
36:52because most of them have served Wall
36:54Street or the financial elites. This guy
36:56is serving the republic. But he did a
36:59press conference and he put the IRGC on
37:01notice. This was after he launched
37:03Operation Economic Outcast, right? Where
37:06we're drying up their financial flows.
37:08>> Okay? and says to them, "We know where
37:10your trust funds are in the British
37:13Virgin Islands." Now, there are a lot of
37:16offshore hav havens, Hong Kong, the
37:19aisle of man, all of the other Cayman
37:21Islands. I don't think it was random
37:24that Scott Bessant said the British
37:27Virgin Islands because he wanted to make
37:29very very clear. We understand how this
37:34wild west unregulated offshore banking
37:37system which was created directly by the
37:39city of London starting in the 1950s
37:42where they set up all these completely
37:44unregulated banking operations
37:46especially in the Caribbean in the
37:48Cayman Islands. He was letting he was
37:51letting not just the IRGC know because
37:54the issue of how you end this war is not
37:57just defined by inside the borders of
38:00Iran,
38:01>> right?
38:01>> The way you end this war is you cut off
38:05the lifelines that have been going in
38:08>> to the IRGC
38:10uh to this whole radical Islamic
38:12operation which you can trace back to
38:14the founding of the Muslim Brotherhood
38:16by the British in the 1920s.
38:18>> I'm sorry. Hold on. Wait. Sorry. This is
38:20that moment. Here we are. What do you
38:23mean by the British? I thought this was
38:28>> Bar is the expert on this. Take
38:30>> You're going to have to stop. I'm so
38:31sorry. You're going to have to pause and
38:32explain this to me because I thought
38:34this came out of Egypt from like a
38:38infighting Muslim situation. Oh my gosh.
38:41Okay, I'm ready. Go.
38:43>> Okay. All right. So, if you [laughter]
38:44take a look at
38:46>> Take a deep breath here. [gasps]
38:48>> Do do a little do a little research. Do
38:50a little research.
38:51>> I thought I had, but I'm going to be I'm
38:54going to be quiet. I'm sorry. Go
38:55>> look look up Sykes Pico. Okay.
38:58>> Okay.
38:58>> That's the division of the Middle East
39:02uh by the victors in World War I. All
39:05right. where essentially what happened
39:07is you'll find a British flag over every
39:11single one of those Middle Eastern
39:13countries including Israel.
39:14>> Sure. Okay.
39:15>> All right. Y
39:16>> except for except for Saudi Arabia which
39:19Franklin Roosevelt arranged um you know
39:22and got Winston Churchill totally ripped
39:25at him for doing it. Um, but essentially
39:29what what you've got is a system. The
39:32way it was working is the city of London
39:35after 1971 when the Brett Wood system
39:38came down. Okay.
39:39>> Yeah.
39:40>> The city of London set up what was
39:42called the petrol dollar market. You may
39:44have heard of that.
39:45>> Yes, I understand that.
39:47>> And what what it was was essentially all
39:50of these chiks and everybody else oil
39:53was the commodity of the world at that
39:55point. is how the world got its energy
39:57and it all came from one place largely
40:01which was the Middle East. All right.
40:03Okay.
40:04>> So London set up control of all of that.
40:07How do how does the pricing go? It goes
40:10through these commodity markets, futures
40:12markets, etc. It's all speculated on.
40:15All right. And in turn, all the chics
40:18and control points took their fortunes
40:21and put them in the city of London's
40:23banks. That's how it worked. Now, you
40:27see, the very first thing that Trump
40:28does back in 2016 is that he goes to
40:31Saudi Arabia and he says, you know, all
40:34that terrorism stuff, which frankly we
40:36were doing to defeat the Russians, okay,
40:39that was all intelligence community
40:41stuff to defeat the Soviet Union, we,
40:44you know, pumped tons of money into
40:47Muslim terrorism. That's the most recent
40:50aspect of the thing. All right.
40:52Afghanistan.
40:53That's why that is why we did that.
40:56[laughter]
40:57>> Yeah. Right. Right. Because the idea was
41:01>> okay
41:02>> inside Russia, Russia has a huge
41:05>> Muslim population
41:07>> in all the Soviet Union. You look at the
41:09borders of the Soviet Union, those are
41:11all Muslim
41:12>> populations. And the idea was that you
41:15use Afghanistan, this is Brazinski, you
41:19use Afghanistan as a as a lever. You
41:22draw the Soviets into Afghanistan.
41:25They suffer a Vietnam type defeat.
41:28>> Yes.
41:28>> Which is what happened. And then you
41:30basically use these Muslim terrorist
41:33groups as your army, which is what
41:35happened.
41:36>> Okay. Saudi Osama bin Laden, what was he
41:39about? He ran, he was the bagman for a
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43:08[laughter]
43:09They Okay, sorry. They position this
43:12like well we were just trying to spread
43:14western values you know we want little
43:17girls to go to school and then people
43:19like myself are going listen neocon like
43:22we really think you just wanted to feed
43:23the military-industrial complex and they
43:25don't want our western values over there
43:27and I'm not willing to lose my
43:2818-year-old but no it stops there I
43:31think for the vast majority of the Okay
43:34got it all right so
43:36>> you go back to you go back to this whole
43:38question of why the empire hates
43:40sovereign nations, you know, because if
43:43you have a sovereign nation which has a
43:45national mission and you have a
43:46population which is is united around
43:50that mission, whatever other you know
43:52differences people may have that that's
43:55what's very difficult to control. So the
43:57empire hates sovereign nations. And if
44:00you look at the history
44:01>> of Islamic fundamentalism in the Middle
44:04East, what was targeted long before you
44:08know you had the is the the you know the
44:11the immigration invasion in Britain or
44:14in the United States, the countries of
44:15the Middle East themselves. Iraq was a
44:19secular sovereign nation. It wasn't run
44:22by a theocracy. We destroyed it. Right?
44:25>> Libya was a secular sovereign nation. It
44:28doesn't matter whether you like the
44:29leaders or not, but they were secular
44:32sovereign nations. Syria, Syria was a
44:35nation which celebrated religious
44:37freedom. Jews, Christians, and so on.
44:41These were the nations that were
44:42targeted by these intelligence Muslim
44:46Brotherhood operations. And in terms of
44:48the founding of the Muslim Brotherhood
44:49in the 1920s, directly run by British
44:52intelligence, basically headquartered
44:54out of the Suez Company uh in Egypt. Um
44:58there's a couple of good books that are
45:00highly documented. Uh one by Mark Curtis
45:03called Wow,
45:04>> Secret Agenda and the other by Robert
45:06Drifus called The Devil's Game. I mean,
45:08they go through, you know, chapter and
45:11verse of how these this was created by
45:14the British to constantly play what they
45:17cynically call the great game. You know,
45:20the great game is how do we manipulate
45:22anybody and everybody so we stay on top?
45:25We don't care what happens to this
45:26country. We don't even care what happens
45:29to our proxies or our puppets,
45:31>> right?
45:32>> You know, just at at the point they're
45:33no longer useful, like for example, the
45:35sha of Iran.
45:36>> Oh my god. because you had a national
45:39government in Iran uh under Mosedc and
45:42that's kind of famous. Everybody knows
45:44it was MI6 and the CIA and the Dulles
45:46brothers who overthrew him on behalf of
45:48what? Royal Dutch Shell and British
45:50Petroleum. But then at a certain point,
45:52the Sha is saying, "Well, wait a minute.
45:54I I actually want to develop my nation
45:55for my nation." He's talking about
45:57developing nuclear power, which means
46:00you're no longer just a gas station for
46:02the empire. Got and the next and the
46:04next thing you know he's replaced,
46:07>> you know, so you you use up you use up
46:10your proxies. Uh they don't care. Um and
46:14uh but but to constantly be able to have
46:17these trigger points, whether it's to
46:20put in a government that they like,
46:22whether it's to keep a region in flames
46:24or with the straight of Hormuse, what
46:26Peter Navaro calls the terror premium.
46:29As long as there's always the chance
46:31that the Straits get shut down, Lloyds
46:34of London and the Brent Futures trading
46:37market can jack up rates and make a
46:39whole ton of money.
46:41>> Oh my goodness. Okay, if I was to play
46:44devil's advocate and I'm a CNN watcher,
46:47I'm going Trump started this war and
46:50nobody wanted it and he did it anyway
46:52and he promised he wouldn't and now it's
46:54a disaster and inflation is through the
46:57roof and that's why this happened
47:00because Trump is an idiot and he
47:03alienated Canada and you so on and so on
47:06and so on. Okay. So then how do you
47:09answer that one though? because he
47:10didn't have to go into Iran.
47:14Or he did. Oh, no. Tell me.
47:17>> Well, I mean, basically, you know, Steve
47:20Whit, I'll just make it real simple.
47:23Steve Woff and Jared Kushner go into a
47:25meeting with the Iranians to negotiate a
47:28new nuclear deal. And the Iranians say,
47:31"You know what? We have enough enriched
47:34uranium to make 11 nuclear bombs."
47:36>> I do know that.
47:37>> All right. Yeah,
47:38>> that's what they said openly in that
47:39meeting. So all this debate about were
47:43they really going to do it or not going
47:44to do it. If you look at how this war
47:47has progressed, you actually see that
47:50Trump's gut instinct was right. Now
47:53think about this one. Israel has the
47:55bomb.
47:57All right. Iran gets the bomb. What
48:01happens to the world economy when those
48:03things come to fruition in terms of use
48:07of weapons? All right. So Trump is
48:11looking at that and he says, "Oh my god,
48:13I have to act." All right? Because
48:15there's no choice there. You cannot give
48:18you cannot give a regime which keeps
48:21saying death to America and they really
48:23mean it. I mean, I was kind of soft on
48:26Iran for a while, but then I went to the
48:29Ayatollah's website when all this stuff
48:31was coming out about they want to
48:33assassinate Trump. There was a Trump
48:36snuff film on the Ayatollah's website.
48:40It had a a drone golf cart going after
48:45him while he was playing golf and
48:47shooting him.
48:48>> Right.
48:48>> Okay.
48:49>> Yeah.
48:50>> So, people need to get pretty clear what
48:52this is. It's not about Israel. All
48:55right. Which is the main thing that's
48:56actually being played here over and over
48:59and over again.
49:00>> Sure is.
49:00>> You know, it's not it's not
49:02>> who don't know what they're talking
49:04about. And I I say this just cuz like
49:06I've sat on peers thinking we're meant
49:08to be talking about Lindsay Clancy and
49:10I'm like I feel like I can handle that.
49:11What are we talking about? Lindsey
49:12Clancy. Okay. The next thing I know
49:14we're talking about Iran. And I'm
49:16looking at this panel and I'm going
49:17nobody here has a freaking clue. And yet
49:20we're all talking about Iran. So, I'm
49:22going all right. I'm going to say only
49:25what I know and why I think Iran is an
49:27existential threat. But without
49:29question, Jank U, who's got the loudest
49:32voice in the room, starts screaming
49:35Israel, Israel, Israel. And you're
49:37thinking, well, hold on. Radical Islam
49:39has been around for centuries. What
49:42about the Barbar Wars? What about the,
49:45you know, all of these different things
49:46which you don't even have a chance to
49:47litigate on Piers Morgan despite the
49:49fact that he has millions of followers
49:52and people believe it. They believe it
49:56and then they hate the Jews and now
49:58we're we're litigating that. It It is
50:00crazy.
50:02Oh my gosh. So basically it would I be
50:05wrong would I be tinfoil hat then to
50:07hear what you're saying and think
50:10okay
50:11they basically said if you don't stop us
50:14now we're going to become an existential
50:16threat you have to go in but then London
50:20and Lloyds and all of that is like
50:22perfect this is exactly the trap we
50:24wanted to draw you into simultaneously
50:27yeah there's not going to be a trade
50:29deal with Canada we're going to make
50:30sure there's maximum pain as Well, there
50:34we're going to have our British bank
50:36increase interest rates cuz that's going
50:37to make the Fed need to increase
50:39interest rates. So, we're going to smash
50:40you on that front. It literally looks
50:42like a Game of Thrones board to me. And
50:43I can see the bombs falling. But on the
50:46left, they're like, "See, it's just cuz
50:47Trump's an idiot." I'm like, "But it's
50:49it's not though. It's because there is a
50:51much bigger enemy that you don't see,
50:54and those of us who see really don't
50:56understand."
50:57Where does the bond piece come into
50:59this? cuz it's like if that goes the
51:02whole economy goes and I I can't I can't
51:06wrap my head around that and it feels
51:07like that's the shoe that is about to
51:09drop on Trump and all of us.
51:12>> Well, it's possible. You know, basically
51:15all of this stuff has been building up
51:16to the interest rate decision. All
51:18right. And a big buildup. All right. Uh
51:21frankly, I don't think if they raise the
51:24interest rate by a quarter point, it's
51:26going to make a damn bit of difference.
51:28But people are stoking it up like this
51:30is the ultimate ultimate battle. All
51:32right. What is actually going on? What P
51:35Bessant is doing is he's unwinding this
51:39power powder keg called the yen carry
51:42trade.
51:43>> Okay.
51:43>> All right. Yep.
51:44>> Which is a huge speculative bubble
51:47sitting on top of the world economy
51:49which could blow up at any time. It is
51:52killing Japan and you know basically
51:56because Japan has had this zero interest
51:58rate policy you know forever just
52:01printing money and living by the carry
52:04trade and what people do is they go in
52:06they buy Japanese bonds at zero interest
52:09they come over here and invest them in
52:11treasuries at 5 10% and they make a huge
52:15profit off of that and this has been
52:17built up as this entire big big bubble
52:22you know, for a very long period of
52:24time. Japan wants to raise its rates
52:28because it has to because it can't
52:30survive the what what is going on and
52:33the way this is happening.
52:34>> It's like a margin call basically is
52:36what you're saying
52:38>> on Friday.
52:39>> Oh my gosh.
52:40>> Japan's Japan's going to raise its rates
52:43and then we'll see all the people who
52:45are, you know, speculating on this take
52:48a bath. Um, so that's what all that's
52:52the centerpiece of all this Bond stuff.
52:55>> Oh my god.
52:57>> You know, and a lot of people get upset.
53:00>> A lot of people get upset about uh Scott
53:02Besson because he worked for George
53:04Soros, right? I say, "Thank God he
53:07learned how to build the bomb.
53:09>> So now he knows how to diffuse the
53:10bomb."
53:11>> Of course. Of course.
53:12>> And you have to diffuse it. I mean, it's
53:14like a bomb. And it's not just one bomb.
53:18you have to diffuse it very very
53:20carefully. So we are probably in the
53:23best hands. Um and and which he knows.
53:27But at the same time and I think this is
53:29the part that a lot of people miss the
53:31the whole world financial system
53:33especially since 1971 when we ended
53:36Bretton Woods and took the dollar off
53:37the gold reserve standard which was like
53:39opening the door to the global
53:41speculators. Okay, you guys run the
53:42world. All right, we surrender. I mean
53:44that's that's kind of what that was. and
53:47it's gotten worse since then. Um, but uh
53:51so more and more of the more and more of
53:53economic activity just got sucked into
53:56this speculative non-productive activity
53:58because that's where the money was.
54:00>> You know, you can make money
54:02>> investing in, you know, playing this yen
54:04carry trade game or mortgage back
54:07securities or any of these other exotic
54:09crazy in instruments. And if people
54:10think they don't understand them, just
54:12think about a side bet at the casino.
54:16You're not gambling. You're putting a
54:18bet on whether the guy at the roulette
54:20wheel is going to win or lose. And then
54:22somebody puts a bet on your bet. And
54:24then somebody puts a bet on your bet on
54:26his bet. And then put that through a
54:28supercomput and increase it like a
54:30gazillion times.
54:31>> My gosh. And that's that's the financial
54:34system which is out there which again
54:36has sucked so much of the economic
54:40activity just into this kind of bubble
54:42because it was the only thing that was
54:44there. What is this administration doing
54:47while they're trying to diffuse the
54:48bomb? They're trying to build up the
54:50productive economy. They're trying to
54:53create institutions that can start to
54:55channel credit into the real economy. It
54:59ain't going to go through the Fed. It's
55:01not going to go through Wall Street, but
55:03it's going to go through these new
55:04institutions that they're setting up
55:06like the Office of Strategic Capital in
55:08the Pentagon, which has got a hundred
55:11billion dollars that it is putting into
55:15um uh making it available for somebody
55:18who needs to build a machine tool plant
55:20or upgrade their facilities and so on.
55:22There's an even bigger that may be too
55:25big. There's an even bigger one in the
55:27energy department, a new facility. We
55:29had the historic export import bank
55:32which used to be the reconstruction
55:34finance corporation which did exactly
55:36this in the depression you know got
55:39money into the real producers so that
55:41the economy could start growing again.
55:44The administration has thrown around the
55:46idea of a sovereign wealth fund again a
55:48place where people could put their money
55:50and then know it was going to be used
55:51somewhere useful. Yes.
55:53>> Instead of just speculating on the yen
55:54carry trade. So it this is a very
55:57delicate operation. You know, you're
55:59trying to diffuse this speculative bomb
56:02over here
56:03>> while you're finally building up the
56:05healthy part of the economy. Um but this
56:08ad I mean that no doubt in my mind that
56:11is the direction that this
56:12administration is going in and the
56:14landmines are everywhere.
56:16>> So now I'm understanding the radical
56:18Islamist connection with the globalists.
56:22I don't really understand the socialist
56:24piece.
56:26And it's unquestionable that it's there.
56:29Soros is a globalist. He funds the
56:32socialists.
56:34He funds Sanchez. He funds Burnham. He
56:37funds Mom Donnie.
56:40Why are they or how are they utilizing
56:44open borders and socialism to advance
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57:40>> Well, that's a little complex question.
57:42Okay. It [laughter] goes all the way it
57:44goes all the way back to several uh
57:47things which you know we've spent some
57:49time exposing and I'm I'm working on a
57:52new deal now actually to talk about
57:54socialism and communism as instruments
57:56of this entity. Um the British actually
57:59invented communism.
58:01Okay.
58:02>> What
58:03>> um yeah they invented communism. There's
58:06a book which I highly recommend to
58:08people by a guy by the name of Richard
58:10Poe. It's called How the British
58:13Invented Communism and Blame the Jews.
58:16Okay. Um, and [laughter]
58:19>> oh my god,
58:19>> it's great because
58:21>> I'm going Carl Marx. That's
58:24>> right. Well, it's not the the the
58:26current version of it has very little to
58:29do with poor old Karl Marx. Okay. It has
58:32to do with another character they kept
58:34alive. If you if you go to the
58:36Democratic Socialists of America, what
58:39was that? Let's talk about that. Okay.
58:42First, it was run by the CIA way back
58:45when. Um the the CIA ran something
58:49called the Socialist International
58:52and they ran also uh you know a portion
58:55of that which was called the League for
58:57Industrial Democracy. that was to
59:01prevent communism in trade unions across
59:04the world and prevent the world from
59:06going communist during the Soviet
59:09period. Okay.
59:10>> Okay. So that's the beginning of the
59:12DSA. It was split into two
59:14organizations. Then after it was
59:17revealed that the CIA was running the
59:19labor movement which was not too cool in
59:22the 60s. Then what happened is that
59:24Michael Harrington uh who was you know
59:27one one of the splits in the original
59:30socialist international and uh the
59:34leftist organization called the new
59:36America movement which was the XSDS
59:39movement uh in the United States joined
59:42together to form the DSA
59:45>> and that's Bernie Sanders organization.
59:47Okay. up until,
59:50>> you know, it became increasingly
59:52increasingly more and more radical. I
59:55mean, I don't think uh AOC has ever read
59:58Carl Marx. I doubt it. I I really do
1:00:01doubt it. [laughter]
1:00:03Okay. But what they what they have is
1:00:06that they they pick up by this and say,
1:00:09"Our hero," which is really in all of
1:00:12their minutes and everything else, our
1:00:14hero is a guy by the name of Antonio
1:00:16Graham.
1:00:17Now, who the hell was that? Nobody says,
1:00:19"What are you talking about?" He was an
1:00:22Italian communist
1:00:24um who was imprisoned by Mussolini.
1:00:28Uh and he wrote while he was in prison
1:00:30some a document called his prison
1:00:32notebooks. And what he said was, "How
1:00:35come the Russian Revolution didn't
1:00:37spread? Is there something really wrong
1:00:40with communism?" Right? How come it how
1:00:42come the workers didn't revolt all over
1:00:45Europe like Mark said was going to
1:00:46happen? And he said, "Aha, here's the
1:00:50answer to that. It's because the workers
1:00:53and everybody else believe in Western
1:00:56Christian civilization."
1:00:58Uh, and until we get rid of that, we're
1:01:01not going to have communism. Okay? So,
1:01:04let's work on getting rid of that.
1:01:07>> Got it.
1:01:07>> All right.
1:01:09>> Who kept Grahamsky alive? This is a
1:01:11shocker. Okay. He was in prison. Where
1:01:14how did his notebooks get anywhere?
1:01:16Well, he had a British sponsor at
1:01:19Cambridge University who actually gave
1:01:21him money and took his works and got
1:01:24them published. And it not only that,
1:01:27the British sponsor was was sponsored in
1:01:29term by none other than Lord John
1:01:33Maynard Kanes. uh if you know that name,
1:01:36he's the father of all of our current
1:01:38crazy economic theories on the liberal
1:01:41side of things. So here's Grampsky whose
1:01:45notebooks never should have seen the
1:01:47light of day. They were written in
1:01:48prison, you know, he you know, and the
1:01:51British circulated this stuff and it
1:01:54became the mantra of the new left.
1:01:57That's who where Herbert Marcusa, you
1:01:59may know that name.
1:02:00>> Yes.
1:02:00>> Uh you know, came out and basically said
1:02:03this is it. this is this is what we've
1:02:05got to do. So you get all of these
1:02:09movements, feminism, all of the stuff
1:02:11coming out of that. Not to say that
1:02:14women didn't have right to vote and
1:02:16become, you know, totally human, but
1:02:18feminism kind of went wacko if you just
1:02:21>> we're killing kids now.
1:02:22>> Yeah.
1:02:23>> Right. Right. Right. So it's all
1:02:27designed around the idea of get rid of
1:02:29Western civilization. And in fact, they
1:02:31actually say that uh in their
1:02:34literature,
1:02:35>> that's what we're doing.
1:02:36>> Okay,
1:02:37>> we're destroying Western civilization.
1:02:39>> Okay, and then you think about it. Holy
1:02:41cow. Uh you look at the United States in
1:02:44say 1950 or coming out of the war and
1:02:48you look at us now. Well, it's been
1:02:51pretty destructive.
1:02:53>> Yes.
1:02:53>> All right. I mean, you know, we used to
1:02:56like give me the next frontier to
1:02:58conquer. Think about the space program.
1:03:00I got the right stuff. That's what when
1:03:02I was get when I was a kid, man, I
1:03:05wanted to go to space, you know, that
1:03:06was my deal. And I had to really think
1:03:09about how to cultivate the right stuff
1:03:10like John Glenn and all these other
1:03:12people. We don't try and do that kind of
1:03:16thing anymore. Trump does, which is why
1:03:20I think just they they hate him, not
1:03:23even for policy. They just hate that
1:03:26very idea in a person that the the
1:03:29recklessness they call it
1:03:31>> of, you know, I'm going to take I'm
1:03:33going to take the next step here. We're
1:03:35going to go beyond these boundaries and
1:03:37throw them open.
1:03:39>> All right. He's fearless like that. And
1:03:41so they just hate him for that. That's
1:03:44what I think is the center of Trump
1:03:46derangement syndrome right there,
1:03:49you know. And if you also uh you know go
1:03:52back to the the the uh uh communism 1.0
1:03:57which was Karl Marx. Now we're kind of
1:03:59in 2.0 as Barbara just described. Got
1:04:01it.
1:04:01>> You go back to communism 1.0. Yeah. What
1:04:04was who what was Mar Karl Marx deployed
1:04:07to attack? It was explicitly the
1:04:10American system.
1:04:11>> You know because today everybody says
1:04:13the fight is between communism and
1:04:14capitalism. All right. Well the fight is
1:04:16definitely in part against communism.
1:04:18But where where did this word capitalism
1:04:20come from? Did we fight the American
1:04:22Revolution against communists? Are you
1:04:24going to find anywhere in our founding
1:04:26documents the word capitalism? No,
1:04:28you're not going to find that word even
1:04:30used for decades and decades. Karl Marx
1:04:32cooks it up to create this boogeyman
1:04:36because I think capitalism is just a
1:04:38very lazy world word. Some people mean
1:04:40industrial capitalism. That's fine.
1:04:43>> Okay. But really today, capitalism, the
1:04:46one the young kids are revoling against
1:04:47is globalist financeier capitalism. But
1:04:50it's just a lazy word because the real
1:04:52fight goes back way before Karl Marx. It
1:04:56is the American system versus the
1:04:57British system and we've forgotten that.
1:05:00>> Oh my god.
1:05:01>> So we're fighting shadows on the wall.
1:05:03>> Yes. rather than actually fighting the
1:05:05real battle. And that's where, you know,
1:05:07JD Vance is is, I think, one of the most
1:05:10conscious of this. And he certainly set
1:05:12a bunch of people's hair on fire on the
1:05:14right when he said the Republican party
1:05:16is now the party of Alexander Hamilton
1:05:18and not Milton Friedman. And oh boy, did
1:05:22some people like Ben Shapiro and others
1:05:23go crazy. You know, and even people that
1:05:26I have a certain amount of respect for
1:05:27like Larry Cuddlo and others went crazy
1:05:30because because they've accepted this
1:05:32false debate that the fight is between
1:05:35government and unbridled free markets.
1:05:38No, the fight is between the American
1:05:39system and the British system and
1:05:41everything draws from there.
1:05:42>> Oh my goodness. Okay, last thing. I
1:05:45promise. I swear I'm watching these very
1:05:48bizarre culture wars play out. I know
1:05:51they're orchestrated. I know they're
1:05:53being puppeteered and I'll give you an
1:05:56example of something I just covered on a
1:05:57show that's actually out today, which
1:05:59will be a few days back from now.
1:06:02The Patrick Clancy deep fake AI videos
1:06:06that make it look like he changed his
1:06:08clothes so women can take to the
1:06:10internet and tell you that not only, you
1:06:13know, is it okay if it was Lindsay, but
1:06:16really it was Patrick. Men go crazy.
1:06:20top trend on Google is women are evil.
1:06:23And I'm going, okay, [laughter]
1:06:26what is happening here? This is
1:06:28definitely an attempt to take down
1:06:30civilization. There's no question. And
1:06:33then you're looking at all these other
1:06:35this war on Christianity. Oh, you know,
1:06:38Hillary Clinton. Well, we all know it's
1:06:40these white Christian men. I'm like, I
1:06:42know a lot of those guys. They're pretty
1:06:45nice. I'm not really like, what are you
1:06:47super duper alarmed about? I'm a little
1:06:49more worried about Sharia.
1:06:51And yet I think to myself, oh, don't get
1:06:53caught in these culture wars, Jill. But
1:06:56for some reason, I'm I'm driven to
1:06:57debunk them or take them on.
1:07:00And I think it's because I know there's
1:07:03something bigger manipulating us with
1:07:05those. And it sounds like it's this. Am
1:07:08I right?
1:07:09>> You're right. Absolutely. I mean, think
1:07:12about think about that jury, okay? And
1:07:15think about think about, you know, all
1:07:17the stuff that's gone on. Oh, the hold
1:07:19out was a black guy.
1:07:21>> YEP. YES.
1:07:22>> WHOA. HE'S not supposed to think like
1:07:24that. He's supposed to think like us.
1:07:27>> Yes.
1:07:27>> Well, hey, you know, if you think about
1:07:29Planned Parenthood and the deliberate
1:07:31genocide against black people in the
1:07:32United States, he has a real stake in
1:07:36thinking about she killed three kids. Uh
1:07:39then you think about Massachusetts and
1:07:42you know Martha Healey sitting there
1:07:43signing that bill.
1:07:45>> It's insane.
1:07:46>> Yes.
1:07:47>> Right. And all these women cheering.
1:07:49We're going to kill babies.
1:07:50>> All right.
1:07:51>> Um so you know it and the nurses you
1:07:56know you know basically you know going
1:07:59beating this guy over the head and
1:08:02saying we know we know what postpartum
1:08:05depression is. Women go crazy because of
1:08:07their hormones. Well, hey, women been
1:08:09going crazy because of their hormones
1:08:11forever from having kids. So, this is
1:08:13not new. All right.
1:08:14>> Yeah.
1:08:15>> Um, and you know, she wasn't given
1:08:18appropriate medical attention. That's
1:08:20all true,
1:08:22>> but she still killed the kids.
1:08:23>> Yeah.
1:08:24>> And that's what's really being wiped out
1:08:26here in terms of, you know, uh, how
1:08:29could she be that crazy? Um, you know, I
1:08:32mean, that is it's just beyond my
1:08:34comprehension, I have to tell you.
1:08:36>> Yeah. But I see all the dots you're
1:08:38talking about. It's like we're
1:08:39celebrating
1:08:41aborting a child at up to 34 weeks up to
1:08:45a doctor's discretion. By the way, you
1:08:47could do that in the previous bill for a
1:08:50host of reasons, including a mother's
1:08:53psychological health. If she wasn't
1:08:54psychologically well, they could do it.
1:08:57They just have to make a case to the
1:08:59medical board. Now, the doctor can just
1:09:01say, "I'm doing it." And you see that.
1:09:03You see Lindsay Clancy. You see all of
1:09:06this and I'm thinking this is nuts. This
1:09:08is does not make sense. This is being
1:09:11amplified. All of this craziness and I
1:09:13know it ties back to something and now I
1:09:16really understand what it is.
1:09:18>> Yeah. And it really, you know, the
1:09:20fundamental question in terms of the
1:09:22American system versus the British
1:09:23system and again we stress it's a
1:09:25system.
1:09:26>> Okay.
1:09:26>> That you know it's an idea. It's a set
1:09:28of principles.
1:09:28>> Okay.
1:09:29>> The fundamental difference is the image
1:09:31of man. You know, are we in the image of
1:09:33the creator and unique among other
1:09:35species on this planet? For that reason,
1:09:37we have creative reason. We have the
1:09:40injunction to continue the process of
1:09:42God's creation. Or are we no better than
1:09:44the animals? And and all of these
1:09:47culture wars, that's where they break
1:09:49down.
1:09:49>> Yeah.
1:09:50>> You know, you're no better than an
1:09:51animal, then maybe you can drown the
1:09:52kittens.
1:09:53>> Um, you know, I don't know how people do
1:09:55that, but you know, it's it's it's that
1:09:58that's where you're going. It is. It
1:10:01breaks down on the question of the image
1:10:03of man and that's the fight.
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1:11:12long. I will let you go, but I'm
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1:11:16any way I could help amplify the
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1:11:20team.
1:11:21>> Thank you. It was great.
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