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0:00Well, here we are. We're still grinding.

0:03Um, and today I want to share with you

0:06the beginning, what I have been finding

0:09out, and of course, all the details of

0:12what I'm about to embark on. Before I

0:15get started, please don't forget to

0:17check out my website, jayauudioab.com,

0:20for more used high-end audio equipment.

0:23I am sure I have something for some of

0:25you out there uh that can certainly

0:28improve the performance of your system.

0:31I actually want to use this opportunity

0:33to brainstorm with all of you watching

0:35me. So if you have any constructive

0:38feedback, please comment below. Let me

0:41know your thoughts as I begin to explain

0:43to you what we will be doing here over

0:46the next two and a half to 3 months. So,

0:50I had a contractor

0:52come and pay me a visit u about a week

0:54ago. And at that point in time, I only

0:57had an idea in my head. I did not have

1:00the 3D model that you're seeing on your

1:03screen right now, which you got to give

1:04me kudos, man. I created it. I learned

1:07on my own, okay? I punched a few holes

1:09in the wall because of being frustrated

1:12with the software, but my iPad M4

1:15actually delivered. So I have a very

1:17good 3D model of what I'm visualizing.

1:20So anyway, after I got done doing that

1:23and now I have a visual of what I am

1:25thinking, okay, because it is important

1:27that the contractor also has a vision

1:30with you, okay, of what you're thinking

1:31about. And so I

1:34reached out to a company called Acoustic

1:36Science. They basically gave me some

1:41interesting insights as to what I should

1:43be doing with my room in order to keep

1:47vibration from happening around the

1:49walls, if that makes sense. They are

1:52extremely extremely knowledgeable when

1:54it comes to creating the right room, the

1:58right environment for your sound. So,

2:00let me go over as far as what that is.

2:02So, the name of the process is called

2:04ISO wall. Okay? An ISO wall is nothing

2:07else than two walls, two drywalls

2:11basically screwed together. So let me

2:14demonstrate a little bit of what we're

2:15talking about here. So for instance,

2:17right, you have here the frame, right?

2:19It's the frame of the structure. If you

2:23have sound waves, if you have a sound

2:25system in here, and let's say all you

2:27have is your drywall screwed onto these

2:30beams, what happens is, believe it or

2:32not, bass pressurizes the room and it

2:36makes the walls vibrate. When the walls

2:40vibrate, so does this. And you really

2:43don't want to have that issue because it

2:45does create base issues. There are many

2:48anomalies that occur when you have that

2:51in room vibration. And so what they are

2:55basically going to be helping me with is

2:57to create an environment where the walls

3:00absorb a lot of this issue. The drywall

3:03itself will be completely decoupled from

3:06these beams. So I'm going to be ordering

3:08this huge kit. So what it is are these

3:11channels that get attached on these

3:14beams, right? That go across. You're

3:17seeing them on your screen right now.

3:18And these channels essentially are what

3:22basically support the first drywall, the

3:24first layer. So it gets put on those

3:27channels. So that's step number one.

3:29Step number two is to put these pads,

3:32these squares on the actual drywall, the

3:36first drywall. And those squares will

3:39basically glue the second drywall on top

3:43of the first drywall. Now, of course,

3:45you can't leave the structure like that,

3:48right? So, you have to make sure you put

3:50screws to put to basically attach these

3:53two drywalls together. Now, the key here

3:55is to make sure that you do not screw

3:59that second layer of drywall onto the

4:02beam because if you screw it onto the

4:03beam, you essentially have damaged the

4:07benefits of this decoupling effect. So

4:11you got to make sure that when you screw

4:12them together, you're screwed it you're

4:14screwing them somewhere along here. So

4:16that when the screws go from the first

4:18drywall to the second, you're doing it

4:20right here. You're not doing it here. So

4:22you're doing it like this, right? That

4:25way the two drywalls stay together. Now

4:27the same thing is happening with the

4:30roof. Now you're looking at the roof

4:32right now. It is a huge tall ceiling

4:34here, guys. It is approximately

4:3716 to 18 ft tall. very tall ceiling and

4:41I'm going to have a I'm going to drop a

4:44ceiling. I'm going to definitely have a

4:45drop ceiling. The dimensions that I'm

4:47thinking about for the two rooms are

4:49going to be 24

4:51by 17 by 11. So, the ceilings are going

4:55to be approximately 11 ft tall. And

4:59right here, what you're seeing is

5:01approximately 17 ft. So this part once

5:08we put the double drywalls right here

5:11and we knock this down because you see

5:13all these beautiful shelves are going to

5:15go. They're going to be completely taken

5:16down. So from here to there is going to

5:20be approximately 17.5

5:23ft in terms of the width of the room

5:26which I find completely acceptable for

5:28this perfect ratio which again it's 24x7

5:33by 11. Now when it comes to the roof

5:36here is something that has been

5:39unfortunately

5:42be been creating a lot of like questions

5:45for me. Okay. And I'm going I want you

5:47guys to answer me in the comments

5:49section. Some of you that have seen this

5:52room, okay, have essentially told me

5:55that it would be cool to keep the

5:57windows, right? So, we have four windows

6:00as you can see on the on either side of

6:04the structure. Right? So, we have four

6:05windows. Some of you have told me, Jay,

6:08if you can keep those windows, I think

6:12it'll make the room just nicer. A lot of

6:14you feel very lonely in your listening

6:16rooms because you have no contact with

6:18the outside world, but I was told that

6:21if I kept the windows, it'll give the

6:24entire feel of the room much more of a

6:27living room, if you will. Okay. But my

6:31biggest concern, as you know, and

6:33hopefully I don't fall. Don't laugh.

6:35Okay. My biggest concern

6:38I'm stepping on magical subs. They'll

6:42survive. This is my biggest concern

6:45guys.

6:48See that it doesn't feel like it's thick

6:51glass and also the leakage that will

6:55occur right sound will essentially exit

6:59the room. Okay. Now I have been told by

7:03some of you that there are some special

7:06double like sided glass special glass

7:09that doesn't allow for sound to leak.

7:11And so if you know of these companies, I

7:14want you to drop them down in the

7:16comments section. If you have used

7:17specific glass that allows for that to

7:19not occur because ideally I don't want

7:22to disturb my neighbors. Although these

7:25are states so houses are pretty spread

7:28apart, that doesn't mean I still want

7:30the sound to escape. I would prefer to

7:32keep as much sound inside the room as

7:34possible. And so the ideal will the idea

7:38would be to put like special sealant

7:41across the frame of this window to allow

7:44for no sound to escape and maybe order

7:46some thick glass so that I can retain

7:50these beautiful windows. Now let me get

7:53down and make sure I don't bust my ass

7:54here. Yep.

7:59All right. Oh, I didn't. So, the idea is

8:02to hopefully retain the windows. Okay.

8:07Do you guys think that's a better idea

8:09to keep the windows or do you think I

8:11should just go all out and make the

8:12rooms completely enclosed with no

8:16visibility to the outside world? Drop a

8:19comment, okay? I want to know what you

8:20guys think. I may even p put up a poll

8:23so you guys can vote. Keep the windows

8:25or delete them completely and forget

8:27about it. Okay. So now speaking of the

8:30roof, I I just said that the ceiling

8:32would be approximately 11 ft tall. Now

8:3511t tall is so you know it's probably

8:39going to be around here. That's about 11

8:42ft. We already measured it yesterday,

8:43right? So in reality I would have if I

8:46decide to delete the windows, I would

8:48have to have them seal them and

8:50basically create a frame right there and

8:52put drywall right on top of it. like

8:54with the same idea as what we talked

8:57about, meaning the ISO wall procedure.

9:01So,

9:02I prefer to keep the windows as if

9:04possible because I think it's kind of

9:06cool to open the door to the room and

9:09not even have the lights on, actually

9:11have natural light inside the room. I

9:12think it's kind of cool. Um, I don't

9:14know how that affects the temperature of

9:17the room. That's another thing I was

9:18thinking about. I don't know if that's

9:20going to make the room hotter, meaning

9:21my AC will work much harder. Um, those

9:24are things that I just don't have answer

9:26for yet. Now, moving on to the next part

9:28of the project, which is really

9:31something that is very important. Okay,

9:34and that would be my electrical.

9:37All right, this panel is here. Don't

9:41know what it runs. Again, I'm still

9:43unpacking. Okay, I don't know what the

9:45hell this runs. All I can do is read

9:48what it says here. Now, this panel

9:51clearly, and I think you guys would

9:52agree, I wouldn't want this panel to be

9:55inside the room. I think it would look

9:57tacky.

9:59So, we have to relocate it, right? So, I

10:02would have to move this entire panel all

10:04the way,

10:06follow me, all the way here

10:09to this corner. Right. This corner.

10:14That way

10:15it's out of sight. Remember it's two

10:18rooms. So if the rooms are 24

10:23in length, 24 ft in length, I am

10:25probably going to end up with both rooms

10:28right here. So I'm going to probably end

10:30up with a wall right here, leaving me

10:32this space for storage, right? So, I

10:36don't mind having the electrical panel

10:38there because it's not going to be

10:39inside of any of the two rooms, right?

10:41That I'll have divided anyway. Now, of

10:44course, that presents issues. That means

10:46all of this wiring that you see here,

10:48they're going to have to rework this

10:49wires. All these things need to be done.

10:51See this? This is actually a pipe. Water

10:55runs through here to the to the uh

10:58outside where there is a hose. So, all

11:00of this needs to be relocated. All this

11:02needs to be taken down. See all these

11:04beautiful shells? These are expensive

11:05things. These shelves are heavy duty.

11:08They need to be knocked down. Think

11:09about how much wood I'm going to be

11:11wasting. Maybe I'll hand hang hang on to

11:13a lot of it because I could repurpose it

11:14at some point. So, maybe I'll tell him,

11:16listen, uh, leave me the wood in the

11:18best shape possible that because I might

11:20need to use these. Now, if you're

11:22wondering, what are we doing with the

11:24roof? Okay, so the plan with the roof

11:27will be to once we drop the ceiling

11:30hopefully at around 11 ft. The idea with

11:34the roof will be to keep the area above,

11:37which should be approximately another

11:39five feet maybe. The idea is to keep

11:41that as storage so that all these boxes

11:43that you see here when they're empty,

11:46they go up above. And then that section

11:48at the end will be for like the crates

11:51that are empty, right? The big speaker

11:53crates. So that way I don't have to keep

11:55renting storage units because full

11:58disclosure, I was spending $850

12:02a month on two storage units to

12:06essentially store all of this stuff that

12:08you see here. $850 and I did that for 2

12:12years straight. So what's that? Almost

12:16like $24,000 around there. $23,000.

12:20That's a lot of money that I dropped on

12:21that. So, I would prefer to try to

12:24leverage as as much of my space as I

12:26possibly can without having to be going

12:29to a storage facility. I don't want to

12:31do that anymore. I want to use my big,

12:33you know, home to basically store all of

12:36my crates and all of the equipment that

12:39I have here. As far as the floor, let me

12:42show you the floor. Okay, so for the

12:44floor,

12:46this is what I'm going to be doing. Now,

12:48these were left behind by the previous

12:50owner. But these are great things. These

12:54are called Duralux waterproof luxury

12:57vinyl. See that right there?

13:00That is essentially what I'm going to be

13:02doing for the floor. I'll tell you why.

13:07I'm tired of carpet. I'm sick of carpet

13:09on the floor. I'm sick of it. I'm sick

13:11of it. I I don't want any more carpet.

13:13I've already lived with it. And to be

13:15frank with you, I am not the most

13:17careful individual when it comes to

13:19dragging equipment on the floor. Um, and

13:22so I did put a heavy duty carpet in the

13:25last lab which really had great

13:28durability, but I don't think it adds

13:30anything to the presence of the room. I

13:32think carpet in general, especially

13:34heavy duty carpet, tends to just not

13:37look great. Clearly nothing like this.

13:40Clearly, it won't look like this. Okay.

13:43It will not have anything like this that

13:46gives more presence, more beauty, more

13:50room aesthetics. And so what I'm going

13:52to do is I'm going to laminate the whole

13:55floor, all this slab of concrete with

13:57this. Okay, we're going to do this

13:59entire thing. That way when I drag a

14:02huge crate and it breaks and I damage

14:05it, all I got to do is replace this and

14:08I'm back in business. I don't have to

14:10worry about anything else or having to

14:12tear the whole carpet because I

14:14destroyed it. Right? So, to me, this

14:16seems to be the better option. Also,

14:19remember, by having this, I can still

14:22couple the speakers on to the concrete.

14:25If I'm spiking them, which clearly I'm

14:27not going to use spikes because

14:29obviously I would damage this. But if I

14:31put these discs that go under the

14:32spikes, I'm still on the concrete

14:35surface, right? And to me that gives

14:38better performance. Last thing that I

14:40wanted to comment on which um you know I

14:44know many of you have talked about is

14:47the air conditioning. Yes, I'm going to

14:49be dropping hopefully a beautiful uh

14:52ceiling in here that I already discussed

14:55with my contractor. It's going to be

14:58very modern. I don't want any of the

15:00ghetto old looking ceilings. I want

15:03something really good-looking. I want

15:05something that when you walk in here,

15:07you're like, "Wow, this is next level.

15:09This is beautiful. This is a gorgeous uh

15:11looking room, two rooms." And so, I may

15:14even color rooms differently. I don't

15:16know. I may just paint them in different

15:18colors. Um I haven't gotten that far

15:21yet, but I would definitely love to

15:24differentiate the rooms. So, my intent

15:26is, for example, in this on this side, I

15:29want to have the

15:31more affordable room, if that's a thing

15:34on my channel. And then as you walk

15:37through the double doors that will be

15:38here on the wall, there will be double

15:40doors that or maybe a 40-in door perhaps

15:44because I still need to remember log

15:46equipment from that side to this side.

15:49This would be where my cost no object

15:52system will be. This will be the system,

15:53the crazy system that I prefer to have

15:57it here because I don't expect to be

15:59switching a lot of stuff in and out from

16:00this system. It would be more of my

16:03reference system for a long time, right?

16:06So, this system here would be the one

16:08that I would be changing a lot of

16:09component components, probably doing

16:11like tube gear, affordable speakers,

16:14affordable DAXs. This would be the the

16:16fun room where I would play more. Okay,

16:18that that would be more for like serious

16:20clients that want to hear a high caliber

16:24system. They're really interested in

16:26purchasing it through me. This is where

16:28they would come, right? That doesn't

16:30mean you can't hear it. Yes, you can

16:31listen to it, but this would be more of

16:33the approachable room. Two themes for

16:36sure. I got to think about two themes.

16:38I'm going to work with my wife wife as

16:39far as the color schemes u to

16:41differentiate both rooms. Um, I'm

16:44thinking a very beautiful structure,

16:47very beautiful feel to the entire room.

16:51Um, it's going to cost me an arm and a

16:54leg. When I get there, you guys will be

16:57part of the ride. Once I have come up

17:00with an agreement and the right figures

17:03for my contractor and I to do the work,

17:06I'll start filming parts of the process.

17:08You'll start seeing all this being taken

17:10down. you'll start seeing all the

17:13electrical be moved. I'm going to

17:15document all of that for you guys to

17:17follow along. I just wanted to give you

17:19this initial video so you understand

17:21what I'm thinking. That said, things may

17:24change along the way. So, keep that in

17:26mind. Okay? What you see here on your

17:28screen, this 3D rendering, the uh design

17:31that I did is so that you have a highle

17:33idea of what I'm thinking in my head,

17:35but we may have to switch things, you

17:38know, as we go along. I don't really

17:41know how what the end product will look

17:43like, but you do have an idea now with

17:46this design that you're seeing on your

17:47screen what I'm thinking about. Last but

17:49not least, we cannot forget about the

17:51importance of the door. This door, which

17:53is 36 in, will be replaced by probably a

17:5640-in or maybe even a wider door. And it

17:58will not open to the inside because

18:00remember, I'll have speakers right here.

18:03And I don't want some of you to come in

18:05here and knock down a speaker because

18:07that's going to be an expensive purchase

18:09that you're going to have to make. Okay.

18:10So, the door will open to the outside

18:13and um I think I should have enough

18:15space for people to walk through here

18:17and obviously visit both rooms. So,

18:21that's basically what I'm thinking. It's

18:24not going to be cheap, but I am going

18:26for number one the room performance. I

18:29am going for room aesthetics. Those two

18:32things will go hand in hand. And by the

18:35way, I understand that there's going to

18:38be there are going to be some

18:39trade-offs. I understand that. Okay. I

18:41know that if I want the best performance

18:43imaginable, I should just get rid of the

18:45windows. I get that. Okay. But how much

18:48of the performance am I really losing by

18:50getting rid of the windows? Am I really

18:52losing half of the performance by

18:54keeping them? Is that what's going on?

18:56Tell me in the comment section. Have you

18:59heard a quite substantial reduction in

19:02performance by keeping the windows in

19:03your listening rooms? Or perhaps, which

19:07something that my wife also said, we can

19:09put acoustic drapes right on them,

19:11right? Acoustic drapes. And that we can

19:14actually open up with a push of a

19:16button. Motorized. All eight of them

19:17will just open up when I'm just hanging

19:19out here with you guys, right? When

19:21we're hanging out, I can just open them

19:23up with a push of a button. And when

19:24we're going to do critical listening, I

19:26can just push a button and then some

19:27acoustic drapes right there would just

19:30close the windows off completely and

19:31we're back in business. So, there are

19:33some ideas that I have. Of course, they

19:36are all very expensive. Nothing is

19:38cheap. Okay. And as you can see before I

19:40go, I got a lot of gear that I need to

19:43sell. So, if you're looking for used

19:45high-end gear, please let me know. I got

19:48some SIM audio integrated, the latest

19:52Sim audio integrated in the back. I

19:54don't know if you see the box over

19:55there. I got that. Um, I have this

20:00Artisania audio stands that I would I

20:02wouldn't mind selling. Um, I got the

20:04Magical Q subs. I got an Apex stereo

20:07amplifier, which is still my reference

20:10amplifier. The monos are what I'm going

20:12to keep here. Uh, so I don't need to

20:14keep the stereo and the mono. So, I got

20:16an Apex stereo. U, there are many other

20:19things that I have here. I got some

20:21Sabrina

20:23X's right here from Wilson Audio. These

20:25are Sabrina's.

20:27Okay. And I need I think I'm going to

20:28use those in my home theater inside my

20:30home. So, when I get to the home theater

20:32section, which we will cover probably

20:34early next year, I think maybe I'll use

20:36some Wilson Audio Sabrina X's next to

20:38the screen and maybe some Wilson um the

20:42ones that hang on the wall. I don't

20:43remember. Alina, Alina, can't remember

20:45the name of them. Maybe I'll use that.

20:47I'm thinking about doing a Wilson home

20:49theater setup. uh something smaller uh

20:51for the inside or I may even do which I

20:54was thinking about this possibility. I

20:56was looking at Dine Audio uh fully

20:59active speakers from Dine Audio doing

21:01the entire full fully active speakers so

21:04that I don't need an amplifier. All I do

21:06is I would run lines from where the

21:08processor would be with an XLR into the

21:11back of each speaker and the inwalls. Of

21:13course, I would need perhaps an

21:15amplifier to drive the in the Atmos

21:17speakers, excuse me. But a lot of work

21:20to do here, guys, as you can see. And I

21:22am going to take you along for the ride.

21:25As I said, the idea is to build two

21:28impressive rooms. They need to be

21:30good-looking. I don't want something old

21:32school. I don't want something old. If

21:35they're going to be old, I might as well

21:36just keep the room as it is and drop a

21:38carpet on the floor and plop the

21:39speakers and call it a day. Okay? I need

21:42to make sure it looks the part. So, when

21:44I do the grand opening, hopefully end of

21:47the year, maybe in early January, you

21:50come in and you're like, "Man, this has

21:52been really well designed, Jay. You

21:54killed it. I have never seen something

21:56so pretty." And of course, good sounding

21:59as well. All right. So, let me know your

22:02ideas. Comment below. Give me your ideas

22:05on the windows. Do I get rid of the

22:07windows? If I keep them, do you have any

22:10suggestions as far as companies that I

22:12can work with as far as getting the

22:14right glass, something that's thicker

22:16that can maintain a lot of this of the

22:18sound? I don't want any sound to leak

22:20out of the the the the this structure,

22:23right? Let me know. Or curtains or

22:25things like that that I can utilize. I

22:27am counting on you to also give me a

22:29hand. Okay? Cuz I don't know everything.

22:32Okay? I don't know everything. All

22:33right? And let me know your overall

22:35impressions of what I'm thinking about

22:37for the near future. All right, guys.

22:39So, that's all I got for today. Thank

22:42you for your support, and I will be

22:45talking to you soon.

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