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Visiting the site of the deadly collapse
0:02[M ar k Ke ll ey ] On t hi s ed it io n of Th e Fi ft h Es ta te .. .
0:04[crowd chanting]
0:09Ten years later, we're back at Rana Plaza,
0:11back in Bangladesh.
0:13[Mark] In 2013, more than 1100 people
0:16died here making your clothes.
0:18Do you recognize these shorts?
0:20[speaking other language]
0:21[Mark] A decade later,
0:23we reconnect with a worker
0:24who survived this massive factory collapse.
0:27[Mark] You've had such a huge sacrifice in your life
0:30just to make clothes for Canadians.
0:33And what about the Canadian brand
0:34at the centre of the disaster?
0:37[Galen Weston] I'm troubled that our company
0:39can still be part of such an unspeakable tragedy.
0:42Were their promises forgotten,
0:45like the site of the tragedy itself?
0:47[Kalpona Akalpona] They don't have any money
0:49for their medical that they need to taken care of.
0:51[Brad Loewen] So, to not have them done
0:53that many years later is shocking.
0:56[Mark] We're in Bangladesh on the hunt for answers.
0:59This factory makes clothes
1:01for Joe Fresh, a Canadian company.
1:02And these are the inspection reports,
1:04and you've had ongoing fire safety issues.
1:08We'll show you the price the workers continue to pay
1:11to make the clothes you wear.
1:13Do you have enough money to eat?
1:18My name is Mark Kelley, I'm with The Fifth Estate.
1:21So, we have been trying to get in touch with you
1:23for a couple of weeks.
1:25I'm Mark Kelley.
1:26This is The Fifth Estate.
1:30-[siren wailing] -[dramatic music playing]
1:34[Mark] It was as quick as it was deadly.
1:38In 90 agonising seconds, Rana Plaza collapsed.
1:44Built illegally on a swamp, it was a deathtrap.
1:50Even after workers detected gaping cracks
1:53in the foundation,
1:54they were ordered back into the building
1:56hours before it collapsed.
2:02[lamenting music playing]
2:051134 people died here...
2:09about 2500 more were injured,
2:12some for life...
2:16making clothes for bestselling brands
2:18like Benetton, Zara, Walmart
2:21and Loblaw-owned Joe Fresh.
2:25It was that Canadian connection
2:26that brought me here ten years ago.
2:32[dramatic music playing]
2:35And it's brought me back...
2:39to find out what,
2:40if anything, has changed for the people
2:43who make the clothes you wear.
2:51Our first stop...
2:54Rana Plaza.
2:57It's upsetting to see this
2:58because I remember when I was here ten years ago,
3:01family members were coming up
3:03with pictures of their loved ones who were lost,
3:06buried in the rubble.
3:07People whose bodies were never recovered.
3:09And today...
3:11it's like a garbage dump.
3:16It's just forgotten.
3:17It's, like, the whole disaster itself,
3:19all those people, all those lives lost...
3:22just simply forgotten.
3:27[soulful music playing]
3:30[Mark] If not for this tired-looking monument,
3:32you wouldn't know this is the site
3:34of the deadliest garment factory collapse
3:36in modern history.
3:39The site is used as an open toilet,
3:42marred by mounds of scraps
3:45from a neighbouring garment factory.
3:48Business booms as memories fade.
4:00Ten years ago,
4:01I remember meeting Aruti Rani Das.
4:05She spent days trapped in the rubble.
4:09Her mother died in the disaster.
4:12Aruti lost her lower leg.
4:14She was 17 years old.
4:18Aruti sewed 150 pocket seams an hour,
4:22making these Joe Fresh shorts for Canadians.
4:25How do you feel when you look at those pants?
4:32[translator] I feel sad.
4:33If I didn't work in that factory,
4:35this would not have happened.
4:39I feel very bad seeing these pants.
4:42[Mark] She said then she couldn't work anymore,
4:45so we wanted to know...
4:46[dramatic music playing]
4:51...how is she surviving today?
4:53[speaking other language]
4:54[speaking other language]
4:56[speaking other language]
5:00[pensive music playing]
5:11[speaking other language]
5:14[Mark] It's so nice to see you after ten years,
5:17but I'm curious to know, how are you?
5:20How are you feeling? How is your life these days?
5:40[Mark] She now goes by the name Shumi Akhter,
5:43after marrying and converting to Islam.
5:48She's the mother of an eight-year-old.
5:51The world was paying attention ten years ago
5:54and said that they--
5:55We cared about the workers like you.
5:58Do you feel you've been forgotten now?
6:21[Mark] Are broken lives and broken promises
6:23the legacy of Rana Plaza?
6:26We wanted to find out.
6:29[crowd chanting]
6:33[Mark] In the aftermath of the collapse,
6:35there was outrage.
6:37[crowd chanting]
6:39In Canada, one brand in particular
6:41found itself in the crosshairs of condemnation.
6:46[Weston] This was a senseless tragedy.
6:49It should not have happened.
6:51[Mark] Loblaw President Galen Weston acknowledged
6:54Joe Fresh clothes were being made in Rana Plaza.
6:57I'm troubled that despite a clear commitment
7:00to the highest standards of ethical sourcing,
7:03our company can still be part of such an unspeakable tragedy.
7:08[crowd chanting]
7:11[Mark] Back in 2013,
7:13we investigated those high standards.
7:16We got a prison interview
7:17with Bazlus Samad Adnan.
7:21Jailed after the collapse,
7:23Joe Fresh paid him $6 million dollars a year
7:26to make clothes for them at Rana Plaza.
7:29And yet, he could not name one Loblaw employee
7:32who had ever visited his factory.
7:36Weston promised to put Loblaw staff
7:38on the ground in Bangladesh.
7:40That means an increased number of interactions
7:43with these facilities.
7:45It means spot checks at a higher frequency.
7:48[Mark] In a statement, Loblaw also promised "long-term"
7:51and "direct financial compensation"
7:53for the victims and their families.
7:55Our priority is to do what's right
7:57for those affected by the tragedy.
8:00[Mark] Loblaw then signed on to a landmark accord
8:03with other international brands
8:04that would force companies in Bangladesh
8:07to fix their safety problems
8:09or lose the business.
8:10[dramatic music playing]
8:17You may have thought the Rana disaster
8:19would be bad for business in Bangladesh,
8:22but far from it.
8:24Garment exports have more than doubled in the past decade,
8:27employing more than four million people.
8:30So, the stakes couldn't be higher
8:32for this country to reassure the world,
8:34this is a safe place to make your clothes.
8:39[Mark] The accord ushered in an era
8:40of independent inspections
8:42for fire,
8:44electrical and structural safety.
8:48And the group was led by a Canadian.
8:51The magnitude of the task, I think,
8:53was entirely lost on me.
8:55[Mark] Winnipeg's Brad Loewen is a fire protection engineer
8:58who'd never set foot in Bangladesh before.
9:01How many buildings did you encounter
9:04that had structural issues
9:05that could have made them the next Rana Plaza?
9:09Boy, I would say in the end
9:11it was on the order of 50.
9:1450 that we needed to evacuate
9:17sort of within hours
9:18of doing our initial inspection.
9:20Yeah.
9:21[reflective music playing]
9:24[Mark] Fire safety was an issue, too.
9:27In 2012, as many as 120 people died
9:30in a fire at the Tazreen factory in Bangladesh.
9:34Doors were blocked by boxes.
9:36The building lacked fire exits.
9:39And then fire protection-wise,
9:41which was, um, horrendous,
9:45like very unsafe.
9:46These buildings were fire traps?
9:48Yeah, yeah.
9:49[pensive music playing]
9:51[Mark] Loewen was handed a list of 1700 factories
9:54and given one year to inspect them all.
9:58[Brad] So, we would send in
10:01three teams of engineers.
10:03Over half of these factories
10:05had locks on their exit doors,
10:08and we made them cut them off.
10:11[Mark] But when Loewen threatened to close factories
10:13until they fixed their problems,
10:15he said he got pushback from the brands.
10:19I would get calls from the sourcing people,
10:22and saying,
10:23"Well, no,
10:24we're happy to pull out of that factory
10:26if you're saying it's unsafe.
10:28Our order should be done in two weeks,
10:30and then we will pull out".
10:32And I said, "No, no, no",
10:34but they also had to learn quite quickly that yes,
10:38in fact, if these factories
10:40were that immediately dangerous that
10:43they weren't going to finish their two-week run of jeans
10:46or what have you, that it was right now.
10:48Were you surprised
10:49that the brands were pushing back
10:50when they'd signed on to this?
10:52Yes, yeah. To the extent--
10:56Yes, I was surprised.
10:58I'm told that there was a movement
11:01behind the scenes to get you fired?
11:03Um, yeah...
11:08well, I don't know what your source is on that,
11:10-I wouldn't-- -A very, very good one.
11:12Okay, I wouldn't be surprised.
11:14But the fact is,
11:16they couldn't just outright do it.
11:18[Mark] In the ten years since the Rana disaster,
11:21fewer than 75 garment workers have died on the job.
11:26Phenomenal change has happened in last ten years.
11:29And that has happened because of the Accord.
11:34[Mark] Kalpona Akter started working
11:36in garment factories as a 12-year-old.
11:40Today, she is one of the country's
11:41fiercest advocates for workers' rights.
11:45So, this is the first time
11:47someone counted workers as a human and worker,
11:51not like any other equipment.
11:54[Mark] Factory owners didn't have a voice
11:56on the Accord's steering committee.
11:59But they did have a voice in parliament.
12:01At the time of the collapse,
12:03about 30 of the country's 300 MP's
12:06owned a garment factory.
12:08So that's why from the day one,
12:10they didn't like the Accord,
12:11and they are within the government,
12:13so they were able to make government understand
12:16that Accord ruining the industry.
12:19[Mark] One owner, whose factory was shut down
12:21after he was accused of
12:23falsifying structural safety records,
12:25took the Accord to court.
12:27A judge then kicked the Accord out of the country.
12:30Yeah, the courts decided through a case
12:34brought by a factory owner
12:36that the Accord was no longer welcome.
12:39It was clear that factory owners,
12:42you know, ran the show.
12:43Very influential.
12:46[Mark] A new inspection system would be put in place
12:49with one major difference.
12:51The powerful factory owners would help oversee it.
12:54When we come back...
12:56[Mark] Every day, workers are going to work
12:57in these buildings
12:59that have potentially life-threatening
13:01situations, hazards.
13:02Isn't this a concern?
13:03Yes, it is,
13:05but has anything happened?
13:08No, nothing has happened.
13:09Are you waiting for something to happen?
Are workers safer today?
13:13[crowd chanting]
13:17[Mark] We're in Bangladesh...
13:19[dramatic music playing]
13:22...marking ten years since the collapse of Rana Plaza.
13:26The anger,
13:28the profound sense of loss still present here today.
13:33It was a tragedy that killed 1134 people.
13:39We want to know,
13:41are the people who make our clothing
13:42any safer today?
13:45Bangladesh now has a new
13:47building safety inspection agency.
13:50We've been invited to tour a factory
13:52with their inspectors.
13:56This is Epyllion Knitwears...
14:00with 22,000 workers,
14:02one of the biggest garment making companies
14:04in Bangladesh.
14:07[speaking other language]
14:12[Mark] About 1200 workers have been called to a meeting
14:15to go over safety protocols.
14:20Urged to speak out if they see any workplace dangers.
14:26And while this feels, in part,
14:27like a performance for the inspectors...
14:31the message is clear.
14:33This is the new and improved Bangladesh.
14:37What was your memory of Rana Plaza,
14:41uh, ten years ago?
14:43Very painful memory.
14:45The feeling was sadness,
14:47urgency, need of change.
14:49All these things put together.
14:52[Mark] Abdul Haque heads the new agency
14:54called the RSC.
14:55He's the new sheriff in town
14:57after the international safety agency, the Accord,
15:01was kicked out of Bangladesh in 2020.
15:04If the Accord was so effective
15:07and helped improve building safety,
15:09why is it gone?
15:10Good question.
15:12They did not involve the garments industry
15:15from the very beginning.
15:17[Mark] It's true, factory owners
15:19weren't included in the decision making
15:21at the Accord.
15:22But that was by design.
15:25They were the ones being policed.
15:28So, they were not liking
15:29the policing approach anymore.
15:33Of course, the factory owners were--
15:35They didn't like the fact that
15:36there was this policing agency
15:38that was telling them to clean up their act.
15:41Why do the factory owners get to decide
15:43whether the Accord stays or goes?
15:45It's the Bangladesh, uh,
15:48justice system decided, not the factory owners.
15:51Based on a complaint
15:52and a case filed by the factory owners.
15:55Well, I think change is the name of the game.
15:59-So-- -Is it change for the better?
16:01It is change for the better.
16:04[Mark] Is it really change for the better?
16:06We did our own digging to find out.
16:10One of the most active Canadian clothing companies
16:13in Bangladesh is Loblaw-owned Joe Fresh.
16:17Our team took a close look at the inspection reports
16:20for the 21 factories they have used since 2019.
16:24Some serious safety concerns were raised in the reports.
16:28One factory had an antiquated
16:30fire alarm system that took years to be updated.
16:35Another factory used by Joe Fresh
16:37had a missing sprinkler system in 2017.
16:41The issue is currently listed in a report
16:43as "Pending Verification."
16:47And then, there is Meditex Industries.
16:49It has a long list of safety concerns.
16:53We asked Loblaw
16:55for an introduction to the factory owners,
16:56so we could visit.
16:58Loblaw's reply?
16:59"We are unable to at this time."
17:02[dramatic music playing]
17:06This factory makes clothes
17:07for Joe Fresh, a Canadian company.
17:11[Mark] So we decided to show up and ask for a visit ourselves.
17:16[speaking other language]
17:20[Mark] Thank you.
17:26[Mark] The manager came out to meet us.
17:33That's what we wanted to talk to you about,
17:34and this is from the RSC,
17:36and these are the inspection reports,
17:38and you've had ongoing fire safety issues.
17:42[Mark] According to a 2014 safety report,
17:45inspectors found 20 serious fire violations,
17:48including the failure to test and maintain
17:50the fire alarm system,
17:52locked emergency exit doors
17:54and emergency exit stairs that empty
17:56inside the building,
17:58instead of safely outside.
18:00Then seven more serious fire-related issues identified
18:04during four different follow-Up inspections.
18:12Can you show us that these are--
18:20We tried to get an appointment with Loblaw
18:24and they said they won't help us.
18:26[Mark] The most recent inspection report from 2021,
18:29the 13th follow-up lists four outstanding issues--
18:33those emergency stairs still exiting
18:36inside the building instead of out.
18:38The factory's plan for fixing these issues
18:41all listed as "Pending Verification."
18:47Eventually, we are asked to leave the factory.
18:50[speaking other language]
18:53Outside, the situation got tense.
18:55[speaking other language]
18:58We were filming the building from the street...
19:00What's happening?
19:02...when security tried unsuccessfully
19:05to confiscate our drone.
19:09We then wanted to speak to workers
19:11to ask if they had any safety concerns
19:13making clothes here for Canadians.
19:16We're told that after we had a meeting
19:18with the manager on the inside,
19:20he had a very stern warning for the employees,
19:23that as they leave for lunch, as they are now,
19:26"Don't talk to the Canadian journalists."
19:28[vehicle honks]
19:30And it's critical to life safety
19:33in the factories.
19:34So, to not have them done
19:35that many years later is shocking.
19:39[Mark] We took our findings to Brad Loewen,
19:41the safety expert.
19:43I mean, you can build
19:45and rebuild buildings from scratch,
19:47obviously, in a lot less than eight years.
19:50Just no excuse, really,
19:52for not having those things done,
19:55um, that many years on.
19:57Every day, workers are going to work in these buildings
20:00that have potentially life-threatening
20:02situations, hazards.
20:04In those factories,
20:05today, as we speak today,
20:07they are going to work there.
20:08Isn't this a concern?
20:10Yes, it is,
20:12but has anything happened?
20:15No, nothing has happened.
20:16Are you waiting for something to happen?
20:17No, I am not.
20:19Nothing is perfect. We are not perfect.
20:21But we're getting better and better
20:23and better and better,
20:24and stronger, and stronger and stronger.
20:26My question is,
20:28why are the Canadian companies still doing business
20:30with that factory?
20:32Did you ask them that?
20:34[Mark] It's a fair question.
20:37We must do a much better job
20:39to ensure the safety of workers producing our products
20:42in Bangladesh and around the world.
20:45[Mark] Especially, given statements
20:47made by Joe Fresh founder Joe Mimran
20:49after the Rana collapse in 2013.
20:53We are establishing a new standard at Loblaw.
20:56Any Loblaw brand's product produced for sale by us
21:00must be made in a facility
21:02that respects all local construction
21:05and building codes.
21:06[Mark] In all 21 factories used by Loblaw since 2019,
21:10we counted the number of safety violations
21:13while they were doing business there.
21:15The total, 176.
21:20We asked Loblaw about the recent concerns
21:22uncovered at the factories.
21:25They sent us a statement,
21:27saying they had since stopped using two of them,
21:29adding, "The work to ensure safe factories
21:32is an active and dynamic process
21:34and one that we take extremely seriously."
21:37Loblaw adds it has seven employees on the ground
21:40to conduct their audits at each factory.
21:46Still, concerns about safety oversight remain.
21:50In 2023,
21:51the Centre for Policy Dialogue in Bangladesh said
21:54the quality of inspections is slipping under the RSC,
21:58noting a recent increase in workplace accidents,
22:02an increase in factory fires...
22:05as well as "indirect pressure
22:07(from employers and government agencies)"
22:09that is preventing RSC inspectors
22:12from "conducting an independent assessment."
22:15The successor of the Accord
22:17are not running in the same way
22:19the Accord used to run in here.
22:21So, it is totally different.
22:24So, the brands, I would say,
22:26you know, inside of them,
22:27they were happy when it has been kicked out.
22:30[Mark] None of this comes as a surprise
22:32to workers' rights activist Kalpona Akter.
22:36[Mark] Who is holding the factory owners accountable?
22:38Who's making them clean up their act?
22:40It should be the brands
22:41and it should be the RSC board of directors.
22:44We can ask them this-- this question that
22:47what the hell happening?
22:48[Mark] So you say it should be,
22:50but is that actually happening?
22:51I don't think so.
22:52That's why, you know, we lost our confidence
22:55on the RSC.
22:57[Mark] When we come back,
22:59the workers' struggle to survive...
23:00[gunfire]
23:02...turns into a fight for their lives.
23:04[police siren blares]
23:05[Mark] I went to visit a worker.
23:07At the end of the month,
23:08she can barely afford enough food to eat.
23:11She's sleeping on a floor.
23:12Is this a way to treat somebody
23:14in a profitable industry?
23:17[chanting]
Demanding action
23:20[Mark] These are the people
23:21who make your clothes in Bangladesh...
23:25taking to the streets in 2023
23:27because they say they're underpaid
23:29and perpetually poor.
23:31[chanting]
23:33[gunfire]
23:36There were many bloody clashes between police and protesters.
23:40[whistle blows]
23:42This is the dark side
23:43of those cheap and cheerful clothes we buy.
23:47[speaking other language]
23:54This is a garment workers' protest
23:56that has come here to the site of the Rana Plaza disaster.
24:00They are demanding an increase in their minimum wage.
24:03Currently the minimum wage in Bangladesh is the lowest
24:06in the region of garment making countries.
24:09They are looking for an almost 100% increase.
24:14[Mark] In 2023, the lowest monthly minimum wage
24:17for a garment worker in Bangladesh,
24:19was around $98.
24:20Compare that to, say, Vietnam, $178
24:24and in China and Cambodia, $274.
24:29Now, nothing stops a Canadian company
24:31from paying more than the minimum wage.
24:33But do they?
24:35This report from 2021 considered that very question.
24:39The Canadian Steelworkers Humanity Fund wanted to know
24:43how do Canadian clothing companies compare
24:45to the rest of the international brands
24:48manufacturing in Bangladesh.
24:50Our biggest finding
24:51was that workers working for Canadian brands
24:53are no better off
24:55than workers working for other brands.
24:58[Mark] Sushmita Preetha is the researcher
25:00and author behind the findings.
25:02She spoke to 35 different workers
25:04in factories used by five iconic Canadian brands.
25:08Including Loblaw-owned Joe Fresh.
25:12I think the brands really need to stop
25:14the double standard, you know?
25:16I think they talk about commitment to workers' rights
25:19only as a PR strategy, you know,
25:21because they don't want their woke consumers to--
25:24to have to-- to have to deal with the guilt
25:27of buying from sweatshops in Bangladesh.
25:29[Mark] A living wage in Bangladesh,
25:31according to the Asian Floor Wage Alliance,
25:34is around 650 Canadian dollars a month.
25:38Workers in the Canadian factories from the study
25:40earned between 73 and 100 dollars per month.
25:45[Mark] Who are you directing your anger towards most
25:48in this equation?
25:50Maybe it's time for Canada to actually stand up
25:52and say, "You know, we are the ones who will be fighting
25:54for a living wage for workers across supply chains."
25:58So, I think it's important for consumers to know
26:01the real price of the--
26:03of the products that they are buying.
26:05-[Mark] The human price. -The human price, yeah.
26:07[horns honking]
26:09[Mark] We wanted to see that human price for ourselves.
26:14So we travelled to one of the biggest garment districts
26:17in Bangladesh.
26:20[Mark] This is Savar,
26:21which is home to some 400 garment factories
26:23that employ half a million people.
26:26And we wanted to talk to some of them
26:28about wages and working conditions.
26:30But time and time again, they told us they were afraid.
26:33They felt by speaking out, they'd get fired.
26:36Until one brave woman came forward
26:39and said she'd talk.
26:43[Mark] We came to this compound...
26:47where thousands of garment workers live...
26:52down this small alley...
26:54where people are crammed into tiny rooms, side by side.
27:00This is where we met Lazina Akhter.
27:03Lazina, thank you so much
27:06for agreeing to talk to us.
27:08You came 300 kilometers from your own village
27:10to come here.
27:12Why did you want to work in a garment factory?
27:13Why not another job?
27:20[Mark] The 24-year-old has been working at this factory
27:23for the last year and a half,
27:25making clothes for Joe Fresh.
27:28She works 11 hours a day.
27:30Six days a week.
27:33And how much are you paid to make pants for Joe Fresh?
27:42[Mark] On its website, Loblaw promises
27:44workers in its supply chain will get "fair wages"
27:47and "the right to an adequate standard of living."
27:50Including "adequate food and nutrition,
27:52clothing and housing."
27:56-It is my home. -Thank you. Okay. Thank you.
27:59[Mark] But this is all Lazina can afford.
28:03A ten by ten cement room
28:06that she shares out of necessity with a roommate.
28:12Both sleeping on the floor.
28:14No mattress.
28:16No closets.
28:17So this is where you would keep your food?
28:20[Mark] No kitchen.
28:21Where do you cook, where do you--
28:22So, tell me, what's it like for you to live--
28:25Can you afford your cost?
28:27Can you afford your food,
28:28your-- your home here?
28:30How do you get by?
28:37[Mark] Lazina's story isn't unique.
28:40There are around four million garment workers
28:43in Bangladesh,
28:44about 65% of them women.
28:48Even the simple things in life...
28:51a luxury they can't afford.
28:55Do you have enough money to eat?
29:08-I am not happy. -[Mark] You're not happy.
29:13[Mark] In a statement, Loblaw says
29:15it supports the government's decision
29:17to significantly increase the minimum wage
29:20in the last ten years, adding,
29:21"We are extremely proud of what's been done to date,
29:24and we continue to be a part
29:26of the solution for the future."
29:31A couple of kilometres away from Lazina's cement room,
29:34the factory owners.
29:374500 members, represented by the BGMEA...
29:41the Garment Manufacturers Association...
29:45headquartered in this brand-new
29:47gleaming steel and glass building.
29:50Complete with an infinity pool.
29:54And a conference space that looks like
29:56the White House Situation Room.
30:00[Mark] And is this Savar, the area?
30:02[Faruque] This is Savar, the area.
30:03[Mark] And that's where a lot of garment factories...
30:05[Faruque] Garment factories this part, yeah.
30:07[Mark] So, this is your kingdom out here?
30:10[Faruque] Oh. [laughs]
30:12[Mark] Faruque Hassan is a garment factory owner,
30:15and the head of the BGMEA.
30:17[Mark] I went to visit a worker.
30:19At the end of the month, she can barely afford
30:22enough food to eat.
30:23She's sleeping on a floor.
30:25She doesn't even have a mattress.
30:27Is this a way to treat somebody in a profitable industry?
30:30Is that fair?
30:33We are working on that.
30:34And I believe that what you have seen...
30:38you will not see in future.
30:40Because we are trying to make the salary
30:43a higher salary.
30:44But you've been in business for years.
30:46This isn't like you just started this business.
30:48We should pay them so that they can perform,
30:51they can be happy with their wages
30:54so that they can work happily,
30:56because happy workers is a good worker.
30:58[chanting]
31:00[Mark] So ask yourself,
31:01do these look like happy workers?
31:05In November, after months of protests,
31:07the government increased the minimum wage
31:10to roughly $150 a month.
31:14Still more than $500 below
31:17what's considered a living wage in Bangladesh,
31:20raising the question,
31:21who's really making the decisions here?
31:25Can you tell me how many politicians
31:29are also factory owners?
31:31I would say that, uh,
31:34at least, uh, 15.
31:37Do you see that as a conflict of interest?
31:41-No, I don't think so. -Why not?
31:42Because the government is influential in setting wages.
31:45I don't think so is a conflict of interest
31:48because they are doing politics
31:51or they are serving the people,
31:53so that's a different area.
31:56[Mark] But it's not just run-of-the-mill politicians
31:59in the garment business.
32:00Last year that included the country's commerce minister,
32:03the state minister for foreign affairs,
32:05the finance minister,
32:06and the state minister for energy.
32:09All factory owners.
32:12Sushmita Preetha also runs the opinion section
32:15of the country's most prominent
32:17English language newspaper.
32:18After the recent wage decision,
32:20she wrote a scathing column.
32:22Writing, "the wage board has put forth the same proposal
32:25as that of the owners,
32:27which makes the answer to the question
32:29of 'whose interests is the board really protecting?'
32:32painfully obvious."
32:34It is certainly a problem
32:35that factory owners have such sway over policymakers.
32:38One, because many of them have factories themselves and--
32:41Or two, because they are, you know,
32:43really close to people in positions of power.
32:46The concern
32:49we've also heard is that,
32:52if fact-- if workers are protesting,
32:54factory owners call the police
32:56and the police come out
32:58and they beat up the protesters.
33:01Normally, it is not happening here.
33:03I-- I can-- I can assure you.
33:05Do you think it is safe
33:08in this current environment for-- for workers to protest
33:12if they are angry?
33:13Or are they putting their lives in danger
33:17if they protest against a factory?
33:19Yeah, it is safe
33:22[Mark] The workers' fight for better wages
33:24took a deadly turn here.
33:26This is the Prince Jacquard Sweater Ltd.
33:28They make name brands sold in Europe,
33:30the US and Canada.
33:32Workers here were protesting,
33:34demanding two months of back pay.
33:36A union organizer, Shahidul Islam, was brought in
33:39to try to negotiate a settlement.
33:41He had a meeting in here.
33:43He came out and was attacked by a mob,
33:45kicked and beaten mercilessly.
33:48Hours later in hospital, the union activist was dead.
33:53[Mark] In the months following his murder,
33:55four more workers were killed by police
33:58during protests.
34:00The law enforcement is an extension
34:01of factory owners.
34:03That should not be the case.
34:04The law enforcement should be there
34:05to protect the people of Bangladesh,
34:07not the factory owners of Bangladesh.
34:08We tried to contact workers
34:12for many weeks.
34:13Nobody wanted to talk to us. Why?
34:16Because they're afraid if they talk to us,
34:19they will be fired.
34:21-Uh, I don't think so. -No, no.
34:23It is. They are telling us this.
34:26This isn't my imagination.
34:27We don't have any blacklist system
34:30or we do-- we don't fire, like that way
34:33because they have all the rights
34:35and all the rights they have.
34:38[Mark] We learned after this interview,
34:39as many as 4,000 workers were fired for protesting,
34:43according to the labour organisation,
34:45the Clean Clothes Campaign.
34:47Sixty-two criminal cases were filed
34:49by factory owners and the police
34:51against 23,000 workers,
34:53sending many into hiding.
34:54115 protesters have been detained,
34:58according to the Workers Rights Consortium.
35:04But factory owners say don't blame them,
35:07blame the powerful international brands
35:09who, they say, are putting the squeeze
35:11on owners and workers alike
35:13to make clothes for the cheapest possible price.
35:16They are not doing it fair pricing
35:19or ethical sourcing.
35:21Why not?
35:23Because this believe that they can--
35:27they can get more cheaper prices from Bangladesh.
35:30And that's why they always tried
35:32to squeeze the prices on that.
35:35[Mark] When we come back...
35:48[Mark] My name is Mark Kelley, I'm with The Fifth Estate.
35:54-[whistles blowing] -[clamoring]
Loblaws’ Joe Fresh statement
36:00[Mark] Rana Plaza collapsed a decade ago
36:02in Bangladesh,
36:04but the Canadian connection to the disaster still lives on.
36:08In 2013, as Bangladesh was mourning
36:10the loss of 1134 lives...
36:15Joe Fresh was busy selling.
36:16["Bom Bom" by Sam and the Womp playing]
36:19The pitch? Cheap and cheerful clothes
36:22with an emphasis on "cheap."
36:24So how much was A Joe Fresh T-Shirt
36:26that year?
36:28As low as eight bucks.
36:31And how does that compare to today?
36:33Well, even in the face of today's inflation,
36:35a T-shirt can still sell for just over eight bucks.
36:40Convert that to 2013 dollars and that's even less.
36:44So how is that possible?
36:48Right, I mean, this is a big question.
36:50The business model has to be changed.
36:52[Mark] The business model?
36:54It's called the race to the bottom.
36:56Brands demand the cheapest price
36:58or else they take their business elsewhere
37:01In the five years,
37:02following the collapse of Rana Plaza,
37:04the price brands are willing to pay
37:06has actually gone down...
37:08on average by 13%.
37:11While all other costs at the factory have gone up.
37:15Power, materials, equipment.
37:17Yet, workers still live in poverty.
37:20You know, I spent already 32 years of my life
37:24in this sector,
37:25and I cannot wait for another 40 years
37:27to get living wage.
37:28What we need living wage now, now.
37:30And the brand should be act now.
37:33[Mark] In 2022,
37:35Kalpona Akter came all the way to Toronto
37:37with her message, aimed directly at Joe Fresh.
37:55[Mark] She's not the only one trying to get the attention
37:57of Joe Fresh.
37:59We went to their headquarters to try to get an interview.
38:03[Mark] My name is Mark Kelley, I'm with The Fifth Estate.
38:05[woman] Nice to see you.
38:07[Mark] So we have been trying to get in touch with you
38:09for a couple of weeks.
38:12Well, we have plenty of questions
38:14for Loblaw's Joe Fresh.
38:16Like, what happened to all of those promises
38:18to do better for the workers making their clothes
38:20in Bangladesh.
38:22Ten years ago, we requested an interview
38:24with Loblaw's CEO, Galen Weston.
38:27He declined.
38:28Ten years and all those promises later,
38:31we asked again.
38:32And he declined. Again.
38:37[Mark] Instead, Loblaw sent us a statement.
38:40"The relief and rebuild effort over the last ten years
38:43has helped improve the lives of millions
38:45and the country's economy.
38:47As part of the effort, we have provided
38:49more than $5 million in compensation
38:51for the individuals and the families
38:53affected by the collapse of Rana Plaza.
38:56We remain committed to transparency
38:58and accountability in our global supply chain,
39:01and continue to collaborate with stakeholders,
39:03factory partners, and industry organizations
39:07to drive positive change
39:08and protect the rights and well-being of workers
39:11where our products are made."
39:18As for the Accord,
39:19it may have been kicked out of Bangladesh...
39:23but now, Canadian Brad Loewen
39:24has taken the proven safety inspection model
39:27to Pakistan.
39:29The International Accord is poised to expand
39:31to garment factories in Morocco,
39:33Sri Lanka and India.
39:36[Brad] The fact that they're being welcomed
39:37in other countries
39:39speaks to the importance that people are putting on--
39:43on factory safety.
39:45As far as Bangladesh
39:47sort of moving away from the Accord,
39:50kicking out, uh--
39:51And so, yeah, that, uh,
39:53took the course that it took.
39:55♪
40:03[Mark] For Lazina Akhter,
40:05who struggles to get by working six days a week
40:08making clothes for Joe Fresh...
40:11she has a dream for something better.
40:15On her one day off a week,
40:18she's studying textile engineering
40:20at a local university.
40:22Her goal?
40:23To be a force for change
40:25as a leader in the garment industry.
40:47[Mark] But a remade in Bangladesh garment industry
40:50won't help Shumi.
40:52Because of her injuries, she's says she's too slow
40:54to make fast fashion.
40:57And she's now pregnant with her second child.
41:01Although she received an initial compensation payment
41:04of $12,000...
41:06Shumi still needs to pay
41:07about $1,200 each year
41:11to replace her prosthetic limb.
41:15That's almost the annual salary for a worker
41:18for clothes made in Bangladesh.
41:34[Mark] Shumi had never seen
41:36the documentary we made featuring her ten years ago.
41:40So we showed it to her.
41:44It's the only time she smiled during our visit.
41:51[Mark] A smile that quickly vanished
41:53when I asked her about her future.
41:55When I met you ten years ago,
41:57you told me that when you were a child,
41:59you had dreams.
42:00You had dreams of a-- of a big life.
42:04What are your dreams today?
42:11[Mark] What would you like to say to Canadians?