The Future of AI Automation & Publishing | Darsh Singh | English Motivation Podcast

0:00Hey guys.

0:01Welcome, welcome Darsha. I want you to

0:02meet two of our power publishers with

0:04our company with Momentum Tech and

0:06they're partnering with us and they're

0:08called it's perfect publishing.

0:10This is Dr.

0:11Ken Rashad and Dr. known as Dr. Smiley

0:15and then Mike Dreger. They're both

0:17publishers. Mike is an authority

0:19marketer.

0:20He's helped I can let these guys

0:22introduce themselves. But what I want to

0:24talk about right now, we're writing the

0:25book. Darsha, I want to give you a

0:27chance to talk a little bit and talk to

0:29these guys from a publishing publisher

0:32standpoint. They understand the the

0:34shift in the market, right? When it

0:36comes to publishing. They they're on the

0:38cutting edge. They want to leverage AI

0:40for their authors to

0:42get that book written, right? That they

0:44want to.

0:45They're 100% in with our company we and

0:48we're putting their expertise around

0:50this.

0:52>> Awesome, sure. Thank you. Thanks. Nice

0:54to meet you. Hi.

0:55>> Hi.

0:57>> So I was listening to you guys a little

1:00bit and while you were talking, I'm

1:02telling you whatever you were saying is

1:04already changed in that much time period

1:06itself. Like so I'll give you an

1:07example.

1:08>> Wow.

1:09>> So we So we don't really wait for the

1:13product how we

1:15how we do things is basically we don't

1:16really wait for the product or the thing

1:18to be perfect. We launch it and then we

1:20keep making it better and better and

1:21better.

1:22Um and why that's a right strategy is

1:26also because the technology is moving so

1:29fast that the gap between the

1:31understanding of the people and the

1:32technology is increasing every single

1:34day. So we want to kind of put a pin,

1:37you know?

1:38We want to leave our mark and launch

1:40something as soon as we can and then we

1:42cover that gap. It's a little easier

1:43because people will take a little bit of

1:45time to come over there and then we

1:46build whatever is the gap and we

1:48automate it for that particular app. So

1:50what when I when I said that you know,

1:53why things have changed Uh, since we

1:55launched this app already the new update

1:57is going to be coming in uh, within this

1:59week itself.

2:00Specifically, I'll talk about formatting

2:02itself. So,

2:04formatting, it it there there are

2:05different kind of formattings as well.

2:06So, when it comes to um,

2:09self-help or personality development

2:10kind of books,

2:11most of your books are like they're

2:13they're justified. Like they don't have

2:15sentences ending one uh, you know,

2:18unequally. So, here you will this

2:22uh, book generator will identify if you

2:24don't really select it to self-help book

2:26by yourself, it'll still be able to

2:27identify from the topic itself as to

2:29what kind of book that is. And if it's a

2:31self-help book, it's going to justify

2:33it. If it's a novel or it's a fiction,

2:35then it's not going to justify it. Also,

2:38it'll understand, you know, the specific

2:40the margins that have to be on the sides

2:42of the book for in for in case if it has

2:44to be printed out, right? So, the on the

2:46left page, the right side of the page

2:49has to have a higher margin and the

2:51right page has to have a higher margin

2:53on the left side so that when these

2:54pages they combine they join, they

2:56should you should still be able to read

2:57the words out of it. Then when it comes

3:00to when the page starts, when the page

3:01ends, the proper headlines,

3:04the uh, headlines, the font of the

3:06headline has to be a little bigger.

3:09All of that stuff

3:11is going to be automated.

3:13All of that stuff. And so, it already

3:16does format the stuff, but what I'm

3:17talking to you about these particular

3:19nuances, they're not yet there as of

3:21this second, but will be there by the

3:23end of the day tomorrow. So, all of

3:25these things um,

3:27which you needed a book you needed

3:30somebody to format the book and all of

3:31that stuff, everything will be automated

3:33in this particular book itself. So, I

3:35like to kind of think ourselves as,

3:38you know,

3:39specifically the engineers that make

3:41bridge. So, we have people that are

3:44trying to get onto this boat called AI

3:47and then there is AI itself and it the

3:50more you try to catch it, the further it

3:51goes. So, we we don't want you to

3:53struggle, right? We you can you can be

3:56whatever you're doing. You don't have to

3:57quit your jobs. You don't have to kind

3:58of put like five extra hours every

4:00single day to learn something new

4:02uh to catch this thing. Let this run at

4:04whatever speed it's running. We're going

4:06to create a bridge between where you are

4:08and where this technology is and we will

4:10automate everything that we can in that

4:11entire process and we going to make it

4:13so simple to use that you your learning

4:17curve is going to be as

4:20little as possible that we can make it,

4:21right? And we're going to give you all

4:23the options to customize all the stuff.

4:25Right now,

4:26um the Book Writer that you have, once

4:28this book is written, um

4:30you don't really have an option to

4:32rearrange the chapters. By the end of

4:33the day tomorrow, you will be able to

4:34rearrange the chapters. Um you will be

4:37able to add additional chapters even

4:39after the book is written. So, all of

4:40those features that we understand are

4:42needed are not there yet because we

4:44wanted to launch the Book Writer first.

4:47It still does a great job, but sometimes

4:49people want to customize it a little bit

4:50more, which we're going to bring more

4:52and more options, more and more features

4:54into it by the end of the day tomorrow.

4:56But, the point that I'm basically trying

4:57to make is

4:59if you're feeling anxious or whatever

5:01reasons that you're not able to, you

5:03know, reach the stage of where the AI

5:05is, you don't have to worry about that

5:06if you are with us because we're

5:08creating that bridge where you just have

5:10to stay here and we're going to bridge

5:12that gap for you and we're going to give

5:13you whatever you need at the stage that

5:15you are at and

5:17that's that's one thing.

5:20Second is

5:21when you'll use these apps, you will see

5:23that they're not individual apps that

5:26generally what you see in the market.

5:28You won't really You don't really have

5:30an app that writes the book and then

5:32there's another app that formats the

5:33book and then there's another back book

5:35app that generates the book covers for

5:37you. It does all of these things in one

5:40app itself. It's like an ecosystem.

5:42Similar to this, other apps that are

5:44there are also created in form of an

5:48ecosystem itself, where everything that

5:50you need pertaining to that particular

5:52thing are within that app itself.

5:55There's another app that we have, it's

5:56called Vidd Ed, which is video editing.

5:59Um you put a long-form video on it, 1

6:01hour, 1 and 1/2 hours.

6:03It goes through your entire video, even

6:05if there are multiple speakers.

6:07For instance, let's say we're recording

6:09this call. We have four speakers right

6:11now uh on camera, and we can Any one of

6:15us can start talking. It's going to

6:16detect who's speaking, and it's also

6:18going to detect as to what is a viral

6:20content in the entire 1-hour video. And

6:22it's going to give you short clips, you

6:24know, it's going to create those shorts

6:25for you that you can with the captions.

6:28So, why I'm talking about all of this is

6:31that it's not only going to create

6:32shorts for you, it's also going to

6:35create captions for you. And then not

6:36only captions, it's going to give you an

6:38option to edit the captions, because

6:39sometimes we pronounce things

6:41differently, AI takes those things

6:42differently, and it says

6:44one word. So, if I'm if I'm saying

6:46"there", it could be spelled in two

6:48different ways, right? Now, if it's

6:50spelled it incorrectly, you can go in

6:51and edit that and

6:53make sure that it's correct. And so, all

6:55of those things, right, where it's a

6:58part of one ecosystem, you don't really

7:00have to edit and

7:02video, add captions somewhere else, and

7:05you know, do other things some in some

7:07other app. Everything is in just one

7:08app. So, all of these are like

7:09ecosystems.

7:11Another app that we have

7:13is called AIO LaunchPad. Um what that

7:16does is, all you got to do is put the

7:18name of your business, put the website

7:20of your business.

7:21And it understands your entire business,

7:26uh not just your business, but it also

7:27looks at your competitors that you have.

7:29Uh it's right in the middle, uh AIO

7:31LaunchPad.

7:33Yeah. So, what it does is it understands

7:36who your competitors are, gives you the

7:37list of your competitors, and you

7:39validate if that list is correct or not.

7:40It also gives you the option to add

7:42competitors, remove competitors, or

7:44update them if they're not correct for

7:46whatever reasons. And then when you try

7:48when you process that entire thing, this

7:50takes a this takes time to give you the

7:52results. The reason for that is

7:54what this app does is

7:56it looks at the industry that your

7:57business belongs to and that is where it

7:59brings your competitors from as well.

8:01And then it looks at what are the

8:03questions that people are asking for

8:04that in that industry.

8:07It takes those questions and run those

8:10questions from on multiple LLMs. It goes

8:12to ChatGPT, Claude, Gemini, Grok,

8:15Perplexity, runs those questions, asks

8:17those questions from

8:19these different LLMs.

8:20Takes the results in and then it finds

8:23out how many times was your business

8:26uh

8:26cited versus your competitors and it

8:28gives you those scores, your visibility

8:30scores.

8:31While it does that, it also goes onto

8:34your website and it looks for the things

8:35that are missing on your website that

8:37should be there.

8:38So right now it does that entire audit

8:40end-to-end.

8:42We're going to take it to the next level

8:43where it's not only going to give you

8:45the recommendations, but if you're able

8:47to connect your website with this

8:49particular app, it's going to go in and

8:50make the changes in the content on your

8:52website wherever it is built.

8:55Uh keeping the answer engine

8:56optimization in mind.

8:58Right? So that's where we are taking

9:01this entire thing to. It already is

9:03super super powerful as it is right now,

9:06but we're going to we understand what

9:07the next steps are and we're going to

9:09put all of those steps

9:11in all of those apps that are not there

9:12yet.

9:13There's another app that we have which

9:14is a website builder app um

9:16where it you can build landing pages,

9:19you can build funnels, you can build

9:21websites. All you got to do is just put

9:23the name of your brand, clone a page

9:25basically if you have a page somewhere

9:27else that you want to clone, you put the

9:28URL in, just verify that that's is your

9:31page because we don't want you to clone

9:33other people's pages. So you verify that

9:35and we record that as you verified it.

9:37So,

9:38website basically you put the brand

9:40name, you just put what your business

9:42does. That's it. Just two information,

9:44two pieces of information that are

9:45mandatory. Other The rest of the pieces

9:47are not mandatory, they're optional, but

9:49the more information you provide the

9:50better the results are going to be. And

9:52it's going to give you a

9:53at least a five-page or website that is

9:56going to talk about your business, all

9:57of those things in detail. And not only

10:00that, it will be by default

10:04AI optimized, which means it will start

10:07ranking on ChatGPT by itself over a

10:10period of time. Not only that, it's

10:12going to put the contact form on your

10:14website.

10:16And whenever somebody fills a contact

10:17form out, that information is going to

10:20go into the CRM for that particular

10:22project. You don't really have to

10:23connect with the CRM either. The CRM is

10:25already connected with it.

10:26Not only that, you can add tracking

10:29pixels onto the website or your funnel

10:31or your landing page and see where the

10:32traffic is coming from.

10:34Not only that, if you want to take this

10:36website and connect it with an external

10:37CRM, you can do that, too.

10:39So, all of these things are happening.

10:42And then, once it's built, the you get

10:44two options

10:46two ways to edit the website. One is you

10:49prompt it. If you want to make any

10:50changes, you just prompt it and say,

10:51"Hey, I want to change this." and it

10:53changes that. Or you can go into a

10:54visual editor where you can actually

10:56select each and every element and make

10:58changes to that element, whatever

11:00changes you want to make. So, it gives

11:02you full control of your entire online

11:05presence as well.

11:08And these are like these three apps that

11:09we've talked about and, you know,

11:11>> Yeah. Let me back up. Let me back up Let

11:12me back up if I can cuz I want these

11:14guys to understand,

11:16you know, it was probably three or three

11:18years ago approximately Darsh you and I

11:20met and we

11:22um we met online, right? Through AI and

11:25AI community. And um

11:27you know, I wanted to say something

11:29because I've learned a a from Darsh.

11:32I want you guys to know that, right?

11:33Like really he was one of my personal,

11:36you know, mentors to learn from him and

11:38what him and his team do. So, we're so

11:40glad that he's

11:41you know, he's a strategic partner with

11:43us with Momentum Tech. You can see his

11:46his technology background and his

11:48expertise and his commitment to

11:50consistently improve things, right?

11:53So, and anyway, I just I have to say

11:56that, you know, what do you like

11:58you think I know a little bit about AI?

12:00I mean, this guy knows a lot about AI,

12:01right? A lot and and but together

12:04though, that's a team, you know, we get

12:06to work together and we work together

12:08really well, right? I mean, Darsh is

12:10like he's he's like a

12:12a friend that I

12:14thankful to have, right? And thankful

12:16for his knowledge. So, Darsh, I'm going

12:18to thank you first of all for being here

12:19and spending time with us. Yes.

12:21>> Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you

12:23for inviting

12:24>> Yes. So, Dr. Smiley, you're probably

12:27these guys are probably already blown

12:28away with your knowledge and what you're

12:30saying already. It's like

12:31>> All right, I'm already creating a

12:33checklist of things I want.

12:35>> [laughter]

12:37>> Hey, so these guys can bring a lot of

12:38great formulas like Mike has a lot of

12:40background in publishing. I mean, I

12:42think it's important for you guys and

12:43maybe they can add some elements to help

12:45us with the improving the app the book

12:48writing app as time goes on, right?

12:50>> Sure.

12:51>> And they have frameworks that they that

12:53that they've used, but you know, that's

12:55that's a beautiful thing about AI. If

12:57you can think it, if you can imagine it,

12:58if you can visualize it,

13:01most of the time we can add to it,

13:02right? And make it better, right?

13:04>> be cool to have a tool that was a

13:07competitor analysis tool that did the

13:09SWOT analysis. Right? That would be way

13:13cool to have, too.

13:15Um I was thinking about that when you

13:17were doing the AEO thing, right? To kind

13:19of what's their weakness, what's their

13:21strengths, right? Blah blah blah.

13:23What product offers they have, etc. But

13:25yeah, I'm excited.

13:27>> It That part is done in the niche

13:29finder. So, there's an app that's called

13:30niche finder.

13:31>> Right.

13:32>> So, you just answer four questions over

13:34there, which is So, if you can open that

13:36which is what are you interested in,

13:37what's your what's your experience, what

13:39are you good at, and what do you love

13:41doing?

13:42Just based on these four questions only,

13:44it's going to give you four to five

13:46different niches that you can pick and

13:48choose from, and it's going to rate all

13:49of those I I think you should put some

13:51information and just just for test,

13:53let's let's, you know, go through this.

13:57What this does is it basically creates

13:58four to five different niches for you to

14:00pick and choose from.

14:02And every niche that it presents to you,

14:04it gives you parameters as to why this

14:07niche is good and why this is not.

14:09Um and it gives you total addressable

14:11markets, total uh serviceable

14:13addressable market, serviceable

14:14obtainable market, all those sections

14:16for that niche

14:18for yourself.

14:20It also ranks what are

14:22how high is the pain point for the

14:24particular niche. Does that niche have

14:27money to pay you?

14:28Um is it a growing or a stagnant niche?

14:31It gives you all of those parameters.

14:32And then when you decide which niche you

14:34want to get into,

14:35the next stage that it shows you is the

14:38target audience. Like, what is your

14:39target market? And not just that target

14:41market, but it also tells you what are

14:43your competitors doing in that target

14:46market. What are their strengths and

14:47what are your weaknesses? What are their

14:48weaknesses?

14:50>> That's awesome.

14:50>> Then it also tells you what your ideal

14:52customer profile should be. Then it also

14:55tells you what your offer should look

14:57like. It kind of devises an offer for

14:59you. And then at the end it also gives

15:01you an go-to-market plan as well as to

15:03okay, so now you have all of this

15:04information, these are your next steps

15:06that you need to take.

15:07>> That's awesome.

15:09That is powerful.

15:11>> This is This is a very powerful app.

15:12Like, um it's going to take about two to

15:14three minutes to show you the entire

15:17um

15:18>> I mean, you're you're painting a road

15:20map it Aunt Betty and Uncle Bob, you're

15:22painting a road map for them to be able

15:25to do something and make money with and

15:28you know, you know,

15:31make a living for their family. And that

15:33road map then takes them to the other

15:35tools, right? The you know, I always

15:37like I don't know if you heard before

15:39you came on, but like I am I always talk

15:41about do a course first because then you

15:43can take the transcription and turn that

15:44into a book, but with the tools that you

15:46have, you can you can make the course,

15:48you can take the book and then turn that

15:50in record your audio

15:53of you and then go make the course of it

15:55and and if I fits within your road map

15:58that you just created and all the tools,

16:00I mean this is this is just so powerful.

16:03Powerful. Great job.

16:05>> Are you also doing the analysis or

16:08statistics with regard to an Amazon

16:09launch? Do you have

16:11Is that Is that part of the capability?

16:13>> No.

16:14>> Okay.

16:15>> No.

16:15But that's a to-do list.

16:17>> It is a to-do list because if you look

16:19at who your competitors are, you can

16:20actually track when they're doing

16:22launches or get an idea of what your

16:24competition is on Amazon, which makes a

16:26big difference out there and how much

16:27effort you have to put in.

16:28>> Right.

16:29>> Well, and even knowing just the

16:31categories to put it in.

16:32>> Exactly.

16:34>> That would be huge. I know there's tools

16:36out there already, but having that in

16:39That's awesome. Now it it'll export a

16:41report.

16:43>> Um yeah, no, and it it this one does not

16:46export the report, but it also gives you

16:47the sources where it sourced the

16:49information from. So it's not

16:50hallucinating. A lot of times people

16:52don't really understand the difference

16:53between real information and information

16:55that chat GPT or any other platform

16:58just, you know,

16:59gave it to you and whether it's um

17:02whether you can validate that or not. So

17:04all of these things that you're see that

17:05you're seeing are based on uh

17:07valid sources and it provides you the

17:09sources that it got that information

17:10from as well. If you scroll back up,

17:12please.

17:14Uh just stop anywhere. So if you see,

17:16you know, that you've got those

17:17parameters. You've got pain severity,

17:20you've got Scroll back up a little bit,

17:22please.

17:23>> Back up. Yeah.

17:24>> Yeah, a little bit up. So, you see there

17:25like there's pain severity in those bars

17:27that you see. There's pain severity,

17:28willingness to pay, targetability, and

17:31what is the margin, what is the growth

17:32in that particular sector. So, you see

17:34all of those parameters as well uh

17:37when it comes to choosing a market. And

17:38then it shows you the TAM, which is

17:40total addressable market, serviceable

17:41addressable market, serviceable

17:43obtainable market, so on and so forth.

17:45And that's just first step. So, when you

17:47select a niche that you want, just

17:49select any one of these.

17:52So, now you go to target market, the

17:54next step.

17:57And the When you generate this, you'll

17:59see what your target market looks like

18:01in detail. And then your competitors,

18:03and then your ideal customer profile,

18:05and then your offer, and your

18:06go-to-market plan, the entire thing.

18:08Every page that you will see is going to

18:10be as detailed as the first page that

18:11you just saw. But now these pages are

18:13going to be based on that one specific

18:15niche that you picked up. The first was

18:17just to let you know these five, six

18:19niches are there for you to pick from.

18:20You pick a niche, and then the rest of

18:21the stuff just builds on top of it.

18:24>> Mhm.

18:26>> Awesome.

18:27>> Powerful.

18:28>> Here's the book.

18:29It's done.

18:31Okay. Explain this Explain what it did

18:34here, Gosh, so

18:37>> Yeah.

18:37>> So, yeah. It basically after it

18:39generated the book, it understood what

18:41kind of book that was, and it generated

18:42the book cover as well. So, when you

18:44press continue,

18:49So, that's your book right there. Uh on

18:51the left-hand side, you'll see all the

18:52chapters.

18:54And as I was sharing with you, you right

18:56now you can't rearrange chapters. You

18:57will be able to rearrange, you'll be

18:58able to add more chapters, and all that

19:00stuff that'll be there by the end of the

19:01day tomorrow. So, another thing that we

19:04noticed was that

19:06the gap between

19:08how AI writes and how human beings write

19:11is it's decreasing. You it's getting

19:14diff- more and more difficult to

19:15understand whether that was written by

19:16an AI whether that was written by a

19:18human. But that's you can still find out

19:20the difference in about next 1 and 1/2 2

19:22years probably you'll not be able to

19:23make out a difference. But until then

19:26um

19:27Draft2Digital

19:29uh is another publisher, right? Uh they

19:31don't they don't allow AI-written books.

19:34They they just reject your books

19:35straight out. On Amazon you can mention

19:38that it's an AI-written book and you can

19:39still publish it.

19:40Uh Draft2Digital don't allow you that.

19:43Um

19:44you can actually humanize the content as

19:46well once it's written. Right? So when

19:48you click on humanize it basically

19:49humanizes it. And there is a specific

19:51humanizer as well. It's going to take

19:53some time so I would not recommend going

19:54through the entire thing right now. But

19:57it humanizes a chapter for you which

19:59takes that AI language out and makes it

20:01more human-sounding. So your chances of

20:04getting that approved on Draft2Digital

20:05go way higher than what they would be if

20:07you just take this book out right there

20:09and try

20:10Right? So kind of we we've thought about

20:12all of those things and they're already

20:13here.

20:16>> Beautiful. So far what

20:17>> Now you could go let's say you already

20:18have a

20:19um a book you could upload it and have

20:22it humanized. Let's say you used AI. I

20:24mean if like me if

20:27if you record the course and transcribe

20:29and turn it into a book it's you

20:30anyways, right? But it's still put some

20:32AI in there and let's say I want to

20:34upload. Can I upload straight just for

20:37the humanizer part?

20:38>> an there is an app called humanizer. So

20:40you you can go out from your

20:42if you just come out um

20:45But let me I'll I'll come out of that.

20:46So format for KDP basically it's just

20:48when you click on that it takes into

20:49consideration all the parameters that

20:51KDP asks you for and then it formats it

20:53accordingly.

20:54Right? And

20:56>> That's perfect.

20:57>> Also the cover that you saw if you don't

20:58like it for whatever reason you can just

20:59change the cover by creating a new

21:01cover. All right, let's go to the

21:03humanizer.

21:10>> So, yeah. So, here you can put whatever

21:12text you have up to 3,000 words at one

21:15in one shot, and then it

21:17uh humanizes your text.

21:19>> Got you.

21:21Cool.

21:23Awesome. So, here's the Let's go back to

21:25the the book. So, I did KDP. Now, what

21:27do you do? You just uh

21:29Um here's the Kindle book right here.

21:32The output Oh, that's awesome.

21:35Lord.

21:38You know how much money that I mean,

21:40just money to not only from a

21:44uh a writer or {slash} editor,

21:47but then you've got the graphic design,

21:51right? And then you have the formatter,

21:55then and and then somebody that's going

21:56to publish it into the different

21:59platforms. That will this publish the

22:02difference between a hard cover and a

22:04soft cover yet?

22:05>> Yes. Yes.

22:07>> That's awesome.

22:08So, I mean, that's the money you'll save

22:10just there alone,

22:14you know,

22:15is amazing. Which And then if you flip

22:17it on the business side, anybody that's

22:19interested in having a publishing

22:22company now can because you have the

22:25tools at your disposal.

22:27You know, people go All right, Dr.

22:30Small, I mean, you could go Like you

22:32interview tons of people all the time.

22:34Like that And it's you're very good at

22:37that. Um

22:39you you could go out and interview

22:40somebody, get come have it give you the

22:43audience, the road map, give you 10 10

22:45questions to ask, and then get them to

22:49answer, then go put it in there, and

22:51boom, write the book for them, lay it

22:53out, format it, up you know, then upload

22:56it into their Amazon. I mean, that's

22:58that's huge.

23:00>> Yeah, it's kind of that situation when

23:02you ask somebody, "Hey, how would you

23:05describe you?" And they say, "I really

23:06don't know what to say, but if you had

23:07the right question, it takes it and

23:09turns it into what you want to say."

23:12>> Exactly.

23:15Exactly.

23:17So, it's a 115-page book at a 6 by 9,

23:19right?

23:20>> Yeah, it's 6 by 9. You also have an

23:23option to generate it in 5.5 by 8.5.

23:27>> Yeah.

23:27>> Now, let's say I want to download and I

23:29want to add images to it. Can I then

23:32upload it back in to have it turn it

23:34into a Kindle? So, let's say in a

23:37paragraph I have a particular image I

23:39want in that paragraph, right? Or a QR

23:42code.

23:43>> You can download the Word version.

23:46>> Uh-huh.

23:47>> you can upload the images, but that's

23:48the only format that you will have. You

23:50can't upload the book back into the app.

23:53>> Okay, so it wouldn't be able to it

23:55wouldn't be able to create the KDP

23:58if you wanted to put QR codes inside

24:01there to as a lead gen cuz that's one of

24:04the things that I teach to use the book

24:05as a tool.

24:07>> Exactly.

24:07>> Right. So,

24:08>> I That's a good That's a great feature

24:10to have, actually.

24:12Let me get that inbuilt into the book

24:14itself in the book generator itself.

24:16>> I'll give you a list if you want.

24:18>> [laughter]

24:21>> Sure. Yeah, send send it over.

24:23>> I will tell you it's one of our it's one

24:25of our leading boot camps because of our

24:27demographic. I mean, Darrel, I don't

24:29know if you saw we had like a we had an

24:31educator who's very articulate, retired,

24:3580 years old, learning AI, and she's

24:38actually consulting people that are

24:40active older adults, 70 80 years old.

24:43She's sharp.

24:44Sharp lady.

24:46Right? So, so our demo our demographic

24:48like Nancy Wolf, she was just here.

24:50She's, you know,

24:52in her 60s, but she's teaching AI to

24:54seniors. And they all want to She helped

24:56She helped a

24:57a grandpa write a book to leave for his

25:00her her her uh his his family, right?

25:04So, we always get we get a lot of book

25:05writers and that's why we bringing these

25:06two guys in and we have like this is the

25:08power team here, guys. I mean, Darsh can

25:11make, you know, we know that book

25:13writing is is is a hot topic and we plan

25:15on going on tours with these two guys,

25:18taking them across

25:19uh the world doing book book, you know,

25:22masterminds, not just getting the book

25:24published.

25:26Right? Their vision is taking beyond

25:28that cuz that we believe that's only 1%

25:30of being successful. You write the book

25:31and publish it. You know, you got to

25:33have an impact and you got to have build

25:35authority and that's what these guys are

25:36specialized in.

25:38>> Awesome. Awesome.

25:41Yeah, please share whatever feedback or

25:42improvement that you think Yeah,

25:45we're happy to Yeah.

25:46>> What language do you speak? I'll connect

25:47them and Yeah, so you what you guys can

25:49do is you got and Darsh is good at doing

25:51the research and say yes, that's a good

25:53like he'll say if it's a good feature,

25:54he'll know.

25:56And I trust him. He's super

25:58ingenious. He has a good pace on what

26:00the AI world is happening and he keeps

26:02us ahead of the game and that's what I

26:04love about Darsh is we can

26:05we can do that together, right? So.

26:07>> Super.

26:09>> Anything else you want to ask Darsh or

26:11any other

26:12>> I just wanted to ask if you spoke any

26:13languages.

26:15>> Sorry?

26:16>> What languages other languages do you

26:17speak?

26:18>> I speak four languages in total.

26:21So.

26:22>> Was Hindi one of them?

26:24>> Hindi one of them? Punjabi is another

26:25one.

26:26>> Mhm.

26:27>> And a little bit of Albanian.

26:29>> Oh, Albanian.

26:31>> Yeah.

26:31>> Albanian. Have you been to Albania?

26:33>> My wife is Albanian.

26:35>> Ah, there you go. Cuz they they say uh

26:37this is no and this is yes.

26:39>> [laughter]

26:42>> That's pretty good. And I cuz I said I I

26:45said shukria earlier as a thank you for

26:47all you're doing with this technology

26:50and uh I guess you were you were

26:52probably pretty sad when uh when Ed

26:54deleted the Hindi version of the book we

26:56were writing.

26:57>> Yeah, yeah, yeah, I had no idea how to

26:59read it.

26:59>> [laughter]

27:01>> Well, I lived I lived in New Delhi for a

27:03year, so I look forward to having a

27:05conversation with you. Yeah.

27:06>> Okay, awesome. Sure. Yeah, let's talk

27:08about our experience someday.

27:09>> Four languages, that's amazing. I barely

27:12speak English. My first language is

27:13hillbilly-nese.

27:15>> [laughter]

27:16>> Yeah, Dr. Smiley has a has a show that's

27:19pretty intellectual.

27:21And

27:22I'm sure he would love to interview you

27:23on that to you know to create your life

27:25story your life story. It'd be a great a

27:27great conversation.

27:29>> Sure.

27:29>> Especially for the AI book.

27:32What's that?

27:33>> Especially for the AI book.

27:35>> Oh, 100%. Yeah, we want we want you to

27:37be in the AI Yeah, we want you to

27:39basically we definitely want you in the

27:40AI allegory. So the vision between doing

27:43this day, Darsh, and I'll let Dr. Smiley

27:46tell you what we're going to do with it,

27:47but

27:48the vision our vision is to is to

27:50publish a

27:51a book and he'll tell you the style of

27:52book we're we're going to be doing.

27:54>> Okay, every time we do an event where

27:55there's all these wonderful experts, we

27:57just get all the transcripts and then

27:59then we feed them in AI as as you know,

28:02and then we turn them into a product.

28:03What [clears throat] I love is that it

28:05can be almost seamless. We give them to

28:07the AI machine, which is what you're

28:09helping develop, and it kicks back

28:11within a week reader approved and ready

28:14for format and ready for Amazon, and you

28:16have an Amazon best seller within 2

28:17weeks of the show. That's crazy.

28:19>> Where do you Where do you live?

28:21>> Toronto. Toronto, Canada.

28:22>> Toronto, okay. Well, I was hoping you

28:24were going to say somewhere near Agra

28:25because you know, I've been to every one

28:27of the world except for the Taj Mahal.

28:29It's embarrassing.

28:31>> [laughter]

28:32>> So you're going to help us coordinate

28:33though. We're going to we're going to do

28:34a world tour.

28:35>> Anytime. Anytime. I'm most of the time

28:38I'm in the on the move like

28:39most of the time I'm on the move. I've

28:41already been to Europe twice this year.

28:44The third time I'm going to be there in

28:45September, October because there's a

28:47university there.

28:49Um they caught a wind of what I was

28:50doing over here and they wanted to

28:52collaborate. So, I'm kind of helping

28:53them in terms of creating a curriculum

28:55for the students or whatever their

28:56students should be learning.

28:58Uh so, helping them out to create that

28:59curriculum and then sometimes we'll be

29:01going out there for guest lectures and

29:03stuff. They've got a really good very

29:05very powerful team as well. So,

29:07>> Super.

29:07>> over there in terms of they want to

29:09pioneer in the AI. Europe is not

29:12at It's It's not adapting AI at the same

29:14pace as

29:15uh you know, US, Canada, this part of

29:17the world is. They are a little

29:19laid-back. So, but this particular

29:21university wants to take a lead. So,

29:23working with them on that front as well.

29:25So, yeah. I'm most of the time in the

29:26move. I consider myself 1/4 American

29:29because

29:30for a week every month I'm in US. I'll

29:32be coming to Ohio next month next week

29:34again. Uh I'll be there for about a

29:35week. So, yeah. I'm most of the time on

29:38the move.

29:39>> Well, the only way I could convince Mike

29:40to be a partner with uh Pro Publishing

29:42is if we're going to see the world. So,

29:43Mike, you I'm keeping you up.

29:45>> I I love that.

29:46>> go, man. I'm ready. Let's go.

29:47>> We got We got world connections. We got

29:49world connections too, right Dr. Smiley?

29:51So, we're we're we're Yeah, it's called

29:53relationships, you know, and we got

29:55relationships, you know. We We just had

29:56someone on. We We got a beautiful resort

29:58in Mexico that It's a private a private

30:00place. There's not not even electricity

30:02there. It's They use solar, right? But

30:03we So, we could do a internet there and

30:05everything. But But it's it's like so

30:07private, right? So, we we could do a

30:08custom event there with Blaney Teal. Her

30:11and her husband own that resort,

30:12[clears throat] right? Beautiful remote

30:14island in in Mexico, right? It's just

30:16you could probably throw a stone to the

30:18next country if you that close. But it's

30:20beautiful. We're talking about beautiful

30:22countries. Puerto Rico, my wife is there

30:24right now.

30:25Cabo Rojo. We're going to do events

30:26there as well. Beautiful places around

30:28the world. I mean, other places too. And

30:30in Europe and wherever you suggest we

30:32where we want to go, Dr. Smiley. So,

30:34>> Yeah, well, you got the you got the

30:36triple B here. You got

30:38uh Mike and I are the book brothers. And

30:40then you got the sec- the second part,

30:41which is book a trip. So, the book

30:44probably is book a trip.

30:45>> Okay, got it.

30:47>> [laughter]

30:48>> So, I sent I sent you my number. I sent

30:49>> So, if you're if you're if you're if

30:50you're if you're going to if you're

30:52going to play on that, then we should

30:54say the author of authority, the first

30:57six words, and then it, and then the Y

31:00is you. So, author yourself, right? So,

31:04that's authority.

31:05>> Yeah, awesome. That's awesome. Awesome.

31:07Awesome.

31:08>> And they

31:09If you have a book in you If you have a

31:10book in you, I know Dr. Smiley would

31:12love to get it published. And our com-

31:14our community can help you get to the

31:16bestseller fast because he's built a

31:18unique concept around this

31:20um as well. So, there's, you know, you

31:23guys get

31:25authors like ra- ranked number number

31:28one super fast because of the the

31:30community. It's the community that pulls

31:32the power of it, right? That we

31:34>> Yeah, and as the community becomes uh

31:37bigger with the AI community, we're

31:39going to have a AI book drop and

31:41literally become an Amazon bestseller

31:42the day it drops. I mean, it's it's

31:44because everyone's buying the book on

31:46their own IP accounts, and then they're

31:48reviewing the book, you know, the next

31:50day or something like that. So, it gets

31:51tremendous amount of social. And then

31:53they're posting. So, it's it's a lot of

31:54ninja moves you make. You don't just buy

31:56a book. You buy it,

31:57>> Yeah.

31:58>> write a review, you share the review,

31:59you give the author all these amazing

32:01reviews, you put it through AI and say,

32:03"Clean these reviews, find the most

32:05influential reviews," and ba-boom, you

32:06got two pages, one for the back of the

32:08cover, and then you got one to start the

32:10book off.

32:11>> Right.

32:11>> Yeah, even the simple task of you got to

32:13read the first 15 pages

32:15on Kindle.

32:17They track that, right? So.

32:20>> Awesome.

32:20>> Well, you asked where we lived, Darsh.

32:22Um I live in the DC Maryland area, and

32:24Mike, you're in California. What part?

32:26>> California. I'm in the San Francisco Bay

32:27Area.

32:29>> Okay.

32:29And we decided to move far apart so we

32:32could

32:32Come on down.

32:34>> [laughter]

32:34>> I love California. Like love the weather

32:36down there. Always good weather.

32:39>> Oh, it is. It is.

32:40>> jealous of.

32:41>> Yeah, I've you I know I went there for

32:43what Mike about just about 4 days. I

32:45wish I had stayed longer. It's beautiful

32:46there.

32:46>> Yeah, right there in San Diego. Or

32:49excuse me, LA. Yeah.

32:50>> Yeah, LA Marina Del Rey and yeah, it was

32:53it was a beautiful area. Yeah.

32:56Yeah, beautiful. So

32:57>> Awesome.

32:58>> Yeah, so we got a lot of we got a lot of

32:59events planned and everything that we're

33:02doing, but yeah, that's so the book we

33:04finished the book, right?

33:06>> Yeah, let's see it again. Let's see

33:08let's see the book again.

33:09>> let's see yeah.

33:09>> Yeah, let's go into I want to kind of

33:12see what it did and

33:14>> Yes.

33:15So let's get the here I downloaded the

33:19Here's the PDF, right? So

33:20>> Right.

33:21>> Right? So

33:23you can see the formatting of it. I'll

33:24make that a little bit bigger so you

33:25guys can

33:27You did a good job Darsh of formatting

33:28it I I think, right? So

33:31Yeah.

33:31>> Will it create the table of content? I

33:33know you did this for

33:34Yeah, for the KDP, right? So yeah.

33:37>> So I think I do download the ePub

33:40version as well.

33:41>> Yes, I did. See here let me see here.

33:44>> Yeah, just some things

33:46some things that will enhance what Mike

33:48was talking about earlier is

33:50that call to action and the ways to

33:53connect with the author all the socials,

33:55the dedication page, the preface page,

33:57the

33:58the acknowledgement or I think are great

34:00tools for

34:01connecting people to the book.

34:03>> Sure, yeah.

34:05So yeah, so there was a table of

34:06contents in the beginning

34:08and then the rest of the book.

34:09>> Yeah, I see. Yeah, okay.

34:13So what is AI really? I mean that's

34:15isn't that the question?

34:18>> It's my brother.

34:20>> Exactly.

34:20>> From another mother.

34:21>> [laughter]

34:22>> Yeah.

34:24Yeah, exciting exciting exciting times

34:26really really

34:27>> I'll tell you.

34:28>> We're living in exciting times for our

34:31young children, right? I don't know what

34:32kind of world they're going to live in,

34:33but then it's a

34:35you know, that's I'm thankful that you

34:37know, we're we're

34:39your son

34:40Dr. Smiley, how old is he and how many

34:42books has he published?

34:43>> 13 and he's got 14 books. You know, the

34:46new thing I think we can say is AI is my

34:49BAI. AI is my brother from another

34:51intelligence. How about that?

34:53>> There you go. BAI. [laughter]

34:57Yeah, so he helps his son and he has a a

35:00policy with his son before he writes a

35:02book, too,

35:03which is really good as a publisher and

35:05he makes sure he he studies the topic,

35:07right? He's got to know something about

35:08it, right?

35:09>> Yeah, you have to have the book.

35:12>> Yeah.

35:12>> I think I think one of the side effects

35:15of AI that's really strong benefit is

35:18and nobody really talks about it, but

35:21you become smarter in the process

35:25of doing it because how you have to

35:28communicate to it in a prompt to get

35:31what you want. Then when it produces

35:34what you want, you have to go read it

35:36and you're reading now

35:39and critique it, right? So, you're

35:41developing skills and improving upon

35:44your skills.

35:46>> And like you're also learning to be more

35:47polite when you say please to AI and and

35:49thank you.

35:50It gives you better stuff.

35:53>> Let's talk to we have a little bit of

35:54time. Can we talk about the the future

35:57of prompt prompting and all these

35:59you know, there's even universities that

36:01are saying, "Oh, come be a certified

36:03prompt engineer now." And they're

36:05they're teaching all these prompting

36:06stuff and it's going to become so

36:08>> And I think we should I think we should

36:08vote on this whether you can do this or

36:10not. So, I'm going to vote yes. Darsh,

36:12would you would you like to vote?

36:13>> Yeah, I'll vote yes. I'm good.

36:14>> We're we're all voting yes and we want

36:16you to

36:16>> Well, I don't think so. I think Darsh

36:18Darsh would say, "You know what? It's

36:19actually it's actually going it's going

36:21away."

36:22It's going away.

36:23>> It's going

36:23>> Elaborate a little bit more on that for

36:25these guys, yeah.

36:26>> It's it's going away. Like for instance,

36:28um

36:29let's take an example of the book

36:30writing app itself.

36:31You

36:33nobody's giving any kind of prompt into

36:34it, right? The prompt's already

36:36engineered into it. That's what makes it

36:37needs to It needs to be done.

36:39Um over a period of time, you will see

36:42the AI engines are going to keep getting

36:44better and better in understanding your

36:45intent. You can already see

36:49So, if you ask a question from ChatGPT,

36:52and if you have a history of 2 2 and 1/2

36:54years,

36:55it

36:56your profile is. It already understands

36:58what my profile is. You ask the same

37:00question, I ask the same question, the

37:01results are going to be different. The

37:02answers are going to be different based

37:03on how we've interacted in the past.

37:05Which means we're not prompting ChatGPT

37:08to give an answer that

37:10will that will satisfy my requirements

37:12because it's kind of engineering the

37:13prompt in the back end by itself by

37:15based on understanding of your history

37:17of how you've interacted with it.

37:19That's going to keep getting

37:22more and more powerful in terms of how

37:24you're interacting not just with one

37:26LLM, but how you're interacting with the

37:27entire internet. So, when you're asking

37:30for something, and if you're a marketer

37:31and you if you want to create an image,

37:33it'll understand that you're trying to

37:34create an image for an ad. So, it's

37:35going to add the components of what an

37:38ad would look like on if it's an image

37:40for an ad, how it would look like versus

37:43um how if somebody is who's an artist

37:45and wants to create an image for

37:46inspiration, and how the image should be

37:48looking out for them. So, you don't

37:50really you won't really have to prompt

37:51that going forward.

37:53Um so, your Google already tracks what

37:57you do on YouTube, um your emails, what

38:01are what are the things that you've

38:02bookmarked on your Chrome browser, and

38:05based on that and where you're located,

38:07obviously,

38:08what are the queries that you've asked

38:09from Google in the past. It looks at all

38:11of these things, what are the things

38:13that you've saved on your Google Drive.

38:15Um it looks at all of these things, and

38:16then it gives you the answer. So, it's a

38:19highly customized answers that you're

38:21getting even at this stage, but it's

38:22going to keep getting, you know, more

38:24and more personalized where prompting

38:26would not no longer be uh required uh by

38:30the people because they will get the

38:31answers because these systems are

38:33getting way more with smarter and

38:35smarter with times in terms of

38:37understanding you. And the whole point

38:39that they're trying to make is that

38:41we'll know

38:42about you better than you do, and the

38:44answers that you'll get are going to be

38:47satisfactory to your needs. Now,

38:50there's a flip side to it.

38:51It's going to keep you in your comfort

38:53zone because it'll understand what you

38:55will like, and it's just going to give

38:56you that.

38:57If you want to come out of your out of

38:59your comfort zone, you there will be a

39:00responsibility on yourself in

39:02understanding how do you really want to

39:03learn or do? What are the things that

39:05you want to do with AI? Uh that the

39:07responses that it gives you are not the

39:09ones that you like. Even today,

39:11you go in and you ask a question, "Hey,

39:13I've got this idea. What do you think

39:14about it?" It's going to be like, "Yeah,

39:15it's a brilliant idea." And you say,

39:16"I'm

39:17I'm going to give you an idea.

39:19Tell me all the holes that are that are

39:21there in this idea." And then it's going

39:22to tell you all the holes. So, it

39:23changes the personality based on how you

39:26ask that question from it. And if you

39:28ask that question multiple times, "I'm

39:29going to give you an idea. Tell me the

39:30holes that that are there in this idea."

39:32If you ask it enough number of times,

39:33next time you give an idea, "Hey, what

39:35do you think about this idea?" It's

39:36going to give you the holes in the idea.

39:37And that's it's not going to be agreeing

39:39to you. So, from that perspective,

39:41because it's going to learn more and

39:43more about you, the prompting part is

39:45going to go out over a period of time.

39:47>> Mhm.

39:48Yeah.

39:50Now, what if So, let's say I'm cuz like

39:52I work with multiple clients. One is a

39:55pet agent, right? And uh she teaches how

39:59to be a pet agent. And then I got the

40:02real estate investor.

40:04Will it allow me to build a knowledge

40:07base for any each one of them

40:10um to be able to do what I need to do,

40:12right?

40:13>> Yeah.

40:14Yeah, even even today on the platform

40:17that we have, you have an app called

40:18knowledge base and you can upload and

40:20you can create different knowledge

40:21bases.

40:22And you can upload information for a

40:24specific niche in different knowledge

40:26bases and you can connect those

40:27knowledge bases with different apps and

40:29when you use that particular app

40:31connected to that knowledge base, it's

40:32going to give you a response

40:34output based on that.

40:35>> That's awesome.

40:37That's huge.

40:38Right there.

40:41>> So there's a knowledge base app, yeah,

40:43right there. So

40:45>> See, so

40:47I'll tell you what I like about this,

40:49Dr. Smiley, right?

40:52Any training that you go through, every

40:55training you've ever bought,

40:58you could create a knowledge based

41:00around that and be able to pull from it.

41:03>> Yeah.

41:05>> Right? I mean, so you take the

41:07transcriptions of that training

41:10and the books, the workbooks, the

41:12ebooks, you put it in there and now it

41:14builds a knowledge base and of this

41:16particular training that you like or the

41:19style that you like and now it builds

41:20that knowledge base and now you can you

41:23refer to it

41:25to be able to do what you want to do.

41:28>> Yeah, it makes sense about the prompts,

41:29too. If you were to have AI learn

41:31everything you're doing, you say, "What

41:33is the best prompt I should be giving in

41:35order to optimize?" And then finally

41:37say, "You know that prompt that I don't

41:39want to say anymore, that's the one I

41:40want."

41:41>> Yeah.

41:42>> Yeah, well, this is brilliant. What a

41:43great conversation. Darsh, thank you for

41:45your time, but I think we have another

41:47speaker coming up, right?

41:48>> a couple more speakers, Ed. I mean, we

41:50have a flurry of them.

41:52>> I know, right? We do. Yeah, we even have

41:54some AI clones of people, right? Yeah,

41:56so

41:56>> That's right. That's right.

41:57>> Yeah, thank you for your time. Hey, you

41:59know what? One thing you don't One thing

42:00you don't know about Darsh and he may

42:02share it with you if I ask him. He's a

42:05He's very avid in this, but I love what

42:07he does, you know,

42:09you know, you ever seen the What's that

42:11television that movie that came out

42:13about race cars? What's it called? Fast

42:15and Furious, right?

42:16>> Yeah.

42:17>> Yeah, we've seen that, right? So, Darsh

42:19is fast and furious, obviously, with AI,

42:21right?

42:22>> Yes.

42:22>> But but he's also fast and furious when

42:24it comes to you know, driving cars. So,

42:27Pierre he can share a little bit about

42:28it. That's one of his little fun things.

42:30A fun fact to know about Darsh, right?

42:32So, he loves doing I will I'll let him

42:34explain it.

42:35>> briefly.

42:36>> Yeah, it's

42:37basically it's called drifting. So,

42:39that's why I'm going to Hawaii next week

42:41again. Yeah.

42:42>> Yeah.

42:43>> Yeah, I got a few cars. So, we just take

42:45them out. We just try killing them. They

42:47don't die.

42:48>> [laughter]

42:49>> That's awesome, isn't it?

42:51Yeah. You Can you take a passenger in a

42:53drifting car?

42:54>> You can. Yeah.

42:55>> You can? Wow. Have you ever taken

42:56[clears throat] taken your wife or

42:58friends in there? What do they think

42:59when they are with you?

43:01>> She she's not brave enough. So, she's

43:04never been

43:06in the car with me, but yeah, friends

43:07have been.

43:09>> Good. I bet you I bet you Dr. Smiley

43:11would love to do that. He would be Yeah,

43:12he he he's definitely adventurous.

43:14>> Nice.

43:15>> Yeah, my smile's probably would go here

43:17and then it all of a sudden divert that

43:18way.

43:19>> [laughter]

43:19>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

43:21Awesome. Well, Darsh, thank you for

43:22being here. We appreciate your time.

43:24>> a pleasure. Thank you.

43:25>> Yeah, very much a pleasure, sir. Thank

43:27you very much.

43:27>> Thanks. Thanks so much.

43:29>> Same here. Thank you. Thanks so much.

43:30Thanks. Take care.

43:30>> Yeah, okay. Thank you. Bye-bye.

43:32>> Bye.