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De ingeniero de caminos a dominar más de 10 idiomas
0:00Today's guest is a polyglot who speaks
0:02more than 10 languages and is here to
0:03dispel the myths of the education
0:05system .
0:05In other words , knowing vocabulary
0:06doesn't allow you to speak a language .
0:08You need to know the verbal structure
0:09of that language .
0:10Why is English taught this way ? I
0:12have no idea why this happens , but it
0:13happens throughout the education system
0:15, because it doesn't just happen with
0:16languages .
0:16He studied civil engineering , one of
0:18the most complex and demanding degrees .
0:20However , after finishing it , he
0:21realized that his true passion wasn't
0:23in structures , but in languages . Today ,
0:25after deciphering the code that
0:26connects all languages , he dedicates
0:28himself to teaching others to speak
0:29English and other languages freely . If
0:31someone wants to learn English from
0:32scratch , what's the best advice you
0:33could give them ?
0:33Learn Spanish from scratch . We speak it
0:35, but we don't know how . If you don't
0:37know how to speak your own native
0:38language , your goal is to first learn
0:40what you already know .
0:41In this episode , we'll explain why the
0:42traditional education system fails . We
0:44will examine the psychological traps
0:46that block your English fluency . We
0:47will investigate the definitive method
0:49to master any language using the
0:51structure of your own language . What do
0:53you think is the mistake that most
0:54people make when they start learning
0:55English ?
0:56Do they memorize phrases or work with
0:57applications that give them incorrect
0:59translations , that are not didactic ,
1:00that do not help ?
1:01Why do they force us to cram endless
1:03lists if we do not even use them in our
1:05daily lives ? No ,
1:06in my opinion , because it is easy . Hey ,
1:07how do I prepare for tomorrow's class ?
1:09I print out 80 lists here , I send the
1:11students and I tell them that tomorrow
1:12there is an exam .
1:13How do we have to put subtitles on if
1:14we have watched a series or a movie ?
1:16Never in any life . Never . Okay , I hope
1:18it has been made clear that you should
1:20never put subtitles in Spanish because
1:22it ruins the functioning of the brain .
1:24How can we pronounce English or any
1:25other language correctly ?
1:35Today Pablo Vázquez has come to have
1:37coffee with history .
1:39Hello , it was a pleasure ,
1:40welcome , man . Hey there , dude .
1:42Thanks for coming over and
1:44inviting me .
1:44Pablo , who do you think should stay and
1:46listen to this podcast ? Well , I could
1:49tell you the typical people , the ones
1:51who have been learning English their
1:52whole life , right ? Anyone who wants to
1:55raise their standards and quality of
1:57life should listen to this , whether
1:59they're a manager , a businessperson , an
2:01employee , a company employee , even
2:03someone who wants to travel , anyone who
2:05wants to raise their status .
2:07Come on , yeah . Well , Pablo , you know
2:09that this podcast is about inspiring
2:10people to achieve their goals , each one
La controvertida teoría sobre por qué "todos los idiomas son el mismo"
2:11with their own . And I think you have a
2:14very inspiring story because , damn , in
2:16the end you studied civil engineering
2:20and you talk more about
2:21languages
2:22and after studying a degree as
2:24difficult as civil engineering , you
2:26dedicate yourself to teaching other
2:28people to learn English , French ,
2:30Italian , German , languages , although
2:33you put more emphasis on English , but
2:35in the end they are languages . Exactly .
2:38Well ,
2:38for what you said before , right ? For
2:40better job opportunities , traveling
2:44abroad ,
2:44well , for a lot of things , right ? Which
2:46you'll tell us about now .
2:46Yes . Professionally , personally . That's
2:48how someone ends up dedicating
2:52themselves to this and teaching others
2:54to do it . And not only that , but you
2:56also speak more than 10 languages .
2:59How is all this possible , man ? I got to
3:01the point where I lost count . There
3:03came a point where I said , " I don't
3:04know anymore , but because they're all
3:05the same . Later , if you want , we can
3:07see why they're all the same . "
3:08But how did someone end up like that ?
3:09Well , really , no one knows . I mean ,
3:12you've had guests here who've told you
3:13that things happen and you don't know
3:15when , but they end up happening because
3:17for whatever reason the stars align and
3:19they arrive .
3:20And well , I followed a routine life ,
3:22the typical one where you first study
3:24at school , at university , and I
3:25realized that I didn't like that , that
3:27I liked something else . Languages .
3:29Languages . Mm .
3:30And that's where I ended up , in short ,
3:34how is it possible to end up speaking
3:37more than 10 languages ?
3:39Okay , you just
El típico error al traducir que demuestra por qué el sistema tradicional falla
3:40said it , all languages are the same .
3:42Exactly . That's where the key lies .
3:44And starting with understanding how you
3:46speak
3:47your own native language . That's
3:49the key . Because understanding , let's
3:52just accept it now to start with , that
3:54all languages are the same . If you
3:56understand how you speak yours ,
3:57logically , you're going to find a
3:59relationship with any other language
4:02that's not your native one .
4:04And that's the key .
4:05Okay ? It would be great if as we talk
4:07about all this we could give examples
4:09to help people realize all this that
4:12for you is very obvious , but surely for
4:14many of the people listening to us it's
4:16something completely unknown .
4:18Okay , that sounds great to me . If you
4:19want , we can start now . Hey , go ahead .
4:21I can put a simpler sentence at first ,
4:22in quotes , maybe it's a sentence that
4:24you don't see until the third year of a
4:25typical English academy , and then we'll
4:27make it more complicated .
4:28We'll also talk about the educational
4:29system .
4:30Exactly . Okay , that sounds good to me .
4:31Okay , great . Okay ,
4:33because you say that all languages are
4:34the same . Let's check it out .
4:36Exactly . If you want , we can make the
4:38simplest comparison in the world , which
4:40is our native language and English . For
4:42example , if I tell you ,
4:43if I had a good teacher , I would learn
4:47English ,
4:49okay ? Let's take it one step at a time .
4:51If I had a good teacher , that's it .
4:53What's your analysis of this ? I mean ,
4:55how would you say it in English ? It's ,
4:57uh , if . If I had a good teacher , okay ?
5:01If I would have . Okay . Okay .
5:03A teacher .
5:05Okay , let's stop there .
5:06Okay .
5:06I would have . You said if I would have .
5:09And if I tell you that what you just
5:11said is if I would have a good teacher .
5:14No , no , I said if I had a good teacher .
5:16Okay .
5:16And this is perfect for checking that
5:18we learn languages by memorizing
5:20without reasoning what's behind it .
5:22Completely . What's
5:23more , if I would have is also said by a
5:25native speaker many times incorrectly .
5:28That's not if I had .
5:30What is if I had ? What is that " had " in
5:33Spanish without putting labels ? Would
5:36you be able to say it now ?
5:38What is that " had " ? It's the future ,
5:41right ? Or well , it's the future . Keep
5:42saying options because that's how you
5:44get to the ... I'm
5:44not going to say conditional , but the
5:45word doesn't come to me right now . It's
5:47not , no , no , it's not , man , the word
5:50doesn't come to me , but
5:51okay . Why ? Because you're looking for
5:53the label .
5:53Yes .
5:54Well , " had " , " had " , " comiera " , " comiese
5:56" , " viviera " , " viviese " . All that is
5:58past ,
5:59okay ? It's
6:00past
6:00and you have to know it exactly as it
6:02is . It's past . I could tell you that
6:04that's an imperfect subjunctive , I
6:05don't know what . I don't know if I'm
6:07even saying it right , uh , I don't
6:08remember it . It's past , period . " had " ,
6:10" had " , " comiera " , " comiese " .
6:12Okay .
6:13The first thing you have to know is
6:14that that's a past in our language .
6:15Note that we haven't even gotten into
6:17the problem with English yet , it's a
6:18problem with Spanish , of not
6:19understanding it .
6:20Okay , Tenía , is a past tense . What
6:23further analysis do you have for me on
6:24that ?
6:25If I Tenía , well , it's a hypothetical
6:29situation . Okay , let's get out of that
6:32context , let's just stick with the form
6:33of the word and that we already know
6:35that it's a past tense . How do we use
6:36it now ? That works to our advantage .
6:38It's a past tense , right ? Let's focus
6:40on the verbs . Now we'll see which words
6:42are more important than others , because
6:43indeed there are some that are more
6:44important than others , okay ?
6:46Tuviera , first we've already seen that
6:47it's a past tense , okay ? We just
6:48learned it , let's stick with it . What
6:50is the verb in its basic form ?
6:52Tener .
6:53Tener . Okay , that's the next analysis
6:55we have to do . Then all this comes out
6:57of nowhere , but at first we have to
6:58think about it .
6:59Present , past , future . We know it's
7:00past .
7:01Exactly . Exactly . And now we've found
7:03out what the verb is . That's the verb
7:05to have , right ? How do you say to have
7:06in English ?
7:07Have .
7:08Have . Perfect . But we've said it's a
7:11past tense . Hat .
7:13H. We already have it .
7:14Okay .
7:15How do you say it ? If I had , that's it .
7:17If I had .
7:18If I had . End of story . Okay , what this
7:23shows is that our problem isn't in the
7:25target language , our problem is in the
7:28native source language .
7:30In the native one . Why ? Because we've
7:32learned it by memorizing it . We'll talk
7:33about this properly now . And when you
7:35memorize it , you haven't understood it .
7:37When you want to switch to another
7:38language , you don't know what you're
7:40saying . Of course . If I would have , if
7:42I would have , there are people who say
7:44it like that , natives who say , " If I
7:45would have , a great pronunciation . "
7:47We'll talk about pronunciation later
7:48too . It's wrong . If I would have a good
7:52teacher . No , no . If I had , Perfect . If
7:55I had a good teacher .
7:56Okay .
7:57And now I would learn English . What's
8:00that ?
8:01I would learn is a conditional .
8:03Okay , we don't care about the label ,
8:05right ? Note that we haven't talked
8:06about learning the future .
8:07Aprendería is not the future .
8:09Aprendería ,
8:10because if it is the future , it is the
8:11same . It is the same as estaba . It is
8:13the same . It is past . So it
8:14is the same . Note , uh , where is the
8:16problem ? This is great because you
8:18speak English , which is the funny thing
8:19. It is great
8:20that you are a hick . Sure . Let's see .
Por qué traducir de forma literal es una técnica válida para empezar
8:22No , it is great because you already
8:24speak English in a normal everyday
8:26situation , but you have it memorized
8:27there . The moment you manage to
8:29understand it , it will come out much
8:31more fluently . Tuviera , tuviere has
8:33nothing to do with aprendería . What
8:35would be the equivalent in the verb
8:37aprender of Tenía or Tuviere ? The same
8:41verb form . Teníam
8:46aprendiera .
8:47Exactly . Aprendiera , aprendese . Now we
8:50have located the form , we already know
8:52what it is .
8:53So , it is not past . It is
8:54not past . We already know that . It is
8:56another verb form . That's what we need
8:58to know , that this is called a
8:59conditional . It doesn't matter to me ,
9:01it doesn't help me . I
9:02would learn , I would eat , I would live ,
9:04I would drink , all that as expressed in
9:06English . And I don't need labels . What
9:09do I have to put in front ?
9:10Will . No , it's the future . I will learn
9:12. You will learn . I will eat . No , I
9:15wouldn't learn . I
9:16would eat .
9:17W. No ,
9:17w . Now the W does appear .
9:19Yes .
9:20And we haven't called this a
9:21conditional because it's of no use to
9:23me . Now I would learn English . How do
9:26you say it ?
9:27I would learn . I would learn English .
9:31There you go . And you speak English .
9:34Well , imagine .
9:35Let's say I spoke . Okay , but you can
9:37hold your own , right ?
9:39And even so , you're not clear on ... look
9:41at these apparently simple concepts ,
9:43but which no one is clear about , and I
9:45wasn't either in my day .
9:47And how can we use this to our
9:49advantage ?
9:51Literal translation of one structure
9:54and another , mind you , not
9:55word-for-word translation , but
9:57translation at the level of
9:59equivalences . Like I do , I would learn ,
10:01I would learn or it would be learned by
10:03putting the word in front of the verb ,
10:05I would have , I would have , I would eat
10:07, I would eat , I know it is a past
10:09tense , I use the past tense . Had , in
10:11the case of had , equivalencies and
10:13word-by-word translation . If you want ,
10:15we can overwrite it later and put it .
10:17If I had a good teacher , tell me if
10:18that is not literal . If , yes , I , me .
10:22Had , had . E , a good , good teacher ,
10:26professor .
10:28That is the key . Translating word by
10:31word , because at a basic structural
10:33level it is very easy to speak any
10:35language . And then I would learn
10:39English . What is the difference between
10:41I would learn and aprendería between
10:43one language and another ? The
10:45construction , but the equivalence is
10:47the same .
10:48In Spanish we have verb conjugations ,
10:51that complicates our language a lot ,
10:53but in English putting a word in front
10:56of the for a past suffix .
10:58How do I say it ? I will learn . I will .
11:00I will learn . I will learn and he will
11:02learn . He will learn . We have a crazy
11:04language and there are others that are
11:06like that too , but in English you just
11:08put a little particle in front of the
11:09verb
11:10and that's it . And why do you think
11:12English is taught like this ? I don't
11:15know .
11:15How do you think English is taught ? I
11:17have no idea why this happens , but it
11:19happens with the entire educational
11:20system . We talked about it before . What
11:23happens ? People have a hard time
11:24changing . Imagine if one person had a
11:27hard time changing themselves . It's
11:29like changing an entire educational
11:31system , because this doesn't just
11:33happen with languages , this happens
11:35with any subject .
El primer e inesperado paso para cualquiera que quiera aprender inglés desde cero
11:36Well , you are already aware of what we
11:37dedicate ourselves to when discussing
11:39history . Memorize thousands of dates ,
11:40thousands of names , thousands of
11:42characters from events that you're
11:43going to forget when you finish the
11:45exam . It's completely absurd . The same
11:47thing happens with English , right ?
11:48Because what you've
11:49always said , my memory is that in
11:51school you had to learn the present
11:53continuous , the simple future , the
11:55compound future , the past , the ... I mean
11:57, of
11:57course ,
11:58grammar is ultimately useful if we want
12:00to learn English . That's grammar , what
12:02you've said .
12:03Sure .
12:03And I'm passionate about grammar ,
12:06but because I already have that
12:07background and baggage behind me to say
12:08, " Okay , I understand what each thing
12:10is ,
12:10but it's not useful for learning .
12:12And I understand that the average
12:14person isn't prepared to memorize all
12:16those labels that don't go anywhere . Of
12:19what ? What is that ? Of the future
12:20compound , of the past perfect or of the
12:22present continuous . If all I want to
12:23know how to say is , I'm playing . Do I
12:25need to know that this is called the
12:27present continuous ? No , I'm playing .
12:31I'm playing . Literal translation into
12:32English . What is it like ? I am playing .
12:35I am playing . Verb to be . No , the test
12:38is for you to tell me what the verb is
12:40and conjugate it for me . I don't want
12:41to know that . I want to know how to use
12:43the verb chip in context . Well , just
12:45like it's used in Spanish . When do I
12:47use the verb chip ? When do I use the
12:49verb ser or estar in Spanish ? In most
12:51cases , of course , there are exceptions .
12:53But if what we want is to talk in a
12:55short time , Oh , [ __ ] , just keep it
12:57simple . Oh . And playing and we have a
13:00literal translation again .
13:01Mm , that's it .
13:03For someone who is starting from
13:04scratch
13:04or who wants to learn a language from
13:06scratch , in this case English , which is
13:08the one we are using as an example , if
13:09someone wants to learn English from
13:11scratch ,
13:12what is the best advice you could give
13:13them ?
13:14The best advice , learn Spanish from
13:16scratch . Exactly . Learn Spanish from
13:20scratch . We speak it , but we don't know
13:23how . If you don't know how to speak
13:26your own native language , as we have
13:28seen with two examples that we have
13:30just seen , they are 90 % identical , your
13:33goal is to first learn or understand
13:35what you already know so that you can
13:37then extrapolate it to something that
13:40is supposed to be new . Then you see
13:42that no , it is the same . You don't
13:44learn to multiply and divide before you
13:46learn to add and subtract , right ? It is
13:49impossible to learn English before
13:51learning Spanish . You can memorize it .
13:53Yes . Spend 30 , 40 years living in the
13:55country and in the end you speak it .
13:57Who has ? that time these days ? Nobody .
14:02Nobody . You're lost if you want to do
14:05that . That's where the frustration
14:06comes from , that you don't make any
14:06progress , you don't make any progress ,
14:07you don't make any progress . That's the
14:09problem .
14:10And instead , what do you think is the
14:11mistake that most people make when they
14:13start learning English ? That they
14:15memorize phrases . They memorize phrases
14:17or work with applications that give
14:19them incorrect translations , that
14:20aren't didactic and that don't help .
14:22Then we can also see some examples of
14:24this . Very specific examples , uh , of
14:26how a word is written in one way in one
14:28language , how you translate it to
14:30another and how that burns the brain .
14:33Because it burns it . If you don't give
14:36it a way to learn logic , which is how
14:38this works , by logic and reasoning ,
14:40you're lost .
14:41And above all , what happens to me
14:42sometimes is that I have to be thinking
14:44about what I want to say .
14:45Of course .
14:46So that exercise of , I mean , in the end
14:47it's very complicated to have a
14:49conversation like that because you
14:50spend more time thinking than talking .
14:52Exactly . You aren't
14:53listening to what the person is telling
14:54you , you're focused on what you'll
14:55You're going to answer . That's very
14:56difficult .
14:57But why do you spend so much time
14:59thinking ? That's the key question . Why
15:01do you think you spend so much time
15:03thinking in English , for example ? I
15:07don't
15:07know . In the end , when I'm speaking in
15:09English , you used the example before ,
15:11and I was thinking about ... I wasn't
15:12thinking about ... I mean , I was really
15:14just remembering how it was done .
15:16There we are . That's the question . You
15:18try to recall
15:20things that are lying around in some
15:22lost drawer
15:23and you bring them here , pa , and paste
15:24them .
15:25Instead of saying to yourself , " Okay ,
15:27what does " tiene " or " tibese " mean ?
15:28What does " aprendera " mean ? " When you
15:30think about it and think about it , it
15:32just comes out . Tell me now . If I had a
15:34good teacher , I would learn English .
15:36If I had a good teacher ,
15:37I would learn English . You're putting
15:39it here in a compromising way , man .
15:40No ,
15:40if I had , you know what
15:41if
15:43we said is past tense . So it's if I had
15:46if I had a good teacher .
15:48If I had a good teacher ,
15:49I would learn English . I will . I would
15:52learn English . Okay ,
15:55obviously you're saying again , " Wow ,
15:57such and such , " but you already have it
15:59,
15:59but you reconsider right away . "
16:00The reasoning is , damn it , tell him to
16:02wait .
16:03Speak slowly .
16:05Okay , let me think . That's all you need
16:08, time . And once you've thought and
16:10reasoned that , three , four , five times ,
16:12it comes to you on its own . But if you
16:14bring memorized things out of the
16:16drawer that you don't understand ,
16:18you're not going to be fluent in life .
16:20But in life it's impossible . It's
16:22possible . I mean , what do you think is
16:24the first change of mindset
16:26that we have to make when we want to
16:27learn English ? We've said it . And it's
16:29not to not remember , not to try to
16:31search for memory , but simply to
16:33translate .
16:33Exactly . Exactly . I
16:35mean , literally translating English
16:36into Spanish
16:37and using these little tricks that
16:38you've told us ,
16:39because I'd like us to go into more
16:41depth here . I mean , we're clear on the
16:42first step , which is to identify the
16:44verb . In this case , we haven't said
16:46which tenses are past , present , and
16:47future .
16:48From here ,
16:50how do we continue ? If it's future ,
16:52we've said that it has the will .
16:54Exactly .
16:56If it's past , For example , we haven't
16:58covered this yet .
16:58Okay , let's talk about the past . Now
17:00the future is will . We've already
17:02covered that before . Now the past . I'll
17:03tell you something even more important ,
17:05okay ? But the past . Fantastic . Let's
17:07focus now . Here we are on verbs . How is
El truco lingüístico para comunicarte en pasado y futuro utilizando únicamente el presente
17:10the past represented in English ? At a
17:12regular level . We haven't gone into
17:14irregularities because I'm not
17:16interested in exceptions and
17:17irregularities at first . How is the
17:19past represented in English ? You add
17:20the LD . That's
17:22a form , okay ? It's a form . It's two
17:25letters that are added there ,
17:26okay ? If I want to say I play , I say I
17:28play . If I want to say I played , what
17:31do I say ?
17:32I play it .
17:33I play it . Okay , then that D is
17:35pronounced however you want . Later
17:36we'll also talk about pronunciation
17:38because it's a hodgepodge and there are
17:40three fundamental parts that we'll
17:41review and revise later . An ed that you
17:43put at the end . However , in Spanish ,
17:46what ? I play , you go on . Did you
17:48play ?
17:49He .
17:49played .
17:50Keep going , keep going .
17:51We play , uh , I played . Uh , we play , we
17:53play , which also coincides with the
17:54present .
17:55Sure , sure , sure .
17:56You played ,
17:57you played , they played . It's really
17:58complicated .
17:59It's torture for a foreigner ,
18:00especially an Englishman
18:02who lacks all of this .
18:03I played , you played , he played , played
18:05.
18:05Much easier .
18:05Everything is the same . The past tense
18:07is already identified . Fantastic .
18:10That's it . You don't need anything else
18:13. Then there are regularities ,
18:15fantastic . You don't say I tookd
18:16anymore , you say I took . I'll learn
18:19them later . In the end , they're such
18:21common verbs that I'm going to learn
18:23them no matter what , but I have to
18:25first understand how I'm speaking in my
18:26language and know that I'm saying I
18:28played or I took .
18:30First , know what tense I'm speaking in .
18:32Now , having said all this , speaking of
18:34the future , of the past ,
18:35I can communicate in any language by
18:37speaking in only one tense .
18:39Which one ? Present .
18:41Present . If I know how to use the
18:44present in any language , I can speak in
18:46the future using the present and speak
18:48in the past using the present .
18:51Okay ? Since
18:52you work with history in 1000 , when did
18:55Columbus discover America , remind me ,
18:59uh , 1492. In 1492 , Columbus
19:01discovered America .
19:02He discovered America , right ? What am I
19:05using there ? A context , an adverb , I
19:07don't care what you call it , a past
19:09tense and I'm using a present tense .
19:14How do I say it in the future ? I don't
19:17have to say tomorrow to London .
19:19I discover America .
19:21I discover America tomorrow after
19:22Columbus , for example , with flying . I
19:24don't have to say tomorrow I will fly
19:26to London . I can use a present tense , I
19:28will fly to London tomorrow .
19:30The same happens in English and in any
19:32other language you come across .
19:34Tomorrow I fly to London .
19:36Sure , directly .
19:37And it's present tense . That's it .
19:39Hm . No more
19:40problems . You see what a problem it is
19:43to put a well now , now .
19:44In front of a verb .
19:45Or an ide at the end .
19:46Sure . I mean , my level in English is
19:48high . I'll upload it really quickly ,
19:49really quickly , like this . But I can
19:51use the present tense .
19:54If you started learning a language from
19:56scratch , you would begin with the
19:57present tense .
19:58Exactly . The present tense . And three
20:01important verb forms , okay ? They are
20:03not conjugations . The er ir . I could
20:05tell you the infinitive , the gerund ,
20:07and participle . Okay , and I've already
20:08told you . To you , that's something like
20:10etiquette , it's
20:11useless .
20:12To feel smarter because you know
20:13grammar .
20:14Sure , to ...
20:15But to communicate , to make
20:16it cool . All I need to know is how to
20:18say it in a language . Ar , er , ir . I'm
20:21going and hearing . Those are the forms
20:25I need . That ar , er , ir . How is it
20:27represented in English ? comer , jugar ,
20:30vivir . Tu , to . That's the only
20:33difference there is . To live , to eat ,
20:35to play . It's not just live , eat , play ,
20:38no , put the che in front and that's the
20:40r . That's what people have told me many
20:42times on social media , but There are
20:43exceptions , such as , many times it's
20:44ING . Forget about exceptions . What
20:46you're asking me is how do I start
20:48speaking
20:49so that I can communicate in the
20:50shortest possible time .
20:51Yes . Then you'll learn , you'll do the
20:53tricks . But exactly , you start there .
20:55Exactly . And ando yendo , how is it
20:57represented in English ? ing playing
21:00eating
21:01going and eladoído
21:05ed
21:06ed if it's regular ed
21:08okay
21:08if it's irregular then we would enter
21:11that famous table that
21:12is used for past tense verbs that don't
21:14follow the rule fantastic . The time
21:17will come to see it . Now is not the
21:19time you
21:21need more ar ir . Andoyendo and hás
21:23escucha . Now what you need is context .
21:27When do I use ar ir ?
21:29When do I use the word vivir or jugar
21:33or comer ? When ? I mean , I need context
21:35there .
21:36Really very little , very little . There
21:40is no
21:41use . Uh , if I want to say I want to
21:43play , I'm
21:44already using jugar , right ?
21:46Okay ,
21:46let's say it in English now .
21:48I want to play . That's it . I don't say
21:50I want to play . Why do people say I
21:52want ? play because they don't
21:54understand what that R is .
21:55Sure , the R is the tú .
21:56Sure .
21:57If it's not like you would be saying , "
21:59I want to hug ,
22:00I want to hug , right ? Or I want to play
22:02. " Who knows , there's no direct
22:04translation in that case , but you're
22:06not saying it right
22:07when the translation is actually the
22:09same , it's not literal , but it is
22:11equivalent . We look for equivalencies ,
22:13that's super important ,
22:14okay ? And the ando vando , I don't go
22:17around saying I'm playing or I'm
22:19wanting , right ? How do you say it ? I am
22:21playing .
22:22Exactly . I say , I'm playing . That ando
22:25vando accompanies another verb form
22:26that's in front of it . Fantastic . You
22:29saw , right ?
22:29But it's a literal translation . The ch
22:30is a literal translation .
22:31I am playing .
22:32And the heard side . I don't go around
22:35saying , " I have played , I have lived . "
22:38What do I say ?
22:39I have lived .
22:39What is that ?
22:40The have .
22:41The have . But if I don't even know what
22:43it is in Spanish , which is the
22:45auxiliary verb haber and the label
22:46doesn't matter to me , I don't
22:48know how to translate it into English .
22:50Yo ha juego , tú has juego , él ha
22:51juego . I have played . You have played .
22:55He has played . It has its conjugation ,
22:57have , but I understand what it is . And
22:59the translation , as you can see , is
23:00word for word . I already have the
23:03context . So , how do I start ? By
23:05learning these three things and knowing
23:07how to use the present tense , to give
23:09your people the present tense here .
23:11There is only one conjugation mark in
23:13English , it only occurs in the present
23:15and in the third person . How do you say
23:16it ? He plays .
23:18He plays .
23:19What happened there ?
23:20We put an s . That's it .
23:22Just like we say yo , how do you say tú
23:24comes , come , comemos , all those verb
23:26endings ? In English there is only one
23:28that is in the third person and only in
23:30the present
23:31and end . Yes , in the past it is in the
23:34past it is the same
23:36for everyone . It's all over . And this
23:38is not grammar . Whoever says that this
23:40is grammar has a conceptual error
23:42because these are not equivalencies . We
23:44haven't
23:45talked about this , we haven't even
23:46talked about verb tenses beyond past ,
23:47present and future .
23:48Zero . That's all you need to know . Yes .
23:51Knowing how to recognize that verb form
23:53in your language so that you can
23:54automatically translate it to another .
23:56And we're talking about this in English
23:58and it's the example that we'll use
24:00throughout the interview because it's
24:02perhaps the most difficult for us
24:03Spanish speakers , of the most widely
24:05spoken , but this dynamic can really be
24:07applied to any language ,
24:08any language and in fact in many
24:10languages all this doesn't exist as
24:13such and you have to use other types of
24:15particles or words to give it that
24:17sense of saying I'm playing . For
24:20example , in Chinese you have to say , "
24:22I'm playing now
24:23in Chinese , a language that people say ,
24:25oh my goodness , the little symbols ,
24:26such and such . Then if you want we can
24:28talk about it , but it's even , but it's
24:30even easier
24:31because there's no specific ending for
24:33the language . "
24:34Exactly . Even easier
24:37than English .
24:38How interesting . And why , in the end ,
24:39of course , the question that arises for
24:41me is , why do they teach us in school ?
24:44Present continuous and the present
24:46continuous table for each verb , the
24:47lists , the endless lists of vocabulary ,
24:50because we have said that in the end ,
24:52what do we want ? I mean , we don't leave
24:54school or want to learn English to be
24:56philologists ,
24:58right ? Of the English language . In the
24:59end , what we want is , damn it , to be
25:01able to speak English , to be able to
25:02conduct conversations , to be able to do
25:04a job interview in English , to be able
25:06to talk to people in English , for work ,
Desmontando el mito: ¿de verdad los niños aprenden más rápido que los adultos?
25:07because we travel there , for whatever
25:09reason . So , why do they force us to
25:12cram endless lists
25:14of everything ? Vocabulary , verbs ,
25:16irregularities , etc. , which the most
25:18normal thing , as you have said , is that
25:20in most cases we don't even use them in
25:23life ,
25:23right ? It doesn't make sense , because
25:26in my opinion , because it's the easy
25:27thing to do , hey , how do I prepare for
25:29tomorrow's class ? I print out 80 lists
25:30here , give them to the students and
25:32tell them there's a test tomorrow . And
25:35that's the easy part . Now , it's not the
25:37teacher's fault . In fact , I hope many
25:39teachers watch this interview , as I've
25:41seen in others , and are aware of the
25:43sacrilege of giving a list of words to
25:45a child , and I'm not even talking about
25:48adults , to a kid so they can memorize
25:50them without further ado . I mean , just
25:52knowing vocabulary for the sake of it
25:54does not let you speak a language . You
25:57need to know the verbal structure of
25:58that language . And that's learned in
26:00the time it took us .
26:0120 minutes .
26:01Nothing . Yes .
26:02And in less . Speaking of children , the
26:05other day Sara showed me
26:07a video of her cousin's son
26:12who I think is 4 or 5 years old .
26:14Cuos .
26:15Well , he was counting the numbers , I
26:17don't want to get it wrong , but
26:19something like in English , in German ,
26:22in Indonesia
26:24and I don't know if in French or
26:25another language , okay ? Or well , in
26:26Spanish , of course , right ? But in all
26:28these languages . It's
26:30true that children learn languages
26:32faster . Yes , it's true . Okay . Now , to
26:37say that a child is more intelligent
26:39than an adult , that is not total
26:41nonsense . I mean , it's impossible for a
26:44child to be smarter than an adult by
26:45definition . How long have we been
26:47learning and knowing things ? Of course ,
26:50but even so , the dumbest adult in the
26:53world
26:54is smarter than a 4 - year-old . It's
26:57another thing for a child to have
26:58intuition . But do you know what
26:59differentiates a child from an adult ? A
27:02child is excited to learn and improve
27:06every day , and an adult
27:08is a blank slate , right ? They come with
27:10all these biases that those who have
27:11already taught us English badly ,
27:13because how they teach you English , I
27:14mean , English is taught badly . That's
27:16how it is , we're seeing it now because
27:17of how you're saying it , right ?
27:19All of us who already have these
27:22biases or a somewhat conventional way
27:24of teaching in mind , when we want to
27:25continue learning , well , in the end ,
27:27it's very difficult for us to adopt
27:29these new ways that you're talking
27:30about . You know ? Because we come with a
27:32burden and the child , in the end ,
27:34doesn't have this burden .
27:35So everything they learn ,
27:36I mean , is in a much more effective way
27:39, as you're saying .
27:41Of course , because they are open to
27:42everything and say , " Okay , look , if
27:44he's telling me this , I believe it and
27:46I'll learn it . " Not us , we come with
27:48hidden vices . This is done this way
27:50because it has to be done this way .
27:52Later we'll talk about a topic that has
27:54generated much controversy , and since
27:56you break the pattern , he seems foreign
27:58and scary , so I don't do it . It's our
28:00problem . The adults ' . Not the child ,
28:03the child is excited every day to be a
28:05better version of himself . Every day ,
28:06until , I don't know , 9 , 10 years old , I
28:09don't know to what point one stops
28:11saying ... That's it .
28:12Yes , yes , yes , yes . Because then , for
28:15example , Pablo , once we understand
28:17that conventional teaching methods for
28:21learning languages and many other
28:22subjects , but in this case , which is
28:24what we are dedicated to learning
28:25languages , do not work . Once we have
El pilar comunicativo que es mil veces más importante que memorizar vocabulario
28:28that integrated , we have to see what
28:29verb tense is to translate literally
28:31with those little tricks that you have
28:32given us .
28:33What next step can we include to
28:35continue learning and to be able to
28:37communicate better with the aim of
28:39speaking with other people and
28:40understanding each other ?
28:42Okay , here we enter the vocabulary part
28:44.
28:45First I have detected what is going to
28:48allow me to speak , even fluently , and
28:50now what I need is to learn those key
28:53words ,
28:54okay ? that are going to allow me to
28:55have that fluency in speech , which are ,
28:58and we have already seen this before ,
29:00what words ?
29:00Verbs .
29:01Verbs . Now , 2,000 million verbs or how
29:04many , how many do you think we need
29:06verbs ? Yes .
29:07To start speaking .
29:08To start .
29:10Action verbs . Well , all verbs are
29:12action verbs by definition , but
29:13a number . Say a number . I don't
29:15know . Let's say 200 , 300. That's it .
29:19Even with less , even with 20 typical
29:22verbs , be , have , can . That's it . You
29:25could use 200. You have a whole range
29:27of things and tools to use whenever you
29:29want , because English is very easy to
29:32use . There are no conjugations , man .
29:33Yeah , I
29:34just have to learn that word , but no .
29:37At school they give me 1000 , 2000 ,
29:383000. The irregular ones , learn them
29:40already . No , man , it's much easier .
29:43Words . And here we come to the second
29:46pillar . The first one we saw is
29:47reasoning .
29:48Yes ,
29:48vital .
29:50This second one would be vocabulary , I
29:51would even put it in third place . I
29:52think the second most important pillar
29:54is pronunciation .
29:55Okay .
29:56Why would you tell me that
29:57pronunciation is important ? There are
29:59many people who don't bother to
30:00pronounce a language correctly .
30:01Well , because in the end it's like
30:04speaking a different language . If you
30:06do not pronounce it as the language
30:07demands , you will not be able to
30:09communicate with a native speaker
30:10because they will not understand .
30:11Exactly . What happens in communication ?
30:14If you don't pronounce it well , they
30:15won't understand you .
30:16Of course , that's for
30:17sure . And are you going to understand
30:19them ?
30:19Well , probably not either .
30:21How ? If you haven't taught your brain
30:23how to do this that we have here , which
30:24we'll discuss now , how that sound
30:26sounds , how that sound is reproduced ,
30:28how you expect to understand , you're
30:30speaking
30:30two different languages .
30:31Of course ,
30:32even if you're trying to speak the same
30:34language , they won't understand you .
30:36Therefore , communication is useless .
30:38Everything we've said so far , all the
30:39tricks you've mentioned ,
30:41are useless
30:42if the other person doesn't understand
30:43you .
30:43You use the same example . If instead of
30:45saying I am playing in a near-native
30:47pronunciation , you say I am playing ,
30:50the native speaker won't understand you
30:52. And if you've memorized it like this ,
30:54you've learned it like this , when the
30:55native tells you I'm playing , what
30:56you're going to hear is noise .
30:58Of course ,
30:58because there's no nasality , you're not
31:00pronouncing the consonants correctly ,
31:02you don't
31:03know what noise is coming from there .
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31:23for now . How can we pronounce English
31:25and any other language well ? By
31:27learning how to place this . You have
31:31lips and everything , teeth , tongue ,
31:34vocal cords .
31:36Any human being is capable of
31:38reproducing any sound that is generated
31:40with all these elements ,
31:42okay ?
31:42Why does a Chinese child born in China
31:44speak perfect Chinese or a German child
31:47speaks perfect in Germany or French in
31:49France ?
31:50Why do we say it's not that my
31:51pronunciation is bad ? Where does the
31:53problem really lie ? This is innate .
31:57Everyone has this . Let's put aside the
32:00problems that people may have with
32:02something here ,
32:03okay ? But the average person has all
32:05these elements . They learn how to use
32:08them , learn how to position their
32:11tongue , their teeth , how to expel air ,
32:14all that can be learned . Why don't we
32:17use it and why doesn't anyone teach us ?
32:20I don't understand it . To me it's vital
32:22. And I would leave vocabulary in third
32:24place . The first and second pillar is
32:27reasoning ,
32:28reasoning
32:29and , hand in hand , pronunciation .
32:31Because if you don't pronounce well ,
32:32reasoning is useless , you're not
32:34speaking the language .
32:35Pronunciation is more important than
32:37vocabulary . A
El simple detalle mecánico en tu boca que te hará sonar casi como un nativo
32:38thousand times more . I would even put
32:41pronunciation in the foreground , but of
32:43course , you need a minimum structure to
32:45start speaking .
32:46And that's reasoning .
32:48Exactly .
32:48Okay . So , how can we articulate all
32:50this that we have here ? To speak
32:52English more like a native , or so that
32:54a native can understand us better .
32:55By copying exactly the position and
32:59shape of the
33:00native speaker's mouth . There you have
33:03it .
33:03How do you say it in English ? Think .
33:05Let's be aware of this .
33:06Think .
33:07Think . Okay , that th people don't know
33:11how it works . What's going on there ?
33:13How does that Z sound ? No ,
33:15Z. Okay , and now let's go to the shape
33:18of our mouth and where each of these
33:21elements are placed . Where are they ?
33:23Okay , the teeth . Tongue and teeth .
33:26What's
33:26happening ? What's involved here ? Teeth
33:28and tongue . Okay . What's their relative
33:30position ? How are they placed ?
33:32Okay .
33:33Think .
33:33Okay .
33:34Think .
33:35Where are they ?
33:36The tongue touches the top of the
33:38denture .
33:39The top . Let's be more specific there .
33:41Think . If I say think .
33:44Think . Think ,
33:46the tongue is between the teeth , right ?
33:47Well , yes , that's the first thing . Yes ,
33:49you see it .
33:49Yes , yes .
33:50We're not aware of it and it's a simple
33:52sound .
33:53Yes ,
33:53just like Z.
33:54Z ,
33:55zebra is the same position .
33:57Why would someone have a hard time
33:58pronouncing that ? They just have to put
34:00their tongue between their teeth . Think
34:03,
34:03think . That's
34:03it .
34:05How do I say take ? People say take .
34:08It's not take in English . I would say
34:12take .
34:12Okay , now make it more native . What do
34:15they do to sound like they do ? Well ,
34:17they
34:18don't say take , they don't
34:19say take . What just happened there ? It
34:22sounds silly , but this is very powerful
34:24. I
34:25mean , you said before , the example you
34:27gave when it was wrong , ch , let's say ,
34:29shake . It's like take . That
34:31take .
34:33Stick your tongue to your roof .
34:34Something has happened there that
34:36stands out above all else . To tell me
34:38take , you say take .
34:40Take .
34:41What is it ? What phenomenon is there
34:43that just appeared ? Do you see how we
34:45are not aware ? You have seen it , put
34:46your hand in front of you and say , "
34:48Take ,
34:48take . " What happened ? You
34:49exhale , that's it . And that's the
34:52biggest difference between English and
34:54Spanish . We say take
34:57and car ,
34:58not care .
34:59Take ,
35:00take . The air comes out , do you see ?
35:02And it's silly , but since no one tells
35:04you , you've been pronouncing it wrong
35:06your whole life .
35:07And it's a ridiculous detail . Sure , you
35:10say , " Seriously , they're not going to
35:12teach you this in school . " Well , they
35:13don't teach it to you . They expect you
35:15to develop it by pure science .
35:17Well , I also studied at the British
35:22Council . I
35:23went every afternoon , two days a week ,
35:25for two or three hours . Apart from the
35:27fact that it was a total drag ,
35:29or for me it was a total drag , maybe
35:30there were people who had a good time ,
35:32which I'll never understand . For me it
35:33was a total drag . And honestly , I
35:35didn't learn . Well , let's see , I don't
35:37know if I learned much or not . I don't
35:38think so , I didn't learn much ,
35:40but because , I mean , everything you're
35:42telling me , uh ,
35:44come on , it's new to me . But how long
35:46did it take us to learn this ?
35:47No , I don't know how long it took us .
35:4825 minutes , half an hour . It's just
35:51that if we put it in less , you have it
35:53because there are four things counted
35:55and more with English because for some
35:57reason 95 % of people speak it better or
35:59worse , but they do speak it . That's
36:01because it's the easiest language in
36:03the world
36:03and that's why it's the vehicular
36:05language and the one that everyone uses
36:06.
36:06More than in Spanish , of course , with
36:07all these cases that you just mentioned
36:09, come on , it's very clear . I mean , if
36:10right now it were a foreigner who spoke
36:12Spanish , it would be much more
36:13complicated
36:14than the other way around . Of course ,
36:15now we're working on it , uh , seeing how
36:17to turn this around . Well , I would tell
36:19him that the first few days he should
36:20only use the r ,
36:22I to eat , I to go , I to live and that's
36:25it . I can't complicate his life with
36:27conjugations from the first day . He'll
36:29go crazy
36:30because the goal is to communicate , to
36:33convey what you want to say . Well ,
36:36start with the easy part ,
36:37so you are understood . And for that , as
36:39you said , reasoning is necessary .
36:40Pronunciation has been made clear . We
36:42have also seen that in the vocabulary
36:44section ,
36:45the first words we have to learn are
36:47100 , 200 verbs . That's it , even less ,
36:50but that should get you started .
36:53After the verbs , what would be the next
36:55pillar ? Would it still be vocabulary or
La configuración exacta de idioma y subtítulos que debes usar al ver series para no bloquear tu cerebro
36:58would there be another layer ?
37:01There is a single word that can be used
37:03to represent anything and I'm already
37:05saying it . What word is it ? I want to
37:10refer to this , or this , this thing ,
37:13this thing . And then you can ask , " Hey ,
37:15how do you say this ? How do you say
37:17this in English ? " Mike , perfect ,
37:20but I don't need more . That comes from
37:23daily practice . I don't need to learn
37:26vocabulary , nouns , things , anything . Do
37:29you understand ? Yes .
37:29And like adverbs , links . There is a
37:31single two-letter word that works for
37:33everything . Elque , therefore . So ,
37:36that's it . But no , people , but why
37:42don't you need that to start ? Do it
37:44later if you want , but don't beat
37:46yourself up . You just
37:47need verbs to speak . That's it . If you
37:50press me , the subjects , because of
37:52course , since there are no conjugations
37:53in English , I need to say who I'm
37:55talking about . Ah , you , that's it . But
37:58you don't need anything else , man .
37:59Yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah . Anyway . For
38:01example , something I force myself to do
38:03, I used to work , I worked in an
38:05international English team . Yeah .
38:08When I left that company , my English
38:09disappeared and I started doing
38:11business , blah , blah , blah , blah , blah ,
38:12blah . And I understand English
38:14perfectly . I watch videos in English , I
38:15can watch movies in English perfectly .
38:18Um , I can read English , more slowly ,
38:20but I can read English , but when I
38:21start talking , it's much harder for me ,
38:24right ? What happens ? I say at those
38:27times , I say , well , I'll put on the
38:30series , it's
38:31harder for me , but I try to put them on
38:32in English ,
38:33okay ? Uh , here comes the
38:36issue of subtitles .
38:36Famous issue . That's
38:39how we should use subtitles if we watch
38:41a series or a movie in English .
38:42Okay . My recommendation is to always
38:45use subtitles . Alright , now , what is it
38:48that everyone does ? What is it that
38:50they always do ? Use them in what
38:52language ?
38:53In Spanish .
38:53In Spanish . And the audio ? In English ,
38:56right ? Do you think you learn that way ?
38:59I don't
39:00know . We're going to go over it
39:02quickly , okay ? And I also encourage
39:04everyone to try it . First question , and
39:06this is what we've talked about before ,
39:09since it's new , since no one has told
39:10you before , for whatever reason it
39:12scares me and I don't want to do it
39:14because I learned English the other way
39:16. Advice , never ever . Okay , I hope it
39:22is perfectly clear that you must never
39:24use Spanish subtitles because you will
39:27destroy the way your brain functions ,
39:29all right ? If you're listening to
39:31English and you don't have a good level
39:33of English and you put a subtitle below
39:36in Spanish , where's your attention
39:37going to go ? It's going to
39:39go to the subtitle .
39:39To the Spanish subtitle . You're only
39:41going to hear noise in English . Yes .
39:43Okay . Ideally , everything should be in
39:45English , audio and subtitle ,
39:47okay ? To see the direct equivalence
39:48between what I'm listening to and what
39:50I'm reading .
39:51But what if I don't have a good level
39:52of English ?
39:54How do I learn English ? The only way is
39:57to put on the audio in Spanish so that
40:00your brain is already relaxed ,
40:01understanding everything it's hearing ,
40:04but at the same time you're reading the
40:06structure of English below .
40:08English subtitle .
40:09English subtitle . In
40:11other words , subtitles .
40:12Spanish subtitle ,
40:14regardless of the language . Subtitles .
40:17In English ,
40:18regardless of the language , right ? Be
40:20careful , it depends on the target
40:21language you're learning .
40:22I mean in the case of Spanish or
40:24English ,
40:24okay ?
40:25Always English subtitles ,
40:26always .
40:27If you don't know , if you don't know ,
40:29to recap , if you don't know English and
40:30you want to learn English , apart from
40:32listening to this podcast until the end
40:33,
40:34what you have to do is subscribe ,
40:37of course , to the newsletter , because
40:39we have a little gift prepared , right ,
40:40Pablo ? Exactly . Yes , yes . The 200
40:43little words that we are talking about .
40:45I promise to ...
40:47Well , Pablo is going to give us a list
40:48there so that all those who are
40:49starting to speak English from scratch ,
40:51well , you have them there . Those who
40:52already know English also have some
40:53surprises that we haven't thought of ,
40:55so we are not going to tell you , but
40:56you also have some surprises that will
40:57be useful to you . And , of course , as
40:59you know : our newsletter , where every
41:00week I personally send you a piece of
41:02advice that will help you achieve your
41:04goals , because that's what this podcast
41:06is about . Personal advice , either from
41:08my companies or from the guests who
41:10come here , many of whom , well , all have
41:13a lot of knowledge and experience to
41:15contribute that will help you . With
41:18that aside , we were talking about
41:21subtitles . If I don't know any English
41:24and I want to start learning English ,
41:25in addition to what we've said ,
41:28what I have to do is put on the English
41:30subtitles
41:30with the Spanish audio .
41:32Exactly . In
41:33order to be able to follow along , right
41:34?
41:34In order to be able to see , to be able
41:36to see the equivalence , okay ? Mind you ,
41:38not the translation , because many
41:39people say , " But it never matches . "
41:41It's impossible ,
41:42okay ? Making what you're listening
41:44match what you're reading , the
41:45translations that are made , is another
41:47issue . Because that's a matter of
41:49voiceover and dubbing where you have to
41:51fit the mouth , the sounds match and you
41:53adapt and fix it , but the meaning , the
41:55context in the end has to be the same .
41:58Therefore , you don't need literalness
42:01between what you hear and what you read
42:02. You need the context to be the same .
42:05And your goal , and this is what we work
42:07on in class , is for you to understand
42:09the written structure of English ,
42:10okay ? You are already understanding
42:12Spanish , it is effortless , you do it
42:14naturally . Now understand what is
42:15written there in English , because most
42:18of the time it won't match , but you are
42:20seeing a native structure in English .
42:22Learn that and start looking for those
42:25equivalencies . It is possible that in
42:27the audio you are listening to a
42:29present tense and in English you are
42:31seeing a well or you hear a future
42:32tense and they put a down . Okay , the
42:34translation is not literal , but the
42:36equivalency is what will allow you to
Cómo enfocar y superar el bloqueo mental en una entrevista de trabajo en inglés
42:38understand what you are reading and
42:40understand the structure of the
42:42language . This is vital because if you
42:45don't end up reading Spanish . There are
42:47many people who tell me , " I learned
42:49English like this , listening to English
42:51and subtitles in Spanish
42:52and I've been like this for 30 years . "
42:53It's true .
42:5430 years .
42:5530 years . Okay , of course , of course .
42:56That's where the problem lies . 30 years
42:58.
42:58Nowadays , who has 30 years to do that ?
43:01Or who has started when they were
43:02little , hey , perfect , good for you . But
43:04try this because you are going to flip
43:05out . That's how I do it , with English
43:08and any other language . I
43:09mean , the one thing that has become
43:10clear to me is that you must never ,
43:12under any circumstances , set the
43:13subtitles to be in Spanish .
43:14Never . Never in Spanish . You'll mess up
43:16the mechanics of your brain .
43:18Never do that .
43:19Funny , man . Well , look , I'm the first
43:21one , huh ? Who did it . Of course .
43:23Very good .
43:24Okay , now we have the outline , I'm
43:26having it super hard in my head .
43:28How to speak English well or how to
43:31learn a language correctly in the
43:32shortest time possible
43:34with the goal of communicating .
43:36The first thing we've already said was
43:38that reasoning along with the
43:39pronunciation that you know how to
43:41pronounce hand in hand .
43:42Vocabulary . We start with the verbs .
43:45Then , uh , thing .
43:48Yes , we start with the verbs and end
43:50with the verbs . I mean , regarding those
43:52things , I ask how do you say this in
43:54English . That's it . You ask the person
43:56how to say this , whatever you need , and
43:58you know it .
43:59How to watch series ? How to watch
44:00movies properly so as not to burden the
44:02mechanics of the brain and to
44:04effectively learn whether we are
44:05starting from scratch or if we want to
44:07improve our English ?
44:08Ex . In addition to this , I think there
44:11is another issue that worried me ,
44:13because when they are not learning and
44:16it works by contagion , and the issue of
44:18job interviews , man , because I knew
44:20that at some point in the job interview
44:23the
44:24English was going to change at any
44:25moment , you know ? Because they also
44:27warned you , hey , you know that at some
44:28point I am suddenly going to start
44:29speaking in English , so of course , here
44:31I was really freaked out because I
44:32thought , [ __ ] , what if they don't ask
44:33me what I haven't prepared for and such
44:35and such . So , for all those people
44:37listening to us who have to , well , now
44:39we'll talk about something else that
44:41I'm not going to reveal yet ,
44:43but for all those people listening to
44:44us who have an interview coming up or
44:46are looking for a job and know that
44:48they're going to be asked English
44:50because they always ask English ,
44:52what advice could you give them to
44:53prepare for this in the best possible
44:55way and above all to overcome that fear
44:57? You said it , you have to prepare .
45:01There you go . The question now is , how
45:03do I prepare for that ? What typical
45:05questions do they ask you in an
45:06interview in English ? What are they ?
45:08Hey , why do you want this job ? What are
45:11your strengths ? Uh , your weaknesses
45:13that you're good at , they're always the
45:15same . It's obvious , man . Prepare for
45:17that . Prepare for that . Now we're back
45:21to the same thing . How do I prepare for
45:23those structures or those questions ?
45:25What do I do ? Do I memorize the phrases
45:28? Would you do it like that ?
45:29No , not now .
45:30Of course , I did
45:30before . I used to do it like that ,
45:32actually ,
45:32and everyone else does it ,
45:33and that's why it scared me , because
45:35since I was relying on memory , I mean ,
45:36if someone asks me something I haven't
45:38memorized , I might mess it up .
45:39Exactly .
45:40I learn a sentence that I want to say
45:42and since I don't understand it , I've
45:43simply memorized it , how do I bring it
45:45back to my head later ? I forget . And
45:48what happens to people ? Blank paper .
45:51[ __ ] , that's it . You have to have a
45:53clear structure in your head and you
45:55can say whatever you want , whatever ,
45:57but if you don't have that clear
45:59structure , you're going to go blank and
46:01you're going to get blocked . In other
46:04words , preparing the questions that are
46:05always the same . We can also add a
46:07little humor in there if we want ,
46:08because that always relieves tension ,
46:10okay ?
46:11But hey , worry about understanding how
46:13the language works at a basic level
46:15first . We saw it today at the beginning
46:17, there are four things . Keep that
46:19clear and the tension will
46:20automatically go down from here to here
46:22. You're always going to be a little
46:23nervous .
46:23Well , that's inevitable , right ? But in
46:25the end , you gain that confidence in
46:27knowing that , no matter what they ask
46:28you , if you know this , if you know what
46:30we've covered , these keys , these , this
46:32step-by-step process that we've
46:34revealed here , it's not that
46:35complicated . Let's say ,
46:37if you want , we can also send your
46:39people a video where I explain the
46:40seven typical questions that they
46:41always ask you and how to prepare for
46:43each one of them . Go ahead , tell us
46:45some and we'll send the rest to those
46:47who subscribe .
46:48Tell us some . Well , it's just a matter
46:51of having a bit of humor too and hey ,
46:53what works for you ? Or why do you want
46:55this position ?
46:57Something as simple as that never fails
46:59. Why do you want this ? Well , that's
47:01obvious , that's obvious , but the truth
47:03is that there are many people who
47:04didn't even prepare for it or anything .
47:06Why do you want this position ? And then
47:08they often asked me , tell me about a
47:10situation , well , let's give an example ,
47:12right ? If you're applying for a
47:13managerial position ,
47:14a manager has to have leadership .
47:16Sure .
47:17If you have to manage people , and when
47:18you manage people , leadership is
47:20essential . Sure .
47:21So I remember someone asked me , " Tell
47:23me about a situation in which you
47:26showed leadership ,
La promesa de los 30 días: ¿es realmente posible comunicarte en tan poco tiempo?
47:27for example . " It's that
47:28simple . You have to have
47:29a super open-ended question at the end ,
47:30right ?
47:31Sure , but the more open-ended it is ,
47:33the better for you , because you can
47:35always go off on a tangent and answer
47:37something different or related , but it
47:40will always lead you to the same thing .
47:42You've already thought about this at
47:44home , a situation in which you've shown
47:46leadership . Well , who knows ? Well , look
47:48, I helped my friend when I don't know
47:50what . It's like , " help my friend when I
47:53was 20 years old . " It's just that I
47:56don't really
47:56need anything else ,
47:57but it's not even necessary to ask
47:59these questions because in the end ,
48:00it's as simple as applying what we're
48:01already talking about .
48:02And I'll go further . Perfect . You've
48:04prepared seven questions . Great . The
48:07moment you pronounce almost like a
48:09native , tell me what happens in that
48:11interview .
48:12They automatically assume
48:14that you already speak English and cut
48:15it off . Yes ,
48:16but if you say , " When I was young , uh ,
48:20I think it was good . " That's when it
48:22continues to impress you .
48:24Sure , sure , sure .
48:25But if you simply start with that
48:26sentence , well , it doesn't
48:28last as long as expected . That's it .
48:30Why ? Because by doing this , you're
48:32practically going to have a higher
48:34level than your interviewer , at least
48:36in terms of pronunciation . The
48:37interviewer gets scared and
48:39automatically says , " Okay , okay , let's
48:41continue . The interview in English is
48:44over and you may know 200 words , but
48:46you also pronounce that it's done .
48:49Yes , check . That's it , check .
48:52No , no , great . I want to talk about
48:55your academy , Pablo , because you also
48:56have the language and communication
48:58academy , which is Payb Learn . You have
49:01already helped hundreds of students ,
49:05let's say , thousands ,
49:06thousands , even
49:07thousands of students who have passed
49:08through your academy
49:09with a promise of fraud .
49:12Yes , yes , it's a total scam
49:14and it means you can learn English or
49:17any other language .
49:18Yeah .
49:19In 30 days . Of course , I hear this
49:21because I know you and I know that the
49:22fraud thing is a joke , obviously , and I
49:24know that's how it is ,
49:26but there are people who might hear ,
49:27learn English in 30 days and the good
49:29thing is they're going to say , " Here
49:31comes the fraud , this guy , he sells
49:32courses
49:33and he only wants my money and this is
49:34worthless , it's another internet scam .
49:36" Exactly .
49:37What would you say to all those people
49:40who might come to consider that ? And
49:42why is it legitimate for them to be
49:43considering such a thing ? Because the
49:44educational system has taught us to
49:47speak a language in a limited amount of
49:49time because you never end up speaking
49:51a language well
49:52if you only follow the educational
49:53system , but it has taught us to speak a
49:55language in a long time .
49:57So ,
49:57I completely understand someone who
49:59thinks that speaking a language in 30
50:01days is impossible . So , what would you
50:03say to people like this who might think
50:05that ?
50:05Note that you just gave the answer now .
50:07You said speaking instead of learning .
50:09Yes , but first a nuance . I have
50:12students who are 50 years old who don't
50:14speak English , I mean , they haven't
50:16even learned in 50 years . How could
50:18they not be shocked to hear a guy who
50:20just came out here and said that yes ,
50:21in 30 days , in a month , you can do it ?
50:24We just demonstrated it here today .
50:26Knowing what we saw at the beginning
50:28and understanding that , you can start
50:29speaking . And that's the difference .
50:31The first thing I tell them , because
50:33many people ask me this , is , " I didn't
50:35tell you that you're going to learn in
50:3730 days . I told you that you're going
50:39to what ? In 30 days , learn , not
50:42communicate ,
50:43speak , communicate . That's it .
50:45And that's the goal , to
50:47communicate in a language in the
50:49shortest possible time . You have your
50:51whole life to keep learning as such .
50:53I'm still learning English and other
50:55languages , but damn , if it's just
50:58speaking it , in one day I can be
51:00speaking a new language , communicating
51:03effectively to get out of any problem
51:05or situation ,
51:06because you only need those four or
51:08five little legs of the language . Of
51:11course it's possible and in less , in 30
51:13days and less , as long as you want it
51:15and have the enthusiasm of that child
51:17you once were and say , " Come on , I
51:19believe it . I'm open to everything and
51:21I learn because this is true . " Of all
51:25the people who start with you at Pable
51:28Earn ,
51:29what do you think are the mistakes or
51:32the thoughts or all those circumstances
51:37that prevented them or those blocks
51:39that they had that as soon as you
51:41removed them with whatever you told
51:43them , taught them , they immediately
51:45learned , you know ? And they accelerated
51:48their pace a lot .
51:48Mm , let them think in Spanish , everyone
51:51makes the same mistake and I tell them
51:53and I insist on it in the first class ,
51:55look at these equivalencies , use them .
51:58The mistake is that they keep bringing
51:59them from memory . Come on , let's say if
52:02I had a good teacher . If I would have I
52:04will have . You're not reasoning . You're
52:07going back to the same thing again .
52:09Think in Spanish . First learn Spanish
52:12and how you speak . Then everything
52:14flows . That's it . Then the smart guy on
52:17duty will come along and say , " No , but
52:19it's also used for I used to play . " " I
52:20don't think so , I don't need that right
52:22now . I'll learn it later . I
52:25would go , I would go . You would go , he
52:27would go . I will go , you're done .
52:29That's enough for me to start and it's
52:31not even worth putting labels on ,
52:33because I've forgotten all of them and
52:35I'm passionate about grammar , but I
52:37don't learn labels anymore . It's just
52:39that it's useless to me . If we really
52:42do this process for each language in a
52:45year , how many languages can we speak
52:47in a year ? We're
52:48not going to say , obviously , that we
52:50can speak as perfectly as a professor ,
52:51but
52:51you know , of course , you know what
52:52happens , there aren't many geeks like
52:54me , I
52:54mean , we're polyglots because we're
52:55passionate about this ,
52:56but a guy who likes languages , not like
52:59you , but who knows , someone who likes
53:01to travel and this year I'm going to
53:04London and I don't know , Germany . You
53:06go to Berlin and you have to learn the
53:08basics of German . Perfect .
53:10How long would it take me for
53:13an afternoon ? Maybe the pronunciation
53:15will take a while . A little bit more .
53:17It's okay . It's about knowing how to
53:18place this . All human beings , human
53:20beings have this . Learn how to place it
53:22and learn how to reproduce the sounds .
53:24It's going to say , " I want to drink
53:26water . " I want to drink water . You say
53:28drinken . And I'm using exactly the same
53:31thing . The order of two words has
53:32changed there . End is the same . If it's
53:36Chinese , h is over and I'm saying four
53:40things , four yes .
53:41But I don't know chen or German .
53:43Sure , then later on , but then we
53:44subtitle it and put it so that people
53:46can see in color that each thing
53:48represents exactly the same thing , only
53:50that it is represented by different
53:52symbols . Within Europe , well , we all
53:54have our alphabet , Cyrillic has its own
53:56, perfect . Chinese , Japanese , are
53:59pictographic , they are little drawings
54:01that represent concepts and that sound
54:03a certain way , but that still have the
54:05same function in the sentence . I have
54:07my subject , my verb and whatever .
54:10And everything works the same . Learn to
54:12pronounce this . Learn to place all this
54:15. If you're a human being , you can do
54:17it . If you don't , it's because you're
54:19lazy .
54:20Yes , yes , yes , yes . Well , good
54:22masterclass , uh ,
54:22in languages , no , no , completely .
54:24We need to complicate the sentence a
54:25bit . A little bit , the one before , huh ?
54:26Let's see how it goes . Remember , remind
54:28me of the time . If I had a good teacher
54:31, I would learn English .
54:37Perfect . Now you've done the
54:38translation . Could you explain it to
54:39someone who's starting from scratch in
54:41English ?
54:42Yes .
54:42Okay . How would you explain that if I
54:44had a good teacher ? You said , " If I had
54:46a
54:47good teacher . " "
54:48First I would say , " Okay , if I had a
54:49good teacher I would have . " What's the
54:50first thing ? It's the verb tense .
54:52Exactly . I'll go to the verb .
54:53Sure .
54:53First the verb had . Okay , we have the
54:56verb . To have there . I can see that
54:57it's a past tense . Great .
54:58Past . Keep going , keep going . Let's see
55:00, you know .
55:00If I , if I had , well , like in teacher ,
55:02a good teacher , this is to see the
55:03words as they say , that's it . The
55:05translation is the same , it's word for
55:06word .
55:07A good teacher , a good teacher .
55:11I would learn English , right ?
55:12Mm .
55:13I would learn . That's a
55:15conditional .
55:16Okay . Whether it's called a conditional
55:18. I don't care . I don't care . It's just
55:20that it's useless to me . The I , you
55:21know , the IA is the will .
55:23The will , the
55:24would , sorry . The would . So it's I
55:26would learn English . That's it . That's
55:29it . You add the W that replaces the
55:31conjugation . That's it . That's it . Do
55:34you want to complicate that sentence
55:35verbally ?
55:36Come on , okay .
55:36Okay .
55:37If I had a good teacher , I would have
55:40learned English . All I did was put
55:43something in there . It
55:45would have had . It's still past tense .
55:47Okay , but now , how many verbs do we
55:49have ?
55:49Two have . and had .
55:51And I have to know what those verbs are
55:53.
55:54Okay .
55:54Okay . That had is clear . We have the
55:57heard side before the verb to have .
55:59Let's see if it is or if we are facing
56:01an exception here . Now let's reason it
56:02out regularly or whatever .
56:03Here we have put the would have in
56:05front .
56:05Okay .
56:05Okay . We have complicated things . What
56:08is that would have ?
56:11It would have is the same as , that is ,
56:12it is still past tense .
56:13Okay , we detected that would have had
56:15which we don't care what it is called .
56:18I don't give a damn . I know it is past
56:19tense , but let's see what verb it is .
56:21Would have had to have to have is
56:24had , but if there had , if I can't
56:25recognize it in my language , I'm
56:27screwed .
56:27It is , that is , the tob to be
56:29to be ,
56:31that would be , would be
56:33half
56:34the to see from before . Yes , yes , yes ,
56:36yes , yes .
56:36But now , in What tense ? I'm not in the
56:38present tense anymore .
56:39The " habría " now , what tense is it ?
56:41Past . So it's " had . " That's it . And
56:44that " had , " well , then " have " is not
56:46regular . I can't put " have , " I
56:49mean , it's " had " had . It's also " have . "
56:53We'll
56:53subtitle this later , okay ? So people
56:54can see it and see what it's like .
56:56If I had hat , that's it .
56:57Double " hat , " that's it . Now , now , that
57:00" hat " is the same , the first and the
57:01second . They have nothing to do with
57:03each other . An
57:04English verb where the same verb is
57:07used
57:08for both things . But I have to know how
57:10to recognize that . If I had had a good
57:13teacher . If I had had a good teacher .
El problema oculto detrás de la dopamina en las famosas apps de idiomas
57:17One " had " and the other " had " have
57:18nothing in common . They're two
57:19different verbs , but they're written
57:20the same . " habría " and " habría , " okay
57:23, I won't repeat it , " habría , " I'm
57:25already using " habría " ahead . If I had
57:27had a good teacher , I would have
57:28learned English . People are always "
57:30habría , " " habría , " " habría , " " habría . "
57:31That's a problem for English . I
57:33would have learned English like I do
57:35now . Just like before , but with have I
57:40have to admit that it would have become
57:41the auxiliary again .
57:43As I say ,
57:44have I would have learn .
57:47That would have been a good teacher . I
57:49would have a good teacher . I told you I
57:51would have learned . I would have
57:52learned . I would have learned with Ed a
57:56good teacher .
57:58And look how my neurons are here .
58:01How did you reason now ? But this is
58:03[ __ ] awesome .
58:04Yes ,
58:05because you never forget it .
58:08In life
58:09I would have I recognize that it is the
58:11truth let's see that it has the W in
58:12front would have and now he has learned
58:15yes learn
58:17the whole sentence . If I had had a good
58:18teacher I would have learned English .
58:20Tell me .
58:21If I had had a good teacher . I would
58:26have
58:28I would have learned English . Exactly .
58:32There it would be . Okay . Have and now
58:34it has been learned . It is impossible
58:36for you to forget it . Yes , impossible .
58:40And then put the subtitles in English
58:41and you'll flip out , kid .
58:42Of course , now is when I read the
58:44English . First I need that little base ,
58:46otherwise it doesn't make sense either .
58:47And now is when I start to Reading the
58:50English subtitles and recognizing all
58:52these structures is foolproof .
58:54Foolproof .
58:55Why doesn't anyone do it ? Well , because
58:57people are afraid of change ,
58:58because English is taught
58:59poorly , period .
59:02Hey , what do you think ? Because I see a
59:04lot of friends who are hooked , man ,
59:06on these apps that we're not going to
59:07advertise here because this podcast is
59:09going to reach a lot of people ,
59:11right ? But seriously , dueling and all
59:12that stuff , there are a lot of people
59:14who are addicted to those types of apps
59:15. I have friends who are into
59:16Portuguese with such and such
59:18and you really see them and say , " I
59:19haven't done doing such and such , but
59:20then really if they don't know , they
59:22don't know how to speak it , they know a
59:23word , they know loose vocabulary , but
59:24you don't care about loose vocabulary
59:25because you want to speak it and loose
59:27vocabulary is useless for speaking .
59:28What do you think of all these types of
59:29apps ? Do they really work ? Do they not
59:31work ? We've
59:31seen it before , they don't work . But
59:33even for me , who already has a command
59:35of languages , I've tried to learn
59:37languages
59:38and it's unfeasible because I don't ,
59:39the app doesn't teach me the essence of
59:41the language , it doesn't teach me the
59:43structures , it gives me translations ,
59:46equivalencies that it doesn't explain
59:47to me . It's impossible to learn like
59:49that .
59:49What happens ? These apps give you a
59:51very high dopamine level with the
59:53prizes . It's like a slot machine . Eh ,
59:55that's how it works . Hey , if you want
59:57to have a good time , it's fine . Clin
59:58clin , clin clin , prize , period , you're
1:00:00first , you're second ,
1:00:01you catch up with your friends , and so
1:00:03on . It's
1:00:03ego . You were talking to each other
1:00:05before , it's ego . So it doesn't go any
1:00:07further . You don't learn , you don't
1:00:08learn .
1:00:09One very important thing , a very
1:00:12important example of this that a
1:00:14student told me the other day , the
1:00:17sentence was salmon , okay ? I want
1:00:19salmon . You directly say , I want salmon
1:00:23, okay ? Simple , let's not complicate
1:00:26things . It said in English I'll have
1:00:31the salmon . I have the salmon ,
1:00:34right ? I will have salmon .
1:00:37And I translated it as I want the
1:00:38salmon or I want salmon . Tell me what
1:00:41the problem is automatically there .
1:00:44Well , it's not like what we've seen
1:00:45before , it's all over the place . Come
1:00:47on ,
1:00:47if you put it in English , I'm starting
1:00:49from scratch , okay ? I will have the
1:00:51salmon .
1:00:52I good .
1:00:52I will .
1:00:53Ah , I will . Okay , future . It could be I
1:00:55would . In this case , it was I will .
1:00:56Future . I will have
1:00:57future . I will have the salmon . I will
1:00:59have
1:00:59the salmon . What happens with have ?
1:01:01Which also means to take in English .
1:01:02Yes .
1:01:03Okay . So , what he's saying is I will
1:01:04take the salmon . Ah , where's
1:01:06the problem ? When I go down to the
1:01:08solution , which is where the
1:01:09seriousness of the matter lies , it says
1:01:11, " I want ,
1:01:11the salmon . "
1:01:12Of course . You're learning incorrectly .
1:01:14Why ? I mean , what's happening there at
¿Hará la Inteligencia Artificial que aprender idiomas deje de ser necesario?
1:01:16the level of equivalences ? You're
1:01:19telling him
1:01:19that you don't speak , you don't speak
1:01:20Spanish like that .
1:01:22But why ? What's happening at the
1:01:23structural level of verbs ? Above , what
1:01:25tense am I speaking in ?
1:01:27Future .
1:01:28I'll take it ,
1:01:29below it says I want . What tense am I
1:01:31speaking in there ?
1:01:31Present . It is not associated . Do
1:01:33you realize how life works ?
1:01:35People learn that I will have the
1:01:37salmon is I want the salmon and the
1:01:39moment they have to use each of those
1:01:41structures separately , they say , I
1:01:43mean , they can tell you not only not to
1:01:44learn English , but to learn it badly .
1:01:46Of course that is what everyone has
1:01:48done , learn it badly . Because yes ,
1:01:50memory goes up to a certain point , you
1:01:51can memorize 10 , 20 sentences . Perfect .
1:01:53Do it with the question , what is your
1:01:54name ?
1:01:55Here the problem is if you have a
1:01:56little English you don't identify it ,
1:01:57but if you learn from scratch , that's
1:01:58when they trick you .
1:01:58Of course . And even if you know English
1:02:01, uh , I will have . Okay , that's how
1:02:03it's said in English .
1:02:04Ah , okay , well now yes , such and such .
1:02:06What I should have put below in the
1:02:07Spanish translation , what would it be ?
1:02:09And this is the reverse analysis . In
1:02:11English , perfect . I will have the
1:02:12salmon . Okay . What should I have put
1:02:15below in the translation instead of I
1:02:16want the salmon ?
1:02:17To say I want the salmon . Translate
1:02:19what's in English .
1:02:20I will have the salmon .
1:02:22I'll take the salmon . That's it , man .
1:02:24Sure .
1:02:26How can you put I want there ? And it's
1:02:28supposed to be linguists who do this ,
1:02:30but then I've spoken to philosophers or
1:02:32philosophers who are philologists who
1:02:33have told me that they have a C2 in
1:02:35English and that they don't dare to say
1:02:37a word in English .
1:02:38Why is that ? Because we're not doing
1:02:41things right there . That a philologist
1:02:45who is an expert in grammar , who knows
1:02:47all the labels , tells you
1:02:49his own word , uh , I don't dare to say a
1:02:51word in English . It's very serious , huh
1:02:53? It's very serious that a person who
1:02:56doesn't know ...
1:02:57Yeah , yeah , of course , no idea . Yeah ,
1:02:58yeah ,
1:02:58imagine , imagine .
1:03:01Hey , what do you think too ? I'm curious
1:03:02because , well , now we're experiencing a
1:03:04real boom in artificial intelligence .
1:03:06How do you think this will affect
1:03:09languages ? This is more of a reflection
1:03:12of yours , because of course , there
1:03:14comes a time when , well , I've seen
1:03:16people who don't speak Spanish with
1:03:18these simultaneous translation
1:03:20earpieces , you know ?
1:03:22Uh , by artificial intelligence , where
1:03:24there's not even a translator on the
1:03:25other side translating in real time ,
1:03:27but rather the earpiece translates it
1:03:29for you directly . Do
1:03:30you think there will come a time when
1:03:32learning languages won't be necessary ?
1:03:35Learning languages , no . In no case . And
1:03:37I'll tell you why now , but the
1:03:39profession of human translator is
1:03:41really screwed up .
1:03:42Of course ,
1:03:43because you're going to need a person
1:03:45by your side who can make mistakes and
1:03:47can be slower to translate if you have
1:03:49an earpiece that does it automatically .
1:03:52I mean , that's great and unbeatable . I
1:03:55think translators will need it , maybe
1:03:56this generates a little controversy ,
1:03:57but that's what we're here for . I'm
1:03:59just making a warning . If I were a
1:04:00translator , which I thought about at
1:04:02the time and discarded for certain
1:04:04reasons , I would be even less likely to
1:04:06do something else because nowadays an
1:04:08AI ,
1:04:09for example , set up a translation
1:04:11company with AI . For example , get on
1:04:13the AI bandwagon and train it yourself ,
1:04:16and you know how to train a translation
1:04:18AI because you have that knowledge , but
1:04:21if I dedicate myself exclusively to
1:04:23translating , I am at a great
1:04:25disadvantage . If the AI sounds okay to
1:04:27you , then it is perfect for doing this .
1:04:30Great . Speaking a language is another
El gran mito sobre tener que irse a vivir al extranjero para aprender a hablar
1:04:32matter . What happens if you talk to a
1:04:34person face to face in their language ?
1:04:36How is that different from talking with
1:04:38an earpiece ?
1:04:39Sure . The connection you generate with
1:04:41that person is incomparable .
1:04:42We are human beings , of course . I was
1:04:44in California a little while ago and
1:04:46the guy from Apple was telling me that
1:04:47there will come a time when this is
1:04:49going to be a zoo . Everyone in their
1:04:51own home , there won't be any work ,
1:04:52there won't be any doing , and
1:04:54everything will work itself out , maybe
1:04:56at that great moment , but today what we
1:04:58know is that we are social beings and
1:05:00that we need to relate to each other .
1:05:01Absolutely .
1:05:02Whoever manages to generate a
1:05:04conversation , direct communication with
1:05:07another human being , is here . Whoever
1:05:10doesn't want to do that is here . And
1:05:13each person , hey , makes their own
1:05:15decision .
1:05:15No , no , 100 % . Pablo , let's go to a
1:05:18section that we always have in the
1:05:20podcast , which if you've seen some and
1:05:21I know you have , you know it , is the
1:05:23one about myths and truths .
1:05:24Myths and truths .
1:05:25Okay , I'm going to tell you statements
1:05:28and you have to argue whether it's a
1:05:29myth
1:05:30or a truth . Okay ,
1:05:32interesting . Okay ,
1:05:34so let's go with the first one . Pablo ,
1:05:37English is taught badly ,
1:05:39very badly , right ? Right ? English and
1:05:41everything and maths and physics ,
1:05:43everything .
1:05:43Yes , yes , yes . I agree . I mean , the
1:05:45entire episode argues that this is the
1:05:47case .
1:05:48It's proven .
1:05:50Pablo , the most important thing if you
1:05:51want to learn English or any language
1:05:53is grammar .
1:05:55Define grammar . If grammar is what we
1:05:58just did with equivalencies , it's vital
1:06:01. If grammar is learning that the
1:06:03adjective goes before the noun , that
1:06:04this is called the conditional , that
1:06:05this is the past perfect , that this I
1:06:07don't know what else . Okay , do it
1:06:09yourself if you want . That's not how
1:06:11you learn .
1:06:11No , we've already seen that it's not
1:06:13either .
1:06:15To learn a language , the best thing is
1:06:17to go and live in a foreign country for
1:06:19a while .
1:06:22I mean to learn from scratch , yes . Or
1:06:26well , even if you have a foundation .
1:06:27What happens when you go to a foreign
1:06:29country ? The first group of friends you
1:06:31make are Spanish .
1:06:34And if you're English , your first group
1:06:35will be English . And if you're German ,
1:06:37your first group will be German . What
1:06:39do you end up speaking ? German , English
1:06:41, Spanish .
1:06:43Unless you isolate yourself and go to a
1:06:46place where you can only ...
1:06:48You just mentioned being a social human
1:06:50being , and that's not going to happen
1:06:51in 99 % of cases . Of course . It's
1:06:52not going to happen . If that's not
1:06:53going to happen , you won't learn a
1:06:54language that way . It's not necessary .
1:06:56I learn them from the comfort of my own
1:06:57home . No , directly . It just doesn't
1:07:02make sense . Unless you isolate yourself
1:07:04, right ? And you have no other choice .
1:07:05Fantastic , you can try , but it's going
1:07:08to be much harder .
1:07:10And what do you think , or is there a
1:07:13specific point in the life of a person
1:07:15who wants to learn English when it
1:07:17would be a good time to go to work or
1:07:19to learn or to improve , let's say ,
1:07:21English ?
1:07:22Well , that's very important . When you
1:07:24have a clear motivation , you obviously
1:07:26find the strength . If you're like , well
1:07:28, yeah , I have to learn . That's what
1:07:31people tell me the most , that they
1:07:32really don't have any intention . It's a
1:07:34pending subject , forget about it .
1:07:38Pending subjects will continue to be
1:07:41pending subjects . You really need it ,
1:07:43you really want to learn it . It has to
1:07:45be because you've been hired abroad ,
1:07:48because you have a very important trip .
1:07:51You need motivation , man . If not , it's
1:07:53too much trouble .
1:07:53Absolutely . And well , we have a
1:07:55surprise for you .
1:07:57For me . Sara , please come in here .
1:08:03Today is Pablo's birthday , so since you
1:08:07came to ...
1:08:08How great , thank you .
1:08:09Since you've come here , well , hey , we
1:08:11want to do something nice for you , so
1:08:12blow .
1:08:13But I'll blow out the candle , man . Sure
1:08:15.
1:08:18Thanks , guys .
1:08:20Anyway , we're finishing up . Now we'll
1:08:21eat later .
1:08:22Come on , if you take it now . And
1:08:24another myth that is true , you have to
1:08:27tell me that the most important thing
1:08:29in any language is to pronounce it
1:08:31correctly .
1:08:32Mm , well , I would say yes . The most
1:08:34important thing , along with reasoning ,
1:08:36okay ? They go hand in hand . Both things
1:08:37are extremely important . We've
1:08:39seen it and we've talked about it at
1:08:40length .
1:08:42100 % agree .
1:08:42Especially because of what you generate
1:08:44by pronouncing it correctly , I mean ,
1:08:45the feeling of saying , damn , this guy
1:08:46is a pilot . And above all , I believe
1:08:49that when you speak to a native speaker
1:08:50, you also convey to the person that
1:08:52you are making an effort to speak their
1:08:54language . It also makes them more
1:08:56receptive to what you want to say . It's
1:08:58a very practical example . I'm
1:09:01playing , okay ? I'm playing
1:09:03with a guy , a native speaker , an
1:09:05English speaker , an American speaker
1:09:07who says , " I'm playing . " Okay , he
1:09:09hasn't learned to pronounce Spanish , he
1:09:12says , " I'm playing . " And he's
1:09:13pronouncing it perfectly , right ? I mean
1:09:15, excuse me , he's conjugating it ,
1:09:16perfectly , but what sounds better in
1:09:18pronunciation ? I'm playing or I'm
1:09:21playing . I'm
1:09:23playing now . The native speaker talks
1:09:25to you and says , " I play now . " You
1:09:26sound
1:09:26like Yoda . Yeah , yeah , yeah ,
1:09:27of course , I sound like Yoda , but what
1:09:28effect has the pronunciation had on you
1:09:30?
1:09:30Yeah , you say , " Well , I'm trying . "
1:09:31[ __ ] , I'm playing now like that , uh ,
1:09:34perfect native speaker . I'm playing .
1:09:37The second is correct , but look how
1:09:39your professional quality , so to speak ,
1:09:42goes down , okay ? Also personal , but
1:09:44well , more on a professional level .
1:09:45Yes , absolutely
1:09:47the pronunciation , man .
1:09:49And now we say goodbye
1:09:51and we do it as always with a
1:09:53recommendation of a book that has
1:09:55taught you a lot . The first thing you
1:09:57want to recommend to the audience .
1:09:59M , I have no doubts about this . And
1:10:00being from the entrepreneurship sector ,
1:10:02I'm sure you know it . Stop being
1:10:05yourself .
1:10:06The one that changes my life .
1:10:08Absolutely . Yes , because it talks about
1:10:10this that we were discussing with
1:10:12Ángeles in another podcast where
1:10:14quantum physics really dominates the
1:10:16world . That the electrons there that
1:10:18are revolving around the atom , just
1:10:20like the planets revolve around the sun
1:10:22, but that it is a probability of
1:10:23existence . Well , that doesn't mean
1:10:26anything can happen . Everything is
1:10:28happening at once . You choose what you
1:10:29want to happen to you . And when you
1:10:32realize that , that you are the master
1:10:34of your destiny ,
1:10:37when I read that , I freaked out , man .
1:10:39Totally ,
1:10:39totally . And I would recommend a second
1:10:41one . I write , can you swear ?
1:10:43Yeah , sure .
1:10:44And Rabo , my mentor and my reference ,
1:10:47par excellence , I write to [ __ ] . The
1:10:50title has nothing to do with what's
1:10:52inside ,
1:10:52but it wasn't to make money .
1:10:53That was the first one . That
1:10:55was the first one that I've also read
1:10:56and the second one is better . Very good
1:10:58,
1:10:58very good in terms of mentality and
1:11:00sales .
1:11:01Writing persuasively and especially
1:11:03what you said , the mentality to write
1:11:05persuasively , which is almost more
1:11:07important , I mean ,
1:11:08the mentality to write is already
1:11:10persuasive in itself . So , if you write
1:11:12with the right mentality you'll be
1:11:14totally persuasive .
1:11:16And a phrase that you would also like
1:11:18to share that inspires you in your day
1:11:19to day .
1:11:20Okay , we'll do it in English , we'll
1:11:22translate it into English . I'm going to
1:11:24try to give it to you perfectly so that
1:11:25it's a literal translation . Okay ,
1:11:27Albert Einstein or Einstein , if you
1:11:28pronounce it into your hand . Einstein .
1:11:30Okay ,
1:11:30come on .
1:11:31I think it was him . If anyone tells you
1:11:33otherwise , well ,
1:11:33let me know in the comments .
1:11:34He says , " If you can't explain it
1:11:38simply or just up to there . How would
1:11:41that be in English ?
1:11:42If you can't explain it
1:11:45simply . Perfect . If you can't explain
1:11:48it simply ,
1:11:48teacher . That's it . But you've seen the
1:11:50literal translation , right ? I mean , it
1:11:51seems like a lie , but this is not
1:11:52teaching English , it's teaching Spanish
1:11:54. If you can't explain something simply
1:12:01, you don't understand it well enough .
1:12:05Okay . Well enough . You don't understand
1:12:08it . You don't understand well enough .
1:12:11You don't understand it . You don't
1:12:13understand it . The whole sentence . You
1:12:16can't explain it . If you can't explain
1:12:19it simply , simply . That's it . Let it
1:12:21out . In English , the air comes out
1:12:23simply . You don't understand it .
1:12:26You don't understand it enough . You
1:12:28don't understand it . Well enough .
1:12:33C1 . Yeah , kid .
1:12:34Very good . C1 C2 . And the better you
1:12:36pronounce it , the better your
1:12:37pronunciation is . Instead of saying
1:12:39IU .
1:12:40Yes , yes , yes . You automatically move
1:12:42on from here because you're already
1:12:43awesome here . that you are above 99.9 %
1:12:46of people .
1:12:48Awesome , man .
1:12:49And finally , who do you invite to come
1:12:52and have a coffee with a story here on
1:12:54the podcast ? You know that the
1:12:56requirement we set is that they really
1:12:58have an inspiring story to tell .
1:13:00Inspiring to tell .
1:13:01What is this about ? Well , look , I would
1:13:02invite Irra Bravo , who I met the other
1:13:04day , but we don't trust each other
1:13:05enough and he says that selling and
1:13:07living are the same thing . I invite my
1:13:10colleague Alfonso and my colleague
1:13:12Cristian here to come and give you a
1:13:15good talk about how to sell honestly in
1:13:18this life .
1:13:19Well , Irra , Alfonso and Cristian ,
1:13:22triple invitation , huh ? Well , we're
1:13:24delighted that you come here sometime
1:13:26to have a coffee with a story .
1:13:27Well , Pablito , man , thank you very much
1:13:29for coming on your birthday , also , it
1:13:30was
1:13:30a pleasure , kid . Yeah , yeah , you took
1:13:32away my family's meal , man . I hope he
1:13:34pays . We'll close
1:13:35later , we'll close later .
1:13:36I hope that pays well .
1:13:37Thanks a lot , man .
1:13:39Thanks , kid .