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Week 3 Matchups + Packers in Peril, Wheel of Shame! | Fantasy Football 2026 - Ep. 1980

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Intro

0:06Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers

0:08podcast with your hosts Andy Holloway,

0:12Jason Moore, and Mike Wright.

0:23Welcome in

0:31I really wanted to hit you with a it's

0:33garbage time.

0:37We did have some of that Friday,

0:39September 18th, the Fantasy Footballers

0:41podcast. Mike the Fantasy Hitman, Jason

0:42Moore, Andy Holloway back with you.

0:48Great show for you today. Jumping back

0:50into the fantasy forecast, more

0:52matchups. We've got the Wheel of Shame.

0:54We've got our fantasy faceoff. We have

0:57news. Injuries,

0:59Footland Friday,

TNF recap

1:02Packer panic in the streets.

1:06>> 35 to 14. What a difference a not Cooper

1:08Rush makes.

1:09>> Yeah. I mean, we we had talked about

1:11that like you cannot you can't say that

1:14Drake London is bad or um you know that

1:17the Falcons are what we saw those first

1:20two weeks. Um also the Packers are very

1:23bad. I mean, let's go to let's go to

1:25resident Packer fans.

1:26>> Jar, how you do?

1:28>> Oh,

1:28>> wait a minute.

1:29>> He's doing he's doing an impression.

1:31>> Where is he?

1:33>> Well, Papa Josh is the filling. He's

1:35fake crying.

1:35>> Al isn't even here. He um I think he's

1:38taking a day for it's a mental health

1:40day for him.

1:40>> He did have he had a note in our Slack

1:44channel last night because he had to go

1:46watch performance.

1:48>> He lives and breathes the Packers.

1:49>> Yes, he he is a diehard Packers fan. Um,

1:52and he said, "Fortunately, I couldn't

1:53watch the game. Probably saved my life."

1:57>> Well, I mean, I'll tell you who, you

1:59know, Jordan Love's not long for the NFL

2:02with the way the offensive line is

2:03playing. He's been sacked more than

2:04anybody through three games,

2:06>> and a lot of them are like comically

2:09ragdoll type of sacks.

2:11>> I mean, you look at this game and then

2:12you're like, Jordan Love attempted 53

2:15passes, more than double the amount of

2:18passes Michael Penn Jr. had. Oh. Oh, but

2:22that's cuz the running backs combined

2:24for 17 yards on or sorry, that's not

2:27even right, 16 yards. No, 17 yards on

2:31eight carries.

2:31>> Yeah,

2:32>> Marshon Lloyd, Caleb Johnson. I mean,

2:35the offensive line is uh making its

2:38impact across the board.

2:39>> The uh the soothsayers out there calling

2:42for the Caleb Johnson breakout game.

2:46Nope. Nope. Uh

2:48>> the Tucker Craft breakout game.

2:50>> Hey. Nope. Nope. But don't worry, Sky

2:52Moore got seven targets.

2:53>> Tucker Tucker Craft the epitome of

2:58fantasy football here of game

3:00environment ended up sensational.

3:02>> 53 pass attempts.

3:03>> Opportunity for Tucker Craft.

3:06>> Eight targets. Your tight end got eight

3:09targets.

3:10>> Oh, that's very exciting. Except he

3:13caught uh what?

3:14>> Four of them.

3:15>> Four of them for how many yards?

3:16>> 26. And one of the catches, Mike, was

3:20one of the grossest passes I've ever

3:21seen thrown. It was a basically lateral.

3:24>> That one That one didn't count as a

3:26pass, did it?

3:27>> I I That was a backwards pass.

3:28>> That counted That's not a rush attempt.

3:30He'd be in rush attempts. He caught the

3:31ball. It was one of his four catches.

3:34>> That is generous.

3:35>> Ball that went flying sideways. He

3:37caught it. He dropped two passes, which

3:39by the way, he only dropped three.

3:41>> The three is the most he's dropped in a

3:42year.

3:43>> Mhm.

3:43>> And he dropped two last night.

3:44>> Yeah. He He's not

3:45>> not He's not back. He's not back to full

3:47strength. I mean, this is in the

3:48offseason. I was saying he was kind of

3:50off my board at ADP because I don't want

3:51the slow start. However, I fully expect

3:54Craft to be awesome this year. Like, he

3:56is very involved. He's very good. He's

3:58just he's working his way back uh, you

4:00know, to full health, full strength, and

4:02they've got to figure out this offensive

4:03line.

4:04>> Can Michael Parsons play right tackle?

4:05>> Uh, I'm sure he can. I'm sure he can.

4:08>> I bet if that on the list of things he

4:09could figure out. How about 194 yards

4:12rushing by Bejian and 194 yards

4:14receiving by Drake London.

4:16>> Baby, it is more than five yards from

4:19Kyle Pittz. They hogged them all.

4:21>> I mean,

4:22>> Kyle Pittz won for five. Still winning

4:24that trade, boys.

4:25>> Epic tight end failure.

4:27>> Uh, but

4:29I mean, there was so much fantasy

4:32goodness in this one. Those the Falcons

4:34guys, Matthew Golden 101, delightful.

4:38Christian Watson, my guy. A little bit

4:42maybe maybe some stinky. I don't care.

4:44We got 96 and a touchdown out of

4:47Christian Watson. So overall, I mean,

4:50Tucker Craft getting the eight targets

4:52and doing nothing. Major major

4:54disappointment, but

4:55>> it couldn't be more overall pretty good

4:57for fantasy.

4:58>> Couldn't be more over from Marshon

5:00Lloyd.

5:01>> It Yeah, I mean, he's

5:04>> he's not that good. And I wonder, you

5:06know, I've been saying

5:07>> Yeah, I know what you're gonna say.

5:08>> I've been saying Josh Jacobs. They need

5:10They need Josh Jacobs desperately.

5:12Here's the truth.

5:13>> They need a running game desperately.

5:16The last time we have seen Josh Jacobs

5:18with this team, they had a great running

5:20game. So, I keep saying they just need

5:22Josh Jacobs back and they and they

5:24really do. They need a a running back

5:26that can get it done. The question is,

5:29can Josh Jacobs get it done with this

5:30offensive line? because right now

5:33they've got some big issues to figure

5:36out.

5:36>> Yeah, this was uh this was a nightmare

5:39for I mean you were very lucky that that

5:41Golden and Watson if you had them you

5:43got the big games considering how bad

5:45everything else went for the Packers.

5:47>> You know Jordan Love garbage time to his

5:49>> Jordan Love 300 yards two touchdowns

5:52you're okay

5:52>> that's fine

5:53>> and I don't really lay a lot at the feet

5:55of Jordan Love. I mean it's just it's a

5:56discombobulated offense through and

5:58through. They're not doing anything

5:59well.

5:59>> They should be 0 and three. They should

6:01be 0 and three. They they they were very

6:03fortunate to come back and win against

6:05the Jets. And

6:06>> yeah, it's Friday.

Footclan Friday

6:12>> Foot clan Friday.

6:18>> Every week on Friday, we give a $100

6:20away via gift card to uh one of our

6:23supporters.

6:25And uh if you're over at

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6:31Pants.

6:36>> Sure, why not?

6:37>> Sure. Yeah. Bamy Pants with the with the

6:40dub. That's cool. Sometimes I feel like

6:43they're just I know we randomly choose

6:45winners, but sometimes I feel like you

6:46don't randomly choose them. You just

6:48give me something funny to say.

6:49>> Our our people are funny.

6:51>> They are. Uh let's talk news.

NFL News

6:55News and notes from around the league.

7:00>> Commander general manager Adam Peters

7:02said the team is optimistic about Jaden

7:03Daniels returning in 2026. As of right

7:05now, surgery and IR are not on the table

7:08>> as of right now.

7:10>> Now, I heard one report saying he might

7:13miss as as few as one game. Um, TBD, but

7:18we were saying we were waiting for some

7:20news here. Looks like uh they're trying

7:23to get him back as soon as possible.

7:26>> All right. Well, look, DJ Moore

7:27downgraded to a DMP on Thursday. Keon

7:30Coleman still out. This is not a great

7:33situation. You don't want to go

7:34backwards in terms of designations

7:36during the week. So maybe DJ Moore is

7:38going to miss another week. They take on

7:40the Chargers at home. Keon Coleman would

7:43have been a nice, hey, give him a shot.

7:45But the truth is,

7:47>> you probably could do worse than Khalil

7:48Shakir this week. Khalil Shakir is

7:51>> a PPR option

7:52>> and Daltton Concincaid continues to look

7:54like uh one of the steels of the draft.

7:57>> Nico Collins did not practice not

7:59practicing today or Thursday. Jaylen

8:01Coker, he had been downgraded to a DMP.

8:04>> That was weird.

8:05>> But were was seen at practice today.

8:08>> Yeah. And it was said that he looked

8:10good at practice today. So I think Coker

8:11should be fine. Uh Xavier Legette was

8:15also back, right?

8:16>> Yes. So there you go. Caleb Douglas will

8:20not play this week for the Dolphins. The

8:22one receiver that looked like he had

8:23anything going.

8:24>> He's going to miss some time.

8:24>> Chris Bell expected to play this week.

8:26Okay.

8:27>> Adnai Mitchell, who got a lot of

8:29attention on yesterday's show, showed up

8:30on the injury report with a fingy

8:32injury.

8:33>> Oh no, my fingy got caught in a jersey.

8:36>> I haven't.

8:37>> They said there's some concern over the

8:38injury and he will be limited.

8:40>> I hate that. That sounds so nonsense,

8:43but it's like,

8:44>> okay, imagine you got your finger stuck

8:46>> in someone's jersey and then it just

8:48like dislocated or something. Us

8:51mortals, we would be out. We'd call out

8:54of work for two weeks.

8:55>> Yeah. Didn't I break your like half

8:57break your thumb, throw you a football,

8:58and you were done for the year?

8:59>> Yeah, I was out.

9:00>> You were out.

9:01>> I do think fingers are pretty important

9:03for wide receivers to catch the ball.

9:04>> I'm just saying we we we joke about it.

9:06We were like, but that that's not great.

9:08There's concern he may not be able to

9:10play. So

9:10>> just more targets for Gar Wilson.

9:14>> Yeah.

9:14>> Taj Spears did not practice. Tony Pard

9:16returned to practice. Rico Dout did not

9:18practice. Sam Darnold was upgraded to a

9:20full practice for the Seahawks.

9:22>> All right.

9:23>> And then uh we do have injuries to catch

9:25you up on. We'll we'll handle them and

9:27tackle them during the forecast. So

9:30let's jump right in.

Fantasy Forecast

9:35Fantasy Forecast presented by Prize

9:37Picks.

9:41Yesterday we covered the Chargers,

9:42Bills, Panthers, Browns, Jets, Lions,

9:44Texans, Colts, Chiefs, Dolphins, Titans,

9:46Giants, Bengals, Steelers, Seahawks,

9:48Commanders.

9:50So, if you want to hear those, you can

9:52listen to yesterday's episode. We got

9:53seven more matchups to talk through.

9:54Starting with the New England Patriots

Patriots at Jaguars

9:57back to one and one, taking on the

9:59one-on-one Jacksonville Jaguars.

10:01This game's in Jacksonville, the Vegas

10:03line. Jacksonville minus three. The

10:05overunderers 45 and a half.

10:08>> Yeah, I don't know what you guys did

10:09with your little uh like the pool picks

10:11here in the office.

10:12>> This one was a this one was a troubling,

10:15difficult one for me.

10:16>> The first thing I did was look at the uh

10:17the Atlanta Falcons versus the Green Bay

10:19Packers. And I was like,

10:21>> come on. Come on. 13 straight home

10:24openers. Come on.

10:27I was like,

10:28>> that's how many they had won?

10:29>> Yeah.

10:29>> Oh, I didn't know that. And I was like,

10:31Atlanta, there's no way. I'm like,

10:32they're going to screw this up, but I'm

10:33going to pick the Packers anyways. So,

10:35that's how I've started.

10:36>> Uh, yeah. Well, look, this game, this

10:39one's interesting to me. Um, New

10:42England's defense got it together last

10:43week. Drake May has not been a fantasy

10:45force thus far. Trevor Lawrence slowed

10:47down by Denver last week. How do you

10:49feel about the two ball throwers in this

10:52one,

10:54>> man? I about Trevor Lawrence.

10:55>> Yes, that's exactly what I was just

10:56going to say. Even though it's a tougher

10:58matchup,

10:58>> I would prefer to play Trevor Lawrence

11:00over Drake May. We we just haven't seen

11:02much good from Drake May since he lost

11:06his wide receivers. I mean, that's

11:08that's a a difficult thing to try to do

11:11when you're you know, you you lost Digs,

11:13you lost Booty, and then you replaced

11:15him with AJ Brown, who you lost.

11:18Drake May is still a very good uh

11:20quarterback. I I looked at his uh prize

11:24picks projection and almost went with it

11:26because it, you know, to me it was like

11:28against Jacksonville, you should do it.

11:30>> What is it?

11:31>> Um I'll I'll look it up real quick. That

11:33was this morning when I was looking

11:34last,

11:35>> right?

11:35>> What how nasty

11:38are you willing to get with the

11:39quarterback position versus Drake May?

11:41Like are we saying Gino Smith against

11:44the Detroit Lions?

11:46>> Man, that is that is nasty.

11:48>> Kyler Murray against the Tampa Bay

11:50Buccaneers. Kyler is interesting to me.

11:53Um I I currently have Gino's projected

11:56head.

11:56>> There's no way I would try Kyler out.

11:58The only the only plays we saw from

11:59Kyler were garbage. Then he got hurt.

12:03>> Okay. So you're not going What about

12:04Gino?

12:05>> I I don't I don't think I I would I

12:07think I'd stick with Drake May.

12:09>> I would as well. The players

12:11>> 216 and a half passing. players that I

12:13would play over May would be kind of

12:14those those love affairs we've talked

12:16about recently, Shock and Bryce Young

12:18that where it's like you might have

12:19picked them up off of waiverss still be

12:22rostering Drake May.

12:23>> Brock Pery for sure.

12:24>> Oh, Brock Party for sure. What about

12:26Stafford against Denver,

12:28>> man?

12:30Is it Is it in Denver?

12:31>> No, I play May.

12:34>> Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna play.

12:36>> Oh, man.

12:36>> Trayvo and Raandre.

12:39Last week, Raandre had the fumble, so he

12:42saw his snaps cut down to 36%. Tvo had

12:44the big play, but was held in check

12:47outside of that. Um, which of the two

12:50would you rather start this week, Mike?

12:54Dude, it's impossible.

12:56It was It would have been Raandre last

12:58week, but he fumbled. This is

13:01this is part of the it's just a huge

13:03problem of you you don't know when it

13:05will actually be Tvon Henderson at least

13:07for now with the the the current

13:09information.

13:10>> You know what's tough?

13:11>> I guess I would play Raandre.

13:12>> So Trayvon had 60% of snaps last week.

13:14How many targets do you think he had?

13:16>> Not enough.

13:17>> Well, zero is not enough. Zero targets,

13:19zero receptions. That's the part of of

13:22like how do you put Trayvon in a

13:24position where he can succeed? You know,

13:27you know, you you he's the only one that

13:29can give you a special run, but he had

13:3016 carries last week.

13:33>> How do you not give him a couple of

13:35screens

13:36when you don't have wide receivers?

13:38>> I think they will. I think they'll get

13:39him more and more involved. This was

13:40his, you know, his first game back and

13:43they were up by so much in that game

13:45where,

13:46>> you know, I think it would have been

13:47different if it was uh, you know, a

13:50different game script. Um, I did look up

13:53the the Drake May projection here. Uh,

13:57216 and a half on the

13:59>> passing yards. Yeah. I have him

14:00projected for around 250. And I'm like,

14:03>> oh man, how that's it's so tempting, but

14:06at the same time,

14:07>> he just has no one to throw the ball to

14:09because they won't put TO in the slot.

14:11>> Bashalt Tutin seems like he's the dude.

14:13Did you see in our league of record

14:14Chris Rodriguez got dumped this morning?

14:16Like the decision has been made. six

14:19opportunities in each of the last two

14:22weeks.

14:23>> Parker Washington seems like the dude.

14:25Are you starting another wide receiver,

14:26Jason, for Jacksonville?

14:27>> Um, I will say that I think a sneaky

14:30start is Brian Thomas Jr. in this

14:32matchup. Um, you know, when you've got a

14:35superstar corner, uh, which the Patriots

14:39do have, I I don't know necessarily that

14:41they will use him in shadow coverage,

14:42but oftent times that lets a quality

14:45wide receiver too shine. So, this is a

14:47matchup where um you know, last year you

14:50could throw on the

14:51>> calling him a quality wide receiver,

14:52too.

14:52>> Yeah, I I think Brian Thomas Jr. is a

14:54quality wide receiver, too.

14:56>> You you disagree?

14:58>> He's been real bad, man. Like, he got

15:00eight targets last week. He got three of

15:02them for 40 yards.

15:03>> Oh, man. That sounds like metaf.

15:06>> Okay. Anytime anytime a receiver catches

15:08a low percentage of their targets,

15:10that's calling that's calling in a

15:12metaf.

15:13>> If we're And so, if we want to do that

15:15algebra, the way I feel about DK Metaf,

15:18>> I'm I'm kind of more on Jason's side

15:19with this one. I I think that BTJ might

15:21be a little bit sneaky here. It's a 45

15:24and a half point overunder. I don't know

15:26where Christian Rodriguez is going to

15:28end up, you know, lining up. It might be

15:31on the outside. It might be on BTJ more

15:33than the guy that they move around the

15:34formation a lot in Parker, but I I

15:37wouldn't be surprised if uh if he saw

15:40eight targets. Again, I'm not messing

15:42around with Patriots wide outs. I don't

15:43know how to predict that right now. Dos

15:45and Matt Collins and Douglas and Hunter

15:47Henry.

15:48>> Um it would be Dobs, I guess, if there

15:51was one to choose. Last week, bounced

15:52back for three catches, 96 yards.

15:55>> Yeah, only four targets. The snaps still

15:57remain low, but his his a dot is

16:00>> like he's got if he comes down with one,

16:02he's it's going to be a big one.

16:03>> What's his a dog? Does he have it in

16:05him?

16:06>> I think Romeo do says dog.

16:09>> I feel like if he did, you would have

16:10called him Romeo dog.

16:14>> No,

16:14>> I don't know.

16:15>> At least dogs.

16:17>> Arizona 101, San Francisco 2 and 0.

16:19Vegas line here. San Francisco minus 8

16:21and a half over under 47 and a half. I

Cardinals at 49ers

16:24I'm so excited because I almost brought

16:25it up a minute ago because you were

16:27talking about different quarterbacks

16:28with Drake May and I was going to say

16:29obviously Brock Pery, right? I think I

16:31did say that. Yes. But I wanted to bring

16:33up the fact that you talk about perfect

16:34storms forming.

16:36>> Oh man,

16:37>> you we talked about Carolina and and

16:38Bryce Young and the fact that

16:41>> the substation is taking names. Six

16:44defensive linemen in two weeks have gone

16:46down for the 49ers. The latest news this

16:49morning, we don't report a lot of

16:51defensive news, right?

16:52>> But

16:53>> Nick Bosa

16:55>> injured, multiple week absence, could be

16:57longer. The 49ers are being their

17:01defense is being stripped bare. I mean,

17:04their offense is well, but they're

17:05getting to the point now where you're

17:07like, you know, could you see Arizona

17:09putting up points in San Francisco? I

17:12don't know. I I it seems 50/50 with

17:14Brassette and whether the offense works

17:16week to week, but not having Nick Bosa,

17:19not having the pass rush we saw from

17:21Seattle last week,

17:22>> certainly better for the Cardinals.

17:24>> I mean, you you're just getting to the

17:25point where like San Francisco and Brock

17:26Party, like Brock Party is looking more

17:28like

17:30>> the long-term every week answer at

17:32quarterback for fantasy football

17:34players.

17:34>> Brock Pury is he's a plugandplay to me

17:37at this point. Uh I don't I don't see

17:40any reason to move off. Would you rather

17:41have him or Shuck rest the season locked

17:43into your lineup?

17:44>> Brock Py Brock because I know like every

17:47again everything with Chuck is just it's

17:48a brewing excitement. It's a what could

17:52be rock that Brock Perie is

17:54>> the guy like Brock Perie is is so

17:56fantastic of he is like a one of one

18:00that his touchdown rate Jason you

18:02brought it up yesterday I think of he's

18:04just he throws his touchdown percentage

18:06is it's over seven and you go yeah

18:09that's not regressing that's just who

18:11Brock Perie is at this point uh for the

18:13Cardinals

18:15I don't think they they mentioned that

18:18Jacobe Brassette got hurt or was dealing

18:21with something in the game. They didn't

18:22say anything specific cuz I don't

18:24remember. And he looked awful.

18:26>> Yeah, he I think he was dealing with the

18:27pass rush. That was the biggest thing.

18:29>> I feel like something was wrong.

18:30>> I think they talked about his quad.

18:32>> I thought it was a quad issue, which I

18:33haven't seen anything about it, but I

18:36think that that should be a like that's

18:39a concern of McBride is in. Absolutely.

18:44And then after that, I mean, are you

18:47what are you doing with So Jeremiah

18:48Love,

18:49>> we're still frustrated there. I mean,

18:51this is this is the issue with a rookie

18:54who is highly drafted in fantasy when

18:56you take him at that two-3 turn at the

18:59beginning of the year because we're

19:00still seeing like last week Tyler Algier

19:02was 64% of snaps and you know, Love is

19:06not getting enough of the work. I fully

19:08expect that to change as the season goes

19:10on. Love will usurp him and take over

19:13and become the leader. He freaking

19:16better if you spin a top five

19:17>> pick. I mean it was Seattle. It was

19:19Seattle last week. I mean that and he's

19:21coming back from a high ankle sprain. I

19:23was going to ask the question is he a

19:24buy low cuz to me he's a huge buy low

19:26opportunity.

19:26>> He's he definitely should be. And just

19:28for some context of of where the market

19:30feels about Jeremiah Love the price

19:32picks projection for McAffrey for yards

19:36from scrimmage. So rush receiving just

19:38under a 100 yards. that yeah McAffrey

19:42Jeremiah Love's down to 58 and a half

19:44for a combined rushing and receiving.

19:47>> Yeah, you're going to have to call your

19:48shot as to which week he takes over the

19:51job or at least usurps him to become the

19:53leader of the job. I think it could be

19:55this week uh with the hurting defensive

19:57line, the divisional game, and now we're

20:00three weeks removed uh from that ankle

20:02injury. It it could be now. Do we you do

20:05we I we're two weeks in. And it's hard

20:07to make real assessments like that. Do

20:11you think Tyler Algier's just going to

20:12go away?

20:14>> No, I don't think Tyler Algier's ever

20:15going to go away enough to a point where

20:17Jeremiah Love can like

20:19>> I think that

20:19>> Or is he or is Jeremiah Love going to

20:21Does it going to feel like uh Jarian

20:23Price at the end of the year?

20:24>> No, I I don't think so. I think that um

20:27Algier will never go away. He will be

20:30involved and unfortunately he'll

20:32probably be involved near the goal line.

20:35However, I I I expect that Jeremiah Love

20:38will get to 60% of the opportunities,

20:42the work, and that I think will be

20:43enough.

20:43>> Like Bejan and Tyler Algier.

20:45>> Exactly. Right. And Bejon got off to a

20:48slow start his rookie year, but what was

20:49still very good by the end for fantasy.

20:52That's

20:52>> and and we haven't had that kind of

20:54iconic Jeremiah Love play yet. We're

20:56going to have one or two or 10 like he's

20:59going to have the breakaway run, the the

21:00Bejian type of run. So I I do think it's

21:02a bo opportunity. You're not, you know,

21:06you can't go in with absolute confidence

21:08right now, which is why it's a boow

21:10opportunity. Somebody might be willing

21:11to give him up for, you know, let me

21:14just give you a hypothetical. Chuba has

21:16a big week this week. Jeremiah Love

21:17stays sub 40% snaps.

21:21>> You know, I I think that's when you

21:22start to you're three weeks in. Somebody

21:24might decide Jeremiah Love's not

21:26happening and that Chuba is. Just

21:28something to bring up. If you have three

21:29straight top 12 weeks from Chuba,

21:32>> I'd still be willing to trade him away

21:33for Jeremiah Love.

21:34>> Okay.

21:34>> Oh, yeah. I I would as well. Also,

21:37update on the Brassette. He's been a

21:39full participant uh Wednesday and

21:41Thursday of practice, but he is listed

21:42on the injury report with a hip injury.

21:44>> Okay.

21:46>> Debo is in start of the week.

21:48>> Your your start of the week. He's he's

21:51the last man standing. And then George

21:53KD, the snaps still aren't there, but

21:55four for 80 and a touchdown last week.

21:57>> Yeah. Really? I'd take the production

22:00>> of KD over these snaps of of freaking

22:02Tucker Craft right now. Like I'm I'm

22:04going these guys came back from ACL's.

22:07They're doing more.

22:08>> KD was KD was Achilles.

22:09>> Sorry. They're doing more with less. You

22:11know what I mean? Like KD he comes in.

22:12They're like, "Hey, we're going to go to

22:14you."

22:15>> Yeah.

22:16>> I don't know.

22:16>> KD's awesome.

22:18>> Mike Evans, you are on uh injury watch.

22:20He did not practice on Thursday. He is a

22:23veteran. He's the type of guy that might

22:24not practice a lot and still play.

22:28Is he in?

22:29>> I I think so. I think if he is I think

22:33if he's active, I'm going to have him

22:34in.

22:35>> Josh DS or Mike Evans.

22:39>> I'd go Mike Evans.

22:40>> If Mike Evans plays, I would play him.

22:44>> But that's that's tough. And when legit

22:48when is management, you know, the

22:50substation is just like it feels like a

22:52fun bit that we do on Twitter.

22:55At some point, at some point they act

22:58they have to actually take it serious,

22:59right? I mean, I don't think it's

23:01actually the substation. I think it's

23:02the way that they train, the way that

23:04their medical staff brings players back,

23:06the time. Like, there's there is

23:07something going on for sure. They've

23:10literally been the leader in in starter

23:12injuries for like six consecutive years,

23:16>> but they've changed staffs over that

23:17time. That was one of the big headlines

23:18a few years ago.

23:20>> I mean, maybe it's Shanahan and you're

23:22not going to change it. He forces people

23:23to get back. I don't I don't know.

23:25>> You're playing any Cardinal white outs

23:26in this game?

23:27>> No.

23:28>> So, play Trey McBride?

23:29>> Yep.

23:30>> Okay, we'll take a break. We'll get into

23:32some more matchups.

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Vikings at Bucs

24:43The Minnesota Vikings at 2 and 0 taking

24:46on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers at 0 and2.

24:49Vegas line Minnesota minus one and a

24:51half on the road. Overunders just 42 and

24:52a half in this game.

24:55It's been overcoming adversity for

24:58Minnesota versus creating adversity for

25:02Baker Mayfield and the offense in Tampa

25:05Bay.

25:05>> A problem of my own design.

25:07>> And yet Tampa is favored in this game.

25:09>> The old consequences of my own actions.

25:11It's just this is one of those games

25:13where if Tampa wins it,

25:16it's it's a nightmare for Minnesota

25:18because it means that Kyler Murray came

25:20out there, didn't win the ball game, and

25:23Carson Wentz got them two dubs, and I

25:26just think that that's not a great story

25:29for Minnesota.

25:30>> That would be awful. The first thing

25:31that went through my head when I saw the

25:33spread, cuz honestly, I think the

25:35Vikings should be favored by more than a

25:37point and a half. Uh the their defense

25:40has been outrageously good and the

25:41Buccaneers do not look like they have it

25:43together. They they have lost a lot of

25:45games here since the second half of last

25:47year. I mean they they were

25:48>> they got Watson another start.

25:51>> They got who?

25:51>> The Buccaneers were so bad that Deshun

25:54Watson will still be starting for the

25:55Cleveland Browns.

25:55>> Yes. Exactly. And so, uh, when I saw

25:58that line, I was like, is this just like

26:01Kyler Murray? Like, it's like a hedge

26:04against Kyler just being terrible

26:06because I just don't see how the

26:08Buccaneers win this outside of Kyler

26:10being terrible.

26:10>> Well, I I I could see it. I mean, I the

26:13the low overunder, they seem to be

26:16angling towards a close defensive minded

26:19game. I wouldn't say any of us have been

26:21like super impressed with the Minnesota

26:23offense in the last two weeks. They've

26:25gotten some stuff done, but I mean

26:26>> they're they're part of the bears though

26:28of the like week one their offense in

26:31the second half was awesome and week two

26:32you have to throw it in the garbage

26:34>> because of the storm.

26:36>> Yeah. I mean it's it still was Carson

26:39Wentz and we haven't seen Kyler. So I I

26:41you know we're not playing Addison,

26:42we're not playing Hawinson. We might not

26:44be playing a running back on this team

26:46this week. That's another factor, right?

26:47Like if Aaron Jones, he is limited and

26:49he's he's supposed to be back, but that

26:52is a factor in the way that this offense

26:53is going to be able to function if it's,

26:56you know,

26:57>> that could be a bigger portion of the

26:59why this they're the favor.

27:00>> I think I misspoke and said Tampa was

27:02favored by one and a half. By the way,

27:04Jason, you corrected me. Minnesota minus

27:06one and a half, but it's close. The

27:08Ibuka situation, he is at price picks

27:11has him at 48 and a half receiving

27:13yards. He's only got a 17% target share

27:16on the year.

27:17Where are you? What's the head space for

27:19AMC Ibuka? Is he a buy low? Is he a I'm

27:22scared after the second half of last

27:23year? Is this a Baker needs to prove it

27:26before I believe? What What is the

27:27situation there? Uh I am very concerned

27:31about it about how they are spreading

27:32the ball around. I just wanted to double

27:34check. So yeah, so 17 18% for a Mecca

27:39>> as far as target share.

27:40>> Target share.

27:40>> Disgusting.

27:41>> You know who's got 17% target share in

27:43that offense?

27:44>> Kate Uton.

27:45>> It's me. Yeah,

27:47>> Ted Hurst.

27:48>> 70%.

27:49>> Oh my gosh.

27:50>> If only we could fly.

27:53>> Like they can't fly.

27:54>> That's why I'm concerned.

27:56>> No, that I mean

27:56>> is Ted Hurst out here. Ted Fred Durst

27:59Hurst pulling in a 17% target share out

28:02the gate.

28:03>> Is he Is he Ted Fred Durst Hurst or is

28:05he

28:05>> I don't know. Is he Fred Hurst?

28:07>> I don't know.

28:10>> Um so is that you're afraid?

28:13>> I am. I'm very I'm very concerned that

28:15that he is not

28:17>> it's like uh

28:18>> he is not him.

28:20>> I don't I don't know about that but I

28:21the don't hear what I'm not saying but

28:23it's like Marv is not commanding targets

28:26for Arizona

28:29is clearly not commanding targets from

28:32Baker and the way that we feel like he

28:36should be as a first run talent as he

28:38should he should clearly be the number

28:40one and he is not being treated like it.

28:42>> Yeah. And and honestly,

28:45he got off to such a strong start as a

28:48rookie that I think we forgot who he

28:51was. He was one of my favorite prospects

28:53as a wide receiver because what I saw

28:55was just a phenomenal wide receiver. But

28:58also, you know, for fantasy purposes, I

29:01didn't think he had a super high

29:02ceiling. He wasn't my wide receiver one

29:04for the rookies. When we were talking

29:06about him pre-NFL draft, I was like, he

29:08is a perfect wide receiver. great route

29:10runner, good hands, does everything you

29:12want, but he's not the kind of like

29:14neighborsesque explosive athlete that's

29:16going to take over in fantasy, have

29:17these incredible deep touchdowns, you

29:20know, left, right, and center. He to me

29:22is like the perfect NFL wide receiver,

29:24too. And he seemed like he was to start

29:26last year when they had Mike Evans and

29:28all that. He hasn't scored 10 fantasy

29:31points since week 10 last year. I mean,

29:33that is a lot of games in a row where I

29:36think you might just have to adjust your

29:37expectations and say he's not a fantasy

29:42star.

29:42>> You said since week 10

29:44>> of last year. Yeah.

29:45>> Yeah. They're they're they're two and

29:46nine in those games. Do you going back

29:49to week 10 of last year? They have been

29:51>> which is 10 games.

29:52>> They have been a terrible football team.

29:54>> Where do we want do you feel like the

29:56blame is Baker Mayfield or Ibuka? I I

30:02think it's been a m I I it's pretty much

30:04what it's been since week 10, which is

30:08Baker was hurt, Iuku was hurt last year.

30:11This year, Baker is a nightmare so far.

30:14He cannot connect down the field.

30:15>> He's 30th in EPA per play among

30:17quarterbacks.

30:18>> Every every downfield ball, he's

30:19overthrowing people. I mean, you talked

30:21about Ted Hurst target share. Where's

30:23Where's the big plays?

30:24>> There aren't any big plays. It's not

30:26Hurst's fault. He he's been around the

30:28ball. it. To me, this is you've got to

30:31start giving Bucky Irving even more

30:33work. You need to pick your spots and

30:36give some easier completions to Baker

30:38Mayfield. It should be a Bua.

30:39>> They were like, "Bucky's been on a We

30:42got him on a snap count right now."

30:44>> Bull crap.

30:46>> 15 opportunities, 21 opportunities. What

30:48are they going to do? What's going to

30:50happen?

30:51>> They're just counting his snaps.

30:53>> Um, no, I I love it. I mean, obviously

30:55Bucky has been um a a good pick so far,

30:59very involved. And I think that the

31:00worries of this is going to be a 5050

31:04time share with Kenny Gainwell that they

31:05brought in is that's already been

31:07answered. That's that's not the case. Um

31:09but against this Minnesota Vikings

31:11defense, I'm not I'm not excited for

31:13anybody. I'm certainly I'm not excited

31:14for Bucky either. He's Am I starting

31:16him? Yeah, he's going to get the

31:17opportunities. You're hoping for a

31:18touchdown somewhere.

31:19>> Probably a bad game. I'm not starting

31:21Baker. Honestly, I think IA is is a

31:23player that if you have other good

31:24options, um I would

31:26>> IA or DS. Downs is now the the the

31:30measuring stick for the week.

31:31>> All right, let me actually look at that

31:33one.

31:33>> By the way, I rookie

31:35>> is one spot ahead of IUA for me

31:37>> outside the last three games of last

31:38year. He's 24% target share as a rookie.

31:40He had games at 30 35% target share. The

31:42fact he's at 17%. He did that one time

31:44in his first 14 games and now he's done

31:47it through two games, it it is

31:49problematic.

31:51They seem like a team that maybe the I

31:53don't know who the leading candidate for

31:54a mid-season firing is. To me, it's Todd

31:56Bulls.

31:57>> Yeah, he's

31:58>> Yeah, he's got to be up there. I I think

31:59I would still play Ibuka over DS just

32:01because DS has an equally bad matchup

32:03against Houston.

32:05>> He's he'll be fine.

32:06>> Hopefully. Josh, I hope so. But there's

32:08plenty of players, you know, the Jaylen

32:10Coker tier, Jameson Williams, who's been

32:12bad. Those type of players I would I

32:13would be playing over IUA.

32:15>> Let's go to Rio. Baltimore, Dallas.

32:20We're in Brazil. Bonjour.

32:23>> Baltimore minus three and a half. Over

32:24under 53 and a half.

32:27>> Both teams are one and one, right?

32:29>> Both teams I believe are one and one. Th

32:32This is uh Z Flowers is traveling uh

32:35with the team, but he has not practiced

32:37yet. So him traveling

32:40I thought it was very strange of like

32:42how do you if he's not he hasn't

32:45practiced yet on track to not play went

32:48down to Brazil.

32:50>> Then I saw a video of uh one of the

32:54Ravens players posted it and they're in

32:56this like fancy hotel pool.

32:58>> That might be why he went

32:59>> and I was like that's why he went.

33:00>> Oh okay.

33:01>> I'm not missing out on my trip to

33:02Brazil. I got this passport for a

33:04reason.

33:04>> Yeah. Okay. I guess they're human

33:06beings. and maybe he just was like

33:08Brazil.

33:09>> So, we we have some news. Uh Ronnie

33:12Stanley did not practice Wednesday or

33:13Thursday, offensive tackle for the

Ravens at Cowboys

33:15Ravens. Something to keep in mind. Uh

33:17Dallas, I mean, you're playing you're

33:20playing both quarterbacks. Obviously,

33:21Dak and Lamar get starts here in Rio.

33:23>> This game I could be awesome. We got a

33:2653 12 point overunder here. We don't

33:28know what the uh field condition will be

33:31if it's anything like the other Brazil

33:32game. Are you surprised is Baltimore

33:34minus three and a half when you might

33:36not have Z Flowers on the field

33:38>> after what their offense looked like

33:39last week against the Saints?

33:41>> To me, I'm a little surprised.

33:44>> Yeah, I get it that it's Well, I guess I

33:46mean it's

33:47>> it's like a neutral sight.

33:48>> Yeah,

33:49>> because you're not in like if you gave

33:50Dallas the home field advantage,

33:52>> then I think I'd be more surprised about

33:53it, but in a completely neutral

33:56>> head-to-head is like I I would take the

33:57Ravens.

33:58>> You playing a Buer or Rashad Baitman in

33:59this game with No Flash? That's a legit

34:01that's a legit question. I I think that

34:03in this game against Dallas, if Zay

34:05Flowers doesn't go, I would rather play

34:07Baitman. He'll he will fly up my

34:08rankings when we get confirmation that

34:10uh

34:11>> yeah,

34:12>> he that Z Flowers is out. And and

34:15alternatively, if Z Flowers plays,

34:16obviously you've got um issues with

34:20possible reagravation, but there's no

34:22world where I

34:23>> he would be out of my lineup. I mean,

34:26against Dallas in a 53 and a half point

34:28overunder, you want the exciting pieces,

34:30Lamar Jackson, Derrick Henry, and then

34:33wide receiver one, whoever that is,

34:36which is either Z Flowers or or Rashad

34:37Baitman, I guess.

34:38>> And I I know you released him and and he

34:40doesn't have a lot of upside, but I

34:42think you could do worse than Mark

34:43Andrews this week as a spot start at

34:44tight end. The targets have still been

34:46there, six and seven. If Flowers is not

34:48there, seven targets to the tight end

34:50position with a chance of a touchdown is

34:52in play. We've talked a lot about

34:54Javvante Williams this week. You're

34:56obviously playing Lamb and Pickins.

34:58Javvante is a kind of uh

35:00>> Oh, you

35:01>> must play still.

35:02>> Yes. Don't let our discussions about

35:04Javvante dissuade you from starting him.

35:06We're just we're concerned long term,

35:09but as of right now, he is the workhorse

35:12and he's going to get all of the

35:13opportunity. Dallas is going to score a

35:15bunch of points.

35:16>> Did we ask the Chuba versus Javvante

35:18rest of season question?

35:19>> I don't I don't think we did. I don't

35:20know.

35:20>> These ones are just popping into my head

35:22today and they that's another one where

35:24I'm like I think I'd rather have the

35:25Chuba side.

35:26>> That one

35:28>> I'm going to take the offense of the

35:29Cowboys, but I I they're in the exact

35:31same tier. I I would take the Javvante

35:33side. I don't think anyone is coming to

35:35take Javvante's job. And while Brooks is

35:38injured for six weeks and it will be a

35:39long stretch, could see towards the

35:41fantasy playoffs

35:43that that becoming more of a time share.

35:45>> Wait, you gota let Jonathan Brooks go.

35:47>> It's It's done.

35:48>> It's done. It's done. It's not

35:49happening.

35:51>> Your comp your your fears now would lie

35:53with AJ Dylan.

35:54>> Okay. So you you don't think Brooks is

35:56coming back at the end of the year?

35:58>> I don't zero.

35:59>> Oh, he might come back to the team.

36:00>> I mean, he was he was healthy, by the

36:02way, to start this year and they don't

36:03use him.

36:04>> He just

36:06>> Yeah,

36:06>> I don't see it.

36:07>> Yeah, not this year anyways.

36:09>> Austin Eckler on the way. Maybe. We'll

Raiders at Saints

36:12see. Las Vegas 2 and 0. Saints 1-1.

36:15Vegas line is New Orleans minus three.

36:18See that one? That one's confusing

36:19because they say the Vegas line, but

36:20then there's like the Vegas Raiders.

36:22>> Oh, I see. Okay. All right.

36:23>> So, they set their own lines there in

36:25Vegas. Um, New Orleans might

36:26>> We're favor again, guys.

36:27>> They're giving themselves bullets and

36:28board material here.

36:30>> Overunder is 43 and a half. And, uh, I

36:33already got one this week, but why not

36:34do another?

36:35>> Oh. Oh, Mr. Raiders over here.

36:38>> Andy's almost upset of the week.

36:43>> Andy tries to walk around the office

36:44like he's not a Raiders guy. I mean he

36:48>> he's like I'm sort you know I sort of a

36:50Raiders and everyone knows you freaking

36:52love the Raiders.

36:53>> What's funny is when he was saying

36:54>> this is me v you this week. This is our

36:56auxiliary teams.

36:57>> Yeah. When when when he was saying that

36:59earlier outside of the studio he was

37:02wearing a Raiders helmet. He's like I

37:04don't understand. People don't know

37:06that.

37:06>> Has it come through that I might believe

37:08a little bit in the

37:09>> And I will say this Crosby and that

37:11rookie corner and defense

37:13>> I love what Kubak is doing. I think that

37:16the team looks good. They are honestly

37:19surprising.

37:20>> What do they look like?

37:21>> Stable.

37:22>> Yeah, they it's not I mean you you're

37:24not just going to Kubiaak a good coach.

37:27>> You're going from a broken version of

37:30Pete Carroll and Suns last year that was

37:33totally inept. And so I do think the

37:36Raiders are a good team. I I don't think

37:38that they are a bad team. However, I

37:40think the Saints are a very good team.

37:42This is their home opener and that I

37:45mean that stadium is going to be wild.

37:48They are so excited for the Saints. So,

37:50this is going to be tough sledding for

37:52the Raiders and if the Raiders go in

37:53there and win, they they will make a

37:54statement.

37:55>> Here's what's impressive to me about the

37:56Raiders. They have shown me something on

37:59the defensive side of the football and

38:00they've won two games without their best

38:02offensive player and one of the best

38:03players in the game,

38:05>> Brock Bowers, who should be returning

38:06this week. So, adding Brock Bowers to

38:08the equation,

38:09>> adding Bowers to the equation. Look, I'm

38:11not going to feel as confident about

38:12that upset if Bower sits it down, but

38:15I've talked about the fact Kelvin Banks

38:17is out for this offensive line. You're

38:19going to see Tyler Shuck deal with

38:20pressure the whole game. He may deal

38:21well with it at home, but um you know, I

38:24don't I don't know what in the world's

38:26going on in the running game for the

38:27Saints, but I don't know if they have

38:29one right now.

38:30>> HN Jr. limited on Wednesday and Thursday

38:32with a hamstring.

38:35>> I man, this I think it's hands off.

38:37>> I think the Raiders win this game. I

38:39just Oh, you said it.

38:40>> I think the Raiders win the game.

38:42>> It's going to be interesting.

38:44>> The only The only thing that you just

38:46need to keep in mind because I know that

38:47they have looked really competent,

38:49really solid. Max Crosby's amazing, is

38:52that they played against the Chargers,

38:54who now we are questioning if they're

38:56good, and the Dolphins, who we don't

38:58have to question, we know. So, we

39:00haven't we haven't seen them really

39:02pushed yet.

39:04Will the Saints push them?

39:06>> I mean, it's a 43 and a half point

39:07overunder. are not expecting big scores

39:09in this game. That's a low over under.

39:12>> It's it's 23 to 20 in that in that line.

39:15It's a lower one. I

39:16>> I think that the plan for the Raiders is

39:18play good defense, run the football 30

39:20times. That's the one area the Saints

39:22have been beat through two weeks. It's

39:2426.2 fantasy points given up through two

39:26weeks for the Saints. They have the

39:28workhorse in Genty to do that. And

39:30you've got Trey Tucker and hopefully

39:31Brock Bowers back in the equation.

39:33Fantasywise, play Genty. Play Bowers if

39:36he's active. play Tucker if you're

39:38desperate. Olive, of course.

39:42>> Vele would be

39:44>> I think Vle is a of course as a flex.

39:46>> Yeah, he's he's viable.

39:47>> Nine targets, seven targets. The volume

39:49will be there.

39:49>> And then the running backs, I don't know

39:51if you can play one.

39:52>> It's really really tough. The only way

39:54that I think you could play one is if it

39:57turns out that one guy is active alone.

40:00Like if because

40:01>> I feel like it's a trap.

40:02>> It feels like a trap. Kendra Miller did

40:05not practice, but it was illness and so

40:07he was inactive last week. I presume

40:10that that was because Alvin Chimera was

40:12active. So this is like kind of a like a

40:14roulette table where I'm like the ball

40:17is bouncing around and it could be

40:18Travis AJ Jr. is active or inactive.

40:21Kendra Miller is active or inactive and

40:23Alvin Kamar is relevant. Uh he is not a

40:27good enough player at this stage of the

40:29career to to put him in. I mean, he

40:32could he could literally touch the ball

40:3320 times and be a bad player.

40:35>> I was going to give you the the numbers.

40:36This is why it's a trap to me. If HN Jr.

40:38is out and you're like, maybe Chimera,

40:40Alvin Chimera had 15 opportunities last

40:43week.

40:43>> Incredible. How many targets?

40:45>> Uh, that includes six targets.

40:47>> Wow.

40:48>> The more valuable than carries. 15

40:51opportunities. And he put up 4.7 fantasy

40:54points.

40:55>> You You're not going to convince me that

40:57Kendra Miller gets more work than

40:58Chimera. That's for sure. And and

41:00>> no, but my point

41:01>> Kendrey Miller is like the only one of

41:03this group who could do anything.

41:04>> If Kendra Miller got eight opportunities

41:06and Alvin Chimera got 14, I would assume

41:09more fantasy points than Kendra Miller

41:11side. But I agree. I think you're hands

41:13off in the running back room right now.

41:14>> And we've talked extensively about Tyler

41:16Shuck. You can use the start set tool on

41:18the website, the fantasyfooters.com to

41:20throw in all these other quarterbacks.

41:21>> Janson,

41:22>> of course,

41:23>> Janson is Jans is fine. It's not I mean,

41:26I'd play

41:27>> it's not a plus matchup. I would just be

41:29chasing the higher overunders with the

41:31Johnson tier of tight ends.

41:33>> Sure.

41:34>> So like Mark, you're going Mark Andrews

41:36over Janson.

41:37>> I I'm okay doing that. Yeah, I like the

41:38targets there. I mean, it's

41:41it's been a a couple of big plays for

41:43Joansson so far. I mean, he's only had

41:45three catches and four catches and he

41:47had a huge run down the sideline and a

41:50touchdown in week one. I'm not taking

41:52anything away from the player. I just

41:53don't know if the targets are going to

41:54be where you want them to be.

41:56>> We'll take a break. We'll talk Sunday

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Rams at Broncos

43:30Paramount Plus.

43:34Well, this one should be fun. The Rams

43:36one and one taking on the one and one

43:37Denver Broncos. The Vegas line. The Rams

43:40minus two and a half

43:42>> in Denver

43:44>> over under 44 and a half.

43:49Uh Mike, you got Blake Corman as your

43:51start of the week. Kairen and Blake,

43:53you're playing them both.

43:54>> Yes.

43:55>> And then Puka, not expected to play

43:56again. Dvonte Adams was insane last

43:59week. He was uh 32% target share. Has a

44:0242% target per run with Puka off the

44:05field as a Ram. And yeah, you you know

44:08the equation here. I mean, Terence

44:09Ferguson is the fun, exciting,

44:11>> yes,

44:12>> upside secondary target

44:14>> because you saw nine targets. You saw a

44:17concerted effort to make him a focal

44:20point in the passing game that led to 14

44:21and a half fantasy points and a

44:23touchdown.

44:24>> And he dropped two big plays. Like he he

44:27should have had a bigger a bigger day.

44:29>> Yeah. I mean, he's he's super like it's

44:31sort of cheat codeesque because Ferguson

44:35really is like a big slot receiver and

44:38you get to play at tight end.

44:40>> Seems to be the rules. If if your last

44:41name is Ferguson

44:43>> and one of the top

44:45>> and one of the top wide receivers is

44:46out, then you're a great option for

44:48fantasy football.

44:48>> This is simple. Fantasy is so simple.

44:50>> Just look for the name Ferguson. M uh I

44:52would say so looking at him uh on

44:55sleeper what I am seeing is his roster

44:58percentage at 23%. So still still pretty

45:02widely available and I would agree like

45:04if you're in the Joan Johnson tier.

45:06>> Oh my gosh.

45:06>> And you get news that I mean

45:09>> I think it'd be pretty shocking at this

45:10point with what we're hearing that if

45:12Puka plays but once you get the official

45:14word that Puka is going to be out I

45:17would put Terren Ferguson in over

45:18someone like Jan.

45:19>> Ter Terren Ferguson must be rostered in

45:21every league. Like I to me if you

45:26you you look at like okay Sam Laaporta

45:28amazing great better offense I feel like

45:31there's more target you know

45:33opportunities here for for Ferguson or

45:35or Tyler Warren against Houston um

45:38Ferguson to me is like now that we know

45:40Puka's not playing and unfortunately I

45:42think when Puka comes back this isn't a

45:44rest of season just Terence Ferguson's

45:46going to be awesome he might be the

45:49receiver three for this team but the

45:51receiver or three is usually irrelevant

45:53for this team. The first two are pretty

45:55dog on good though. So, um, while either

45:58Z's out,

45:58>> and to clarify, Puka has not been ruled

46:00out.

46:01>> Yeah.

46:01>> Oh, I thought you said

46:03I thought you said he was definitely.

46:05>> That's what I was saying. We need the

46:06official words.

46:07>> We don't believe he will. I just want to

46:08be No, thank you. Nasty question for

46:11you, Jason.

46:11>> Ferguson v. Ferguson. By the way, if

46:13that's your matchup this week, I just

46:15want to see it on socials. I'd go

46:16Ferguson. Uh Terrence Ferguson

46:20or the Doctor

46:22Dalton Schultz.

46:23>> Yeah, I uh if

46:25>> make me an appointment,

46:25>> if Puka is out, then I think I would go

46:29Terrence Ferguson.

46:30>> Just chase the upside.

46:31>> Yeah, the the youth, the athleticism. Um

46:33and I think both are going to get a ton

46:35of targets.

46:35>> I I think the Broncos defense is what

46:37talks me into the other side of that

46:38one.

46:39>> Okay.

46:39>> I mean, last there's appointments

46:40available. I know a lot of people have

46:42been saying it's hard to get in last

46:43minute. They've been seeing the doctor

46:44lately.

46:45>> Yeah. But uh

46:46>> how about the other side with the Colts?

46:47>> How about the other side? The Broncos.

46:50>> I mean, Waddle is in.

46:52>> Man, we're starting less Broncos than we

46:54were before, aren't we? I mean, we Bon

46:56Knicks is no longer in the conversation.

46:58>> No, I think that's it. I I'm not the the

47:02>> running back room is a disaster of who's

47:05actually active

47:07and

47:07>> and Tyler Bedet will get work

47:09>> with whatever other dude gets activated.

47:12Right now, Dobbins is a full practice.

47:14Harvey's a full practice and Jonah

47:16Coleman's a DMP

47:17>> and you're playing the Rams.

47:19I'm not I think it's a trap to play a

47:22Broncos running back right now.

47:24>> Yeah, I I can't disagree. The Eagles are

Eagles at Bears

47:27two and0 taking on the Chicago Bears.

47:30>> Who are one and one.

47:31>> Oh man.

47:32>> Who have the third lowest fourth lowest

47:35implied point total of 18.5 this year.

47:37>> Wait, they were going to break the

47:39scoring record.

47:40>> Oh gosh. Philly minus 4 and a half over

47:42under 41 and a half.

47:45I mean, th this is just a pretty simple

47:49this is a bummer situation where you

47:51literally look at this game and you

47:52don't have to say anything fantastic

47:53about the Eagles offense to know they're

47:55going to win the game

47:57because I don't think Chicago can put up

47:59enough points. Now, maybe Ben Johnson is

48:00a miracle worker and Beijing and Keenum

48:03can find. I mean, they have weapons. I

48:05don't want to give them no chance, but

48:07it's four and a half road favorites.

48:09That's heavy.

48:10And you know, I don't think Manonga is

48:13going to play in this game. He's been a

48:14DMP two straight days. We'll see. We

48:17have a DMP for Tyson Begent, who is the

48:19better of the backups. He's actually

48:21shown the ability to like he'll take a

48:23shot downfield. He'll take a shot to

48:24the, you know, to the outside. I I don't

48:27know if Keenum still has it. It's just a

48:30bummer. No Caleb Williams in this game.

48:32Adun Burden Loveland. I don't think you

48:35want to go there against the Eagles.

48:37>> Not really. And

48:39uh it just sucks. It's like the air has

48:42come out of the sails here for Chicago.

48:44And you just have to be patient. Like

48:47>> to me, Lovelin's going to be okay this

48:49year.

48:49>> I I believe that. He's not He's not my

48:51my guy. I believe that as somebody who

48:54believes in the talent of Coulson

48:55Lovelin, the run that he had at the end

48:57of last year, and the fact that this is

48:59not an incompetent franchise that'll

49:00avoid getting the ball to one of the

49:02best players at the position. But I

49:04don't think it happens this week, and it

49:05might not happen for a few weeks.

49:06>> Yeah. I love Case Keenum. The dude, his

49:10last start was negative fantasy points

49:12and that was in 2023. He's 38 years old.

49:16>> I thought he was only doing the State

49:18Farm commercials.

49:19>> Yeah. I mean, yeah. Put in the backup.

49:21He He wasn't supposed to be the backup.

49:23He was the backup to the backup. He's

49:24like, "Ah, shoot." Um, he talked up Ben

49:27Johnson amazingly. Talked about how he's

49:29the the greatest. He's worked with so

49:31many great head coaches and this is the

49:33best offensive line he's ever seen. I'm

49:35sure they can scheme up some stuff, but

49:37Case Keenum, this version of him, I I

49:40agree, is just not going to be able to

49:42get it done. I know that the Eagles have

49:43looked not great, almost lost and

49:46probably should have lost to the

49:47Tennessee Titans last week,

49:49>> but Case Keenum at quarterback is going

49:52to be a I mean, it's just almost

49:54impossible. And Swift seems like, okay,

49:57he might be alone. You know, they

49:58they're going to need him. Another guy

49:59might not be active. and you're probably

50:02still starting him. But this is I mean

50:04you're going to have tough sledding. The

50:06the defense with Carter there, they're

50:08going to plug the line. They're going to

50:09play a ton of guys in the box. I don't

50:11expect um easy gains for Swift.

50:15>> No, it just lines up as a tough game for

50:17that offense altogether. On the other

50:19side, you have injuries all over the

50:20place. You have we lost Dallas, so he's

50:22not a part of the offense. Eli Sters is

50:25on IR and not going to be a part of this

50:26team, it seems like. So you're you're

50:29right now no tight end option. Saquon

50:32Barkley was the only running back the

50:34injured Saquon Barkley to practice.

50:36Shipley and Tank both out on Thursday.

50:38He was limited.

50:39>> The big waiver pickup son the old it's

50:41just like Jonah rope a dope.

50:43>> It's like Jon Coleman the guy that comes

50:44in with the opportunity gets hurt

50:46immediately.

50:46>> The starter is back

50:47>> and then did not practice Thursday.

50:49Devonte Smith the hamstring which by the

50:51way the hamstring is what bothered him

50:52preseason.

50:53>> I will say oh I didn't see that you

50:55didn't practice Thursday. I will say

50:57though it's Thursday, but this is the

50:58Monday night game. So that's like

51:00missing a Wednesday practice.

51:01>> Pay close attention.

51:02>> But yes, you need to be aware. Uh

51:06what what do you guys think of cuz so

51:09with you know the tight end situation

51:12and it being the the ever surviving

51:15Zachary who just keeps getting jobs,

51:18>> do you want to stash Mai Lemon more?

51:21>> Yeah, for sure. I think Mai Lemon is a

51:23great stash right now. I I went back and

51:25Watch the tape.

51:26>> I watched the tape.

51:27>> That made that convinced me.

51:28>> I watched the tape this last week and

51:30obviously bad game. He didn't do

51:32anything. He caught one pass, I believe.

51:34>> Better than week one.

51:35>> Yes. Better than week one. He was used

51:38everywhere. He lined up in the back

51:39field. He lined up in the slot. He lined

51:40up outside. He was, you know, running

51:43routes in in all three levels. He was,

51:45you know, leaking out for a screen. He

51:47was working the middle of the field. He

51:48was going deep. He was on the field and

51:51running routes. And he looked good. He

51:53was getting open. Um it just it didn't

51:56work. It didn't it didn't happen.

51:57>> I'm seeing on I'm seeing let me double

52:00check them on the Oh, that was the

52:01fourth quarter. So Lemon ran

52:05>> 80% of the routes.

52:06>> Oh, he was he that's full time totally

52:08out there more routes than Dantavian W.

52:10>> He's a good player and so to me that

52:13they need him a lot right now. And I I

52:15believe he will be super involved. He's

52:17a he's a good quality first round rookie

52:20wide receiver who's out there getting

52:22opportunities. It just hasn't happened

52:23yet.

52:24>> I also feel like Vle has gotten a lot of

52:26attention as a viable two. Well,

52:28>> the season's almost the exact same for

52:30Dantavian

52:31>> Wix. Absolutely.

52:32>> They've been they are averaging the same

52:33points per game. Targets target share.

52:35Both guys have been good. You need to

52:37think of Wix as a startable player.

52:38>> Absolutely.

52:39>> Wix or downs as the final question.

52:42>> I'll go Wix.

52:43>> I'll play Josh Downs. All right, let's

52:44jump into the faceoff.

Fantasy Faceoff + Wheel of Shame

52:51>> Fantasy Faceoff presented by Prize

52:53Picks.

52:58>> I think Jason's made it known, but he is

53:00sitting here with the Wheel of Shame

53:02once again. Maybe because of the guy

53:04that didn't perform last night.

53:05>> Hey, I can't lose again with Jordan Love

53:08this week, baby.

53:09>> Because he already played. So, uh,

53:10unfortunately for you, Jay, you got to

53:12spin it again.

53:17Wheel of shame.

53:24>> All righty, let's spin that wheel.

53:26>> Yes. Yes. Yes. You lucky lucky man.

53:29>> All right, what do we got? We got tow

53:31jam, clown nose, egg head.

53:33>> Polly.

53:34>> OH, PAULIE.

53:36>> OH, PAULIE wants Oh, no.

53:39>> Mike, do you want to crack? Mike, do you

53:41want to feed the hand the parrot?

53:44>> Let's bust open these saltines here

53:47>> so that you're equipped.

53:49>> Yeah, I'll take some.

53:50>> I'm just I'm probably just going to

53:52throw them at him. Um,

53:53>> no, I don't mean to mess with this,

53:55Jason. How big is your mouth hole?

53:57>> Uh, not not big enough for a cracker.

53:59>> Oh, we're just going to throw

54:01>> Oh my lord. This is Guys, this is this

54:06is a real problem. This

54:09>> I missed.

54:10>> Here you go, buddy. Here. Have a

54:11cracker.

54:12>> I want some crackers.

54:16>> Um, do you need to Does someone need to

54:18read your line for you?

54:20>> 100%. They have to read my line. I am

54:23about 30 seconds from death.

54:26>> You got some air holes. You're fine.

54:27>> I can have a cracker.

54:29>> I can breathe. I just can't see.

54:30>> Yeah, just have a cracker.

54:31>> Is this my nose? Is Am I eating through

54:33my nostril?

54:34>> You are eating through the side mouth.

54:35Yeah, the classic parrot side mouth.

54:38Oh, he's eating the crap.

54:39>> All right, start us off here.

54:41>> All right, I'm going uh my Green Goblin

54:42is quarterback Bryce Young. I'm taking

54:47159.5

54:48passing yards. I'm taking the more.

54:50>> All right, dude. Looking good, Jay. Uh I

54:53am guys,

54:56let's have some fun. Jameus Winston

55:0017 and a half passing completions and I

55:04will take the more.

55:05>> Okay, Winston completions. Yeah.

55:07>> I wonder what Jason's doing. Jay, do you

55:09have any idea what you're doing or do we

55:10have to figure this out?

55:11>> I have a couple different ideas. I made

55:13several lineups.

55:14>> Well, you got to go with the one you

55:15>> Why don't we throw it up on the board on

55:17the board? We'll read it for you. Jason

55:19has Daniel Jones less than 219.5

55:24passing yards.

55:24>> Oh, you hater. But that makes

55:26>> I think that this board is saving him

55:28today.

55:28>> The Texans defense um as well as the

55:31fact that he hasn't thrown for that so

55:33far this season. Uh, you know, um, it

55:35>> quiet parrot.

55:39>> All right, we are at running back. I am

55:42going to go with Blake Cororum. I'm

55:44taking

55:45>> Oh my, you're taking my stuff.

55:46>> 46.5 rushing yards. I'm taking the

55:48Moore. I actually had this one selected

55:50early in the week and it didn't move. So

55:52Blake Cororm more than 46 and a half

55:54rushing yards. I like it. What are you

55:56doing with your hands?

55:57>> I'm wiping crumbs and crackers off.

55:59>> Yeah, that's what you're doing. Um,

56:01>> in Bone Walker,

56:03>> Kenneth Walker.

56:04>> All right. What do you got?

56:05>> 86 and a half rushing yards. No problem.

56:09>> You're taking No problem for Kenneth

56:12Walker.

56:13>> All right, Jason, let's review. I've got

56:15Cam Scataboo. Why don't you say what my

56:17line?

56:18>> It is 57 and a half yards are projected

56:21for Cam Scaboo.

56:22>> You did good on that one.

56:22>> You're going more, huh?

56:23>> Yeah. You did a good You did good on

56:25that one.

56:26>> Have a cracker.

56:28>> This is nonsense. Oh, I love it. Um,

56:30>> I will say it looks like that game's

56:33going to be very rainy now, so that

56:35sucks.

56:35>> Oh, I mean,

56:36>> wait, what?

56:37>> Why would it Why would it suck for

56:40Winston?

56:40>> Yeah, that sucks for Jamus. It's great

56:42for running. All right, guys. I'm not

56:44all I'm not going to be kind with

56:45everybody. You're not going to like this

56:47one, but it's been working so far.

56:49>> Jamar Chase, 77 and a half receiving

56:52yards. I'm taking the less against

56:53Pittsburgh.

56:54>> I'm taking the less. Last week I I

56:57managed to get it with Trey McBride on

56:59his less.

57:00>> So I'm going Jamar Chase.

57:01>> I don't blame you. Um

57:04>> he has a cracker that's perched in the

57:05mouth.

57:05>> So you're telling me the Tennessee

57:07Giants game is going to be rainy, huh?

57:09>> Yeah.

57:11>> Yes, that's a bummer for Jamus and cuz

57:14then the Jaylen Coker news was also a

57:15bummer for me cuz I took the Ted

57:18McMillan 7 and a half receiving targets.

57:20I went more. Okay, that's

57:21>> cuz I thought I was going to be sneaky

57:23and get a

57:24>> Jaylen Coker.

57:25>> Not so sneaky. Why don't we reveal

57:26Jason's wide receiver?

57:27>> Jason's wide receiver is

57:28>> my Green Goblin.

57:29>> Oh, Almond Ross St. Brown, your Green

57:31Goblin. 32 and a half receiving yards.

57:33>> I told you guys before the show I was

57:35like I was like my Green Goblin feels

57:37like the easiest thing of all time.

57:39>> That's fun.

57:40>> Here you go.

57:40>> For you have a treat, Paulie.

57:42>> What do you got?

57:44>> All right, let's finish it up here. Um,

57:46maybe not a surprise. cuz I won't be

57:48shocked if I'm not alone with it. But

57:49I'm going Daltton Schultz. 50.5

57:52receiving yards. I'm taking the Moore.

57:54Yeah.

57:54>> With the doctor.

57:56>> We did okay last week, too, by the way.

57:58We didn't do too bad. Who you got at

58:00your tight end?

58:00>> We did. We did. All right. Uh my my

58:02tight end is my Green Goblin. I will

58:04take the Muth. Two and a half

58:06receptions. We will go more.

58:09>> Okay. I like that. Jason, let's reveal

58:11it. I like the rest of my Johnson.

58:13>> Joan.

58:14>> Oh, Jansson. 35 and a half receiving

58:16yards. You will take the more.

58:17>> Yeah, he's averaging 60 right now. And I

58:19like the game environment.

58:21>> I like it. Whoa, there. How do you still

58:23have more crackers?

58:24>> I just wanted to go through the whole

58:25crackers.

58:26>> It's so It's really fun to throw stuff

58:28at your friends. Uh, all right. That was

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58:43your game. You've really gone from uh on

58:46the edge of dying to enjoying being a a

58:48parrot.

58:49>> I don't know what's going on in the

58:50outside world, but I got crackers in

58:52here.

58:52>> Yes, you do. You do. We are going to say

58:55goodbye. Monday punday coming. Your

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