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Intro
0:06Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers
0:08podcast with your hosts Andy Holloway,
0:12Jason Moore, and Mike Wright.
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0:33garbage time.
0:37We did have some of that Friday,
0:39September 18th, the Fantasy Footballers
0:41podcast. Mike the Fantasy Hitman, Jason
0:42Moore, Andy Holloway back with you.
0:48Great show for you today. Jumping back
0:50into the fantasy forecast, more
0:52matchups. We've got the Wheel of Shame.
0:54We've got our fantasy faceoff. We have
0:57news. Injuries,
0:59Footland Friday,
TNF recap
1:02Packer panic in the streets.
1:06>> 35 to 14. What a difference a not Cooper
1:08Rush makes.
1:09>> Yeah. I mean, we we had talked about
1:11that like you cannot you can't say that
1:14Drake London is bad or um you know that
1:17the Falcons are what we saw those first
1:20two weeks. Um also the Packers are very
1:23bad. I mean, let's go to let's go to
1:25resident Packer fans.
1:26>> Jar, how you do?
1:28>> Oh,
1:28>> wait a minute.
1:29>> He's doing he's doing an impression.
1:31>> Where is he?
1:33>> Well, Papa Josh is the filling. He's
1:35fake crying.
1:35>> Al isn't even here. He um I think he's
1:38taking a day for it's a mental health
1:40day for him.
1:40>> He did have he had a note in our Slack
1:44channel last night because he had to go
1:46watch performance.
1:48>> He lives and breathes the Packers.
1:49>> Yes, he he is a diehard Packers fan. Um,
1:52and he said, "Fortunately, I couldn't
1:53watch the game. Probably saved my life."
1:57>> Well, I mean, I'll tell you who, you
1:59know, Jordan Love's not long for the NFL
2:02with the way the offensive line is
2:03playing. He's been sacked more than
2:04anybody through three games,
2:06>> and a lot of them are like comically
2:09ragdoll type of sacks.
2:11>> I mean, you look at this game and then
2:12you're like, Jordan Love attempted 53
2:15passes, more than double the amount of
2:18passes Michael Penn Jr. had. Oh. Oh, but
2:22that's cuz the running backs combined
2:24for 17 yards on or sorry, that's not
2:27even right, 16 yards. No, 17 yards on
2:31eight carries.
2:31>> Yeah,
2:32>> Marshon Lloyd, Caleb Johnson. I mean,
2:35the offensive line is uh making its
2:38impact across the board.
2:39>> The uh the soothsayers out there calling
2:42for the Caleb Johnson breakout game.
2:46Nope. Nope. Uh
2:48>> the Tucker Craft breakout game.
2:50>> Hey. Nope. Nope. But don't worry, Sky
2:52Moore got seven targets.
2:53>> Tucker Tucker Craft the epitome of
2:58fantasy football here of game
3:00environment ended up sensational.
3:02>> 53 pass attempts.
3:03>> Opportunity for Tucker Craft.
3:06>> Eight targets. Your tight end got eight
3:09targets.
3:10>> Oh, that's very exciting. Except he
3:13caught uh what?
3:14>> Four of them.
3:15>> Four of them for how many yards?
3:16>> 26. And one of the catches, Mike, was
3:20one of the grossest passes I've ever
3:21seen thrown. It was a basically lateral.
3:24>> That one That one didn't count as a
3:26pass, did it?
3:27>> I I That was a backwards pass.
3:28>> That counted That's not a rush attempt.
3:30He'd be in rush attempts. He caught the
3:31ball. It was one of his four catches.
3:34>> That is generous.
3:35>> Ball that went flying sideways. He
3:37caught it. He dropped two passes, which
3:39by the way, he only dropped three.
3:41>> The three is the most he's dropped in a
3:42year.
3:43>> Mhm.
3:43>> And he dropped two last night.
3:44>> Yeah. He He's not
3:45>> not He's not back. He's not back to full
3:47strength. I mean, this is in the
3:48offseason. I was saying he was kind of
3:50off my board at ADP because I don't want
3:51the slow start. However, I fully expect
3:54Craft to be awesome this year. Like, he
3:56is very involved. He's very good. He's
3:58just he's working his way back uh, you
4:00know, to full health, full strength, and
4:02they've got to figure out this offensive
4:03line.
4:04>> Can Michael Parsons play right tackle?
4:05>> Uh, I'm sure he can. I'm sure he can.
4:08>> I bet if that on the list of things he
4:09could figure out. How about 194 yards
4:12rushing by Bejian and 194 yards
4:14receiving by Drake London.
4:16>> Baby, it is more than five yards from
4:19Kyle Pittz. They hogged them all.
4:21>> I mean,
4:22>> Kyle Pittz won for five. Still winning
4:24that trade, boys.
4:25>> Epic tight end failure.
4:27>> Uh, but
4:29I mean, there was so much fantasy
4:32goodness in this one. Those the Falcons
4:34guys, Matthew Golden 101, delightful.
4:38Christian Watson, my guy. A little bit
4:42maybe maybe some stinky. I don't care.
4:44We got 96 and a touchdown out of
4:47Christian Watson. So overall, I mean,
4:50Tucker Craft getting the eight targets
4:52and doing nothing. Major major
4:54disappointment, but
4:55>> it couldn't be more overall pretty good
4:57for fantasy.
4:58>> Couldn't be more over from Marshon
5:00Lloyd.
5:01>> It Yeah, I mean, he's
5:04>> he's not that good. And I wonder, you
5:06know, I've been saying
5:07>> Yeah, I know what you're gonna say.
5:08>> I've been saying Josh Jacobs. They need
5:10They need Josh Jacobs desperately.
5:12Here's the truth.
5:13>> They need a running game desperately.
5:16The last time we have seen Josh Jacobs
5:18with this team, they had a great running
5:20game. So, I keep saying they just need
5:22Josh Jacobs back and they and they
5:24really do. They need a a running back
5:26that can get it done. The question is,
5:29can Josh Jacobs get it done with this
5:30offensive line? because right now
5:33they've got some big issues to figure
5:36out.
5:36>> Yeah, this was uh this was a nightmare
5:39for I mean you were very lucky that that
5:41Golden and Watson if you had them you
5:43got the big games considering how bad
5:45everything else went for the Packers.
5:47>> You know Jordan Love garbage time to his
5:49>> Jordan Love 300 yards two touchdowns
5:52you're okay
5:52>> that's fine
5:53>> and I don't really lay a lot at the feet
5:55of Jordan Love. I mean it's just it's a
5:56discombobulated offense through and
5:58through. They're not doing anything
5:59well.
5:59>> They should be 0 and three. They should
6:01be 0 and three. They they they were very
6:03fortunate to come back and win against
6:05the Jets. And
6:06>> yeah, it's Friday.
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6:43they're just I know we randomly choose
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6:46don't randomly choose them. You just
6:48give me something funny to say.
6:49>> Our our people are funny.
6:51>> They are. Uh let's talk news.
NFL News
6:55News and notes from around the league.
7:00>> Commander general manager Adam Peters
7:02said the team is optimistic about Jaden
7:03Daniels returning in 2026. As of right
7:05now, surgery and IR are not on the table
7:08>> as of right now.
7:10>> Now, I heard one report saying he might
7:13miss as as few as one game. Um, TBD, but
7:18we were saying we were waiting for some
7:20news here. Looks like uh they're trying
7:23to get him back as soon as possible.
7:26>> All right. Well, look, DJ Moore
7:27downgraded to a DMP on Thursday. Keon
7:30Coleman still out. This is not a great
7:33situation. You don't want to go
7:34backwards in terms of designations
7:36during the week. So maybe DJ Moore is
7:38going to miss another week. They take on
7:40the Chargers at home. Keon Coleman would
7:43have been a nice, hey, give him a shot.
7:45But the truth is,
7:47>> you probably could do worse than Khalil
7:48Shakir this week. Khalil Shakir is
7:51>> a PPR option
7:52>> and Daltton Concincaid continues to look
7:54like uh one of the steels of the draft.
7:57>> Nico Collins did not practice not
7:59practicing today or Thursday. Jaylen
8:01Coker, he had been downgraded to a DMP.
8:04>> That was weird.
8:05>> But were was seen at practice today.
8:08>> Yeah. And it was said that he looked
8:10good at practice today. So I think Coker
8:11should be fine. Uh Xavier Legette was
8:15also back, right?
8:16>> Yes. So there you go. Caleb Douglas will
8:20not play this week for the Dolphins. The
8:22one receiver that looked like he had
8:23anything going.
8:24>> He's going to miss some time.
8:24>> Chris Bell expected to play this week.
8:26Okay.
8:27>> Adnai Mitchell, who got a lot of
8:29attention on yesterday's show, showed up
8:30on the injury report with a fingy
8:32injury.
8:33>> Oh no, my fingy got caught in a jersey.
8:36>> I haven't.
8:37>> They said there's some concern over the
8:38injury and he will be limited.
8:40>> I hate that. That sounds so nonsense,
8:43but it's like,
8:44>> okay, imagine you got your finger stuck
8:46>> in someone's jersey and then it just
8:48like dislocated or something. Us
8:51mortals, we would be out. We'd call out
8:54of work for two weeks.
8:55>> Yeah. Didn't I break your like half
8:57break your thumb, throw you a football,
8:58and you were done for the year?
8:59>> Yeah, I was out.
9:00>> You were out.
9:01>> I do think fingers are pretty important
9:03for wide receivers to catch the ball.
9:04>> I'm just saying we we we joke about it.
9:06We were like, but that that's not great.
9:08There's concern he may not be able to
9:10play. So
9:10>> just more targets for Gar Wilson.
9:14>> Yeah.
9:14>> Taj Spears did not practice. Tony Pard
9:16returned to practice. Rico Dout did not
9:18practice. Sam Darnold was upgraded to a
9:20full practice for the Seahawks.
9:22>> All right.
9:23>> And then uh we do have injuries to catch
9:25you up on. We'll we'll handle them and
9:27tackle them during the forecast. So
9:30let's jump right in.
Fantasy Forecast
9:35Fantasy Forecast presented by Prize
9:37Picks.
9:41Yesterday we covered the Chargers,
9:42Bills, Panthers, Browns, Jets, Lions,
9:44Texans, Colts, Chiefs, Dolphins, Titans,
9:46Giants, Bengals, Steelers, Seahawks,
9:48Commanders.
9:50So, if you want to hear those, you can
9:52listen to yesterday's episode. We got
9:53seven more matchups to talk through.
9:54Starting with the New England Patriots
Patriots at Jaguars
9:57back to one and one, taking on the
9:59one-on-one Jacksonville Jaguars.
10:01This game's in Jacksonville, the Vegas
10:03line. Jacksonville minus three. The
10:05overunderers 45 and a half.
10:08>> Yeah, I don't know what you guys did
10:09with your little uh like the pool picks
10:11here in the office.
10:12>> This one was a this one was a troubling,
10:15difficult one for me.
10:16>> The first thing I did was look at the uh
10:17the Atlanta Falcons versus the Green Bay
10:19Packers. And I was like,
10:21>> come on. Come on. 13 straight home
10:24openers. Come on.
10:27I was like,
10:28>> that's how many they had won?
10:29>> Yeah.
10:29>> Oh, I didn't know that. And I was like,
10:31Atlanta, there's no way. I'm like,
10:32they're going to screw this up, but I'm
10:33going to pick the Packers anyways. So,
10:35that's how I've started.
10:36>> Uh, yeah. Well, look, this game, this
10:39one's interesting to me. Um, New
10:42England's defense got it together last
10:43week. Drake May has not been a fantasy
10:45force thus far. Trevor Lawrence slowed
10:47down by Denver last week. How do you
10:49feel about the two ball throwers in this
10:52one,
10:54>> man? I about Trevor Lawrence.
10:55>> Yes, that's exactly what I was just
10:56going to say. Even though it's a tougher
10:58matchup,
10:58>> I would prefer to play Trevor Lawrence
11:00over Drake May. We we just haven't seen
11:02much good from Drake May since he lost
11:06his wide receivers. I mean, that's
11:08that's a a difficult thing to try to do
11:11when you're you know, you you lost Digs,
11:13you lost Booty, and then you replaced
11:15him with AJ Brown, who you lost.
11:18Drake May is still a very good uh
11:20quarterback. I I looked at his uh prize
11:24picks projection and almost went with it
11:26because it, you know, to me it was like
11:28against Jacksonville, you should do it.
11:30>> What is it?
11:31>> Um I'll I'll look it up real quick. That
11:33was this morning when I was looking
11:34last,
11:35>> right?
11:35>> What how nasty
11:38are you willing to get with the
11:39quarterback position versus Drake May?
11:41Like are we saying Gino Smith against
11:44the Detroit Lions?
11:46>> Man, that is that is nasty.
11:48>> Kyler Murray against the Tampa Bay
11:50Buccaneers. Kyler is interesting to me.
11:53Um I I currently have Gino's projected
11:56head.
11:56>> There's no way I would try Kyler out.
11:58The only the only plays we saw from
11:59Kyler were garbage. Then he got hurt.
12:03>> Okay. So you're not going What about
12:04Gino?
12:05>> I I don't I don't think I I would I
12:07think I'd stick with Drake May.
12:09>> I would as well. The players
12:11>> 216 and a half passing. players that I
12:13would play over May would be kind of
12:14those those love affairs we've talked
12:16about recently, Shock and Bryce Young
12:18that where it's like you might have
12:19picked them up off of waiverss still be
12:22rostering Drake May.
12:23>> Brock Pery for sure.
12:24>> Oh, Brock Party for sure. What about
12:26Stafford against Denver,
12:28>> man?
12:30Is it Is it in Denver?
12:31>> No, I play May.
12:34>> Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna play.
12:36>> Oh, man.
12:36>> Trayvo and Raandre.
12:39Last week, Raandre had the fumble, so he
12:42saw his snaps cut down to 36%. Tvo had
12:44the big play, but was held in check
12:47outside of that. Um, which of the two
12:50would you rather start this week, Mike?
12:54Dude, it's impossible.
12:56It was It would have been Raandre last
12:58week, but he fumbled. This is
13:01this is part of the it's just a huge
13:03problem of you you don't know when it
13:05will actually be Tvon Henderson at least
13:07for now with the the the current
13:09information.
13:10>> You know what's tough?
13:11>> I guess I would play Raandre.
13:12>> So Trayvon had 60% of snaps last week.
13:14How many targets do you think he had?
13:16>> Not enough.
13:17>> Well, zero is not enough. Zero targets,
13:19zero receptions. That's the part of of
13:22like how do you put Trayvon in a
13:24position where he can succeed? You know,
13:27you know, you you he's the only one that
13:29can give you a special run, but he had
13:3016 carries last week.
13:33>> How do you not give him a couple of
13:35screens
13:36when you don't have wide receivers?
13:38>> I think they will. I think they'll get
13:39him more and more involved. This was
13:40his, you know, his first game back and
13:43they were up by so much in that game
13:45where,
13:46>> you know, I think it would have been
13:47different if it was uh, you know, a
13:50different game script. Um, I did look up
13:53the the Drake May projection here. Uh,
13:57216 and a half on the
13:59>> passing yards. Yeah. I have him
14:00projected for around 250. And I'm like,
14:03>> oh man, how that's it's so tempting, but
14:06at the same time,
14:07>> he just has no one to throw the ball to
14:09because they won't put TO in the slot.
14:11>> Bashalt Tutin seems like he's the dude.
14:13Did you see in our league of record
14:14Chris Rodriguez got dumped this morning?
14:16Like the decision has been made. six
14:19opportunities in each of the last two
14:22weeks.
14:23>> Parker Washington seems like the dude.
14:25Are you starting another wide receiver,
14:26Jason, for Jacksonville?
14:27>> Um, I will say that I think a sneaky
14:30start is Brian Thomas Jr. in this
14:32matchup. Um, you know, when you've got a
14:35superstar corner, uh, which the Patriots
14:39do have, I I don't know necessarily that
14:41they will use him in shadow coverage,
14:42but oftent times that lets a quality
14:45wide receiver too shine. So, this is a
14:47matchup where um you know, last year you
14:50could throw on the
14:51>> calling him a quality wide receiver,
14:52too.
14:52>> Yeah, I I think Brian Thomas Jr. is a
14:54quality wide receiver, too.
14:56>> You you disagree?
14:58>> He's been real bad, man. Like, he got
15:00eight targets last week. He got three of
15:02them for 40 yards.
15:03>> Oh, man. That sounds like metaf.
15:06>> Okay. Anytime anytime a receiver catches
15:08a low percentage of their targets,
15:10that's calling that's calling in a
15:12metaf.
15:13>> If we're And so, if we want to do that
15:15algebra, the way I feel about DK Metaf,
15:18>> I'm I'm kind of more on Jason's side
15:19with this one. I I think that BTJ might
15:21be a little bit sneaky here. It's a 45
15:24and a half point overunder. I don't know
15:26where Christian Rodriguez is going to
15:28end up, you know, lining up. It might be
15:31on the outside. It might be on BTJ more
15:33than the guy that they move around the
15:34formation a lot in Parker, but I I
15:37wouldn't be surprised if uh if he saw
15:40eight targets. Again, I'm not messing
15:42around with Patriots wide outs. I don't
15:43know how to predict that right now. Dos
15:45and Matt Collins and Douglas and Hunter
15:47Henry.
15:48>> Um it would be Dobs, I guess, if there
15:51was one to choose. Last week, bounced
15:52back for three catches, 96 yards.
15:55>> Yeah, only four targets. The snaps still
15:57remain low, but his his a dot is
16:00>> like he's got if he comes down with one,
16:02he's it's going to be a big one.
16:03>> What's his a dog? Does he have it in
16:05him?
16:06>> I think Romeo do says dog.
16:09>> I feel like if he did, you would have
16:10called him Romeo dog.
16:14>> No,
16:14>> I don't know.
16:15>> At least dogs.
16:17>> Arizona 101, San Francisco 2 and 0.
16:19Vegas line here. San Francisco minus 8
16:21and a half over under 47 and a half. I
Cardinals at 49ers
16:24I'm so excited because I almost brought
16:25it up a minute ago because you were
16:27talking about different quarterbacks
16:28with Drake May and I was going to say
16:29obviously Brock Pery, right? I think I
16:31did say that. Yes. But I wanted to bring
16:33up the fact that you talk about perfect
16:34storms forming.
16:36>> Oh man,
16:37>> you we talked about Carolina and and
16:38Bryce Young and the fact that
16:41>> the substation is taking names. Six
16:44defensive linemen in two weeks have gone
16:46down for the 49ers. The latest news this
16:49morning, we don't report a lot of
16:51defensive news, right?
16:52>> But
16:53>> Nick Bosa
16:55>> injured, multiple week absence, could be
16:57longer. The 49ers are being their
17:01defense is being stripped bare. I mean,
17:04their offense is well, but they're
17:05getting to the point now where you're
17:07like, you know, could you see Arizona
17:09putting up points in San Francisco? I
17:12don't know. I I it seems 50/50 with
17:14Brassette and whether the offense works
17:16week to week, but not having Nick Bosa,
17:19not having the pass rush we saw from
17:21Seattle last week,
17:22>> certainly better for the Cardinals.
17:24>> I mean, you you're just getting to the
17:25point where like San Francisco and Brock
17:26Party, like Brock Party is looking more
17:28like
17:30>> the long-term every week answer at
17:32quarterback for fantasy football
17:34players.
17:34>> Brock Pury is he's a plugandplay to me
17:37at this point. Uh I don't I don't see
17:40any reason to move off. Would you rather
17:41have him or Shuck rest the season locked
17:43into your lineup?
17:44>> Brock Py Brock because I know like every
17:47again everything with Chuck is just it's
17:48a brewing excitement. It's a what could
17:52be rock that Brock Perie is
17:54>> the guy like Brock Perie is is so
17:56fantastic of he is like a one of one
18:00that his touchdown rate Jason you
18:02brought it up yesterday I think of he's
18:04just he throws his touchdown percentage
18:06is it's over seven and you go yeah
18:09that's not regressing that's just who
18:11Brock Perie is at this point uh for the
18:13Cardinals
18:15I don't think they they mentioned that
18:18Jacobe Brassette got hurt or was dealing
18:21with something in the game. They didn't
18:22say anything specific cuz I don't
18:24remember. And he looked awful.
18:26>> Yeah, he I think he was dealing with the
18:27pass rush. That was the biggest thing.
18:29>> I feel like something was wrong.
18:30>> I think they talked about his quad.
18:32>> I thought it was a quad issue, which I
18:33haven't seen anything about it, but I
18:36think that that should be a like that's
18:39a concern of McBride is in. Absolutely.
18:44And then after that, I mean, are you
18:47what are you doing with So Jeremiah
18:48Love,
18:49>> we're still frustrated there. I mean,
18:51this is this is the issue with a rookie
18:54who is highly drafted in fantasy when
18:56you take him at that two-3 turn at the
18:59beginning of the year because we're
19:00still seeing like last week Tyler Algier
19:02was 64% of snaps and you know, Love is
19:06not getting enough of the work. I fully
19:08expect that to change as the season goes
19:10on. Love will usurp him and take over
19:13and become the leader. He freaking
19:16better if you spin a top five
19:17>> pick. I mean it was Seattle. It was
19:19Seattle last week. I mean that and he's
19:21coming back from a high ankle sprain. I
19:23was going to ask the question is he a
19:24buy low cuz to me he's a huge buy low
19:26opportunity.
19:26>> He's he definitely should be. And just
19:28for some context of of where the market
19:30feels about Jeremiah Love the price
19:32picks projection for McAffrey for yards
19:36from scrimmage. So rush receiving just
19:38under a 100 yards. that yeah McAffrey
19:42Jeremiah Love's down to 58 and a half
19:44for a combined rushing and receiving.
19:47>> Yeah, you're going to have to call your
19:48shot as to which week he takes over the
19:51job or at least usurps him to become the
19:53leader of the job. I think it could be
19:55this week uh with the hurting defensive
19:57line, the divisional game, and now we're
20:00three weeks removed uh from that ankle
20:02injury. It it could be now. Do we you do
20:05we I we're two weeks in. And it's hard
20:07to make real assessments like that. Do
20:11you think Tyler Algier's just going to
20:12go away?
20:14>> No, I don't think Tyler Algier's ever
20:15going to go away enough to a point where
20:17Jeremiah Love can like
20:19>> I think that
20:19>> Or is he or is Jeremiah Love going to
20:21Does it going to feel like uh Jarian
20:23Price at the end of the year?
20:24>> No, I I don't think so. I think that um
20:27Algier will never go away. He will be
20:30involved and unfortunately he'll
20:32probably be involved near the goal line.
20:35However, I I I expect that Jeremiah Love
20:38will get to 60% of the opportunities,
20:42the work, and that I think will be
20:43enough.
20:43>> Like Bejan and Tyler Algier.
20:45>> Exactly. Right. And Bejon got off to a
20:48slow start his rookie year, but what was
20:49still very good by the end for fantasy.
20:52That's
20:52>> and and we haven't had that kind of
20:54iconic Jeremiah Love play yet. We're
20:56going to have one or two or 10 like he's
20:59going to have the breakaway run, the the
21:00Bejian type of run. So I I do think it's
21:02a bo opportunity. You're not, you know,
21:06you can't go in with absolute confidence
21:08right now, which is why it's a boow
21:10opportunity. Somebody might be willing
21:11to give him up for, you know, let me
21:14just give you a hypothetical. Chuba has
21:16a big week this week. Jeremiah Love
21:17stays sub 40% snaps.
21:21>> You know, I I think that's when you
21:22start to you're three weeks in. Somebody
21:24might decide Jeremiah Love's not
21:26happening and that Chuba is. Just
21:28something to bring up. If you have three
21:29straight top 12 weeks from Chuba,
21:32>> I'd still be willing to trade him away
21:33for Jeremiah Love.
21:34>> Okay.
21:34>> Oh, yeah. I I would as well. Also,
21:37update on the Brassette. He's been a
21:39full participant uh Wednesday and
21:41Thursday of practice, but he is listed
21:42on the injury report with a hip injury.
21:44>> Okay.
21:46>> Debo is in start of the week.
21:48>> Your your start of the week. He's he's
21:51the last man standing. And then George
21:53KD, the snaps still aren't there, but
21:55four for 80 and a touchdown last week.
21:57>> Yeah. Really? I'd take the production
22:00>> of KD over these snaps of of freaking
22:02Tucker Craft right now. Like I'm I'm
22:04going these guys came back from ACL's.
22:07They're doing more.
22:08>> KD was KD was Achilles.
22:09>> Sorry. They're doing more with less. You
22:11know what I mean? Like KD he comes in.
22:12They're like, "Hey, we're going to go to
22:14you."
22:15>> Yeah.
22:16>> I don't know.
22:16>> KD's awesome.
22:18>> Mike Evans, you are on uh injury watch.
22:20He did not practice on Thursday. He is a
22:23veteran. He's the type of guy that might
22:24not practice a lot and still play.
22:28Is he in?
22:29>> I I think so. I think if he is I think
22:33if he's active, I'm going to have him
22:34in.
22:35>> Josh DS or Mike Evans.
22:39>> I'd go Mike Evans.
22:40>> If Mike Evans plays, I would play him.
22:44>> But that's that's tough. And when legit
22:48when is management, you know, the
22:50substation is just like it feels like a
22:52fun bit that we do on Twitter.
22:55At some point, at some point they act
22:58they have to actually take it serious,
22:59right? I mean, I don't think it's
23:01actually the substation. I think it's
23:02the way that they train, the way that
23:04their medical staff brings players back,
23:06the time. Like, there's there is
23:07something going on for sure. They've
23:10literally been the leader in in starter
23:12injuries for like six consecutive years,
23:16>> but they've changed staffs over that
23:17time. That was one of the big headlines
23:18a few years ago.
23:20>> I mean, maybe it's Shanahan and you're
23:22not going to change it. He forces people
23:23to get back. I don't I don't know.
23:25>> You're playing any Cardinal white outs
23:26in this game?
23:27>> No.
23:28>> So, play Trey McBride?
23:29>> Yep.
23:30>> Okay, we'll take a break. We'll get into
23:32some more matchups.
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Vikings at Bucs
24:43The Minnesota Vikings at 2 and 0 taking
24:46on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers at 0 and2.
24:49Vegas line Minnesota minus one and a
24:51half on the road. Overunders just 42 and
24:52a half in this game.
24:55It's been overcoming adversity for
24:58Minnesota versus creating adversity for
25:02Baker Mayfield and the offense in Tampa
25:05Bay.
25:05>> A problem of my own design.
25:07>> And yet Tampa is favored in this game.
25:09>> The old consequences of my own actions.
25:11It's just this is one of those games
25:13where if Tampa wins it,
25:16it's it's a nightmare for Minnesota
25:18because it means that Kyler Murray came
25:20out there, didn't win the ball game, and
25:23Carson Wentz got them two dubs, and I
25:26just think that that's not a great story
25:29for Minnesota.
25:30>> That would be awful. The first thing
25:31that went through my head when I saw the
25:33spread, cuz honestly, I think the
25:35Vikings should be favored by more than a
25:37point and a half. Uh the their defense
25:40has been outrageously good and the
25:41Buccaneers do not look like they have it
25:43together. They they have lost a lot of
25:45games here since the second half of last
25:47year. I mean they they were
25:48>> they got Watson another start.
25:51>> They got who?
25:51>> The Buccaneers were so bad that Deshun
25:54Watson will still be starting for the
25:55Cleveland Browns.
25:55>> Yes. Exactly. And so, uh, when I saw
25:58that line, I was like, is this just like
26:01Kyler Murray? Like, it's like a hedge
26:04against Kyler just being terrible
26:06because I just don't see how the
26:08Buccaneers win this outside of Kyler
26:10being terrible.
26:10>> Well, I I I could see it. I mean, I the
26:13the low overunder, they seem to be
26:16angling towards a close defensive minded
26:19game. I wouldn't say any of us have been
26:21like super impressed with the Minnesota
26:23offense in the last two weeks. They've
26:25gotten some stuff done, but I mean
26:26>> they're they're part of the bears though
26:28of the like week one their offense in
26:31the second half was awesome and week two
26:32you have to throw it in the garbage
26:34>> because of the storm.
26:36>> Yeah. I mean it's it still was Carson
26:39Wentz and we haven't seen Kyler. So I I
26:41you know we're not playing Addison,
26:42we're not playing Hawinson. We might not
26:44be playing a running back on this team
26:46this week. That's another factor, right?
26:47Like if Aaron Jones, he is limited and
26:49he's he's supposed to be back, but that
26:52is a factor in the way that this offense
26:53is going to be able to function if it's,
26:56you know,
26:57>> that could be a bigger portion of the
26:59why this they're the favor.
27:00>> I think I misspoke and said Tampa was
27:02favored by one and a half. By the way,
27:04Jason, you corrected me. Minnesota minus
27:06one and a half, but it's close. The
27:08Ibuka situation, he is at price picks
27:11has him at 48 and a half receiving
27:13yards. He's only got a 17% target share
27:16on the year.
27:17Where are you? What's the head space for
27:19AMC Ibuka? Is he a buy low? Is he a I'm
27:22scared after the second half of last
27:23year? Is this a Baker needs to prove it
27:26before I believe? What What is the
27:27situation there? Uh I am very concerned
27:31about it about how they are spreading
27:32the ball around. I just wanted to double
27:34check. So yeah, so 17 18% for a Mecca
27:39>> as far as target share.
27:40>> Target share.
27:40>> Disgusting.
27:41>> You know who's got 17% target share in
27:43that offense?
27:44>> Kate Uton.
27:45>> It's me. Yeah,
27:47>> Ted Hurst.
27:48>> 70%.
27:49>> Oh my gosh.
27:50>> If only we could fly.
27:53>> Like they can't fly.
27:54>> That's why I'm concerned.
27:56>> No, that I mean
27:56>> is Ted Hurst out here. Ted Fred Durst
27:59Hurst pulling in a 17% target share out
28:02the gate.
28:03>> Is he Is he Ted Fred Durst Hurst or is
28:05he
28:05>> I don't know. Is he Fred Hurst?
28:07>> I don't know.
28:10>> Um so is that you're afraid?
28:13>> I am. I'm very I'm very concerned that
28:15that he is not
28:17>> it's like uh
28:18>> he is not him.
28:20>> I don't I don't know about that but I
28:21the don't hear what I'm not saying but
28:23it's like Marv is not commanding targets
28:26for Arizona
28:29is clearly not commanding targets from
28:32Baker and the way that we feel like he
28:36should be as a first run talent as he
28:38should he should clearly be the number
28:40one and he is not being treated like it.
28:42>> Yeah. And and honestly,
28:45he got off to such a strong start as a
28:48rookie that I think we forgot who he
28:51was. He was one of my favorite prospects
28:53as a wide receiver because what I saw
28:55was just a phenomenal wide receiver. But
28:58also, you know, for fantasy purposes, I
29:01didn't think he had a super high
29:02ceiling. He wasn't my wide receiver one
29:04for the rookies. When we were talking
29:06about him pre-NFL draft, I was like, he
29:08is a perfect wide receiver. great route
29:10runner, good hands, does everything you
29:12want, but he's not the kind of like
29:14neighborsesque explosive athlete that's
29:16going to take over in fantasy, have
29:17these incredible deep touchdowns, you
29:20know, left, right, and center. He to me
29:22is like the perfect NFL wide receiver,
29:24too. And he seemed like he was to start
29:26last year when they had Mike Evans and
29:28all that. He hasn't scored 10 fantasy
29:31points since week 10 last year. I mean,
29:33that is a lot of games in a row where I
29:36think you might just have to adjust your
29:37expectations and say he's not a fantasy
29:42star.
29:42>> You said since week 10
29:44>> of last year. Yeah.
29:45>> Yeah. They're they're they're two and
29:46nine in those games. Do you going back
29:49to week 10 of last year? They have been
29:51>> which is 10 games.
29:52>> They have been a terrible football team.
29:54>> Where do we want do you feel like the
29:56blame is Baker Mayfield or Ibuka? I I
30:02think it's been a m I I it's pretty much
30:04what it's been since week 10, which is
30:08Baker was hurt, Iuku was hurt last year.
30:11This year, Baker is a nightmare so far.
30:14He cannot connect down the field.
30:15>> He's 30th in EPA per play among
30:17quarterbacks.
30:18>> Every every downfield ball, he's
30:19overthrowing people. I mean, you talked
30:21about Ted Hurst target share. Where's
30:23Where's the big plays?
30:24>> There aren't any big plays. It's not
30:26Hurst's fault. He he's been around the
30:28ball. it. To me, this is you've got to
30:31start giving Bucky Irving even more
30:33work. You need to pick your spots and
30:36give some easier completions to Baker
30:38Mayfield. It should be a Bua.
30:39>> They were like, "Bucky's been on a We
30:42got him on a snap count right now."
30:44>> Bull crap.
30:46>> 15 opportunities, 21 opportunities. What
30:48are they going to do? What's going to
30:50happen?
30:51>> They're just counting his snaps.
30:53>> Um, no, I I love it. I mean, obviously
30:55Bucky has been um a a good pick so far,
30:59very involved. And I think that the
31:00worries of this is going to be a 5050
31:04time share with Kenny Gainwell that they
31:05brought in is that's already been
31:07answered. That's that's not the case. Um
31:09but against this Minnesota Vikings
31:11defense, I'm not I'm not excited for
31:13anybody. I'm certainly I'm not excited
31:14for Bucky either. He's Am I starting
31:16him? Yeah, he's going to get the
31:17opportunities. You're hoping for a
31:18touchdown somewhere.
31:19>> Probably a bad game. I'm not starting
31:21Baker. Honestly, I think IA is is a
31:23player that if you have other good
31:24options, um I would
31:26>> IA or DS. Downs is now the the the
31:30measuring stick for the week.
31:31>> All right, let me actually look at that
31:33one.
31:33>> By the way, I rookie
31:35>> is one spot ahead of IUA for me
31:37>> outside the last three games of last
31:38year. He's 24% target share as a rookie.
31:40He had games at 30 35% target share. The
31:42fact he's at 17%. He did that one time
31:44in his first 14 games and now he's done
31:47it through two games, it it is
31:49problematic.
31:51They seem like a team that maybe the I
31:53don't know who the leading candidate for
31:54a mid-season firing is. To me, it's Todd
31:56Bulls.
31:57>> Yeah, he's
31:58>> Yeah, he's got to be up there. I I think
31:59I would still play Ibuka over DS just
32:01because DS has an equally bad matchup
32:03against Houston.
32:05>> He's he'll be fine.
32:06>> Hopefully. Josh, I hope so. But there's
32:08plenty of players, you know, the Jaylen
32:10Coker tier, Jameson Williams, who's been
32:12bad. Those type of players I would I
32:13would be playing over IUA.
32:15>> Let's go to Rio. Baltimore, Dallas.
32:20We're in Brazil. Bonjour.
32:23>> Baltimore minus three and a half. Over
32:24under 53 and a half.
32:27>> Both teams are one and one, right?
32:29>> Both teams I believe are one and one. Th
32:32This is uh Z Flowers is traveling uh
32:35with the team, but he has not practiced
32:37yet. So him traveling
32:40I thought it was very strange of like
32:42how do you if he's not he hasn't
32:45practiced yet on track to not play went
32:48down to Brazil.
32:50>> Then I saw a video of uh one of the
32:54Ravens players posted it and they're in
32:56this like fancy hotel pool.
32:58>> That might be why he went
32:59>> and I was like that's why he went.
33:00>> Oh okay.
33:01>> I'm not missing out on my trip to
33:02Brazil. I got this passport for a
33:04reason.
33:04>> Yeah. Okay. I guess they're human
33:06beings. and maybe he just was like
33:08Brazil.
33:09>> So, we we have some news. Uh Ronnie
33:12Stanley did not practice Wednesday or
33:13Thursday, offensive tackle for the
Ravens at Cowboys
33:15Ravens. Something to keep in mind. Uh
33:17Dallas, I mean, you're playing you're
33:20playing both quarterbacks. Obviously,
33:21Dak and Lamar get starts here in Rio.
33:23>> This game I could be awesome. We got a
33:2653 12 point overunder here. We don't
33:28know what the uh field condition will be
33:31if it's anything like the other Brazil
33:32game. Are you surprised is Baltimore
33:34minus three and a half when you might
33:36not have Z Flowers on the field
33:38>> after what their offense looked like
33:39last week against the Saints?
33:41>> To me, I'm a little surprised.
33:44>> Yeah, I get it that it's Well, I guess I
33:46mean it's
33:47>> it's like a neutral sight.
33:48>> Yeah,
33:49>> because you're not in like if you gave
33:50Dallas the home field advantage,
33:52>> then I think I'd be more surprised about
33:53it, but in a completely neutral
33:56>> head-to-head is like I I would take the
33:57Ravens.
33:58>> You playing a Buer or Rashad Baitman in
33:59this game with No Flash? That's a legit
34:01that's a legit question. I I think that
34:03in this game against Dallas, if Zay
34:05Flowers doesn't go, I would rather play
34:07Baitman. He'll he will fly up my
34:08rankings when we get confirmation that
34:10uh
34:11>> yeah,
34:12>> he that Z Flowers is out. And and
34:15alternatively, if Z Flowers plays,
34:16obviously you've got um issues with
34:20possible reagravation, but there's no
34:22world where I
34:23>> he would be out of my lineup. I mean,
34:26against Dallas in a 53 and a half point
34:28overunder, you want the exciting pieces,
34:30Lamar Jackson, Derrick Henry, and then
34:33wide receiver one, whoever that is,
34:36which is either Z Flowers or or Rashad
34:37Baitman, I guess.
34:38>> And I I know you released him and and he
34:40doesn't have a lot of upside, but I
34:42think you could do worse than Mark
34:43Andrews this week as a spot start at
34:44tight end. The targets have still been
34:46there, six and seven. If Flowers is not
34:48there, seven targets to the tight end
34:50position with a chance of a touchdown is
34:52in play. We've talked a lot about
34:54Javvante Williams this week. You're
34:56obviously playing Lamb and Pickins.
34:58Javvante is a kind of uh
35:00>> Oh, you
35:01>> must play still.
35:02>> Yes. Don't let our discussions about
35:04Javvante dissuade you from starting him.
35:06We're just we're concerned long term,
35:09but as of right now, he is the workhorse
35:12and he's going to get all of the
35:13opportunity. Dallas is going to score a
35:15bunch of points.
35:16>> Did we ask the Chuba versus Javvante
35:18rest of season question?
35:19>> I don't I don't think we did. I don't
35:20know.
35:20>> These ones are just popping into my head
35:22today and they that's another one where
35:24I'm like I think I'd rather have the
35:25Chuba side.
35:26>> That one
35:28>> I'm going to take the offense of the
35:29Cowboys, but I I they're in the exact
35:31same tier. I I would take the Javvante
35:33side. I don't think anyone is coming to
35:35take Javvante's job. And while Brooks is
35:38injured for six weeks and it will be a
35:39long stretch, could see towards the
35:41fantasy playoffs
35:43that that becoming more of a time share.
35:45>> Wait, you gota let Jonathan Brooks go.
35:47>> It's It's done.
35:48>> It's done. It's done. It's not
35:49happening.
35:51>> Your comp your your fears now would lie
35:53with AJ Dylan.
35:54>> Okay. So you you don't think Brooks is
35:56coming back at the end of the year?
35:58>> I don't zero.
35:59>> Oh, he might come back to the team.
36:00>> I mean, he was he was healthy, by the
36:02way, to start this year and they don't
36:03use him.
36:04>> He just
36:06>> Yeah,
36:06>> I don't see it.
36:07>> Yeah, not this year anyways.
36:09>> Austin Eckler on the way. Maybe. We'll
Raiders at Saints
36:12see. Las Vegas 2 and 0. Saints 1-1.
36:15Vegas line is New Orleans minus three.
36:18See that one? That one's confusing
36:19because they say the Vegas line, but
36:20then there's like the Vegas Raiders.
36:22>> Oh, I see. Okay. All right.
36:23>> So, they set their own lines there in
36:25Vegas. Um, New Orleans might
36:26>> We're favor again, guys.
36:27>> They're giving themselves bullets and
36:28board material here.
36:30>> Overunder is 43 and a half. And, uh, I
36:33already got one this week, but why not
36:34do another?
36:35>> Oh. Oh, Mr. Raiders over here.
36:38>> Andy's almost upset of the week.
36:43>> Andy tries to walk around the office
36:44like he's not a Raiders guy. I mean he
36:48>> he's like I'm sort you know I sort of a
36:50Raiders and everyone knows you freaking
36:52love the Raiders.
36:53>> What's funny is when he was saying
36:54>> this is me v you this week. This is our
36:56auxiliary teams.
36:57>> Yeah. When when when he was saying that
36:59earlier outside of the studio he was
37:02wearing a Raiders helmet. He's like I
37:04don't understand. People don't know
37:06that.
37:06>> Has it come through that I might believe
37:08a little bit in the
37:09>> And I will say this Crosby and that
37:11rookie corner and defense
37:13>> I love what Kubak is doing. I think that
37:16the team looks good. They are honestly
37:19surprising.
37:20>> What do they look like?
37:21>> Stable.
37:22>> Yeah, they it's not I mean you you're
37:24not just going to Kubiaak a good coach.
37:27>> You're going from a broken version of
37:30Pete Carroll and Suns last year that was
37:33totally inept. And so I do think the
37:36Raiders are a good team. I I don't think
37:38that they are a bad team. However, I
37:40think the Saints are a very good team.
37:42This is their home opener and that I
37:45mean that stadium is going to be wild.
37:48They are so excited for the Saints. So,
37:50this is going to be tough sledding for
37:52the Raiders and if the Raiders go in
37:53there and win, they they will make a
37:54statement.
37:55>> Here's what's impressive to me about the
37:56Raiders. They have shown me something on
37:59the defensive side of the football and
38:00they've won two games without their best
38:02offensive player and one of the best
38:03players in the game,
38:05>> Brock Bowers, who should be returning
38:06this week. So, adding Brock Bowers to
38:08the equation,
38:09>> adding Bowers to the equation. Look, I'm
38:11not going to feel as confident about
38:12that upset if Bower sits it down, but
38:15I've talked about the fact Kelvin Banks
38:17is out for this offensive line. You're
38:19going to see Tyler Shuck deal with
38:20pressure the whole game. He may deal
38:21well with it at home, but um you know, I
38:24don't I don't know what in the world's
38:26going on in the running game for the
38:27Saints, but I don't know if they have
38:29one right now.
38:30>> HN Jr. limited on Wednesday and Thursday
38:32with a hamstring.
38:35>> I man, this I think it's hands off.
38:37>> I think the Raiders win this game. I
38:39just Oh, you said it.
38:40>> I think the Raiders win the game.
38:42>> It's going to be interesting.
38:44>> The only The only thing that you just
38:46need to keep in mind because I know that
38:47they have looked really competent,
38:49really solid. Max Crosby's amazing, is
38:52that they played against the Chargers,
38:54who now we are questioning if they're
38:56good, and the Dolphins, who we don't
38:58have to question, we know. So, we
39:00haven't we haven't seen them really
39:02pushed yet.
39:04Will the Saints push them?
39:06>> I mean, it's a 43 and a half point
39:07overunder. are not expecting big scores
39:09in this game. That's a low over under.
39:12>> It's it's 23 to 20 in that in that line.
39:15It's a lower one. I
39:16>> I think that the plan for the Raiders is
39:18play good defense, run the football 30
39:20times. That's the one area the Saints
39:22have been beat through two weeks. It's
39:2426.2 fantasy points given up through two
39:26weeks for the Saints. They have the
39:28workhorse in Genty to do that. And
39:30you've got Trey Tucker and hopefully
39:31Brock Bowers back in the equation.
39:33Fantasywise, play Genty. Play Bowers if
39:36he's active. play Tucker if you're
39:38desperate. Olive, of course.
39:42>> Vele would be
39:44>> I think Vle is a of course as a flex.
39:46>> Yeah, he's he's viable.
39:47>> Nine targets, seven targets. The volume
39:49will be there.
39:49>> And then the running backs, I don't know
39:51if you can play one.
39:52>> It's really really tough. The only way
39:54that I think you could play one is if it
39:57turns out that one guy is active alone.
40:00Like if because
40:01>> I feel like it's a trap.
40:02>> It feels like a trap. Kendra Miller did
40:05not practice, but it was illness and so
40:07he was inactive last week. I presume
40:10that that was because Alvin Chimera was
40:12active. So this is like kind of a like a
40:14roulette table where I'm like the ball
40:17is bouncing around and it could be
40:18Travis AJ Jr. is active or inactive.
40:21Kendra Miller is active or inactive and
40:23Alvin Kamar is relevant. Uh he is not a
40:27good enough player at this stage of the
40:29career to to put him in. I mean, he
40:32could he could literally touch the ball
40:3320 times and be a bad player.
40:35>> I was going to give you the the numbers.
40:36This is why it's a trap to me. If HN Jr.
40:38is out and you're like, maybe Chimera,
40:40Alvin Chimera had 15 opportunities last
40:43week.
40:43>> Incredible. How many targets?
40:45>> Uh, that includes six targets.
40:47>> Wow.
40:48>> The more valuable than carries. 15
40:51opportunities. And he put up 4.7 fantasy
40:54points.
40:55>> You You're not going to convince me that
40:57Kendra Miller gets more work than
40:58Chimera. That's for sure. And and
41:00>> no, but my point
41:01>> Kendrey Miller is like the only one of
41:03this group who could do anything.
41:04>> If Kendra Miller got eight opportunities
41:06and Alvin Chimera got 14, I would assume
41:09more fantasy points than Kendra Miller
41:11side. But I agree. I think you're hands
41:13off in the running back room right now.
41:14>> And we've talked extensively about Tyler
41:16Shuck. You can use the start set tool on
41:18the website, the fantasyfooters.com to
41:20throw in all these other quarterbacks.
41:21>> Janson,
41:22>> of course,
41:23>> Janson is Jans is fine. It's not I mean,
41:26I'd play
41:27>> it's not a plus matchup. I would just be
41:29chasing the higher overunders with the
41:31Johnson tier of tight ends.
41:33>> Sure.
41:34>> So like Mark, you're going Mark Andrews
41:36over Janson.
41:37>> I I'm okay doing that. Yeah, I like the
41:38targets there. I mean, it's
41:41it's been a a couple of big plays for
41:43Joansson so far. I mean, he's only had
41:45three catches and four catches and he
41:47had a huge run down the sideline and a
41:50touchdown in week one. I'm not taking
41:52anything away from the player. I just
41:53don't know if the targets are going to
41:54be where you want them to be.
41:56>> We'll take a break. We'll talk Sunday
41:57night, Monday Night Football, and we'll
41:59get into the fantasy faceoff.
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Rams at Broncos
43:30Paramount Plus.
43:34Well, this one should be fun. The Rams
43:36one and one taking on the one and one
43:37Denver Broncos. The Vegas line. The Rams
43:40minus two and a half
43:42>> in Denver
43:44>> over under 44 and a half.
43:49Uh Mike, you got Blake Corman as your
43:51start of the week. Kairen and Blake,
43:53you're playing them both.
43:54>> Yes.
43:55>> And then Puka, not expected to play
43:56again. Dvonte Adams was insane last
43:59week. He was uh 32% target share. Has a
44:0242% target per run with Puka off the
44:05field as a Ram. And yeah, you you know
44:08the equation here. I mean, Terence
44:09Ferguson is the fun, exciting,
44:11>> yes,
44:12>> upside secondary target
44:14>> because you saw nine targets. You saw a
44:17concerted effort to make him a focal
44:20point in the passing game that led to 14
44:21and a half fantasy points and a
44:23touchdown.
44:24>> And he dropped two big plays. Like he he
44:27should have had a bigger a bigger day.
44:29>> Yeah. I mean, he's he's super like it's
44:31sort of cheat codeesque because Ferguson
44:35really is like a big slot receiver and
44:38you get to play at tight end.
44:40>> Seems to be the rules. If if your last
44:41name is Ferguson
44:43>> and one of the top
44:45>> and one of the top wide receivers is
44:46out, then you're a great option for
44:48fantasy football.
44:48>> This is simple. Fantasy is so simple.
44:50>> Just look for the name Ferguson. M uh I
44:52would say so looking at him uh on
44:55sleeper what I am seeing is his roster
44:58percentage at 23%. So still still pretty
45:02widely available and I would agree like
45:04if you're in the Joan Johnson tier.
45:06>> Oh my gosh.
45:06>> And you get news that I mean
45:09>> I think it'd be pretty shocking at this
45:10point with what we're hearing that if
45:12Puka plays but once you get the official
45:14word that Puka is going to be out I
45:17would put Terren Ferguson in over
45:18someone like Jan.
45:19>> Ter Terren Ferguson must be rostered in
45:21every league. Like I to me if you
45:26you you look at like okay Sam Laaporta
45:28amazing great better offense I feel like
45:31there's more target you know
45:33opportunities here for for Ferguson or
45:35or Tyler Warren against Houston um
45:38Ferguson to me is like now that we know
45:40Puka's not playing and unfortunately I
45:42think when Puka comes back this isn't a
45:44rest of season just Terence Ferguson's
45:46going to be awesome he might be the
45:49receiver three for this team but the
45:51receiver or three is usually irrelevant
45:53for this team. The first two are pretty
45:55dog on good though. So, um, while either
45:58Z's out,
45:58>> and to clarify, Puka has not been ruled
46:00out.
46:01>> Yeah.
46:01>> Oh, I thought you said
46:03I thought you said he was definitely.
46:05>> That's what I was saying. We need the
46:06official words.
46:07>> We don't believe he will. I just want to
46:08be No, thank you. Nasty question for
46:11you, Jason.
46:11>> Ferguson v. Ferguson. By the way, if
46:13that's your matchup this week, I just
46:15want to see it on socials. I'd go
46:16Ferguson. Uh Terrence Ferguson
46:20or the Doctor
46:22Dalton Schultz.
46:23>> Yeah, I uh if
46:25>> make me an appointment,
46:25>> if Puka is out, then I think I would go
46:29Terrence Ferguson.
46:30>> Just chase the upside.
46:31>> Yeah, the the youth, the athleticism. Um
46:33and I think both are going to get a ton
46:35of targets.
46:35>> I I think the Broncos defense is what
46:37talks me into the other side of that
46:38one.
46:39>> Okay.
46:39>> I mean, last there's appointments
46:40available. I know a lot of people have
46:42been saying it's hard to get in last
46:43minute. They've been seeing the doctor
46:44lately.
46:45>> Yeah. But uh
46:46>> how about the other side with the Colts?
46:47>> How about the other side? The Broncos.
46:50>> I mean, Waddle is in.
46:52>> Man, we're starting less Broncos than we
46:54were before, aren't we? I mean, we Bon
46:56Knicks is no longer in the conversation.
46:58>> No, I think that's it. I I'm not the the
47:02>> running back room is a disaster of who's
47:05actually active
47:07and
47:07>> and Tyler Bedet will get work
47:09>> with whatever other dude gets activated.
47:12Right now, Dobbins is a full practice.
47:14Harvey's a full practice and Jonah
47:16Coleman's a DMP
47:17>> and you're playing the Rams.
47:19I'm not I think it's a trap to play a
47:22Broncos running back right now.
47:24>> Yeah, I I can't disagree. The Eagles are
Eagles at Bears
47:27two and0 taking on the Chicago Bears.
47:30>> Who are one and one.
47:31>> Oh man.
47:32>> Who have the third lowest fourth lowest
47:35implied point total of 18.5 this year.
47:37>> Wait, they were going to break the
47:39scoring record.
47:40>> Oh gosh. Philly minus 4 and a half over
47:42under 41 and a half.
47:45I mean, th this is just a pretty simple
47:49this is a bummer situation where you
47:51literally look at this game and you
47:52don't have to say anything fantastic
47:53about the Eagles offense to know they're
47:55going to win the game
47:57because I don't think Chicago can put up
47:59enough points. Now, maybe Ben Johnson is
48:00a miracle worker and Beijing and Keenum
48:03can find. I mean, they have weapons. I
48:05don't want to give them no chance, but
48:07it's four and a half road favorites.
48:09That's heavy.
48:10And you know, I don't think Manonga is
48:13going to play in this game. He's been a
48:14DMP two straight days. We'll see. We
48:17have a DMP for Tyson Begent, who is the
48:19better of the backups. He's actually
48:21shown the ability to like he'll take a
48:23shot downfield. He'll take a shot to
48:24the, you know, to the outside. I I don't
48:27know if Keenum still has it. It's just a
48:30bummer. No Caleb Williams in this game.
48:32Adun Burden Loveland. I don't think you
48:35want to go there against the Eagles.
48:37>> Not really. And
48:39uh it just sucks. It's like the air has
48:42come out of the sails here for Chicago.
48:44And you just have to be patient. Like
48:47>> to me, Lovelin's going to be okay this
48:49year.
48:49>> I I believe that. He's not He's not my
48:51my guy. I believe that as somebody who
48:54believes in the talent of Coulson
48:55Lovelin, the run that he had at the end
48:57of last year, and the fact that this is
48:59not an incompetent franchise that'll
49:00avoid getting the ball to one of the
49:02best players at the position. But I
49:04don't think it happens this week, and it
49:05might not happen for a few weeks.
49:06>> Yeah. I love Case Keenum. The dude, his
49:10last start was negative fantasy points
49:12and that was in 2023. He's 38 years old.
49:16>> I thought he was only doing the State
49:18Farm commercials.
49:19>> Yeah. I mean, yeah. Put in the backup.
49:21He He wasn't supposed to be the backup.
49:23He was the backup to the backup. He's
49:24like, "Ah, shoot." Um, he talked up Ben
49:27Johnson amazingly. Talked about how he's
49:29the the greatest. He's worked with so
49:31many great head coaches and this is the
49:33best offensive line he's ever seen. I'm
49:35sure they can scheme up some stuff, but
49:37Case Keenum, this version of him, I I
49:40agree, is just not going to be able to
49:42get it done. I know that the Eagles have
49:43looked not great, almost lost and
49:46probably should have lost to the
49:47Tennessee Titans last week,
49:49>> but Case Keenum at quarterback is going
49:52to be a I mean, it's just almost
49:54impossible. And Swift seems like, okay,
49:57he might be alone. You know, they
49:58they're going to need him. Another guy
49:59might not be active. and you're probably
50:02still starting him. But this is I mean
50:04you're going to have tough sledding. The
50:06the defense with Carter there, they're
50:08going to plug the line. They're going to
50:09play a ton of guys in the box. I don't
50:11expect um easy gains for Swift.
50:15>> No, it just lines up as a tough game for
50:17that offense altogether. On the other
50:19side, you have injuries all over the
50:20place. You have we lost Dallas, so he's
50:22not a part of the offense. Eli Sters is
50:25on IR and not going to be a part of this
50:26team, it seems like. So you're you're
50:29right now no tight end option. Saquon
50:32Barkley was the only running back the
50:34injured Saquon Barkley to practice.
50:36Shipley and Tank both out on Thursday.
50:38He was limited.
50:39>> The big waiver pickup son the old it's
50:41just like Jonah rope a dope.
50:43>> It's like Jon Coleman the guy that comes
50:44in with the opportunity gets hurt
50:46immediately.
50:46>> The starter is back
50:47>> and then did not practice Thursday.
50:49Devonte Smith the hamstring which by the
50:51way the hamstring is what bothered him
50:52preseason.
50:53>> I will say oh I didn't see that you
50:55didn't practice Thursday. I will say
50:57though it's Thursday, but this is the
50:58Monday night game. So that's like
51:00missing a Wednesday practice.
51:01>> Pay close attention.
51:02>> But yes, you need to be aware. Uh
51:06what what do you guys think of cuz so
51:09with you know the tight end situation
51:12and it being the the ever surviving
51:15Zachary who just keeps getting jobs,
51:18>> do you want to stash Mai Lemon more?
51:21>> Yeah, for sure. I think Mai Lemon is a
51:23great stash right now. I I went back and
51:25Watch the tape.
51:26>> I watched the tape.
51:27>> That made that convinced me.
51:28>> I watched the tape this last week and
51:30obviously bad game. He didn't do
51:32anything. He caught one pass, I believe.
51:34>> Better than week one.
51:35>> Yes. Better than week one. He was used
51:38everywhere. He lined up in the back
51:39field. He lined up in the slot. He lined
51:40up outside. He was, you know, running
51:43routes in in all three levels. He was,
51:45you know, leaking out for a screen. He
51:47was working the middle of the field. He
51:48was going deep. He was on the field and
51:51running routes. And he looked good. He
51:53was getting open. Um it just it didn't
51:56work. It didn't it didn't happen.
51:57>> I'm seeing on I'm seeing let me double
52:00check them on the Oh, that was the
52:01fourth quarter. So Lemon ran
52:05>> 80% of the routes.
52:06>> Oh, he was he that's full time totally
52:08out there more routes than Dantavian W.
52:10>> He's a good player and so to me that
52:13they need him a lot right now. And I I
52:15believe he will be super involved. He's
52:17a he's a good quality first round rookie
52:20wide receiver who's out there getting
52:22opportunities. It just hasn't happened
52:23yet.
52:24>> I also feel like Vle has gotten a lot of
52:26attention as a viable two. Well,
52:28>> the season's almost the exact same for
52:30Dantavian
52:31>> Wix. Absolutely.
52:32>> They've been they are averaging the same
52:33points per game. Targets target share.
52:35Both guys have been good. You need to
52:37think of Wix as a startable player.
52:38>> Absolutely.
52:39>> Wix or downs as the final question.
52:42>> I'll go Wix.
52:43>> I'll play Josh Downs. All right, let's
52:44jump into the faceoff.
Fantasy Faceoff + Wheel of Shame
52:51>> Fantasy Faceoff presented by Prize
52:53Picks.
52:58>> I think Jason's made it known, but he is
53:00sitting here with the Wheel of Shame
53:02once again. Maybe because of the guy
53:04that didn't perform last night.
53:05>> Hey, I can't lose again with Jordan Love
53:08this week, baby.
53:09>> Because he already played. So, uh,
53:10unfortunately for you, Jay, you got to
53:12spin it again.
53:17Wheel of shame.
53:24>> All righty, let's spin that wheel.
53:26>> Yes. Yes. Yes. You lucky lucky man.
53:29>> All right, what do we got? We got tow
53:31jam, clown nose, egg head.
53:33>> Polly.
53:34>> OH, PAULIE.
53:36>> OH, PAULIE wants Oh, no.
53:39>> Mike, do you want to crack? Mike, do you
53:41want to feed the hand the parrot?
53:44>> Let's bust open these saltines here
53:47>> so that you're equipped.
53:49>> Yeah, I'll take some.
53:50>> I'm just I'm probably just going to
53:52throw them at him. Um,
53:53>> no, I don't mean to mess with this,
53:55Jason. How big is your mouth hole?
53:57>> Uh, not not big enough for a cracker.
53:59>> Oh, we're just going to throw
54:01>> Oh my lord. This is Guys, this is this
54:06is a real problem. This
54:09>> I missed.
54:10>> Here you go, buddy. Here. Have a
54:11cracker.
54:12>> I want some crackers.
54:16>> Um, do you need to Does someone need to
54:18read your line for you?
54:20>> 100%. They have to read my line. I am
54:23about 30 seconds from death.
54:26>> You got some air holes. You're fine.
54:27>> I can have a cracker.
54:29>> I can breathe. I just can't see.
54:30>> Yeah, just have a cracker.
54:31>> Is this my nose? Is Am I eating through
54:33my nostril?
54:34>> You are eating through the side mouth.
54:35Yeah, the classic parrot side mouth.
54:38Oh, he's eating the crap.
54:39>> All right, start us off here.
54:41>> All right, I'm going uh my Green Goblin
54:42is quarterback Bryce Young. I'm taking
54:47159.5
54:48passing yards. I'm taking the more.
54:50>> All right, dude. Looking good, Jay. Uh I
54:53am guys,
54:56let's have some fun. Jameus Winston
55:0017 and a half passing completions and I
55:04will take the more.
55:05>> Okay, Winston completions. Yeah.
55:07>> I wonder what Jason's doing. Jay, do you
55:09have any idea what you're doing or do we
55:10have to figure this out?
55:11>> I have a couple different ideas. I made
55:13several lineups.
55:14>> Well, you got to go with the one you
55:15>> Why don't we throw it up on the board on
55:17the board? We'll read it for you. Jason
55:19has Daniel Jones less than 219.5
55:24passing yards.
55:24>> Oh, you hater. But that makes
55:26>> I think that this board is saving him
55:28today.
55:28>> The Texans defense um as well as the
55:31fact that he hasn't thrown for that so
55:33far this season. Uh, you know, um, it
55:35>> quiet parrot.
55:39>> All right, we are at running back. I am
55:42going to go with Blake Cororum. I'm
55:44taking
55:45>> Oh my, you're taking my stuff.
55:46>> 46.5 rushing yards. I'm taking the
55:48Moore. I actually had this one selected
55:50early in the week and it didn't move. So
55:52Blake Cororm more than 46 and a half
55:54rushing yards. I like it. What are you
55:56doing with your hands?
55:57>> I'm wiping crumbs and crackers off.
55:59>> Yeah, that's what you're doing. Um,
56:01>> in Bone Walker,
56:03>> Kenneth Walker.
56:04>> All right. What do you got?
56:05>> 86 and a half rushing yards. No problem.
56:09>> You're taking No problem for Kenneth
56:12Walker.
56:13>> All right, Jason, let's review. I've got
56:15Cam Scataboo. Why don't you say what my
56:17line?
56:18>> It is 57 and a half yards are projected
56:21for Cam Scaboo.
56:22>> You did good on that one.
56:22>> You're going more, huh?
56:23>> Yeah. You did a good You did good on
56:25that one.
56:26>> Have a cracker.
56:28>> This is nonsense. Oh, I love it. Um,
56:30>> I will say it looks like that game's
56:33going to be very rainy now, so that
56:35sucks.
56:35>> Oh, I mean,
56:36>> wait, what?
56:37>> Why would it Why would it suck for
56:40Winston?
56:40>> Yeah, that sucks for Jamus. It's great
56:42for running. All right, guys. I'm not
56:44all I'm not going to be kind with
56:45everybody. You're not going to like this
56:47one, but it's been working so far.
56:49>> Jamar Chase, 77 and a half receiving
56:52yards. I'm taking the less against
56:53Pittsburgh.
56:54>> I'm taking the less. Last week I I
56:57managed to get it with Trey McBride on
56:59his less.
57:00>> So I'm going Jamar Chase.
57:01>> I don't blame you. Um
57:04>> he has a cracker that's perched in the
57:05mouth.
57:05>> So you're telling me the Tennessee
57:07Giants game is going to be rainy, huh?
57:09>> Yeah.
57:11>> Yes, that's a bummer for Jamus and cuz
57:14then the Jaylen Coker news was also a
57:15bummer for me cuz I took the Ted
57:18McMillan 7 and a half receiving targets.
57:20I went more. Okay, that's
57:21>> cuz I thought I was going to be sneaky
57:23and get a
57:24>> Jaylen Coker.
57:25>> Not so sneaky. Why don't we reveal
57:26Jason's wide receiver?
57:27>> Jason's wide receiver is
57:28>> my Green Goblin.
57:29>> Oh, Almond Ross St. Brown, your Green
57:31Goblin. 32 and a half receiving yards.
57:33>> I told you guys before the show I was
57:35like I was like my Green Goblin feels
57:37like the easiest thing of all time.
57:39>> That's fun.
57:40>> Here you go.
57:40>> For you have a treat, Paulie.
57:42>> What do you got?
57:44>> All right, let's finish it up here. Um,
57:46maybe not a surprise. cuz I won't be
57:48shocked if I'm not alone with it. But
57:49I'm going Daltton Schultz. 50.5
57:52receiving yards. I'm taking the Moore.
57:54Yeah.
57:54>> With the doctor.
57:56>> We did okay last week, too, by the way.
57:58We didn't do too bad. Who you got at
58:00your tight end?
58:00>> We did. We did. All right. Uh my my
58:02tight end is my Green Goblin. I will
58:04take the Muth. Two and a half
58:06receptions. We will go more.
58:09>> Okay. I like that. Jason, let's reveal
58:11it. I like the rest of my Johnson.
58:13>> Joan.
58:14>> Oh, Jansson. 35 and a half receiving
58:16yards. You will take the more.
58:17>> Yeah, he's averaging 60 right now. And I
58:19like the game environment.
58:21>> I like it. Whoa, there. How do you still
58:23have more crackers?
58:24>> I just wanted to go through the whole
58:25crackers.
58:26>> It's so It's really fun to throw stuff
58:28at your friends. Uh, all right. That was
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58:43your game. You've really gone from uh on
58:46the edge of dying to enjoying being a a
58:48parrot.
58:49>> I don't know what's going on in the
58:50outside world, but I got crackers in
58:52here.
58:52>> Yes, you do. You do. We are going to say
58:55goodbye. Monday punday coming. Your
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