Week 5 Fantasy Rankings: Who should you start & sit this week? | Fantasy Focus

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0:12>> What's up friends? Welcome into fantasy

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0:16Mike Clay. My name is Daniel Dopp.

0:18Excited to dive into a very fun week

0:21five ranking show. A lot on tap.

0:24>> How you gentlemen doing today?

0:25>> Doing great, thank you. How are you?

0:27>> I'm doing great as well, Michael. I'm

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0:30>> Just fine.

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0:32>> That day's up. I think you're awesome.

0:34>> Thank you. You're great.

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0:55>> Yeah, you're right. All right, guys. We

0:57got a couple things we're going to dive

0:57into today. Week five rankings I talked

0:59about. We got a bunch of stuff we're

1:00going to talk about there. Some very fun

1:02things. We got two teams on buy. So, the

1:04first little bits of by weeks are now

1:05upon us. We got a random ranking at the

1:07end of the show that is always going to

1:08be a good time. Yep. We're doing some

1:09fantasy faceoffs. Last week it was me

1:12and Mike versus each other. Fields, you

1:13were the judge. This time it's going to

1:14be me and Field versus each other. And

1:16Mike is going to be the judge.

1:17>> I want to see which Daniel Dopp shows up

1:19because he evolved last week. He's very

1:21common kind at first and then he was

1:23kind of in the middle and the last you

1:24were screaming. So, it's like I didn't

1:26realize I was going up against the

1:27Terminator when I was going to be doing

1:28this. So, I realized that that's right.

1:30The most pragmatic, thoughtful fantasy

1:32analysts on the planet.

1:33>> Yeah, we got a little bit of news that

1:34we're going to get into before we dive

1:35into some rankings. Field Jate starting

1:37with one of the biggest quarterbacks we

1:38have in the league.

1:38>> Yeah, Lamar Jackson has a slim chance to

1:40play on Sunday night against the

1:42Falcons. Also reporting that this could

1:44be a multi-week absence. So, when

1:46there's reporting that it could be a

1:47multi-week absence, it makes you feel

1:49like the present week is very unlikely

1:52to happen. Tyler Snoop Huntley will uh

1:55take over as the quarterback if Lamar is

1:57out on Sunday night against the Falcons,

1:59the resurgent Falcons. Mike has already

2:01removed Lamar from the projection. So if

2:03you see a zero next to him, that is by

2:05design. The only player that this really

2:08impacts from a fantasy perspective is Z

2:10Flowers. Yeah. Now, how much of a

2:12discount can you put on Z Flowers when

2:14the guy's been absolutely electric when

2:15he has been playing? not enough for him

2:18to be outside of your fantasy lineups,

2:20but certainly the optimal version of Zay

2:21Flowers includes Lamar on the field.

2:23>> Yeah. Uh Hunt Le's passing in his

2:25career, the numbers haven't been that

2:26great. I looked at his 16 games or 17

2:29career games in which he's played at

2:30least 80% of the snaps. A total of 17

2:32touchdowns. Only 12 were passing. So 12

2:35passing touchdowns in 17 games. A little

2:37under 180 passing yards per game. We

2:39know he can add value with his legs.

2:40However, two of those games were last

2:42season. And check this out. So Z Flowers

2:44averaged 13.6 fantasy points per game.

2:46two fine games, one pretty good game,

2:48one average game. Uh Derrick Henry 32.6

2:52fantasy points per game. He had that one

2:53like four touchdown game.

2:56>> Yeah, I mean I think you you know I in

2:58the projections obviously the offensive

2:59projection for their scoring goes down a

3:01little bit, right? Naturally, you're

3:02known from Lamar Huntley, but they're

3:04going to give it to Henry as much as

3:05possible. He moved down a couple spots

3:07in my ranks, but he'll be fine. I'm with

3:09you. Uh Flowers and Derek should be

3:12fine.

3:13>> Just want to say that was awesome

3:14analysis. Thoughtful as usual. All very

3:16well put together. However,

3:18>> Oh, that's it. Thanks.

3:20>> Oh, well, that was really nice. By the

3:21way, I did get in my ear. Uh Keith

3:24Lipkcom wanted me to tell you guys that

3:25his name is actually pronounced former

3:27Pro Bowl quarterback Snoop Hunley. You

3:29didn't do the whole government name

3:31there. So,

3:31>> yes, my my apologies on Yes. Right. You

3:35guys remember uh just before my shoulder

3:38exploded on the beach at Baja Mar, I

3:40took a photo with a guy wearing a

3:41>> Oh, you Yeah, that's what that's in my

3:43head. I cannot think about that. Didn't

3:45Shur make it last year or who went

3:48>> make it last year? Yeah. Remember when

3:49Mac Jones prayed for like 70 yards? That

3:52was awesome.

3:52>> And you will not be surprised to learn

3:54that the Pro Bowl is now over.

3:55>> We're not doing it anymore.

3:57>> True.

3:57>> We jumped the shark and now it's over.

3:58>> You know who else isn't doing it

4:00anymore? Mike.

4:02>> Yeah,

4:02>> that was a lead in.

4:04>> Lane Johnson.

4:05>> Johnson.

4:05>> Uh yes. Shout out to Lane Johnson. What

4:07an awesome career. I mean, just one of

4:09the anchors of an elite, maybe the best

4:12offensive line play in the league over

4:14the past decade. I mean, they've been

4:15nothing. A shout out to that team, Jeff

4:18Stoutland, Howie Roseman, finding these

4:20players like Jordan Milada and putting

4:22that together. It seems like it's going

4:24>> the wrong way now. Obviously with Lane

4:26retiring, the injuries, Landon's on IR,

4:28and Cam Jurgens is hurt right now,

4:30Jordan Milada's getting older. Like

4:33those days might be behind us. The

4:34Eagles have a lot of work to do to fix

4:35things along that offensive line. And um

4:37this is going to affect things. It

4:38already has so far this season. Uh I

4:40didn't realize quite how bad their

4:42efficiency has been as a team this year

4:43because defense has underachieved a

4:45little bit too. If you combine offensive

4:47and defensive EPA, the Eagles are 31st

4:51in the NFL.

4:52>> 31st in the NFL, 27th offensively, 26th

4:55defensively.

4:56>> Titans ahead of them or Titans behind

4:58them, I guess I should say.

4:59>> I think uh is good question. Is it

5:01Miami? I thought it was Miami. Yeah.

5:04>> Yeah.

5:04>> But yeah, it's been it's been a rough

5:05go. Um, if you look at obviously this is

5:07going to affect offensive line play, you

5:09know, at some point they'll get Landon

5:10Dickerson back, but they're already

5:11ninth in pass block win rate this

5:13season, which is fine, but 27th in run

5:14block win rate. And that's the more

5:15notable one because we've seen that they

5:17they're really struggling uh to get the

5:19running game going. So, I'm concerned

5:21about this. I have major concerns about

5:22the Eagles due to poor offensive

5:24efficiency going back to last year, but

5:26also the injuries are just really piling

5:27up. Now, you lose Lane. It might be a

5:29long season for Philly.

5:30>> Yep. One quick thing from me. Uh,

5:33>> great analysis by Mike, by the It was

5:34great analysis. Nice. Great job,

5:36Michael.

5:36>> Agreed. Thank you.

5:37>> Seattle, are you just buttering up the

5:39judge for later on in the

5:41>> show? Why would you suggest that?

5:43>> All right. Interesting. Uh Seattle,

5:45really quickly, the old bait and switch

5:47made us think that maybe they were going

5:48to sign Joe Mixon. Surprise. No, they're

5:49not. It is still going to be Emanuel

5:51Wilson. He's ranked as a top 20 running

5:52back for us this week. The second most

5:54added player off of waiverss. So, for

5:56now, more short-term than long-term, but

5:58Emanuel Wilson going to stay in the

6:00low-end RB2 flex radar for us. foot

6:02injury that cost Joe Mixon all of last

6:04year. A very surprising, not surprising,

6:06but a very mysterious injury that cost

6:08him 2025 appears to still be a problem

6:11in 2026. I kind of assumed Joe Mixon was

6:13done playing professional football. Then

6:15this past week, it's like, oh, maybe

6:16not. The answer might be that yes, in

6:18fact, Joe Mixon's career could well be

6:21over.

6:21>> All right, let's dive into the week five

6:23rankings. We're going to start at the

6:24quarterback position. Hey, a reminder,

6:27we got two teams on buy this week. We're

6:29talking about the Carolina Panthers and

6:31the Kansas City Chiefs. So, no Patrick

6:33Mahomes, obviously, no Bryce Young, who

6:35has been fantastic to start the season.

6:371 through 10, we got Josh Allen, Joe

6:38Burrow, Jaden Daniels, Jared Goff,

6:41Trevor Lawrence, Matthew Stafford,

6:43Jacobe Brassette at seven, Dak Prescott

6:45at eight, and Drake May, and Brock Perie

6:47tied there at nine. Jacobe Br uh

6:49Brousette first time inside the top 10

6:53taking on the Detroit Lions in a great

6:56conversation right there. So he is a

6:58must start this week against the Lions

6:5911 through 20. Tyler Shuck, Kyler

7:01Murray, Jaylen Herz, Bo Nicks, Jordan

7:04Love, Deshawn Watson, Aaron Rogers, Sam

7:06Darnold, CJ Strad, and Tyson Beant. That

7:09rounds out the top 20. Jaylen Herz

7:11outside the top 12 again, guys. This is

7:14three straight weeks under 16 and a half

7:16fantasy points. Back-to-back bad weeks.

7:18Doesn't feel like it's going to get any

7:19better anytime soon, unfortunately.

7:21>> I I forget her name. I think it's Marie

7:23Quando. I bet our producer Addison

7:25knows. She had the Netflix the popular

7:26Netflix show where she would come in and

7:28she would organize your house.

7:30>> Yes.

7:30>> And if it brought you joy, you would

7:32keep it.

7:32>> Yes.

7:32>> And if it didn't, you would throw it

7:34away.

7:35>> Does Does Jayen Herz bring you joy to

7:37start right now? No. No.

7:38>> Not throwing him away as in going to the

7:40waiver, but like put him on the bench

7:42now is an easy way to think about the

7:43Jaylen Herz start sit conversation.

7:45>> Is Drake May still on the bench or did

7:47what he did last week elevate him into

7:49potential start?

7:49>> Trending him back up. Trending up is

7:51Drake May. The thing that I liked the

7:53most from Drake May, other than the

7:54fantasy points this past weekend, was

7:56that I thought that Drake May was

7:58allowed to weaponize his legs. He's an

8:00elite elite athlete for a quarterback.

8:03He can really do damage as he is now

8:05fourth in the NFL amongst quarterback

8:06rushing yards, fifth in quarterback

8:08rushing attempts,

8:10>> over 50 rushing yards last week. And

8:12they now draw the Raiders, which kind of

8:14a hard defense to figure out exactly how

8:17good they are or are not. uh they play

8:19the Dolphins, so 25% of their games this

8:22season have come against the Dolphins.

8:24That right away gives you some pause

8:25about how real they are or are not. The

8:28Chargers also on their ledger. That

8:30offense stinks. The Saints, a team that

8:32I think has offensive talent but gets in

8:34their own way. And the Chiefs, who put

8:36up 30 plus points against the Raiders

8:37last week, so they got the job done

8:39largely on the ground. The Raiders are

8:41middle of the pack. They are 16th in

8:43fantasy points per game allowed to

8:45opposing quarterbacks. All of these are

8:47round ways of me to say I don't exactly

8:49know that this is a defense that we

8:50should be scared of for Drake May. I

8:52also don't think this is like Drake May

8:54facing off against the Lions this

8:55upcoming weekend. Yeah. The most fantasy

8:57points scored by a quarterback in the

8:58four games so far this season. Tyler

9:01Shuck who had 23.8 in week three. Some

9:05of that was playing from behind what the

9:06Saints often do. Of note, P Drake May

9:10could well be down. Not just AJ Brown

9:12who's ineligible for, let's see, two

9:14another week. And it doesn't sound like

9:16he's going to play in week six, but

9:17we'll get to that in week six. But M.

9:19Collins, who we talked about is like

9:20maybe the Patriots wide receiver one or

9:22two last week. Yep. And he was along

9:24with Romeo Dobs until he got hurt.

9:26Doesn't sound like M. Holland would be

9:28available this weekend. So even against

9:30an okay defense, even without his

9:32weapons, I still think that Drake May

9:34deserves to be inside the top 10 of

9:36quarterbacks. And you'll love to see it

9:38because after this, Drake May does have

9:40a couple of very, very notable matchups

9:42for QBs. the Jets and the Bears amongst

9:45the teams around the corner for the

9:46Patriots.

9:46>> Yeah, love it. We hope that he would get

9:48through them first three games which

9:50were brutal matchups and he obviously

9:51struggled and kind of turned the corner

9:52against more palatable at the very

9:55minimum defenses and so far so good.

9:57That's one. Let's see if he could do it

9:58again this week. Don't think we're quite

9:59at the point where we can say, you know,

10:01Drake May if we re drafted quarterbacks

10:03right now would be quarterback two,

10:04three or four. But AJ Brown returns

10:07schedule I'm not saying softens up to

10:10the point where it was last year but

10:11just is a little more league average and

10:14Drake May could easily be a guy that we

10:16just stopped talking about where we rank

10:17him. It just assume that he's going to

10:18be somewhere in that first six to eight

10:20of QBs.

10:21>> Field and I are in a group chat with a

10:22bunch of Michigan men.

10:23>> Yeah.

10:24>> And uh Mike Clay is known as a perennial

10:27Jared Goff hater.

10:28>> Yes.

10:29>> Except for here in week five, it appears

10:31in which he's getting some flowers, my

10:32friend.

10:33>> Yeah. Uh, we talk about golf as not a

10:36line of block pretty much ever except

10:37for when we're streaming. You know, when

10:40we're streaming, Matt, do you have a

10:41question?

10:41>> Well, I was just going to say in that

10:42same group chat where the rest of the

10:44group calls you a Jared.

10:45>> I knew this was going to happen.

10:47>> I call you a handsome Jared Goff

10:49optimist and just generally kind.

10:53>> Okay.

10:54>> Wellented individual.

10:55>> I'm keeping score of compliments for

10:56later. So, four four nothing four

10:58nothing lead here for for Fields. I'm

11:01>> I'm not complimenting. I'm just stating

11:02facts. Wow.

11:03>> Well, hey, I like it. I keep track of

11:05this me mentally and uh on paper night.

11:07>> There's so many I can't keep track.

11:09Anyway, uh yeah, big uh big Jared Goff

11:12streaming fan. We talked, you saw Jacobe

11:14Brassette there, too. Both Goff and

11:15Brutet are streaming options this week.

11:17Uh first of all, Goff has been good

11:19lately. 19 plus fantasy points in three

11:21straight games, nine touchdown passes

11:23this year. Zero interceptions, so he's

11:25really protected the ball well. And the

11:27passing volume has been exactly what you

11:28need for him to hang in the streaming

11:30conversation. top five in pass attempts,

11:32completions, yards, and touchdowns so

11:35far. Those all seem to matter in fantasy

11:37last time I checked. So, pretty huge.

11:38Then, of course, Arizona, they've

11:40allowed the most passing touchdowns so

11:42far this season with 11. Also, 9.1 yards

11:46per pass attempt allowed. That is

11:47highest in the NFL. It has been brutal

11:50for that defense. off in a terrific spot

11:52in which would be one of the highest

11:54scoring games of all.

11:54>> I think it's important to think of the

11:56Cardinals defense very similarly to the

11:59Miami defense except that the Miami

12:02offense can't score at all and the

12:04Cardinals offense can score. So teams

12:07actually have to try throwing the

12:08football against

12:09>> even more pressure on them. No doubt.

12:10>> So it's it's better for the quarterbacks

12:12facing Arizona as opposed to the

12:15quarterbacks facing Miami as we have

12:16seen like Patrick Mahomes and the

12:18Chiefs. They ended up winning that game.

12:20Perhaps a little closer than we

12:22anticipated, but Mahomes didn't light it

12:24up because they barely had to throw the

12:26ball compared to where he was against

12:28Indianapolis the week prior to that.

12:30>> Yeah, I want to talk about Brock Perie

12:32if you guys don't mind because he's been

12:33unbelievable to start this season, but

12:35guess what? This week he gets the

12:36Seattle Seahawks. They have been really

12:39good against quarterbacks so far this

12:41year. Only one quarterback has topped

12:439.8 fantasy points. Not 19.8, 9.8

12:47fantasy points. Wasn't it Jacobe

12:49Brassette in week three?

12:50>> It was in fact Marcus Mariota.

12:52>> Oh, I'm sorry. That's right. He was

12:54>> threw for 186 yards and had three

12:56passing touchdowns. That's why there's

12:58not a single quarterback that has even

13:00thrown for 190 yards against them so far

13:02this year. They have been unbelievable.

13:04They have as many interceptions as a

13:06defense as they've allowed touchdowns to

13:08be thrown against them.

13:10>> So, it's been touchdowns are bust right

13:11now for quarterbacks. Luckily, Brock

13:14Perie has thrown multiple touchdowns in

13:16every single game so far this season.

13:18He's actually second amongst

13:19quarterbacks in total touchdowns. So,

13:22even though it's a really, really tough

13:23matchup, Brock Perie has been good

13:25enough that I think you can still roll

13:26with him here against the Seattle

13:27Seahawks. We're just lowering our

13:29expectations rather than having him as

13:30like a top fiveish guy. He's more like

13:33quarterback 8 to 10ish for us here. A

13:36low-end QB1, but still someone you can

13:37start against Seattle.

13:38>> I'll say it scares the heck out of me.

13:40>> Oh, of course it does. like to the point

13:42where eight out of like I I don't know

13:43that I feel and I have him as

13:45quarterback 11. I don't know how likely

13:46QB1 is for Brock Pury to finish like I

13:49don't mean specifically quarterback 11.

13:51I mean somewhere in that 8 to2 range. Do

13:53you guys recall Brock Pury in

13:55back-toback weeks during the fantasy

13:57playoffs last year finishing as QB1?

13:59>> Yes.

13:59>> And then you recall what happened

14:01against the Seattle Seahawks the

14:02following week?

14:03>> Yes.

14:03>> He got absolutely

14:05>> druged. Yes. He did like we called the

14:07anti Mike Clay like he was just awful in

14:09every way.

14:11as opposed to excellence and everything.

14:12>> I like when I get to put that line

14:13through the four lines to five now.

14:16Feeling good.

14:16>> So, yes. So, Brock Pury was not good

14:19like and and I know that things change

14:22from year to year

14:23>> and the Niners have some new pieces. The

14:25Seahawks have a few pieces on defense

14:27that either are playing bigger roles or

14:29are new entirely.

14:31>> Lot of familiarity between these two

14:33sides. Mike McDaniel, this will be Mike

14:35McDonald, excuse me, will be his fifth

14:38regular season match up against Brock

14:39Party and this the personnel is a huge

14:42part of it, but Mike McDonald knows how

14:44to scheme it up against this San

14:46Francisco 49ers offensive approach. So,

14:49I'm I'm I still have him as quarterback

14:5111. Yep.

14:52>> But he's the the I am scared of what the

14:56outlook could be or what the output

14:57could be on Sunday.

14:58>> Yeah. and Pertie's had some good

15:00historical games against Seattle and

15:02that includes 2024. He had 18 plus

15:04fantasy points in both. And in the first

15:05meeting last year, he had 16, but he had

15:07two interceptions in that game. So, he

15:09got 16 out of him. I mean, if you

15:10started any quarterback against Seattle

15:12and got 16, you were probably like, "All

15:13right, I'll take it." But not great. And

15:15then to your point, two games, including

15:16the playoff game, 5.2 points and 5.3

15:19points. So, it's it's a tough spot.

15:21Very, very high risk this week. four

15:23games into the season, Brock Perie is on

15:25the incredibly short list of

15:27quarterbacks that has actually delivered

15:28for you four straight weeks. So, that's

15:30the reason why I have confidence. But, I

15:32agree with you guys on all of the

15:33Seattle.

15:34>> We've said it though since week one when

15:36we still were talking about Drake May

15:37and all the other guys with hard

15:38matchups. Like,

15:40>> it's Josh Allen and he's on his even if

15:42you move him down, it's still to like

15:43the middle of QB1. That's as far as

15:45he'll go. But, everyone else is up for

15:47grabs for where you where you rank him

15:49depending on the matchup. Let's dive

15:50into some running back rankings here for

15:52week five 1 through 10. Jir Gibbs, Bjon

15:55Robinson, Jonathan Taylor, Derek Henry,

15:58Kairen Williams, Christian McAffrey,

16:00Ashton Genty, Javvante Williams, Chase

16:03Brown, and James Cook. That is 1 through

16:0510, 11 through 20. Aaron Jones, Bree

16:08Hall, Bucky Ivan, Jeremiah Love at 14.

16:11Disappointing he's not higher with how

16:12much he has been a part of that offense,

16:14but they've just given too much love to

16:16Al Tyler Algier as well, unfortunately.

16:18Jaylen Warren, Quinchon Judkins, DeAndre

16:20Swift, Bashel Tutin, and Emanuel Wilson

16:23with Cam Scataboo rounding out the top

16:2520 guys. That list does not feel great.

16:28And in case you didn't love that, you're

16:29going to love this one even more. 21

16:31through 30 at running backs Andre

16:32Stevenson, Tony Pard, David Montgomery,

16:35RJ Harvey, Omari, and Hampton has fallen

16:38all the way to RB25. Given the now what

16:42kind of seems to be a potential

16:43committee approach based on Mike

16:44McDaniel in the back field,

16:46>> just does not feel good. And they have

16:47Denver this week.

16:48>> And they have Denver. It's just really,

16:50really not great.

16:51>> Who do you guys want to start with?

16:52Field. Do you want to go with uh Bachel

16:53Tutin? Have we decided where who he is?

16:55>> Uh no. And that's kind of why I wanted

16:57to bring him up. I think he might just

16:59be the player that I feel the least grip

17:02on as far as what he is and how I should

17:05be ranking him in fantasy football.

17:06>> Yeah.

17:07>> So, I've just kind of put him in the

17:08middle of the running back.

17:09>> Yep.

17:09>> So, RB1 17 is the consensus rank and I'm

17:12at RB19. Um let's look at some of the

17:15indicators. 50.7% of the snaps.

17:19>> Not ideal.

17:20>> Not ideal, right? That's okay. Like

17:21that's you're you're

17:22>> not for a lineup block running back.

17:23>> No, you're off the field as much as

17:24you're on the field basically.

17:26>> Crazy volume in the passing game.

17:28>> Nope.

17:29>> Negative.

17:30>> Guaranteed to get goal line

17:31opportunities?

17:32>> Nope. Also a negative.

17:33>> Um, but there are some good things here.

17:35There are some things we like. You know,

17:36he's run the football effectively this

17:38year, especially compared to last year.

17:39His yards per attempt is up nearly a

17:42full yard. It's up from 3.7 to 4.6 six

17:45so far this season. And you guys

17:47probably recall in one of the reasons

17:48why Toutton was this trendy, buzzy

17:51player leading into the draft is what he

17:53lacked in size. He made up for in speed

17:56and explosiveness. And it's like this

17:58guy is a home run waiting to happen.

18:00Well, last year he had a 10 plus yard

18:03run in three out of 17 games played. So,

18:06I wouldn't exactly say he was much of a

18:07home run hitter for Jacksonville last

18:09year.

18:09>> Sure. still hasn't ripped off some, you

18:12know, 55 yard touchdown run for them

18:14this season, but he does have a 10 plus

18:17yard run in every game this year. So,

18:19we're at least trending up seeing a

18:21little bit more of the explosive runs

18:22from Tuton. Running better just in

18:24general. And running back feels

18:27disastrously thin this season. I know we

18:30talk about it all the time, and I'm

18:32probably being a prisoner of the moment,

18:34>> but this one feels this this year feels

18:37really gnarly. I mean it's like yeah

18:40what what point on that list and I

18:42understand we have no Chuba Hubard and

18:43no Kenneth Walker III. Yep.

18:45>> But if we had Toutin at 17 and we all

18:48are aligned like that doesn't feel

18:49great.

18:50>> How far down the list do you have to get

18:52before the the part where you're like

18:55>> it doesn't feel great occurs?

18:56>> I think I texted you guys Monday when I

18:58was doing my first run and it was like

18:59RB 10 or nine. After that you're like

19:02this could be this next guy could be 11

19:04or 28. Like I it's it's pretty gross.

19:06It's a gigantic tier of a lot of guys

19:08that have a lot of problems right now.

19:10>> Like running back 11 to your point you

19:13said.

19:13>> Mhm.

19:14>> Is Aaron Jones this week? Like do you

19:16really feel like Aaron Jones is a

19:18borderline top 12 running back? Like

19:21this week with the matchup, but like

19:22does he give you does the name Aaron

19:24Jones give you that kind of satisfaction

19:26as a fantasy man?

19:27>> The name doesn't, but the 25 touches

19:29I'll have against a bad Saints defense

19:30will. So that's why he is that high. But

19:32yeah, some of the names behind him are

19:33like, man, I wish we could rank Love

19:35higher. I wish we could rank Judkins

19:36higher and so forth and so on. Emanuel

19:38Wilson's in our top 20 this week because

19:40of the volume he's getting. But I do

19:42want to make one more point on Ton,

19:43which is

19:44>> this is going to def this is what's

19:45going to define his season, I think. So

19:47far this season, Jacksonville has

19:49trailed on 2% of their offensive snaps.

19:51>> Yeah.

19:52>> 2%.

19:53>> So he's already been off the field half

19:56the time and they and they don't have to

19:57throw the ball very much. So what

19:59happens in more competitive games? Is he

20:00going to be out there? Well, if they

20:02have to throw more, maybe he does get an

20:03extra target or two and he's fine in

20:05fantasy on top of what he's doing as a

20:07rusher. But that rushing volume will

20:08come down in those circumstances. But if

20:10there are more competitive games and

20:12they're throwing out Laquent Allen and

20:15Air Abdul, who by the way are already

20:16playing, they're using four running

20:18backs, it's going to be a big problem

20:19for Tuton's. He's just going to have too

20:21many dud weeks right now. He's really

20:22relying from an a bonus basically of

20:25like three or four carries a game

20:26because they're always ahead. They're

20:27just always ahead or tied in games. So,

20:30that's what's going to kind of determine

20:31him. I agree. For now, he's a backend

20:33RB2. And that's why he's not a lineup

20:35block for me right now. Most weeks

20:37there's four, you know, two running two

20:39running two uh starting running backs

20:40because of buys and then multiple

20:42running backs as injuries out this week.

20:44That obviously boosts them a little bit.

20:45>> Much like Aaron Jones so far this

20:47season, Mike, you've been great on

20:49fantasy focus. So, do you want to dive

20:51into Aaron Jones? Six nothing. Terrible.

20:53>> This is getting out of control.

20:54>> Seriously.

20:56Go ahead.

20:56>> So one-sided. So one-sided. My turn.

20:59Yes.

21:00>> All right. I'm gonna talk about uh Aaron

21:02Jones. Hey, you just brought him up.

21:04Well done. Well, I'm gonna give you a

21:05point just for uh seamlessly.

21:07>> Thank you.

21:08>> Seamlessly getting right to that.

21:09>> I appreciate that. I got one.

21:10>> Well done. Uh Aaron Jones last three

21:12games. Here's his touches and his yards.

21:14Keep in mind, no. Jordan Mason 23 for

21:16105, 22 for 92, 24 for 198 in his most

21:20recent game. Also had a touchdown back

21:22in week one. So, he's been solid so far.

21:25We sort of saw this coming after week

21:28one. We said, "Look, Aaron Jones is in

21:29his 30s. He's can't do this all season.

21:31But the next month, while Mason's out,

21:32they're probably going to run him out

21:34there maybe 80% of the time." And that's

21:36exactly what has happened. He has 37

21:38carries and 14 targets just over the

21:40last two weeks. If that's not enough to

21:42get him in the RB1 conversation, he

21:44draws the Saints who have allowed the

21:45most yards and touchdowns and fantasy

21:48points to running back so far this

21:50season. They they've allowed 25 plus to

21:52three running backs already. Both

21:54Robinsons last week and then DeAndre

21:56Swift earlier this season. also gave 17

21:58to RJ or uh to Derrick Henry. Also gave

22:0121.7 combined to the two Raiders running

22:04backs. So kind of had I think Mike

22:05Washington scored that week, so they

22:07were kind of even. But uh great matchup,

22:09great volume. How do you not chase us

22:12this week?

22:12>> So my

22:15good try. Good try, bud. Good try. Good

22:18try.

22:19>> Thank you.

22:24>> Yes.

22:25>> So good, Michael. Oh my gosh. Incredible

22:28analysis on Aaron Jones.

22:30>> Thank you. Thank you. It's an honor.

22:31>> Almost vermped at how good that was.

22:33>> That was a lot. I'm giving you a two

22:34point.

22:34>> That's a two point for clamp.

22:35>> That's a two-pointer. Six to three. We

22:37got a b.

22:38>> So yeah, when you do the slow clap into

22:39the verclempt, it's it's always worth

22:41two points. Yeah.

22:42>> Uh question for you guys, and I I don't

22:44think you can pull this off because we

22:46just talked about how gnarly running

22:48back is, but

22:49>> I think Jordan Mason's back in the next

22:51week or two.

22:52>> Yeah. And that'll change things.

22:54>> Change it enough. Do you take your

22:56opportunity to sell high on Aaron Jones?

22:58>> Absolutely. If you have the ability, if

22:59someone needs him,

23:01>> if someone without Ken Walker is looking

23:03for a running back this week and you

23:04think maybe you could just, you know,

23:05>> pretty interesting.

23:06>> I would value him as like a fringe RB2,

23:09maybe a flex, I would say something

23:11along those lines, that's what I would

23:12view him as. So yeah, if you can get

23:13more than that, especially if someone's

23:15really desperate at running back, I

23:17mean, look, it's a weekly game. You want

23:18to use them this week, but I mean, the

23:20wheels could fall off at any time. And

23:22once Mason's back, his value is going to

23:23take a big hit.

23:24>> Quick question. Have the wheels fallen

23:25off DeAndre Swift? No,

23:26>> I don't think so.

23:27>> Okay, cuz when you look at his box score

23:29and if you're just a box score looker,

23:30it doesn't feel great.

23:31>> Okay, tell us more.

23:32>> RB5 week 1, RB 16, week 2, RB 22, week

23:37three, RB 37, week four. Only one game

23:41over 12.9 fantasy points this year. It's

23:43not great. That was that week one 59

23:45point barrage. But here's the thing that

23:46you love.

23:48>> He's still eighth in touches. He's still

23:4910th in scrimmage yards. He's fourth

23:52amongst running backs with eight carries

23:54inside the five yard line. He is getting

23:56goal line touches. I understand that

23:58this is one of those situations where

23:59like last week he fumbled the ball, they

24:02went with the hot hand. I think this is

24:04part of the things it hasn't worked out

24:06quite the same way that Ben Johnson did

24:07it in Detroit. But I do think that there

24:09will be weeks where if Kyle Manung is

24:11cooking the same way that David

24:12Montgomery was some weeks, they're just

24:13going to let him roll until there's a

24:14reason not to. So you may be kind of

24:16picking and choosing. DeAndre Swift is

24:19still the RB-1 in this backfield. They

24:21utilize him that way. They think about

24:22him that way. Regardless of what you see

24:24in the box score, I still think he's the

24:26RB1. And by the way, even though one

24:27running back has topped 15 fantasy

24:29points against the Packers, it was

24:30Bejian with 35.3.

24:33They've still allowed, even only the one

24:35running back has topped 15, they've

24:36allowed eight total touchdowns to

24:38running backs so far. Second most in the

24:40NFL, and the third most rushing yards to

24:42running backs. So, this is a really nice

24:44potential bounceback opportunity for

24:46DeAndre Swift. Yeah, I think the only

24:47risk with Swift is if they decide, look,

24:49Kyle Manungai is the hot hand for real

24:52now and he's going to just take control

24:54of this backfield as a rusher. Swift

24:55isn't going anywhere though. He's going

24:56to have a role and he'll be involved

24:58certainly in passing situations, but

25:01>> you know, there's a chance that they're

25:02like they even it out a little bit more.

25:04Kind of what everyone wants to happen

25:05with the Rams, right? Like we want more,

25:07everyone wants more Blake Horm. I don't

25:09think that's correct, but I mean that's

25:10what everyone's kind of been fishing

25:12for. But we did see in Carolina last

25:13year. Granted, Hubard was a little beat

25:15up, but that's Rico Dattle was the hot

25:16hand and they just rode him a little bit

25:18more. That's the only risk I think with

25:20Swift, but he's not going he's not going

25:21to disappear. He's going to remain at

25:23least 50/50. I think I'm wondering if

25:25like a good

25:27>> I think butter would be a good new

25:28nickname for you.

25:30>> Say it's just so

25:31>> so smooth. I knew you could.

25:32>> Right. It's it's both. It's it's

25:33articulate. It's smooth.

25:35>> Before we move now, he's going too far.

25:37I might have to

25:37>> Before we move on to wide receivers,

25:38let's do a quick check-in in the control

25:40room very fast. Uh because we got

25:42something going on in there really

25:44quickly.

25:44>> Oh, it's we're up to seven.

25:46>> Wow. We got the counter.

25:47>> Wow. Overly gratuitous compliments.

25:49We're at seven right now for field.

25:51Okay. Okay. All right.

25:52>> Only two for Daniel. I'd give him three

25:55because uh

25:55>> Well, one of them was a

25:56>> one was a a two-parter. Yeah.

25:58>> Appropriately a good two is how I would

26:00kind of rank it myself.

26:01>> You have time, Daniel. It's 10:26. You

26:03have That's great.

26:04>> You have about 10 more minutes, I would

26:06say. We

26:06>> new cologne, by the way.

26:07>> Let's dive into wide receivers. Wide

26:09receivers 1 through 10 here in week

26:11five. Fuka Nakua, wide receiver number

26:13one. He came back last week, guys.

26:14Looked pretty good at football.

26:15>> I thought other than Mike, I thought it

26:17was the best performance of the week.

26:18>> Dang it. I can't set you up like this.

26:21>> Jackson Smith and Jigba, Jamar Chase,

26:23Ammon St. Brown, Sidi Lamb, Justin

26:25Jefferson, Chris Olive, Drake London,

26:27and Nico Collins with Michael Wilson.

26:29That rounds out your top 10. A

26:31unbelievable list of studs. 11 through

26:3320. Zay Flowers, Devonte Adams, Garrett

26:36Wilson, T. Higgins dealing with that

26:38adductor injury. Still dayto-day feeling

26:40good about it though. Malik Neighbors,

26:43Parker Washington, Christian Watson,

26:44George Pickkins, Carnell Tate, and

26:46Matthew Golden. That rounds out your top

26:4820 21 through 30. Terry McLaren, Mike

26:50Evans, DJ Moore. Still awaiting word on

26:52what he's going to be for this week.

26:54Obviously dealing with that shoulder

26:55injury that has been aggravated uh this

26:57last week. Luther Burden at 24. DK

27:00Mechaf, Jaylen Wadd, Josh DS, Denzel

27:02Boston, J Mo, and Debo Samuel rounding

27:05out the top 30.

27:06>> There you go. Debo Samuel has 15 or more

27:08fantasy points in three of his four

27:10games this year. Doesn't really feel

27:12sustainable, but he's looked really

27:14good. So, he's in that flex radar this

27:16week.

27:16>> Yeah. One of those games he had zero

27:18targets for 80 yards.

27:19>> Exactly. He's had some weird things.

27:21>> Such a great point. Like I was I

27:22couldn't quite remember what the stat

27:24was, but Mike as always joining on.

27:26>> Talk about George Pickkins. This is my

27:28favorite show of the season.

27:30>> Uh we'll discuss this game in more dep

27:33from now on.

27:34>> Yes, I'll bet you are. I'll bet. George

27:36Pickins games coming tomorrow night.

27:37>> You think so? I think so. That's the

27:38unlock.

27:39>> I I am That's the That's the what? The

27:41>> unlock.

27:42>> Unlock. Okay. The unlock. I don't know

27:44if that was like a betting lock kind. Is

27:46that like a thing kids say or something?

27:48>> No. We're just finally unlocking George

27:50Pickings in 2026 for

27:52>> Sounds like something they would say

27:53though. We're doing like you're the

27:55unlock. What is that? I don't know what

27:57that means.

27:58>> Did I just If

27:59>> you say it, I know it's cool.

28:00>> Did I just start a trend? No. Dang it.

28:01Did Mike start it?

28:03>> I think you did.

28:04>> Go ahead. Yeah, you you said it.

28:05>> George Pickkins game's coming tomorrow

28:06night. Some of the just like just the

28:09the straight

28:11just the the brass tax of it all is is

28:13is solid. Ninth in routes run, 24th in

28:16targets, 22nd in receptions, 28th in

28:18receiving yards. I feel like George

28:20Pickkins has had a bottom five

28:22percentile outcome of what his season

28:24could be through four games. I agree. So

28:26far this year, I think this is a balance

28:29of CD Lamb is amazing and also George

28:32Pickkins just getting weirdly unlucky.

28:35He has only one end zone target and

28:37that's got to change. He's George

28:38Pickins. He's gigantic. He is massive

28:40and deserves more opportunities near the

28:42end zone. They play the Buccaneers

28:44tomorrow night. Is anybody scared of

28:46this Buccaneers team at all?

28:48>> No, not at all. The Buccaneers have

28:49allowed a wide receiver to reach 20 plus

28:51fantasy points in two separate games

28:53this year. And it's not like they played

28:55a bunch of like juggernaut offense over

28:57the last weeks. They faced Cleveland,

28:59Minnesota, and Green Bay. And they have

29:01allowed a wide receiver to get to 20

29:03plus fantasy points in two of those

29:05three games. So I ain't worried about

29:07the Buccaneers. George Pickkins making

29:09his mark tomorrow night. I think the

29:10Pickins revenge tour begins on Thursday.

29:12>> Is it the last two weeks that we So last

29:15week obviously CD Lamb had 21 targets.

29:17Basically was the entire offense. Was it

29:19the week before that that Javvante had

29:20three touchdowns?

29:21>> He had three touchdowns this past game.

29:23>> This past game. Okay. Oh, it was both of

29:25them together. I did not realize

29:26>> honestly like between if you take the

29:28aggregate dominance from Javvante

29:30Williams and CD Lamb, it just reminds

29:32you of like a daily output from my

29:35>> Wow, we're up to 10. Ding ding ding ding

29:37ding ding ding.

29:38>> Yeah,

29:38>> you're not you're not you're not going

29:39to come back on.

29:40>> I don't think so. Roughly you're playing

29:42at a dis I I can be bought. So, this is

29:44a problem.

29:44>> I can be bought.

29:45>> This is a problem. This is a problem for

29:47you. Uh did you get my gift card by the

29:49way before the show? I didn't get that

29:50yet. Oh, you can just give me stuff out

29:53of your wallet if you want. Why don't

29:54you go?

29:55>> Why don't you talk about Carnell Tate?

29:56>> Yeah, Carnell Tate. A very quiet,

29:58concerning start to this season. Not not

30:00his fault necessarily, but um very quiet

30:02start,

30:04>> but uh trending. Hold on.

30:06>> Why do you carry so much cash in your

30:08pocket, Daniel?

30:10>> Dude, this is great. You're getting lots

30:12of points for these.

30:13>> What? Why do you have so much cash?

30:15>> $60. How many points is $60 worth?

30:18>> One of us is a is a baller. That's why

30:20uh this is what he walks with. How many

30:23points is this worth? We got to figure

30:24this out.

30:24>> 12.

30:25>> So, I'm going to run the numbers.

30:25>> 912.

30:26>> One more than however many I have.

30:28>> Yeah, whatever it is. Anyway, uh Carnell

30:30Tate fellas, uh 6 for 58 on nine targets

30:33against the Giants two weeks ago and

30:34then comes out big time against the

30:36Ravens. Nine for 145 on 12 targets.

30:38That's what we want to see out of a top

30:40five draft pick in the NFL draft. His

30:43target share now is just a hair under

30:4430%. It's ninth in the entire NFL. 43%

30:48in week.

30:49>> The main concern with him going forward

30:51is will he find the end zone? Is this a

30:53guy that's going to have two touchdowns

30:54by season's end?

30:57He has zero touchdowns so far. He has

30:59one end zone target and his expected

31:00touchdown total even with all that

31:02volume is 0.8. We need more work near

31:04the goal line if he's going to get his

31:06game to the next level. I do have the

31:09Titans receivers with the easiest

31:10remaining schedule. This is based on the

31:12first month of the season. Love that.

31:13>> So uh more on that I think tomorrow. But

31:16um that's appealing for Tate. Uh and

31:19they're playing Houston this week who

31:20generally or usually we would think this

31:22would be a brutal matchup. It has not

31:24been so far.

31:24>> Fantasy points on wide receivers

31:26>> the most. 44.6 per game. They've allowed

31:29at least 18 fantasy points to a receiver

31:31in every game so far this season. So

31:34Carnell Tate, you just have to look at

31:35the facts. Four weeks in.

31:37>> That was great.

31:37>> This is a matchup that can be had. The

31:38Texans are struggling.

31:40>> Tate should be locked in.

31:42>> Last night you actually sent an email

31:43with your strength to schedule. I drew a

31:45real nice bubble bath and had a nice

31:47glass of savvi bee and I I actually just

31:49read through the PDF and it was

31:51>> Isn't that PDF cool though?

31:52>> Intoxicating. Yeah,

31:53>> it really is. It was really dope.

31:55>> Check it out. I uh posted posted it on

31:56Twitter yesterday. It's on the website

31:58espn.com. It has just like the main

32:00charts, all six positions. Yeah, it's

32:02their strength of schedule so far

32:03through four games and then the rest of

32:04the season. Uh but if you click the PDF,

32:06it expands to every week so you can look

32:09at each week of the season and what it

32:10looks like. So, I think it's I think

32:12it's pretty cool. I agree. And we'll uh

32:13we'll talk about it more later this

32:15week.

32:15>> Mike Clay NFL is the handle. And if we

32:17get Mike to 5 million followers on

32:20Twitter, I'll pay off his mortgage.

32:21>> Yes. 5 million.

32:23>> Okay. How long do I have to do that by

32:25the end of this? Come on, give me

32:26followers.

32:28>> You still one mortgage?

32:30>> No.

32:32>> Different. Not out of preference.

32:33>> Okay, let's not out of preference.

32:35>> Matthew Golden, guys. I'm going to talk

32:36about him. Matthew Golden has been great

32:38so far this year. Ninth in targets. like

32:41ninth in targets. 126 127. Little bit of

32:44a yo-yo situation there, but four

32:46straight games with Yeah. four straight

32:49games with six plus targets. We will

32:50take that every single week. Two weeks

32:52as a top 20 wide receiver. Both of those

32:54weeks had over 15 and a half fantasy

32:55points.

32:57>> We kind of talked about it was more

32:59narrative,

33:00>> but when we came into the season with

33:01all the stuff that was happening with

33:02the running backs, it's like, are the

33:03running backs bad enough that Jordan

33:05Love does eventually just have to throw

33:06a bunch? Turns out that's sort of what's

33:09happening. Yeah.

33:10>> Running backs are like a like a big old

33:12plate of dirt.

33:13>> Big old pile of mushrooms.

33:15>> I've never met a mushroom I could like.

33:17I've never met a Packers running back I

33:18can like.

33:19>> Wow.

33:19>> But I am in

33:20>> like I'm on green back

33:21>> on Bath. That's fair. You didn't grow up

33:23a Lions fan. I

33:24>> also

33:25>> am still in on Matthew Golden and

33:27Christian Watson with the target share

33:29and with the way that that offensive

33:31line is playing, which is not great by

33:32the way. I think part of why I like

33:34Matthew Golden a little bit more than

33:36Christian Watson is because he's just

33:38peppered maybe potentially closer to the

33:39line of scrimmage with some easy stuff

33:41that that he can use with his uh do some

33:43yak stuff with. So I like Matthew Golden

33:45this week. I think he's a option for us

33:47here as a flex consideration.

33:48>> Yeah, Packer's third heaviest offense so

33:50far to your point.

33:51>> Pass heaviest.

33:52>> Third, what did I say? Third heaviest.

33:53Yeah, they have some big offensive big

33:55>> guys. Well, Christian Watson's a big

33:56guy. Uh yeah, third sorry. Third pass

33:58heaviest offense so far.

33:59>> Yeah, it's Don't worry, we all make

34:00mistakes. I make many more than you do,

34:02but it's very rare for you. So,

34:04>> yes, fair. Thank you.

34:06>> Matthew Golden, also my four-year-old's

34:07favorite NFL player.

34:08>> Seriously.

34:10>> Are you guys familiar with K-pop Demon

34:11Hunters?

34:12>> Yes, a little bit. Yeah.

34:13>> Yeah. They have the big hit. Golden is

34:15the song plays pretty much every car

34:17ride. Yeah.

34:18>> I asked my I asked her what her favorite

34:20color was when we were I was trying to

34:22>> Did she say golden?

34:23>> She said golden pink.

34:25>> Oh, okay. Golden pink, naturally.

34:26>> Golden pink is a color.

34:28>> Is it?

34:28>> I I think that counts. Well, if she had

34:30just said golden,

34:31>> that would have been not right.

34:32>> Yeah, but golden and pink.

34:34>> Golden pink counts.

34:35>> Okay.

34:35>> Um

34:35>> or gold and pink.

34:37>> Both could also

34:38>> that's two colors.

34:39>> Yeah, that's good. It's okay. Have you

34:41never met a child?

34:43>> They not very few are just like

34:44>> every day. Very few are just like

34:48>> green. It's like well blue and and pink

34:51and you know it's usually multiple which

34:53is fine. Rainbow. My my daughters is

34:55rainbow which is all the color.

34:56>> That's fair.

34:56>> Yeah.

34:57>> I met my son when he was 15. He doesn't

34:59talk to me about his favorite color for

35:01what it's worth. A more sophisticated

35:03conversation.

35:04>> It's something different than we talk

35:05about. Let's dive into some tight ends.

35:07Oh, no. Actually, we're going to do the

35:08mailbag first, guys. Before we do that,

35:10shout out to our buddy Eric Moody.

35:11Follow him on social media, Eric Mmoody.

35:14First question comes from Fire Stick

35:16wants to know start to PPR League,

35:19Quinchon Judkins, Jeremiah Love, or

35:22Emanuel Wilson this week, guys.

35:24>> This one's pretty straightforward.

35:25>> Yeah, I agree.

35:26>> Quinchon Judkins and Love Jeremiah Love.

35:28I agree and I'm a Wilson apologist just

35:31because of the situation, but I would

35:32still lean to toward the other two guys.

35:33>> I would too. I would too.

35:35>> Good answers, Mike.

35:36>> Thank you.

35:37>> All right, next one here from our chat.

35:42>> Regal Desert Eagle. There you go. Thank

35:44you, Field.

35:45>> No problem, Mike. Mike told me what to

35:47say.

35:47>> Yes. Coulson Loveland.

35:49>> Joe Farterson this week, guys.

35:51>> Not Joe Farterson. Not enough targets at

35:53all. We're going Coulson Loveland.

35:55Finally.

35:56Well, like at this point with Lovelin,

35:57we're like, that's a passable day. We'll

35:58take that. At least Caleb gets back.

36:00Then we need some big games. But for

36:01now, we'll take passable. And we got

36:02that last.

36:03>> Give me what we got last week.

36:04>> Yep. Agree.

36:05>> That's it.

36:05>> All right, one more. We got another one.

36:06This one comes from Bert Mlin FBI.

36:08>> Should I be worried about Cam Scatabo

36:10usage? Well, field.

36:13>> I just made a trade for Cam Scataboo in

36:14the in the 16 team war room league.

36:16>> Oh, yeah. What' you do?

36:17>> Parker Washington for

36:18>> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

36:19>> Which um

36:20>> I I'm not trying to justify the trade. I

36:23just want to give the context. My team

36:25uh has Travis Han as our RB2 which he

36:28wasn't good but at least he was a warm

36:29body. Um

36:30>> you need a running back.

36:31>> Need a running back badly. So we are

36:33able to stem the tide at wide receiver a

36:36bit with Devon Vele as our fourth wide

36:38out or our flex. He steps into that

36:40role. Scatter replaces the husk of

36:42Kendre Miller. Um Scott was I mean I

36:46obviously I thought long and hard about

36:47this because I had the deal this

36:48morning. He's 10 10 catchers through

36:50four games. That's a totally passable

36:51number, but it's two games with four

36:53targets and two games with one target.

36:55>> Uh schedule next week is great. They get

36:57the Saints. Mike just mentioned how bad

36:58of a match

36:59>> next week. Next week this week,

37:00>> I think I'm fine with with Scataboo. I

37:02think he's fine. I like certainly not

37:03the player that he was last year. I

37:05don't think the usage is just concerning

37:06though. Like he's still getting

37:08>> what 15 carries a game. And

37:09>> yeah, a lot of opportunities.

37:11>> It's kind of like Ton in a worse offense

37:13so far because he's not getting goal

37:14line work. The efficiency hasn't been

37:15there. Three and a half yards per carry.

37:16But a lot of that is they're just

37:18grinding him between the tackles. Like

37:19they have to we need more bigger plays.

37:21But uh just two carries inside the five.

37:23That's why he only has one touchdown. If

37:24we start getting touchdowns and I'd like

37:26to see the passing game usage be a

37:28little more consistent. It's not it's

37:29been kind of all over the map.

37:31>> That would help. Um

37:32>> but they they do draw Washington.

37:34They've been kind of quietly good

37:35against running backs. Jonathan Taylor's

37:36the only one to get to 11 against them.

37:38So that's for this week. But um I yeah,

37:41I guess to answer the specific question,

37:43not super worried, but he's fine. looks

37:45more like a mid-range RB2 at best at the

37:48moment. Maybe we can get more out of

37:49him, though.

37:50>> It's weird because like in Jacksonville,

37:52I I sort of understand the Chris

37:53Rodriguez getting goal line touches

37:55because he's a big powerful, right?

37:57>> In in New York, it's like, man, I don't

37:59we don't really like seeding goal line

38:01carries to Naji Harris, right? Like

38:03whatever's left of Naji.

38:04>> I was just going to say the you use the

38:05term like what the husk of Naji Harris.

38:07>> Yeah. Part of that is the fact that

38:09Scataboo is 10th in the NFL in carries.

38:11Like they are just giving it to him as

38:12much as they possibly can between the

38:1420s, I guess. So, it's a tricky one.

38:16>> Let's talk about some tight ends.

38:17>> Let's do it.

38:18>> We'll start with Mike Clay.

38:21>> Why?

38:21>> We were talking about some tight ends.

38:23>> I know, but why me first?

38:25>> He was trying to compliment.

38:26>> Compliment.

38:27>> Well, you got to There we go.

38:28>> There we go. That's I had 105.

38:30>> I was You got So, the $20 bills count

38:32for

38:33>> You've been working out though. Yeah, I

38:34can tell.

38:35>> 106. Okay.

38:36>> A lot of lot of squats. All right.

38:37>> I've been slacking. Uh, yeah. TJ

38:39Hawinson.

38:40>> Wait, no. I'm going to give the rankings

38:41first. Sorry.

38:41>> Except for me to go first. I know it was

38:43because I made you uncomfortable by

38:44complimenting your body. We're going to

38:46start with tight ends 1 through 10. Trey

38:48McBride, Brock Bowers, George KD, Sam

38:50Laaporta, Isaiah Likely, Tyler Warren,

38:52Harold Fannon, Tucker Craft, Jawan

38:55Johnson, and Coloulston Lovelin. Coulson

38:57Loveland does make it as a top 10 tight

38:58end this week. TJ Hawinson coming off of

39:02last week's big game at 11. Mark

39:04Andrews, Daltton Concade, Brentton

39:05Strange, Kenyan Sadi, Pat Frymouth,

39:07Michael Mayer, Kottton, AJ Barner,

39:09Hunter Henry, and Lord help you if you

39:11need to start any of the names on this

39:12second half of this list.

39:14>> I mean, look at him.

39:15>> I know. Sorry, Field. It's just a tough

39:16one. Tight end does not feel great once

39:19you get past tight end um two.

39:21>> Yeah.

39:22>> And but you know, let's talk about a few

39:24of these guys.

39:24>> You have like Leaporta.

39:26>> Yeah. No, that mid-range and there's

39:28been a few that have kind of come on

39:29this season. We have a few guys that

39:31stepped up that maybe we didn't plan on.

39:32One of them being Joan Johnson for the

39:34Saints.

39:34>> He's been awesome. Fun player to watch,

39:36too. Now, in this series, as we know,

39:38throws the ball a ton. Tyler Shuck has

39:4018 more passing attempts than any

39:42quarterback in the league. Mike

39:44mentioned the run defense issues. I'm

39:46not sure they're much better at

39:47defending the pass either. So, this

39:49Saints defense is as bad as Mike is

39:51great. Good opportunity for them to

39:53continue to throw the football a lot on

39:54offense. And Jawan Johnson, amongst

39:56tight ends, is fifth in routes run,

39:59fifth in targets, third in end zone

40:01targets. does get those looks when they

40:03are near the goal line. Noah Fant who

40:05does not totally impact the value of

40:08Jawan Johnson, but if he's available,

40:10it's potentially slightly, you know,

40:12like a target less per game for Jawan

40:14Johnson. He was a scratch this past

40:16Monday night against Atlanta. We'll see

40:18his status for this upcoming weekend.

40:20It's a bad matchup against Minnesota. I

40:23think without spoiling it, the Saints

40:24win that game, though.

40:26>> Interesting.

40:27>> I think I just spoiled it, though.

40:28>> Yeah, a little bit. That's okay, though.

40:29We'll come back to it. Mike, who you

40:31want to go with?

40:31>> Uh, I'm going to talk about TJ Hawinson,

40:33your old buddy. Oh, yeah. From right now

40:35in Minnesota. Uh, ever since that injury

40:37a couple years ago, he hasn't been that

40:39same sort of I I wouldn't go as far to

40:41say elite fantasy tight end, but

40:43certainly like in the top five

40:45conversation most weeks. Hasn't been

40:46there, but maybe Kyler Murray can

40:48reunlock that. Last week he did 13

40:50targets, 13 catches, 119 yards against

40:53the Dolphins. He had a 39% target share.

40:56Guys, he's up to 26% target share this

40:59season. and that ranks 18th in the

41:00entire NFL and fourth at tight end. So,

41:02he's getting a ton of volume. Uh there

41:05could be this could be something with

41:07Kyler. Trey McBride had a 27% target

41:09share with Kyler during weeks one

41:11through five last season when he was

41:12healthy. It was 30% the year before the

41:14full season with Kyler. Remember before

41:17Trey McBride broke out, it was Zack Z

41:19who was super productive with Kyler

41:21Murray. So, there could be something

41:22here in terms of added volume and they

41:24play the Saints who to your point have

41:25struggled um they've struggled against

41:27this position. 28 points to Brock

41:29Bowers. Michael Mayer also scored in

41:31that game. And Mark Andrews and Sam

41:32Laorter both had fine fine days there,

41:34but both had at least nine and a half

41:36points. So I think Hawinson is a very

41:38high floor play here in week five. And

41:40if he finds the end zone, we could be

41:42pushing 20 points here.

41:43>> Love that. Who do you think wins that

41:44one?

41:46>> Uh who did I pick? I think I think I'll

41:48probably pick Minnesota. I just

41:51>> But they have they have to be able to

41:52score points.

41:52>> That's a really good pick. That's a

41:54really smart That's smart, Mike. I like

41:56that. Yeah, that's

41:58I want a cut up of this episode by the

42:00way for

42:02>> I need ESPN talent office sent just

42:04forward it right along.

42:05>> That's right.

42:06>> Uh Coulson Lovelin guys I'm rolling with

42:08them here as a top 10 tight end

42:10>> at this point. What we saw last week

42:12needs to be the standard the expectation

42:14of what we get out of Coulson Lovelin.

42:15First three weeks of the season, two

42:17targets, three targets, four targets.

42:19Last week nine targets. That's what it

42:21needs to be. I'd love to know what's

42:22happening right now. 6 for 57. He

42:25started much slower than what we wanted.

42:27But a lot of this, to be honest, is just

42:29anecdotal. Coloulston Loveland is an

42:32unbelievably talented and athletic

42:34freak. To play a position in which we

42:36have very few athletically talented

42:38freaks that are at the top of their

42:39game, even though he has struggled and

42:41started slow, I am still going to trust

42:43the talent and hope that they get him

42:44involved like we saw last week. So, I'm

42:46rolling with him again as a low-end

42:48tight end one.

42:49>> Coloulston Lovelin athletic freak. Brock

42:50Bower's athletic freak. We're talking

42:52just tight ends here. Yeah. Trey

42:53McBride, George KD. I would say at the

42:56top is Mike Clay.

42:57>> Mike Clay probably had the number one.

42:58Yes, for sure. For sure.

43:00>> You both agreed there. That's a wash

43:01out, but I appreciate it.

43:02>> Couple of quick streaming defenses for

43:04you guys, just so that you know. Uh

43:06Dallas Cowboys, they were the most added

43:08defense this week. You want to know why?

43:09They are taking on the Tampa Tampa Bay

43:12Buccaneers.

43:13>> George Pick is going to have three

43:14touchdowns. The Cowboys might have eight

43:16sacks.

43:16>> Yep. So, that's going to be a very big

43:17one. You can look at all those guys

43:18there. uh last week against the Packers.

43:21Packers had two sacks, two

43:22interceptions, three sacks, only allowed

43:2414 points. Love that as a potential

43:26streaming defense. Mike, what about you?

43:27>> Yeah, looking at the Bengals here, third

43:29in the NFL in sacks, and they draw

43:30Miami. They've been the third most

43:32generous to opposing defenses this

43:33season at 10 fantasy points per game.

43:36So, Bengals, good streamer this week.

43:37>> Field field.

43:38>> I got the Jaguars who have the Eagles

43:40coming up. Uh this game is over in

43:42London. This Jacksonville defense has

43:44been really solid so far this year. And

43:47the Eagles of course are now without

43:48Lane Johnson dealing with significant

43:50injuries along the offensive line.

43:51Dvonte Smith could be out. Dallas Gddard

43:53could be out. Saquon Barkley could be

43:54out. So it's Jaylen Herz throwing to

43:57Darius Cooper and Zack Z and Devont

44:00Dontavian Wix. So tough sledding for

44:02Philadelphia on Sunday. I actually think

44:03they keep that game at least very close

44:06if not win. I think there's a grittiness

44:07and a toughness about this Eagles team.

44:10Uh and this is not just me trying to

44:11compliment Mike for real. I think they

44:12they will find a way to stay in this

44:14game.

44:14>> I hope so. I don't know if they're going

44:15to win or not, but I do think this

44:16Philadelphia team's going to prove to us

44:18they dig deep when people expect them to

44:20be out.

44:20>> I I don't really know what to expect

44:22either. Maybe they do hang in there like

44:23they did with the Rams. That's a game

44:25everyone thought the Rams would

44:26>> uh handle. This feels like a game that

44:28could be 33 to three, but I I don't I

44:30hope I hope that's not not the case.

44:33>> All three of those defenses are

44:34available in more than 50% of leagues.

44:36They're the three most added defenses

44:38through waiverss, but still available in

44:39a number of leagues for you to be able

44:41to go and grab them.

44:41>> I have a legitimate question for you.

44:43Um, one of the highest projected

44:45defenses this week is the Jets

44:47>> against the Browns.

44:48>> Yep.

44:49>> The Browns seem like they're playing

44:51better offense. Is that

44:53>> There's still some Deshun Watson turning

44:55it over in in his projection. Okay.

44:58That's a big part of that. And also the

44:59Browns are not exactly lighting it up

45:01offensively in terms of scoring big

45:02points. So, I think there's a little bit

45:04of a cap on that. So, that's uh

45:06generally where it comes from. So, yeah,

45:08not not getting too worried about that.

45:10the projection for a basically that how

45:13it works in terms of like the metrics

45:15for a quarterback is it evolves as the

45:16season goes on. So obviously to open the

45:18season it's based on historical numbers

45:21and year-to-year progression kind of

45:22regression to mean in some categories

45:24but every week as they you know 40 more

45:27uh dropbacks it'll just start to use

45:30more of what we've seen this season. So

45:32Watson's numbers his efficiency

45:34projections are getting better but we're

45:36not totally forgetting about it's a

45:37small sample with him. He still has

45:39turned it over this season a few times

45:40as well. Made some mistakes. So, uh,

45:43still a a guy that could be a liability

45:45in that area.

45:46>> Understood.

45:47>> Let's do a little fantasy face off. Me

45:50versus Field. Mike gets to be the judge.

45:52Whoa, we didn't change the animation.

45:54Mike should be in the middle there.

45:55Sorry about that, Michael. I apologize.

45:57I'll talk with our team about it and

45:58just know that I'll handle it.

46:00>> We could pay homage to one of the great

46:02sitcoms of our of our childhood, Malcolm

46:04in the Middle.

46:05>> Oh, that's true.

46:06>> Yeah, that's right. Frankie Munz uh was

46:08a big racer now.

46:09>> Yes, he drives in the Arca series. Yeah.

46:11Or did he go to trucks? I think he went

46:13to the truck series. But either way,

46:14>> I think he's fallen on some tough times

46:15of late.

46:16>> Yeah. Yeah, he has. But uh yeah, it was

46:18cool to see him make that change. He's

46:20like our age, too. And then living the

46:22dream, right?

46:22>> Really good like as a racer.

46:24>> Uh

46:26>> I don't want I don't want to disrespect

46:27his game, but uh work in progress, but

46:29you know, it's hard when you he's an

46:31actor, right, for so he's done that his

46:32whole life and then he decided, hey, I

46:34have money. I'm going to invest in a

46:35team and race because it's something I

46:36want to do. Why not? And he's great.

46:38He's develop. He's a He's a development.

46:40He's He's a developing driver.

46:42>> That's what Mike Clay's hoping to be

46:43someday. He's a development driver. He

46:44just wants to be Wouldn't that be great?

46:46Wouldn't you would you do it?

46:48>> Yeah.

46:49>> Would you drive around?

46:50>> I raced go-karts and my dad was a a

46:52champion racer on dirt in Pennsylvania.

46:54Uh won two track championships uh in in

46:57the late 80s. So, he was

46:59>> How fast did your cars go?

47:00>> Mine? Oh, mine weren't? I mean, this was

47:03when I was a kid, so not super fast, but

47:05I I don't know what the miles per hour

47:06was, but okay. Enough to be competitive.

47:08Like, it was it was fun.

47:10>> Let's dive into a couple of guys that

47:11we're gonna bring to the table. Sorry.

47:12>> Do it.

47:13>> Fantasy Faceoff. Field and I are both

47:15going to bring a player to the table

47:16that we would rather start over the

47:18other person's player. We're going to

47:19start at the quarterback position. Do

47:20you want to go first or do you want me

47:21to go first?

47:22>> You know, let's go with Beauty before

47:23Age.

47:24>> All right. So, I will go first.

47:27Wait a second.

47:29I'm older than you. I'm I'm almost a

47:31man.

47:32>> Yeah.

47:33>> I can't wait to turn 40 so I can say I'm

47:35a man. I mean, I actually don't want to

47:36turn 40.

47:37>> When I turned 40, I used that uh that

47:39gift like once and then I said it like

47:40once or twice and then it was like,

47:41"Okay, all right.

47:42>> On to the next thing."

47:42>> Now, now I'm over better. See if you can

47:45do better and utilize it more.

47:46>> Bon I got Bonx bringing to the table.

47:48Bon.

47:49>> Okay. All right.

47:50>> Last couple weeks, here's the deal. He

47:51was really good two weeks ago against

47:53the Rams. By really good, I mean his

47:54fantasy points were really good. 24.14.

47:57He's actually really struggled so far

47:58this year. 5.4 4 14.1 13.5. But you look

48:02at the defenses they've played. Kansas

48:03City, Jacksonville, the Rams, and San

48:05Francisco.

48:06>> Oh, fair.

48:06>> So, it has been a very difficult road.

48:08Chargers,

48:10>> who they're playing this week, have

48:12allowed three quarterbacks to top 16 and

48:15a half fantasy points against them.

48:17That's a much nicer floor than it is the

48:18difficult matchups he's had in recent

48:20memory. Uh, by the way, on the other

48:22side, Fields guy, uh, is going to play

48:24the 49ers. They've only allowed one

48:26>> quarterback to top 13.6 fantasy points.

48:28So, they've done really good so far this

48:29year.

48:30>> Um, so I just think this is a defense

48:32that can be taken advantage of. You

48:33know, last week it it was a situation in

48:35which it did not feel like we needed to

48:37utilize Bon Knicks quite as much. It was

48:38a much more difficult of a matchup. He

48:40threw the ball 40 42 times though still.

48:43So, I'm going with Bon Knicks as a

48:46high-end QB2 over one Sam Darnold this

48:49week.

48:49>> Yeah. Interesting. That's interesting

48:50call because Bon Knicks has been so bad

48:52this year. Up and down. I don't I don't

48:55I don't like playing players that, you

48:56know, you get the jackal and hide nature

48:58to them. I prefer guys that are Super

49:00Bowl champions, that have pedigree, that

49:01bring it to the table when it matters

49:03the most.

49:04>> Like Sam Darnold, who I grant you, has

49:06only played in two full games this year,

49:08but two weeks ago against Washington, he

49:10absolutely lit it up. Nearly 28 fantasy

49:12points, which is more points in any

49:14game, more points than Bo Knicks has

49:16scored in any game so far this season.

49:18Yeah. Yeah, you're right that San

49:20Francisco has largely held quarterbacks

49:22in check except for Jacobe Brassette

49:24>> for 26 fantasy points against the

49:26Niners. The Rams forgot it was the

49:28regular season when they went to

49:29Australia 10 minutes before kickoff. I'm

49:31throwing that Matthew Stafford game away

49:33and then they played Bo Nicks who we

49:35just talked about who Bo, you don't know

49:36what you're going to get. Sam Darnold

49:38and the Seahawks team locks in. They

49:41knock out the San Francisco 49ers for

49:43their first loss of the season. Sam

49:45Darnold to JSN two times. You heard it

49:48here first. Sam Darnold a better play

49:50than Bon Knicks.

49:51>> Hey, by the way, they did that last

49:52week, right? Oh, wait. No, he had 13.3

49:55fantasy points against the Chargers. Sam

49:56Darn.

49:57>> Chargers are trash. But Mike, did you

49:59get a haircut? I don't know why your

50:00hair looks so good.

50:00>> I'm getting a haircut today at 12:30.

50:02Okay. Uh, thank you for not noticing.

50:05>> All right, I have to decide on this one.

50:06Bonus.

50:07>> Good call. Two good cases.

50:08>> Sam Darnold

50:09>> Field.

50:10>> Get back online. Daniel, you you WIN

50:12THIS ONE.

50:12>> YES.

50:13>> You know where you got me? Where?

50:14>> You got me with the the tough schedule

50:16so far.

50:17Four games are tough and I still believe

50:18in Bon Knicks's talent. I think that's a

50:20fair point. I think he gets it going

50:22>> uh the right direction.

50:23>> I believe Seth Walder, who does

50:25analytics for us here at ESPN, very,

50:26very, very smart, has a lot of cool

50:28insights. Uh he had a post uh last night

50:31on Twitter, uh that the Broncos, I

50:33think, have played four of the top five

50:35teams in ESPN's football power index.

50:36>> Really?

50:37>> So, they've they've faced as difficult

50:39of a schedule basically as

50:40>> You know, it's funny you say that. I

50:41noticed and the strength to schedule

50:42chart shows the easiest schedule

50:44remaining for the defense special teams

50:46is the Broncos going forward. So you

50:47wonder why that's supposed to be an

50:49elite defense. Why have they struggled?

50:50Well, the schedule's been brutal going

50:52forward. It's very light. Although Pat

50:53Zertan injured, so

50:54>> yeah, we'll keep an eye on that eye on

50:56that.

50:56>> Y All right, I'll let you go first here

50:58for the second one just so you can kind

50:59of get your feet underneath you a little

51:00bit.

51:00>> All right, so I think it's pretty

51:02obvious who's going to start at running

51:03back for the Eagles this weekend, right?

51:05>> Yes. They literally only have one guy,

51:07right? And so the thing about Will

51:09Shipley is that he's going to get a ton

51:10of volume this weekend.

51:12>> Sure.

51:12>> On top of that, Will Shipley is a very

51:14gifted pass catcher. The Eagles have

51:16talked about how they're going to play

51:17more under center now with Jaylen Herd.

51:19It's kind of meet Jaylen back in the

51:21middle. This Eagles offense is going to

51:22get back on track a little bit. Now,

51:24what you may not know is that Will

51:26Shipley

51:28>> has English roots.

51:29>> Okay.

51:30>> All right. Will has three uncles who

51:32still live in London and they are

51:34amongst the biggest and most popular on

51:37the internet arm wrestling scene.

51:39>> I want this to be true

51:40>> in the entire world.

51:42>> Those guys are all going to be there and

51:43they're going to be intimidating the

51:44Jaguars before the game on Sunday

51:46morning. And do you want to bet against

51:48Will Shipley and his three uncles live

51:49in London?

51:51>> This is real or

51:52>> right? Like this is

51:53>> You sold it really well. If it's not

51:55real,

51:55>> it's not real. Will Shiffley is going to

51:58get more opportunities than I believe

52:01Kyle Manungai will get. He is not

52:03necessarily going to be as efficient

52:04Manungai behind that awesome awesome

52:07offensive line in Chicago. But volume,

52:10good pass catching and I think he's

52:11going to find his way into the end zone.

52:13Give me Will Shipley.

52:14>> I hear you Field. I'm going to go over

52:15the top on this one though. That's an

52:16arm wrestling reference that neither one

52:18of you get, but a bunch of people in our

52:19chat understand. That's right.

52:22>> Kyle Manungai.

52:23>> Bears have played how many games this

52:25year? Four games, right?

52:26>> Yes,

52:26>> that will be correct.

52:27>> Okay. In those four games, a Bears

52:28running back has topped 20 fantasy

52:30points three times so far.

52:32>> Impressive. Two of them were him, right?

52:33>> Yes. Including last week where he had

52:36146 rushing yards and two rushing

52:37touchdowns. He has done it twice in four

52:40games this year. The best an Eagles

52:42running back has done is 11.9 fantasy

52:44points. That was Tank Bsby, by the way.

52:46Not even Saquon Barkley.

52:47>> Saquin had two nine-point games in his

52:49two healthy games. I just have much more

52:51faith in the Bears running backs this

52:53season. I have much more faith in the

52:54Bears offense this season. I recognize

52:57Will Shipley will play probably more

53:00>> than Kyle Manungai. I'm just going to

53:02default to what I think is going to be a

53:04better offense. And the ability that if

53:05it runs through Kyle Manungi like it did

53:07last week, you have a higher higher

53:09chance at an upside.

53:10>> You know, I'm a practical numbers guy

53:12and you just made up facts to make your

53:14case. I can't I can't support that.

53:17Thanks. Point to Daniel. Also, he gave

53:20you $60.

53:21>> No. Whoa.

53:23Dang it. I did.

53:25>> I thought

53:26>> I I have to go on guy here, but yeah.

53:28>> Sorry guys.

53:29>> So I I expect better field. Gota do

53:31better.

53:31>> Will Shipley is going to touch the ball

53:33a ton. He absolutely will. He is. I

53:35think he will have more touches than if

53:37>> I really don't know what they're going

53:38to do. I wouldn't surprise if it's 45%

53:40of the snaps or 60 I don't know like 70.

53:43>> I just don't Who do you have right now?

53:46Like

53:46>> Damen Pierce as the two.

53:48>> Is there anyone that you want to start?

53:49>> Jaden Blue. I don't want to start any

53:51Eagles running back, especially in a

53:52game where I think they're going to have

53:53a hard time.

53:54>> You don't want to start a single eagle

53:55right now.

53:56>> No, they're going to have a they're

53:57going to have a hard time. I I really

53:58believe that.

53:58>> All right,

53:59>> cool.

53:59>> Sorry about this, Field.

54:00>> It's okay.

54:01>> You tried so hard to make Mike be your

54:02friend earlier, too.

54:03>> I did.

54:03>> I think I'm going to crush you in this

54:04last one.

54:05>> Yeah, but one of the compliments was I'm

54:06just practical and practical guy. I got

54:10to I got to listen to the info and make

54:11the right choice here. It's very

54:12important.

54:13>> Ready for a clean sweep?

54:14>> This is No, I'm not.

54:15>> This is serious business.

54:16>> All right. Who Who is it?

54:18>> We need time for a random rank. We got

54:19to be quick.

54:19>> Lions have given up six games of at

54:21least 19.9 fantasy points to a tight end

54:23or wide receiver so far this year.

54:26>> Um Michael Wilson takes them on this

54:28week. We obviously think that Trey

54:29McBride is going to be an every week

54:30starter. Michael Wilson fits the bill.

54:32Did you know that he has 30 targets over

54:34the last two weeks, most in the NFL,

54:36fourth in the NFL in targets. Everything

54:38that you have seen from the Lions

54:40secondary I don't need to harp on and I

54:41don't want to. Michael Wilson is an easy

54:43top 10 play this week. Zay Flowers is a

54:45better player than Michael Wilson even

54:47with Lamar Jackson unlikely to be

54:48available because who's a way better

54:50player, Zay Flowers or Michael Wilson.

54:52It's Z Flowers. To me, it's pretty

54:54apparent. Zay Flowers is seventh in the

54:56NFL and run after catch per reception.

54:59You put the football in Z Flowers hands.

55:01Good things are going to happen. You

55:02have your backup quarterback. You're

55:03facing all of a sudden pretty darn good

55:05defense. Yeah. What's the strategy here?

55:07Get the ball out quick. Let Zay Flowers

55:10do the heavy lifting for you. He's

55:11fourth in the NFL in receiving yards, by

55:13the way. The guy's played hurt. He

55:15played 45% of the snaps in one game. He

55:18missed the second half of another game.

55:20He's absolutely electric here. Don't

55:22overthink it. Don't allow this trendy 30

55:25targets over the past two week, Michael

55:27Wilson blind you from the light that is

55:30the most handsome fantasy analyst with

55:32the best thoughts in all of ESPN and the

55:36Z Flowers loving Mike Clay. I love that

55:38we went from quarterback from Bon Knicks

55:40and Sam Darnold to Kyle Manungai and

55:41Will Shipley and now we're arguing about

55:43two guys. We have like eight and 10 in

55:46Michael Wilson and Ze Flowers.

55:47>> Look, I I have Wilson ranked higher. So,

55:49the way I'm attacking this is not like

55:51who obviously I know I have who I have

55:53hired. I'm not just going to pick that

55:54person. It's whoever gets me to move the

55:56needle a little bit closer. So, this one

55:58I'm going to have TO GO WITH FIELD.

56:00>> WAY TO GO, FIELD.

56:01>> THANK YOU. Well done. Way pace.

56:03>> All right. I have to give you your

56:05flowers.

56:06>> Thank you. I'll take my 60

56:07>> and I'll give you your money back.

56:08>> No, thank you. Thank you. I appreciate I

56:10appreciate. All right, let's dive into

56:11some fun rankings here, guys, really

56:13quickly to end the show. We have a lot

56:14of fun being able to do this and we want

56:15to hear what you guys have to say in

56:17chat as we go through it. These are

56:18going to be our favorite team logos.

56:21Each one of us brought three to the

56:22table. Mike, we're going to start with

56:24you. You're going to do three sports

56:26logos.

56:26>> Okay, we'll do my countdown. Quick

56:28honorable mention. Oh, we're starting

56:29right there. My number one my number

56:31one's on the board. Never mind. Yeah,

56:33I'm going uh Mark Martin's Valvaline

56:35scheme or the Valvalene scheme in NASCAR

56:37in general is always a home run for me.

56:39I grew up a Mark Martin's always been my

56:41guy, my favorite athlete. He is the

56:43best. And before you say drivers aren't

56:44athletes, this guy literally has books

56:47about his workout. Go to his face and

56:49tell him he's not an athlete. That guy

56:51is still absolutely jacked. He's

56:53awesome.

56:54>> Mike was actually conceived at a NASCAR

56:55race. He hasn't told a lot of people.

56:57>> But I'm wearing my Mark Martin shirt

56:58today as well because love it. Uh Kansas

57:00City Chiefs are second. Dallas Texans as

57:02well. They're the old name of their

57:03franchise. Always been uh attracted to

57:06those colors for some reason. Always is

57:08has hit home. And also my daughter's

57:10name Casey Clay. Casey. So she wears the

57:12Casey merchandise.

57:13>> Look at that number.

57:14>> Mike's middle name was Daytona. It all

57:16makes more sense.

57:16>> Now it makes more sense. Yes. Uh and the

57:18Colorado Avalanche. I was a big

57:20Avalanche fan growing up because I just

57:22loved when they moved from Quebec. I

57:23love the logo. So love that. Uh

57:25honorable mention the 98 to 2008

57:28New York Jets. Uh, always loved the logo

57:30like the white helmets. The Chad

57:31Pennington era. Yeah, white helmets.

57:33Always love that one. Pennington's my

57:35guy.

57:35>> Where do you think the days of Thunder

57:36crew got the term Robbins racing?

57:38>> No idea.

57:39>> Came from Mike's parents, obviously.

57:40>> That is inappropriate.

57:42>> Why don't you go? I'll go next here.

57:44I'll go next here, guys.

57:45>> You actually have to leave the show.

57:47>> Sorry about that. My number one, guys,

57:49the Anaheim Mighty Ducks. Do you

57:50remember being a kid?

57:51>> This was one of my

57:52>> and this movie came out and it was so

57:54cool. You've got the old school hockey

57:56mask like the Jason mask and it looks

57:58like a duck with like it was

57:59unbelievable. Just a super cool logo.

58:02Very nostalgic from my youth. Also the

58:05Seattle SuperSonics

58:06>> took all three of my picks for the

58:07record.

58:07>> Are you serious?

58:08>> Yes.

58:08>> Oh, I love the Seattle SuperSonics logo.

58:11So does Field. I guess we have great

58:12taste together. We can we can be nice to

58:14each other now that we're not going

58:15against each other.

58:16>> And then the Harford Whalers.

58:18>> Awesome.

58:19>> This is an unbelievable logo.

58:21Unbelievable logo. The H with the W. You

58:24see the negative space with the like

58:26it's an unbelievable thing. And the fact

58:27that there's, you know, no like

58:29aggressiveness within the Hartford

58:30Whalers logo. It's just a very cool

58:32family-friendly logo.

58:33>> They don't use these logos anymore. None

58:35of your three logos exist anymore.

58:37>> I know.

58:38>> No one said anything about them being

58:39>> They're amazing though.

58:40>> Did they?

58:40>> No, they didn't. I'm just saying there's

58:42a reason they don't exist anymore.

58:43>> Uh sort of interesting that Mike's third

58:45logo was the Colorado Avalanche. I don't

58:47know how many people know this, but

58:48Colorado used to have a hockey team.

58:50>> They did. Before the Avalanche, it was

58:52the Colorado Rockies, not the baseball

58:54team.

58:54>> Are you serious?

58:55>> Seriously? From like 1976 to 1982. This

58:59is the Colorado emblem right in the

59:01middle there. My wife's family.

59:02>> Huh.

59:02>> Oh, okay. Go ahead.

59:04>> I still love the the the the logo. It's

59:06awesome. Uh my in-laws live in Colorado.

59:08My wife grew up partially in Colorado.

59:10We have lots of Colorado ties. That

59:12right there is really cool. It's of

59:13course emblematic of the Rockies. Uh and

59:16the hockey team, not the baseball team.

59:17The baseball team's logo is okay. Uh Pat

59:19Patriot throwback to my my youth here.

59:21>> Oh, the

59:22>> Patriots had a good year, but the

59:24Patriots red uniforms are top five in

59:27the NFL when they drop their throwbacks.

59:29I always feel like no matter who they're

59:31playing, they're going to win that game.

59:33This guy, Patriot, is ferocious. He's

59:35hiking a football. He is jocked. He

59:37looks like Mike Clay and Mike and Mark

59:39Martin uh all the way around. Awesome.

59:41And then finally, last but not least,

59:43the UNMBC Golden Retrievers.

59:45>> The first ever 16 team to win a game in

59:47the men's NCAA basketball tournament.

59:50Great lacrosse program as well. I am I

59:52have a Golden Retriever. He's the best.

59:54His name is Cisco and I love him dearly.

59:56And UNMBC stands for UNMB Cisco.

59:59>> Wow, love that.

1:00:00>> Thank you. You're welcome. It's actually

1:00:01It's actually University of Maryland. I

1:00:03believe it's Baltimore County is the

1:00:05actual UNMBC.

1:00:06>> Okay, gotcha. I love that. Chad says

1:00:09>> that I get the dub on this one. 50% of

1:00:11chat likes my logos.

1:00:13>> I didn't even finish reading mining.

1:00:15You're like, "Yeah, chat says I win."

1:00:16>> I know. That's not Well, that's not me.

1:00:18That's just

1:00:19>> my producer Addison.

1:00:20>> Sorry, guys.

1:00:22>> Shout out to guy Addison who made it

1:00:23through his first show today. Proud of

1:00:24you, buddy.

1:00:25>> Very excited to be here. Cannot wait to

1:00:27come back tomorrow. You know what? We're

1:00:28going to dive into our week five

1:00:30previews over Thursday and Friday. We

1:00:32will preview Thursday Night Football and

1:00:33all of the week I know. I can't believe

1:00:35we're here already.

1:00:36>> Man, I don't know where the time goes. I

1:00:40will sign up for a Fuel G8 concert. Tell

1:00:42me where to go. Put that on the wheel.

1:00:44>> Don't forget to love each other and be

1:00:45kind to yourself, you guys. You deserve

1:00:46it. Come back and hang with us. Hang out

1:00:47with us tomorrow. We'll see you then.

1:00:49>> Peace.

1:00:51>> You're in the 060.

1:00:55Fantasy.

1:00:58Fantasy. Focus.

1:01:09Hey,

1:01:22hey, hey.