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0:13Cory, what's popping? >> What's up? What's up? How are you, bro? >> Hey, man. You know, hey, just trying to get some knowledgeable DAS in here. You feel me? >> Of course. And I'm looking for some knowledgeable Christians, Don. So, >> hey, we on one. Hey, you ain't saying nothing. You got one right here. Now, what I will say, Jeremy, I mean, I mean,
0:27they already know you have the world at your fingertips, and I can see you already looking at your screen. I'm in my car. All I got is notes that I was going to use for my live today. >> All right. All I got is >> Hopefully, you got something for me. Hopefully, >> all I got is my glasses and so on and so
0:41forth. I'm here with just my intellect, bro. But, I mean, you're back. >> You had you you literally just had to get set up for like 3 minutes. Stop playing. >> 3 minutes? Yeah. I had to put on my face mask. >> Actually, it was like 10 minutes. >> Yeah. To put on my face mask and my
0:52hoodie, man. What can I say? But regardless, Don, so your background is Islam is false. My my issue is this, right? You talk a lot about Islam and so on and so forth. I want to see how you stand in terms of Christianity. >> You guys are you >> I talk about Islam every day, Don. Every single day I'm live talking about my
1:15religion. I want to see if you can stand up to yours. >> You can't make this up. chat every day with >> no Muslim wants to defend Islam. No Muslim want. No, but you talk to low tier Christians. They >> I talk to low tier Christians and you wait, you go in the category of low tier Christians.
1:33>> No, you only have people who don't even know how to explain the Trinity. They have no idea what the Trinity is. >> Perfect. So then >> you you only talk to Christians who know nothing about the Bible. >> Okay. So then why don't you come and defend yourself >> now? No. No. Now [laughter] you got me.
1:46We're going to talk about Islam. Wait, how about Dude, >> I literally just was on a panel AP1 talk depending on how we go. [laughter] Okay, so how about we go topic for topic? >> Let's go bang for bang. Yeah, both. >> All right, for sure. Islam. We'll talk about the trinity. We'll talk about >> talk about 100%.
2:01>> 100%. >> All right, for sure. Where are we starting, bro? >> Yeah, we starting on Islam and then we'll go to Christianity. >> You said you want to talk about the trinity, right? >> I'm asking. You said trinity first. >> You can't make the You cannot make I last the last conversation we didn't even get We didn't even get to get to
2:16Islam. We literally was just talking about doctrine and theology when it comes to when it comes to the Bible. We were previously on Can I get a turn? >> Yeah. No, you 100% can get a turn. By the way, >> thank you. What are we doing here, bro? >> But did I speak to you is the question.
2:29>> Okay. Islam is false. >> No, answer the question. Did I speak to you? >> No. >> Okay. Exactly. So that conver. >> No, no, no. I he dropped me from the I requested for you to come up. You said come to my live. So I want to go tit for tat with you, Don. I'm 100% but
2:46>> 100%. But hey, this is not a metaphysical conversation, correct? >> It's not about we're talking. We're talking scripture. Bible. Okay. >> Bible. Absolutely. So, you're done with that >> and we're going to we're going to start with that, too. Bible. We're talking just scripture. >> 100%. >> All right. For sure, Don. So, let's start with this. And I have no problem
3:03with defending Islam right after. So, you believe that Jesus is God. Correct. >> Correct. >> You believe that Jesus was crucified? >> Correct. Do you believe that Jesus was an honest man? >> Yes. >> He never uttered any lies whatsoever. >> No. >> Okay. Can you open up Matthew 26? >> Beautiful. Let's go. [snorts]
3:25>> Let's go to Matthew 26, chat. >> All right. Talk to me. >> All right. Matthew 26. That's talking about the Last Supper, correct? >> Yep. >> All right. Uh can you go to Matthew 26 and start from 15 and read onwards? >> Okay. So then one of the 12 called Judas
3:47Escariat, went to the chief priest and said, "What are you willing to give me if I deliver him to you?" And they counted uh out to him 30 pieces of silver. So from that time he sought opportunity to betray him. Now on the first day of the feast, the unleven bread, the disciples came in Jesus saying to him, "Where do you want us to
4:04prepare for you to eat the Passover?" And he said, "Go into the city." and a certain man and say to him, "The teacher says, "My time is at hand, and I will keep the Passover at your house with my disciples." So the disciples did as Jesus directed them, and they prepared the Passover. >> Okay. What? >> Okay, perfect. And continue on to when
4:21they're eating the supper. >> Okay. And it says, "And when evening had come, he sat down with the 12. Now as they were eating, assurely I say to you, one of you will betray me. And they were exceedingly sorrowful. And each of them began to say to him, Lord, is it I?" Mhm. >> He answered and said, "He who dipped his
4:38hand with me in the dish uh will betray me." >> Yeah. >> The son of man indeed goes just as it is written, but woe uh to that man by whom the son of man is betrayed. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> And then he breaks the bread and they eat and he says, "This bread resembles my flesh." And then he takes the wine
4:56and he says that this wine resembles my blood. >> And then what does he say after that? >> Uh let me see. He gave it to the disciples. Take and eat. Drink from it for this blood of the new covenant. Uh wait, what verse are you at? >> Uh we can Wait, are you at 19? >> Uh yeah, we just read 19, but I ended at
5:17verse 22, I think. Right. >> Okay, continue reading to where it talks about him raising the wine. And he says that this wine represents the blood of the covenant. >> Amen. >> All right. And he says what to the disciples after that? >> And drink my blood of the new covenant which is shed for many for the remission
5:33of sins. But I say to you, I will not drink of its fruit of the vine from now on until the day when I drink it with you new in my father's kingdom. >> Perfect. So Jesus raises the cup and he says that I will not drink from the fruit of the vine, meaning wine. Correct. >> From this day on up until when I am in
5:53heaven in my father's kingdom with the 12. >> So he What does it say in heaven? It just says in my father's kingdom. >> His father's kingdom is heaven. Correct. >> No, you know what a kingdom is? Wait, the father's kingdom is not heaven. >> Well, no, it is the the heaven. >> Okay, so it is then
6:08Let me Let me help you. Let me help you. Heaven is a place. >> Uh-huh. >> Can I Okay, I'll wait. I'll I'll wait. I'll wait. >> So, the father's kingdom >> I thought it was even. I thought I thought you were going to give me an opportunity. >> Is the father's kingdom heaven? Yes or no? >> Heaven is a place. The kingdom of heaven
6:21is the governing influence of the place over territory. >> So, is the father's kingdom heaven? Yes or no? He >> king The kingdom of heaven is influence. Heaven is a place. But the kingdom of heaven is heaven's influence over territory. For example, listen. Rome is a place. The kingdom of Rome almost took over the whole world. >> Okay, perfect. Is the father's kingdom
6:40heaven? It's a yes or no question. >> Oh my gosh. Heaven is a kingdom, but it's not limited to heaven. >> Okay, so >> that's why he says, "Thy kingdom come." >> Okay, perfect. So when Jesus be a kingdom listen, a kingdom, let me let me help you understand it cuz you're not you're not listening. A kingdom is not
6:59just a place. A kingdom is the governing influence of the place. >> SO WHEN HE SAYS MY FATHER'S KINGDOM, what is he talking about, Deron? >> He's talking about under the king's influence. Whatever is in his kingdom. I'm in his kingdom right now. >> Okay, perfect. So then what's >> the Bible says, listen, listen, Cora, that's why the Bible says he has
7:20conveyed us from the kingdom of darkness into the kingdom of the son of his love. So I am IN HIS KINGDOM NOW. >> PERFECT, DURON. So when Jesus says, "I will not drink from the fruit of the vine from now up until I am with you, the 12 in my father's kingdom." What is his father's kingdom? What is he
7:40signifying here? >> Oh my gosh. When they enter the kingdom of God. >> Perfect. And where what is the kingdom of God? >> Get to your point. I just question. When he enters the kingdom of God, what are the 12 and Jesus entering? Where are they entering? the kingdom. >> And what is that kingdom?
8:00>> Dude, I just explained it. >> Is the kingdom heaven or not? It's a yes or no question. >> I just explained it. >> Dur Jesus says your point. You pigeon hole. You need to make that point. You need to answer the question. Jesus, finish your argument. From now up until I am in my father's kingdom, which means
8:20he is going to be with the 12 in his father's kingdom. When he says that, what is he referring to? Where are him and the 12 going to be? >> Are I'm I'm waiting for you to make an argument. >> Answer the question. Where are him and the 12 going to be drawn? >> I'm waiting. >> Are you going to answer the question?
8:36Cuz I'm waiting for an answer. >> I'm waiting for you to make an argument so I can object to >> Yeah. You're waiting for the argument and I'm waiting for my question. >> I LITERALLY JUST GAVE YOU THE definition of a kingdom. >> Calm down. You don't need to scream. During Jesus says, >> "Make your argument. In order for the
8:50argument to be made, I need to make sure you understand the >> path. He literally says you'll see the son of man coming in his kingdom. >> Okay, perfect. And when he says the governing influence kingdom, >> Don, when he says the father's kingdom from now up until I am with you in my father's kingdom, what is that
9:08signifying? >> I just explained it. >> I'm asking what it signifies. Whether that means it's in heaven that's still his kingdom or whether it's referring to his governing influence which one it's referring to his kingdom. >> So tell me which one it's referring to when he says when I will be with you in my depends on the context. Let's keep
9:29reading. >> So read the context and tell me. >> Make your point and I can No, make your point and I need to understand the passage before the point is made. >> Read the verse and I'll explain. >> You need to answer the question. >> I don't know. >> Yeah. No, you do. You really You're just using some answers. [laughter] You're
9:45not making an argument. I'm asking you to interpret the verse. >> What? Cora, what is the argument? >> Don, the verse speaks for itself. When Jesus says, let me read from now up until I am with you in my father's kingdom. What is he referring to? >> Yeah. >> What kingdom? Where are they? In heaven. No, that that could either mean in
10:04heaven or that could mean IN HIS GOVERNING INFLUENCE. >> WELL, IT CAN'T be both. So, in his kingdom. >> Well, it can't be both. So, which one is it? >> In his kingdom. That's what it can mean. THAT'S ALL. IT can't be both. So, which one is it in the >> That's right. So, ARE YOU STUCK? >> IT can't be both. So, which one is it?
10:17>> Are you stuck? >> Is it both or is it one of them? >> I I I Dude, I just said I don't know. He could be referring to heaven. >> Okay, you don't know. Perfect. Influence on earth when he when the kingdom come. Go ahead. >> You don't know. So, it seems I'm going to have to educate you on your Bible. IT
10:30COULD BE JESUS. IT can't be both at the same time. No, it can't be both at the same time. >> Well, no, I'm not saying it can be both. I'm saying it can mean either. >> So, then tell me which one it is. >> It could mean either one. >> So, then tell me which one it is.
10:42>> Oh my gosh, dude. Sh. [laughter] Are you okay? You are getting dogwalk. Don doesn't know his Bible. Don doesn't know his Bible. It's okay. I'll educate you, Don. Don't worry. >> You haven't met someone like me. >> No, I really haven't. I met I've met people that know me. So, I know people who know the Bible better than I know
11:00the Bible better. >> Why don't you finish this argument? That's the argument. So, since you don't know the context, you're getting dog. Perfect. So, since you don't know the context of this verse, I'm going to have to educate you. So when Jesus is speaking at the supper and he says, "I will not drink from this fruit of the
11:16vine from now up until I am with you in my father's kingdom." He's referring to when him and the disciples are going to be united in the kingdom of heaven, God's kingdom, which is heaven. So when the 12 and Jesus are united in heaven, Jesus says that he will not drink from
11:37the fruit of the vine, meaning the wine up until that point. Yes, >> indeed it is. >> So what's your argument? >> So Jesus, now we've established for all 600 people in my life right now, Jesus says that he will not drink wine up until the point in which he is with the 12 disciples in heaven. >> That's a precept.
11:58>> That's not a precept. That's justified based on the verse. Yeah, that's not what it says. >> Okay, read the verse again. >> You said it says in heaven. >> It says the kingdom of his father. >> Thank you. The governing influence of heaven over territory. >> Oh, wait. So, it's not Wait. [laughter] Okay. It's not heaven. So, now you
12:10suddenly know where it is. >> Wait, wait, wait. Let me ask you a question. >> Wait. So, now you suddenly know where it is because previously you said you don't know. >> Okay. >> Previously said you just said you don't know. >> Watch this. If if I Let's watch this, Cory. Watch this. If I If I say I'm
12:23going to Rome, right? That's a place, correct? >> Sure. Sure. >> But if I say I'm going to the kingdom of Rome, I can go anywhere where Rome has influence. Correct. >> Not by necessity. No. >> Oh my god. This girl. Get the heck. >> So Don, since you already So Don, since you already conceded that you don't know
12:43whether it's referring to heaven, the whole world >> or the earth. >> Wait, hold on. Duran. Tell me right now since you can't suddenly act as if you just got dumb. Make your point. >> You can't suddenly act as if you know the context of the verse. You make your point already. Okay. Well, you're going to have to let me speak instead of
13:01freaking out. You're spazzing out. >> It's not even my turn yet. This is about >> Yeah, you're spazzing out. You're spazzing out. So, since you already previously conceded in front of the 700 people in my live that you don't know the context of this verse, >> you don't know the context of this verse. You said you don't know what
13:16kingdom it's referring to. You don't know if it's referring to the earth or the heaven. >> You say that I didn't know the king is the kingdom of heaven. It's the kingdom of God. BUT THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS NOT LIMITED to heaven. PERFECT. THE KINGDOM IS GOD'S GOVERNING INFLUENCE over territory impacting that territory with his law, will and intent.
13:33>> We are the kingdom of heaven. We have it living within us. >> Perfect. So when Jesus says, "My father's kingdom," what is he referring to? >> His kingdom, HIS GOVERNING INFLUENCE. >> AND WHERE is that? Where is he saying him and the disciples are going to enter? He said it could be on earth. He said, "Thy kingdom come."
13:48>> In this verse, what is he referring to? >> Oh my Corora, are you okay? [laughter] >> Are you okay? Listen, make your point. Make your point. >> We've established that what Jesus is referring to is him and the 12 entering heaven. He is going to be in heaven with the 12 with his father. Correct. >> Okay. At some point. Yeah.
14:10>> And that's what Jesus is speaking about here. >> Why did he say the kingdom of heaven? the f wait his his father's kingdom. >> Why didn't he just say when I'm with you in heaven? >> Is he going to be with the 12 in his father's kingdom? >> I'm asking you why doesn't he say that in this verse?
14:22>> Is he when I drink from the cup in heaven with you? >> That's a good question. Wait, hold on. That's a good question. So when he says my father's kingdom, when he says my father's kingdom and he's saying that I will be with the 12 in my father's kingdom, it's obviously not going to be referring to the earth because they are
14:38already together on the earth, right? >> Were they not? >> What is the gospel? >> Wait, answer the question. Were they [laughter] not already together on the earth? >> Answer the question. Were they already not together on the earth? >> What is the goal? >> Answer the question. Were they not already together on the earth? >> Yeah, BUT ARE YOU SAYING
14:55>> PERFECT? SO IF THEY WERE ALREADY together on the earth, then there's no significance of Jesus mentioning the earth. So it's going to be the heavens. Beautiful. The whole goes >> the Bible says all the cities and villages. >> Perfect. And Jesus is speaking about his father's kingdom in heaven. the kingdom saying for the kingdom of heaven about
15:15his hand kingdom in heaven. Don, so now that we've established that Jesus is talking about his father's kingdom in heaven and not the earth, go ahead and open up John 19. >> Go ahead. >> Open up John 19. >> You just you're about to get absolutely ready to get BTA. >> You about to get dogwalked in front of
15:32your hi everybody in her life say cheese. >> Everybody in her live say cheese. She's about to get dog walked. >> ARE YOU READY? Are you going to get BTA? Let's look at it. >> Wait. John John chapter what? >> John 19 when it talks about the crucifixion. >> Okay. So, where we at? >> Okay. Here it is.
15:53>> And what was wait, what was the previous verse? The previous verse was Luke. >> It was Matthew. It was Matthew 26. It was Matthew 26. You could have started from 20 if you would like to. >> Perfect. >> Beautiful. >> So, we're going to go to John 19. Start from 28 and we'll put it on the screen for
16:11everybody to see too. >> Beautiful. Go ahead. >> All right. Perfect. After this, knowing that everything had now been accomplished, and to fulfill the scripture, Jesus said, "I am thirsty." A jar of sour wine was sitting there. So they soaked a sponge in the wine and put
16:32it on a stalk of high soap and lifted it to his mouth. And when Jesus had received the sour wine, he said, "It is finished." Bowing his head, he yielded up his spirit. So Jesus says that he's not going to drink wine until he is united with the 12 and it says the fruit. No, no, he said the fruit of this
16:51wine. >> No, the fruit of the vine. >> Was that was that was that was that wine that he was drinking on the vine? >> The same as the one he was wait no butchering. >> You're butchering the verse. Open up Matthew 26. Wait. No. No. You just lied. >> You going to let me speak? just lied.
17:05Open up Matthew 26 again. >> I'm asking you a question. He said, "I will [laughter] not drink from the fruit of this vine." >> Wait, open up Matthew 26. Let's see. >> So, was the wine he was drinking? >> Open up Matthew 26. Let's see. >> The same wine he was drinking. >> Open up Matthew 26 cuz that's not what
17:20Matthew 26 says. >> That's not what Matthew 26 says. Duron, it >> I'm I'mma read it out loud. Watch this, guys. I'm going to read it out loud. It says, "Drink from it all of you. For this is my blood of new covenant." Uh yeah. And it says, "But I say to you, I will not drink of THIS FRUIT OF THE
17:37VINE." >> This fruit of the vine. And what is this fruit of the vine signifying? It's signifying wine. Correct. He's saying, "I will not drink wine." >> Are you >> Let's go ahead and pull off the verse. He's a bit confused. >> You can't make this up. Is this your argument? >> Wait, hold on. It seems you're a bit
17:53confused. >> So, let's see. >> Okay, watch this. What What verse does it say? What verse does it say he drank the wine? Go I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to read >> John 19 28-29. >> Okay. 28-29. >> Yep. >> Say so. Sour wine was sitting there. They filled the spoon. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. >> Perfect.
18:11>> And they put it on his mouth. >> And they put it on his mouth and he drank it. And after he drank it, >> it literally says, "And Jesus have received the sour wine." He said, "It is finished." And bowing his head, he gave up the spirit. So, let me ASK YOU A QUESTION. >> PERFECT. WAIT, HOLD ON. NO, NO, NO.
18:25We're going to read the verse. No, no. We're going to read the verse. You said, "Listen, wait." No, no, no. We're going to read the verse one more time. I >> speak, you already misinterpreted the verse. >> No, you are misinterpreting the verse. >> You literally just lied about Matthew 26. >> You Okay, again, I'm asking you
18:43[laughter] a question. You said that that wine was the same wine of the fruit that he drank in the book of Matthew. >> I didn't say it was the exact same wine. I said that when Jesus says that he watch this, watch this. When Jesus says that I'm got I'm not going to drink from the fruit of the
19:01vine. What he's speaking about is wine. >> He's speaking about drinking wine. >> Okay. So what? >> Perfect. So let me ask you this. Yeah. So he's saying that I will not drink wine up until the point I am united with the 12 in my father's kingdom. That is what Jesus said in Matthew 26. He's not
19:23specifying the specific wine that he was drinking at the last supper. Again, [laughter] >> now that we've established that, Der, wait, hold on. I didn't presuppose. I substantiated everything I said. >> Everything. >> Okay, let's read it again. Let's read it again, Chad. Let's read it again for her cuz apparently she doesn't know how to read. >> It says, "Then he took the cup and gave
19:42thanks, and he gave it to them, saying, "Drink from it all of you, for this is my blood of the new covenant which is shed for many >> for the remission of sins. Mhm. >> But I say to you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until the day I drink it new with you in my
19:59father's kingdom. >> Perfect. And when he says fruit of the vine, is he speaking about wine? Yes or no? >> Yes, he's speaking of vine. That's not of the same. >> Perfect. Perfect. So he's saying that he is not going to drink wine from that presupposing that the I'm speaking. He's saying that from that
20:20point up until the point in which he is united with the 12 in his father's kingdom, he will not drink wine. That is the promise that he makes. And in the Gospel of John, no, I'm not done obviously because my lips are still moving as you can hear. So John 19, Jesus drinks from the sour wine which is
20:38given to him and he says afterwards, "It is finished." So what version are you reading from? >> Any any version? >> No. What version are you reading from? >> You pick. Let's see. What version is this? >> Yeah. No, I'm just I'm just asking what version you're reading from cuz I'm in my car, so I don't have I don't have any
20:53other translations. >> All right. NIV, which one do you want? >> Yeah. So, go to Matthew chap uh 26 27 and read it in the Greek. What does it say >> in the Greek? Okay. 26:27. >> Yeah. >> All right. Perfect. Then he took the cup, gave thanks, and gave it to them,
21:14saying, "Drink from it all of you. Okay. >> Yep. >> We're looking at the interlinear. What does this change? >> Yeah. What does it say? >> I just read it to you. What does it change? Wait. Say it again. >> Then he took the cup and gave thanks and gave it to them, saying, "Drink from this." Sorry. Drink from it all of you.
21:35>> Awesome. >> Perfect. >> Next. >> All right. 28. >> Hey, watch this, Chad. It's going to get real in a minute. Share it alive. It's going to get real. I mean, these are little like I I don't get where they're coming. I don't get where they're coming. >> You ready? >> This is my blood of the covenant which
21:55is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. >> Okay. Now, you want 29 in the Greek. >> Yeah. >> Perfect. I tell you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now until the day when I drink it a new with you in my father's kingdom. >> Beautiful. Now go to the other one now.
22:17>> Okay. John 19 says, "Later, knowing that everything had now been finished and so that scripture would be fulfilled, Jesus said, "I am thirsty." A jar of wine vinegar was there. So they soaked a sponge in it, put the sponge on a well, put the sponge on a stalk of the high
22:38plant, and lifted it to Jesus's lips. >> Yep. When he had received the drink, Jesus said, "It is finished." With that, he bowed his head and gave his spirit. So, did Jesus drink wine? >> Okay, repeat it. Wait, that part, the middle part. Say that one more time. >> It is finished.
22:59>> No, the one before that. >> When he had received the drink, Jesus said, "It is finished." >> Received it, right? >> Yes. Which means he drank it. >> Okay. >> Did he drink the wine? Yes or no? >> Well, it doesn't say that. It just says he put it to his lips and he received it. But
23:14>> it does not mean Wait. So if I say I PUT THIS CUP, WAIT, LET'S SAY [laughter] IF I PUT THIS cup of water to my lips and I received the water, have I drank the water? >> Okay. Well, let me say >> answer. Wait, no. Answer the question. If I put this cup to my lips and I
23:25receive the water, have I drank the water? >> If you drink it, yeah, >> I can receive the water without drinking it. >> If I put it to my lips, >> yeah, I put water in my mouth. I gargle it and I spit it out. >> Did Jesus do that? [laughter] >> No. >> Exactly. So he drink
23:40>> Okay. So again, >> exactly. So he still doesn't make a difference. HOW DO WE KNOW? OKAY, where did the wine come from that Jesus gave him? >> That Jesus gave him. It's insignificant. >> Why is it insignificant? >> Because the point is he's saying that he will not drink the wine up until the wine come from. Wait, wait, wait,
23:54>> wait. Does it change that Jesus? >> Wait, hold on. Does it change the fact that he drank the wine and said that he will not drink it? Don, what did he say? It seems like a derail. >> Okay. No, no, no. He said that it represents his blood of the covenant. >> I just answered. Are you going to
24:07listen? >> I just answered. It represents his blood. Where did the wine come from? >> Why does that matter? >> Well, I'm asking you. >> It doesn't matter. >> I'm asking you. Where did the wine come from? >> It doesn't matter. Does it change the fact that he drank the wine? >> So, the the the wine that he drank or
24:24the wine that was touched to his lips, I'm not going to presuppose anything on the text. You You can if you want, but the wine that they used to put on his lips, was it the exact same wine? >> It doesn't need to be the exact same wine. Is the Wait, hold on. Is the wine that Wait. Beautiful. Beautiful. Is the
24:37wine that he's going to be drinking in heaven going to be the exact same wine from the exact same cup that he was drinking on earth? >> That's the point. >> Is it going to be the exact same wine? >> No. >> Exactly. So, it doesn't need to be the exact same wine >> because Jesus is saying this bottle.
24:52>> Yeah. No. Jesus is saying Wait, hold on. No, no, no, no. He didn't say this bottle. He said this cup. >> Relax. >> He didn't say this bottle. He said this. >> Cora. Cora. Look, it's just me. >> I Wait, but I was in the middle of talking. Don, >> listen. I have no internet, so I can't
25:04really fact check anything. I I'm aware that you have no evidence and you're not familiar with your body. >> Yeah, I'm literally sitting on my car. You You're literally looking at the screen the whole time. You can't even look. >> Yeah. Yeah. I'm looking at my screen so I can put it up on the screen for 1930. No, I don't. I mean, I have my
25:17channel right here. I'm uploading video. >> Yeah, I know you do. >> Perfect. So, >> okay. So, what? >> Let's go ahead and establish something. Don Jesus says >> it doesn't say that he it said Okay, go ahead. >> Okay. Jesus says that he will not drink from the fruit of the vine from now >> of this. No, no. The fruit of this vine.
25:34No, it says fruit. >> Yeah. And when he says fruit of this vine, he's speaking about wine. >> This vine. Yeah. >> And he's speaking about wine. >> So, yeah. He said, "I will not drink from the fruit of this vine." We don't know where that was. Could it have been of where it came from? >> Wait. So, let me ask you, let me ask
25:47you. Did Jesus drink wine at that point in time? >> Yeah. >> So, the fruit of the vine here is wine that he gave his disciples. >> OKAY. PERFECT. SO, NOW THAT we've established Wait, hold on. Hold on. So, let me ask you, since you're trying to make the point that it specifically needs to be this vine, Duron, if it
26:03specifically needs to be this I'm in the middle of talking. If it specifically going to be this vine, Don, is Jesus going to drink from that exact cup and that exact vine in his father's kingdom. >> And so, wait, was it wine? Wait, was it wine or vinegar? >> Answer the question. >> Wine. >> Well, no, I'm asking you. Was it wine or
26:22was it vinegar that they gave him on the cross? >> According to the Strong's concordance, it's sour wine that was used as a painkiller for Sure it wasn't vinegar crucifixion. Yep. >> Is there any I I think it's vinegar. >> Are you sure? Okay. Let's look at the Greek. >> I think so. Look it up. >> All right. Let's look at the Greek.
26:35Let's look at the strongest concordance. >> Quote unquote. >> Well, no. Is there is there other Can you Can you go to a parallel passage? Can you go to Matthew? Uh >> Wait, hold on. We're going to look at this. Wait, hold on. We're going to look at the Greek because we love the original language, right? >> Dad, what verse was
26:48>> Wait, hold on. Look at this. >> Vinegar. I think it was vinegar. I don't think it was one. >> Oxos. Wait, look at this. Let's look at the Greek word. Oxos. a lowgrade sour wine given as a cheap painkiller to people condemned to crucifixion. So according to the Greek, it is a lowgrade sour wine. Do you agree or do you
27:08>> go to another verse? Wait, dude. Please. >> Wait. No, no, no. We're looking at the original language. >> Go to a parallel verse. >> Go to a parallel verse. Sure. >> Yeah. Go to like another Go to uh Luke. Uh >> sour wine. Sour wine. Sour wine. Different things translated as vinegar. Sour wine. Again, vinegar. Sour wine.
27:25>> Translated as Wait, translated as vinegar. Why would they translate it as vinegar? >> That's a good question. Doesn't matter. >> So maybe they were referring to vinegar. >> Oh, they were referring [laughter] to vinegar. Is that what the Greek word means? >> Well, why? >> Wait, wait, wait, hold on. Is that what the Greek word means?
27:40>> Wait, wait. I'm asking you a question. >> Wait, Don, Don, is that what the Greek word means, >> Gora? WHY WAS IT SOUR? >> WAIT, hold on. Is that because it was mixed with something else? It was diluted. >> Why was it sour? >> That's a good question. It says right here because it was diluted. one wine
27:53mixed with the same wine that Jes Okay, so it wasn't the same wine then. >> It doesn't need to be identical wine. As you said previously, we actually have you on recording. Wait, hold on. Hold on. We actually have you on recording saying that it isn't going to be the same wine in heaven. You just >> It doesn't Wait, hold on. You just got
28:09ragd doll. You just got ragd doll because you already seated previously. Wait, no. I wasn't talking. >> You can speak after I'm done talking, Don. >> You just got You justedated. One was regular wine, one was sour wine. >> Okay, beautiful. Is Jesus going to drink the exact same wine in his father's kingdom? >> Vinegar. Wait, hold on. Jesus.
28:27>> Is Jesus going to drink the exact same wine in his father's kingdom? >> No. Oh, Jesus. [laughter] >> Exactly. Exactly. So, it's not going to be the exact same wine. That's a confession. So, it doesn't matter if it's not the exact same wine because when Jesus I'm in the middle of talking. You don't need to freak out. You just
28:43got ragd doll. You already conceded that in his father's I'm in the middle of talking. You don't need to freak out. you just conceded that Jesus is not going to be drinking the exact same wine in his father's kingdom with the 12. So when Jesus says, and I quote, "I will not drink from this uh fruit of the vine
29:03from now up until when I am with you in my father's kingdom," if the wine that he's drinking in his father's kingdom is not the same exact wine, then it doesn't need to be the same exact wine in order for him to be a liar. So now we've establish that I'm in the middle of talking. You can still hear me, right?
29:20>> So we've already established that it's not going to be the exact same wine from that exact same cup. It just needs to be wine. That's the parallel that's made. So did Wait, hold [laughter] on. No, wait, hold on. So you're going to have to answer my question now. >> Can we dialogue? What is happening? >> We can dialogue, but I'm responding to
29:39what you said. >> So wait, hold on. But you have to answer my question. Did Jesus drink wine in John 19 up >> Duron? Did Jesus drink wine in John 19? >> YES. [laughter] >> NO. Watch this. Cora, let me ask you. Are you done? >> Bro, BTA, man. BTA.
30:00>> Yeah, I'm done. You can speak now. >> Cora. Did Jesus turn water into wine? >> Sure, we'll grant that. >> Did that come from a vine on earth? >> Wine is still from the vine inherently. >> Wait, no. I'm asking you a question. Did Jesus turn water into wine? >> Yes. >> Did that w Did that water come from a
30:16vine on earth? >> The water? No. >> That he turned into water? >> The wine. Wine inherently comes from the vine. >> When Jesus turned water into wine, >> the wine inherently come from any vine on earth. >> Okay, perfect. When Jesus turns water to wine, wine inherently comes from the fruit of the vine regardless. >> He said absolutely nothing.
30:37>> This dog just said wine came from a B. >> I said water came from a vine. When did I say that drawn? >> You can't you can't make it up, Chad. >> Wait, when did I say that drawn? >> Does God if I said if Jesus turned water into wine? >> Mhm. >> Did that wine come from a vine?
30:52>> No. Not by necessity. Thank you. And you want to know why? You came supernatural occurrence. >> Jesus. Okay. No, that's a supernatural. So, wait, hold on. You want to know? You want to know the issue with that, Don? Wait, I'm responding. That right there. >> Yeah. You don't have time to get baked either, but you're sitting here doing it
31:09regardless. Let's go ahead and establish something. Miraculous claims and conflating miraculous claims with worldly matters is a category error. So you giving the example of Jesus's miracle is a complete and utter category error. A mistaken fallacy that you probably didn't even know you were falling into.
31:29>> So Deron, I'm going to ask you one more time. >> Oh my goodness. >> Does Jesus say that he is not going to drink? >> Did you say you were going to take wine? Wait, hold on. >> You literally did not say We didn't agree to you taking up the whole time. >> We're going to answer two questions.
31:42Don, >> you're not answering no more questions. >> YOU'RE NOT ANSWERING. OH, IS THAT A TOP OUT? We can talk about Islam now. You're talking just rambling. You're not making >> No, it's okay. We can talk about Islam now. If you're topped out, that's fine. >> Thank you. Okay, I'm topped out. Let's talk about Islam. [laughter] >> Okay, for sure. Let's talk about it.
31:58Tapped out, man. >> Beautiful. Let's >> go. Guys, this is about to get this about to get real. Everybody get your cameras out. >> Do me a favor. What is the Quran? What is the Quran? >> Yeah. >> The Quran is a recitation given to the prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him through the angel Gabriel.
32:14>> Can you show me in the Quran that it's a recitation? >> The word Quran by definition is recitation. Do you know Arabic? >> Can you can you again? Can you show me the Quran? >> Wait, do you know what the word means in the Quran that it is a recitation? >> Yeah. Perfect. So Quran is an Arabic
32:27word. What does the word Quran mean? >> Tell me. Go ahead. >> It means recitation. >> We're going to see. We're going to see in a minute. I'm going to show you in the Quran means recitation. >> You sure? >> So the word Quran means recitation. Do you agree with me? >> Are you I'm asking you. Are you sure?
32:39>> Yes, I am sure. The word Quran is >> Can you turn Can you Okay. Can you turn to surah chapter 15 verse one? >> Sure. >> Let's get 15 verse one. Ch. You can't make it up. Chat,
33:01>> share the live, guys. Share the live. Let's get it to a K. >> Yeah, please say cheese. You got a lot of people watching you. >> Yeah. Say cheese for the YouTube, bro. >> I hope you Hey, you're going to post this one, too, right? >> Oh, always. >> Okay. I just want to make sure you're
33:16going to you're not going to post yours, but you're not. >> The whole thing is getting dropped. Don't you worry. >> Okay. So, Surah 15 vers1 says what? >> Chapter 15 verse one. >> Yeah. What it say? >> That's verse one. Alamra. >> Yeah. What does it say? Translate. No translation. What does it say in English?
33:40>> What does this Okay, are you going to run? You're going to run? >> I'm running. That's the That's the first chat. That is the first verse. >> What [laughter] does it mean? Okay, tell me what it means. >> Okay, perfect. So, in the Quran, we have these disconnected letters that we don't claim that we know the meaning of.
33:57>> Hey, Chad, you can't make it up. Chad l. >> Do you have a problem? >> What does this say? Al if lamb. It's three Arabic letters. >> Okay. What does it mean? >> We don't claim to know the meaning. >> SHE'S COOKED, CHAD. SHE'S COOKED, CHAD.
34:18SHE'S COOKED. >> I'M GOOD. >> YOU CAN'T make this up. >> I'm cooked. >> It says, "These are the verses of the clear." >> Is that verse [laughter] one or verse two? >> Oh my god. THAT'S VERSE ONE. >> NO, VERSE one is And then it says, "These are the verses of >> these are the verses of the book."
34:38>> You cannot make this up, Chad. You cannot make this up. That's verse two, you idiot. >> Okay. So, okay. So, what? >> Okay, perfect. So, you made >> What does verse two say? What does verse two say? >> These are the verses of the scripture. A Quran that makes things clear. >> Correct. Is it clear? >> Yes.
34:57>> That is scripture. >> Yes. And it's scripture. Was this verse revealed before or after the death of the prophet Muhammad? >> Obviously before the death of the prophet Muhammad. >> Okay. Where does it say it's a recitation? It says it's a book. >> When it says Quran, what do you think Quran means? >> It literally says in right before that
35:14it said it's a book. >> Okay. Kab. >> Yes. >> What does kab mean by necessity? >> It means book. The root word is okay. >> No, listen. The root word doesn't necessitate. Wait, >> it actually means to write. So, yes, >> Kaba is a root word. >> KTB is the root word for >> KTB. [laughter]
35:36>> Bro, don't speak about Arabic with an Arabic speaker. Don, you're getting ragdollled right now. >> Duran, you're getting raged. >> Who are you? Are you a bot? >> Wait, KTB is the root word. Dude, >> are you a bot? >> HEY, [laughter] KABOT is the root word. >> You guys are you guys? What are you talking about?
35:56>> Word for you guys taught me that. >> You guys taught me that. Who is you guys? Who is you guys? >> Muslims. Muslims taught me that. >> Am I Muslims? Am I Muslims? >> Are you not a Muslim? >> Am I Muslims? Plural. >> Hey, clip this guys. We're going to fact check her after it. It is the word. A
36:11root word of kaba? No. Kaba is not the root word of kab. >> What's the root word for kitab? >> Insignificant. >> Oh my god, she's running. >> Wow, she's running. >> You butchered. >> Wow, she's running. Somebody clip this. Kab is the root word. I think somebody I think somebody lied to bro to be honest with you.
36:30>> What does the word kab mean? >> Kab kab can mean scripture. Kab can mean book whether it be physical or whether it be a recitation. It's not limited or >> what does it say? It could be a recitation. >> Any Arabic dictionary you want to open. >> What does it say? It could be >> any Arabic dictionary because we're
36:45speaking about we're speaking about the Arabic language. So, we're going to be using people who know the Arabic language, not Don Dorsy from Tik Tok. >> All right. Beautiful. Can you read sir chapter 3:3? >> 3:3. All right. We have it memorized, but we're going to do it in the English regardless.
37:07Perfect. God, there is no god but him, etc., etc. All right. Perfect. He has sent down the scripture to you with truth confirming what was before it just as he sent down the Torah and the gospel. >> Beautiful. So you agreed that a book it says kab, right? Is that the word in Arab? >> Yes. >> Okay. So he sent down a book to the
37:27prophet confirming the books that came before. Correct. >> Yes. So is book [laughter] Wait, hold on. So now I'm going to ask the So now I'm going to ask the questions. Does kab necessitate physicality? Don in the Arabic language. [laughter] >> Wait. So, so when I say kab in the Arabic language, it necessitates scripture. But does it Oh, [screaming]
37:45it means scripture. Perfect. So, it means scripture. We say scripture. >> Beautiful. Beautiful. Beautiful. Beautiful. During talking about you understand the air fryer you just hopped in. So, you said it means scripture. Does all scripture need to be physically written down? Don. >> Yeah, that's what it means. Describe to write. >> Wait. So, all scripture needs to be
38:04physically written down. So, when you're going Okay, perfect. Perfect. So, when Wait, hold on. [laughter] I I'm asking the questions. I'm asking the question. Wait, hold on. I'm not running. It's an So, I'm going to test your consistency. Let's see if you know what you're talking about. Let's see if you know what you're talking about. >> Please stop running.
38:19>> Scripture necessitates physicality. >> Wait, I'm the one speaking now. I'm the one speaking now. Don, >> no, you're not. I >> I mean, I clearly am. >> I asked you if scripture necessitates physicality. Do you agree or do you >> Can we just have a Can we just have an intellectual convers? Can we just talk about the Bible or talk about the Quran?
38:36>> Talk about the Bible. >> You're literally rambling. You're not you're not really answering responding to your points. >> I'm asking you again. What? This is a cross- examination. Now you cross-examine me. Now it's my turn to cross-examine you. >> Let's hear it. >> What is a kab? >> Kab can be scripture. It can be book whether it be physical or in recitation
38:51form. >> So okay. So if I say something out of my mouth, is that a kab? >> If I have scripture and it's orally recited from God, it can be considered a kab before it's written down. >> Okay. So if it's a scripture that I recite from, then it can be reversed. >> I never said recite from. I said if it's
39:08orally recited for example the example that's given down hold on if Allah gives you revelation and you orally recite it yes it can be considered kab >> so only when it comes to ALLAH SO IF I specifically because means and scripture
39:30is divine correct >> if I say something to you and you RECITE WHAT I SAY ABOUT SCRIPTURE >> IS that a kab Is it divine scripture? >> Oh my gosh, bro. Because we're talking about we're talking about the actual definition of previously Don as you said previously. Don, >> you are embarrassing yourself. Please stop. >> You said previously that kab means
39:50scripture. So if you receive scripture from God and you orally recite it to your people, yes, that can be considered kab before it is physically written down. >> Okay. Okay. So you're saying my recitation can be considered a kab even before it's written down >> if it's from God. If it's scripture. Yes. >> Okay. So it's only ONLY WITH GOD.
40:12>> YES. Cuz means scripture here. >> Okay. We'll see. Well, let's see. The scripture in >> Okay. Surah 2:2 says this. This is not talking about the revelation. But it's saying this is a which we have sent down and there is no doubt. No, it says
40:32no no it says this is the scripture [laughter] means the don't talk Arabic as an Arabic speaker. >> Wait. Okay. So this is the what? >> This is the scripture. >> Okay.
40:54I got you. I got you. I got you. I got you. Is there a doubt about it? >> No. Without Without any doubt. Why are you making me doubt that it's an actual scripture or a kab when you're saying that it's oral? >> You already conceded that scripture and means. You said that scripture and you didn't say that.
41:09>> Well, script Yeah, scripture means to ascribe. It means some writing. >> Okay. So, wait. So, scripture needs to be physically written down. >> What's the word scripture come from? >> Scripture. Wait, hold on. Scripture physically needs to be written down. >> What does the word scripture come from? >> Wait, answer the question. Scripture physically needs to be written down.
41:23>> This girl's running for real. >> Answer the question. Does scripture need to be written down? >> Questions. Cora. Answer the question. Does scripture need to be written down physically in order for it to be considered scripture? >> It has to be written first and then I recite the scripture. >> Okay, beautiful. So when Jesus was going
41:38out and proclaiming the gospel, was it not scripture [laughter] before it was compiled 15 years after he >> down? Remember, >> wait, was it not scripture before that? >> Answer. Wait, answer the question. Was it not scripture before that? >> I'm going to answer you now. I'm going to answer you. It says all scripture was given by inspiration written.
41:54>> It says THE HOLY WORD OF GOD. NO, IT SAYS all scripture is God's breed. >> Oh my gosh, dude. >> All scripture, Don. All scripture is God's breed. Was the gospel of Jesus Christ? >> Scripture was written. It It literally says that all scripture was given byation written BY HOLY MEN.
42:15>> YEAH, PAUL says that. Yes, Paul says that. So, let me ask you this question, Don. >> Oh my gosh, dude. Beautiful. Beautiful. Wait, no, no, Don. I can still ask [laughter] questions. >> Why are you asking? When you were getting cross-examined, I allowed you to answer that last question. >> Getting destroyed. >> Destroyed. >> So, answer my question. When Jesus was
42:32going out and proclaiming the gospel, wait, let me ask you. >> STOP ASKING ME QUESTIONS. >> NO, NO, NO, NO. I have to. It's a clarifying question. >> You had your opportunity. No, >> it is a clarifying question. >> This is a cross-examination. >> Oh, yeah. But during your cross Wait, hold on. While I was cross-examining you, were you asking questions?
42:50>> Please. >> When I When I was cross-examining you, were you asking questions through? No, I wasn't. I WAS ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION. >> NO, YOU WERE asking questions, bud. >> Cora, you're trying to take over the You're trying to take over THE CONVERSATION >> AND IT'S GOING very easy for me. So, Don, let's look at IT LIKE THIS. DURON,
43:06>> can I read scripture not scripture? Wait, hold on. Is divine scripture not divine scripture before it's written down? >> Oh my god. Bro, are I'm going to wait for you. I'm going to wait for you. >> No, answer the question. Is divine scripture not considered divine scripture before it's written? >> Answer the question. Is divine scripture
43:24not considered divine scripture before it's written? >> I'm not answering nothing. >> Okay, perfect. Then I'll establish it for you. According to Don Dorsy, according to Don Dorsy, divine scripture is not considered divine scripture before it's written down. So therefore, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John were not divine scripture up until the point in which all of Jesus's words were
43:44physically written down on manuscripts and so on and so forth. So you're baked. Jesus's words, [laughter] quote unquote, were not scripture up until they physically wrote it down. >> That's embarrassing. Don, >> are you done? >> You can continue with your argument now that we've established that. BTA, >> thank you. So, your Quran says that the Kab came down directly to the prophet
44:03Muhammad, right? >> Yep. >> Okay. But you agreed that there was a kab that was compiled after his death, correct? >> The Sure. The Musaf was compiled. The Musf was compiled after his death. >> Yeah. But why did it take 23 years? Why' the scripture take because of progressive revelation? >> You sure? >> Yes. >> Can you read sir? I already heard you
44:22got cooked on it, but can you read uh Surah 44:2 to4? >> Sure. Let's get it. >> Chapter 44. >> Yeah, they're not Muslim, you guys. >> 44. Wait, chapter 44 verse what? >> 44:24. Can you read that? >> Perfect. She believes that the revelation that came to the prophet Muhammad came down
44:43via the angel Gabriel over a period of 23 years and was later compiled after the death of the prophet Muhammad. Let's see what Allah says. >> Okay, perfect. 44:es 2-4. >> Yeah. And I quote, [clears throat] "Indeed, sorry, by the clear book, indeed we sent it down on a blessed night." Yeah, by the clear key tab.
45:05>> Okay, we sent it down. We sent it down on a blessed night for we always warn against evil. >> Next verse. >> Next verse. >> On that night, every matter of wisdom is ordained. >> Why are you saying 23 years when Allah says, I sent it in one night? >> That's a good question because Allah also says in surah 43:31,
45:25what the disbelievers say, why was this not revealed in one night? So Allah is taunting the disbelievers for asking why was the Quran not [laughter] all sent in one go. So Allah does what? He responds. Wait, I'm I'm not I'm not done talking. Allah responds to the disbelievers in
45:47the chapter right before that. >> Wait, no, no, Allah responds to the disbelievers in the chapter right before that. >> I'm not done talking. Are you freaking out? >> Is that a P and not P? >> Are you freaking out? Is that a P and not P? >> No. No P and not P. You >> say we indeed by the clerky tab we sent
46:06it down on a blessed night. But that night all manner OF WISDOM WAS >> WAS ORDAINED. >> And then and then what else does he say? Go ahead. What else does he say? >> Okay. And he taunts the disbelievers for saying [laughter] that what? Why wasn't all of the revelation sent in one go? So let me ask
46:22you a question. So let me ask you a question. [laughter] Let me ask you a question Don. What is the context of 44 verse1 uh 1 through 4? What's the context? >> Oh my lord, she just got dogwalled. The context of 44. CORA, >> WOULD YOU like me to contradiction in the Quran? >> Wait, would you like me to enlighten
46:40you? >> Wait, is that a is that a contradiction or not? >> Nope. Cuz a contradiction is too big. Show me why it's not a contradiction. Show me why it's not a contradiction. Go ahead. >> Perfect. We're about to bake Don Dorsy. 44:ES 1-4 is speaking about the Quran being sent down to where? Specifically [laughter] to the lowest heaven.
47:01>> And this is in the it's in the you want to know why? Because me as [laughter] a Muslim because me as a Muslim I am not to reconcile the >> and I solo scripture. Last I checked I'm a Sunni Don. That's funny. >> Last I checked I'm a Sunni side of the Quran to actually SUBSTANTIATE THAT
47:20CONTRADICTION. >> LAST I CHECKED I'm a Sunni Don which means I don't only Quran. I accept Quran and Sunnah. So now Don 44 I'm not done talking. You see the way [laughter] for all 800 people in this live is he not freaking 1.4K. You want
47:42to see? He's freaking out, guys. So, you're going to allow me to talk. You're going to ALLOW ME TO TALK. LET'S go ahead and establish why this is not a contradiction. CORRECT. DOWN. >> PUT THE bandaid on the pipe down. It's okay. Don, you just cooked yourself. Thank you. You just cooked yourself. 44 is talking about the Quran specifically
48:01being sent down to the lowest heaven. The surah 43 as well as 25. I'm not solar. So surah where is he getting that information as well as surah 25 that's a good question uh the hadith of Abbas >> where does he where is he getting that information >> the hadith of Abbas the cousin of the prophet sallallahu alaihi
48:18>> and what does it say what does it say that the Quran was sent down to the lowest heaven on this night [laughter] >> this is so embarrassing you're stumb spoken [laughter] to somebody who knows what they're talking about
48:39confused. So even the prophet Muhammad peace and blessings be upon him. Listen, >> the prophet Muhammad information >> the prophet Muhammad. >> So the prophet Muhammad who says that the earth belongs to him and Allah that one >> is there a problem with that? >> So the earth belongs to Allah and his apostle. >> Is there an issue? Do you have a
48:57problem? >> I thought the earth belongs to >> reflection by the way. And that's a deflection. >> You want to know why that's [laughter] a deflection? Because Abbas Abbas says that the Quran was sent down to the lowest heaven on this night in the in the hadith is in the >> Okay, can I can I prove you wrong?
49:15>> Prove me wrong from the >> No. Can I prove you wrong that you're waiting [laughter] me wrong that Abbas didn't say that? >> Watch this. WATCH THIS. JUST PROVE THAT ABBAS DIDN'T SAY THAT. WAIT, answer the question. Are you going to prove that Abbas DIDN'T SAY THAT? >> RELAX, DUDE. >> WAIT, answer the question. Are you going
49:27to prove that Abbas didn't say that? Yes or no? >> This is not your CROSS EXAM. RELAX. >> YEAH, I mean it really is now. It seems like I'm controlling the conversation quite well. >> Corora. Corora. Corora. So you agreed that the revelation that came down to the prophet Muhammad came over a period of 23 years and you agreed that that was
49:45compiled after the death of the prophet Muhammad. >> The mus was compiled after the death of the prophet blessings be upon him. Specifically the physical mus that we have. There's a distinction between [laughter] Quran and musf. These are two different. >> Okay. And you agree that at that in the cave it only came down orally. Correct? >> Yes.
50:05>> Okay. Let's test our knowledge as a Muslim. What was the first thing the angel told the prophet Muhammad to do in the cave? >> Uh, >> what does that mean? >> Read. Recite. >> Does it mean read? >> It can mean either. >> What does the prophet Muhammad respond? >> I'm not one who knows how to read.
50:23>> Well, what was he reading if it came down orally? >> That's a good question. The prophet peace and blessings be upon That's a good question. [laughter] I'M IN THE MIDDLE OF TALKING. >> Welcome to the freaking body bag. >> Look down. >> Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him. >> Corora. Corora. Corora. >> No, you need to calm down.
50:37>> So listen, Dan, when you cross examine somebody, >> Kora, Kora, read the chat. >> Oh, THE CHAT IS SAYING DAN demon manifesting. >> The Quran says >> the chat is saying >> THEY HAVE SENT DOWN TO YOU. >> THE CHAT IS saying that you're getting baked. By the way, the information >> The chat is saying [laughter] doesn't
50:54know what a Muslim said read. Okay. >> Okay, perfect. If it was Torah, what was he reading? >> That's a good question. It's answered later in the hadith. >> I know it was. >> So later in the prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him, it's clarified to him what he needs to read because then the angel says,
51:10"And then Muhammad, peace [laughter] be upon him, recites him." >> So what did he read? Wait, Dan, what did he read? >> What does it say, >> Dan? What did he read? >> WHAT DID THE PROPHET MUHAMMAD peace and blessings be upon him heard? What did he read? WHAT DID IT SAY >> DAN? What did he read?
51:28>> Read in the name of your Lord. >> Yes. And peace be upon him. What did he do after that? >> He didn't say I am not one. And you want to know what's so crazy about that? Duran. >> Duran, you don't need to manifest. Calm down. Duran, you don't need to manifest. >> And the angel, >> you don't need TO MANIFEST.
51:48>> WHAT WAS HE READING? >> DON, you do not need to manifest. So when the angel says, Hey, do me a favor. Do me a favor. Look down. >> Embarrassing. Embarrassing. >> What they saying down there? Core. >> Uh, they're all saying >> body bag. That's what [laughter] they saying. >> They're all saying he not only got
52:08>> he got grilled and marinated. He >> literally just got body bagged. >> I got bodybu. >> So, let me ask you this. So, if the prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him, thought that he was going to physically read something, why did he no longer say, "I do not know how to read." After the angel said,
52:23why did he not say, "I do not know how to read." After that, >> yeah, because the angel was trying to get him to read and he couldn't. >> But then why doesn't he say, "I I'm not one who knows how to read after the angel said that." >> So, WHAT DID HE MEAN? >> WAIT, ANSWER THE QUESTION. ANSWER THE
52:33QUESTION. WELL, [laughter] AFTER THAT POINT, why did the ang Wait, sorry. When the angel says, "Why does the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam no longer say, I am not one who knows how to read?" Why doesn't he say that again? >> Because after he asked him to read the Quran, he couldn't. So that's why the Quran had to be revealed to the prophet.
52:52>> No, incorrect. Wrong answer. Class is in session. We're going to be teaching you the reason why the prophet Muhammad peace and blessings be upon [laughter] him does not repeat it again. Wait, I'm in the middle of talking. When the prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon classes in session. Dan, respect the teacher. >> Respect the teacher. Don,
53:12>> the angel said means read. Responded, I CANNOT READ. I AM NOT ONE OF THOSE. >> Verbal revelation. >> Yes, verbal revelation. >> He said three times read. What was he reading if there was nothing to read? >> That's a good question. The fourth time the angel says it. The fourth time the angel tells him what [laughter] to read.
53:29The first verse is revealed in the Quran. No, [laughter] the first three is because the angel didn't tell him what to RECITE YET. THAT'S THE PRINCE. When the angel says, you start the angel says read. I am not one who knows how to read. Read. I am not one who knows how to read. He says, [laughter] "And the prophet,
53:49I'm not done talking." Thank you. I'M NOT DONE TALKING. WHEN THE angel says, "Wait, hold on. I'm in the middle of talking." Duran, have some respect for yourself. >> You talk over me the whole time. >> Yeah. Have some respect for yourself. One more time. Yeah. Yeah. And during a cross exam, the opponent gets the ability to answer without interruption.
54:08So, be quiet, Jan. And you're getting absolutely body. You're getting absolutely >> Have a nice freaking day, bro. Absolutely [laughter] dog walk. >> What an idiot. Don just got him. He doesn't even know how to drop me. >> You just got >> He doesn't even know how to [laughter] drop me.
54:29>> Don doesn't even KNOW HOW TO DROP ME, MAN. [laughter] What's up [screaming] WITH THAT, BRO? WHAT'S UP with that? WHAT DO Y'ALL KNOW ABOUT THAT,