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0:00HEYYO, WHAT'S UP! WHAT'S UP!
0:01IT'S YOUR BOY, ISA ISARB!
0:01ALRIGHT!
0:03So today, I want to show you guys.
0:06Who exactly are the Rohingya?
0:22So this isn't really an educational video.
0:25This is what I want to find out.
0:27Because I'm really upset.
0:28When I see all those short videos on TikTok.
0:30On Threads, they fight back,
0:32they dirty the parks.
0:35They take over an area.
0:37It made me think...
0:39"Isa, right now, you need to do 1 study."
0:43Where did they actually come from?
0:45Who are they?
0:46And what is the solution to reduce
0:49their impact on this country?
0:52You get it? For example.
0:54We find out, okay.
0:55Maybe the way they're spreading
0:56is by entering through Penang,
1:00or entering through Johor.
1:02So from there, we'll know, okay.
1:05The solution is to stop them
1:07from entering through this area. Just an example.
1:10Because I don't know either.
1:11What exactly am I trying to find out?
1:13What I know, just like you guys,
1:14is the same as what you know,
1:15just the basics.
1:16But now, my team and I
1:19are going to conduct a comprehensive study.
1:21We're going all out. If we need to go to Myanmar,
1:24we'll go to Myanmar.
1:25If we need to go to Bangladesh,
1:27we'll go to Bangladesh.
1:28It doesn't matter,
1:28as long as we can find out the root cause
1:31and where all of this started.
1:33Alright? So, let's discuss it.
1:35Argh!
1:40Alright.
1:40So first of all, Zul,
1:42let's find out who they are first.
1:45Who are they?
1:51This is what's available on the internet.
1:53I'll first show you what's available online.
1:56What's on social media?
1:59The basic facts.
2:00After that, we'll do
2:01a more in-depth investigation,
2:03where we'll conduct the interviews ourselves.
2:05We'll go there ourselves.
2:06And see.
2:07Yeah, we'll go and see those areas ourselves.
2:10So according to what's on the internet,
2:12the Rohingya are originally from Myanmar.
2:16From 1 place called Arakan.
2:18Okay, Arakan. Then,
2:20the people of Myanmar.
2:22When they gained independence,
2:25let's use Malaysia as an example.
2:26We gained independence. Then,
2:28suddenly all the Malays say,
2:30"Hey, Chinese, you're not a citizen here."
2:32"You have to leave," and the government supports it too.
2:34So Chinese people can't get an ID card.
2:36Yeah, that's the analogy,
2:37that's the analogy.
2:38So the Rohingya are a different ethnic group
2:43in Myanmar.
2:44So, the Rohingya.
2:45So the Rohingya
2:47are a different ethnic group in Myanmar.
2:49But the people of Myanmar don't accept
2:51that you're a group of people
2:53who have always been in Myanmar.
2:55They say you actually came from another country.
2:57The people of Myanmar say that they
2:59came from Bengal.
3:01Because Myanmar and India
3:02were colonized by the same European power,
3:07the British.
3:08So the people of Myanmar say,
3:09"You guys are actually Bengali."
3:11"You came from Bengal."
3:12"So now that we've gained independence,
3:14you can leave and go back."
3:15But India doesn't want to accept them either.
3:17Myanmar doesn't want to accept them either.
3:19And they've constantly had conflicts.
3:22Conflict, conflict, conflict, conflict, conflict,
3:24until 2017.
3:26There was this Rohingya armed group,
3:28and they attacked Myanmar.
3:30They attacked Myanmar, something...
3:32A major conflict broke out.
3:36Then the Myanmar military
3:37responded, boom!
3:39And the Myanmar side, yeah,
3:41used their military too.
3:43So that's what caused
3:44all these Rohingya people to flee everywhere,
3:48in every direction, and most
3:50Rohingya are now in Bangladesh.
3:53Why?
3:54Because Bangladesh is next to Myanmar.
3:56Oh, so it's like a center.
3:58Yes, a refugee center.
4:00Yeah, a refugee camp.
4:01So there are several places,
4:02like Cox's Bazar.
4:04then they were sent away.
4:06And then there's Myanmar.
4:07It's extremely dangerous there right now.
4:10There's a really serious conflict going on.
4:12They cut people up, behead them and everything.
4:15Yeah, that I don't know.
4:16Okay, let's put the Rohingya issue aside for now.
4:19Let's put that aside first.
4:20The Rohingya are in Myanmar, right?
4:21What happened in Myanmar in 2021
4:24made things even worse for the Rohingya.
4:28So in 2021, imagine the head of Malaysia's military,
4:32Malaysia's Defense Minister,
4:33being unhappy with Anwar Ibrahim.
4:35For example, Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim,
4:37he's unhappy with the government.
4:39What does he do?
4:41He arrests the Prime Minister.
4:43He seizes power.
4:45You get it? The military seizes power.
4:48Yeah, that's the analogy.
4:50But that's what happened there.
4:51The military seized power.
4:53When the military seized control of the government,
4:56there were many groups on the ground,
4:59PEKIDA groups,
5:01local brotherhood groups,
5:04groups that aren't just gangsters,
5:06groups... what do you call them?
5:08Neighborhood groups.
5:11That's the analogy.
5:13But there are smaller groups
5:15in Myanmar that actually have pistols,
5:18they have rifles,
5:18they have everything.
5:20So when the government was overthrown,
5:22and it was a government they supported,
5:25which the military forcibly took over,
5:28they arrested all the politicians. Everyone was arrested.
5:30They seized the government.
5:31He became the Prime Minister.
5:33So the groups
5:34supporting the government, like PEKIDA,
5:36groups from the Klang area,
5:38Selangor groups,
5:40JMF groups from Johor,
5:42all of them started fighting the government military.
5:46The new government military that seized power.
5:50The ones who seized power.
5:51...
5:51Pap, pap, pap, pap, pap, pap.
5:52So when it comes to the Rohingya,
5:54who's fighting whom now?
5:57First, the government military.
5:59The government military and the Rohingya.
6:01Now in the Rohingya area,
6:02there's also the Arakan group.
6:04What is the Arakan Army?
6:05They're like PEKIDA groups,
6:06local groups,
6:07local armed groups,
6:10made up of civilians,
6:11a civilian army.
6:12They're currently fighting the government.
6:14So what happens to the Rohingya?
6:16The Rohingya are stuck in the middle.
6:17Both sides are in their area.
6:22For example, in an area where the military is strong
6:24and controls the territory,
6:25they force the Rohingya to become soldiers.
6:28So the Rohingya are like cattle?
6:29Yeah, like cattle. They're forced to become soldiers.
6:31Soldiers... government soldiers.
6:33Then on the other side,
6:34the PEKIDA-like groups I mentioned earlier,
6:37the civilian groups do the same thing.
6:40They force Rohingya people to join their forces,
6:42to become soldiers for them,
6:44to fight against the government.
6:46So on both sides, the Rohingya
6:47are forcibly recruited.
6:49By force.
6:50So that's why from 2021 onward,
6:55suddenly you see Malaysia flooded
6:57and Bangladesh flooded with Rohingya. That's why,
7:00because their ethnic group is under pressure.
7:02They're not even citizens there.
7:05You get it? Number 1, whether it's the government,
7:08the local bosses there,
7:10or these smaller armed groups,
7:12none of them consider the Rohingya citizens.
7:15Then they're forced to become soldiers
7:16to fight for who, right?
7:18So they flee to Bangladesh.
7:20But now the question is,
7:23if the people in Myanmar
7:24hate them so much,
7:27there must be a reason.
7:29And once we know the reasons I mentioned earlier,
7:31the underlying reasons,
7:32the reasons we can see with our own...
7:34Naked eyes?
7:36Not with our naked eyes.
7:36What we can find on Google,
7:38then why do Malaysians
7:40hate them so much as well?
7:42You guys get it?
7:43That's the answer we need to find.
7:45Because when they first started coming in,
7:47Malaysians were okay with it.
7:49I even saw the government organizing programs,
7:52programs like,
7:53"Good night, Rohingya."
7:55Yeah, good night, Rohingya.
7:59Then suddenly, by 2026,
8:02starting from 2023,
8:05suddenly everyone started disliking the Rohingya.
8:09Because I've seen the same thing before, you know?
8:11With the Palestinians back then,
8:12Palestinians to help them,
8:14where did they put them?
8:15That hospital.
8:16Yeah, that hospital.
8:17Suddenly people started disliking
8:19the Palestinians.
8:20You get it?
8:21There was that period. For 1 week, 2 weeks,
8:23I saw Malaysians talking about it on social media.
8:25So now people dislike the Rohingya.
8:28So the answer we need to find now is,
8:30what made
8:31Malaysians dislike them?
8:33That's the first question we want answered.
8:35Number 1,
8:36why don't Malaysians like them?
8:38Right?
8:40So,
8:41we'll go to areas
8:42where there are many Rohingya.
8:44Okay.
8:45And we'll ask
8:47the people...
8:49Not the Rohingya,
8:50we'll ask the people who live there
8:53why they don't like the Rohingya.
8:55You get it?
8:56Then we'll be able to find the real reason
8:57why they don't like the Rohingya.
9:02Some of them can open shops.
9:05Yeah, that's another thing Malaysians don't like.
9:07How can they open shops?
9:08That, I don't know.
9:10I think they marry Malaysians.
9:11They marry Malaysians?
9:12Yeah, they use their wife's name.
9:15Let's first go to an area with many Rohingya
9:17and interview people.
9:18What are we calling this operation?
9:20Ops! Ops Roro.
9:22Ops Roro?
9:23Ops Roro.
9:24Okay, let's go! Ops Roro!
9:25Ops Roro!
9:26Alright! Let's go to Selayang Market!
10:17Don't get separated from us, okay?
10:19Yeah.
10:27Is it sweet?
10:28Is this longan sweet?
10:30How much is this?
10:31"Warpa." Hahaha!
10:36Do you have tissues?
10:41Do you know Awie MBR?
10:43Do you know Koroy?
10:45He came running over.
10:46"Hey, it's TikTok."
10:48Yeah, I know him.
10:49You know him?
10:50He came the other day too. I didn't meet him.
10:53Where does he usually come around here?
10:55Where does he usually go?
10:56He goes up there in front.
10:58He doesn't come here.
10:59The new market is up ahead.
11:00Over there, where they butcher chickens.
11:02What's that? Chicken butchering?
11:03The people here are Indian.
11:07They're over there.
11:09Yeah, over that side?
11:11Yeah, over there.
11:13Selayang Market?
11:14This is Selayang Market, right?
11:15This whole area is Selayang Market, right?
11:17Yeah.
11:17It's up ahead there.
11:18Yeah, those houses where they sell things.
11:21Oh, isn't this the place?
11:22He doesn't come here.
11:27Hahahaha!
11:29How do we get to the back, bro?
11:33Go through here, straight to the end.
11:37Yeah, okay, okay, okay.
11:51Whoa, nice.
11:53There's a lot of garlic.
11:56Are these bean sprouts?
11:58Oh, no wonder people come here.
12:00Okay.
12:01All the restaurants must
12:02buy their supplies here.
12:04This is wholesale.
12:04Because it's wholesale, yeah.
12:06For traders, food vendors and so on?
12:08But I want to interview someone.
12:11But they're afraid to meet people.
12:13Yeah. Because Awie already came and shook things up.
12:15They're scared.
12:16Look, even when we walked past earlier, they...
12:17Look at that.
12:18They're all watching now,
12:19with their cameras ready.
12:20Hahahaha!
12:21Hahahaha!
12:22Oh, no wonder everyone...
12:23When you entered from the front,
12:25they'd already called the people at the back.
12:26Oh, really?
12:27Hahahaha!
12:28Seriously?
12:29Oh, they tell each other immediately.
12:32So the people at the front already informed them?
12:34Yeah, from the front. The moment you left the parking lot,
12:37the message had already reached the back.
12:39Oh, it already reached them.
12:40There's TikTok, there's TikTok.
12:41There's TikTok, there's TikTok. Hahahaha!
12:45The news already traveled from the front to the back.
12:48Oh, these guys are something else.
12:49Hahahaha!
12:51You should eat here, bro.
12:57How much?
12:57RM2.
12:59Why is there milk?
13:02I don't want milk.
13:04You don't want milk?
13:08Just plain bread.
13:12As a supplier,
13:13what is the situation usually like around here?
13:15Before COVID, it was okay?
13:16Great?
13:17It was great before COVID.
13:18What's not okay now?
13:20These Myanmar people have taken over.
13:22The Myanmar people have taken over?
13:24Ohh...
13:28They're all inside the market.
13:31They really have taken over.
13:33They've already said it.
13:34Huh?
13:34"Malaysians
13:35can't enter the market."
13:36Oh, they said that?
13:37Yeah!
13:39"Malaysians can't come in."
13:40"Malaysians, don't interfere with our place."
13:43Which market? That regional market?
13:45The market inside, the one with the toll gate.
13:47The big market, yeah, inside there.
13:49There are no locals at all?
13:51There are some, but not many.
13:54Yeah. Are they Myanmar or Rohingya?
13:56There are Rohingya and Myanmar people.
13:58I just found out earlier from 1 Indian uncle.
14:02He told me that
14:04people here think they're all Rohingya,
14:07but they're actually not all Rohingya.
14:14There aren't any Rohingya.
14:14They're Myanmar people.
14:16Myanmar, Bugis, Burmese, Indian.
14:19Yeah.
14:21Yeah, Myanmar.
14:25There are more Myanmar people here than Rohingya.
14:28There are only a few Rohingya.
14:31They gather here.
14:32All of them?
14:34If things go a little too far,
14:35they're the type to do things behind your back,
14:37not to your face.
14:39What do you mean, behind your back?
14:40Yeah, if they're unhappy with us,
14:42Huh?
14:42they do things behind our backs.
14:45Not face-to-face.
14:46Whoa!
14:47That's why I said this place is dangerous.
14:49I swear.
14:51If people call Klang "Mexico,"
14:53do you know what this place is called?
14:56This is America.
14:57America? Brazil!
14:58Hahahaha! This is Brazil.
15:00Just 2 or 3 days ago,
15:02a Chinese guy got attacked from behind.
15:03Right here, with 2 metal objects like this.
15:06Just 2 or 3 days ago?
15:07A Chinese guy got attacked?
15:08By whom? Myanmar people?
15:09Myanmar.
15:10They're the type to attack from behind.
15:12They don't dare do it face-to-face.
15:13Yeah, they do it from behind.
15:15It happened to me before COVID.
15:17I got 18 stitches here.
15:18Why?
15:19They came from behind too. They weren't happy with me.
15:21Hahahaha!
15:2218 stitches here.
15:23Who did it?
15:24Myanmar people. Myanmar again.
15:26Whoa, that's seriously dangerous.
15:28This metropolitan area we're sitting in
15:33right now is quite dangerous.
15:35Yeah, this is a red zone.
15:37Did they attack you as a group?
15:39With a knife. They stabbed me.
15:41What did you do?
15:42There was nothing I could do.
15:43I just went to the hospital.
15:45How did the fight start?
15:46We just bumped into them a little.
15:49The pushcart hit them slightly.
15:51Just a little, and they got upset.
15:55He took out a knife?
15:56He took out a knife...
15:59Your leg?
16:01Did you report it to the police?
16:02Yes, I did.
16:03Didn't you have anyone backing you up?
16:04No bodyguards? Nothing?
16:08We have a lot of connections in this market too.
16:11I'm an old-timer. Hahahaha!
16:13Yeah.
16:13I've been in this market for 30 years.
16:15In this market?
16:1630 years.
16:17You're an old-timer.
16:19Is he there?
16:23Before COVID, right?
16:24Before COVID.
16:24But they're really crazy, aren't they?
16:27But they don't dare do it face-to-face.
16:30Why would they do that? Just relax.
16:38Yeah, we're recording.
16:39Hahahaha!
16:42The recording got wet.
16:43Hahahaha!
16:45When they came in 2011, they even brought what?
16:49Their buffaloes and cows,
16:50they tied them up in front of the bank
16:51before sacrificing them.
16:53Can they get married here?
16:54They put up tents here and hold weddings.
16:57Yes, I'm telling you honestly, I swear.
16:59Here?
17:01I've been working here for 15 years.
17:03It's the same. Nothing has changed.
17:04DBKL hasn't done anything.
17:06Nothing has changed.
17:07They shut them down,
17:08then they can just reopen.
17:10They can pay.
17:11They use Alibaba licenses.
17:13Alibaba licenses.
17:14Alibaba licenses.
17:15Their workers,
17:17yeah, their workers might be Rohingya,
17:19but the owner is Malay,
17:21Chinese or Indian.
17:22A local.
17:23Yeah! The owner is a local.
17:26Right.
17:26I understand, I understand.
17:27I'm just telling you.
17:29If you want to do something about it, go ahead.
17:33At least get the Member of Parliament to come down here.
17:35Yeah, then it would be right.
17:36Get the Member of Parliament and the minister to come down.
17:40Yeah.
17:41Come down here.
17:42Monitor it themselves.
17:44See what's happening.
17:45Why don't they want to do it?
17:47That's the question.
17:48Why don't they want to do it?
17:49Hahahaha!
17:50If you've been saying this for 15 years, why?
17:52Money, money.
17:53Money?
17:54It's not just since the Pakatan Harapan era.
17:56It was the same during the Barisan Nasional era.
17:59It's been like that for a long time.
18:02I've been here for 30 years myself.
18:05During which period was it?
18:07During COVID, they stopped
18:10foreign workers from going inside.
18:13So all those foreign workers
18:15started working outside here,
18:16which made things worse.
18:17So the workers
18:18started working for local businesses.
18:22The building owners raised the prices.
18:23They can afford it.
18:25They can pay RM15,000 in rent
18:27or RM10,000 a month.
18:28They can afford it.
18:29They can pay.
18:30They can pay?
18:31Because who are their customers?
18:33Their customers are major hotels.
18:35Oh!
18:37All the major hotels.
18:38I see. Because they're wholesalers.
18:41Oh, so they don't rely on walk-in customers.
18:44They already have regular customers.
18:45Customers that are practically guaranteed.
18:48Yeah.
18:49So they come here to get supplies,
18:51then deliver them to different hotels.
18:53JW Marriott or hotels in KL,
18:55and places like that.
18:56The big hotels.
18:57I understand, I understand, I understand, I understand.
18:58They supply them.
19:00Whether it's local chilies or whatever.
19:02Big restaurants too,
19:04they all get their supplies here.
19:06Sometimes those outside,
19:07the ones inside the wholesale market,
19:09bring their goods
19:10and open up here.
19:11Open up here?
19:12They claim their goods aren't selling.
19:14But actually, outside here,
19:16they have another shop too.
19:18I'm just telling you.
19:19What's their modus operandi?
19:21What happens inside again?
19:22When the goods don't sell, what happens?
19:23They bring the goods outside
19:24and sell them outside.
19:25Yeah.
19:27Because even to enter the market,
19:28you have to pay for parking.
19:30Right.
19:31Okay, this is 1 new thing
19:32we learned today.
19:33Because I interviewed several people earlier.
19:35They're trying to deceive people.
19:36If it doesn't sell inside, fine.
19:38Don't, don't, don't try to lie.
19:40Don't lie.
19:41They tell MCA,
19:43"Today's sales are bad, there's nothing."
19:45Then they'll bring out
19:47the goods that supposedly didn't sell.
19:49They'll split some of it here,
19:51and some inside.
19:52Oh, so that's how they operate.
19:55Aha. Aha. Okay.
19:58Around here, it's like...
20:03I used to see stronger enforcement and confiscations.
20:06During Zaleha's time,
20:07there were confiscations after confiscations.
20:09It would take them longer to reopen their shops.
20:11Yeah, but now confiscation does nothing.
20:15Even when a warning notice is posted, they reopen.
20:19They reopen?
20:20That's right.
20:21That's crazy.
20:26Just look at the trucks,
20:28cars and motorcycles.
20:29They don't even have licenses,
20:30I don't know who sells the vehicles to them.
20:32They can just ride motorcycles however they want.
20:34Cars too.
20:35Sometimes they even drive Alphards,
20:38not just ordinary cars,
20:40Alphards?
20:40and it's not locals driving them.
20:44Whoa!
20:51Sometimes they even
20:52come and rob the bank inside.
20:54Really?
20:57Man, this is a problem. How do we solve it?
21:00No, no, no. Here's what needs to happen.
21:03The military comes,
21:04Immigration comes,
21:05the police come, DBKL comes.
21:07Those 4 authorities need to come together.
21:10No matter what, search everything. These houses
21:13aren't even supposed to be rented out.
21:14Deal with everything and take them away.
21:17Take everyone away?
21:18Then where would you send them?
21:20That's the problem. Their country doesn't...
21:22Now Myanmar says they can take them back.
21:24Really?
21:26So they can send their people back now.
21:28But the problem is,
21:30their government right now is the military.
21:33The military, the generals.
21:34It doesn't matter now whether it's the military or generals.
21:36Now they can accept
21:38their citizens back.
21:40They're still Myanmar citizens right now.
21:43Yeah.
21:47They're not passport holders, right...
21:50Yeah. So they can go back?
21:52Then if they join the military, that's their problem?
21:55Yeah. That's not the main issue.
21:58Malaysia does not...
21:59has never recognized UNHCR in this country,
22:03and we do not
22:05recognize refugees for admission.
22:07And who brought them in?
22:09Our previous leaders did.
22:12Yeah.
22:12So you understand. I don't need to say who.
22:15I understand, I understand, I understand.
22:17I don't have much more to say. That's all.
22:19Yeah, but that was useful input.
22:21Thank you, bro.
22:22Thank you. Thank you.
22:27No, because the authorities don't do anything either.
22:32Even when they do something,
22:33it just happens again.
22:36They'll arrest them.
22:37Let's say they take action.
22:38Then it's posted on TikTok, and we're happy.
22:40It's posted on TikTok, and we're happy. Okay, good.
22:41People respond, "Good."
22:42But eventually they'll come back,
22:45come back, come back.
22:46So there's someone
22:47profiting from all of this.
22:48Right.
22:49Huh? Right?
22:49Right, right.
22:50That's why it keeps growing back.
22:54Alright. So now,
22:55I understand now, bro.
22:57Why Malaysians are so angry
22:59with foreigners.
23:01Okay. Why?
23:03One!
23:03Huh?
23:04Crime has increased.
23:05Crime has increased, okay.
23:08Who gave you that information earlier?
23:10Yeah, both of them.
23:11Huh?
23:12Those 2 guys from earlier.
23:13Yeah, those 2.
23:14They've been here for 30 years and 15 years.
23:15They wouldn't lie, right?
23:16Right, right, right, right.
23:17So he said that after COVID,
23:19a lot of strange things started happening.
23:21Stabbings and things like that. It's dangerous.
23:24Because these people, they...
23:27have nothing to...
23:28They're not afraid of losing anything.
23:29They're not afraid of losing anything. Yeah, that's right.
23:34When you have nothing to lose,
23:36you just lash out at anything.
23:38You just lash out at anything.
23:39Yeah, you just don't care.
23:41If this isn't controlled,
23:42if it isn't controlled and spreads to other areas,
23:44it'll get even worse.
23:45Even worse. Right, right, right.
23:48Earlier, I learned 2 or 3 things
23:50that were genuinely shocking.
23:53Hmm.
23:54Number 1.
23:55A new piece of information.
23:58That information earlier showed that
24:01when Malaysians look at this place,
24:03they think it's full of Rohingya.
24:05But actually,
24:06it's not just Rohingya, there are Myanmar people too.
24:10Those, those, those...
24:11Myanmar people who don't want to join their military.
24:13So they're Myanmar refugees. Okay, that's 1.
24:16They're not all Rohingya.
24:17Number 2.
24:19They're violent.
24:20They're violent, that's what the guy said earlier.
24:21Violent. That's what the guy told us earlier.
24:22They can stab people and things like that.
24:25Beat people, chase people.
24:26They're not afraid of losing anything.
24:28Number 3, what I found out is,
24:31this isn't just about the government
24:34now or the previous one.
24:36It's been nearly 15, 20 years.
24:38Nearly 15, 20 years!
24:40So it's been going on from previous governments until today.
24:46Relax, calm down.
24:47Then there was 1 more thing I noticed,
24:50when in 1 place,
24:52there are too many people from 1 ethnic group,
24:54they'll inevitably become dominant.
24:57You get it? They become dominant.
24:59Then they become bold, you know?
25:01Extremely bold.
25:02Excessively bold, way too bold.
25:04As if Malaysia has no laws.
25:07Yeah.
25:08Turns out it's not just what we see. It's not that simple.
25:10Turns out there's a tycoon...
25:13Yeah, that's another thing, another thing.
25:16Behind the scenes,
25:19there are tycoons,
25:20business owners who are supporting
25:23the illegal situation that's going on.
25:25I'm not angry at the individuals, you know?
25:28I don't feel hatred when I look at an individual,
25:31but I hate seeing
25:33the situation that's happening.
25:35Who allowed this situation?
25:37Who allowed it?
25:37When I see a little kid, 3 years old,
25:40Yeah!
25:40I can't hate them.
25:42I don't know. I'm just made this way...
25:44I can't be angry at a child.
25:46I can't. I just can't.
25:47I really can't do it.
25:48Even though I know the impact,
25:50soon they'll have more children.
25:52They'll multiply.
25:52Then when they grow up, they'll take over.
25:55But I don't know.
25:56I just can't hate children.
25:58I can't...
25:59I can't feel angry at a little kid.
26:01Yeah.
26:02You understand?
26:03Because they didn't choose to be born into this world.
26:05Right.
26:05So now, we're going to...
26:07Taman Maluri, right?
26:10Oh, Taman Sri Murni.
26:11Good thing you remembered.
26:12Okay. Taman Sri Murni.
26:15Let's check out the park Awie always talks about.
26:28Hahahaha!
26:29Count to 3.
26:33Assalamualaikum.
26:35I'll only count to 5.
26:375, right?
26:38One!
26:40Two!
26:42Three!
26:43Why?
26:46We have no choice.
26:48No choice.
26:50That's crazy, bro!
26:51That's crazy, bro!
26:53Nice, okay.
26:55I need some help.
26:57Assalamualaikum.
26:58I need some help.
26:59I've heard all over TikTok,
27:01people saying that Sri Murni
27:02is the place with the most Rohingya.
27:04I want to know which park it is.
27:06This area, there's 1 up there.
27:08Where?
27:09You need to go up here and enter here.
27:12Pick him up, pick him up.
27:14Pick him up, pick him up.
27:22Don't record, don't record.
27:24Okay, okay.
27:25Okay.
27:26On the motorcycle. On the motorcycle.
27:27Further in, further in. Further in.
27:29Okay, done.
27:31We didn't ask permission, you know?
27:33This is how I do things. It's normal for me.
27:35I don't come over asking for help,
27:37"Do you know where the Rohingya area is?"
27:39No.
27:40The moment you say you know, we take you along.
27:42Yeah, take him along straight away.
27:42Okay, it's up ahead, bro.
27:43Yeah, which side? Tell me.
27:45Turn right, yeah?
27:46There, there, there.
27:49Oh, is this it? Is this it?
27:50Yeah, this park? There's a park over there.
27:53Where? To the right?
27:55Where? I don't see any of them.
27:56There aren't any.
27:58Oh, yeah.
27:58Those are their kids.
27:59Yeah, bro.
28:01Those are their people, bro.
28:02Oh!
28:03I see, I see, I see, I see.
28:05Don't get caught. Don't get caught.
28:07Wait. They'll all run away in a minute.
28:10Wait, wait, wait.
28:11We need to do this first.
28:12We need to get a drone angle first.
28:15Let's look at the situation,
28:16how do you know
28:17they're allowed to do all that?
28:19Oh, really?
28:20We couldn't even play tag before.
28:22Huh? Go to work?
28:23Play tag.
28:24You can't play tag?
28:26You can't, you can't do that, right?
28:27You can't play in the park up there.
28:30You can only play in the lower area.
28:31Because they've been urinating in the park.
28:33Oh, I understand. They make it dirty,
28:35urinating and everything.
28:37Oh, there's a prayer hall here and everything looks fine.
28:39This place was raided the other day.
28:41Oh, it was already raided?
28:47Whoa, they recognize me.
28:51Hi!
28:52Hello, bro. I'm subscribed to you.
28:53Oh, thank you, thank you, thank you.
28:55How are you?
28:55I just watched it last night too.
28:57Oh, you did the bicycle boat out at sea.
29:00Did you like it?
29:01I did! I also watched you the other day,
29:02when you built that birdhouse up in the tree,
29:05and then you stayed there.
29:06Oh!
29:07I only watched it last night.
29:09Yeah! Yeah! Thank you. Thank you.
29:12Thanks for watching the videos.
29:13I looked and noticed,
29:14"Hey, that looks like Isa Isarb's car."
29:15Hahahaha!
29:16I looked. "Oh, it's Isa Isarb."
29:17Hahahaha!
29:18Thank you, thank you.
29:19Do you guys live here? You live here?
29:21Bro, can we take a picture?
29:22Sure, sure, sure.
29:29Do you live here?
29:31I've always lived here.
29:32Oh, man.
29:32I've already blended in with them.
29:33Hahahaha!
29:34I've already, what?
29:35Assimilated with them.
29:37Hahahaha!
29:38I don't hate them or anything.
29:40I'm trying to stay neutral.
29:42We can't really hate them either.
29:44With this issue, we're stuck in the middle.
29:45We're genuinely stuck in the middle.
29:47The government
29:48has its own answers too.
29:49And we have our own answers.
29:52Yeah...
29:53There used to be so many, more than 100 people here.
29:55Whoa, that changed fast, didn't it?
29:57There were a lot, more than 100.
29:58Before what? Before Koroy came,
29:59before Awie came,
30:01there were so many people.
30:01They slaughtered cows. Just casually.
30:03They slaughtered cows in the park?
30:05Yes! Even before that, by the roadside,
30:07around the back here.
30:09They slaughtered cows in that park.
30:10Next time I'll slaughter an elephant here.
30:11Hahahaha!
30:12Yeah, let them see that for a change.
30:13Hahahaha!
30:17They slaughter cows, huh?
30:18What haven't they done?
30:19You saw Koroi's video, right?
30:20Yeah.
30:24I saw someone cooking
30:26in Koroi's video.
30:27That's what made me want to come here.
30:29Cooking downstairs.
30:30They do all sorts of things.
30:31They're happy here.
30:32Yeah.
30:33That part is okay.
30:34Now they're way too comfortable.
30:35There are even effeminate men.
30:36There are gay men too.
30:37Really?
30:38Yeah, there are 3 of them.
30:39There are already 3.
30:41A trio?
30:42Okay, yeah? Okay.
30:42Okay, alright. Assalamualaikum.
30:44I've never considered the Rohingya inferior.
30:47Because I don't want racism.
30:49That's one of my principles in life,
30:51that's my stance.
30:52It's just that some of their actions are disgraceful.
30:54Like spitting betel nut,
30:57like this.
30:58That behavior is disgraceful
30:59and it needs to be corrected.
31:01But an ethnicity...
31:02We can't consider an entire ethnic group inferior.
31:04Because it's the same thing,
31:06if we go to Europe
31:08or America, right?
31:10People can look at our race the same way too.
31:13They'll say, "Asians, Asians."
31:16When we interviewed the residents here,
31:19what I came to understand
31:20is that many of them actually feel
31:23the same way.
31:24They're stuck in the middle too.
31:27Yeah, stuck in the middle.
31:28They have nowhere to speak up. Their situation
31:30has no end to it.
31:31There's no end.
31:32What are they supposed to do, right?
31:34And regarding all the mess they make,
31:36it's because of poor manners and a lack of education.
31:39They weren't taught. When you're not taught,
31:41Hmm, that's the thing.
31:42Of course people will end up hating you.
31:43That's the thing.
31:43Spitting betel nut,
31:45relieving themselves in boxes.
31:47Oh, it really makes me angry when I see it.
31:49Ugh... it's really frustrating.
31:50But... that's the thing. It's not just a lack of education.
31:52Urinating in the park too.
31:54Their parents at home don't teach them either.
31:56I hope all the Rohingya
31:58who are watching this video
32:00will prove
32:03that
32:05you're all trying your very best
32:08to bring positive change to your families.
32:12Prove that you have good manners too.
32:15It's emotionally troubling
32:16while we're making this documentary.
32:19You feel torn.
32:22I'm not... I'm not torn.
32:23My stance is firm.
32:25How so?
32:25I... I think they've had enough.
32:28They've had enough, what do you mean?
32:29Enough is enough. Err...
32:33We, as Malaysian citizens,
32:36have already given them a place
32:38where they can seek refuge.
32:39So it's time to take 1 action.
32:42Take 1 step toward
32:43figuring out how we can handle this better.
32:46Yeah, that's right. I agree.
32:48I'm not saying
32:49I'm torn about taking action.
32:51I'm torn
32:53when thinking about being stuck in the middle.
32:56Oh, right.
32:56You're stuck in the middle when...
33:00When we ourselves don't know.
33:01what decision can be made.
33:04Do you understand?
33:05The situation with our documentary right now is...
33:07The situation with our research right now is,
33:09no one has come up with a solution yet
33:11that seems absolutely clear.
33:13Do you understand?
33:13That's what I mean, opinions are divided.
33:16It's 50-50.
33:17I mean, if we say send them back,
33:19where would they go back to?
33:20Go back where?
33:21Even Myanmar won't accept them.
33:23If we want to build schools in Malaysia,
33:25Man, all the problems
33:27that are currently happening around
33:29Selayang Market will all come up again.
33:32They'll come up again. Even worse,
33:33the problem will spread even further,
33:34right.
33:35Do you understand?
33:36So what do we do in the meantime?
33:38Not even 1 country has an answer.
33:41What can be done?
33:42I mean,
33:44the Prime Minister needs to meet
33:45Myanmar's Prime Minister to discuss it.
33:48Myanmar's Prime Minister...
33:52isn't recognized by the world.
33:55Oh, really?
33:56Yeah.
33:56Myanmar's Prime Minister?
33:58Yes. Because he's from the military.
34:00He seized control of the government.
34:02Oh.
34:03He didn't come to power through democracy.
34:05He seized power.
34:06Oh, so Myanmar
34:07really is a country in chaos.
34:09It's definitely in chaos.
34:15Assalamualaikum.
34:16Assalamualaikum.
34:17I just arrived 10 minutes ago.
34:22Hahaha!
34:23Look at his shirt,
34:24"Roro Not Malaysia."
34:30Hahahaha!
34:31Today, we get to meet Awie.
34:36Now I can't call him
34:38an influencer anymore.
34:38What?
34:39He's an anti-illegal immigrant activist.
34:42Against illegal immigrants and Rohingya refugees.
34:44Especially Rohingya refugees.
34:45Yes.
34:45I saw 1 video this morning.
34:47You went to Bukit Bintang.
34:48Which video?
34:49There was this 1 older lady.
34:51She wasn't an older lady. She was young.
34:52Huh?
34:53That woman, right?
34:54Yeah.
34:55She wasn't an older lady.
34:56Oh, she's young?
34:57Young.
34:57She's young, right, that girl?
34:59Yeah, she's still young.
35:00Since this morning,
35:01we've been to a lot of places with illegal immigrants.
35:03We went to places with illegal immigrants, Rohingya areas,
35:06because we're making this documentary.
35:08Did you go to Selayang?
35:09Yes!
35:09The market? The Wholesale Market?
35:10You're famous there.
35:11The Wholesale Market?
35:12The Wholesale Market!
35:13I went undercover.
35:14I went inside.
35:15I even look somewhat Rohingya.
35:17Then I disguised myself.
35:18Then I went in.
35:19I ate their food.
35:20But you brought a camera?
35:23The camera was hidden.
35:23Where was the camera?
35:24Oh!
35:25It's inside the camera.
35:26No wonder they didn't run away.
35:27I put it here.
35:29I put it here.
35:30Then another person put one on the bag.
35:33We just went in undercover.
35:35Hey, do you know this guy?
35:36What does he usually do around here?
35:38Yeah, things like that.
35:40I managed to dig up a few things.
35:41If you want to know,
35:43most of those coming in now
35:45are Rohingya from Cox's Bazar.
35:47Not from Myanmar.
35:48From Cox's Bazar.
35:49Yes, they're stressed living there,
35:51restricted. So they go to Malaysia.
35:56Because it's difficult for them to leave Myanmar.
35:58They can, but the risk is lower.
36:00At Cox's Bazar,
36:01they're free to do whatever they want.
36:02That's why so many come to Malaysia.
36:03Yeah, I understand.
36:04They're being relocated to 1 island
36:07in Bangladesh, right?
36:08Yeah, that's right.
36:08They want to place all the Rohingya
36:10in Bangladesh
36:11on this 1 island.
36:12Correct.
36:13Personally, Awie,
36:14why did you make this major decision
36:16to become an anti-illegal immigrant activist,
36:19anti-Rohingya?
36:20First of all, experience.
36:22My experience
36:25being around the Rohingya.
36:27Then secondly, netizens, Malaysians.
36:30Yeah, they complained.
36:32They voiced their concerns.
36:33It's like I'm some kind of authority.
36:35They'd say, "Please, Awie. Come here."
36:38"Come here."
36:39So I'm the sympathetic type.
36:40I can't just ignore it.
36:42So I went down there myself,
36:43and that's how I ended up in many unexpected places.
36:47Yeah.
36:48So you mainly started doing this
36:49because people called on you?
36:51Yes, people called on me.
36:52But I started after that case went viral,
36:56that... those viral buildings.
36:58That viral apartment building. Since then.
37:00Not Selayang, Hulu Langat.
37:02Hulu Langat?
37:03The one Pak Azad went to.
37:04Oh, right. That's where this started.
37:07Yes, that's right. That's where it blew up.
37:10I understand!
37:12Oh, right. Yes, yes, yes.
37:13I remember there was 1 brick building.
37:16It looked like an extension of the original building.
37:19Yeah, I remember. Pak Azad uploaded it.
37:21It's already been demolished now.
37:22We made content before it was demolished,
37:24and while it was being demolished.
37:26Even while it was being demolished,
37:28some of them were casually walking around.
37:30Hey, what are you doing?
37:31Hahaha!
37:31Yeah. Yes!
37:33All the houses next to it are theirs.
37:34Yeah, the houses around it are theirs.
37:35That whole row next to it is theirs.
37:36Oh, really?
37:38So only 1 family had their place demolished?
37:40Not 1 family.
37:41There were many families inside.
37:43Not just 1 family
37:44because how many floors did it have?
37:46How many floors?
37:47Yeah.
37:484... 3 floors.
37:49They were going to add a 4th, right?
37:50Yeah. Something like that.
37:54What was the scariest experience
37:55you went through while doing this?
37:57The scariest experience?
37:58The most intense one.
37:59The most intense one.
38:01The most intense was when we were confronting people,
38:03me and him.
38:04Going around confronting people.
38:05We had just started making this content,
38:06we hadn't started livestreaming yet.
38:07We hadn't even thought about livestreaming.
38:09While we were filming, just about to turn on the camera,
38:12a sepak takraw ball came from behind.
38:14We turned around, and nobody admitted it.
38:15But they were playing sepak takraw behind us.
38:18Yeah, we asked everyone and nobody admitted it.
38:19"No, it wasn't us, no, no, no."
38:21He's a witness.
38:22He's a witness.
38:23So we immediately started livestreaming.
38:24Boom! Everyone ran away.
38:26The whole place was empty.
38:30Was this after you uploaded 2, 3 videos?
38:32Yeah, after uploading 2, 3 videos.
38:34Oh, they threw the sepak takraw ball?
38:36I don't know if they threw it,
38:37or kicked it, but it definitely hit me here.
38:39Was it hard?
38:40Not that hard, but it hit me. It startled me.
38:43Man, they've got some damn nerve. Yeah!
38:46Hahahaha!
38:47That was the scariest one.
38:49That was the scariest.
38:50But even scarier than that
38:51were the threats. The threats.
38:53What kind of threats, for example?
38:55Threats on social media.
38:56Oh, social media? That's normal.
38:57Yeah, on social media. That's normal.
38:58Threats to behead me, to...
39:00Lots of things like that.
39:01Yes.
39:03After that incident,
39:04the sepak takraw incident,
39:05that night, there was a Rohingya teenager.
39:07"You're lucky you got out of Cheras.
39:09Otherwise, you'd have lost your head."
39:11Hey, there are a lot of cases involving them, you know?
39:13That's right.
39:14That's Selayang,
39:15but this one was in Cheras Baru.
39:17The field you guys went to.
39:19That field
39:19is packed on Saturday and Sunday afternoons, on weekends.
39:22The whole field is theirs.
39:23They play football, they play sepak takraw.
39:25They sell things there too.
39:26We went there during durian season.
39:28Durian. They were selling it.
39:29When we came, they grabbed the fruit.
39:31They only took the durians
39:32because durians are expensive, right?
39:33Yeah, they only took the durians back.
39:34They left the other fruits and vegetables by the side.
39:38Some of them were selling fish.
39:40Yeah, selling fish at the field.
39:42At the field?
39:42At the field!
39:43The playground?
39:43Yes!
39:44And if you look at the drain around the field,
39:46there's all kinds of trash.
39:47Badminton stuff, sepak takraw balls, basketballs,
39:50disposable diapers, all kinds of things.
39:52And most of the trash we find
39:54belongs to them.
39:56Drinks from their country.
39:58Energy drinks. Canned drinks, bottled drinks,
40:00most of them are their products.
40:01Their products. Made in Myanmar.
40:03Right there.
40:04If you want to know whether they're around,
40:06if you want to tell whether they're there,
40:07just look at the trash.
40:09So this really is
40:09made in Myanmar?
40:10Yeah, that's one thing. But the main thing is betel nut.
40:13Hahaha!
40:14What do we call it? Abrat.
40:15Abrat.
40:16We went to the housing area nearby.
40:18There was a Myanmar guy riding a motorcycle.
40:21"Hey, where?" We asked,
40:22"Do you have a license or anything?"
40:24"Yes, yes, yes."
40:25They got off. You could smell his breath. He was drunk.
40:27Drunk?
40:27Drunk!
40:28That's very wrong.
40:29And he's Muslim.
40:30It's not good to do that.
40:31"Brother, Assalamualaikum, brother."
40:33while he was drunk. We could smell it.
40:35You could smell it strongly, right?
40:36Yeah, we could smell it.
40:37We told him to stand up. He was leaning sideways.
40:38Hahahaha!
40:39Then they got back on the motorcycle and left.
40:41We made them switch. We told them to switch riders.
40:42Because the passenger wasn't drunk.
40:44The drunk one, how could he be driving?
40:45That's what worried us.
40:46It's in the livestream.
40:48We've already uploaded the livestream.
40:49It's just that the part where he was drunk didn't go viral.
40:51In your opinion, how can this problem be solved?
40:53What's your view based on your investigation?
40:56Solving this problem won't be easy.
40:58The authorities just need to be firm.
41:01As for those already here...
41:02For those who want to enter in the future,
41:04we block them 100 percent
41:05from entering.
41:06We secure the border 100 percent.
41:07What about those already here?
41:08Those already here, we...
41:10Send them back little by little, slowly,
41:11step by step.
41:12Send them where?
41:13Send them back to where they came from.
41:14We should just tell them to go back.
41:16The same way you came,
41:17that's how you go back.
41:18Why should we have to send them? Right?
41:19If they can come by boat,
41:20why can't they go back by boat?
41:22Doesn't that make sense?
41:23They can come here by boat.
41:24Why can't they go back by boat?
41:25Obviously, those boats are gone now, right?
41:27We could, Malaysians could...
41:29build 1 boat.
41:30Build 1 boat or raise funds
41:32for a special boat for them. Yeah!
41:35Then they can figure out where they want to go.
41:38That's how I see it.
41:39But, hahahaha!
41:41Good idea.
41:42Might as well build a big boat.
41:44"You get on, you leave."
41:45Yeah, go. Figure it out yourselves.
41:47At our expense.
41:49Even though we never invited them, right?
41:51We didn't invite them, but we're still being kind.
41:53We give them a boat.
41:55No need to think about it. Go wherever you want.
41:58No, we're not cruel.
41:58We're not just throwing them out, we're giving them a boat.
42:00Right? Yeah.
42:01But most people I've asked,
42:03Malaysians are all willing
42:04to contribute funds to give them a boat
42:06instead of flying them. That's expensive.
42:08It costs a lot.
42:09Hahahaha!
42:10Personally...
42:12This is a personal question.
42:14How do you feel...
42:16How do you feel when you see Rohingya people?
42:18Do you dislike that ethnicity,
42:21or do you dislike their behavior,
42:23or do you dislike...
42:24Do you dislike the fact that they came here?
42:26Okay, this is exclusive.
42:29Exclusive, yes.
42:31No one knows this yet.
42:32No one knows this yet.
42:33Exclusive!
42:33Actually,
42:35I used to be like other Malaysians...
42:37We were all the same before. We'd see the Rohingya and feel sorry for them.
42:40Begging for money, right?
42:42We felt sorry that they had nowhere to live.
42:44Carrying their children by the roadside,
42:45begging for money and all that.
42:47And then...
42:49When we'd hear songs like,
42:50"Good Night Rohingya,"
42:51we'd feel even sadder and everything.
42:53Yeah. Yeah.
42:54But after I had experiences with them,
42:57and Malaysian netizens also
42:59shared their experiences,
43:00that sympathy disappeared. Gone!
43:02Okay.
43:03Gone. It disappeared automatically.
43:04Yeah.
43:05And it didn't disappear because we dislike them.
43:08It's their behavior.
43:09The culture they bring to Malaysia.
43:10Yes, their behavior.
43:12I understand, I understand.
43:13They say they're Muslims.
43:14Muslims, but Islam doesn't teach people to be filthy, bro.
43:16How are you going to pray if you're dirty?
43:18You have to maintain cleanliness in Islam.
43:19Right?
43:19Right, right. That's right.
43:20Any country would emphasize cleanliness.
43:22You have to maintain cleanliness.
43:23But even that,
43:24even something that basic, they can't maintain.
43:26I understand, I understand.
43:27Everyone tells us it's their behavior
43:29that they don't like.
43:35This part here just went viral.
43:38They left their child here by the side, and someone recorded it.
43:41Then they just walked off like that.
43:42Bro. Hahaha!
43:44We don't...
43:45It wasn't spit, you know?
43:47Yeah!
43:48Spit would at least make sense.
43:49Bro!
43:50!
43:52What was that coming out?
43:54Like that athlete?
43:56Like that athlete.
43:57Hahahaha!
43:58There's no proof.
44:00Bro!
44:03The other day, we went into a Rohingya prayer hall.
44:06We just went in, but...
44:08The accusations on social media said you attacked the place, right?
44:12Yeah, that's one of those... what do people call it?
44:14People are targeting me.
44:16People are targeting me.
44:17Anything that makes me look bad gets used.
44:18But actually, Awie went in, took off his shoes and gave the Islamic greeting.
44:21Yeah.
44:22And at the time, they were apparently praying in congregation at 5.30 PM.
44:26It's okay, only Allah knows.
44:27But in the video, we went in and showed it.
44:30Because inside that prayer hall...
44:33What information?
44:34All the notice boards were already in their language.
44:37The donation box was labeled in their language.
44:38The box where we give donations was labeled in their language.
44:41Where is this?
44:42In Selayang.
44:43Selayang.
44:44Taman Wilayah.
44:45Taman Wilayah near what? Desa Bakti.
44:47Desa Bakti.
44:49If you know Flat Colombia.
44:50That's where their prayer hall is, Flat Colombia.
44:51Flat Colombia?
44:52Flat Colombia.
44:53If you go there, bro.
44:54Oh, Colombia, bro.
44:56Colombia, bro!
44:58It feels like Colombia, bro.
44:59Betel spit by the windows, bro. Still dripping.
45:02Hahahaha!
45:04Betel spit by the windows.
45:08This is crazy.
45:10It's gotten to the point where...
45:11The residents there themselves told us,
45:12there's spit all over every staircase.
45:14Spit, you know, betel stains everywhere.
45:17Even scrubbing won't remove it.
45:19Spitting is already considered normal there.
45:22Then that guy told us... Hey, can we say this?
45:25About them having sex?
45:26Hahahaha!
45:27Really?
45:28Having sex on the stairs?
45:30Having sex with a Malaysian girl, bro.
45:32A local Malaysian Malay girl wearing a hijab.
45:34Having sex on the stairs
45:35with a Rohingya boy.
45:37Were they both kids?
45:38Not exactly kids.
45:40Teenagers. Her brother told us.
45:42Her own brother told us.
45:44The girl's brother.
45:45La ilaha illallah!
45:46Whoa!
45:46That's crazy, bro! The girl doesn't know anything.
45:48She's a teenager who doesn't know anything.
45:49because she doesn't know anything about the Rohingya.
45:52So she probably thought he was just a normal friend.
45:53A neighbor and all that.
45:54That's why we need to spread awareness about this.
45:56What happened?
45:58We don't know what happened.
45:59If they already had sex, we don't know what happened after that.
46:01Yeah, the JMB here.
46:04The management of this apartment itself privately messaged us
46:06to share the problems they have there.
46:09When we kept asking questions,
46:10they had actually
46:11taken action against these Rohingya before.
46:13They filed reports and everything,
46:14but because there were so many Rohingya,
46:16he ended up backing down. That's the JMB, bro.
46:18The management there had to back down.
46:20They had to file a police report.
46:21Then the police called him in instead.
46:21They said he'd stolen a motorcycle,
46:23when it was actually his motorcycle that went missing.
46:25Yes, that Indian guy.
46:26We met him ourselves. Yeah.
46:27Oh my God.
46:28It's right here, this apartment complex.
46:31See how many negative effects there are
46:32once they've taken over an area?
46:35And this is only what we know.
46:36What about what we don't know?
46:37Because we've been to many states.
46:39Penang, Pahang,
46:40Perak, Kuantan.
46:43They're everywhere, bro.
46:46We're going to Johor Bahru next.
46:47Yeah, we're going to Johor Bahru at the end of this month.
46:49It's the same problem everywhere.
46:50There's a video from Aceh.
46:52They had just gotten off the boat.
46:54People gave them food.
46:55Then they put them back on the boat?
46:56No, they complained that there wasn't enough food.
46:58They said it wasn't enough. Not enough rice.
47:00The Acehnese guy recorded it.
47:02He went like this.
47:03The uncle was recording.
47:04"That's enough. Enough."
47:06Hahahaha!
47:07If you don't believe me, you can look it up.
47:08Yeah, yeah, yeah.
47:10That video went viral, bro.
47:11See their behavior?
47:12That's the attitude they bring there.
47:13People are already helping you,
47:14giving you food and everything, accepting you.
47:16And you can still say it isn't enough?
47:17Hahahaha!
47:20They just threw all their trash into the sea.
47:23Then the trash washed back up in Aceh.
47:25Hahahaha!
47:26Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
47:27I understand, I understand, I understand.
47:28Okay, thank you for sharing with us.
47:31Okay.
47:32Thank you. Thank you.
47:32You're welcome. Thank you too.
47:33That's 1 thing that's hard for me to get, this kind of experience.
47:37It's something new.
47:38Yeah.
47:39Thank you for agreeing to this.
47:41Thank you too for inviting us.
47:44What's your name?
47:45I'm Aril.
47:46Aril?
47:47Fatah.
47:47Fatah? Okay, great.
47:49So I'll get going, okay?
47:50Anything else?
47:50No. Nothing for now.
47:52Awesome, thank you.
47:54If you have a passport,
47:56and want to come to Bangladesh, let me know.
47:58Do you have a passport?
47:59Of course I do.
48:00Of course you do! How many times have you been to Phuket, Thailand?
48:02Not that many.
48:03Hahahaha!
48:05Really? Are you serious?
48:06Serious, serious, serious.
48:08Okay, but you'll need to cover your face a little.
48:11Because you must have gone viral already.
48:12But from Cox's Bazar, Dhaka,
48:14will you come straight back here?
48:15I'll continue on to...
48:17Sure, sure.
48:18Okay.
48:19I was thinking of taking some questions from you.
48:21So if you can come yourself, even better.
48:26Okay, thank you.
48:27All right. Okay. Assalamualaikum.
48:30Okay, so we've finished our interview
48:33with the anti...
48:35anti-Rohingya or anti-illegal immigrant activist.
48:38So next, tomorrow...
48:40I want to draw a conclusion first
48:42from everything we've learned.
48:44Then tomorrow I'll see
48:46what else we still need to cover,
48:47what else we need to find.
48:50Then I'll let you guys know tomorrow morning.
48:52All right, good night.
48:58All right, look ahead.
48:59Look ahead.
49:00Yes! We've arrived at KLIA!
49:06We've arrived at the airport. Okay.
49:08Man, I'm seriously nervous.
49:10I'm seriously nervous, extremely nervous.
49:11I'm scared to go to Cox's Bazar.
49:13Are you scared or not?
49:14I'm nervous too.
49:15But I did a little research.
49:18Okay, what?
49:19About the place.
49:20Yeah.
49:20I saw...
49:22Okay, it doesn't seem that dangerous.
49:23It looks okay to me.
49:25Some people can speak English.
49:27Where? In Cox's Bazar?
49:28Some people in Cox's Bazar can speak English.
49:29Oh, really? Okay.
49:31All right, all right.
49:32Man, you've eased my fear.
49:35Because what I'm afraid of...
49:36You know what?
49:38I'm afraid of getting beaten up.
49:39Not at Immigration.
49:40Awie can't wear a face covering.
49:43Right? The guy we're bringing,
49:45he can't wear a face covering.
49:48So I'm worried even about the Immigration people...
49:50Because Cox's Bazar is a Rohingya area,
49:53a Rohingya area.
49:54They have connections with the Rohingya.
49:55Then they could tell them,
49:56"Okay, this guy has entered this area."
49:58Then we're screwed, man.
49:59It's the same in Afghanistan, man.
50:01Oh, really?
50:01I think, Insha-Allah, nothing will happen.
50:03Insha-Allah, Insha-Allah.
50:04Because that place really is...
50:06I saw that Al Jazeera went there too.
50:09They're the media.
50:11They're the media, man.
50:13They had soldiers with them. They're the media.
50:16We're not the press, we're the pressure.
50:19Hahahaha!
50:19We're the pressure.
50:20We're the pressure, huh?
50:21Yeah.
50:22We put on a lot of pressure.
50:23Where are we going to park now?
50:25Just park somewhere.
50:27Outside, right? The parking lot?
50:28Is the parking on the right or left?
50:31Oh, there's this lady.
50:34Hi!
50:34Assalamualaikum!
50:35I'm a fan of yours.
50:37Oh, really? Thank you.
50:38All my children are fans of yours.
50:39Thank you, thank you.
50:40Is that thing on top expensive?
50:41RM1,800
50:42RM80 or RM1,800?
50:44RM1,800
50:45Man, you're rich.
50:47Did you already withdraw your EPF money?
50:52Oh.
50:53I'm disabled.
50:54Oh, a person with a disability. I understand.
50:56My children are fans of Isa.
50:59Thank you. Have a wonderful day.
51:01Have a good day.
51:03Where's the parking?
51:05Okay, okay, okay.
51:06She probably heard, "Where are you from?"
51:09Oh!
51:09Yeah, something like that.
51:11"Where's the parking?"
51:12She answered, "Melaka. Melaka."
51:13Hahahaha!
51:15That's a long way to park.
51:16Hahahaha!
51:17I'll call Awie first.
51:19Hello, Assalamualaikum.
51:22Boss, you're at KFC, right?
51:25Yeah, at KFC.
51:27No checked baggage or anything, right?
51:28No. No.
51:30Everything's under 7kg, right? Nothing heavy, right?
51:33No. No.
51:34Okay, good.
51:36Yeah, okay, great.
51:38We're at the parking lot. It's full.
51:41Yeah, okay, okay.
51:42Yeah, okay.
51:43Okay, we'll come over to KFC later, okay?
51:46I'm at KFC. Let me know if anything comes up.
51:48Okay, great.
51:50There are things he does that I like.
51:52And there are things, like I told him yesterday,
51:54that I don't like.
51:56The reason we're bringing him to Cox's Bazar
51:58is so he can see things more clearly.
52:03Do you understand? So he can see things more clearly, right?
52:05Okay, this overflow is because of this. Because of this.
52:07So at least, the things that...
52:10the things that go too far,
52:12like getting angry, for example.
52:14Right, he went...
52:16He confronted someone in front of a small child,
52:19in front of a 2-year-old.
52:20He confronted the father.
52:22Then he got angry at the 2-year-old too.
52:23And that, I... I disagree with that.
52:26It's like spreading hatred.
52:28Spreading hatred, do you understand?
52:29How do you say it?
52:30What do you call it in Malay?
52:32Influencing people to...
52:34behave unethically.
52:36Oh!
52:37Because even if...
52:39Even if someone robs our house,
52:41we're not allowed to...
52:43Because even if...
52:44someone does something very wrong,
52:46we, as ordinary citizens,
52:48aren't allowed to go around
52:50doing aggressive things,
52:52cursing, threatening and all that. Why?
52:54Because it would undermine the country's stability.
52:57The stability of a government.
53:00The stability of a place.
53:02If you notice, we brought bags,
53:04bags that are completely strapped up,
53:05completely strapped up.
53:06Completely strapped up. Look at this.
53:08This is actually supposed to be a hiking bag, you know.
53:10Yes.
53:11Why are we bringing bags like this?
53:13Because we're afraid of getting robbed.
53:15Hahaha!
53:18Yeah, that's why, we're afraid of getting robbed.
53:21So to prevent anything from being stolen,
53:23that's why we have...
53:24all kinds of straps on them.
53:27If you bring a normal bag,
53:28someone can easily open it from behind because of all the pockets.
53:31Awie, where is he waiting?
53:36Tell him to come here.
53:37Come to the International gate.
53:41The international gate.
53:42The international gate.
53:43Near the international departures area.
53:47Everything here is international anyway.
54:04Waalaikumussalam.
54:05Boss!
54:08Can I get in trouble looking like this? Surely not?
54:09Hahahaha!
54:11All right. All right.
54:12Okay, ready?
54:13Okay, ready.
54:14Hahahaha!
54:15Good manners...
54:21How many questions do you want to ask?
54:22It doesn't matter, it's up to you.
54:24We'll ask questions. If you have any,
54:26you can ask
54:27questions you've probably wanted to ask for a long time.
54:29Genuine ones.
54:30"What's your favorite color?"
54:31Hahahaha!
54:33That's completely unrelated.
54:34What I mainly want to know is why,
54:36what caused the influx from Cox's Bazar.
54:39That's all I want to know. That's my research.
54:41I'm going there because I want to know why...
54:43the influx from Cox's Bazar
54:44started after 3 years ago.
54:46The influx started after COVID.
54:47I want to know what's happening there.
54:49What's going on?
54:50Do they have hospitals?
54:51How do they live?
54:52What are the roads like?
54:53Write that down, write it down, write it down.
54:55That's definitely what I...
54:57what they're actually doing there.
54:59Yeah, that.
54:59Yeah, exactly. Maybe that's why there's an influx.
55:02We don't know.
55:02Maybe it's because they don't have hospitals,
55:04or don't have certain things. Maybe that's the reason.
55:09Okay.
55:12Are you using a normal bag?
55:14A normal bag. Look at the logo.
55:15Whoa, Batman! Hahahaha!
55:18I mean, is this okay?
55:20Yes. Yes.
55:20Yeah, that's fine. Okay, okay.
55:24It's rough over there.
55:25It's gang territory.
55:27That's why I had to bring a hiking bag
55:29with 10 straps.
55:31Oh, in front.
55:33Oh! There's a way to do it?
55:34Hahahaha!
55:37There's only 1 part I'm worried about.
55:38They might have people at Immigration.
55:41At Immigration, you can't wear any of this stuff.
55:42You have to take everything off,
55:43like in Afghanistan and everywhere else.
55:45They might have people at Immigration too.
55:50You'll be surprised by how we do things.
55:53We eat all kinds of food.
55:55As long as it's halal.
55:56As long as it's halal.
55:56We eat everything.
55:58And you've never...?
55:59Hahahaha!
56:00It has happened before.
56:02In Dubai... no, when did we go to Dubai?
56:04The time we had diarrhea.
56:05No, from Indonesia,
56:06we went straight to Dubai, right?
56:07The diarrhea happened in Dubai.
56:10Yeah.
56:12It started in Indonesia.
56:15The diarrhea hit in Dubai.
56:16Hahahaha!
56:29Hi, Assalamualaikum.
56:33Hi.
56:3420?
56:35Where are you going?
56:36Huh? I'm going to Cox's Bazar.
56:38The Rohingya area, we're making a documentary.
56:40My gate closes in 15 minutes.
56:43Okay, goodbye.
56:44Okay, goodbye.
56:49Hahahaha!
56:53You blend in. That's how you
56:55blend in.
56:57Hahahaha!
57:02Hahahaha!
57:14What airline are we taking?
57:16Biman Bangladesh Airlines.
57:17We're flying Biman.
57:18Yeah, Biman Bangladesh Airlines.
57:19Wait, isn't it Biman?
57:21Biman Bangladesh Airlines.
57:23Oh, there's a particular way to pronounce it.
57:25There's nobody at the counter, bro.
57:26No way. No way.
57:28Seriously, the gate must have changed.
57:29Search for it, enter the flight number.
57:31There's no way there's nobody here with 20 minutes left.
57:33There's nobody here, no way.
57:35Give me the flight number.
57:36The flight number is...
57:37C32, right?
57:38C32, C32.
57:40BG383
57:42BG383.
57:48383
57:50Did they change the gate or something?
57:52It doesn't show the gate.
57:53It still doesn't show the gate.
57:54Man, no way.
57:56There's nobody here.
57:56No way. Yeah.
57:58The gate must have changed.
58:02Maybe they didn't come.
58:04He said, "... you guys."
58:09Oh, they called? I'm heading to the gate.
58:10Can I know what the gate number is?
58:12Because there's nobody at C35.
58:14You've all checked in already,
58:17and gone inside, right?
58:19Yes.
58:19I don't need to check in
58:21because I don't have any checked baggage.
58:22I just went straight inside.
58:24The gate number? Hold on, sir. Gate... C4.
58:27C4?
58:29Yes, that's right.
58:30What?
58:31What the heck? C4! Run, run, run, run!
58:33C4, let's go!
58:56Yeah. Here.
58:57Here? Is the gate already closed?
59:00What time does it open?
59:026:30.
59:046:30.
59:05Yeah.
59:06Are you going to Dhaka?
59:07Yes, Dhaka.
59:12Someone from Biman called earlier.
59:13He said you hadn't checked in your bags yet.
59:15Right? He said there were 20 minutes left.
59:21No, it doesn't even say C4 here.
59:23Indonesian?
59:25Malaysian.
59:25Malaysian?
59:27Do I look Indonesian?
59:29Hahaha!
59:30Where are you from?
59:32Name?
59:33Jaidul.
59:33Hey, you're right.
59:34Check it properly.
59:35Yeah, properly.
59:36BG383.
59:38It hasn't started boarding yet, right?
59:39It hasn't started boarding. Everyone has gone.
59:41It only opens at 6:30.
59:45Hey, I don't think it's this one.
59:46This is the delayed one.
59:47We need to ask this guy, bro.
59:55Our flight isn't delayed.
59:56Sir, can I ask something?
59:58Do we wait here for this flight?
59:59Yes, wait here for now.
1:00:01This one, right? BG383?
1:00:02Correct.
1:00:03Okay, good.
1:00:08All right, so right now,
1:00:10we haven't gone in yet.
1:00:11Because if you look,
1:00:13we still have a long way to walk before we board.
1:00:15See?
1:00:16It's still a long way.
1:00:17So we're going to be the very last ones.
1:00:19Meanwhile, I'll take in the atmosphere for a moment,
1:00:21and see how they...
1:00:33Wow, so green.
1:00:37Okay.
1:00:39The closer we get to arriving,
1:00:42the more nervous I'm getting.
1:00:45We're number 6.
1:00:46J30
1:00:48You're J, right?
1:00:49I'm J.
1:00:50Oh yeah, I want seat J3. Please, please!
1:00:54Let's play for it. Whoever wins gets it.
1:00:56I'm done for...
1:00:57I'm done for...
1:01:01When you get there, you're going to get attacked.
1:01:03Hahahaha!
1:01:05This is seriously dangerous, you know.
1:01:06Man, it's dangerous.
1:01:08Okay, now it's your turn.
1:01:11Later, when we arrive in Bangladesh,
1:01:13I'll see you guys again. All right?
1:01:47So right now, we're trying to...
1:01:49On this flight,
1:01:50everyone on this flight...
1:01:52Most of them have lived in Malaysia for a long time.
1:01:54So they obviously know Malay.
1:01:56So I'm looking for...
1:01:58someone who knows Malay
1:01:59and Bengali to be our interpreter.
1:02:01When we arrive at Cox's Bazar,
1:02:03we'll be able to interview more people.
1:02:06And we'll be able to dig deeper into the story.
1:02:09Because I don't want, later on...
1:02:10When I get there, I'll speak English,
1:02:12but the people there won't understand.
1:02:14We're heading to...
1:02:15a third-world country, right?
1:02:27Whoa!
1:02:28We've landed.
1:02:30We've landed.
1:02:31Look outside, guys!
1:02:34We've arrived in Dhaka.
1:02:36But there are no direct flights from Malaysia...
1:02:39straight to Cox's Bazar.
1:02:41So we'll stop in Dhaka first.
1:02:42Then from Dhaka,
1:02:44we'll fly to Cox's Bazar tomorrow morning.
1:02:46So right now, I'm going to...
1:02:50find somewhere to sleep.
1:02:52We'll wake up tomorrow morning and continue to Cox's Bazar.
1:02:55Because there really isn't
1:02:56a single direct flight, okay?
1:02:58So let's find somewhere to sleep.
1:03:02Hey, it looks like there's a riot.
1:03:04Whoa! Whoa! Whoa!
1:03:05Hahahaha!
1:03:08It looks like there's a riot, look.
1:03:10Whoa!
1:03:12This is so different from
1:03:14all our previous flights, huh?
1:03:18Oh, yes. Thank you.
1:03:20Thank you.
1:03:21Earlier, I tried to find someone
1:03:23to guide us around Cox's Bazar,
1:03:26but I couldn't find anyone.
1:03:28No one. I already made an offer to the guy up front.
1:03:32Oh, he did make an offer.
1:03:34I'm just not confident about this guy.
1:03:36Yeah, he's like...
1:03:37you don't want to go with him?
1:03:40Aiyo.
1:03:41We... uh...
1:03:43Maybe we'll wait
1:03:45until we get to Cox's Bazar, right?
1:03:46Once we're in Cox's Bazar, we'll find...
1:03:48someone who can speak...
1:03:49Malay or English.
1:03:50Then we'll offer them
1:03:52a service fee or something.
1:03:53I think that would be better.
1:04:12Do you drive a taxi?
1:04:14Taxi, yes.
1:04:21So we've found the hotel.
1:04:24We didn't leave our passports or anything behind, right?
1:04:26No.
1:04:28Whoa, the room is pretty big.
1:04:30Yeah!
1:04:33The problem is, these are all single beds.
1:04:35What do we do?
1:04:39Are you sleeping with me?
1:04:40Hahahaha!
1:04:42Are there no extra beds?
1:04:431 more bed?
1:04:45No bed?
1:04:47Oh, there are 5 of us, huh?
1:04:49Ah, just use them. 2 people to a bed.
1:04:51Just push them together.
1:04:52Yeah, push them together.
1:04:53But are they locked in place?
1:04:551 bed can be adjusted.
1:04:58It can be adjusted? Okay, how?
1:05:01Yeah, push them together.
1:05:08When I was a kid,
1:05:09we'd push beds together and have fights, you know.
1:05:11Whoa!
1:05:13So, okay. Let's fight. How?
1:05:18Yeah, come on! Fight!
1:05:21Yeah!
1:05:22Yeah!
1:05:25Hey, it could burst.
1:05:27This pillow could burst, right?
1:05:28Huh? No way.
1:05:30Whoever falls off the bed loses.
1:05:33Fall off the bed and you lose. Yeah.
1:05:35Okay. Thank you.
1:05:38Okay, okay. Thank you.
1:05:40Hahaha!
1:05:41Okay.
1:05:43Fall off the bed and you lose, right?
1:05:44Fall off the bed and you lose, right?
1:05:45Fall off the bed and you lose?
1:05:46Yeah.
1:05:47In that case, I'll just do this.
1:05:48I'll push you.
1:05:49Yeah, I'll push you.
1:05:51You can push?
1:05:52That's the whole point of the fight.
1:05:54The moment you push me,
1:05:55boom! I'll go through the wall.
1:05:58Hahahaha!
1:06:07Yeah! You lose!
1:06:10You lose!
1:06:12Why did you hit him?
1:06:14He's not even in the game,
1:06:16he has nothing to do with this.
1:06:21Ouch.
1:06:47Ah.
1:06:49A nerve-racking morning.
1:06:51I don't know what's going to happen today.
1:06:53Uh, I'm worried about that place.
1:06:56I'll keep you updated from time to time.
1:06:58What are we going to do?
1:06:59That's Zul. He's waiting.
1:07:01Zul, he's waiting...
1:07:02He's looking for a taxi.
1:07:05Let's take a taxi to the airport first.
1:07:15Is that the car?
1:07:16This one.
1:07:17Wow, thank you.
1:07:20Thank you, sir.
1:07:21Thank you.
1:07:23Have a nice day.
1:07:25Hahahaha!
1:07:58Thank you.
1:08:00No passport anymore.
1:08:02Yeah.
1:08:03Just the ticket.
1:08:04Domestic? Huh?
1:08:09Oh, okay.
1:08:11Okay. Okay, let's go.
1:08:11What do we say?
1:08:12He said...
1:08:14"No more passport, ticket, ticket."
1:08:36We're doomed.
1:08:37Looks like it.
1:08:38Looks like our journey today is going to be dangerous.
1:08:41A propeller plane.
1:08:42What year in the 2000s is this plane from?
1:08:47Huh? Man, we're doomed.
1:09:01I don't think your bag will fit.
1:09:05Seriously, are you sure?
1:09:07If you're sure, okay.
1:09:09The captain is just casually walking in and out.
1:09:12Scary.
1:09:48Hah!
1:09:50Alhamdulillah.
1:09:51Where? Do we get off at the front or the back?
1:09:54Thank you, Captain.
1:09:55You're welcome.
1:09:55This is interesting, guys.
1:09:58Why did this suddenly turn into a photo spot?
1:10:01Hahahaha!
1:10:03Everyone's taking pictures.
1:10:04Hahahaha!
1:10:05Awie!
1:10:06We've arrived in Cox's Bazar, Awie.
1:10:08Cover your face, Awie.
1:10:10You'll have to be cut out later, Awie.
1:10:12Hahahaha!
1:10:13The guy next to me said,
1:10:15"Do you know Abang Koroy?"
1:10:16Who?
1:10:17Yeah. He doesn't know I'm Abang Koroy.
1:10:19Who?
1:10:20There was someone. The guy beside me earlier.
1:10:22What did you ask him?
1:10:23I opened TikTok.
1:10:25"Who's that? Oh, that's Abang Koroy," he said.
1:10:28I said, "Is he famous?"
1:10:29Yeah, he's famous. I've watched his videos.
1:10:31Whoa! We're doomed!
1:10:33On the flight just now?
1:10:34Yeah!
1:10:35Oh God!
1:10:38He doesn't know
1:10:39who he's talking to.
1:10:41If he knew,
1:10:41he would've pulled out a pocket knife by now.
1:10:44Hahahaha!
1:10:45Guys, we've arrived in Cox's Bazar.
1:10:52What are you doing here?
1:10:53Huh?
1:10:53What are you doing?
1:10:55Picking up my things.
1:10:55Wait here, wait. What for?
1:10:57Carrying things.
1:10:58Hey, you can speak Malay?
1:11:01I just came back.
1:11:03Huh?
1:11:03I just arrived.
1:11:04Oh, you were next to us earlier.
1:11:06Oh, you just arrived here?
1:11:07Oh, do you live here?
1:11:10No, I'm going somewhere else.
1:11:12Where are you going?
1:11:13I'm going to Teknaf.
1:11:16Teknaf? Not Cox's Bazar.
1:11:18This is Cox's Bazar.
1:11:20Yeah, okay, okay.
1:11:21Okay. Enjoy your day.
1:11:23Okay.
1:11:26Hello.
1:11:28Tuktuk?
1:11:29Tuktuk?
1:11:31Bro, why is everyone swarming us, bro?
1:11:33What's the name of your hotel, sir?
1:11:35Uh, wait. Let me check first.
1:11:38Location?
1:11:39One moment.
1:11:39Guys, why are they swarming us?
1:11:42I'm a tuktuk driver.
1:11:43Oh, you're a tuktuk driver?
1:11:45Do you know anyone who can speak Malay?
1:11:49Malay?
1:11:51Huh? Malay?
1:11:53Can you speak Malay?
1:11:56You can't speak it?
1:11:57Just find any available hotel. No problem.
1:11:59I want to go to the refugee camp.
1:12:02The Rohingya refugee camp, okay.
1:12:03Yes! Yes! Yes!
1:12:04Okay, record a video.
1:12:06Okay.
1:12:07But I need someone
1:12:08who can speak Malay.
1:12:10Go to Hangaram.
1:12:11You came from the airport. 4000.
1:12:15Let's go now. Come on.
1:12:16I want to go to the tourist police.
1:12:19Tourist police.
1:12:20Yes. Yes.
1:12:20Where are the tourist police?
1:12:21Tourist police?
1:12:23Tourist police.
1:12:24[Unclear]
1:12:28Refugee camp.
1:12:30Kutupalong refugee camp.
1:12:35I understand, Kutupalong refugee camp.
1:12:37Kutupalong?
1:12:38Yes. Kutupalong.
1:12:38Is there a police station there?
1:12:40Tourist police station?
1:12:41The tourist police station is that way, only 3 km.
1:12:46There's only 1 tourist police station?
1:12:47This is the tourist police station.
1:12:49Headquarters.
1:12:50Headquarters?
1:12:51Yes, I understand.
1:12:52Tourist police headquarters?
1:12:54Yes, yes, yes, yes.
1:12:55Okay, let's go.
1:12:57No, I asked him to take us
1:12:59to the tourist police station.
1:13:02To the tourist police station.
1:13:04Yeah. Tourist police station.
1:13:08Because yesterday I got some advice
1:13:10from that tourist information center.
1:13:13He said,
1:13:14don't make yourself stand out,
1:13:16because it could get dangerous.
1:13:18Like if you show
1:13:19that you have a big camera.
1:13:21Okay, here's my idea.
1:13:23Yeah?
1:13:24We'll go straight to the refugee camp.
1:13:27We don't need to take out the big camera.
1:13:29We'll film first before that.
1:13:31Because I'm worried that once we take out the big camera,
1:13:33they'll start...
1:13:35Yeah, making a fuss.
1:13:36So we'll use the hidden camera first.
1:13:38Go in and walk around like tourists.
1:13:41Bam, have a look,
1:13:42then we'll go and get assistance.
1:13:45Go to the police station.
1:13:46Go in with assistance and conduct interviews.
1:13:48Okay.
1:13:48Yeah, like that.
1:13:49Good idea?
1:13:49Good idea.
1:13:50Okay.
1:13:51But at first, we have to make it look like we're tourists.
1:13:52At the beginning.
1:13:53Yeah, we'll carry our bags and everything.
1:13:55We need a cover story.
1:13:57I want to go to the refugee camp.
1:13:59Then go to the tourist police?
1:14:01No, forget the tourist police.
1:14:03Yes.
1:14:03I want to go to the refugee camp.
1:14:05Refugee camp? Yes, yes, yes.
1:14:06Rohingya refugee camp.
1:14:08Yes, yes.
1:14:10One way or return?
1:14:11One way.
1:14:12One way?
1:14:14Take me there and wait for me there too, okay?
1:14:16But I'll go there first.
1:14:17Just go there now?
1:14:18Yeah, go. How much?
1:14:20One way, 1,500 BDT.
1:14:22Whoa?
1:14:23Yes. It's 35 km.
1:14:2635 kilometers?
1:14:27Yes, yes, yes.
1:14:28Very far.
1:14:29Yes.
1:14:30I can't ride in this.
1:14:31I need an air-conditioned car.
1:14:32A car?
1:14:33A car, yes.
1:14:34This one's a car, this one.
1:14:36There's a car over here.
1:14:37Over here, this one's a car.
1:14:39What? What?
1:14:40Malaysian stickers.
1:14:41Sarawak is spelled differently, Terengganu too.
1:14:44Kelantan, Penang.
1:14:45Negeri Sembilan.
1:14:46Whoa!
1:14:47Melaka, Perak, Perlis, Pahang,
1:14:49whoa.
1:14:50Crazy, this is rare!
1:14:51Hey, look at this.
1:14:53Look closer,
1:14:53guys. Is that the national emblem?
1:14:55Yeah.
1:14:56Unity is strength.
1:15:00May it bring more progress.
1:15:01Melaka, Negeri Sembilan.
1:15:04What's this? What's this?
1:15:05What's this?
1:15:07This is a sticker.
1:15:08Yeah? What's it for? What's it for?
1:15:11Gangster?
1:15:11I don't know. I don't understand.
1:15:12Oh, you don't understand.
1:15:15Market. Market.
1:15:16Huh?
1:15:16Village market, these stickers.
1:15:19Oh, market stickers?
1:15:21Oh, they're for sale. They sell them.
1:15:27Oh, this is my country.
1:15:29This is Malaysia?
1:15:30Malaysia. Yes, Malaysia.
1:15:34This is Pakistan.
1:15:36This is Pakistan?
1:15:38This is Malaysia, all of it is Malaysia.
1:15:41Terengganu is in Malaysia.
1:15:43It's like Dhaka.
1:15:45Cox's Bazar, Dhaka.
1:15:48Like the different states in Malaysia.
1:15:50But all the spellings...
1:15:51All the spellings are wrong.
1:15:53Oh.
1:15:57If we spelled them like this,
1:15:58they'd give us a hard slap.
1:15:59That's normal in Malaysia.
1:16:01Hahahaha!
1:16:03Can you help me find a car?
1:16:04A good car.
1:16:05The car is only 5,000 BDT.
1:16:081 way?
1:16:09[Tuktuk driver explains it to the car driver.]
1:16:131 way, 6,000 BDT.
1:16:15Huh?
1:16:156,000 BDT.
1:16:17How much for a round trip?
1:16:198,000 BDT
1:16:20I'll only come back at night.
1:16:21Okay, no problem.
1:16:23You go there and come back to Cox's Bazar.
1:16:268,000 BDT.
1:16:37300 BDT for you, 700 BDT for you.
1:16:46I'll give him 300 BDT.
1:16:48All right.
1:16:59Where are you from?
1:17:01My name? Name? Anwar! Anwar!
1:17:04Anwar?
1:17:06Assalamualaikum, Anwar.
1:17:07Waalaikumsalam.
1:17:10Isa, Isa.
1:17:10My name is Isa.
1:17:12My name is Ibrahim.
1:17:13Ibrahim.
1:17:14Yes, Ibrahim. Isa, Musa.
1:17:16Musa.
1:17:17He's Musa, he's Kadir.
1:17:21He's Abdullah.
1:17:23Abdullah?
1:17:23Abdullah.
1:17:25Your country is Malaysia?
1:17:27Malaysia.
1:17:27Yeah.
1:18:04No... the car can't go.
1:18:09The outside area isn't allowed.
1:18:11Yes, the refugee camp.
1:18:12The road to the camp is different.
1:18:14Along this road,
1:18:16there are refugee camps everywhere.
1:18:18Far, far away.
1:18:19[Unclear]
1:18:40Guys.
1:18:42We just received some news
1:18:44that's very disappointing.
1:18:45We're not allowed to approach the refugee camp.
1:18:47We can't even get close on foot.
1:18:49But it's okay, I'll keep trying.
1:18:51I'm also contacting my team.
1:18:54I asked them
1:18:56to speak with
1:18:58their Tourism Minister,
1:19:00the director.
1:19:01Deputy director.
1:19:02Minister or director?
1:19:04I don't understand.
1:19:05In Malaysia, we'd call them a minister,
1:19:07but here they're called a deputy director.
1:19:08So they're in a meeting now.
1:19:10Hopefully they'll allow us to enter.
1:19:12Because someone from their ministry
1:19:14gave us a response earlier.
1:19:15Do you know what he said?
1:19:16He'll try his best.
1:19:18After the meeting, he'll try to get approval.
1:19:20But this is a sensitive issue.
1:19:22It involves many parties.
1:19:24It's such a sensitive issue
1:19:26that even in Bangladesh, it's still sensitive.
1:19:34Yeah.
1:19:34They can provide refugee camps for the Rohingya,
1:19:37for the Rohingya. Right.
1:19:45Maybe they don't actually want
1:19:46to do this either. Who knows,
1:19:48maybe they're being forced to.
1:19:49That's what I think.
1:19:50I think there are 2 possibilities.
1:19:53One, uh... maybe there's a Muslim minister
1:19:57who cares about fellow Muslims,
1:19:59so he created the refugee camp.
1:20:00Or number 2,
1:20:02there's someone corrupt who received money
1:20:04from one side or another.
1:20:07Because when I watch documentaries
1:20:10about Afghanistan, Iraq and all that,
1:20:12yeah, foreign intervention,
1:20:14outside powers within a country,
1:20:18especially a third-world country, can be very powerful.
1:20:20They'll fund 1 political party.
1:20:24They'll provide money
1:20:25to bring in foreign migrants,
1:20:28because they want to make it look
1:20:29like they're solving another country's problem.
1:20:31Do you understand?
1:20:32So maybe something like that is happening.
1:20:34But we don't want to accuse anyone. Why?
1:20:36Because when people do something good,
1:20:38our first thought
1:20:39should always be to assume the best.
1:20:41Yeah. We shouldn't be negative from the start.
1:20:43Because they've already done something good, yet you're thinking,
1:20:45"Oh, they're corrupt."
1:20:46"They're... this and that..." That's not right.
1:20:48Unless we have evidence
1:20:49or there's an article or something.
1:20:52Because when we think negatively,
1:20:54what's going to happen?
1:20:55We're promoting something bad.
1:20:57Eventually, even people doing good things
1:20:58will start thinking,
1:20:59"Man, there's no point in me doing good."
1:21:01People misunderstand them.
1:21:02Do you understand?
1:21:03Then eventually there'll be more
1:21:04people doing bad things.
1:21:06Rohingya market.
1:21:07Rohingya market?
1:21:09Yes.
1:21:09Okay, wait. I want to take a look.
1:21:10Wait, wait, wait, wait.
1:21:11I want to get out.
1:21:13Rohingya market.
1:21:15Maybe we just can't enter the refugee camp,
1:21:18but the village...
1:21:19This is the refugee camp.
1:21:21Where? Where?
1:21:22[Unclear]
1:21:27He's mixing his language with English.
1:21:30Okay. Market?
1:21:33Here, there are houses available.
1:21:35Yes, this car.
1:21:37This one, picture. Okay?
1:21:39Picture?
1:21:41Camera. Picture.
1:21:43Oh, picture, picture.
1:21:45Oh yes, picture.
1:21:52Hello, Yam.
1:21:52Hello, sir.
1:21:53Yes, sir.
1:21:54What did the minister say?
1:21:55Okay, so he's currently
1:21:56contacting them now.
1:21:57Because he said we need
1:21:58several levels of approval.
1:22:00The Ministry of Foreign Affairs,
1:22:02approval from the local district,
1:22:04and also the people managing the refugee camp there.
1:22:08So basically,
1:22:08the United Nations.
1:22:10Yeah. Yeah, I understand.
1:22:11So he said the important thing is...
1:22:16He'll try his best.
1:22:17He's trying his best
1:22:18to get approval right now.
1:22:21He strongly recommends
1:22:22that you all bring someone with you.
1:22:25Apparently, that's just how
1:22:26you get around in Bangladesh.
1:22:27You need someone
1:22:28to take you around.
1:22:29Yes.
1:22:30He suggested a taxi...
1:22:33So I've asked him to give me the phone number
1:22:34of someone in Cox's Bazar.
1:22:36Yeah.
1:22:37So they can meet our team there.
1:22:40Okay, sure. If he has someone there,
1:22:42we can pay them to take us around,
1:22:44whatever it takes,
1:22:46as long as we get approval as soon as possible.
1:22:47Yeah, like that.
1:22:48All right, sir.
1:22:51Okay, thank you, sir.
1:22:52Okay. Thank you.
1:22:53Man...
1:22:55The UN too. There are layers of approval.
1:22:57So many layers.
1:22:59There are so many layers.
1:23:00Why does everyone look so unhappy?
1:23:03Huh?
1:23:04Those who go to Malaysia get yelled at too.
1:23:07They get scolded at the airport, right?
1:23:09They're already used to this kind of culture.
1:23:13But I feel sorry for them.
1:23:13I feel sorry for them.
1:23:14Just relaxing and taking it easy like this
1:23:16is considered bad here.
1:23:18Is everyone here Rohingya now?
1:23:20Huh?
1:23:22Here?
1:23:23Yes. Everyone in this market is Rohingya now.
1:23:27Oh!
1:23:29No wonder they're starting to look pretty intimidating.
1:23:34Whoa, whoa, whoa.
1:23:36Oh, are all these people Rohingya?
1:23:38Yes.
1:23:39Oh, look.
1:23:40They look happy living here.
1:23:43So why do they go all the way to Malaysia?
1:23:46Where's the stress? Of course life is hard.
1:23:48No. If they say they're stressed,
1:23:49people getting angry at them here is stressful too.
1:23:51They're doing business just fine, even smoking cigarettes.
1:23:53Everything looks fine.
1:23:53Yeah.
1:23:54Maybe life is difficult,
1:23:56but that's just part of life.
1:23:58Life is hard wherever you are.
1:24:01Yeah.
1:24:02Even if they aim high, what would they buy?
1:24:04Exactly.
1:24:06Because they don't come
1:24:07directly from Myanmar, you know.
1:24:08They come from here
1:24:09to Malaysia. Most of them come from here.
1:24:12Oh, not directly from Myanmar?
1:24:13No. They come from Myanmar to here.
1:24:16Oh, and then from here they go to Malaysia?
1:24:18Yeah, they go from here to Malaysia.
1:24:20The ones causing trouble.
1:24:22Yeah.
1:24:23Oh, right.
1:24:25Oh, right. You can tell this isn't Bangladesh.
1:24:27This really doesn't look like Bangladesh.
1:24:29Yeah, they really do look Rohingya.
1:24:30Oh, it's like we're back in Malaysia.
1:24:31Now we can already tell who's Rohingya.
1:24:55Wait, wait, wait, wait.
1:24:56Wait!
1:24:57I want to go over there.
1:24:59Wait. Stop, stop.
1:25:00Okay, get out. Get out, get out, get out.
1:25:02Man, this is good. It doesn't look too crowded here.
1:25:03There don't seem to be too many people here. This looks nice.
1:25:05Let's try asking them.
1:25:06We'll start from deeper inside,
1:25:09in a more secluded area.
1:25:11Awie, don't show your face at all, okay?
1:25:14For 7 km, everyone is Rohingya.
1:25:17Everyone is Rohingya?
1:25:21Oh!
1:25:23Everyone is Rohingya.
1:25:25The Bangladeshi military guards this area.
1:25:31The Rohingya aren't allowed to leave this area.
1:25:38Oh, okay, okay, okay.
1:25:41So only this area?
1:25:42If they leave, they get arrested?
1:25:46Oh, that means
1:25:47the Rohingya
1:25:48aren't allowed to leave the area...
1:25:50the designated area. This is their area.
1:25:52They can't leave this area.
1:25:54That means if they leave,
1:25:55they'll be arrested.
1:25:58If they leave, they get arrested.
1:26:00What camera is that?
1:26:01Do you want to go into the refugee camp?
1:26:03Yes.
1:26:05[Driver explains it to the man.]
1:26:16[They speak in Bangladeshi.]
1:26:22How many hours do you want to spend inside the refugee camp?
1:26:27Only 1 hour.
1:26:29Enough?
1:26:30No. Too long.
1:26:31Too long?
1:26:32Yes, how long is allowed?
1:26:35Only 30 minutes.
1:26:36Only 30 minutes?
1:26:37Can we?
1:26:38Yes.
1:26:40Only 30 minutes.
1:26:4130 minutes?
1:26:42Go in, then come out.
1:26:44Are you a journalist?
1:26:46Yes, yes, journalist.
1:26:47Yes, journalist.
1:26:50Yes, journalist.
1:26:51Yes, can you...
1:26:52Can you show me around?
1:26:53I'll show you around for only 30 minutes.
1:26:58Okay. Okay.
1:27:01Take some videos and some pictures,
1:27:06and then we'll leave.
1:27:07Leave? Okay, okay.
1:27:12SUII!!
1:27:14Do you know Ronaldo?
1:27:19This is seriously dangerous for you, you know.
1:27:20You still look like Awie.
1:27:22Really?
1:27:24I'm worried you'll get mobbed.
1:27:25Are you sure?
1:27:27But I don't want to stop you from doing anything.
1:27:29I'm worried. I'm worried about your safety.
1:27:31God willing, it'll be okay.
1:27:32God willing, it'll be okay, right?
1:27:34Whatever happens is...
1:27:35Yes, exactly. It's my risk.
1:27:37Your risk, huh.
1:27:38Because we've already come this far.
1:27:40It would be a waste not to experience it.
1:27:42If I were you, I'd be scared.
1:27:44Because people will definitely be able to recognize you.
1:27:46Even when I disguise myself as someone else in Malaysia,
1:27:48people can still recognize me
1:27:49by my voice.
1:27:54Don't go to the camp. Don't take the risk.
1:28:00Here, talk to the military.
1:28:02I want to see the culture.
1:28:03Culture, culture.
1:28:05[Interpreter explains in Bangladeshi.]
1:28:18Yes. Okay, let's go.
1:28:22Not here. Over there.
1:28:25Okay. Follow us.
1:28:28I want to bring him with us in our car.
1:28:36Okay? Okay.
1:28:39What's your name?
1:28:39My name is Paru.
1:28:41Paru?
1:28:42Yes, Muhammad Paru.
1:28:43Muhammad Paru?
1:28:44Yes.
1:28:46We're going to...
1:28:51No, come here. Yeah.
1:28:54So, what's your name?
1:28:55My name is Muhammad Faruk.
1:28:56Muhammad Faruk.
1:28:58Yeah.
1:28:58How old are you?
1:29:00I'm 22 years old.
1:29:01Where did you learn English?
1:29:03School...
1:29:05Primary school.
1:29:06You learned English from primary school?
1:29:08I want to know. Uh...
1:29:11How many people are here?
1:29:13Rohingya people.
1:29:14Maybe 12 lakh.
1:29:1712 lakh? So 1.2 million.
1:29:19Okay, 1.2 million, yes, 12 lakh.
1:29:24New arrivals, 2 lakh.
1:29:25Huh?
1:29:26New arrivals, 2 lakh.
1:29:27Huh? 2 lakh? Oh.
1:29:29After...
1:29:31After what?
1:29:31After 1 year.
1:29:33After 1 year?
1:29:34Yes, the year 2000?
1:29:362027.
1:29:37Oh, sorry. 20... 2017.
1:29:412017?
1:29:42Yes. A lot of people.
1:29:46Yes, yes.
1:29:472017, a massive displacement.
1:29:50Yes.
1:29:51The Arakan Army,
1:29:53yes, the Arakan Army and the government.
1:29:58The government army.
1:30:01Oh, what do you do here? Work?
1:30:03Work? I don't...
1:30:06I don't work.
1:30:06So how do you get money?
1:30:09WHO provides food.
1:30:13Who?
1:30:14WHO. World Health Organization.
1:30:16Oh, WHO!
1:30:19A little food. Yes.
1:30:21Not a lot of food.
1:30:23Okay. WHO gives you a little food,
1:30:26just enough to survive, basically.
1:30:28Okay. WHO provides food.
1:30:45If you ask, sir...
1:30:47If you get sick,
1:30:51if you're sick, where do you go?
1:30:54Primary medical center.
1:30:56Oh, there's primary healthcare? WHO?
1:30:59No. Another organization.
1:31:02Oh, another organization. Okay.
1:31:05If the illness is serious,
1:31:07you need to get treatment outside.
1:31:09Oh, okay.
1:31:10Okay, okay, okay, okay.
1:31:13Okay.
1:31:14This is the latest information.
1:31:15This is the latest information. Yes.
1:31:18We can learn all sorts of things
1:31:19about this place from this kid.
1:31:20Because he uses ChatGPT.
1:31:22Yeah.
1:31:22So he's really...
1:31:24He's really modern.
1:31:25A modern Rohingya.
1:31:26RM, RM.
1:31:27Like Malaysian Ringgit.
1:31:28He's a modern Rohingya.
1:31:29He's RM!
1:31:30Man, if we go in there with the camera,
1:31:32I'm worried it'll get stolen.
1:31:35Move. Move. Move.
1:31:37Okay. Okay. Okay.
1:31:40Safe?
1:31:44Let's give him a microphone, bro.
1:31:46Tell him when we go in, don't talk too much.
1:31:48Don't do anything.
1:31:48Hey, brother.
1:31:49Let's give him a microphone, okay?
1:31:51Do you want to do an interview?
1:31:541 person or 2 people?
1:31:56Okay, okay.
1:31:57Find me someone
1:31:58who knows English.
1:31:59No English.
1:32:00They only know Rohingya.
1:32:01Okay.
1:32:03Okay, you tell me.
1:32:04Oh, is this the camp?
1:32:07This is the camp.
1:32:08Yes.
1:32:08Oh!
1:32:11Here, here, inside.
1:32:14Is it safe?
1:32:16Yes, you're safe now.
1:32:18Should I use the big camera or the small camera?
1:32:23The small camera is better.
1:32:25Better?
1:32:26Okay. Come here. Come here.
1:32:27No, no, no.
1:32:28Huh? No. I want to change cameras.
1:32:31Yeah, Iman, come here.
1:32:321 person stays here.
1:32:34Okay, no problem.
1:32:35If anything bad
1:32:36happens to me inside,
1:32:38I'll contact him.
1:32:39Take him to the police station, okay?
1:32:41Okay. No problem.
1:32:42Okay? Okay.
1:32:43Okay. You wait inside.
1:32:46If anything happens later, okay?
1:32:48For example, if anything happens,
1:32:49if we get detained here,
1:32:50I'll WhatsApp you.
1:32:52"Iman, danger," okay?
1:32:53Go straight to the police station.
1:32:55Tell them.
1:32:56We're from the media.
1:32:58The media. And we're being detained inside the refugee camp.
1:33:01Okay, okay.
1:33:03All right, okay? Hand over all the stuff.
1:33:36So, right now,
1:33:38I've prepared all the equipment
1:33:40for secretly recording.
1:33:43Hopefully everything goes well.
1:33:44Oh God, this is dangerous.
1:33:45Seriously, it's dangerous.
1:33:47Awie, he was staring at your face for ages earlier.
1:33:52I think this is dangerous, Awie.
1:33:58Okay, there's no way we'd normally be able to get in here.
1:34:01There's no way we'd be able to just enter the place we want to enter.
1:34:04We're risking our lives here.
1:34:05It's insanely difficult to get in.
1:34:07I'm risking my life.
1:34:08Seriously, I'm risking my life.
1:34:13Hey, what's up with that kid?
1:34:17That kid isn't wearing any clothes at all.
1:34:20Cox's Bazar is a district in southeastern Bangladesh.
1:34:24It borders Myanmar.
1:34:25It is famous for its natural beach,
1:34:27one of the longest in the world,
1:34:29but further inland in this district
1:34:31lies the world's largest refugee camp.
1:34:33It is home to Rohingya refugees.
1:34:35More than 930,000 people live
1:34:38across 33 interconnected camps
1:34:40covering an area of only about 24 km².
1:34:44Its population density is higher than Dhaka,
1:34:46one of the most crowded cities in the world.
1:34:48Nearly 200,000 families
1:34:50live in self-built shelters
1:34:52made from bamboo and plastic sheeting.
1:34:54Each shelter costs around $1,200 USD,
1:34:57but they cannot withstand heavy rain,
1:35:00floods and landslides.
1:35:01Every year, from June to October,
1:35:03the monsoon season destroys many shelters
1:35:05and forces families to rebuild them.
1:35:07When it rains,
1:35:08the solar panels receive no sunlight
1:35:10and their shelters remain dark throughout the night.
1:35:13The United Nations
1:35:14states that each person
1:35:15needs at least
1:35:1645 m² of living space.
1:35:19Only 6 of the 33 camps meet this standard,
1:35:23while 24 camps are at critical levels,
1:35:25with 29 m² or less per person.
1:35:29The most crowded is Camp 3,
1:35:31with only 12 m² per person,
1:35:33an area of 3.5 m X 3.5 m,
1:35:36about the size of a bedroom.
1:35:38In such a small space, they sleep,
1:35:41cook and live their entire lives.
1:35:43Some families of 11 people share 1 shelter.
1:35:46The toilets in these camps
1:35:47are communal toilets shared by many people.
1:35:49According to UNHCR standards,
1:35:511 toilet should be shared by
1:35:53no more than 20 people
1:35:54during an emergency,
1:35:55and in the long term,
1:35:561 toilet should be provided for each family.
1:35:58However, 19 of the 33 camps
1:36:01exceed this limit.
1:36:02At Kutupalong Camp,
1:36:03an average of 54 people share 1 toilet.
1:36:06Many toilets overflow and have no lighting,
1:36:08making them unusable.
1:36:10The bathing facilities are small cubicles
1:36:12scattered throughout the camps.
1:36:14The United Nations standard
1:36:15is 50 people per 1 bathing facility.
1:36:17At Kutupalong,
1:36:18which houses nearly 18,000 residents,
1:36:20an average of 224 people share 1 bathing facility.
1:36:24For water,
1:36:25the United Nations standard
1:36:26is 1 water source
1:36:27for every 80 people.
1:36:2922 of the 33 camps
1:36:31meet this standard,
1:36:33but at Camp 22 and Nayapara Camp,
1:36:35the number of users per water source
1:36:37is more than 10 times the limit.
1:36:39Children and women line up at hand-pump wells
1:36:42amid shouting
1:36:42to get drinking water every day.
1:36:44When the rainy season arrives,
1:36:46floods contaminate the water
1:36:47and damage basic facilities.
1:36:49Overcrowding and poor sanitation
1:36:51allow diseases to spread easily:
1:36:52dengue, waterborne diseases
1:36:54and skin infections occur
1:36:56in almost every family.
1:36:57Doctors Without Borders reported
1:36:59the largest scabies outbreak ever recorded,
1:37:01infecting more than 40% of camp residents,
1:37:04more than 400,000 people.
1:37:06This is the daily life
1:37:07of nearly 1,000,000 people in Cox's Bazar:
1:37:09cramped living spaces,
1:37:10toilets shared by dozens of people,
1:37:12limited water
1:37:14and bamboo shelters that must endure
1:37:16every rainy season.
1:37:19Oh, is this a mosque?
1:37:21Yes.
1:37:21A mosque?
1:37:22Oh.
1:37:23Can I go inside the mosque?
1:37:27Is that the mosque?
1:37:30It's locked.
1:37:31Locked? Oh, okay, okay.
1:37:33This is a water tank.
1:37:36This is from ADB.
1:37:40The ADB organization? Oh, a water tank.
1:37:431 water tank for all these houses?
1:37:46Yes.
1:37:48What about pipes? No pipes?
1:37:54So, this is a new shop.
1:37:55What kind of shop is this?
1:37:58Huh? Oh.
1:38:00A coffee shop, that shop.
1:38:01Coffee shop.
1:38:02Okay, when did you come here?
1:38:05When? 2000?
1:38:111992.
1:38:141992?
1:38:15Yes.
1:38:16Whoa!
1:38:17Okay, see you again. Love you.
1:38:21Chai, chai.
1:38:23Do you have chai?
1:38:24Chai, chai.
1:38:25I want to try chai.
1:38:27Assalamualaikum.
1:38:28Teh tarik.
1:38:28Whoa, their version of teh tarik.
1:38:30Hey, do you have chai, chai?
1:38:32No, no, no, no.
1:38:33No chai?
1:38:35Yeah, teh tarik.
1:38:36What am I supposed to ask him?
1:38:37What should I say to him?
1:38:43Okay, come here.
1:38:47Err... bhai.
1:38:50[Isa tries speaking Bangla]
1:38:58Yeah, that, that! Chai. Chai!
1:39:02Whoa, the chai is good. The chai is good.
1:39:05This is good stuff.
1:39:07Whoa! Delicious.
1:39:08Hahahaha!
1:39:11Good stuff.
1:39:15Whoa!
1:39:17How is it?
1:39:18Is it good?
1:39:19Want to try?
1:39:20Oh, it's delicious!
1:39:21Hahahaha!
1:39:23Whoa!
1:39:24We're the biggest gangsters, you know.
1:39:25In 2015, we won for being the biggest gangsters.
1:39:27You look over here, okay.
1:39:28Don't look over there.
1:39:29Bismillah, bismillah.
1:39:30We're among the toughest people around.
1:39:32Because we entered their camp.
1:39:34We can just chill and have a drink.
1:39:36We can just chill and drink teh tarik.
1:39:39Among the toughest people around.
1:39:45Whoa!
1:39:46Thank you.
1:39:47Thank you.
1:39:58Very good.
1:40:02Thank you. I love you.
1:40:06Man, what if there had been a camera earlier?
1:40:08It would've been even more crowded.
1:40:09Whoa! Malay again.
1:40:11Malay?
1:40:13Can you speak Malay?
1:40:14He's my friend. My friend.
1:40:19Where do you live?
1:40:20Here. I live here now.
1:40:21Oh, okay, okay, okay.
1:40:23Malaysia?
1:40:24Yes. Where did you live in Malaysia?
1:40:26Ipoh.
1:40:27Ipoh? Perak.
1:40:30Don't make a sound, Awie.
1:40:33It's dangerous. We don't know.
1:40:38It's not that bad.
1:40:41It's okay.
1:40:45Yeah, I want to know what
1:40:47life is like for the Rohingya here.
1:40:49These are all Rohingya.
1:40:51These are all Rohingya.
1:40:55All Rohingya?
1:40:56Yes, all Rohingya.
1:40:58Ohh!
1:41:00How long has this village been here?
1:41:02This? A very long time.
1:41:04It's been 35 years.
1:41:0735 years?
1:41:09Oh, how did you manage to come back here?
1:41:11After going to Malaysia.
1:41:12How did you come here?
1:41:13My father, my mother.
1:41:14They're all from Myanmar, right?
1:41:15They came back to Bangladesh 35 years ago.
1:41:19Yeah.
1:41:22No. You, how did you
1:41:23learn to speak Malay?
1:41:24I used to be in Malaysia. 3 years.
1:41:263 years?
1:41:27How did you come back here?
1:41:29I bought a flight ticket.
1:41:30By plane?
1:41:31You came here?
1:41:32Yeah, did immigration send you here, or did you come yourself?
1:41:35I left on my own.
1:41:37Huh?
1:41:40What did you use? A UN card or something?
1:41:42No, I stayed in Malaysia undocumented.
1:41:44He's my friend.
1:41:45Oh, you stayed in Malaysia undocumented?
1:41:48Then how did you come here?
1:41:49What did you use? A passport?
1:41:50No. Passport? Nothing?
1:41:52I came back.
1:41:54I'm from here, right?
1:41:56Yeah.
1:41:58Oh, you got a Bangladeshi passport?
1:41:59Immigration.
1:42:02Immigration?
1:42:06Bus?
1:42:06Yes. Yes.
1:42:07How did you get on the plane?
1:42:09Did you use a Bangladeshi passport?
1:42:10When I came back to Bangladesh, right?
1:42:12Yeah.
1:42:12My father and mother are here, right?
1:42:15Yeah.
1:42:15That's a Bangladeshi ID card, right?
1:42:17Yeah.
1:42:18His people sent it to Malaysia.
1:42:21He got a passport made there.
1:42:22Oh! Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
1:42:26Oh, he has an ID card here.
1:42:28So, they sent it to Malaysia.
1:42:29You got the passport made there.
1:42:31After getting the passport, you flew here.
1:42:32Oh, so you didn't get caught by immigration?
1:42:35Oh! I understand, I understand, I understand.
1:42:38Whoa! Hahahaha!
1:42:39You're awesome.
1:42:40Brother, he's my friend.
1:42:41Call him over here.
1:42:44Yeah. Yeah.
1:42:46Where should I go?
1:42:47Where are we going?
1:42:48Let's take him somewhere a little quieter.
1:42:50You want to look around, right?
1:42:52Yeah, I want to look around.
1:42:54Scan the WhatsApp QR code.
1:42:56WhatsApp, WhatsApp.
1:42:57Should I take him?
1:42:58Yes.
1:42:59Okay, follow me.
1:43:02I want to go eat.
1:43:04I want to take him with me.
1:43:05He can speak Malay.
1:43:08He can speak my language.
1:43:10Okay.
1:43:10I want to take him for an interview.
1:43:12Okay, no problem.
1:43:14Okay, let's go.
1:43:15Let's get in.
1:43:15Give it to him. Give it to him.
1:43:19Hahahaha!
1:43:22Just like that, brother.
1:43:23Brother, brother.
1:43:25Whoa, you're pretty muscular too.
1:43:27I flew the drone and got all the shots.
1:43:29He wouldn't let any of the kids come near me.
1:43:31He chased them all away.
1:43:33Why is everyone gathering around?
1:43:35Well, they're looking at the Malaysians.
1:43:39Ohh!
1:43:40They're all happy.
1:43:41They're happy?
1:43:43They're happy.
1:43:44You're all from another country.
1:43:47That's why they're happy.
1:43:50When Malaysians see me as a Rohingya,
1:43:51they don't check.
1:43:54How many years were you in Malaysia?
1:43:56Er, 2.
1:43:582 years and 5 months.
1:44:012 years and you're already good at speaking Malay.
1:44:02Yes, I'm good at speaking Malay.
1:44:03Yes, my boss.
1:44:05My boss.
1:44:06My boss was Malay.
1:44:08My boss.
1:44:10You learned quickly. Yeah.
1:44:11Hey, what do you think I should see
1:44:14in this Rohingya town?
1:44:16What should I see?
1:44:17What else should I see around here?
1:44:20What should I see?
1:44:22I'm the person from
1:44:24there.
1:44:25Earlier?
1:44:25Yeah.
1:44:26That's done already.
1:44:27What else is there?
1:44:28Something else... That...
1:44:30Where is their school?
1:44:31Where is the Rohingya school?
1:44:33Oh, the Rohingya school is over there. All of them.
1:44:35Yes, inside. There aren't any outside.
1:44:37Can I see their school?
1:44:39The ones here are Bengali.
1:44:41I have a school here.
1:44:42There, no...
1:44:43You can't go in there?
1:44:45No. You can go in there.
1:44:46But that's a registered camp.
1:44:48You can enter a registered camp.
1:44:50I don't know about other places.
1:44:51The police make things difficult.
1:44:53Look at all this.
1:44:55It's the market.
1:44:56This is how it is 24 hours a day.
1:44:58It's like this 24 hours a day?
1:44:59Yes, like this.
1:45:00Oh!
1:45:01It's the same even through the night.
1:45:03Even past 2 at night.
1:45:06Look at this restaurant.
1:45:08This is open 24 hours. Like that.
1:45:10This one too?
1:45:11No. This one closes.
1:45:12People like it. Look.
1:45:14This is where my brother works.
1:45:16Oh yeah, a restaurant?
1:45:18Yes, this restaurant.
1:45:18This restaurant is really good.
1:45:20Boss, park here. I want to go to the restaurant.
1:45:22Food. Food. Yum, yum, yum.
1:45:27This is the best one around here.
1:45:30Restaurant. There's no restaurant.
1:45:36I want food from a Rohingya restaurant.
1:45:38[Young man explains to the driver]
1:45:42Rohingya food.
1:45:43[Young man explains to the driver]
1:46:02What did he say?
1:46:03A lot of problems. A lot of problems.
1:46:05This is going to cause problems.
1:46:06The problem is,
1:46:10in Bangladesh, you need a permit. You don't have one.
1:46:12Do you have a permit?
1:46:12Yes. I have a permit. Tourist.
1:46:14No. Tourists aren't allowed.
1:46:16Not tourist. Tourism...
1:46:19You can't enter the Rohingya area.
1:46:20It's about culture now. Learning about the culture.
1:46:22Food, beautiful places, schools.
1:46:25Clinics. Things like that.
1:46:26Not refugees. Understand?
1:46:33Okay, I have police protecting me.
1:46:37Talk to him. I have...
1:46:40He said if the police give you any trouble,
1:46:43that's your own problem.
1:46:44He doesn't want to get involved.
1:46:46He doesn't want to get involved?
1:46:48Okay, okay.
1:46:48Talk to him.
1:46:50I've already spoken to the deputy director
1:46:52of the tourism board.
1:46:54Whoa! Whoa!
1:46:56Awesome!
1:47:05There's only this to eat.
1:47:07Then we'll see.
1:47:08I want Rohingya food.
1:47:13Whoa, there's a room.
1:47:15There's a room.
1:47:18Let's go, Awie.
1:47:21Do you want something sweet or spicy?
1:47:23Eat what?
1:47:24Sweet or spicy?
1:47:25Spicy.
1:47:28I'm surprised. Looking around here,
1:47:32when I was living in Malaysia,
1:47:34I thought all the Rohingya were fenced in.
1:47:37All the Rohingya villages?
1:47:40Fenced in. Like there are walls.
1:47:42Everything is closed off.
1:47:43Yes. Everything is closed off.
1:47:44It's closed off like that.
1:47:46But it's not completely closed. They can get out.
1:47:48They can go to the market.
1:47:49Yes, they can.
1:47:50Oh, they can.
1:47:51Then why do they come to Malaysia?
1:47:52There are gates. Small gates, right?
1:47:54Small ones, there are gates, right?
1:47:56Those are all closed. Look.
1:47:57There are Rohingya people all over there, right?
1:47:59It's all closed off there. There are small gates.
1:48:03But people sneak back in.
1:48:04They sneak inside.
1:48:06They sneak out, things like that.
1:48:07Yeah, oh!
1:48:08I thought they couldn't get out.
1:48:09I don't think they're actually allowed to leave.
1:48:11It's very difficult for the Rohingya.
1:48:13There are a lot of Rohingya who've been here a long time.
1:48:15There are rebel refugees and all sorts of people here, right?
1:48:18There are a lot of people.
1:48:19Life is very difficult for people here.
1:48:22The police are the same too.
1:48:23Look, if you can give them food,
1:48:27they'll meet with you.
1:48:29If you don't give them food,
1:48:30if you don't give them money, they don't like you.
1:48:32The police are the same too.
1:48:34Where are the businesspeople? Go take a look.
1:48:37It's very difficult.
1:48:38This is my brother.
1:48:40Oh, your brother?
1:48:40Yes, this is my brother.
1:48:41He's fair-skinned, while I'm dark, right?
1:48:44Your faces look different. Why are you dark?
1:48:46Because of work. I work out in the heat.
1:48:48He works under a fan.
1:48:50Yes.
1:48:52Whoa, bro, this looks delicious.
1:48:53Can I have this?
1:48:55Is it chicken or what?
1:48:57What kind of chicken is that?
1:48:58I don't like chicken.
1:48:59Is the chicken already cooked?
1:49:00Old chicken?
1:49:02No, no.
1:49:04No.
1:49:05This is free-range chicken.
1:49:07This is the real thing.
1:49:10Whoa! It's like meat!
1:49:16There's one thing I want to know.
1:49:17Why leave this place?
1:49:18This place is already beautiful, right?
1:49:21It's really beautiful, isn't it?
1:49:22This place is beautiful, right?
1:49:23Beautiful.
1:49:24If it's beautiful, why do people leave and go to Malaysia?
1:49:27Here, people's wages
1:49:30are very low.
1:49:31Look, for 1 day of work,
1:49:33they pay people 400 BDT, 300 BDT.
1:49:36In Malaysian Ringgit, that's RM10, RM15.
1:49:40Something like that.
1:49:41But there are many other countries with higher wages.
1:49:44Why Malaysia?
1:49:44Why don't you go to the United States,
1:49:47or Europe? Wages are higher there.
1:49:48Yeah. It's easier to go to Malaysia.
1:49:51It's easier to go to Malaysia, bro.
1:49:53Easier? What do you mean by easier?
1:49:56[Unclear]
1:49:59Yeah. By boat. By boat.
1:50:01I think it's a little easier for them to go there.
1:50:04America and Australia are far away.
1:50:08They're far away, that's why.
1:50:09But there are also people from Arakan, right?
1:50:14He had the chance to go to the United States,
1:50:16but he didn't want to go to America.
1:50:18There are Rohingya people in America too.
1:50:20There are some in Canada and the United States.
1:50:22There are some in New Zealand too. They're everywhere.
1:50:25Here, ah, that's Indonesia, right?
1:50:27In Indonesia, they send them there.
1:50:29UN?
1:50:30They send the good people?
1:50:32They send the good people.
1:50:33They don't send the gangsters?
1:50:34No. Hahahaha!
1:50:36But what do you think,
1:50:38out of all the countries Rohingya people go to,
1:50:41which country is the best to go to?
1:50:44The best country. The one with the nicest people?
1:50:46I came back from Malaysia on my own, right?
1:50:49I enjoyed Malaysia.
1:50:50Oh, you enjoyed Malaysia?
1:50:51But there's a problem in Malaysia now, you know.
1:50:54Yes, problems with the Rohingya?
1:50:55Malaysians don't want Rohingya people anymore.
1:50:57They don't like Rohingya people.
1:50:58Have you seen that?
1:50:59Why? What happened?
1:51:00I don't know. I'm the same too.
1:51:02People don't like Rohingya.
1:51:05What's your plan?
1:51:07Do you want to stay here for a long time?
1:51:09Or do you have a plan?
1:51:10What do you want to do?
1:51:12I have a plan. Another country.
1:51:14You want to go to another country?
1:51:15Which country?
1:51:16If the Indonesians
1:51:18help me, my people can go.
1:51:21You'd go if they helped you?
1:51:23If they don't help, I can't go.
1:51:25But where are you planning to go?
1:51:27I have a plan.
1:51:28My plan is to go to America.
1:51:32You have a plan?
1:51:34If they send me, I have a plan.
1:51:36If I have to do it myself, I can't.
1:51:37You can't stay here for a long time on your own?
1:51:39No.
1:51:40I can't go to Canada or America on my own.
1:51:45I can't go on my own.
1:51:46He can't leave on his own
1:51:49unless he goes by boat and all that.
1:51:53I've already asked how...
1:51:55he survived in Malaysia.
1:51:58How much is this?
1:52:00Good food is cheap, around RM70.
1:52:06This. This.
1:52:08This is meat, chicken, rice.
1:52:12[Man speaks Bangla]
1:52:22150 BDT. 150 BDT.
1:52:28That's cheap.
1:52:30Can I ask one more question?
1:52:321 more.
1:52:33Just 1.
1:52:35You live here, right?
1:52:36Yes.
1:52:36Does the Bangladeshi government help?
1:52:40Does the Bangladeshi government provide any help?
1:52:42Food, money, anything?
1:52:45The Bangladeshi government?
1:52:47For me?
1:52:48For Rohingya people.
1:52:50Yes. Yes.
1:52:50They help?
1:52:51Yes. For 1 person...
1:52:55A family of 5 people, right?
1:52:57Yeah, they give 700 BDT per person.
1:53:00They give that?
1:53:01Yes, they do.
1:53:02Every month?
1:53:04Oh!
1:53:06Like zakat?
1:53:08700, and there are others too.
1:53:10There are people who can't work.
1:53:12There's assistance for disabled people.
1:53:141,000 BDT. Something like that.
1:53:16Whoa, the Bangladeshi government is good.
1:53:18That's for 1 month, not 1 day.
1:53:201 month, yes.
1:53:23How do they give it to you?
1:53:24Do you have to fill in a form or something?
1:53:26They have that, yeah, look... what is it?
1:53:29Online?
1:53:30Yes, online. Online.
1:53:31Oh, online.
1:53:31You go there, fill in the form, names and everything.
1:53:34Oh!
1:53:34Guys, next, I have 1 idea.
1:53:38How about we go to their market
1:53:40and see for ourselves
1:53:41what kinds of businesses they have.
1:53:42Their markets? Nice.
1:53:44Okay.
1:53:45Let's go to the market.
1:53:47I want to see what
1:53:48kinds of businesses there are.
1:53:49Market. Market.
1:53:49Yes. Yes. Yes.
1:53:52Yeah. Okay.
1:53:54Everyone, watch your pockets.
1:53:56Yeah.
1:54:03Watch your pockets.
1:54:05Watch your back pockets.
1:54:09Make sure you're safe. Okay?
1:54:11Okay.
1:54:12Watch your back pocket.
1:54:14Oh, my back pocket? Okay.
1:54:16There are a lot of things like this here.
1:54:19Is this okay? Can I bring the camera?
1:54:21Camera, okay?
1:54:22Yeah, that's fine. Okay.
1:54:25Okay.
1:54:26Yeah. We've reached the market. This is their market.
1:54:28Market. Yeah!
1:54:30Okay.
1:54:33There are a lot of traffic jams in Bangladesh.
1:54:34A lot of traffic jams, huh? Yeah.
1:54:37This is called a tongtong.
1:54:39Tongtong? Ohh!
1:54:40This is a bus.
1:54:42Where does this bus go?
1:54:44This bus goes to Dhaka.
1:54:47If you take the bus, won't the police stop you?
1:54:50No.
1:54:51Oh, is this a Bangladeshi ambulance?
1:54:53Yes. It's a Bangladeshi ambulance.
1:54:56Oh, it comes in here?
1:54:57Yes. There's someone inside now.
1:55:02Oh.
1:55:03This is called ainsi here.
1:55:06It's from Myanmar.
1:55:08We have this in Malaysia.
1:55:10A lot? A lot?
1:55:12Here, it's called ainsi.
1:55:14How do you eat it?
1:55:16If you want to eat it, you have to cook it.
1:55:17Oh, cook it.
1:55:20Whoa! Real sugarcane!
1:55:22Real sugarcane!
1:55:24Hey, I want some. Can you help me order it?
1:55:27I want sugarcane juice.
1:55:29To drink?
1:55:30Drink.
1:55:54Strong!
1:55:56It really tastes like sugarcane. Pure sugarcane.
1:55:59Whoa! It's not too sweet. Okay.
1:56:04Woo!
1:56:05Thirsty, huh?
1:56:06Someone's thirsty. Hahahaha!
1:56:09Crazy, crazy!
1:56:10Hahahaha!
1:56:11Is it good?
1:56:12Delicious!
1:56:13Want some more?
1:56:14Huh?
1:56:15Eh, it's okay. It's okay.
1:56:16Hahahaha!
1:56:22What else should I see at the market?
1:56:23Let's go inside, bro.
1:56:25Go inside, okay.
1:56:25Let's go inside this market.
1:56:27Bro, go past him.
1:56:29Oh, everyone has a business here?
1:56:30Yes, businesses. There are all kinds of businesses.
1:56:32There are Rohingya and Bengali people.
1:56:36It's like being in a movie.
1:56:42Hahahaha!
1:56:44This is like Chow Kit, you know.
1:56:45It smells like Chow Kit and Selayang.
1:56:46A gold shop.
1:56:47They sell gold.
1:56:49Gold? Real gold?
1:56:50Yes.
1:56:54They have ones from Myanmar and ones from Bangladesh.
1:56:59Oh!
1:57:01There are Myanmar and Bangladeshi ones.
1:57:02Really? Is it genuine?
1:57:03Of course. It's genuine!
1:57:06Yeah. Okay, okay.
1:57:08This is expensive.
1:57:10Hey, don't people come here to steal?
1:57:12Steal? There are cameras. Look at all the CCTV cameras.
1:57:16If they steal.
1:57:18How are you?
1:57:19Any problems?
1:57:20No. No.
1:57:21No problems.
1:57:24Hahahaha!
1:57:27Why?
1:57:29Hahahaha!
1:57:30Why would there be a problem?
1:57:31Oh, I think this is like a shopping mall.
1:57:34Whoa, it's huge inside.
1:57:36I thought...
1:57:36there were only a lot of shops in front.
1:57:40There are clothing and pants shops inside.
1:57:43Bro, it's insanely huge.
1:57:45Their market is insanely huge.
1:57:46If you walk around here alone, you'll get lost.
1:57:49You'll get lost. Hahahaha!
1:57:51He said if you walk around on your own,
1:57:53you'll get lost in here.
1:57:54That's true. You'll get lost.
1:57:55Yeah. Because it's insanely huge.
1:57:56You won't be able to find your way?
1:57:57It's huge!
1:57:58Insanely huge.
1:57:59If you walk around alone, you'll get lost.
1:58:02Hahahaha!
1:58:03You'll get lost, lost.
1:58:15Okay, let's go back out to the front.
1:58:17I'm already lost in here.
1:58:19Let's go back to the front.
1:58:20Huh?
1:58:20Can I go back?
1:58:21Hey, wait. Come with us first.
1:58:25Come with us first.
1:58:26I still want to go somewhere else.
1:58:28Yeah, you want to go to Cox's Bazar, right?
1:58:31No. I don't want to go back yet.
1:58:32I want to see a few more places.
1:58:36Next, I want to see that beautiful place.
1:58:40A beautiful place.
1:58:40When the Rohingya get bored,
1:58:44when the Rohingya get bored,
1:58:47they, they...
1:58:48Where do the young people go to hang out? Hang out?
1:58:50Here.
1:58:52Around here?
1:58:53It's nearby. About 10 minutes by car.
1:58:55Yeah, what's there?
1:58:57It's beautiful. There's the Myanmar border.
1:59:02This is Myanmar, this is Bangladesh.
1:59:03Oh, the border?
1:59:05Oh, it's beautiful?
1:59:07Yes, it's beautiful if you want to go.
1:59:09It's up to you.
1:59:12I want to go to the border. I want to film.
1:59:13No, no, no.
1:59:14Huh?
1:59:15No!
1:59:15You can't go to the border?
1:59:17No, no, no, no. You can't have a camera there.
1:59:17Oh, cameras aren't allowed at the border?
1:59:19Ohh.
1:59:21Maybe they don't have any other entertainment, you know.
1:59:23I feel sorry for them.
1:59:26There's nothing else.
1:59:27In Cox's Bazar,
1:59:28what's the most beautiful place?
1:59:30Oh, in Cox's Bazar, it's Inani.
1:59:33Huh?
1:59:34Cox's Bazar, Inani Beach.
1:59:36It's beautiful. You can do interviews there.
1:59:38You can't go?
1:59:39I... can't.
1:59:44It's okay, I'll go to Cox's Bazar.
1:59:46Tell him.
1:59:48Take me to the beach in Cox's Bazar,
1:59:50to the most beautiful spot.
1:59:51[Young man explains to the driver]
1:59:59Okay, no problem. Let's go.
2:00:01Okay, no problem.
2:00:01He said he can do it.
2:00:03There's a lot over there.
2:00:04Okay, okay, okay.
2:00:06Okay. Hey, money. Money.
2:00:08I'm giving you a gift, okay. Don't refuse it.
2:00:13I'm not only a gangster in Malaysia, you know.
2:00:15Even among the Rohingya, I'm the boss.
2:00:19That's a lot.
2:00:25Thank you. Thank you.
2:00:30Okay. Okay.
2:00:32Okay, okay.
2:00:34Hey, don't give my number to anyone else, okay.
2:00:36Okay.
2:00:37Alhamdulillah.
2:00:38Okay, guys.
2:00:39Do you guys know what my strategy is now?
2:00:41We're going to Cox's Bazar,
2:00:43the wealthiest area.
2:00:44We'll interview them about the Rohingya.
2:00:47Understand?
2:00:48After going into a place like the one earlier,
2:00:49yeah.
2:00:50we'll go into the more luxurious areas.
2:00:52What do they think about the Rohingya?
2:00:54Bangladesh allowed the Rohingya into this camp.
2:00:57What do they think about it?
2:00:58Because we need to know.
2:00:59Malaysians don't like
2:01:00Rohingya people, judging by
2:01:02all the comments I've seen.
2:01:03Okay, what's your opinion about the Rohingya?
2:01:05This Rohingya area,
2:01:06what conclusion did you come to?
2:01:08Okay. I feel like they're
2:01:11a group of people who are just drifting helplessly.
2:01:13Drifting helplessly?
2:01:14Drifting helplessly. Meaning...
2:01:15They don't know what to do.
2:01:16They don't know what to do.
2:01:17One side pushes them there, the other pushes them back here.
2:01:19So they're just left drifting helplessly.
2:01:21There's no one to help them.
2:01:22Whether it's their education,
2:01:25Yes.
2:01:26or their development.
2:01:28Understand? You can see it, right?
2:01:30Yeah, I see the same thing.
2:01:33They don't have...
2:01:34anyone educating them
2:01:36about... Okay, when it comes to rubbish,
2:01:39maybe there isn't even a system
2:01:41for waste collection.
2:01:42Like the little kids we saw earlier, right?
2:01:44I saw kids around 4, 5 years old
2:01:46with no shirts on, playing in the dirt and everything.
2:01:47So, from a young age,
2:01:48they don't know that those things are dirty.
2:01:50Yeah, yes.
2:01:51So even when they grow up,
2:01:52they see all this rubbish as normal.
2:01:54"Oh, this is normal, right? It's normal."
2:01:56Yeah, like that.
2:01:57That's dangerous.
2:01:58When we look into the underlying causes,
2:02:01if we didn't have a good system either,
2:02:03we'd be the same.
2:02:04We'd be the same.
2:02:05If a country doesn't have laws.
2:02:07No, no, if there are no programs.
2:02:10No programs.
2:02:12No recycling.
2:02:13I still remember, 20 years ago.
2:02:15Well, not 20 years ago.
2:02:17About 15 years ago, Malaysia...
2:02:19We didn't have those 3 separate bins yet.
2:02:21A bin just for glass, one for this,
2:02:24back then all rubbish went into 1 bin.
2:02:26But look now, people have been educated.
2:02:28Why?
2:02:29Because our government put in the effort.
2:02:31True.
2:02:32They invested money.
2:02:33They invested money in educating people.
2:02:37Civilization doesn't happen in a day.
2:02:39It happens over 5, 10 years.
2:02:41But the question is...
2:02:42The Rohingya people here in Bangladesh.
2:02:45Is it the Bangladeshis who should educate them?
2:02:47Or do they themselves have to...
2:02:49learn those things?
2:02:51It makes us wonder, who...
2:02:54is responsible for educating them now?
2:02:56Because they're living in Bangladesh.
2:02:58That's why I said they're drifting helplessly.
2:03:00It's like they really don't want
2:03:02them in Bangladesh. Whether they like it or not,
2:03:05they accepted them, but just leave them like that.
2:03:08But they do help them a little.
2:03:10But to help them too much...
2:03:11I'd rather help my own citizens.
2:03:13Their own citizens.
2:03:14But I've already given you a place...
2:03:15It's a problem with the global system.
2:03:17This is a problem with the global system.
2:03:21There's no...
2:03:22But the UN is already here, right?
2:03:24The UNHCR is officially here, right?
2:03:28They're the ones who should do it.
2:03:29They're responsible.
2:03:30Yeah, they're responsible, right?
2:03:32Yeah, they're responsible.
2:03:32They're the ones who set everything up, right?
2:04:15Okay, I'm getting out. I'm getting out.
2:04:19You want to get out?
2:04:19Yeah, yes. Yes.
2:04:21Yes, you're at a beautiful place.
2:04:22Okay. Okay. I'm going. I'm going.
2:04:24Yeah. I'm going.
2:04:34Whoa, these waves are pretty big!
2:04:37Don't forget to bring the drone.
2:04:38Oh, is this it, bro?
2:04:39What's this?
2:04:40The...
2:04:42What is it?
2:04:44Pani puri? Isn't it?
2:04:45The Indian thing.
2:04:46Yeah, this is it. You eat it with that, that.
2:04:48Oh, really?
2:04:49I want one.
2:04:52This is what I've seen in India.
2:04:53This is the thing that's going to give you a stomach ache.
2:04:55Yeah.
2:04:55Yeah, this is it.
2:04:58Okay. Hahahaha!
2:05:02Here, bro. Galui.
2:05:05Wow!
2:05:06At this beautiful beach.
2:05:09How do you eat it? Like this?
2:05:12Bismillahirrahmanirrahim.
2:05:16Okay, I can't get it in.
2:05:18Eh, okay.
2:05:20Okay?
2:05:22It doesn't taste strange.
2:05:23Yeah. Yeah.
2:05:24It tastes like those spices, right?
2:05:26Yeah, it's okay.
2:05:27Spices.
2:05:29iPhone 17 Pro Max. Do you want to hold it?
2:05:33Yeah.
2:05:43Wow! I'll take your picture. Your picture, okay.
2:05:50Very good.
2:05:52Very good?
2:05:53It's okay. Not bad, right?
2:05:55He's good at it. Yeah.
2:05:591, 2, 3.
2:06:03Whoa! Automatic!
2:06:07Whoa! Hey, crazy, crazy!
2:06:11Oh, he's using panorama.
2:06:14Okay, he's taking pictures.
2:06:39Whoa, whoa, whoa!
2:06:42Whoa! This is awesome, bro!
2:06:44Whoa!
2:06:47Whoa!
2:06:49Whoa, amazing!
2:06:51Hey, you've got talent.
2:06:53Hey, awesome!
2:06:54This is awesome. This is awesome. This is the real deal.
2:06:57One, one for me, for me.
2:07:16Look at what he's doing.
2:07:18That's fast. Oh, he even knows how to play with the colors, boss.
2:07:27That's such a cute pose.
2:07:35It's like a drone, you know.
2:07:36Hahahaha!
2:07:37Like FPV.
2:07:39Is he doing slow motion?
2:07:40So creative.
2:07:41Want a job?
2:07:42Hahahaha!
2:07:43Do a JJ. Slow motion.
2:07:44Thank you.
2:07:45Hey, give him 20.
2:07:47For this one, ask me.
2:07:50Here. See this?
2:07:53These people can be called dirty.
2:07:56Why? Because they've been provided with a system.
2:08:00But they don't follow it.
2:08:01They've had enough exposure.
2:08:03The Bangladeshi government, right?
2:08:05Yeah, this is something that really needs to change.
2:08:07But if you put everyone in 1 place...
2:08:10With no resources at all,
2:08:13how?
2:08:14What do you expect?
2:08:15Whoa!
2:08:18That's dangerous. That ball is hard.
2:08:27Whoa!
2:08:31I want to watch first.
2:08:35Whoa. He's got skills.
2:08:38Oh, he's got skills.
2:08:40Back during the lockdown,
2:08:42I didn't know what to do, so I ended up playing cricket.
2:08:44You played cricket?
2:08:44Yeah.
2:08:46Crazy.
2:08:50Whoa!
2:08:51There are so many people on this beach.
2:08:54Oh, beautiful. Hahahaha!
2:08:56Now this is more like it.
2:08:58Now this is a real sunset.
2:08:59Now this is a real sunset.
2:09:00It's like the sunset in Sabah.
2:09:02Whoa! Look at that ATV, they're not riding it with just 2 people.
2:09:05There are 6 of them on it!
2:09:071, 2, 3, 4, 5!
2:09:095 people! Gangsters!
2:09:13Whoa!
2:09:15Hello, English.
2:09:18English?
2:09:20How much? How much?
2:09:21500, 1000.
2:09:22500.
2:09:243, 2, okay?
2:09:26Okay, okay, I know.
2:09:29Hey, why did you do that? Why did you...
2:09:37Why is this guy coming along too?
2:09:38Exactly.
2:09:40Enough, enough, enough, enough, enough.
2:09:42Be patient, I want to do an interview.
2:09:43I want to do an interview.
2:09:46Stop, stop, stop!
2:09:49Stop.
2:09:55Stop. Stop.
2:10:00Huh?
2:10:01Because I want to interview people.
2:10:05We're from Malaysia.
2:10:07Okay, so now.
2:10:09My plan in coming to this beach
2:10:11is to ask local Bangladeshis.
2:10:14These are local Bangladeshis.
2:10:16Their opinion about...
2:10:19their government accepting the Rohingya as refugees.
2:10:25Brother, can you speak English?
2:10:27Yes?
2:10:28Can you speak English?
2:10:29Yes, of course.
2:10:30I want to ask you about
2:10:31your opinion on the Rohingya refugee camps.
2:10:35Actually, I can't
2:10:37give you any current information
2:10:38about that.
2:10:38Because we honestly don't know.
2:10:40What's happening there.
2:10:41Because we're from outside that area.
2:10:43We live in Dhaka city.
2:10:45So that's why we don't know
2:10:46what's happening in the Rohingya camps.
2:10:48Oh, you're from Dhaka? Okay.
2:10:50I just came from Dhaka today.
2:10:52Okay, okay.
2:10:54Okay, for you.
2:10:55Your government accepted the Rohingya people.
2:10:57Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
2:10:59I think it's a good thing.
2:11:02For a small number of them,
2:11:03but not such a huge number of people.
2:11:05Because now, if you look...
2:11:07There are actually a lot of people
2:11:08campaigning about this in our country.
2:11:10So, it's a big issue.
2:11:11But if the number is around 1 or 2 million,
2:11:15now it may be more than 2 million.
2:11:18So, that's actually too many.
2:11:20At first, it was a very good thing,
2:11:23but now it has become a major issue for us.
2:11:27Yeah... Now it has started
2:11:29to become a bad thing.
2:11:31It was good before, but now it's increasingly becoming a bad thing.
2:11:34Okay, okay.
2:11:35Bad in what way?
2:11:36If you look...
2:11:38They actually come to our cities.
2:11:40And they claim that...
2:11:41they are our citizens.
2:11:43So that's why it has become a big issue.
2:11:45Ohh!
2:11:46They make fake identity cards.
2:11:47They make fake national ID cards.
2:11:49Passports, and then they go overseas
2:11:52using our identity, actually.
2:11:54So, basically, they create fake identities
2:11:57to obtain citizenship in our country.
2:12:01Thank you, thank you.
2:12:02That's the best.
2:12:03I mean, that's the best answer
2:12:05I've gotten so far today.
2:12:07Because a few hours ago,
2:12:09I went to the refugee camp.
2:12:10I went inside the refugee camp.
2:12:13And they told me that...
2:12:16their father tried to get
2:12:19a Bangladeshi passport
2:12:20and go to another country like that.
2:12:23So, you've just
2:12:25confirmed that again.
2:12:26It's the same thing for me.
2:12:29Like my brother said,
2:12:31a lot of Rohingya people claim
2:12:32that they're citizens of our country now.
2:12:35So, this should be resolved as soon as possible.
2:12:39Aha! So their problem now...
2:12:43the problem Bangladeshis have
2:12:44is that Rohingya people
2:12:46are claiming that they
2:12:47are Bangladeshi citizens.
2:12:49And then they leave the country.
2:12:51All using Bangladeshi passports.
2:12:52Oh, okay. Thank you, brother.
2:12:54Thank you, thank you.
2:12:56Thank you.
2:12:58You know what the funniest part was?
2:13:01He was arguing with someone.
2:13:02He was about to slap him, you know.
2:13:03I saw his hand already like this, you know.
2:13:05Hahahaha!
2:13:05Then I went in, went in...
2:13:11He was like this, you know.
2:13:12[Angry]
2:13:13"Yeah, yes? Oh, actually..."
2:13:16Hahahaha!
2:13:17That's what true professionalism means.
2:13:20He was just about to slap him.
2:13:21The thing is, the guy immediately ran away.
2:13:22He said, "Beautiful."
2:13:26Hahahaha!
2:13:29Suddenly, hey,
2:13:30oh, there are a lot of tourists here.
2:13:41Okay, guys.
2:13:42Huh?
2:13:43So!
2:13:44What's the story today?
2:13:46So here's the story...
2:13:47The conclusion!
2:13:48Before we started this documentary...
2:13:51There were 2 major questions.
2:13:53That we wanted answered...
2:13:54Through this investigation, documentary,
2:13:57or whatever you want to call it. Call it whatever you want.
2:14:00From this entire process.
2:14:01There are 2 main questions. Number 1.
2:14:04Where did this originate from?
2:14:05Where did the Rohingya come from?
2:14:07What caused so many of them to end up in Malaysia?
2:14:10Number 2, how do we prevent it?
2:14:13Prevent this from happening.
2:14:15From continuing to happen in Malaysia.
2:14:16And from having a negative impact on Malaysia.
2:14:19From them multiplying?
2:14:20From them multiplying.
2:14:22Before it gets worse after this.
2:14:25So, does anyone not have an answer to that?
2:14:26I have my answer.
2:14:27You guys?
2:14:29Okay, you?
2:14:30I think it's because they come here, right?
2:14:33A better life.
2:14:34A better life. Agreed.
2:14:36For me, it's because the route is easier.
2:14:38An easier route. Agreed, that's right.
2:14:41Like Mr. Koroy said.
2:14:45He said higher wages.
2:14:46Want higher wages?
2:14:47Why choose Malaysia?
2:14:48Why not go to the UK?
2:14:50Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
2:14:52We already asked that earlier.
2:14:53He said it's easier to come here.
2:14:54The UK is far away, you'd have to take a boat there.
2:14:57So, going to Malaysia is easier.
2:14:58Do you have an opinion or an income?
2:15:00Me?
2:15:01Yeah.
2:15:02That's my opinion. Zul already mentioned it earlier.
2:15:03Not the easier route. Because of money.
2:15:06Because there's more money.
2:15:07Because there's more money.
2:15:08And there's 1 more reason.
2:15:10Because many of their families are already there.
2:15:12There's already a large community.
2:15:13So, why go to the US? Everything is difficult.
2:15:16To get in touch with people.
2:15:17There are many in our country.
2:15:19So, you just contact them.
2:15:21"Bro, where are you?" And there you go.
2:15:22"Selayang."
2:15:23Go to Selayang.
2:15:24Yeah. Right, right, right, right.
2:15:26If you want to go to the US, you have to find a new place.
2:15:28This place, that place.
2:15:29Yeah, it becomes a huge hassle. Yeah.
2:15:31Right.
2:15:32Because I once...
2:15:34I was heading home from the office.
2:15:36At that time, I booked a Grab.
2:15:37The Grab uncle himself told me,
2:15:38there was this Rohingya man who got into his Grab.
2:15:42But his friend booked it for him.
2:15:43Throughout the Grab ride, he just stayed quiet
2:15:45until they reached the place where his friend was.
2:15:47Then, when they arrived at his friend's place...
2:15:49the Chinese uncle who was driving the Grab asked,
2:15:51"Hey, why is your friend so quiet?"
2:15:52"Oh, he just arrived in Malaysia."
2:15:54He came from Thailand or somewhere, he said.
2:15:56Oh, really?
2:15:57"Yeah, he has nothing. No money, nothing.
2:15:59That's why he came here."
2:16:00Oh...
2:16:02He came because his friend was there?
2:16:03Because he had a friend there.
2:16:04Yeah, what Awie said is right.
2:16:08As for me...
2:16:10I agree with everyone.
2:16:11With what you guys said earlier.
2:16:12And I want to add...
2:16:14Especially the part at the top.
2:16:16The top part, right?
2:16:17Top. Top.
2:16:18I mean, when I arrived at Cox's Bazar.
2:16:20I tried to think.
2:16:22Looking at everyone's answers, right?
2:16:24I saw them there.
2:16:26That area already has a system.
2:16:29Economic infrastructure?
2:16:31An environment for people to live in.
2:16:33For people to live in, it's already there.
2:16:35It's just that they're kind of...
2:16:38What's the analogy people usually use?
2:16:40From the top of a hill,
2:16:42if we look down the hill...
2:16:43we'll see that the grass at the bottom looks beautiful.
2:16:46From the bottom of the hill,
2:16:47when you look up the hill,
2:16:48the grass at the top looks even more beautiful.
2:16:51Do you get it? Do you get it?
2:16:52Actually, both places are the same.
2:16:53Patchy.
2:16:54But when you look from afar, it looks beautiful.
2:16:56So, from here, they see,
2:16:57"Oh, Malaysia..."
2:17:00"Malaysia is an amazing place."
2:17:03Because they're here.
2:17:04Even their shopping malls don't have proper flooring.
2:17:06Do you get it?
2:17:07Their shopping mall,
2:17:07even the gold shops don't have floors, they're on sand.
2:17:09So, they see their friends
2:17:11going to KLCC for Eid.
2:17:13Uploading all their photos.
2:17:14"Oh, that place is really nice."
2:17:16When they get there...
2:17:18it's actually the same for them.
2:17:19It's 2 × 5 for them.
2:17:20For us, well,
2:17:21thank God our country is developed.
2:17:23Our country has culture and so on.
2:17:26But for them, they suffer there too.
2:17:28And here too... do you understand?
2:17:30It's better to be grateful
2:17:31and live in the environment you already have.
2:17:33No one is going to bother them here.
2:17:35Yeah, no one. They don't need to be afraid...
2:17:37afraid of immigration or anything.
2:17:39Yeah! Number 2.
2:17:41How do we prevent this
2:17:43in the future?
2:17:44From all the people you guys
2:17:45went and interviewed, right?
2:17:46What do you think?
2:17:48How do we prevent it?
2:17:49I think, in terms of prevention...
2:17:53Because Myanmar
2:17:54doesn't accept them anymore either. Right?
2:17:56Then, if they want to go to Bangladesh,
2:17:58Bangladesh doesn't fully accept them either
2:18:00and so on.
2:18:00So, I think we need to use...
2:18:03A diplomatic approach.
2:18:05What do you mean by diplomacy?
2:18:07Provide education facilities and all that?
2:18:09Diplomatic, sorry, diplomatic.
2:18:10What kind of diplomatic approach?
2:18:10Diplomacy. I mean, maybe...
2:18:14Our leadership has to...
2:18:17go and... discuss this with...
2:18:20Negotiate, negotiate?
2:18:21Negotiate, negotiate with Myanmar.
2:18:22With the Myanmar government.
2:18:23Because I think that's the only way. That's the only way.
2:18:24Because there's nothing else. Who else is there?
2:18:27Myanmar doesn't have a government.
2:18:28The military has taken over.
2:18:29No. I mean, whoever is in charge of the leadership,
2:18:33negotiate with them.
2:18:36Negotiate with their leaders.
2:18:38How can we solve this issue?
2:18:41Because I think that's the only way...
2:18:42Because this world has laws.
2:18:44International law, right?
2:18:45If soldiers just do whatever they want,
2:18:47commit atrocities and all that, right?
2:18:49So, what he's saying makes sense.
2:18:53Yeah, so the soldiers can...
2:18:54For me, I don't agree
2:18:56with putting them on an island.
2:18:58How long can that island solution last?
2:18:59Eventually, it'll become the same problem again.
2:19:01Because the longer it goes on, the more people there will be. More and more.
2:19:03Right.
2:19:04The number of people doesn't decrease. It keeps increasing.
2:19:05First, think about what you just said.
2:19:08We send them back to Myanmar.
2:19:10Myanmar, I don't really agree with that.
2:19:12Because Myanmar right now
2:19:13is being led by the military.
2:19:16And the military is fighting civilians.
2:19:20So, if you send them there...
2:19:23what are they going to use them for?
2:19:24That's why there needs to be negotiation.
2:19:25To further promote atrocities.
2:19:29That's why we need to discuss it with them.
2:19:31How are you going to discuss it?
2:19:32If they don't even follow international organizations...
2:19:35UN rules and international rules?
2:19:37They don't follow them.
2:19:38They behead people.
2:19:39If you send them there...
2:19:41Wouldn't that mean you're...
2:19:43It looks to me like you're
2:19:44promoting atrocities.
2:19:45Not because you're sending them back.
2:19:46No, no, no...
2:19:48No, uh...
2:19:49We have to meet with their leadership.
2:19:52To resolve it.
2:19:53Not resolve it just by sending them back.
2:19:55Okay.
2:19:56What do we do? For example, maybe...
2:19:58Zul, do you understand?
2:20:00That country doesn't have a leader.
2:20:03There's no leader.
2:20:05Who are you going to send them to?
2:20:07There's no leader.
2:20:09The military is fighting civilians.
2:20:11And the civilians...
2:20:13What he means is, the military has a leader, right?
2:20:17There's no leader.
2:20:23Why do you think that is?
2:20:25Why did Bangladesh start disliking them?
2:20:27There are more and more of them, and it's getting...
2:20:28Because at first they thought...
2:20:30"Oh, this conflict between the government and them
2:20:33will be resolved."
2:20:34"Then I'll send them all back."
2:20:36But until today, it still hasn't been resolved.
2:20:37So, there's no leader there.
2:20:39So, how?
2:20:40Who's running the country?
2:20:41No one's running it. It's a war zone,
2:20:43they're at war. A war zone.
2:20:44Everywhere?
2:20:45Who's running the capital?
2:20:46The capital is at war too.
2:20:48Who's running the capital?
2:20:49The military.
2:20:50The military, meaning they
2:20:52in June 2026. June,
2:20:54the military only recently started regaining
2:20:57these major territories.
2:20:58Before June, civilians...
2:21:00Forces, groups,
2:21:021 village group after another.
2:21:03Meaning the military is the dominant side.
2:21:05Are they still dominant now?
2:21:06No, both sides are dominant.
2:21:08Even in the Rohingya's homeland, there are 2 sides.
2:21:11The military is fighting the Arakan Army.
2:21:13The Arakan Army consists of civilians,
2:21:15and both sides discriminate.
2:21:17They violate UN rules.
2:21:19They wage war without following international law.
2:21:23International law says
2:21:24you can't attack civilians.
2:21:25They attack civilians.
2:21:26They force people to enlist.
2:21:27I think ASEAN needs to unite.
2:21:31Maybe ASEAN countries like Malaysia, Singapore, the Philippines,
2:21:35all of them. Send a memorandum to...
2:21:38Hold a meeting at the UN and so on.
2:21:40I agree with this.
2:21:41Apply pressure. Apply pressure.
2:21:42I agree with this. Yeah, right.
2:21:43When there's no pressure,
2:21:45they'll feel like, "I'm in power."
2:21:46Yeah, they'll feel like, "I'm in power." Yeah.
2:21:47Even though there are other countries... Singapore is bigger.
2:21:50Brunei.
2:21:51We have the Philippines, Indonesia.
2:21:53The reason is, it's a poor country.
2:21:56No one cares.
2:21:57There's no personal interest.
2:21:59No one has any interest in it.
2:22:00No oil, nothing.
2:22:02So, they don't want to get involved.
2:22:04What do you guys think?
2:22:05How do we prevent this?
2:22:06I agree with what he said.
2:22:07It's just that before getting to that point,
2:22:10there's a process.
2:22:11If we followed our feelings, we'd just give them a boat back.
2:22:15The same way they came,
2:22:16that's how they should go back.
2:22:17If we followed our feelings.
2:22:19But we have to think...
2:22:20practically.
2:22:21Logically, logically, right?
2:22:22You managed to find your own way here.
2:22:24So find your own way out the same way you came. Right?
2:22:26But because we're Muslims...
2:22:28We're rational human beings,
2:22:30that's why we follow the process.
2:22:31We follow Bangladesh's approach,
2:22:33set up a settlement camp for them.
2:22:35Because we've done it before, bro.
2:22:37We've done it before.
2:22:38Hmm, with the Vietnamese refugees.
2:22:40On Pulau Bidong, Terengganu.
2:22:41We've done this before.
2:22:42But it was resolved, see?
2:22:44Use the same approach.
2:22:46Don't just follow Bangladesh's approach.
2:22:47Use the same approach.
2:22:49Just refer to Bangladesh
2:22:51and see how they do it, their methods and everything.
2:22:53Then, whatever is good, we follow.
2:22:55Whatever isn't good, we change it a bit.
2:22:56Modify it.
2:22:57Then, at the same time...
2:22:58We can't let them stay there for too long, bro.
2:23:01Otherwise, it'll become their permanent place.
2:23:02Meaning there are steps.
2:23:04There are steps, the next steps.
2:23:05That's what you were talking about.
2:23:07Keep applying pressure and all that.
2:23:09That's why we've done this before.
2:23:11We've resolved this kind of case before.
2:23:12Pulau Bidong, Vietnam.
2:23:13You guys should read about it.
2:23:15They even rioted and everything,
2:23:16wanting to leave, wanting to leave.
2:23:17Look at it now, everything's fine. We're fine.
2:23:19Vietnam was resolved. They were sent back.
2:23:20The war in Vietnam ended.
2:23:23But this war never ends.
2:23:25You've been to Pulau Bidong before, right?
2:23:28I once drifted there,
2:23:29then they wouldn't let us onto the island.
2:23:31The military guarded it.
2:23:32Oh!
2:23:33Then, for me,
2:23:36a combination of your idea earlier
2:23:38with Awie's idea earlier.
2:23:40That's the solution.
2:23:42You were talking about pressure.
2:23:45Pressure, and what would that pressure achieve?
2:23:47UNHCR doing its job properly.
2:23:50Right, the result is UNHCR doing its job properly.
2:23:54They provide a budget to Malaysia.
2:23:56To build refugee camps.
2:23:58Proper refugee camps.
2:24:00Yeah, I think that's the solution.
2:24:02The best solution.
2:24:03Because if we ignore this issue...
2:24:07it'll become even worse than Cox's Bazar.
2:24:10At least Cox's Bazar has...
2:24:12limits on where they can go, you know?
2:24:14There's a boundary around them.
2:24:16Malaysia currently doesn't have that boundary.
2:24:18They can go anywhere.
2:24:19Anywhere they want.
2:24:21I'm not saying that ethnic group is evil. No!
2:24:24But what is the impact on Malaysia?
2:24:26Because it's the impact on Malaysia that we want to prevent.
2:24:29Do you understand? The impact on Malaysia.
2:24:31Our country.
2:24:32Our country!
2:24:33Our country.
2:24:34The best way is...
2:24:36if UNHCR does its job properly.
2:24:39Apply the right pressure.
2:24:41Do the job properly.
2:24:42I think this issue can be resolved.
2:24:44But if not...
2:24:46the impact will be even worse than Cox's Bazar.
2:24:49Even worse.
2:24:50Even in Cox's Bazar,
2:24:51they can secretly escape.
2:24:53Even though there are checkpoints and soldiers guarding them.
2:24:55Imagine if Malaysia
2:24:57doesn't even have checkpoints or anyone guarding them.
2:24:59No one guarding the borders or anything.
2:25:00Yeah, yeah.
2:25:01It'll be even crazier. Right?
2:25:03It could become something really bad. Seriously.
2:25:06But my conclusion about the ethnic group is...
2:25:11I don't want to say that the ethnic group is evil or good.
2:25:15There is a good side.
2:25:16There is a bad side.
2:25:18So, that's the conclusion.
2:25:20For this documentary...
2:25:24Man! It's even worse
2:25:25than Timor-Leste. Oh, this documentary
2:25:27almost gave me a headache.
2:25:29It's just finding a solution that's difficult.
2:25:32That's the only thing we couldn't figure out.
2:25:33Yeah!
2:25:34So, finally, we met with UNHCR. This is
2:25:37the problem.
2:25:38If they're doing things properly...
2:25:40then everything would be right.
2:25:41But if they don't, if they also...
2:25:44don't really want to do their job.
2:25:45Yeah, that's what happens.
2:25:47What if there's corruption?
2:25:49Then countries like ours are doomed.
2:25:51Second-world countries.
2:25:52Third-world countries.
2:25:53Like Myanmar.
2:25:54Countries like Bangladesh are all affected.
2:25:57What's considered important? Europe and the West.
2:25:59I swear, this issue really makes me angry.
2:26:01So, God willing, everyone.
2:26:02Awie, one last question for you.
2:26:04How do you feel?
2:26:06Suddenly... you were with me,
2:26:09"Hey, buy a ticket for me."
2:26:10Then suddenly I said, "Okay, let's go."
2:26:13What, what, what was your reaction and... yeah?
2:26:17Honestly, I never thought I'd actually end up here.
2:26:19Hahahaha!
2:26:20I'm already in enemy territory, you know?
2:26:22Hahahaha!
2:26:24Enemy territory?
2:26:25Yeah, I've already entered my enemy's territory.
2:26:27I never imagined it.
2:26:28Yeah.
2:26:29I'm serious, wait.
2:26:30What did you say? Buy a ticket?
2:26:30Yeah, so I bought it.
2:26:32Yeah, so it felt like...
2:26:33Whoa, I was shocked.
2:26:35Shocked, hahaha!
2:26:36At night when you went home, did you think about anything?
2:26:40I did think about it.
2:26:40Yeah.
2:26:41I tried to close my eyes, but I couldn't fall asleep.
2:26:42Hahahaha!
2:26:44Why? Were you shocked?
2:26:46"Wait, is this really happening? The ticket's already been bought."
2:26:49Yeah, whether I wanted to or not, I had to go.
2:26:51Yeah, just go.
2:26:52Okay. How do you feel
2:26:53after joining us on this project?
2:26:55It's okay. Okay. It's good, I fit in.
2:26:58You fit in?
2:27:00How were you treated?
2:27:01How was everything?
2:27:02There was enough food.
2:27:03The food and everything, everything was okay.
2:27:04It was enough. There's only 1 thing I didn't enjoy.
2:27:07You guys don't chew betel leaf.
2:27:08Hahahaha!
2:27:10Alright, guys! So, God willing!
2:27:12See you guys in 3 days!
2:27:14Bye!