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KAMI PERGI KE KAMPUNG ROHINGYA !!

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0:00HEYYO, WHAT'S UP! WHAT'S UP!

0:01IT'S YOUR BOY, ISA ISARB!

0:01ALRIGHT!

0:03So today, I want to show you guys.

0:06Who exactly are the Rohingya?

0:22So this isn't really an educational video.

0:25This is what I want to find out.

0:27Because I'm really upset.

0:28When I see all those short videos on TikTok.

0:30On Threads, they fight back,

0:32they dirty the parks.

0:35They take over an area.

0:37It made me think...

0:39"Isa, right now, you need to do 1 study."

0:43Where did they actually come from?

0:45Who are they?

0:46And what is the solution to reduce

0:49their impact on this country?

0:52You get it? For example.

0:54We find out, okay.

0:55Maybe the way they're spreading

0:56is by entering through Penang,

1:00or entering through Johor.

1:02So from there, we'll know, okay.

1:05The solution is to stop them

1:07from entering through this area. Just an example.

1:10Because I don't know either.

1:11What exactly am I trying to find out?

1:13What I know, just like you guys,

1:14is the same as what you know,

1:15just the basics.

1:16But now, my team and I

1:19are going to conduct a comprehensive study.

1:21We're going all out. If we need to go to Myanmar,

1:24we'll go to Myanmar.

1:25If we need to go to Bangladesh,

1:27we'll go to Bangladesh.

1:28It doesn't matter,

1:28as long as we can find out the root cause

1:31and where all of this started.

1:33Alright? So, let's discuss it.

1:35Argh!

1:40Alright.

1:40So first of all, Zul,

1:42let's find out who they are first.

1:45Who are they?

1:51This is what's available on the internet.

1:53I'll first show you what's available online.

1:56What's on social media?

1:59The basic facts.

2:00After that, we'll do

2:01a more in-depth investigation,

2:03where we'll conduct the interviews ourselves.

2:05We'll go there ourselves.

2:06And see.

2:07Yeah, we'll go and see those areas ourselves.

2:10So according to what's on the internet,

2:12the Rohingya are originally from Myanmar.

2:16From 1 place called Arakan.

2:18Okay, Arakan. Then,

2:20the people of Myanmar.

2:22When they gained independence,

2:25let's use Malaysia as an example.

2:26We gained independence. Then,

2:28suddenly all the Malays say,

2:30"Hey, Chinese, you're not a citizen here."

2:32"You have to leave," and the government supports it too.

2:34So Chinese people can't get an ID card.

2:36Yeah, that's the analogy,

2:37that's the analogy.

2:38So the Rohingya are a different ethnic group

2:43in Myanmar.

2:44So, the Rohingya.

2:45So the Rohingya

2:47are a different ethnic group in Myanmar.

2:49But the people of Myanmar don't accept

2:51that you're a group of people

2:53who have always been in Myanmar.

2:55They say you actually came from another country.

2:57The people of Myanmar say that they

2:59came from Bengal.

3:01Because Myanmar and India

3:02were colonized by the same European power,

3:07the British.

3:08So the people of Myanmar say,

3:09"You guys are actually Bengali."

3:11"You came from Bengal."

3:12"So now that we've gained independence,

3:14you can leave and go back."

3:15But India doesn't want to accept them either.

3:17Myanmar doesn't want to accept them either.

3:19And they've constantly had conflicts.

3:22Conflict, conflict, conflict, conflict, conflict,

3:24until 2017.

3:26There was this Rohingya armed group,

3:28and they attacked Myanmar.

3:30They attacked Myanmar, something...

3:32A major conflict broke out.

3:36Then the Myanmar military

3:37responded, boom!

3:39And the Myanmar side, yeah,

3:41used their military too.

3:43So that's what caused

3:44all these Rohingya people to flee everywhere,

3:48in every direction, and most

3:50Rohingya are now in Bangladesh.

3:53Why?

3:54Because Bangladesh is next to Myanmar.

3:56Oh, so it's like a center.

3:58Yes, a refugee center.

4:00Yeah, a refugee camp.

4:01So there are several places,

4:02like Cox's Bazar.

4:04then they were sent away.

4:06And then there's Myanmar.

4:07It's extremely dangerous there right now.

4:10There's a really serious conflict going on.

4:12They cut people up, behead them and everything.

4:15Yeah, that I don't know.

4:16Okay, let's put the Rohingya issue aside for now.

4:19Let's put that aside first.

4:20The Rohingya are in Myanmar, right?

4:21What happened in Myanmar in 2021

4:24made things even worse for the Rohingya.

4:28So in 2021, imagine the head of Malaysia's military,

4:32Malaysia's Defense Minister,

4:33being unhappy with Anwar Ibrahim.

4:35For example, Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim,

4:37he's unhappy with the government.

4:39What does he do?

4:41He arrests the Prime Minister.

4:43He seizes power.

4:45You get it? The military seizes power.

4:48Yeah, that's the analogy.

4:50But that's what happened there.

4:51The military seized power.

4:53When the military seized control of the government,

4:56there were many groups on the ground,

4:59PEKIDA groups,

5:01local brotherhood groups,

5:04groups that aren't just gangsters,

5:06groups... what do you call them?

5:08Neighborhood groups.

5:11That's the analogy.

5:13But there are smaller groups

5:15in Myanmar that actually have pistols,

5:18they have rifles,

5:18they have everything.

5:20So when the government was overthrown,

5:22and it was a government they supported,

5:25which the military forcibly took over,

5:28they arrested all the politicians. Everyone was arrested.

5:30They seized the government.

5:31He became the Prime Minister.

5:33So the groups

5:34supporting the government, like PEKIDA,

5:36groups from the Klang area,

5:38Selangor groups,

5:40JMF groups from Johor,

5:42all of them started fighting the government military.

5:46The new government military that seized power.

5:50The ones who seized power.

5:51...

5:51Pap, pap, pap, pap, pap, pap.

5:52So when it comes to the Rohingya,

5:54who's fighting whom now?

5:57First, the government military.

5:59The government military and the Rohingya.

6:01Now in the Rohingya area,

6:02there's also the Arakan group.

6:04What is the Arakan Army?

6:05They're like PEKIDA groups,

6:06local groups,

6:07local armed groups,

6:10made up of civilians,

6:11a civilian army.

6:12They're currently fighting the government.

6:14So what happens to the Rohingya?

6:16The Rohingya are stuck in the middle.

6:17Both sides are in their area.

6:22For example, in an area where the military is strong

6:24and controls the territory,

6:25they force the Rohingya to become soldiers.

6:28So the Rohingya are like cattle?

6:29Yeah, like cattle. They're forced to become soldiers.

6:31Soldiers... government soldiers.

6:33Then on the other side,

6:34the PEKIDA-like groups I mentioned earlier,

6:37the civilian groups do the same thing.

6:40They force Rohingya people to join their forces,

6:42to become soldiers for them,

6:44to fight against the government.

6:46So on both sides, the Rohingya

6:47are forcibly recruited.

6:49By force.

6:50So that's why from 2021 onward,

6:55suddenly you see Malaysia flooded

6:57and Bangladesh flooded with Rohingya. That's why,

7:00because their ethnic group is under pressure.

7:02They're not even citizens there.

7:05You get it? Number 1, whether it's the government,

7:08the local bosses there,

7:10or these smaller armed groups,

7:12none of them consider the Rohingya citizens.

7:15Then they're forced to become soldiers

7:16to fight for who, right?

7:18So they flee to Bangladesh.

7:20But now the question is,

7:23if the people in Myanmar

7:24hate them so much,

7:27there must be a reason.

7:29And once we know the reasons I mentioned earlier,

7:31the underlying reasons,

7:32the reasons we can see with our own...

7:34Naked eyes?

7:36Not with our naked eyes.

7:36What we can find on Google,

7:38then why do Malaysians

7:40hate them so much as well?

7:42You guys get it?

7:43That's the answer we need to find.

7:45Because when they first started coming in,

7:47Malaysians were okay with it.

7:49I even saw the government organizing programs,

7:52programs like,

7:53"Good night, Rohingya."

7:55Yeah, good night, Rohingya.

7:59Then suddenly, by 2026,

8:02starting from 2023,

8:05suddenly everyone started disliking the Rohingya.

8:09Because I've seen the same thing before, you know?

8:11With the Palestinians back then,

8:12Palestinians to help them,

8:14where did they put them?

8:15That hospital.

8:16Yeah, that hospital.

8:17Suddenly people started disliking

8:19the Palestinians.

8:20You get it?

8:21There was that period. For 1 week, 2 weeks,

8:23I saw Malaysians talking about it on social media.

8:25So now people dislike the Rohingya.

8:28So the answer we need to find now is,

8:30what made

8:31Malaysians dislike them?

8:33That's the first question we want answered.

8:35Number 1,

8:36why don't Malaysians like them?

8:38Right?

8:40So,

8:41we'll go to areas

8:42where there are many Rohingya.

8:44Okay.

8:45And we'll ask

8:47the people...

8:49Not the Rohingya,

8:50we'll ask the people who live there

8:53why they don't like the Rohingya.

8:55You get it?

8:56Then we'll be able to find the real reason

8:57why they don't like the Rohingya.

9:02Some of them can open shops.

9:05Yeah, that's another thing Malaysians don't like.

9:07How can they open shops?

9:08That, I don't know.

9:10I think they marry Malaysians.

9:11They marry Malaysians?

9:12Yeah, they use their wife's name.

9:15Let's first go to an area with many Rohingya

9:17and interview people.

9:18What are we calling this operation?

9:20Ops! Ops Roro.

9:22Ops Roro?

9:23Ops Roro.

9:24Okay, let's go! Ops Roro!

9:25Ops Roro!

9:26Alright! Let's go to Selayang Market!

10:17Don't get separated from us, okay?

10:19Yeah.

10:27Is it sweet?

10:28Is this longan sweet?

10:30How much is this?

10:31"Warpa." Hahaha!

10:36Do you have tissues?

10:41Do you know Awie MBR?

10:43Do you know Koroy?

10:45He came running over.

10:46"Hey, it's TikTok."

10:48Yeah, I know him.

10:49You know him?

10:50He came the other day too. I didn't meet him.

10:53Where does he usually come around here?

10:55Where does he usually go?

10:56He goes up there in front.

10:58He doesn't come here.

10:59The new market is up ahead.

11:00Over there, where they butcher chickens.

11:02What's that? Chicken butchering?

11:03The people here are Indian.

11:07They're over there.

11:09Yeah, over that side?

11:11Yeah, over there.

11:13Selayang Market?

11:14This is Selayang Market, right?

11:15This whole area is Selayang Market, right?

11:17Yeah.

11:17It's up ahead there.

11:18Yeah, those houses where they sell things.

11:21Oh, isn't this the place?

11:22He doesn't come here.

11:27Hahahaha!

11:29How do we get to the back, bro?

11:33Go through here, straight to the end.

11:37Yeah, okay, okay, okay.

11:51Whoa, nice.

11:53There's a lot of garlic.

11:56Are these bean sprouts?

11:58Oh, no wonder people come here.

12:00Okay.

12:01All the restaurants must

12:02buy their supplies here.

12:04This is wholesale.

12:04Because it's wholesale, yeah.

12:06For traders, food vendors and so on?

12:08But I want to interview someone.

12:11But they're afraid to meet people.

12:13Yeah. Because Awie already came and shook things up.

12:15They're scared.

12:16Look, even when we walked past earlier, they...

12:17Look at that.

12:18They're all watching now,

12:19with their cameras ready.

12:20Hahahaha!

12:21Hahahaha!

12:22Oh, no wonder everyone...

12:23When you entered from the front,

12:25they'd already called the people at the back.

12:26Oh, really?

12:27Hahahaha!

12:28Seriously?

12:29Oh, they tell each other immediately.

12:32So the people at the front already informed them?

12:34Yeah, from the front. The moment you left the parking lot,

12:37the message had already reached the back.

12:39Oh, it already reached them.

12:40There's TikTok, there's TikTok.

12:41There's TikTok, there's TikTok. Hahahaha!

12:45The news already traveled from the front to the back.

12:48Oh, these guys are something else.

12:49Hahahaha!

12:51You should eat here, bro.

12:57How much?

12:57RM2.

12:59Why is there milk?

13:02I don't want milk.

13:04You don't want milk?

13:08Just plain bread.

13:12As a supplier,

13:13what is the situation usually like around here?

13:15Before COVID, it was okay?

13:16Great?

13:17It was great before COVID.

13:18What's not okay now?

13:20These Myanmar people have taken over.

13:22The Myanmar people have taken over?

13:24Ohh...

13:28They're all inside the market.

13:31They really have taken over.

13:33They've already said it.

13:34Huh?

13:34"Malaysians

13:35can't enter the market."

13:36Oh, they said that?

13:37Yeah!

13:39"Malaysians can't come in."

13:40"Malaysians, don't interfere with our place."

13:43Which market? That regional market?

13:45The market inside, the one with the toll gate.

13:47The big market, yeah, inside there.

13:49There are no locals at all?

13:51There are some, but not many.

13:54Yeah. Are they Myanmar or Rohingya?

13:56There are Rohingya and Myanmar people.

13:58I just found out earlier from 1 Indian uncle.

14:02He told me that

14:04people here think they're all Rohingya,

14:07but they're actually not all Rohingya.

14:14There aren't any Rohingya.

14:14They're Myanmar people.

14:16Myanmar, Bugis, Burmese, Indian.

14:19Yeah.

14:21Yeah, Myanmar.

14:25There are more Myanmar people here than Rohingya.

14:28There are only a few Rohingya.

14:31They gather here.

14:32All of them?

14:34If things go a little too far,

14:35they're the type to do things behind your back,

14:37not to your face.

14:39What do you mean, behind your back?

14:40Yeah, if they're unhappy with us,

14:42Huh?

14:42they do things behind our backs.

14:45Not face-to-face.

14:46Whoa!

14:47That's why I said this place is dangerous.

14:49I swear.

14:51If people call Klang "Mexico,"

14:53do you know what this place is called?

14:56This is America.

14:57America? Brazil!

14:58Hahahaha! This is Brazil.

15:00Just 2 or 3 days ago,

15:02a Chinese guy got attacked from behind.

15:03Right here, with 2 metal objects like this.

15:06Just 2 or 3 days ago?

15:07A Chinese guy got attacked?

15:08By whom? Myanmar people?

15:09Myanmar.

15:10They're the type to attack from behind.

15:12They don't dare do it face-to-face.

15:13Yeah, they do it from behind.

15:15It happened to me before COVID.

15:17I got 18 stitches here.

15:18Why?

15:19They came from behind too. They weren't happy with me.

15:21Hahahaha!

15:2218 stitches here.

15:23Who did it?

15:24Myanmar people. Myanmar again.

15:26Whoa, that's seriously dangerous.

15:28This metropolitan area we're sitting in

15:33right now is quite dangerous.

15:35Yeah, this is a red zone.

15:37Did they attack you as a group?

15:39With a knife. They stabbed me.

15:41What did you do?

15:42There was nothing I could do.

15:43I just went to the hospital.

15:45How did the fight start?

15:46We just bumped into them a little.

15:49The pushcart hit them slightly.

15:51Just a little, and they got upset.

15:55He took out a knife?

15:56He took out a knife...

15:59Your leg?

16:01Did you report it to the police?

16:02Yes, I did.

16:03Didn't you have anyone backing you up?

16:04No bodyguards? Nothing?

16:08We have a lot of connections in this market too.

16:11I'm an old-timer. Hahahaha!

16:13Yeah.

16:13I've been in this market for 30 years.

16:15In this market?

16:1630 years.

16:17You're an old-timer.

16:19Is he there?

16:23Before COVID, right?

16:24Before COVID.

16:24But they're really crazy, aren't they?

16:27But they don't dare do it face-to-face.

16:30Why would they do that? Just relax.

16:38Yeah, we're recording.

16:39Hahahaha!

16:42The recording got wet.

16:43Hahahaha!

16:45When they came in 2011, they even brought what?

16:49Their buffaloes and cows,

16:50they tied them up in front of the bank

16:51before sacrificing them.

16:53Can they get married here?

16:54They put up tents here and hold weddings.

16:57Yes, I'm telling you honestly, I swear.

16:59Here?

17:01I've been working here for 15 years.

17:03It's the same. Nothing has changed.

17:04DBKL hasn't done anything.

17:06Nothing has changed.

17:07They shut them down,

17:08then they can just reopen.

17:10They can pay.

17:11They use Alibaba licenses.

17:13Alibaba licenses.

17:14Alibaba licenses.

17:15Their workers,

17:17yeah, their workers might be Rohingya,

17:19but the owner is Malay,

17:21Chinese or Indian.

17:22A local.

17:23Yeah! The owner is a local.

17:26Right.

17:26I understand, I understand.

17:27I'm just telling you.

17:29If you want to do something about it, go ahead.

17:33At least get the Member of Parliament to come down here.

17:35Yeah, then it would be right.

17:36Get the Member of Parliament and the minister to come down.

17:40Yeah.

17:41Come down here.

17:42Monitor it themselves.

17:44See what's happening.

17:45Why don't they want to do it?

17:47That's the question.

17:48Why don't they want to do it?

17:49Hahahaha!

17:50If you've been saying this for 15 years, why?

17:52Money, money.

17:53Money?

17:54It's not just since the Pakatan Harapan era.

17:56It was the same during the Barisan Nasional era.

17:59It's been like that for a long time.

18:02I've been here for 30 years myself.

18:05During which period was it?

18:07During COVID, they stopped

18:10foreign workers from going inside.

18:13So all those foreign workers

18:15started working outside here,

18:16which made things worse.

18:17So the workers

18:18started working for local businesses.

18:22The building owners raised the prices.

18:23They can afford it.

18:25They can pay RM15,000 in rent

18:27or RM10,000 a month.

18:28They can afford it.

18:29They can pay.

18:30They can pay?

18:31Because who are their customers?

18:33Their customers are major hotels.

18:35Oh!

18:37All the major hotels.

18:38I see. Because they're wholesalers.

18:41Oh, so they don't rely on walk-in customers.

18:44They already have regular customers.

18:45Customers that are practically guaranteed.

18:48Yeah.

18:49So they come here to get supplies,

18:51then deliver them to different hotels.

18:53JW Marriott or hotels in KL,

18:55and places like that.

18:56The big hotels.

18:57I understand, I understand, I understand, I understand.

18:58They supply them.

19:00Whether it's local chilies or whatever.

19:02Big restaurants too,

19:04they all get their supplies here.

19:06Sometimes those outside,

19:07the ones inside the wholesale market,

19:09bring their goods

19:10and open up here.

19:11Open up here?

19:12They claim their goods aren't selling.

19:14But actually, outside here,

19:16they have another shop too.

19:18I'm just telling you.

19:19What's their modus operandi?

19:21What happens inside again?

19:22When the goods don't sell, what happens?

19:23They bring the goods outside

19:24and sell them outside.

19:25Yeah.

19:27Because even to enter the market,

19:28you have to pay for parking.

19:30Right.

19:31Okay, this is 1 new thing

19:32we learned today.

19:33Because I interviewed several people earlier.

19:35They're trying to deceive people.

19:36If it doesn't sell inside, fine.

19:38Don't, don't, don't try to lie.

19:40Don't lie.

19:41They tell MCA,

19:43"Today's sales are bad, there's nothing."

19:45Then they'll bring out

19:47the goods that supposedly didn't sell.

19:49They'll split some of it here,

19:51and some inside.

19:52Oh, so that's how they operate.

19:55Aha. Aha. Okay.

19:58Around here, it's like...

20:03I used to see stronger enforcement and confiscations.

20:06During Zaleha's time,

20:07there were confiscations after confiscations.

20:09It would take them longer to reopen their shops.

20:11Yeah, but now confiscation does nothing.

20:15Even when a warning notice is posted, they reopen.

20:19They reopen?

20:20That's right.

20:21That's crazy.

20:26Just look at the trucks,

20:28cars and motorcycles.

20:29They don't even have licenses,

20:30I don't know who sells the vehicles to them.

20:32They can just ride motorcycles however they want.

20:34Cars too.

20:35Sometimes they even drive Alphards,

20:38not just ordinary cars,

20:40Alphards?

20:40and it's not locals driving them.

20:44Whoa!

20:51Sometimes they even

20:52come and rob the bank inside.

20:54Really?

20:57Man, this is a problem. How do we solve it?

21:00No, no, no. Here's what needs to happen.

21:03The military comes,

21:04Immigration comes,

21:05the police come, DBKL comes.

21:07Those 4 authorities need to come together.

21:10No matter what, search everything. These houses

21:13aren't even supposed to be rented out.

21:14Deal with everything and take them away.

21:17Take everyone away?

21:18Then where would you send them?

21:20That's the problem. Their country doesn't...

21:22Now Myanmar says they can take them back.

21:24Really?

21:26So they can send their people back now.

21:28But the problem is,

21:30their government right now is the military.

21:33The military, the generals.

21:34It doesn't matter now whether it's the military or generals.

21:36Now they can accept

21:38their citizens back.

21:40They're still Myanmar citizens right now.

21:43Yeah.

21:47They're not passport holders, right...

21:50Yeah. So they can go back?

21:52Then if they join the military, that's their problem?

21:55Yeah. That's not the main issue.

21:58Malaysia does not...

21:59has never recognized UNHCR in this country,

22:03and we do not

22:05recognize refugees for admission.

22:07And who brought them in?

22:09Our previous leaders did.

22:12Yeah.

22:12So you understand. I don't need to say who.

22:15I understand, I understand, I understand.

22:17I don't have much more to say. That's all.

22:19Yeah, but that was useful input.

22:21Thank you, bro.

22:22Thank you. Thank you.

22:27No, because the authorities don't do anything either.

22:32Even when they do something,

22:33it just happens again.

22:36They'll arrest them.

22:37Let's say they take action.

22:38Then it's posted on TikTok, and we're happy.

22:40It's posted on TikTok, and we're happy. Okay, good.

22:41People respond, "Good."

22:42But eventually they'll come back,

22:45come back, come back.

22:46So there's someone

22:47profiting from all of this.

22:48Right.

22:49Huh? Right?

22:49Right, right.

22:50That's why it keeps growing back.

22:54Alright. So now,

22:55I understand now, bro.

22:57Why Malaysians are so angry

22:59with foreigners.

23:01Okay. Why?

23:03One!

23:03Huh?

23:04Crime has increased.

23:05Crime has increased, okay.

23:08Who gave you that information earlier?

23:10Yeah, both of them.

23:11Huh?

23:12Those 2 guys from earlier.

23:13Yeah, those 2.

23:14They've been here for 30 years and 15 years.

23:15They wouldn't lie, right?

23:16Right, right, right, right.

23:17So he said that after COVID,

23:19a lot of strange things started happening.

23:21Stabbings and things like that. It's dangerous.

23:24Because these people, they...

23:27have nothing to...

23:28They're not afraid of losing anything.

23:29They're not afraid of losing anything. Yeah, that's right.

23:34When you have nothing to lose,

23:36you just lash out at anything.

23:38You just lash out at anything.

23:39Yeah, you just don't care.

23:41If this isn't controlled,

23:42if it isn't controlled and spreads to other areas,

23:44it'll get even worse.

23:45Even worse. Right, right, right.

23:48Earlier, I learned 2 or 3 things

23:50that were genuinely shocking.

23:53Hmm.

23:54Number 1.

23:55A new piece of information.

23:58That information earlier showed that

24:01when Malaysians look at this place,

24:03they think it's full of Rohingya.

24:05But actually,

24:06it's not just Rohingya, there are Myanmar people too.

24:10Those, those, those...

24:11Myanmar people who don't want to join their military.

24:13So they're Myanmar refugees. Okay, that's 1.

24:16They're not all Rohingya.

24:17Number 2.

24:19They're violent.

24:20They're violent, that's what the guy said earlier.

24:21Violent. That's what the guy told us earlier.

24:22They can stab people and things like that.

24:25Beat people, chase people.

24:26They're not afraid of losing anything.

24:28Number 3, what I found out is,

24:31this isn't just about the government

24:34now or the previous one.

24:36It's been nearly 15, 20 years.

24:38Nearly 15, 20 years!

24:40So it's been going on from previous governments until today.

24:46Relax, calm down.

24:47Then there was 1 more thing I noticed,

24:50when in 1 place,

24:52there are too many people from 1 ethnic group,

24:54they'll inevitably become dominant.

24:57You get it? They become dominant.

24:59Then they become bold, you know?

25:01Extremely bold.

25:02Excessively bold, way too bold.

25:04As if Malaysia has no laws.

25:07Yeah.

25:08Turns out it's not just what we see. It's not that simple.

25:10Turns out there's a tycoon...

25:13Yeah, that's another thing, another thing.

25:16Behind the scenes,

25:19there are tycoons,

25:20business owners who are supporting

25:23the illegal situation that's going on.

25:25I'm not angry at the individuals, you know?

25:28I don't feel hatred when I look at an individual,

25:31but I hate seeing

25:33the situation that's happening.

25:35Who allowed this situation?

25:37Who allowed it?

25:37When I see a little kid, 3 years old,

25:40Yeah!

25:40I can't hate them.

25:42I don't know. I'm just made this way...

25:44I can't be angry at a child.

25:46I can't. I just can't.

25:47I really can't do it.

25:48Even though I know the impact,

25:50soon they'll have more children.

25:52They'll multiply.

25:52Then when they grow up, they'll take over.

25:55But I don't know.

25:56I just can't hate children.

25:58I can't...

25:59I can't feel angry at a little kid.

26:01Yeah.

26:02You understand?

26:03Because they didn't choose to be born into this world.

26:05Right.

26:05So now, we're going to...

26:07Taman Maluri, right?

26:10Oh, Taman Sri Murni.

26:11Good thing you remembered.

26:12Okay. Taman Sri Murni.

26:15Let's check out the park Awie always talks about.

26:28Hahahaha!

26:29Count to 3.

26:33Assalamualaikum.

26:35I'll only count to 5.

26:375, right?

26:38One!

26:40Two!

26:42Three!

26:43Why?

26:46We have no choice.

26:48No choice.

26:50That's crazy, bro!

26:51That's crazy, bro!

26:53Nice, okay.

26:55I need some help.

26:57Assalamualaikum.

26:58I need some help.

26:59I've heard all over TikTok,

27:01people saying that Sri Murni

27:02is the place with the most Rohingya.

27:04I want to know which park it is.

27:06This area, there's 1 up there.

27:08Where?

27:09You need to go up here and enter here.

27:12Pick him up, pick him up.

27:14Pick him up, pick him up.

27:22Don't record, don't record.

27:24Okay, okay.

27:25Okay.

27:26On the motorcycle. On the motorcycle.

27:27Further in, further in. Further in.

27:29Okay, done.

27:31We didn't ask permission, you know?

27:33This is how I do things. It's normal for me.

27:35I don't come over asking for help,

27:37"Do you know where the Rohingya area is?"

27:39No.

27:40The moment you say you know, we take you along.

27:42Yeah, take him along straight away.

27:42Okay, it's up ahead, bro.

27:43Yeah, which side? Tell me.

27:45Turn right, yeah?

27:46There, there, there.

27:49Oh, is this it? Is this it?

27:50Yeah, this park? There's a park over there.

27:53Where? To the right?

27:55Where? I don't see any of them.

27:56There aren't any.

27:58Oh, yeah.

27:58Those are their kids.

27:59Yeah, bro.

28:01Those are their people, bro.

28:02Oh!

28:03I see, I see, I see, I see.

28:05Don't get caught. Don't get caught.

28:07Wait. They'll all run away in a minute.

28:10Wait, wait, wait.

28:11We need to do this first.

28:12We need to get a drone angle first.

28:15Let's look at the situation,

28:16how do you know

28:17they're allowed to do all that?

28:19Oh, really?

28:20We couldn't even play tag before.

28:22Huh? Go to work?

28:23Play tag.

28:24You can't play tag?

28:26You can't, you can't do that, right?

28:27You can't play in the park up there.

28:30You can only play in the lower area.

28:31Because they've been urinating in the park.

28:33Oh, I understand. They make it dirty,

28:35urinating and everything.

28:37Oh, there's a prayer hall here and everything looks fine.

28:39This place was raided the other day.

28:41Oh, it was already raided?

28:47Whoa, they recognize me.

28:51Hi!

28:52Hello, bro. I'm subscribed to you.

28:53Oh, thank you, thank you, thank you.

28:55How are you?

28:55I just watched it last night too.

28:57Oh, you did the bicycle boat out at sea.

29:00Did you like it?

29:01I did! I also watched you the other day,

29:02when you built that birdhouse up in the tree,

29:05and then you stayed there.

29:06Oh!

29:07I only watched it last night.

29:09Yeah! Yeah! Thank you. Thank you.

29:12Thanks for watching the videos.

29:13I looked and noticed,

29:14"Hey, that looks like Isa Isarb's car."

29:15Hahahaha!

29:16I looked. "Oh, it's Isa Isarb."

29:17Hahahaha!

29:18Thank you, thank you.

29:19Do you guys live here? You live here?

29:21Bro, can we take a picture?

29:22Sure, sure, sure.

29:29Do you live here?

29:31I've always lived here.

29:32Oh, man.

29:32I've already blended in with them.

29:33Hahahaha!

29:34I've already, what?

29:35Assimilated with them.

29:37Hahahaha!

29:38I don't hate them or anything.

29:40I'm trying to stay neutral.

29:42We can't really hate them either.

29:44With this issue, we're stuck in the middle.

29:45We're genuinely stuck in the middle.

29:47The government

29:48has its own answers too.

29:49And we have our own answers.

29:52Yeah...

29:53There used to be so many, more than 100 people here.

29:55Whoa, that changed fast, didn't it?

29:57There were a lot, more than 100.

29:58Before what? Before Koroy came,

29:59before Awie came,

30:01there were so many people.

30:01They slaughtered cows. Just casually.

30:03They slaughtered cows in the park?

30:05Yes! Even before that, by the roadside,

30:07around the back here.

30:09They slaughtered cows in that park.

30:10Next time I'll slaughter an elephant here.

30:11Hahahaha!

30:12Yeah, let them see that for a change.

30:13Hahahaha!

30:17They slaughter cows, huh?

30:18What haven't they done?

30:19You saw Koroi's video, right?

30:20Yeah.

30:24I saw someone cooking

30:26in Koroi's video.

30:27That's what made me want to come here.

30:29Cooking downstairs.

30:30They do all sorts of things.

30:31They're happy here.

30:32Yeah.

30:33That part is okay.

30:34Now they're way too comfortable.

30:35There are even effeminate men.

30:36There are gay men too.

30:37Really?

30:38Yeah, there are 3 of them.

30:39There are already 3.

30:41A trio?

30:42Okay, yeah? Okay.

30:42Okay, alright. Assalamualaikum.

30:44I've never considered the Rohingya inferior.

30:47Because I don't want racism.

30:49That's one of my principles in life,

30:51that's my stance.

30:52It's just that some of their actions are disgraceful.

30:54Like spitting betel nut,

30:57like this.

30:58That behavior is disgraceful

30:59and it needs to be corrected.

31:01But an ethnicity...

31:02We can't consider an entire ethnic group inferior.

31:04Because it's the same thing,

31:06if we go to Europe

31:08or America, right?

31:10People can look at our race the same way too.

31:13They'll say, "Asians, Asians."

31:16When we interviewed the residents here,

31:19what I came to understand

31:20is that many of them actually feel

31:23the same way.

31:24They're stuck in the middle too.

31:27Yeah, stuck in the middle.

31:28They have nowhere to speak up. Their situation

31:30has no end to it.

31:31There's no end.

31:32What are they supposed to do, right?

31:34And regarding all the mess they make,

31:36it's because of poor manners and a lack of education.

31:39They weren't taught. When you're not taught,

31:41Hmm, that's the thing.

31:42Of course people will end up hating you.

31:43That's the thing.

31:43Spitting betel nut,

31:45relieving themselves in boxes.

31:47Oh, it really makes me angry when I see it.

31:49Ugh... it's really frustrating.

31:50But... that's the thing. It's not just a lack of education.

31:52Urinating in the park too.

31:54Their parents at home don't teach them either.

31:56I hope all the Rohingya

31:58who are watching this video

32:00will prove

32:03that

32:05you're all trying your very best

32:08to bring positive change to your families.

32:12Prove that you have good manners too.

32:15It's emotionally troubling

32:16while we're making this documentary.

32:19You feel torn.

32:22I'm not... I'm not torn.

32:23My stance is firm.

32:25How so?

32:25I... I think they've had enough.

32:28They've had enough, what do you mean?

32:29Enough is enough. Err...

32:33We, as Malaysian citizens,

32:36have already given them a place

32:38where they can seek refuge.

32:39So it's time to take 1 action.

32:42Take 1 step toward

32:43figuring out how we can handle this better.

32:46Yeah, that's right. I agree.

32:48I'm not saying

32:49I'm torn about taking action.

32:51I'm torn

32:53when thinking about being stuck in the middle.

32:56Oh, right.

32:56You're stuck in the middle when...

33:00When we ourselves don't know.

33:01what decision can be made.

33:04Do you understand?

33:05The situation with our documentary right now is...

33:07The situation with our research right now is,

33:09no one has come up with a solution yet

33:11that seems absolutely clear.

33:13Do you understand?

33:13That's what I mean, opinions are divided.

33:16It's 50-50.

33:17I mean, if we say send them back,

33:19where would they go back to?

33:20Go back where?

33:21Even Myanmar won't accept them.

33:23If we want to build schools in Malaysia,

33:25Man, all the problems

33:27that are currently happening around

33:29Selayang Market will all come up again.

33:32They'll come up again. Even worse,

33:33the problem will spread even further,

33:34right.

33:35Do you understand?

33:36So what do we do in the meantime?

33:38Not even 1 country has an answer.

33:41What can be done?

33:42I mean,

33:44the Prime Minister needs to meet

33:45Myanmar's Prime Minister to discuss it.

33:48Myanmar's Prime Minister...

33:52isn't recognized by the world.

33:55Oh, really?

33:56Yeah.

33:56Myanmar's Prime Minister?

33:58Yes. Because he's from the military.

34:00He seized control of the government.

34:02Oh.

34:03He didn't come to power through democracy.

34:05He seized power.

34:06Oh, so Myanmar

34:07really is a country in chaos.

34:09It's definitely in chaos.

34:15Assalamualaikum.

34:16Assalamualaikum.

34:17I just arrived 10 minutes ago.

34:22Hahaha!

34:23Look at his shirt,

34:24"Roro Not Malaysia."

34:30Hahahaha!

34:31Today, we get to meet Awie.

34:36Now I can't call him

34:38an influencer anymore.

34:38What?

34:39He's an anti-illegal immigrant activist.

34:42Against illegal immigrants and Rohingya refugees.

34:44Especially Rohingya refugees.

34:45Yes.

34:45I saw 1 video this morning.

34:47You went to Bukit Bintang.

34:48Which video?

34:49There was this 1 older lady.

34:51She wasn't an older lady. She was young.

34:52Huh?

34:53That woman, right?

34:54Yeah.

34:55She wasn't an older lady.

34:56Oh, she's young?

34:57Young.

34:57She's young, right, that girl?

34:59Yeah, she's still young.

35:00Since this morning,

35:01we've been to a lot of places with illegal immigrants.

35:03We went to places with illegal immigrants, Rohingya areas,

35:06because we're making this documentary.

35:08Did you go to Selayang?

35:09Yes!

35:09The market? The Wholesale Market?

35:10You're famous there.

35:11The Wholesale Market?

35:12The Wholesale Market!

35:13I went undercover.

35:14I went inside.

35:15I even look somewhat Rohingya.

35:17Then I disguised myself.

35:18Then I went in.

35:19I ate their food.

35:20But you brought a camera?

35:23The camera was hidden.

35:23Where was the camera?

35:24Oh!

35:25It's inside the camera.

35:26No wonder they didn't run away.

35:27I put it here.

35:29I put it here.

35:30Then another person put one on the bag.

35:33We just went in undercover.

35:35Hey, do you know this guy?

35:36What does he usually do around here?

35:38Yeah, things like that.

35:40I managed to dig up a few things.

35:41If you want to know,

35:43most of those coming in now

35:45are Rohingya from Cox's Bazar.

35:47Not from Myanmar.

35:48From Cox's Bazar.

35:49Yes, they're stressed living there,

35:51restricted. So they go to Malaysia.

35:56Because it's difficult for them to leave Myanmar.

35:58They can, but the risk is lower.

36:00At Cox's Bazar,

36:01they're free to do whatever they want.

36:02That's why so many come to Malaysia.

36:03Yeah, I understand.

36:04They're being relocated to 1 island

36:07in Bangladesh, right?

36:08Yeah, that's right.

36:08They want to place all the Rohingya

36:10in Bangladesh

36:11on this 1 island.

36:12Correct.

36:13Personally, Awie,

36:14why did you make this major decision

36:16to become an anti-illegal immigrant activist,

36:19anti-Rohingya?

36:20First of all, experience.

36:22My experience

36:25being around the Rohingya.

36:27Then secondly, netizens, Malaysians.

36:30Yeah, they complained.

36:32They voiced their concerns.

36:33It's like I'm some kind of authority.

36:35They'd say, "Please, Awie. Come here."

36:38"Come here."

36:39So I'm the sympathetic type.

36:40I can't just ignore it.

36:42So I went down there myself,

36:43and that's how I ended up in many unexpected places.

36:47Yeah.

36:48So you mainly started doing this

36:49because people called on you?

36:51Yes, people called on me.

36:52But I started after that case went viral,

36:56that... those viral buildings.

36:58That viral apartment building. Since then.

37:00Not Selayang, Hulu Langat.

37:02Hulu Langat?

37:03The one Pak Azad went to.

37:04Oh, right. That's where this started.

37:07Yes, that's right. That's where it blew up.

37:10I understand!

37:12Oh, right. Yes, yes, yes.

37:13I remember there was 1 brick building.

37:16It looked like an extension of the original building.

37:19Yeah, I remember. Pak Azad uploaded it.

37:21It's already been demolished now.

37:22We made content before it was demolished,

37:24and while it was being demolished.

37:26Even while it was being demolished,

37:28some of them were casually walking around.

37:30Hey, what are you doing?

37:31Hahaha!

37:31Yeah. Yes!

37:33All the houses next to it are theirs.

37:34Yeah, the houses around it are theirs.

37:35That whole row next to it is theirs.

37:36Oh, really?

37:38So only 1 family had their place demolished?

37:40Not 1 family.

37:41There were many families inside.

37:43Not just 1 family

37:44because how many floors did it have?

37:46How many floors?

37:47Yeah.

37:484... 3 floors.

37:49They were going to add a 4th, right?

37:50Yeah. Something like that.

37:54What was the scariest experience

37:55you went through while doing this?

37:57The scariest experience?

37:58The most intense one.

37:59The most intense one.

38:01The most intense was when we were confronting people,

38:03me and him.

38:04Going around confronting people.

38:05We had just started making this content,

38:06we hadn't started livestreaming yet.

38:07We hadn't even thought about livestreaming.

38:09While we were filming, just about to turn on the camera,

38:12a sepak takraw ball came from behind.

38:14We turned around, and nobody admitted it.

38:15But they were playing sepak takraw behind us.

38:18Yeah, we asked everyone and nobody admitted it.

38:19"No, it wasn't us, no, no, no."

38:21He's a witness.

38:22He's a witness.

38:23So we immediately started livestreaming.

38:24Boom! Everyone ran away.

38:26The whole place was empty.

38:30Was this after you uploaded 2, 3 videos?

38:32Yeah, after uploading 2, 3 videos.

38:34Oh, they threw the sepak takraw ball?

38:36I don't know if they threw it,

38:37or kicked it, but it definitely hit me here.

38:39Was it hard?

38:40Not that hard, but it hit me. It startled me.

38:43Man, they've got some damn nerve. Yeah!

38:46Hahahaha!

38:47That was the scariest one.

38:49That was the scariest.

38:50But even scarier than that

38:51were the threats. The threats.

38:53What kind of threats, for example?

38:55Threats on social media.

38:56Oh, social media? That's normal.

38:57Yeah, on social media. That's normal.

38:58Threats to behead me, to...

39:00Lots of things like that.

39:01Yes.

39:03After that incident,

39:04the sepak takraw incident,

39:05that night, there was a Rohingya teenager.

39:07"You're lucky you got out of Cheras.

39:09Otherwise, you'd have lost your head."

39:11Hey, there are a lot of cases involving them, you know?

39:13That's right.

39:14That's Selayang,

39:15but this one was in Cheras Baru.

39:17The field you guys went to.

39:19That field

39:19is packed on Saturday and Sunday afternoons, on weekends.

39:22The whole field is theirs.

39:23They play football, they play sepak takraw.

39:25They sell things there too.

39:26We went there during durian season.

39:28Durian. They were selling it.

39:29When we came, they grabbed the fruit.

39:31They only took the durians

39:32because durians are expensive, right?

39:33Yeah, they only took the durians back.

39:34They left the other fruits and vegetables by the side.

39:38Some of them were selling fish.

39:40Yeah, selling fish at the field.

39:42At the field?

39:42At the field!

39:43The playground?

39:43Yes!

39:44And if you look at the drain around the field,

39:46there's all kinds of trash.

39:47Badminton stuff, sepak takraw balls, basketballs,

39:50disposable diapers, all kinds of things.

39:52And most of the trash we find

39:54belongs to them.

39:56Drinks from their country.

39:58Energy drinks. Canned drinks, bottled drinks,

40:00most of them are their products.

40:01Their products. Made in Myanmar.

40:03Right there.

40:04If you want to know whether they're around,

40:06if you want to tell whether they're there,

40:07just look at the trash.

40:09So this really is

40:09made in Myanmar?

40:10Yeah, that's one thing. But the main thing is betel nut.

40:13Hahaha!

40:14What do we call it? Abrat.

40:15Abrat.

40:16We went to the housing area nearby.

40:18There was a Myanmar guy riding a motorcycle.

40:21"Hey, where?" We asked,

40:22"Do you have a license or anything?"

40:24"Yes, yes, yes."

40:25They got off. You could smell his breath. He was drunk.

40:27Drunk?

40:27Drunk!

40:28That's very wrong.

40:29And he's Muslim.

40:30It's not good to do that.

40:31"Brother, Assalamualaikum, brother."

40:33while he was drunk. We could smell it.

40:35You could smell it strongly, right?

40:36Yeah, we could smell it.

40:37We told him to stand up. He was leaning sideways.

40:38Hahahaha!

40:39Then they got back on the motorcycle and left.

40:41We made them switch. We told them to switch riders.

40:42Because the passenger wasn't drunk.

40:44The drunk one, how could he be driving?

40:45That's what worried us.

40:46It's in the livestream.

40:48We've already uploaded the livestream.

40:49It's just that the part where he was drunk didn't go viral.

40:51In your opinion, how can this problem be solved?

40:53What's your view based on your investigation?

40:56Solving this problem won't be easy.

40:58The authorities just need to be firm.

41:01As for those already here...

41:02For those who want to enter in the future,

41:04we block them 100 percent

41:05from entering.

41:06We secure the border 100 percent.

41:07What about those already here?

41:08Those already here, we...

41:10Send them back little by little, slowly,

41:11step by step.

41:12Send them where?

41:13Send them back to where they came from.

41:14We should just tell them to go back.

41:16The same way you came,

41:17that's how you go back.

41:18Why should we have to send them? Right?

41:19If they can come by boat,

41:20why can't they go back by boat?

41:22Doesn't that make sense?

41:23They can come here by boat.

41:24Why can't they go back by boat?

41:25Obviously, those boats are gone now, right?

41:27We could, Malaysians could...

41:29build 1 boat.

41:30Build 1 boat or raise funds

41:32for a special boat for them. Yeah!

41:35Then they can figure out where they want to go.

41:38That's how I see it.

41:39But, hahahaha!

41:41Good idea.

41:42Might as well build a big boat.

41:44"You get on, you leave."

41:45Yeah, go. Figure it out yourselves.

41:47At our expense.

41:49Even though we never invited them, right?

41:51We didn't invite them, but we're still being kind.

41:53We give them a boat.

41:55No need to think about it. Go wherever you want.

41:58No, we're not cruel.

41:58We're not just throwing them out, we're giving them a boat.

42:00Right? Yeah.

42:01But most people I've asked,

42:03Malaysians are all willing

42:04to contribute funds to give them a boat

42:06instead of flying them. That's expensive.

42:08It costs a lot.

42:09Hahahaha!

42:10Personally...

42:12This is a personal question.

42:14How do you feel...

42:16How do you feel when you see Rohingya people?

42:18Do you dislike that ethnicity,

42:21or do you dislike their behavior,

42:23or do you dislike...

42:24Do you dislike the fact that they came here?

42:26Okay, this is exclusive.

42:29Exclusive, yes.

42:31No one knows this yet.

42:32No one knows this yet.

42:33Exclusive!

42:33Actually,

42:35I used to be like other Malaysians...

42:37We were all the same before. We'd see the Rohingya and feel sorry for them.

42:40Begging for money, right?

42:42We felt sorry that they had nowhere to live.

42:44Carrying their children by the roadside,

42:45begging for money and all that.

42:47And then...

42:49When we'd hear songs like,

42:50"Good Night Rohingya,"

42:51we'd feel even sadder and everything.

42:53Yeah. Yeah.

42:54But after I had experiences with them,

42:57and Malaysian netizens also

42:59shared their experiences,

43:00that sympathy disappeared. Gone!

43:02Okay.

43:03Gone. It disappeared automatically.

43:04Yeah.

43:05And it didn't disappear because we dislike them.

43:08It's their behavior.

43:09The culture they bring to Malaysia.

43:10Yes, their behavior.

43:12I understand, I understand.

43:13They say they're Muslims.

43:14Muslims, but Islam doesn't teach people to be filthy, bro.

43:16How are you going to pray if you're dirty?

43:18You have to maintain cleanliness in Islam.

43:19Right?

43:19Right, right. That's right.

43:20Any country would emphasize cleanliness.

43:22You have to maintain cleanliness.

43:23But even that,

43:24even something that basic, they can't maintain.

43:26I understand, I understand.

43:27Everyone tells us it's their behavior

43:29that they don't like.

43:35This part here just went viral.

43:38They left their child here by the side, and someone recorded it.

43:41Then they just walked off like that.

43:42Bro. Hahaha!

43:44We don't...

43:45It wasn't spit, you know?

43:47Yeah!

43:48Spit would at least make sense.

43:49Bro!

43:50!

43:52What was that coming out?

43:54Like that athlete?

43:56Like that athlete.

43:57Hahahaha!

43:58There's no proof.

44:00Bro!

44:03The other day, we went into a Rohingya prayer hall.

44:06We just went in, but...

44:08The accusations on social media said you attacked the place, right?

44:12Yeah, that's one of those... what do people call it?

44:14People are targeting me.

44:16People are targeting me.

44:17Anything that makes me look bad gets used.

44:18But actually, Awie went in, took off his shoes and gave the Islamic greeting.

44:21Yeah.

44:22And at the time, they were apparently praying in congregation at 5.30 PM.

44:26It's okay, only Allah knows.

44:27But in the video, we went in and showed it.

44:30Because inside that prayer hall...

44:33What information?

44:34All the notice boards were already in their language.

44:37The donation box was labeled in their language.

44:38The box where we give donations was labeled in their language.

44:41Where is this?

44:42In Selayang.

44:43Selayang.

44:44Taman Wilayah.

44:45Taman Wilayah near what? Desa Bakti.

44:47Desa Bakti.

44:49If you know Flat Colombia.

44:50That's where their prayer hall is, Flat Colombia.

44:51Flat Colombia?

44:52Flat Colombia.

44:53If you go there, bro.

44:54Oh, Colombia, bro.

44:56Colombia, bro!

44:58It feels like Colombia, bro.

44:59Betel spit by the windows, bro. Still dripping.

45:02Hahahaha!

45:04Betel spit by the windows.

45:08This is crazy.

45:10It's gotten to the point where...

45:11The residents there themselves told us,

45:12there's spit all over every staircase.

45:14Spit, you know, betel stains everywhere.

45:17Even scrubbing won't remove it.

45:19Spitting is already considered normal there.

45:22Then that guy told us... Hey, can we say this?

45:25About them having sex?

45:26Hahahaha!

45:27Really?

45:28Having sex on the stairs?

45:30Having sex with a Malaysian girl, bro.

45:32A local Malaysian Malay girl wearing a hijab.

45:34Having sex on the stairs

45:35with a Rohingya boy.

45:37Were they both kids?

45:38Not exactly kids.

45:40Teenagers. Her brother told us.

45:42Her own brother told us.

45:44The girl's brother.

45:45La ilaha illallah!

45:46Whoa!

45:46That's crazy, bro! The girl doesn't know anything.

45:48She's a teenager who doesn't know anything.

45:49because she doesn't know anything about the Rohingya.

45:52So she probably thought he was just a normal friend.

45:53A neighbor and all that.

45:54That's why we need to spread awareness about this.

45:56What happened?

45:58We don't know what happened.

45:59If they already had sex, we don't know what happened after that.

46:01Yeah, the JMB here.

46:04The management of this apartment itself privately messaged us

46:06to share the problems they have there.

46:09When we kept asking questions,

46:10they had actually

46:11taken action against these Rohingya before.

46:13They filed reports and everything,

46:14but because there were so many Rohingya,

46:16he ended up backing down. That's the JMB, bro.

46:18The management there had to back down.

46:20They had to file a police report.

46:21Then the police called him in instead.

46:21They said he'd stolen a motorcycle,

46:23when it was actually his motorcycle that went missing.

46:25Yes, that Indian guy.

46:26We met him ourselves. Yeah.

46:27Oh my God.

46:28It's right here, this apartment complex.

46:31See how many negative effects there are

46:32once they've taken over an area?

46:35And this is only what we know.

46:36What about what we don't know?

46:37Because we've been to many states.

46:39Penang, Pahang,

46:40Perak, Kuantan.

46:43They're everywhere, bro.

46:46We're going to Johor Bahru next.

46:47Yeah, we're going to Johor Bahru at the end of this month.

46:49It's the same problem everywhere.

46:50There's a video from Aceh.

46:52They had just gotten off the boat.

46:54People gave them food.

46:55Then they put them back on the boat?

46:56No, they complained that there wasn't enough food.

46:58They said it wasn't enough. Not enough rice.

47:00The Acehnese guy recorded it.

47:02He went like this.

47:03The uncle was recording.

47:04"That's enough. Enough."

47:06Hahahaha!

47:07If you don't believe me, you can look it up.

47:08Yeah, yeah, yeah.

47:10That video went viral, bro.

47:11See their behavior?

47:12That's the attitude they bring there.

47:13People are already helping you,

47:14giving you food and everything, accepting you.

47:16And you can still say it isn't enough?

47:17Hahahaha!

47:20They just threw all their trash into the sea.

47:23Then the trash washed back up in Aceh.

47:25Hahahaha!

47:26Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

47:27I understand, I understand, I understand.

47:28Okay, thank you for sharing with us.

47:31Okay.

47:32Thank you. Thank you.

47:32You're welcome. Thank you too.

47:33That's 1 thing that's hard for me to get, this kind of experience.

47:37It's something new.

47:38Yeah.

47:39Thank you for agreeing to this.

47:41Thank you too for inviting us.

47:44What's your name?

47:45I'm Aril.

47:46Aril?

47:47Fatah.

47:47Fatah? Okay, great.

47:49So I'll get going, okay?

47:50Anything else?

47:50No. Nothing for now.

47:52Awesome, thank you.

47:54If you have a passport,

47:56and want to come to Bangladesh, let me know.

47:58Do you have a passport?

47:59Of course I do.

48:00Of course you do! How many times have you been to Phuket, Thailand?

48:02Not that many.

48:03Hahahaha!

48:05Really? Are you serious?

48:06Serious, serious, serious.

48:08Okay, but you'll need to cover your face a little.

48:11Because you must have gone viral already.

48:12But from Cox's Bazar, Dhaka,

48:14will you come straight back here?

48:15I'll continue on to...

48:17Sure, sure.

48:18Okay.

48:19I was thinking of taking some questions from you.

48:21So if you can come yourself, even better.

48:26Okay, thank you.

48:27All right. Okay. Assalamualaikum.

48:30Okay, so we've finished our interview

48:33with the anti...

48:35anti-Rohingya or anti-illegal immigrant activist.

48:38So next, tomorrow...

48:40I want to draw a conclusion first

48:42from everything we've learned.

48:44Then tomorrow I'll see

48:46what else we still need to cover,

48:47what else we need to find.

48:50Then I'll let you guys know tomorrow morning.

48:52All right, good night.

48:58All right, look ahead.

48:59Look ahead.

49:00Yes! We've arrived at KLIA!

49:06We've arrived at the airport. Okay.

49:08Man, I'm seriously nervous.

49:10I'm seriously nervous, extremely nervous.

49:11I'm scared to go to Cox's Bazar.

49:13Are you scared or not?

49:14I'm nervous too.

49:15But I did a little research.

49:18Okay, what?

49:19About the place.

49:20Yeah.

49:20I saw...

49:22Okay, it doesn't seem that dangerous.

49:23It looks okay to me.

49:25Some people can speak English.

49:27Where? In Cox's Bazar?

49:28Some people in Cox's Bazar can speak English.

49:29Oh, really? Okay.

49:31All right, all right.

49:32Man, you've eased my fear.

49:35Because what I'm afraid of...

49:36You know what?

49:38I'm afraid of getting beaten up.

49:39Not at Immigration.

49:40Awie can't wear a face covering.

49:43Right? The guy we're bringing,

49:45he can't wear a face covering.

49:48So I'm worried even about the Immigration people...

49:50Because Cox's Bazar is a Rohingya area,

49:53a Rohingya area.

49:54They have connections with the Rohingya.

49:55Then they could tell them,

49:56"Okay, this guy has entered this area."

49:58Then we're screwed, man.

49:59It's the same in Afghanistan, man.

50:01Oh, really?

50:01I think, Insha-Allah, nothing will happen.

50:03Insha-Allah, Insha-Allah.

50:04Because that place really is...

50:06I saw that Al Jazeera went there too.

50:09They're the media.

50:11They're the media, man.

50:13They had soldiers with them. They're the media.

50:16We're not the press, we're the pressure.

50:19Hahahaha!

50:19We're the pressure.

50:20We're the pressure, huh?

50:21Yeah.

50:22We put on a lot of pressure.

50:23Where are we going to park now?

50:25Just park somewhere.

50:27Outside, right? The parking lot?

50:28Is the parking on the right or left?

50:31Oh, there's this lady.

50:34Hi!

50:34Assalamualaikum!

50:35I'm a fan of yours.

50:37Oh, really? Thank you.

50:38All my children are fans of yours.

50:39Thank you, thank you.

50:40Is that thing on top expensive?

50:41RM1,800

50:42RM80 or RM1,800?

50:44RM1,800

50:45Man, you're rich.

50:47Did you already withdraw your EPF money?

50:52Oh.

50:53I'm disabled.

50:54Oh, a person with a disability. I understand.

50:56My children are fans of Isa.

50:59Thank you. Have a wonderful day.

51:01Have a good day.

51:03Where's the parking?

51:05Okay, okay, okay.

51:06She probably heard, "Where are you from?"

51:09Oh!

51:09Yeah, something like that.

51:11"Where's the parking?"

51:12She answered, "Melaka. Melaka."

51:13Hahahaha!

51:15That's a long way to park.

51:16Hahahaha!

51:17I'll call Awie first.

51:19Hello, Assalamualaikum.

51:22Boss, you're at KFC, right?

51:25Yeah, at KFC.

51:27No checked baggage or anything, right?

51:28No. No.

51:30Everything's under 7kg, right? Nothing heavy, right?

51:33No. No.

51:34Okay, good.

51:36Yeah, okay, great.

51:38We're at the parking lot. It's full.

51:41Yeah, okay, okay.

51:42Yeah, okay.

51:43Okay, we'll come over to KFC later, okay?

51:46I'm at KFC. Let me know if anything comes up.

51:48Okay, great.

51:50There are things he does that I like.

51:52And there are things, like I told him yesterday,

51:54that I don't like.

51:56The reason we're bringing him to Cox's Bazar

51:58is so he can see things more clearly.

52:03Do you understand? So he can see things more clearly, right?

52:05Okay, this overflow is because of this. Because of this.

52:07So at least, the things that...

52:10the things that go too far,

52:12like getting angry, for example.

52:14Right, he went...

52:16He confronted someone in front of a small child,

52:19in front of a 2-year-old.

52:20He confronted the father.

52:22Then he got angry at the 2-year-old too.

52:23And that, I... I disagree with that.

52:26It's like spreading hatred.

52:28Spreading hatred, do you understand?

52:29How do you say it?

52:30What do you call it in Malay?

52:32Influencing people to...

52:34behave unethically.

52:36Oh!

52:37Because even if...

52:39Even if someone robs our house,

52:41we're not allowed to...

52:43Because even if...

52:44someone does something very wrong,

52:46we, as ordinary citizens,

52:48aren't allowed to go around

52:50doing aggressive things,

52:52cursing, threatening and all that. Why?

52:54Because it would undermine the country's stability.

52:57The stability of a government.

53:00The stability of a place.

53:02If you notice, we brought bags,

53:04bags that are completely strapped up,

53:05completely strapped up.

53:06Completely strapped up. Look at this.

53:08This is actually supposed to be a hiking bag, you know.

53:10Yes.

53:11Why are we bringing bags like this?

53:13Because we're afraid of getting robbed.

53:15Hahaha!

53:18Yeah, that's why, we're afraid of getting robbed.

53:21So to prevent anything from being stolen,

53:23that's why we have...

53:24all kinds of straps on them.

53:27If you bring a normal bag,

53:28someone can easily open it from behind because of all the pockets.

53:31Awie, where is he waiting?

53:36Tell him to come here.

53:37Come to the International gate.

53:41The international gate.

53:42The international gate.

53:43Near the international departures area.

53:47Everything here is international anyway.

54:04Waalaikumussalam.

54:05Boss!

54:08Can I get in trouble looking like this? Surely not?

54:09Hahahaha!

54:11All right. All right.

54:12Okay, ready?

54:13Okay, ready.

54:14Hahahaha!

54:15Good manners...

54:21How many questions do you want to ask?

54:22It doesn't matter, it's up to you.

54:24We'll ask questions. If you have any,

54:26you can ask

54:27questions you've probably wanted to ask for a long time.

54:29Genuine ones.

54:30"What's your favorite color?"

54:31Hahahaha!

54:33That's completely unrelated.

54:34What I mainly want to know is why,

54:36what caused the influx from Cox's Bazar.

54:39That's all I want to know. That's my research.

54:41I'm going there because I want to know why...

54:43the influx from Cox's Bazar

54:44started after 3 years ago.

54:46The influx started after COVID.

54:47I want to know what's happening there.

54:49What's going on?

54:50Do they have hospitals?

54:51How do they live?

54:52What are the roads like?

54:53Write that down, write it down, write it down.

54:55That's definitely what I...

54:57what they're actually doing there.

54:59Yeah, that.

54:59Yeah, exactly. Maybe that's why there's an influx.

55:02We don't know.

55:02Maybe it's because they don't have hospitals,

55:04or don't have certain things. Maybe that's the reason.

55:09Okay.

55:12Are you using a normal bag?

55:14A normal bag. Look at the logo.

55:15Whoa, Batman! Hahahaha!

55:18I mean, is this okay?

55:20Yes. Yes.

55:20Yeah, that's fine. Okay, okay.

55:24It's rough over there.

55:25It's gang territory.

55:27That's why I had to bring a hiking bag

55:29with 10 straps.

55:31Oh, in front.

55:33Oh! There's a way to do it?

55:34Hahahaha!

55:37There's only 1 part I'm worried about.

55:38They might have people at Immigration.

55:41At Immigration, you can't wear any of this stuff.

55:42You have to take everything off,

55:43like in Afghanistan and everywhere else.

55:45They might have people at Immigration too.

55:50You'll be surprised by how we do things.

55:53We eat all kinds of food.

55:55As long as it's halal.

55:56As long as it's halal.

55:56We eat everything.

55:58And you've never...?

55:59Hahahaha!

56:00It has happened before.

56:02In Dubai... no, when did we go to Dubai?

56:04The time we had diarrhea.

56:05No, from Indonesia,

56:06we went straight to Dubai, right?

56:07The diarrhea happened in Dubai.

56:10Yeah.

56:12It started in Indonesia.

56:15The diarrhea hit in Dubai.

56:16Hahahaha!

56:29Hi, Assalamualaikum.

56:33Hi.

56:3420?

56:35Where are you going?

56:36Huh? I'm going to Cox's Bazar.

56:38The Rohingya area, we're making a documentary.

56:40My gate closes in 15 minutes.

56:43Okay, goodbye.

56:44Okay, goodbye.

56:49Hahahaha!

56:53You blend in. That's how you

56:55blend in.

56:57Hahahaha!

57:02Hahahaha!

57:14What airline are we taking?

57:16Biman Bangladesh Airlines.

57:17We're flying Biman.

57:18Yeah, Biman Bangladesh Airlines.

57:19Wait, isn't it Biman?

57:21Biman Bangladesh Airlines.

57:23Oh, there's a particular way to pronounce it.

57:25There's nobody at the counter, bro.

57:26No way. No way.

57:28Seriously, the gate must have changed.

57:29Search for it, enter the flight number.

57:31There's no way there's nobody here with 20 minutes left.

57:33There's nobody here, no way.

57:35Give me the flight number.

57:36The flight number is...

57:37C32, right?

57:38C32, C32.

57:40BG383

57:42BG383.

57:48383

57:50Did they change the gate or something?

57:52It doesn't show the gate.

57:53It still doesn't show the gate.

57:54Man, no way.

57:56There's nobody here.

57:56No way. Yeah.

57:58The gate must have changed.

58:02Maybe they didn't come.

58:04He said, "... you guys."

58:09Oh, they called? I'm heading to the gate.

58:10Can I know what the gate number is?

58:12Because there's nobody at C35.

58:14You've all checked in already,

58:17and gone inside, right?

58:19Yes.

58:19I don't need to check in

58:21because I don't have any checked baggage.

58:22I just went straight inside.

58:24The gate number? Hold on, sir. Gate... C4.

58:27C4?

58:29Yes, that's right.

58:30What?

58:31What the heck? C4! Run, run, run, run!

58:33C4, let's go!

58:56Yeah. Here.

58:57Here? Is the gate already closed?

59:00What time does it open?

59:026:30.

59:046:30.

59:05Yeah.

59:06Are you going to Dhaka?

59:07Yes, Dhaka.

59:12Someone from Biman called earlier.

59:13He said you hadn't checked in your bags yet.

59:15Right? He said there were 20 minutes left.

59:21No, it doesn't even say C4 here.

59:23Indonesian?

59:25Malaysian.

59:25Malaysian?

59:27Do I look Indonesian?

59:29Hahaha!

59:30Where are you from?

59:32Name?

59:33Jaidul.

59:33Hey, you're right.

59:34Check it properly.

59:35Yeah, properly.

59:36BG383.

59:38It hasn't started boarding yet, right?

59:39It hasn't started boarding. Everyone has gone.

59:41It only opens at 6:30.

59:45Hey, I don't think it's this one.

59:46This is the delayed one.

59:47We need to ask this guy, bro.

59:55Our flight isn't delayed.

59:56Sir, can I ask something?

59:58Do we wait here for this flight?

59:59Yes, wait here for now.

1:00:01This one, right? BG383?

1:00:02Correct.

1:00:03Okay, good.

1:00:08All right, so right now,

1:00:10we haven't gone in yet.

1:00:11Because if you look,

1:00:13we still have a long way to walk before we board.

1:00:15See?

1:00:16It's still a long way.

1:00:17So we're going to be the very last ones.

1:00:19Meanwhile, I'll take in the atmosphere for a moment,

1:00:21and see how they...

1:00:33Wow, so green.

1:00:37Okay.

1:00:39The closer we get to arriving,

1:00:42the more nervous I'm getting.

1:00:45We're number 6.

1:00:46J30

1:00:48You're J, right?

1:00:49I'm J.

1:00:50Oh yeah, I want seat J3. Please, please!

1:00:54Let's play for it. Whoever wins gets it.

1:00:56I'm done for...

1:00:57I'm done for...

1:01:01When you get there, you're going to get attacked.

1:01:03Hahahaha!

1:01:05This is seriously dangerous, you know.

1:01:06Man, it's dangerous.

1:01:08Okay, now it's your turn.

1:01:11Later, when we arrive in Bangladesh,

1:01:13I'll see you guys again. All right?

1:01:47So right now, we're trying to...

1:01:49On this flight,

1:01:50everyone on this flight...

1:01:52Most of them have lived in Malaysia for a long time.

1:01:54So they obviously know Malay.

1:01:56So I'm looking for...

1:01:58someone who knows Malay

1:01:59and Bengali to be our interpreter.

1:02:01When we arrive at Cox's Bazar,

1:02:03we'll be able to interview more people.

1:02:06And we'll be able to dig deeper into the story.

1:02:09Because I don't want, later on...

1:02:10When I get there, I'll speak English,

1:02:12but the people there won't understand.

1:02:14We're heading to...

1:02:15a third-world country, right?

1:02:27Whoa!

1:02:28We've landed.

1:02:30We've landed.

1:02:31Look outside, guys!

1:02:34We've arrived in Dhaka.

1:02:36But there are no direct flights from Malaysia...

1:02:39straight to Cox's Bazar.

1:02:41So we'll stop in Dhaka first.

1:02:42Then from Dhaka,

1:02:44we'll fly to Cox's Bazar tomorrow morning.

1:02:46So right now, I'm going to...

1:02:50find somewhere to sleep.

1:02:52We'll wake up tomorrow morning and continue to Cox's Bazar.

1:02:55Because there really isn't

1:02:56a single direct flight, okay?

1:02:58So let's find somewhere to sleep.

1:03:02Hey, it looks like there's a riot.

1:03:04Whoa! Whoa! Whoa!

1:03:05Hahahaha!

1:03:08It looks like there's a riot, look.

1:03:10Whoa!

1:03:12This is so different from

1:03:14all our previous flights, huh?

1:03:18Oh, yes. Thank you.

1:03:20Thank you.

1:03:21Earlier, I tried to find someone

1:03:23to guide us around Cox's Bazar,

1:03:26but I couldn't find anyone.

1:03:28No one. I already made an offer to the guy up front.

1:03:32Oh, he did make an offer.

1:03:34I'm just not confident about this guy.

1:03:36Yeah, he's like...

1:03:37you don't want to go with him?

1:03:40Aiyo.

1:03:41We... uh...

1:03:43Maybe we'll wait

1:03:45until we get to Cox's Bazar, right?

1:03:46Once we're in Cox's Bazar, we'll find...

1:03:48someone who can speak...

1:03:49Malay or English.

1:03:50Then we'll offer them

1:03:52a service fee or something.

1:03:53I think that would be better.

1:04:12Do you drive a taxi?

1:04:14Taxi, yes.

1:04:21So we've found the hotel.

1:04:24We didn't leave our passports or anything behind, right?

1:04:26No.

1:04:28Whoa, the room is pretty big.

1:04:30Yeah!

1:04:33The problem is, these are all single beds.

1:04:35What do we do?

1:04:39Are you sleeping with me?

1:04:40Hahahaha!

1:04:42Are there no extra beds?

1:04:431 more bed?

1:04:45No bed?

1:04:47Oh, there are 5 of us, huh?

1:04:49Ah, just use them. 2 people to a bed.

1:04:51Just push them together.

1:04:52Yeah, push them together.

1:04:53But are they locked in place?

1:04:551 bed can be adjusted.

1:04:58It can be adjusted? Okay, how?

1:05:01Yeah, push them together.

1:05:08When I was a kid,

1:05:09we'd push beds together and have fights, you know.

1:05:11Whoa!

1:05:13So, okay. Let's fight. How?

1:05:18Yeah, come on! Fight!

1:05:21Yeah!

1:05:22Yeah!

1:05:25Hey, it could burst.

1:05:27This pillow could burst, right?

1:05:28Huh? No way.

1:05:30Whoever falls off the bed loses.

1:05:33Fall off the bed and you lose. Yeah.

1:05:35Okay. Thank you.

1:05:38Okay, okay. Thank you.

1:05:40Hahaha!

1:05:41Okay.

1:05:43Fall off the bed and you lose, right?

1:05:44Fall off the bed and you lose, right?

1:05:45Fall off the bed and you lose?

1:05:46Yeah.

1:05:47In that case, I'll just do this.

1:05:48I'll push you.

1:05:49Yeah, I'll push you.

1:05:51You can push?

1:05:52That's the whole point of the fight.

1:05:54The moment you push me,

1:05:55boom! I'll go through the wall.

1:05:58Hahahaha!

1:06:07Yeah! You lose!

1:06:10You lose!

1:06:12Why did you hit him?

1:06:14He's not even in the game,

1:06:16he has nothing to do with this.

1:06:21Ouch.

1:06:47Ah.

1:06:49A nerve-racking morning.

1:06:51I don't know what's going to happen today.

1:06:53Uh, I'm worried about that place.

1:06:56I'll keep you updated from time to time.

1:06:58What are we going to do?

1:06:59That's Zul. He's waiting.

1:07:01Zul, he's waiting...

1:07:02He's looking for a taxi.

1:07:05Let's take a taxi to the airport first.

1:07:15Is that the car?

1:07:16This one.

1:07:17Wow, thank you.

1:07:20Thank you, sir.

1:07:21Thank you.

1:07:23Have a nice day.

1:07:25Hahahaha!

1:07:58Thank you.

1:08:00No passport anymore.

1:08:02Yeah.

1:08:03Just the ticket.

1:08:04Domestic? Huh?

1:08:09Oh, okay.

1:08:11Okay. Okay, let's go.

1:08:11What do we say?

1:08:12He said...

1:08:14"No more passport, ticket, ticket."

1:08:36We're doomed.

1:08:37Looks like it.

1:08:38Looks like our journey today is going to be dangerous.

1:08:41A propeller plane.

1:08:42What year in the 2000s is this plane from?

1:08:47Huh? Man, we're doomed.

1:09:01I don't think your bag will fit.

1:09:05Seriously, are you sure?

1:09:07If you're sure, okay.

1:09:09The captain is just casually walking in and out.

1:09:12Scary.

1:09:48Hah!

1:09:50Alhamdulillah.

1:09:51Where? Do we get off at the front or the back?

1:09:54Thank you, Captain.

1:09:55You're welcome.

1:09:55This is interesting, guys.

1:09:58Why did this suddenly turn into a photo spot?

1:10:01Hahahaha!

1:10:03Everyone's taking pictures.

1:10:04Hahahaha!

1:10:05Awie!

1:10:06We've arrived in Cox's Bazar, Awie.

1:10:08Cover your face, Awie.

1:10:10You'll have to be cut out later, Awie.

1:10:12Hahahaha!

1:10:13The guy next to me said,

1:10:15"Do you know Abang Koroy?"

1:10:16Who?

1:10:17Yeah. He doesn't know I'm Abang Koroy.

1:10:19Who?

1:10:20There was someone. The guy beside me earlier.

1:10:22What did you ask him?

1:10:23I opened TikTok.

1:10:25"Who's that? Oh, that's Abang Koroy," he said.

1:10:28I said, "Is he famous?"

1:10:29Yeah, he's famous. I've watched his videos.

1:10:31Whoa! We're doomed!

1:10:33On the flight just now?

1:10:34Yeah!

1:10:35Oh God!

1:10:38He doesn't know

1:10:39who he's talking to.

1:10:41If he knew,

1:10:41he would've pulled out a pocket knife by now.

1:10:44Hahahaha!

1:10:45Guys, we've arrived in Cox's Bazar.

1:10:52What are you doing here?

1:10:53Huh?

1:10:53What are you doing?

1:10:55Picking up my things.

1:10:55Wait here, wait. What for?

1:10:57Carrying things.

1:10:58Hey, you can speak Malay?

1:11:01I just came back.

1:11:03Huh?

1:11:03I just arrived.

1:11:04Oh, you were next to us earlier.

1:11:06Oh, you just arrived here?

1:11:07Oh, do you live here?

1:11:10No, I'm going somewhere else.

1:11:12Where are you going?

1:11:13I'm going to Teknaf.

1:11:16Teknaf? Not Cox's Bazar.

1:11:18This is Cox's Bazar.

1:11:20Yeah, okay, okay.

1:11:21Okay. Enjoy your day.

1:11:23Okay.

1:11:26Hello.

1:11:28Tuktuk?

1:11:29Tuktuk?

1:11:31Bro, why is everyone swarming us, bro?

1:11:33What's the name of your hotel, sir?

1:11:35Uh, wait. Let me check first.

1:11:38Location?

1:11:39One moment.

1:11:39Guys, why are they swarming us?

1:11:42I'm a tuktuk driver.

1:11:43Oh, you're a tuktuk driver?

1:11:45Do you know anyone who can speak Malay?

1:11:49Malay?

1:11:51Huh? Malay?

1:11:53Can you speak Malay?

1:11:56You can't speak it?

1:11:57Just find any available hotel. No problem.

1:11:59I want to go to the refugee camp.

1:12:02The Rohingya refugee camp, okay.

1:12:03Yes! Yes! Yes!

1:12:04Okay, record a video.

1:12:06Okay.

1:12:07But I need someone

1:12:08who can speak Malay.

1:12:10Go to Hangaram.

1:12:11You came from the airport. 4000.

1:12:15Let's go now. Come on.

1:12:16I want to go to the tourist police.

1:12:19Tourist police.

1:12:20Yes. Yes.

1:12:20Where are the tourist police?

1:12:21Tourist police?

1:12:23Tourist police.

1:12:24[Unclear]

1:12:28Refugee camp.

1:12:30Kutupalong refugee camp.

1:12:35I understand, Kutupalong refugee camp.

1:12:37Kutupalong?

1:12:38Yes. Kutupalong.

1:12:38Is there a police station there?

1:12:40Tourist police station?

1:12:41The tourist police station is that way, only 3 km.

1:12:46There's only 1 tourist police station?

1:12:47This is the tourist police station.

1:12:49Headquarters.

1:12:50Headquarters?

1:12:51Yes, I understand.

1:12:52Tourist police headquarters?

1:12:54Yes, yes, yes, yes.

1:12:55Okay, let's go.

1:12:57No, I asked him to take us

1:12:59to the tourist police station.

1:13:02To the tourist police station.

1:13:04Yeah. Tourist police station.

1:13:08Because yesterday I got some advice

1:13:10from that tourist information center.

1:13:13He said,

1:13:14don't make yourself stand out,

1:13:16because it could get dangerous.

1:13:18Like if you show

1:13:19that you have a big camera.

1:13:21Okay, here's my idea.

1:13:23Yeah?

1:13:24We'll go straight to the refugee camp.

1:13:27We don't need to take out the big camera.

1:13:29We'll film first before that.

1:13:31Because I'm worried that once we take out the big camera,

1:13:33they'll start...

1:13:35Yeah, making a fuss.

1:13:36So we'll use the hidden camera first.

1:13:38Go in and walk around like tourists.

1:13:41Bam, have a look,

1:13:42then we'll go and get assistance.

1:13:45Go to the police station.

1:13:46Go in with assistance and conduct interviews.

1:13:48Okay.

1:13:48Yeah, like that.

1:13:49Good idea?

1:13:49Good idea.

1:13:50Okay.

1:13:51But at first, we have to make it look like we're tourists.

1:13:52At the beginning.

1:13:53Yeah, we'll carry our bags and everything.

1:13:55We need a cover story.

1:13:57I want to go to the refugee camp.

1:13:59Then go to the tourist police?

1:14:01No, forget the tourist police.

1:14:03Yes.

1:14:03I want to go to the refugee camp.

1:14:05Refugee camp? Yes, yes, yes.

1:14:06Rohingya refugee camp.

1:14:08Yes, yes.

1:14:10One way or return?

1:14:11One way.

1:14:12One way?

1:14:14Take me there and wait for me there too, okay?

1:14:16But I'll go there first.

1:14:17Just go there now?

1:14:18Yeah, go. How much?

1:14:20One way, 1,500 BDT.

1:14:22Whoa?

1:14:23Yes. It's 35 km.

1:14:2635 kilometers?

1:14:27Yes, yes, yes.

1:14:28Very far.

1:14:29Yes.

1:14:30I can't ride in this.

1:14:31I need an air-conditioned car.

1:14:32A car?

1:14:33A car, yes.

1:14:34This one's a car, this one.

1:14:36There's a car over here.

1:14:37Over here, this one's a car.

1:14:39What? What?

1:14:40Malaysian stickers.

1:14:41Sarawak is spelled differently, Terengganu too.

1:14:44Kelantan, Penang.

1:14:45Negeri Sembilan.

1:14:46Whoa!

1:14:47Melaka, Perak, Perlis, Pahang,

1:14:49whoa.

1:14:50Crazy, this is rare!

1:14:51Hey, look at this.

1:14:53Look closer,

1:14:53guys. Is that the national emblem?

1:14:55Yeah.

1:14:56Unity is strength.

1:15:00May it bring more progress.

1:15:01Melaka, Negeri Sembilan.

1:15:04What's this? What's this?

1:15:05What's this?

1:15:07This is a sticker.

1:15:08Yeah? What's it for? What's it for?

1:15:11Gangster?

1:15:11I don't know. I don't understand.

1:15:12Oh, you don't understand.

1:15:15Market. Market.

1:15:16Huh?

1:15:16Village market, these stickers.

1:15:19Oh, market stickers?

1:15:21Oh, they're for sale. They sell them.

1:15:27Oh, this is my country.

1:15:29This is Malaysia?

1:15:30Malaysia. Yes, Malaysia.

1:15:34This is Pakistan.

1:15:36This is Pakistan?

1:15:38This is Malaysia, all of it is Malaysia.

1:15:41Terengganu is in Malaysia.

1:15:43It's like Dhaka.

1:15:45Cox's Bazar, Dhaka.

1:15:48Like the different states in Malaysia.

1:15:50But all the spellings...

1:15:51All the spellings are wrong.

1:15:53Oh.

1:15:57If we spelled them like this,

1:15:58they'd give us a hard slap.

1:15:59That's normal in Malaysia.

1:16:01Hahahaha!

1:16:03Can you help me find a car?

1:16:04A good car.

1:16:05The car is only 5,000 BDT.

1:16:081 way?

1:16:09[Tuktuk driver explains it to the car driver.]

1:16:131 way, 6,000 BDT.

1:16:15Huh?

1:16:156,000 BDT.

1:16:17How much for a round trip?

1:16:198,000 BDT

1:16:20I'll only come back at night.

1:16:21Okay, no problem.

1:16:23You go there and come back to Cox's Bazar.

1:16:268,000 BDT.

1:16:37300 BDT for you, 700 BDT for you.

1:16:46I'll give him 300 BDT.

1:16:48All right.

1:16:59Where are you from?

1:17:01My name? Name? Anwar! Anwar!

1:17:04Anwar?

1:17:06Assalamualaikum, Anwar.

1:17:07Waalaikumsalam.

1:17:10Isa, Isa.

1:17:10My name is Isa.

1:17:12My name is Ibrahim.

1:17:13Ibrahim.

1:17:14Yes, Ibrahim. Isa, Musa.

1:17:16Musa.

1:17:17He's Musa, he's Kadir.

1:17:21He's Abdullah.

1:17:23Abdullah?

1:17:23Abdullah.

1:17:25Your country is Malaysia?

1:17:27Malaysia.

1:17:27Yeah.

1:18:04No... the car can't go.

1:18:09The outside area isn't allowed.

1:18:11Yes, the refugee camp.

1:18:12The road to the camp is different.

1:18:14Along this road,

1:18:16there are refugee camps everywhere.

1:18:18Far, far away.

1:18:19[Unclear]

1:18:40Guys.

1:18:42We just received some news

1:18:44that's very disappointing.

1:18:45We're not allowed to approach the refugee camp.

1:18:47We can't even get close on foot.

1:18:49But it's okay, I'll keep trying.

1:18:51I'm also contacting my team.

1:18:54I asked them

1:18:56to speak with

1:18:58their Tourism Minister,

1:19:00the director.

1:19:01Deputy director.

1:19:02Minister or director?

1:19:04I don't understand.

1:19:05In Malaysia, we'd call them a minister,

1:19:07but here they're called a deputy director.

1:19:08So they're in a meeting now.

1:19:10Hopefully they'll allow us to enter.

1:19:12Because someone from their ministry

1:19:14gave us a response earlier.

1:19:15Do you know what he said?

1:19:16He'll try his best.

1:19:18After the meeting, he'll try to get approval.

1:19:20But this is a sensitive issue.

1:19:22It involves many parties.

1:19:24It's such a sensitive issue

1:19:26that even in Bangladesh, it's still sensitive.

1:19:34Yeah.

1:19:34They can provide refugee camps for the Rohingya,

1:19:37for the Rohingya. Right.

1:19:45Maybe they don't actually want

1:19:46to do this either. Who knows,

1:19:48maybe they're being forced to.

1:19:49That's what I think.

1:19:50I think there are 2 possibilities.

1:19:53One, uh... maybe there's a Muslim minister

1:19:57who cares about fellow Muslims,

1:19:59so he created the refugee camp.

1:20:00Or number 2,

1:20:02there's someone corrupt who received money

1:20:04from one side or another.

1:20:07Because when I watch documentaries

1:20:10about Afghanistan, Iraq and all that,

1:20:12yeah, foreign intervention,

1:20:14outside powers within a country,

1:20:18especially a third-world country, can be very powerful.

1:20:20They'll fund 1 political party.

1:20:24They'll provide money

1:20:25to bring in foreign migrants,

1:20:28because they want to make it look

1:20:29like they're solving another country's problem.

1:20:31Do you understand?

1:20:32So maybe something like that is happening.

1:20:34But we don't want to accuse anyone. Why?

1:20:36Because when people do something good,

1:20:38our first thought

1:20:39should always be to assume the best.

1:20:41Yeah. We shouldn't be negative from the start.

1:20:43Because they've already done something good, yet you're thinking,

1:20:45"Oh, they're corrupt."

1:20:46"They're... this and that..." That's not right.

1:20:48Unless we have evidence

1:20:49or there's an article or something.

1:20:52Because when we think negatively,

1:20:54what's going to happen?

1:20:55We're promoting something bad.

1:20:57Eventually, even people doing good things

1:20:58will start thinking,

1:20:59"Man, there's no point in me doing good."

1:21:01People misunderstand them.

1:21:02Do you understand?

1:21:03Then eventually there'll be more

1:21:04people doing bad things.

1:21:06Rohingya market.

1:21:07Rohingya market?

1:21:09Yes.

1:21:09Okay, wait. I want to take a look.

1:21:10Wait, wait, wait, wait.

1:21:11I want to get out.

1:21:13Rohingya market.

1:21:15Maybe we just can't enter the refugee camp,

1:21:18but the village...

1:21:19This is the refugee camp.

1:21:21Where? Where?

1:21:22[Unclear]

1:21:27He's mixing his language with English.

1:21:30Okay. Market?

1:21:33Here, there are houses available.

1:21:35Yes, this car.

1:21:37This one, picture. Okay?

1:21:39Picture?

1:21:41Camera. Picture.

1:21:43Oh, picture, picture.

1:21:45Oh yes, picture.

1:21:52Hello, Yam.

1:21:52Hello, sir.

1:21:53Yes, sir.

1:21:54What did the minister say?

1:21:55Okay, so he's currently

1:21:56contacting them now.

1:21:57Because he said we need

1:21:58several levels of approval.

1:22:00The Ministry of Foreign Affairs,

1:22:02approval from the local district,

1:22:04and also the people managing the refugee camp there.

1:22:08So basically,

1:22:08the United Nations.

1:22:10Yeah. Yeah, I understand.

1:22:11So he said the important thing is...

1:22:16He'll try his best.

1:22:17He's trying his best

1:22:18to get approval right now.

1:22:21He strongly recommends

1:22:22that you all bring someone with you.

1:22:25Apparently, that's just how

1:22:26you get around in Bangladesh.

1:22:27You need someone

1:22:28to take you around.

1:22:29Yes.

1:22:30He suggested a taxi...

1:22:33So I've asked him to give me the phone number

1:22:34of someone in Cox's Bazar.

1:22:36Yeah.

1:22:37So they can meet our team there.

1:22:40Okay, sure. If he has someone there,

1:22:42we can pay them to take us around,

1:22:44whatever it takes,

1:22:46as long as we get approval as soon as possible.

1:22:47Yeah, like that.

1:22:48All right, sir.

1:22:51Okay, thank you, sir.

1:22:52Okay. Thank you.

1:22:53Man...

1:22:55The UN too. There are layers of approval.

1:22:57So many layers.

1:22:59There are so many layers.

1:23:00Why does everyone look so unhappy?

1:23:03Huh?

1:23:04Those who go to Malaysia get yelled at too.

1:23:07They get scolded at the airport, right?

1:23:09They're already used to this kind of culture.

1:23:13But I feel sorry for them.

1:23:13I feel sorry for them.

1:23:14Just relaxing and taking it easy like this

1:23:16is considered bad here.

1:23:18Is everyone here Rohingya now?

1:23:20Huh?

1:23:22Here?

1:23:23Yes. Everyone in this market is Rohingya now.

1:23:27Oh!

1:23:29No wonder they're starting to look pretty intimidating.

1:23:34Whoa, whoa, whoa.

1:23:36Oh, are all these people Rohingya?

1:23:38Yes.

1:23:39Oh, look.

1:23:40They look happy living here.

1:23:43So why do they go all the way to Malaysia?

1:23:46Where's the stress? Of course life is hard.

1:23:48No. If they say they're stressed,

1:23:49people getting angry at them here is stressful too.

1:23:51They're doing business just fine, even smoking cigarettes.

1:23:53Everything looks fine.

1:23:53Yeah.

1:23:54Maybe life is difficult,

1:23:56but that's just part of life.

1:23:58Life is hard wherever you are.

1:24:01Yeah.

1:24:02Even if they aim high, what would they buy?

1:24:04Exactly.

1:24:06Because they don't come

1:24:07directly from Myanmar, you know.

1:24:08They come from here

1:24:09to Malaysia. Most of them come from here.

1:24:12Oh, not directly from Myanmar?

1:24:13No. They come from Myanmar to here.

1:24:16Oh, and then from here they go to Malaysia?

1:24:18Yeah, they go from here to Malaysia.

1:24:20The ones causing trouble.

1:24:22Yeah.

1:24:23Oh, right.

1:24:25Oh, right. You can tell this isn't Bangladesh.

1:24:27This really doesn't look like Bangladesh.

1:24:29Yeah, they really do look Rohingya.

1:24:30Oh, it's like we're back in Malaysia.

1:24:31Now we can already tell who's Rohingya.

1:24:55Wait, wait, wait, wait.

1:24:56Wait!

1:24:57I want to go over there.

1:24:59Wait. Stop, stop.

1:25:00Okay, get out. Get out, get out, get out.

1:25:02Man, this is good. It doesn't look too crowded here.

1:25:03There don't seem to be too many people here. This looks nice.

1:25:05Let's try asking them.

1:25:06We'll start from deeper inside,

1:25:09in a more secluded area.

1:25:11Awie, don't show your face at all, okay?

1:25:14For 7 km, everyone is Rohingya.

1:25:17Everyone is Rohingya?

1:25:21Oh!

1:25:23Everyone is Rohingya.

1:25:25The Bangladeshi military guards this area.

1:25:31The Rohingya aren't allowed to leave this area.

1:25:38Oh, okay, okay, okay.

1:25:41So only this area?

1:25:42If they leave, they get arrested?

1:25:46Oh, that means

1:25:47the Rohingya

1:25:48aren't allowed to leave the area...

1:25:50the designated area. This is their area.

1:25:52They can't leave this area.

1:25:54That means if they leave,

1:25:55they'll be arrested.

1:25:58If they leave, they get arrested.

1:26:00What camera is that?

1:26:01Do you want to go into the refugee camp?

1:26:03Yes.

1:26:05[Driver explains it to the man.]

1:26:16[They speak in Bangladeshi.]

1:26:22How many hours do you want to spend inside the refugee camp?

1:26:27Only 1 hour.

1:26:29Enough?

1:26:30No. Too long.

1:26:31Too long?

1:26:32Yes, how long is allowed?

1:26:35Only 30 minutes.

1:26:36Only 30 minutes?

1:26:37Can we?

1:26:38Yes.

1:26:40Only 30 minutes.

1:26:4130 minutes?

1:26:42Go in, then come out.

1:26:44Are you a journalist?

1:26:46Yes, yes, journalist.

1:26:47Yes, journalist.

1:26:50Yes, journalist.

1:26:51Yes, can you...

1:26:52Can you show me around?

1:26:53I'll show you around for only 30 minutes.

1:26:58Okay. Okay.

1:27:01Take some videos and some pictures,

1:27:06and then we'll leave.

1:27:07Leave? Okay, okay.

1:27:12SUII!!

1:27:14Do you know Ronaldo?

1:27:19This is seriously dangerous for you, you know.

1:27:20You still look like Awie.

1:27:22Really?

1:27:24I'm worried you'll get mobbed.

1:27:25Are you sure?

1:27:27But I don't want to stop you from doing anything.

1:27:29I'm worried. I'm worried about your safety.

1:27:31God willing, it'll be okay.

1:27:32God willing, it'll be okay, right?

1:27:34Whatever happens is...

1:27:35Yes, exactly. It's my risk.

1:27:37Your risk, huh.

1:27:38Because we've already come this far.

1:27:40It would be a waste not to experience it.

1:27:42If I were you, I'd be scared.

1:27:44Because people will definitely be able to recognize you.

1:27:46Even when I disguise myself as someone else in Malaysia,

1:27:48people can still recognize me

1:27:49by my voice.

1:27:54Don't go to the camp. Don't take the risk.

1:28:00Here, talk to the military.

1:28:02I want to see the culture.

1:28:03Culture, culture.

1:28:05[Interpreter explains in Bangladeshi.]

1:28:18Yes. Okay, let's go.

1:28:22Not here. Over there.

1:28:25Okay. Follow us.

1:28:28I want to bring him with us in our car.

1:28:36Okay? Okay.

1:28:39What's your name?

1:28:39My name is Paru.

1:28:41Paru?

1:28:42Yes, Muhammad Paru.

1:28:43Muhammad Paru?

1:28:44Yes.

1:28:46We're going to...

1:28:51No, come here. Yeah.

1:28:54So, what's your name?

1:28:55My name is Muhammad Faruk.

1:28:56Muhammad Faruk.

1:28:58Yeah.

1:28:58How old are you?

1:29:00I'm 22 years old.

1:29:01Where did you learn English?

1:29:03School...

1:29:05Primary school.

1:29:06You learned English from primary school?

1:29:08I want to know. Uh...

1:29:11How many people are here?

1:29:13Rohingya people.

1:29:14Maybe 12 lakh.

1:29:1712 lakh? So 1.2 million.

1:29:19Okay, 1.2 million, yes, 12 lakh.

1:29:24New arrivals, 2 lakh.

1:29:25Huh?

1:29:26New arrivals, 2 lakh.

1:29:27Huh? 2 lakh? Oh.

1:29:29After...

1:29:31After what?

1:29:31After 1 year.

1:29:33After 1 year?

1:29:34Yes, the year 2000?

1:29:362027.

1:29:37Oh, sorry. 20... 2017.

1:29:412017?

1:29:42Yes. A lot of people.

1:29:46Yes, yes.

1:29:472017, a massive displacement.

1:29:50Yes.

1:29:51The Arakan Army,

1:29:53yes, the Arakan Army and the government.

1:29:58The government army.

1:30:01Oh, what do you do here? Work?

1:30:03Work? I don't...

1:30:06I don't work.

1:30:06So how do you get money?

1:30:09WHO provides food.

1:30:13Who?

1:30:14WHO. World Health Organization.

1:30:16Oh, WHO!

1:30:19A little food. Yes.

1:30:21Not a lot of food.

1:30:23Okay. WHO gives you a little food,

1:30:26just enough to survive, basically.

1:30:28Okay. WHO provides food.

1:30:45If you ask, sir...

1:30:47If you get sick,

1:30:51if you're sick, where do you go?

1:30:54Primary medical center.

1:30:56Oh, there's primary healthcare? WHO?

1:30:59No. Another organization.

1:31:02Oh, another organization. Okay.

1:31:05If the illness is serious,

1:31:07you need to get treatment outside.

1:31:09Oh, okay.

1:31:10Okay, okay, okay, okay.

1:31:13Okay.

1:31:14This is the latest information.

1:31:15This is the latest information. Yes.

1:31:18We can learn all sorts of things

1:31:19about this place from this kid.

1:31:20Because he uses ChatGPT.

1:31:22Yeah.

1:31:22So he's really...

1:31:24He's really modern.

1:31:25A modern Rohingya.

1:31:26RM, RM.

1:31:27Like Malaysian Ringgit.

1:31:28He's a modern Rohingya.

1:31:29He's RM!

1:31:30Man, if we go in there with the camera,

1:31:32I'm worried it'll get stolen.

1:31:35Move. Move. Move.

1:31:37Okay. Okay. Okay.

1:31:40Safe?

1:31:44Let's give him a microphone, bro.

1:31:46Tell him when we go in, don't talk too much.

1:31:48Don't do anything.

1:31:48Hey, brother.

1:31:49Let's give him a microphone, okay?

1:31:51Do you want to do an interview?

1:31:541 person or 2 people?

1:31:56Okay, okay.

1:31:57Find me someone

1:31:58who knows English.

1:31:59No English.

1:32:00They only know Rohingya.

1:32:01Okay.

1:32:03Okay, you tell me.

1:32:04Oh, is this the camp?

1:32:07This is the camp.

1:32:08Yes.

1:32:08Oh!

1:32:11Here, here, inside.

1:32:14Is it safe?

1:32:16Yes, you're safe now.

1:32:18Should I use the big camera or the small camera?

1:32:23The small camera is better.

1:32:25Better?

1:32:26Okay. Come here. Come here.

1:32:27No, no, no.

1:32:28Huh? No. I want to change cameras.

1:32:31Yeah, Iman, come here.

1:32:321 person stays here.

1:32:34Okay, no problem.

1:32:35If anything bad

1:32:36happens to me inside,

1:32:38I'll contact him.

1:32:39Take him to the police station, okay?

1:32:41Okay. No problem.

1:32:42Okay? Okay.

1:32:43Okay. You wait inside.

1:32:46If anything happens later, okay?

1:32:48For example, if anything happens,

1:32:49if we get detained here,

1:32:50I'll WhatsApp you.

1:32:52"Iman, danger," okay?

1:32:53Go straight to the police station.

1:32:55Tell them.

1:32:56We're from the media.

1:32:58The media. And we're being detained inside the refugee camp.

1:33:01Okay, okay.

1:33:03All right, okay? Hand over all the stuff.

1:33:36So, right now,

1:33:38I've prepared all the equipment

1:33:40for secretly recording.

1:33:43Hopefully everything goes well.

1:33:44Oh God, this is dangerous.

1:33:45Seriously, it's dangerous.

1:33:47Awie, he was staring at your face for ages earlier.

1:33:52I think this is dangerous, Awie.

1:33:58Okay, there's no way we'd normally be able to get in here.

1:34:01There's no way we'd be able to just enter the place we want to enter.

1:34:04We're risking our lives here.

1:34:05It's insanely difficult to get in.

1:34:07I'm risking my life.

1:34:08Seriously, I'm risking my life.

1:34:13Hey, what's up with that kid?

1:34:17That kid isn't wearing any clothes at all.

1:34:20Cox's Bazar is a district in southeastern Bangladesh.

1:34:24It borders Myanmar.

1:34:25It is famous for its natural beach,

1:34:27one of the longest in the world,

1:34:29but further inland in this district

1:34:31lies the world's largest refugee camp.

1:34:33It is home to Rohingya refugees.

1:34:35More than 930,000 people live

1:34:38across 33 interconnected camps

1:34:40covering an area of only about 24 km².

1:34:44Its population density is higher than Dhaka,

1:34:46one of the most crowded cities in the world.

1:34:48Nearly 200,000 families

1:34:50live in self-built shelters

1:34:52made from bamboo and plastic sheeting.

1:34:54Each shelter costs around $1,200 USD,

1:34:57but they cannot withstand heavy rain,

1:35:00floods and landslides.

1:35:01Every year, from June to October,

1:35:03the monsoon season destroys many shelters

1:35:05and forces families to rebuild them.

1:35:07When it rains,

1:35:08the solar panels receive no sunlight

1:35:10and their shelters remain dark throughout the night.

1:35:13The United Nations

1:35:14states that each person

1:35:15needs at least

1:35:1645 m² of living space.

1:35:19Only 6 of the 33 camps meet this standard,

1:35:23while 24 camps are at critical levels,

1:35:25with 29 m² or less per person.

1:35:29The most crowded is Camp 3,

1:35:31with only 12 m² per person,

1:35:33an area of 3.5 m X 3.5 m,

1:35:36about the size of a bedroom.

1:35:38In such a small space, they sleep,

1:35:41cook and live their entire lives.

1:35:43Some families of 11 people share 1 shelter.

1:35:46The toilets in these camps

1:35:47are communal toilets shared by many people.

1:35:49According to UNHCR standards,

1:35:511 toilet should be shared by

1:35:53no more than 20 people

1:35:54during an emergency,

1:35:55and in the long term,

1:35:561 toilet should be provided for each family.

1:35:58However, 19 of the 33 camps

1:36:01exceed this limit.

1:36:02At Kutupalong Camp,

1:36:03an average of 54 people share 1 toilet.

1:36:06Many toilets overflow and have no lighting,

1:36:08making them unusable.

1:36:10The bathing facilities are small cubicles

1:36:12scattered throughout the camps.

1:36:14The United Nations standard

1:36:15is 50 people per 1 bathing facility.

1:36:17At Kutupalong,

1:36:18which houses nearly 18,000 residents,

1:36:20an average of 224 people share 1 bathing facility.

1:36:24For water,

1:36:25the United Nations standard

1:36:26is 1 water source

1:36:27for every 80 people.

1:36:2922 of the 33 camps

1:36:31meet this standard,

1:36:33but at Camp 22 and Nayapara Camp,

1:36:35the number of users per water source

1:36:37is more than 10 times the limit.

1:36:39Children and women line up at hand-pump wells

1:36:42amid shouting

1:36:42to get drinking water every day.

1:36:44When the rainy season arrives,

1:36:46floods contaminate the water

1:36:47and damage basic facilities.

1:36:49Overcrowding and poor sanitation

1:36:51allow diseases to spread easily:

1:36:52dengue, waterborne diseases

1:36:54and skin infections occur

1:36:56in almost every family.

1:36:57Doctors Without Borders reported

1:36:59the largest scabies outbreak ever recorded,

1:37:01infecting more than 40% of camp residents,

1:37:04more than 400,000 people.

1:37:06This is the daily life

1:37:07of nearly 1,000,000 people in Cox's Bazar:

1:37:09cramped living spaces,

1:37:10toilets shared by dozens of people,

1:37:12limited water

1:37:14and bamboo shelters that must endure

1:37:16every rainy season.

1:37:19Oh, is this a mosque?

1:37:21Yes.

1:37:21A mosque?

1:37:22Oh.

1:37:23Can I go inside the mosque?

1:37:27Is that the mosque?

1:37:30It's locked.

1:37:31Locked? Oh, okay, okay.

1:37:33This is a water tank.

1:37:36This is from ADB.

1:37:40The ADB organization? Oh, a water tank.

1:37:431 water tank for all these houses?

1:37:46Yes.

1:37:48What about pipes? No pipes?

1:37:54So, this is a new shop.

1:37:55What kind of shop is this?

1:37:58Huh? Oh.

1:38:00A coffee shop, that shop.

1:38:01Coffee shop.

1:38:02Okay, when did you come here?

1:38:05When? 2000?

1:38:111992.

1:38:141992?

1:38:15Yes.

1:38:16Whoa!

1:38:17Okay, see you again. Love you.

1:38:21Chai, chai.

1:38:23Do you have chai?

1:38:24Chai, chai.

1:38:25I want to try chai.

1:38:27Assalamualaikum.

1:38:28Teh tarik.

1:38:28Whoa, their version of teh tarik.

1:38:30Hey, do you have chai, chai?

1:38:32No, no, no, no.

1:38:33No chai?

1:38:35Yeah, teh tarik.

1:38:36What am I supposed to ask him?

1:38:37What should I say to him?

1:38:43Okay, come here.

1:38:47Err... bhai.

1:38:50[Isa tries speaking Bangla]

1:38:58Yeah, that, that! Chai. Chai!

1:39:02Whoa, the chai is good. The chai is good.

1:39:05This is good stuff.

1:39:07Whoa! Delicious.

1:39:08Hahahaha!

1:39:11Good stuff.

1:39:15Whoa!

1:39:17How is it?

1:39:18Is it good?

1:39:19Want to try?

1:39:20Oh, it's delicious!

1:39:21Hahahaha!

1:39:23Whoa!

1:39:24We're the biggest gangsters, you know.

1:39:25In 2015, we won for being the biggest gangsters.

1:39:27You look over here, okay.

1:39:28Don't look over there.

1:39:29Bismillah, bismillah.

1:39:30We're among the toughest people around.

1:39:32Because we entered their camp.

1:39:34We can just chill and have a drink.

1:39:36We can just chill and drink teh tarik.

1:39:39Among the toughest people around.

1:39:45Whoa!

1:39:46Thank you.

1:39:47Thank you.

1:39:58Very good.

1:40:02Thank you. I love you.

1:40:06Man, what if there had been a camera earlier?

1:40:08It would've been even more crowded.

1:40:09Whoa! Malay again.

1:40:11Malay?

1:40:13Can you speak Malay?

1:40:14He's my friend. My friend.

1:40:19Where do you live?

1:40:20Here. I live here now.

1:40:21Oh, okay, okay, okay.

1:40:23Malaysia?

1:40:24Yes. Where did you live in Malaysia?

1:40:26Ipoh.

1:40:27Ipoh? Perak.

1:40:30Don't make a sound, Awie.

1:40:33It's dangerous. We don't know.

1:40:38It's not that bad.

1:40:41It's okay.

1:40:45Yeah, I want to know what

1:40:47life is like for the Rohingya here.

1:40:49These are all Rohingya.

1:40:51These are all Rohingya.

1:40:55All Rohingya?

1:40:56Yes, all Rohingya.

1:40:58Ohh!

1:41:00How long has this village been here?

1:41:02This? A very long time.

1:41:04It's been 35 years.

1:41:0735 years?

1:41:09Oh, how did you manage to come back here?

1:41:11After going to Malaysia.

1:41:12How did you come here?

1:41:13My father, my mother.

1:41:14They're all from Myanmar, right?

1:41:15They came back to Bangladesh 35 years ago.

1:41:19Yeah.

1:41:22No. You, how did you

1:41:23learn to speak Malay?

1:41:24I used to be in Malaysia. 3 years.

1:41:263 years?

1:41:27How did you come back here?

1:41:29I bought a flight ticket.

1:41:30By plane?

1:41:31You came here?

1:41:32Yeah, did immigration send you here, or did you come yourself?

1:41:35I left on my own.

1:41:37Huh?

1:41:40What did you use? A UN card or something?

1:41:42No, I stayed in Malaysia undocumented.

1:41:44He's my friend.

1:41:45Oh, you stayed in Malaysia undocumented?

1:41:48Then how did you come here?

1:41:49What did you use? A passport?

1:41:50No. Passport? Nothing?

1:41:52I came back.

1:41:54I'm from here, right?

1:41:56Yeah.

1:41:58Oh, you got a Bangladeshi passport?

1:41:59Immigration.

1:42:02Immigration?

1:42:06Bus?

1:42:06Yes. Yes.

1:42:07How did you get on the plane?

1:42:09Did you use a Bangladeshi passport?

1:42:10When I came back to Bangladesh, right?

1:42:12Yeah.

1:42:12My father and mother are here, right?

1:42:15Yeah.

1:42:15That's a Bangladeshi ID card, right?

1:42:17Yeah.

1:42:18His people sent it to Malaysia.

1:42:21He got a passport made there.

1:42:22Oh! Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

1:42:26Oh, he has an ID card here.

1:42:28So, they sent it to Malaysia.

1:42:29You got the passport made there.

1:42:31After getting the passport, you flew here.

1:42:32Oh, so you didn't get caught by immigration?

1:42:35Oh! I understand, I understand, I understand.

1:42:38Whoa! Hahahaha!

1:42:39You're awesome.

1:42:40Brother, he's my friend.

1:42:41Call him over here.

1:42:44Yeah. Yeah.

1:42:46Where should I go?

1:42:47Where are we going?

1:42:48Let's take him somewhere a little quieter.

1:42:50You want to look around, right?

1:42:52Yeah, I want to look around.

1:42:54Scan the WhatsApp QR code.

1:42:56WhatsApp, WhatsApp.

1:42:57Should I take him?

1:42:58Yes.

1:42:59Okay, follow me.

1:43:02I want to go eat.

1:43:04I want to take him with me.

1:43:05He can speak Malay.

1:43:08He can speak my language.

1:43:10Okay.

1:43:10I want to take him for an interview.

1:43:12Okay, no problem.

1:43:14Okay, let's go.

1:43:15Let's get in.

1:43:15Give it to him. Give it to him.

1:43:19Hahahaha!

1:43:22Just like that, brother.

1:43:23Brother, brother.

1:43:25Whoa, you're pretty muscular too.

1:43:27I flew the drone and got all the shots.

1:43:29He wouldn't let any of the kids come near me.

1:43:31He chased them all away.

1:43:33Why is everyone gathering around?

1:43:35Well, they're looking at the Malaysians.

1:43:39Ohh!

1:43:40They're all happy.

1:43:41They're happy?

1:43:43They're happy.

1:43:44You're all from another country.

1:43:47That's why they're happy.

1:43:50When Malaysians see me as a Rohingya,

1:43:51they don't check.

1:43:54How many years were you in Malaysia?

1:43:56Er, 2.

1:43:582 years and 5 months.

1:44:012 years and you're already good at speaking Malay.

1:44:02Yes, I'm good at speaking Malay.

1:44:03Yes, my boss.

1:44:05My boss.

1:44:06My boss was Malay.

1:44:08My boss.

1:44:10You learned quickly. Yeah.

1:44:11Hey, what do you think I should see

1:44:14in this Rohingya town?

1:44:16What should I see?

1:44:17What else should I see around here?

1:44:20What should I see?

1:44:22I'm the person from

1:44:24there.

1:44:25Earlier?

1:44:25Yeah.

1:44:26That's done already.

1:44:27What else is there?

1:44:28Something else... That...

1:44:30Where is their school?

1:44:31Where is the Rohingya school?

1:44:33Oh, the Rohingya school is over there. All of them.

1:44:35Yes, inside. There aren't any outside.

1:44:37Can I see their school?

1:44:39The ones here are Bengali.

1:44:41I have a school here.

1:44:42There, no...

1:44:43You can't go in there?

1:44:45No. You can go in there.

1:44:46But that's a registered camp.

1:44:48You can enter a registered camp.

1:44:50I don't know about other places.

1:44:51The police make things difficult.

1:44:53Look at all this.

1:44:55It's the market.

1:44:56This is how it is 24 hours a day.

1:44:58It's like this 24 hours a day?

1:44:59Yes, like this.

1:45:00Oh!

1:45:01It's the same even through the night.

1:45:03Even past 2 at night.

1:45:06Look at this restaurant.

1:45:08This is open 24 hours. Like that.

1:45:10This one too?

1:45:11No. This one closes.

1:45:12People like it. Look.

1:45:14This is where my brother works.

1:45:16Oh yeah, a restaurant?

1:45:18Yes, this restaurant.

1:45:18This restaurant is really good.

1:45:20Boss, park here. I want to go to the restaurant.

1:45:22Food. Food. Yum, yum, yum.

1:45:27This is the best one around here.

1:45:30Restaurant. There's no restaurant.

1:45:36I want food from a Rohingya restaurant.

1:45:38[Young man explains to the driver]

1:45:42Rohingya food.

1:45:43[Young man explains to the driver]

1:46:02What did he say?

1:46:03A lot of problems. A lot of problems.

1:46:05This is going to cause problems.

1:46:06The problem is,

1:46:10in Bangladesh, you need a permit. You don't have one.

1:46:12Do you have a permit?

1:46:12Yes. I have a permit. Tourist.

1:46:14No. Tourists aren't allowed.

1:46:16Not tourist. Tourism...

1:46:19You can't enter the Rohingya area.

1:46:20It's about culture now. Learning about the culture.

1:46:22Food, beautiful places, schools.

1:46:25Clinics. Things like that.

1:46:26Not refugees. Understand?

1:46:33Okay, I have police protecting me.

1:46:37Talk to him. I have...

1:46:40He said if the police give you any trouble,

1:46:43that's your own problem.

1:46:44He doesn't want to get involved.

1:46:46He doesn't want to get involved?

1:46:48Okay, okay.

1:46:48Talk to him.

1:46:50I've already spoken to the deputy director

1:46:52of the tourism board.

1:46:54Whoa! Whoa!

1:46:56Awesome!

1:47:05There's only this to eat.

1:47:07Then we'll see.

1:47:08I want Rohingya food.

1:47:13Whoa, there's a room.

1:47:15There's a room.

1:47:18Let's go, Awie.

1:47:21Do you want something sweet or spicy?

1:47:23Eat what?

1:47:24Sweet or spicy?

1:47:25Spicy.

1:47:28I'm surprised. Looking around here,

1:47:32when I was living in Malaysia,

1:47:34I thought all the Rohingya were fenced in.

1:47:37All the Rohingya villages?

1:47:40Fenced in. Like there are walls.

1:47:42Everything is closed off.

1:47:43Yes. Everything is closed off.

1:47:44It's closed off like that.

1:47:46But it's not completely closed. They can get out.

1:47:48They can go to the market.

1:47:49Yes, they can.

1:47:50Oh, they can.

1:47:51Then why do they come to Malaysia?

1:47:52There are gates. Small gates, right?

1:47:54Small ones, there are gates, right?

1:47:56Those are all closed. Look.

1:47:57There are Rohingya people all over there, right?

1:47:59It's all closed off there. There are small gates.

1:48:03But people sneak back in.

1:48:04They sneak inside.

1:48:06They sneak out, things like that.

1:48:07Yeah, oh!

1:48:08I thought they couldn't get out.

1:48:09I don't think they're actually allowed to leave.

1:48:11It's very difficult for the Rohingya.

1:48:13There are a lot of Rohingya who've been here a long time.

1:48:15There are rebel refugees and all sorts of people here, right?

1:48:18There are a lot of people.

1:48:19Life is very difficult for people here.

1:48:22The police are the same too.

1:48:23Look, if you can give them food,

1:48:27they'll meet with you.

1:48:29If you don't give them food,

1:48:30if you don't give them money, they don't like you.

1:48:32The police are the same too.

1:48:34Where are the businesspeople? Go take a look.

1:48:37It's very difficult.

1:48:38This is my brother.

1:48:40Oh, your brother?

1:48:40Yes, this is my brother.

1:48:41He's fair-skinned, while I'm dark, right?

1:48:44Your faces look different. Why are you dark?

1:48:46Because of work. I work out in the heat.

1:48:48He works under a fan.

1:48:50Yes.

1:48:52Whoa, bro, this looks delicious.

1:48:53Can I have this?

1:48:55Is it chicken or what?

1:48:57What kind of chicken is that?

1:48:58I don't like chicken.

1:48:59Is the chicken already cooked?

1:49:00Old chicken?

1:49:02No, no.

1:49:04No.

1:49:05This is free-range chicken.

1:49:07This is the real thing.

1:49:10Whoa! It's like meat!

1:49:16There's one thing I want to know.

1:49:17Why leave this place?

1:49:18This place is already beautiful, right?

1:49:21It's really beautiful, isn't it?

1:49:22This place is beautiful, right?

1:49:23Beautiful.

1:49:24If it's beautiful, why do people leave and go to Malaysia?

1:49:27Here, people's wages

1:49:30are very low.

1:49:31Look, for 1 day of work,

1:49:33they pay people 400 BDT, 300 BDT.

1:49:36In Malaysian Ringgit, that's RM10, RM15.

1:49:40Something like that.

1:49:41But there are many other countries with higher wages.

1:49:44Why Malaysia?

1:49:44Why don't you go to the United States,

1:49:47or Europe? Wages are higher there.

1:49:48Yeah. It's easier to go to Malaysia.

1:49:51It's easier to go to Malaysia, bro.

1:49:53Easier? What do you mean by easier?

1:49:56[Unclear]

1:49:59Yeah. By boat. By boat.

1:50:01I think it's a little easier for them to go there.

1:50:04America and Australia are far away.

1:50:08They're far away, that's why.

1:50:09But there are also people from Arakan, right?

1:50:14He had the chance to go to the United States,

1:50:16but he didn't want to go to America.

1:50:18There are Rohingya people in America too.

1:50:20There are some in Canada and the United States.

1:50:22There are some in New Zealand too. They're everywhere.

1:50:25Here, ah, that's Indonesia, right?

1:50:27In Indonesia, they send them there.

1:50:29UN?

1:50:30They send the good people?

1:50:32They send the good people.

1:50:33They don't send the gangsters?

1:50:34No. Hahahaha!

1:50:36But what do you think,

1:50:38out of all the countries Rohingya people go to,

1:50:41which country is the best to go to?

1:50:44The best country. The one with the nicest people?

1:50:46I came back from Malaysia on my own, right?

1:50:49I enjoyed Malaysia.

1:50:50Oh, you enjoyed Malaysia?

1:50:51But there's a problem in Malaysia now, you know.

1:50:54Yes, problems with the Rohingya?

1:50:55Malaysians don't want Rohingya people anymore.

1:50:57They don't like Rohingya people.

1:50:58Have you seen that?

1:50:59Why? What happened?

1:51:00I don't know. I'm the same too.

1:51:02People don't like Rohingya.

1:51:05What's your plan?

1:51:07Do you want to stay here for a long time?

1:51:09Or do you have a plan?

1:51:10What do you want to do?

1:51:12I have a plan. Another country.

1:51:14You want to go to another country?

1:51:15Which country?

1:51:16If the Indonesians

1:51:18help me, my people can go.

1:51:21You'd go if they helped you?

1:51:23If they don't help, I can't go.

1:51:25But where are you planning to go?

1:51:27I have a plan.

1:51:28My plan is to go to America.

1:51:32You have a plan?

1:51:34If they send me, I have a plan.

1:51:36If I have to do it myself, I can't.

1:51:37You can't stay here for a long time on your own?

1:51:39No.

1:51:40I can't go to Canada or America on my own.

1:51:45I can't go on my own.

1:51:46He can't leave on his own

1:51:49unless he goes by boat and all that.

1:51:53I've already asked how...

1:51:55he survived in Malaysia.

1:51:58How much is this?

1:52:00Good food is cheap, around RM70.

1:52:06This. This.

1:52:08This is meat, chicken, rice.

1:52:12[Man speaks Bangla]

1:52:22150 BDT. 150 BDT.

1:52:28That's cheap.

1:52:30Can I ask one more question?

1:52:321 more.

1:52:33Just 1.

1:52:35You live here, right?

1:52:36Yes.

1:52:36Does the Bangladeshi government help?

1:52:40Does the Bangladeshi government provide any help?

1:52:42Food, money, anything?

1:52:45The Bangladeshi government?

1:52:47For me?

1:52:48For Rohingya people.

1:52:50Yes. Yes.

1:52:50They help?

1:52:51Yes. For 1 person...

1:52:55A family of 5 people, right?

1:52:57Yeah, they give 700 BDT per person.

1:53:00They give that?

1:53:01Yes, they do.

1:53:02Every month?

1:53:04Oh!

1:53:06Like zakat?

1:53:08700, and there are others too.

1:53:10There are people who can't work.

1:53:12There's assistance for disabled people.

1:53:141,000 BDT. Something like that.

1:53:16Whoa, the Bangladeshi government is good.

1:53:18That's for 1 month, not 1 day.

1:53:201 month, yes.

1:53:23How do they give it to you?

1:53:24Do you have to fill in a form or something?

1:53:26They have that, yeah, look... what is it?

1:53:29Online?

1:53:30Yes, online. Online.

1:53:31Oh, online.

1:53:31You go there, fill in the form, names and everything.

1:53:34Oh!

1:53:34Guys, next, I have 1 idea.

1:53:38How about we go to their market

1:53:40and see for ourselves

1:53:41what kinds of businesses they have.

1:53:42Their markets? Nice.

1:53:44Okay.

1:53:45Let's go to the market.

1:53:47I want to see what

1:53:48kinds of businesses there are.

1:53:49Market. Market.

1:53:49Yes. Yes. Yes.

1:53:52Yeah. Okay.

1:53:54Everyone, watch your pockets.

1:53:56Yeah.

1:54:03Watch your pockets.

1:54:05Watch your back pockets.

1:54:09Make sure you're safe. Okay?

1:54:11Okay.

1:54:12Watch your back pocket.

1:54:14Oh, my back pocket? Okay.

1:54:16There are a lot of things like this here.

1:54:19Is this okay? Can I bring the camera?

1:54:21Camera, okay?

1:54:22Yeah, that's fine. Okay.

1:54:25Okay.

1:54:26Yeah. We've reached the market. This is their market.

1:54:28Market. Yeah!

1:54:30Okay.

1:54:33There are a lot of traffic jams in Bangladesh.

1:54:34A lot of traffic jams, huh? Yeah.

1:54:37This is called a tongtong.

1:54:39Tongtong? Ohh!

1:54:40This is a bus.

1:54:42Where does this bus go?

1:54:44This bus goes to Dhaka.

1:54:47If you take the bus, won't the police stop you?

1:54:50No.

1:54:51Oh, is this a Bangladeshi ambulance?

1:54:53Yes. It's a Bangladeshi ambulance.

1:54:56Oh, it comes in here?

1:54:57Yes. There's someone inside now.

1:55:02Oh.

1:55:03This is called ainsi here.

1:55:06It's from Myanmar.

1:55:08We have this in Malaysia.

1:55:10A lot? A lot?

1:55:12Here, it's called ainsi.

1:55:14How do you eat it?

1:55:16If you want to eat it, you have to cook it.

1:55:17Oh, cook it.

1:55:20Whoa! Real sugarcane!

1:55:22Real sugarcane!

1:55:24Hey, I want some. Can you help me order it?

1:55:27I want sugarcane juice.

1:55:29To drink?

1:55:30Drink.

1:55:54Strong!

1:55:56It really tastes like sugarcane. Pure sugarcane.

1:55:59Whoa! It's not too sweet. Okay.

1:56:04Woo!

1:56:05Thirsty, huh?

1:56:06Someone's thirsty. Hahahaha!

1:56:09Crazy, crazy!

1:56:10Hahahaha!

1:56:11Is it good?

1:56:12Delicious!

1:56:13Want some more?

1:56:14Huh?

1:56:15Eh, it's okay. It's okay.

1:56:16Hahahaha!

1:56:22What else should I see at the market?

1:56:23Let's go inside, bro.

1:56:25Go inside, okay.

1:56:25Let's go inside this market.

1:56:27Bro, go past him.

1:56:29Oh, everyone has a business here?

1:56:30Yes, businesses. There are all kinds of businesses.

1:56:32There are Rohingya and Bengali people.

1:56:36It's like being in a movie.

1:56:42Hahahaha!

1:56:44This is like Chow Kit, you know.

1:56:45It smells like Chow Kit and Selayang.

1:56:46A gold shop.

1:56:47They sell gold.

1:56:49Gold? Real gold?

1:56:50Yes.

1:56:54They have ones from Myanmar and ones from Bangladesh.

1:56:59Oh!

1:57:01There are Myanmar and Bangladeshi ones.

1:57:02Really? Is it genuine?

1:57:03Of course. It's genuine!

1:57:06Yeah. Okay, okay.

1:57:08This is expensive.

1:57:10Hey, don't people come here to steal?

1:57:12Steal? There are cameras. Look at all the CCTV cameras.

1:57:16If they steal.

1:57:18How are you?

1:57:19Any problems?

1:57:20No. No.

1:57:21No problems.

1:57:24Hahahaha!

1:57:27Why?

1:57:29Hahahaha!

1:57:30Why would there be a problem?

1:57:31Oh, I think this is like a shopping mall.

1:57:34Whoa, it's huge inside.

1:57:36I thought...

1:57:36there were only a lot of shops in front.

1:57:40There are clothing and pants shops inside.

1:57:43Bro, it's insanely huge.

1:57:45Their market is insanely huge.

1:57:46If you walk around here alone, you'll get lost.

1:57:49You'll get lost. Hahahaha!

1:57:51He said if you walk around on your own,

1:57:53you'll get lost in here.

1:57:54That's true. You'll get lost.

1:57:55Yeah. Because it's insanely huge.

1:57:56You won't be able to find your way?

1:57:57It's huge!

1:57:58Insanely huge.

1:57:59If you walk around alone, you'll get lost.

1:58:02Hahahaha!

1:58:03You'll get lost, lost.

1:58:15Okay, let's go back out to the front.

1:58:17I'm already lost in here.

1:58:19Let's go back to the front.

1:58:20Huh?

1:58:20Can I go back?

1:58:21Hey, wait. Come with us first.

1:58:25Come with us first.

1:58:26I still want to go somewhere else.

1:58:28Yeah, you want to go to Cox's Bazar, right?

1:58:31No. I don't want to go back yet.

1:58:32I want to see a few more places.

1:58:36Next, I want to see that beautiful place.

1:58:40A beautiful place.

1:58:40When the Rohingya get bored,

1:58:44when the Rohingya get bored,

1:58:47they, they...

1:58:48Where do the young people go to hang out? Hang out?

1:58:50Here.

1:58:52Around here?

1:58:53It's nearby. About 10 minutes by car.

1:58:55Yeah, what's there?

1:58:57It's beautiful. There's the Myanmar border.

1:59:02This is Myanmar, this is Bangladesh.

1:59:03Oh, the border?

1:59:05Oh, it's beautiful?

1:59:07Yes, it's beautiful if you want to go.

1:59:09It's up to you.

1:59:12I want to go to the border. I want to film.

1:59:13No, no, no.

1:59:14Huh?

1:59:15No!

1:59:15You can't go to the border?

1:59:17No, no, no, no. You can't have a camera there.

1:59:17Oh, cameras aren't allowed at the border?

1:59:19Ohh.

1:59:21Maybe they don't have any other entertainment, you know.

1:59:23I feel sorry for them.

1:59:26There's nothing else.

1:59:27In Cox's Bazar,

1:59:28what's the most beautiful place?

1:59:30Oh, in Cox's Bazar, it's Inani.

1:59:33Huh?

1:59:34Cox's Bazar, Inani Beach.

1:59:36It's beautiful. You can do interviews there.

1:59:38You can't go?

1:59:39I... can't.

1:59:44It's okay, I'll go to Cox's Bazar.

1:59:46Tell him.

1:59:48Take me to the beach in Cox's Bazar,

1:59:50to the most beautiful spot.

1:59:51[Young man explains to the driver]

1:59:59Okay, no problem. Let's go.

2:00:01Okay, no problem.

2:00:01He said he can do it.

2:00:03There's a lot over there.

2:00:04Okay, okay, okay.

2:00:06Okay. Hey, money. Money.

2:00:08I'm giving you a gift, okay. Don't refuse it.

2:00:13I'm not only a gangster in Malaysia, you know.

2:00:15Even among the Rohingya, I'm the boss.

2:00:19That's a lot.

2:00:25Thank you. Thank you.

2:00:30Okay. Okay.

2:00:32Okay, okay.

2:00:34Hey, don't give my number to anyone else, okay.

2:00:36Okay.

2:00:37Alhamdulillah.

2:00:38Okay, guys.

2:00:39Do you guys know what my strategy is now?

2:00:41We're going to Cox's Bazar,

2:00:43the wealthiest area.

2:00:44We'll interview them about the Rohingya.

2:00:47Understand?

2:00:48After going into a place like the one earlier,

2:00:49yeah.

2:00:50we'll go into the more luxurious areas.

2:00:52What do they think about the Rohingya?

2:00:54Bangladesh allowed the Rohingya into this camp.

2:00:57What do they think about it?

2:00:58Because we need to know.

2:00:59Malaysians don't like

2:01:00Rohingya people, judging by

2:01:02all the comments I've seen.

2:01:03Okay, what's your opinion about the Rohingya?

2:01:05This Rohingya area,

2:01:06what conclusion did you come to?

2:01:08Okay. I feel like they're

2:01:11a group of people who are just drifting helplessly.

2:01:13Drifting helplessly?

2:01:14Drifting helplessly. Meaning...

2:01:15They don't know what to do.

2:01:16They don't know what to do.

2:01:17One side pushes them there, the other pushes them back here.

2:01:19So they're just left drifting helplessly.

2:01:21There's no one to help them.

2:01:22Whether it's their education,

2:01:25Yes.

2:01:26or their development.

2:01:28Understand? You can see it, right?

2:01:30Yeah, I see the same thing.

2:01:33They don't have...

2:01:34anyone educating them

2:01:36about... Okay, when it comes to rubbish,

2:01:39maybe there isn't even a system

2:01:41for waste collection.

2:01:42Like the little kids we saw earlier, right?

2:01:44I saw kids around 4, 5 years old

2:01:46with no shirts on, playing in the dirt and everything.

2:01:47So, from a young age,

2:01:48they don't know that those things are dirty.

2:01:50Yeah, yes.

2:01:51So even when they grow up,

2:01:52they see all this rubbish as normal.

2:01:54"Oh, this is normal, right? It's normal."

2:01:56Yeah, like that.

2:01:57That's dangerous.

2:01:58When we look into the underlying causes,

2:02:01if we didn't have a good system either,

2:02:03we'd be the same.

2:02:04We'd be the same.

2:02:05If a country doesn't have laws.

2:02:07No, no, if there are no programs.

2:02:10No programs.

2:02:12No recycling.

2:02:13I still remember, 20 years ago.

2:02:15Well, not 20 years ago.

2:02:17About 15 years ago, Malaysia...

2:02:19We didn't have those 3 separate bins yet.

2:02:21A bin just for glass, one for this,

2:02:24back then all rubbish went into 1 bin.

2:02:26But look now, people have been educated.

2:02:28Why?

2:02:29Because our government put in the effort.

2:02:31True.

2:02:32They invested money.

2:02:33They invested money in educating people.

2:02:37Civilization doesn't happen in a day.

2:02:39It happens over 5, 10 years.

2:02:41But the question is...

2:02:42The Rohingya people here in Bangladesh.

2:02:45Is it the Bangladeshis who should educate them?

2:02:47Or do they themselves have to...

2:02:49learn those things?

2:02:51It makes us wonder, who...

2:02:54is responsible for educating them now?

2:02:56Because they're living in Bangladesh.

2:02:58That's why I said they're drifting helplessly.

2:03:00It's like they really don't want

2:03:02them in Bangladesh. Whether they like it or not,

2:03:05they accepted them, but just leave them like that.

2:03:08But they do help them a little.

2:03:10But to help them too much...

2:03:11I'd rather help my own citizens.

2:03:13Their own citizens.

2:03:14But I've already given you a place...

2:03:15It's a problem with the global system.

2:03:17This is a problem with the global system.

2:03:21There's no...

2:03:22But the UN is already here, right?

2:03:24The UNHCR is officially here, right?

2:03:28They're the ones who should do it.

2:03:29They're responsible.

2:03:30Yeah, they're responsible, right?

2:03:32Yeah, they're responsible.

2:03:32They're the ones who set everything up, right?

2:04:15Okay, I'm getting out. I'm getting out.

2:04:19You want to get out?

2:04:19Yeah, yes. Yes.

2:04:21Yes, you're at a beautiful place.

2:04:22Okay. Okay. I'm going. I'm going.

2:04:24Yeah. I'm going.

2:04:34Whoa, these waves are pretty big!

2:04:37Don't forget to bring the drone.

2:04:38Oh, is this it, bro?

2:04:39What's this?

2:04:40The...

2:04:42What is it?

2:04:44Pani puri? Isn't it?

2:04:45The Indian thing.

2:04:46Yeah, this is it. You eat it with that, that.

2:04:48Oh, really?

2:04:49I want one.

2:04:52This is what I've seen in India.

2:04:53This is the thing that's going to give you a stomach ache.

2:04:55Yeah.

2:04:55Yeah, this is it.

2:04:58Okay. Hahahaha!

2:05:02Here, bro. Galui.

2:05:05Wow!

2:05:06At this beautiful beach.

2:05:09How do you eat it? Like this?

2:05:12Bismillahirrahmanirrahim.

2:05:16Okay, I can't get it in.

2:05:18Eh, okay.

2:05:20Okay?

2:05:22It doesn't taste strange.

2:05:23Yeah. Yeah.

2:05:24It tastes like those spices, right?

2:05:26Yeah, it's okay.

2:05:27Spices.

2:05:29iPhone 17 Pro Max. Do you want to hold it?

2:05:33Yeah.

2:05:43Wow! I'll take your picture. Your picture, okay.

2:05:50Very good.

2:05:52Very good?

2:05:53It's okay. Not bad, right?

2:05:55He's good at it. Yeah.

2:05:591, 2, 3.

2:06:03Whoa! Automatic!

2:06:07Whoa! Hey, crazy, crazy!

2:06:11Oh, he's using panorama.

2:06:14Okay, he's taking pictures.

2:06:39Whoa, whoa, whoa!

2:06:42Whoa! This is awesome, bro!

2:06:44Whoa!

2:06:47Whoa!

2:06:49Whoa, amazing!

2:06:51Hey, you've got talent.

2:06:53Hey, awesome!

2:06:54This is awesome. This is awesome. This is the real deal.

2:06:57One, one for me, for me.

2:07:16Look at what he's doing.

2:07:18That's fast. Oh, he even knows how to play with the colors, boss.

2:07:27That's such a cute pose.

2:07:35It's like a drone, you know.

2:07:36Hahahaha!

2:07:37Like FPV.

2:07:39Is he doing slow motion?

2:07:40So creative.

2:07:41Want a job?

2:07:42Hahahaha!

2:07:43Do a JJ. Slow motion.

2:07:44Thank you.

2:07:45Hey, give him 20.

2:07:47For this one, ask me.

2:07:50Here. See this?

2:07:53These people can be called dirty.

2:07:56Why? Because they've been provided with a system.

2:08:00But they don't follow it.

2:08:01They've had enough exposure.

2:08:03The Bangladeshi government, right?

2:08:05Yeah, this is something that really needs to change.

2:08:07But if you put everyone in 1 place...

2:08:10With no resources at all,

2:08:13how?

2:08:14What do you expect?

2:08:15Whoa!

2:08:18That's dangerous. That ball is hard.

2:08:27Whoa!

2:08:31I want to watch first.

2:08:35Whoa. He's got skills.

2:08:38Oh, he's got skills.

2:08:40Back during the lockdown,

2:08:42I didn't know what to do, so I ended up playing cricket.

2:08:44You played cricket?

2:08:44Yeah.

2:08:46Crazy.

2:08:50Whoa!

2:08:51There are so many people on this beach.

2:08:54Oh, beautiful. Hahahaha!

2:08:56Now this is more like it.

2:08:58Now this is a real sunset.

2:08:59Now this is a real sunset.

2:09:00It's like the sunset in Sabah.

2:09:02Whoa! Look at that ATV, they're not riding it with just 2 people.

2:09:05There are 6 of them on it!

2:09:071, 2, 3, 4, 5!

2:09:095 people! Gangsters!

2:09:13Whoa!

2:09:15Hello, English.

2:09:18English?

2:09:20How much? How much?

2:09:21500, 1000.

2:09:22500.

2:09:243, 2, okay?

2:09:26Okay, okay, I know.

2:09:29Hey, why did you do that? Why did you...

2:09:37Why is this guy coming along too?

2:09:38Exactly.

2:09:40Enough, enough, enough, enough, enough.

2:09:42Be patient, I want to do an interview.

2:09:43I want to do an interview.

2:09:46Stop, stop, stop!

2:09:49Stop.

2:09:55Stop. Stop.

2:10:00Huh?

2:10:01Because I want to interview people.

2:10:05We're from Malaysia.

2:10:07Okay, so now.

2:10:09My plan in coming to this beach

2:10:11is to ask local Bangladeshis.

2:10:14These are local Bangladeshis.

2:10:16Their opinion about...

2:10:19their government accepting the Rohingya as refugees.

2:10:25Brother, can you speak English?

2:10:27Yes?

2:10:28Can you speak English?

2:10:29Yes, of course.

2:10:30I want to ask you about

2:10:31your opinion on the Rohingya refugee camps.

2:10:35Actually, I can't

2:10:37give you any current information

2:10:38about that.

2:10:38Because we honestly don't know.

2:10:40What's happening there.

2:10:41Because we're from outside that area.

2:10:43We live in Dhaka city.

2:10:45So that's why we don't know

2:10:46what's happening in the Rohingya camps.

2:10:48Oh, you're from Dhaka? Okay.

2:10:50I just came from Dhaka today.

2:10:52Okay, okay.

2:10:54Okay, for you.

2:10:55Your government accepted the Rohingya people.

2:10:57Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

2:10:59I think it's a good thing.

2:11:02For a small number of them,

2:11:03but not such a huge number of people.

2:11:05Because now, if you look...

2:11:07There are actually a lot of people

2:11:08campaigning about this in our country.

2:11:10So, it's a big issue.

2:11:11But if the number is around 1 or 2 million,

2:11:15now it may be more than 2 million.

2:11:18So, that's actually too many.

2:11:20At first, it was a very good thing,

2:11:23but now it has become a major issue for us.

2:11:27Yeah... Now it has started

2:11:29to become a bad thing.

2:11:31It was good before, but now it's increasingly becoming a bad thing.

2:11:34Okay, okay.

2:11:35Bad in what way?

2:11:36If you look...

2:11:38They actually come to our cities.

2:11:40And they claim that...

2:11:41they are our citizens.

2:11:43So that's why it has become a big issue.

2:11:45Ohh!

2:11:46They make fake identity cards.

2:11:47They make fake national ID cards.

2:11:49Passports, and then they go overseas

2:11:52using our identity, actually.

2:11:54So, basically, they create fake identities

2:11:57to obtain citizenship in our country.

2:12:01Thank you, thank you.

2:12:02That's the best.

2:12:03I mean, that's the best answer

2:12:05I've gotten so far today.

2:12:07Because a few hours ago,

2:12:09I went to the refugee camp.

2:12:10I went inside the refugee camp.

2:12:13And they told me that...

2:12:16their father tried to get

2:12:19a Bangladeshi passport

2:12:20and go to another country like that.

2:12:23So, you've just

2:12:25confirmed that again.

2:12:26It's the same thing for me.

2:12:29Like my brother said,

2:12:31a lot of Rohingya people claim

2:12:32that they're citizens of our country now.

2:12:35So, this should be resolved as soon as possible.

2:12:39Aha! So their problem now...

2:12:43the problem Bangladeshis have

2:12:44is that Rohingya people

2:12:46are claiming that they

2:12:47are Bangladeshi citizens.

2:12:49And then they leave the country.

2:12:51All using Bangladeshi passports.

2:12:52Oh, okay. Thank you, brother.

2:12:54Thank you, thank you.

2:12:56Thank you.

2:12:58You know what the funniest part was?

2:13:01He was arguing with someone.

2:13:02He was about to slap him, you know.

2:13:03I saw his hand already like this, you know.

2:13:05Hahahaha!

2:13:05Then I went in, went in...

2:13:11He was like this, you know.

2:13:12[Angry]

2:13:13"Yeah, yes? Oh, actually..."

2:13:16Hahahaha!

2:13:17That's what true professionalism means.

2:13:20He was just about to slap him.

2:13:21The thing is, the guy immediately ran away.

2:13:22He said, "Beautiful."

2:13:26Hahahaha!

2:13:29Suddenly, hey,

2:13:30oh, there are a lot of tourists here.

2:13:41Okay, guys.

2:13:42Huh?

2:13:43So!

2:13:44What's the story today?

2:13:46So here's the story...

2:13:47The conclusion!

2:13:48Before we started this documentary...

2:13:51There were 2 major questions.

2:13:53That we wanted answered...

2:13:54Through this investigation, documentary,

2:13:57or whatever you want to call it. Call it whatever you want.

2:14:00From this entire process.

2:14:01There are 2 main questions. Number 1.

2:14:04Where did this originate from?

2:14:05Where did the Rohingya come from?

2:14:07What caused so many of them to end up in Malaysia?

2:14:10Number 2, how do we prevent it?

2:14:13Prevent this from happening.

2:14:15From continuing to happen in Malaysia.

2:14:16And from having a negative impact on Malaysia.

2:14:19From them multiplying?

2:14:20From them multiplying.

2:14:22Before it gets worse after this.

2:14:25So, does anyone not have an answer to that?

2:14:26I have my answer.

2:14:27You guys?

2:14:29Okay, you?

2:14:30I think it's because they come here, right?

2:14:33A better life.

2:14:34A better life. Agreed.

2:14:36For me, it's because the route is easier.

2:14:38An easier route. Agreed, that's right.

2:14:41Like Mr. Koroy said.

2:14:45He said higher wages.

2:14:46Want higher wages?

2:14:47Why choose Malaysia?

2:14:48Why not go to the UK?

2:14:50Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

2:14:52We already asked that earlier.

2:14:53He said it's easier to come here.

2:14:54The UK is far away, you'd have to take a boat there.

2:14:57So, going to Malaysia is easier.

2:14:58Do you have an opinion or an income?

2:15:00Me?

2:15:01Yeah.

2:15:02That's my opinion. Zul already mentioned it earlier.

2:15:03Not the easier route. Because of money.

2:15:06Because there's more money.

2:15:07Because there's more money.

2:15:08And there's 1 more reason.

2:15:10Because many of their families are already there.

2:15:12There's already a large community.

2:15:13So, why go to the US? Everything is difficult.

2:15:16To get in touch with people.

2:15:17There are many in our country.

2:15:19So, you just contact them.

2:15:21"Bro, where are you?" And there you go.

2:15:22"Selayang."

2:15:23Go to Selayang.

2:15:24Yeah. Right, right, right, right.

2:15:26If you want to go to the US, you have to find a new place.

2:15:28This place, that place.

2:15:29Yeah, it becomes a huge hassle. Yeah.

2:15:31Right.

2:15:32Because I once...

2:15:34I was heading home from the office.

2:15:36At that time, I booked a Grab.

2:15:37The Grab uncle himself told me,

2:15:38there was this Rohingya man who got into his Grab.

2:15:42But his friend booked it for him.

2:15:43Throughout the Grab ride, he just stayed quiet

2:15:45until they reached the place where his friend was.

2:15:47Then, when they arrived at his friend's place...

2:15:49the Chinese uncle who was driving the Grab asked,

2:15:51"Hey, why is your friend so quiet?"

2:15:52"Oh, he just arrived in Malaysia."

2:15:54He came from Thailand or somewhere, he said.

2:15:56Oh, really?

2:15:57"Yeah, he has nothing. No money, nothing.

2:15:59That's why he came here."

2:16:00Oh...

2:16:02He came because his friend was there?

2:16:03Because he had a friend there.

2:16:04Yeah, what Awie said is right.

2:16:08As for me...

2:16:10I agree with everyone.

2:16:11With what you guys said earlier.

2:16:12And I want to add...

2:16:14Especially the part at the top.

2:16:16The top part, right?

2:16:17Top. Top.

2:16:18I mean, when I arrived at Cox's Bazar.

2:16:20I tried to think.

2:16:22Looking at everyone's answers, right?

2:16:24I saw them there.

2:16:26That area already has a system.

2:16:29Economic infrastructure?

2:16:31An environment for people to live in.

2:16:33For people to live in, it's already there.

2:16:35It's just that they're kind of...

2:16:38What's the analogy people usually use?

2:16:40From the top of a hill,

2:16:42if we look down the hill...

2:16:43we'll see that the grass at the bottom looks beautiful.

2:16:46From the bottom of the hill,

2:16:47when you look up the hill,

2:16:48the grass at the top looks even more beautiful.

2:16:51Do you get it? Do you get it?

2:16:52Actually, both places are the same.

2:16:53Patchy.

2:16:54But when you look from afar, it looks beautiful.

2:16:56So, from here, they see,

2:16:57"Oh, Malaysia..."

2:17:00"Malaysia is an amazing place."

2:17:03Because they're here.

2:17:04Even their shopping malls don't have proper flooring.

2:17:06Do you get it?

2:17:07Their shopping mall,

2:17:07even the gold shops don't have floors, they're on sand.

2:17:09So, they see their friends

2:17:11going to KLCC for Eid.

2:17:13Uploading all their photos.

2:17:14"Oh, that place is really nice."

2:17:16When they get there...

2:17:18it's actually the same for them.

2:17:19It's 2 × 5 for them.

2:17:20For us, well,

2:17:21thank God our country is developed.

2:17:23Our country has culture and so on.

2:17:26But for them, they suffer there too.

2:17:28And here too... do you understand?

2:17:30It's better to be grateful

2:17:31and live in the environment you already have.

2:17:33No one is going to bother them here.

2:17:35Yeah, no one. They don't need to be afraid...

2:17:37afraid of immigration or anything.

2:17:39Yeah! Number 2.

2:17:41How do we prevent this

2:17:43in the future?

2:17:44From all the people you guys

2:17:45went and interviewed, right?

2:17:46What do you think?

2:17:48How do we prevent it?

2:17:49I think, in terms of prevention...

2:17:53Because Myanmar

2:17:54doesn't accept them anymore either. Right?

2:17:56Then, if they want to go to Bangladesh,

2:17:58Bangladesh doesn't fully accept them either

2:18:00and so on.

2:18:00So, I think we need to use...

2:18:03A diplomatic approach.

2:18:05What do you mean by diplomacy?

2:18:07Provide education facilities and all that?

2:18:09Diplomatic, sorry, diplomatic.

2:18:10What kind of diplomatic approach?

2:18:10Diplomacy. I mean, maybe...

2:18:14Our leadership has to...

2:18:17go and... discuss this with...

2:18:20Negotiate, negotiate?

2:18:21Negotiate, negotiate with Myanmar.

2:18:22With the Myanmar government.

2:18:23Because I think that's the only way. That's the only way.

2:18:24Because there's nothing else. Who else is there?

2:18:27Myanmar doesn't have a government.

2:18:28The military has taken over.

2:18:29No. I mean, whoever is in charge of the leadership,

2:18:33negotiate with them.

2:18:36Negotiate with their leaders.

2:18:38How can we solve this issue?

2:18:41Because I think that's the only way...

2:18:42Because this world has laws.

2:18:44International law, right?

2:18:45If soldiers just do whatever they want,

2:18:47commit atrocities and all that, right?

2:18:49So, what he's saying makes sense.

2:18:53Yeah, so the soldiers can...

2:18:54For me, I don't agree

2:18:56with putting them on an island.

2:18:58How long can that island solution last?

2:18:59Eventually, it'll become the same problem again.

2:19:01Because the longer it goes on, the more people there will be. More and more.

2:19:03Right.

2:19:04The number of people doesn't decrease. It keeps increasing.

2:19:05First, think about what you just said.

2:19:08We send them back to Myanmar.

2:19:10Myanmar, I don't really agree with that.

2:19:12Because Myanmar right now

2:19:13is being led by the military.

2:19:16And the military is fighting civilians.

2:19:20So, if you send them there...

2:19:23what are they going to use them for?

2:19:24That's why there needs to be negotiation.

2:19:25To further promote atrocities.

2:19:29That's why we need to discuss it with them.

2:19:31How are you going to discuss it?

2:19:32If they don't even follow international organizations...

2:19:35UN rules and international rules?

2:19:37They don't follow them.

2:19:38They behead people.

2:19:39If you send them there...

2:19:41Wouldn't that mean you're...

2:19:43It looks to me like you're

2:19:44promoting atrocities.

2:19:45Not because you're sending them back.

2:19:46No, no, no...

2:19:48No, uh...

2:19:49We have to meet with their leadership.

2:19:52To resolve it.

2:19:53Not resolve it just by sending them back.

2:19:55Okay.

2:19:56What do we do? For example, maybe...

2:19:58Zul, do you understand?

2:20:00That country doesn't have a leader.

2:20:03There's no leader.

2:20:05Who are you going to send them to?

2:20:07There's no leader.

2:20:09The military is fighting civilians.

2:20:11And the civilians...

2:20:13What he means is, the military has a leader, right?

2:20:17There's no leader.

2:20:23Why do you think that is?

2:20:25Why did Bangladesh start disliking them?

2:20:27There are more and more of them, and it's getting...

2:20:28Because at first they thought...

2:20:30"Oh, this conflict between the government and them

2:20:33will be resolved."

2:20:34"Then I'll send them all back."

2:20:36But until today, it still hasn't been resolved.

2:20:37So, there's no leader there.

2:20:39So, how?

2:20:40Who's running the country?

2:20:41No one's running it. It's a war zone,

2:20:43they're at war. A war zone.

2:20:44Everywhere?

2:20:45Who's running the capital?

2:20:46The capital is at war too.

2:20:48Who's running the capital?

2:20:49The military.

2:20:50The military, meaning they

2:20:52in June 2026. June,

2:20:54the military only recently started regaining

2:20:57these major territories.

2:20:58Before June, civilians...

2:21:00Forces, groups,

2:21:021 village group after another.

2:21:03Meaning the military is the dominant side.

2:21:05Are they still dominant now?

2:21:06No, both sides are dominant.

2:21:08Even in the Rohingya's homeland, there are 2 sides.

2:21:11The military is fighting the Arakan Army.

2:21:13The Arakan Army consists of civilians,

2:21:15and both sides discriminate.

2:21:17They violate UN rules.

2:21:19They wage war without following international law.

2:21:23International law says

2:21:24you can't attack civilians.

2:21:25They attack civilians.

2:21:26They force people to enlist.

2:21:27I think ASEAN needs to unite.

2:21:31Maybe ASEAN countries like Malaysia, Singapore, the Philippines,

2:21:35all of them. Send a memorandum to...

2:21:38Hold a meeting at the UN and so on.

2:21:40I agree with this.

2:21:41Apply pressure. Apply pressure.

2:21:42I agree with this. Yeah, right.

2:21:43When there's no pressure,

2:21:45they'll feel like, "I'm in power."

2:21:46Yeah, they'll feel like, "I'm in power." Yeah.

2:21:47Even though there are other countries... Singapore is bigger.

2:21:50Brunei.

2:21:51We have the Philippines, Indonesia.

2:21:53The reason is, it's a poor country.

2:21:56No one cares.

2:21:57There's no personal interest.

2:21:59No one has any interest in it.

2:22:00No oil, nothing.

2:22:02So, they don't want to get involved.

2:22:04What do you guys think?

2:22:05How do we prevent this?

2:22:06I agree with what he said.

2:22:07It's just that before getting to that point,

2:22:10there's a process.

2:22:11If we followed our feelings, we'd just give them a boat back.

2:22:15The same way they came,

2:22:16that's how they should go back.

2:22:17If we followed our feelings.

2:22:19But we have to think...

2:22:20practically.

2:22:21Logically, logically, right?

2:22:22You managed to find your own way here.

2:22:24So find your own way out the same way you came. Right?

2:22:26But because we're Muslims...

2:22:28We're rational human beings,

2:22:30that's why we follow the process.

2:22:31We follow Bangladesh's approach,

2:22:33set up a settlement camp for them.

2:22:35Because we've done it before, bro.

2:22:37We've done it before.

2:22:38Hmm, with the Vietnamese refugees.

2:22:40On Pulau Bidong, Terengganu.

2:22:41We've done this before.

2:22:42But it was resolved, see?

2:22:44Use the same approach.

2:22:46Don't just follow Bangladesh's approach.

2:22:47Use the same approach.

2:22:49Just refer to Bangladesh

2:22:51and see how they do it, their methods and everything.

2:22:53Then, whatever is good, we follow.

2:22:55Whatever isn't good, we change it a bit.

2:22:56Modify it.

2:22:57Then, at the same time...

2:22:58We can't let them stay there for too long, bro.

2:23:01Otherwise, it'll become their permanent place.

2:23:02Meaning there are steps.

2:23:04There are steps, the next steps.

2:23:05That's what you were talking about.

2:23:07Keep applying pressure and all that.

2:23:09That's why we've done this before.

2:23:11We've resolved this kind of case before.

2:23:12Pulau Bidong, Vietnam.

2:23:13You guys should read about it.

2:23:15They even rioted and everything,

2:23:16wanting to leave, wanting to leave.

2:23:17Look at it now, everything's fine. We're fine.

2:23:19Vietnam was resolved. They were sent back.

2:23:20The war in Vietnam ended.

2:23:23But this war never ends.

2:23:25You've been to Pulau Bidong before, right?

2:23:28I once drifted there,

2:23:29then they wouldn't let us onto the island.

2:23:31The military guarded it.

2:23:32Oh!

2:23:33Then, for me,

2:23:36a combination of your idea earlier

2:23:38with Awie's idea earlier.

2:23:40That's the solution.

2:23:42You were talking about pressure.

2:23:45Pressure, and what would that pressure achieve?

2:23:47UNHCR doing its job properly.

2:23:50Right, the result is UNHCR doing its job properly.

2:23:54They provide a budget to Malaysia.

2:23:56To build refugee camps.

2:23:58Proper refugee camps.

2:24:00Yeah, I think that's the solution.

2:24:02The best solution.

2:24:03Because if we ignore this issue...

2:24:07it'll become even worse than Cox's Bazar.

2:24:10At least Cox's Bazar has...

2:24:12limits on where they can go, you know?

2:24:14There's a boundary around them.

2:24:16Malaysia currently doesn't have that boundary.

2:24:18They can go anywhere.

2:24:19Anywhere they want.

2:24:21I'm not saying that ethnic group is evil. No!

2:24:24But what is the impact on Malaysia?

2:24:26Because it's the impact on Malaysia that we want to prevent.

2:24:29Do you understand? The impact on Malaysia.

2:24:31Our country.

2:24:32Our country!

2:24:33Our country.

2:24:34The best way is...

2:24:36if UNHCR does its job properly.

2:24:39Apply the right pressure.

2:24:41Do the job properly.

2:24:42I think this issue can be resolved.

2:24:44But if not...

2:24:46the impact will be even worse than Cox's Bazar.

2:24:49Even worse.

2:24:50Even in Cox's Bazar,

2:24:51they can secretly escape.

2:24:53Even though there are checkpoints and soldiers guarding them.

2:24:55Imagine if Malaysia

2:24:57doesn't even have checkpoints or anyone guarding them.

2:24:59No one guarding the borders or anything.

2:25:00Yeah, yeah.

2:25:01It'll be even crazier. Right?

2:25:03It could become something really bad. Seriously.

2:25:06But my conclusion about the ethnic group is...

2:25:11I don't want to say that the ethnic group is evil or good.

2:25:15There is a good side.

2:25:16There is a bad side.

2:25:18So, that's the conclusion.

2:25:20For this documentary...

2:25:24Man! It's even worse

2:25:25than Timor-Leste. Oh, this documentary

2:25:27almost gave me a headache.

2:25:29It's just finding a solution that's difficult.

2:25:32That's the only thing we couldn't figure out.

2:25:33Yeah!

2:25:34So, finally, we met with UNHCR. This is

2:25:37the problem.

2:25:38If they're doing things properly...

2:25:40then everything would be right.

2:25:41But if they don't, if they also...

2:25:44don't really want to do their job.

2:25:45Yeah, that's what happens.

2:25:47What if there's corruption?

2:25:49Then countries like ours are doomed.

2:25:51Second-world countries.

2:25:52Third-world countries.

2:25:53Like Myanmar.

2:25:54Countries like Bangladesh are all affected.

2:25:57What's considered important? Europe and the West.

2:25:59I swear, this issue really makes me angry.

2:26:01So, God willing, everyone.

2:26:02Awie, one last question for you.

2:26:04How do you feel?

2:26:06Suddenly... you were with me,

2:26:09"Hey, buy a ticket for me."

2:26:10Then suddenly I said, "Okay, let's go."

2:26:13What, what, what was your reaction and... yeah?

2:26:17Honestly, I never thought I'd actually end up here.

2:26:19Hahahaha!

2:26:20I'm already in enemy territory, you know?

2:26:22Hahahaha!

2:26:24Enemy territory?

2:26:25Yeah, I've already entered my enemy's territory.

2:26:27I never imagined it.

2:26:28Yeah.

2:26:29I'm serious, wait.

2:26:30What did you say? Buy a ticket?

2:26:30Yeah, so I bought it.

2:26:32Yeah, so it felt like...

2:26:33Whoa, I was shocked.

2:26:35Shocked, hahaha!

2:26:36At night when you went home, did you think about anything?

2:26:40I did think about it.

2:26:40Yeah.

2:26:41I tried to close my eyes, but I couldn't fall asleep.

2:26:42Hahahaha!

2:26:44Why? Were you shocked?

2:26:46"Wait, is this really happening? The ticket's already been bought."

2:26:49Yeah, whether I wanted to or not, I had to go.

2:26:51Yeah, just go.

2:26:52Okay. How do you feel

2:26:53after joining us on this project?

2:26:55It's okay. Okay. It's good, I fit in.

2:26:58You fit in?

2:27:00How were you treated?

2:27:01How was everything?

2:27:02There was enough food.

2:27:03The food and everything, everything was okay.

2:27:04It was enough. There's only 1 thing I didn't enjoy.

2:27:07You guys don't chew betel leaf.

2:27:08Hahahaha!

2:27:10Alright, guys! So, God willing!

2:27:12See you guys in 3 days!

2:27:14Bye!

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