Village of Ilion Board Meeting 9.14.26 Live Stream

2:30grateful

2:48to the flag of the United States of

2:50America and to the republic for which it

2:53stands. One nation under God,

2:57indivisible, with liberty and justice

2:59for all.

3:01>> Take a moment of silence, please, for

3:02our response.

3:09Thank you.

3:11>> All right.

3:17Got a full agenda tonight. Uh want to

3:19start out by introducing uh our new

3:22trustes. As you can see, we have a whole

3:24board now. Kelly Randle,

3:28Diane End. So trustees.

3:35I also want, as you see in front, we

3:37have a new um digital system. It's

3:39called the Owl. What we're going to be

3:41doing is recording, videotaping. We have

3:44the technology to live stream as well.

3:46Tonight we're not going to live stream.

3:48We got to work out a few bugs. But I'm

3:50hoping by next week we can do that. By

3:51tonight we are recording with it and

3:53taking the video. It'll be available on

3:57YouTube, I believe. Is that correct,

3:58Captain?

3:59>> Yes.

3:59>> Yes. And uh we'll get those sites on the

4:02web and links and stuff like that. So

4:04it's a very good addition to what we

4:06need for transparency, accountability.

4:08It's a it's a good thing. Um also we're

4:12coming along very well on our um

4:15website. All personnel been um trained.

4:19M golf, correct? We've been trained

4:21ongoing training.

4:22>> Yeah. And now we'll just

4:23>> So that should be coming online soon.

4:26Our update website, right?

4:29>> All right. Um also tonight we got some

4:31uh

4:33appearances. Um, Judge Stone, Judge

4:37Audrey Dunning, they'll be speaking

4:39tonight about uh the Village Court and

4:43uh um shared services consolidation with

4:46the town. We have uh Her County Land

4:49Bank here and we have Don Hall who

4:52talking about uh our project.

4:58All right. Before we get started um on

5:00the mayor's comments, I just want to let

5:02everybody know that um I'm going to

5:05strictly adhere to the uh policy that is

5:08in place. Um the 3 minute 3 minute I

5:12believe is what we have. Um

5:16and that's it. It's not going to be any

5:18dialogue back and forth. No questions

5:20answered. Um if if any elected official

5:23trust me want to answer a a question,

5:26>> we'll do three. immigration is free.

5:28Everybody's good with that. Um, but that

5:30that's this is not a public hearing. Uh,

5:33public hearing will be coming up once we

5:35um move uh our agenda to a local law and

5:40we haven't done that opportunity where

5:42we'll have much more discussion back and

5:44forth.

5:46All right. So,

5:49request for appearance. Um, Judge Stone,

5:52go to court.

5:58Good evening. Good morning, Mayor. So,

6:01um, Miss Dunning has, um, been planned

6:04that she has, uh, res, uh, resigned and

6:07she will be resigning effective the 30th

6:08of September. I have been the associate

6:12village justice here since 2012.

6:15Um, and um, basically what we're looking

6:19to do is I'm looking to, if this board

6:22wishes, to appoint me to her position,

6:26uh, vacate my position and just address

6:30the court clerk's pay um, until the end

6:34of the fiscal year, which would be May

6:3731st. Um, so we're looking to take care

6:39of her pay. She's um super qualified,

6:43does an absolute great job, and she

6:44just, in my opinion, she's underpaid. I

6:47mean, I think she makes almost minimum

6:48wage, and uh I could be wrong on 50 or

6:5160 cents on that, but uh um

6:53[clears throat] she's worth it. And uh

6:55so the train, so if that was to take

6:57place, I appreciate that. It would save

6:59the village roughly around $4,000 on on

7:02an annual basis. So only probably uh a

7:05little more than half of that uh till

7:07the end of May 31st. Um the plan would

7:10be um Gillian is the last village um in

7:13the county to have a village court. So

7:16the town of German Flats, we've been

7:18preparing for this. We really haven't um

7:21had any board contact like this

7:23whatsoever. We've had some individual

7:24conversations with uh previous

7:26administration, but no um public talks

7:30of anything because we really didn't

7:31know what what we were going to do and

7:33we obviously weren't going to do

7:34anything until there was a new board

7:35here and now there's a new board. So,

7:38what I would recommend um is to have the

7:42board follow the controllers uh uh the

7:45controllers's office line of to make a

7:48resolution to um dissolve the village

7:51court. Um that would have to go up for a

7:54um public hearing um after a certain

7:57amount of time. And if there's no public

7:59referendum. If there's no u people

8:01against it, we're going to go out and

8:02get signatures against it the court um

8:05then we would go forward and we would

8:07transition um into the town of German

8:09flights court. And that gets rid of the

8:11liability of of everything to do with

8:13the court except for the court records.

8:16And that will bring me to the other I

8:18think it's on your resolution for you

8:19tonight where I'm looking for a grant.

8:22not going to spend $30,000. Up to

8:24$30,000 for us to apply for a grant from

8:28they call it JCAP from the state of New

8:30York. And if they approve that up to

8:33$30,000, the years and years of records

8:36we have here and boxes and boxes of

8:38stuff that below in that cellar below

8:40over there below the police station

8:42would be uh digitalized and put to um

8:46transfer basically to German flats as

8:48soon as that happens. So basically the

8:51the village clerk would be the custodian

8:53of those files, but if they're all

8:54digitalized, she wouldn't have to be the

8:56custodian of them. Just I I was also the

8:58village justice and associate village

9:01justice in the village hurt for the past

9:03four and a half years and we went

9:04through the transition of closing the

9:05court on June 30th. Um they did things a

9:08little different over there. They did it

9:10kind of aggressively and fast. Um, I'm

9:12hoping to have the 8 months, 9 months to

9:15just um transition so the people of the

9:18village people understand people who get

9:20ticketed or arrested in this town or um

9:23any kind of violation, they have ample

9:26time to uh transition over to German

9:28flats and to make it smooth. If you've

9:30been here on any court day, I was here

9:32on Friday. Obviously, judge was too. And

9:34uh I mean they're just everywhere. I

9:35mean, and and that's one thing that I

9:37want to and I'm not looking to waste

9:38everyone's time. I want to answer a few

9:40questions. So the village might seem

9:42like why is the court not making all

9:43this money with everyone there? Well,

9:46the money comes in and the money goes to

9:48the state and they distribute it how

9:50they feel fit with a form a formula. But

9:53any criminal matter money barely

9:55anything less less than 5% comes back to

9:57the village. Now some vehicle and

9:59traffic monies get reduced they come

10:01back to the village. But that's not what

10:03I should be talking about or the court's

10:05about. The court's about justice and

10:07that's why we we try to do it that way.

10:09So, um, over the past years, if you look

10:12at the budgets, Illyn has not, I don't

10:14think they've ever made money in the

10:15past, especially since I've been here.

10:17They don't, it was not wasn't a money

10:18maker. It's pretty much a liability. Um,

10:21we're the last village in the town in

10:22the in the county to have one. Um, when

10:24I got into elected in 2012, Mohawk

10:27merged with German Flight Sten. Um, like

10:30I said, Herman Murders did, Dodgeville

10:32did years back, and um, Middleville did

10:36about six, seven years ago also. So, I'm

10:38I'm very familiar with the process and

10:40um it should be a very smooth transition

10:43and if anyone has any questions, they

10:44can let me know. Currently, all

10:46evictions have been done in German flats

10:48since I got elected in 2012. So, there

10:51have never been an eviction here unless

10:52I had a conflict with some with someone

10:55and then it was done. He went to do it.

10:57But, I don't think we ever had that

10:58conflict once. He only judge Kip by one

11:00time had to do one for me. uh besides

11:02that and those conflicts just get pushed

11:04out to other towns if they if they

11:06happen. So there'll be no conflict with

11:08that. So um so that's what we're looking

11:11to do. So, I'm looking I'm asking the

11:13board to um um approve

11:18Miss Dunnian's resignation appoint me

11:20and as the would be the village justice

11:24um and there would be no need for a new

11:25election because the controllers's

11:27office states that as long as the board

11:30votes within 90 days of um Miss Dunny's

11:34resignation that there's no reason to

11:36have a special election or any kind of

11:37election and the election would be next

11:39June if you decided not to go forward.

11:42So, um I could sit until next June and

11:44then we just can have an election if the

11:46board votes not to go forward with a

11:49merger with the counter defense.

11:51>> I would like to add one point.

11:52>> Yeah,

11:54I'd like to add one point because this

11:56is something that I have firsthand

11:58knowledge of.

11:59Our court went through because we get

12:02audited on several fronts.

12:04um our audit with the state

12:06controllers's office two months ago and

12:11we have very limited work hours for our

12:14clerk here in the village. They have

12:16denied multiple requests over the years.

12:20Not this board, not this mayor for extra

12:23hours

12:24um for extra money that's needed to

12:27properly run our court because the

12:29village of court by and large is a

12:32criminal court. We don't get the volume

12:35of traffic cases even though people know

12:37there's a lot of traffic tickets. Most

12:40of our volume is criminal which is why

12:42there's a lot less money that comes in.

12:45However, the controllers's office has

12:47told us because of the state mandates

12:50for um operational matters that we have

12:53to put in place for we have to go back

12:56through however many years of records to

12:58meet their new recordeping requirements.

13:01that they could in fact that's what they

13:03told us make the village increase the

13:06clerk's hours give us the financial

13:09resources we need to do what we need to

13:11do so this is a big expense that the

13:14village will be looking at not to

13:18mention the fact that a recent safety

13:19audit here in the village exposed a

13:22number of safety concerns in our court

13:26those would need to be addressed

13:29and that again is another matter that

13:33would be at least in the tens of

13:36thousands of dollars if not more to

13:40address and correct in our courtroom. We

13:42have had numerous outbursts in our

13:44courtroom, people taken out in

13:46handcuffs.

13:48That's the joy of having a largely

13:49criminal calendar. So, there are other

13:52expenses beyond the salary and our

13:54budget that are looming on the horizon

13:58if this merger does not occur. So I just

14:01want to make sure that you understood

14:03that the finances are the savings to the

14:06village are more significant than you

14:09know it appears right now.

14:12>> Thank you.

14:13>> You're welcome.

14:14>> Mayor.

14:14>> Yes.

14:15>> May I ask Judge Dunn

14:18um you've been at this a long time. You

14:21too, Judge Stone. I'd like to hear and

14:23I'd like the people in the room to hear

14:26your view on whether you think on

14:29balance for the people who live in

14:31Illiam is this consolidation a good

14:35thing

14:37>> 100% yes

14:41>> well I on all aspects for me financially

14:43for the village for the taxpayers I

14:45absolutely 100% agree is it an

14:47inconvenience for someone who lives on

14:49southb to go to terminal flats to answer

14:53a speeding ticket. I mean, it could be,

14:55but all in all, it's it's to me it's

14:57it's it's in the best interest of the

14:58village to do that. We do not have like

15:02judge, we do not have enough time like

15:05this this court has it might not be

15:08busier than Burkmer, but it's really

15:09close. I mean, when it comes to it

15:11wasn't for Walmart having all those

15:12purses over there, it we would be

15:14busier. We have we have a PD who um it

15:18seems like they're just they're on the

15:20ball here. It seems like we have a lot

15:21of arrest, but when you go to places who

15:23don't have a lot of a lot of lot of

15:25places that don't have cops and don't

15:26have um we we see a lot more problems

15:29coming, you know, I think you see that

15:31on the outskirts of towns, especially in

15:33Frankfurt towards Udica and stuff, it's

15:34really it's coming this way. And uh I

15:37think that um you know I just for me I'm

15:41not easy I'm not saying she is but when

15:42it comes to to to to people coming to

15:45our town who don't belong here and

15:47stealing and doing crimes here I'm not

15:49an easy person when it comes to it and

15:51uh neither has been Judge Dunn. But uh

15:54and I just think that we're getting

15:55better. Our court is um it was so busy

15:59at one point just because we had so much

16:00but I just think we're getting people to

16:02understand you want to commit a crime in

16:04the village of building you're going to

16:05pay for it when it comes to the at the

16:07court level. So I believe I really do to

16:09answer your question I think this is the

16:11best move for the village. I have lived

16:13I grew up here all my life. um things

16:15have changed um drastically um over time

16:18and uh but I do believe this is the best

16:21thing and the biggest inconvenience is

16:22that someone living you know somewhere

16:26doesn't have you know we have um German

16:27flats has two elected judges one lives

16:29in Illen um I live in German flats

16:31outside and um that's the anger so he'll

16:35also he'll also be there so there's two

16:37people that the village of people elect

16:39so it's you know so it's just like

16:41German flats moian they all elect us you

16:43know we're up every four years. So, they

16:45have their choice and uh that's I do

16:47believe that's the uh the correct way to

16:48go.

16:49>> Yeah.

16:49>> And and I will I will just add in the

16:51last 3 years, four years, our case load

16:56has more than doubled in our court. More

16:59than double. Yeah. We've got the numbers

17:01to prove it. This and the state

17:03recognizes that. That's why they're

17:05talking about more resources for the

17:07court because everything gets reported

17:09up the food chain. And here in Illen,

17:12because of our large criminal calendar,

17:15and this started before I was on the

17:17bench, I believe all civil matters,

17:20which means evictions and small claims

17:22have been done by the associate judge.

17:25Most of them over in the German flag.

17:27>> I just take them over to German flats.

17:28That's how I've done it for years. I

17:29just do everything there. So, everyone

17:31knows if you get an eviction, you go

17:32there, right?

17:33>> And that's how I've done it for years.

17:34>> Because we do not have the time or the

17:37manpower to handle it. Um I it there

17:41will be the same number of court

17:42sessions. Some of them may even be at a

17:45more convenient time for people that

17:47live in the village. But I I see no

17:49downside to this merger. And just to

17:52give you a So there's about 80 to 90

17:55people in our county jail. I would

17:58average that 25 26 27 are out of the

18:02building. So, and the and the and the

18:05other and the other third is out of the

18:08is out of the building and the other

18:09third is the rest of the county. So,

18:11that just shows you what's I mean, it

18:13really does. That's what's happening.

18:15But, you know, it's not, you know, we

18:16get our serious ones, but it's just a

18:18lot of, you know, you know, we have two

18:20problem, we have two major problems. We

18:22have mental health, we have addiction.

18:24And if people understand addiction,

18:26understand mental health, we know what

18:27it is. If they don't, then, you know,

18:29that's what happens. And this is what,

18:31you know, where I'm trying to do in

18:32German Flats, and I've done it over

18:33there successfully. And if we can do it

18:35over here is that that 18, 19year-old

18:38young man or young woman who gets in

18:40trouble in town, I would rather have

18:41them be assigned to go clean the village

18:44own parking lot if if it could happen um

18:46over by the Dollar General or whatever.

18:48They can sweep the parking lot for us

18:50and uh instead of paying that $200 fine

18:52that's going to the state where I

18:54wouldn't want to have the 10 time

18:55convicted drug person or petted arson

18:57person um cleaning up next to people's

19:00cars in town. I would not rather have

19:01that person. that's not the right job

19:03for that person or the right outcome for

19:04that. So that's how I want to go forward

19:08and it works and we can work on

19:10community service type things going

19:12forward. I would love to do that. I just

19:14know that as soon as I assign that then

19:16we have to have someone supervised and

19:17be responsible. So there's a lot to

19:19that. So I'm just not sure if that can

19:20happen with the village we have the

19:21manpower or the or the time in the

19:23organization to do that. So, uh

19:25something in the future that we can work

19:26on if that's someone who can find a

19:29program and a supervisor for that.

19:32>> Anything else?

19:33>> I do, mayor, if I could. Um for

19:35budgetary purposes, um would the village

19:38if it was to move to the town or um

19:40would we still have budgetary expenses?

19:42>> So, we are the town is responsible just

19:45like if you poof the village um town

19:48would be responsible except for you know

19:51there's certain things you would need.

19:52But when it comes to the village court,

19:54I'll answer your question. There's no

19:55other fees. There's no uh we we

19:58basically pay you just like the village

19:59of Mohawk. If you get a parking ticket

20:01in the village of Mohawk, you pay the

20:03court to Germans. Quarterly, we send you

20:06a check. If we get a codes fine from the

20:09village of Mohawk for a $200 fine, we

20:12will send you that check and that

20:14quarterly. And we do that for Milwaukee

20:16every uh we never used to do that. The

20:18Mohawk's attorney who was our attorney

20:20kind of said we're not doing things

20:21right. So we've been sending checks for

20:23the past uh six seven years but so

20:25whatever we collect on behalf of any

20:27local law or any codes case um will go

20:31directly back to the village on

20:32quarterly and our books are always open

20:34for inspection when it comes to that if

20:36someone ever wanted to come over and

20:37look to see if um you know they're

20:39actually getting their fair [laughter]

20:40share um parking ticket things the only

20:42thing I think we have to talk about um

20:44with the state going forward I believe

20:47you can keep your parking tickets here

20:49and accept your money just how you do it

20:50now I'm hoping that's the case because

20:53it seems like a lot of work. Um, but at

20:55least you didn't keep your money. But I

20:56don't know. I'm not I don't have that

20:58answer. So that's the only answer they

20:59got to find out. So

21:01>> salary expenditures.

21:02>> So the village of Herkimer still takes

21:05their their parking tax and collects

21:07their fines. Okay. Village of Mohawk

21:10does not. Um, village of Middleville

21:13does keeps their fine. So it's it's all

21:16over the board. I just don't know. I'm

21:18assuming that Burton's doing it. it's

21:19not uh illegal to keep going. So, but uh

21:22that's the only thing you have. And then

21:24just so you know, Vanessa, the woman who

21:25works for us as the clerk, um I got a

21:28verbal from the German flats board um

21:30that uh they're going to bring her on um

21:33at the going rate that she will be

21:35making hopefully efforts.

21:36[clears throat] So, the town will take

21:37over

21:38>> the town will take over. They'll take

21:39over her part-time salary. Yep. And then

21:42um the three salaries and also the

21:46assistant district attorney's salary. I

21:47believe it's $4,000. that would also be

21:50to taken care of by the towns.

21:52>> Okay. So, we wouldn't have anything here

21:54for budgetary wise.

21:55>> We have you would have no budget for for

21:57your June 1st going forward. So, um I as

22:00like all I really ask is that May 31st

22:02if we can get Vanessa or the clerk that

22:05few extra dollars I asked for in the

22:06letter to the board. Um I would

22:08appreciate that. I think she's well

22:10worth it and she's been well welld

22:11deserved in time that she really she

22:14got. So, I appreciate that.

22:16[clears throat] But is there anything

22:17else? Um I'm always available email.

22:18I'll get right back to you. But uh

22:20>> yeah.

22:21>> Any other questions?

22:22>> I got a question. You said there be no

22:24um budgetary need that.

22:28>> So no budgetary need from June as long

22:30as we agree that the date is going to be

22:31we're going to vote soon and we're going

22:33to do May 31st, 2027. That we'll go

22:37forward and we will um your board can

22:40work with our board and making sure

22:41everything's done. um when it comes

22:44there there's someone from the

22:44controllers's office that will more than

22:46gladly help us. I will I will ask one

22:48thing that next year that if I if I'm

22:51able to apply for a joint grant to help

22:55so basically and instead of applying for

22:5730,000 we can apply for 60,000 and that

22:59joint grant that comes from state money

23:01that could be used towards the

23:03construction um and the rehab of the

23:06current German flags court. So, we're

23:08trying to make a separate entrance total

23:10so when you go pay your taxes, you don't

23:12have the same person sitting next to

23:14someone, you know, so someone can walk

23:15in and pay their taxes without having um

23:1830 people sitting next to them. So, just

23:20just to give you like someday here in

23:22court, she's had up to 17 um defendants,

23:26inmates, infendants, whatever you want

23:28to call them, but in court at one time,

23:30that's 17 in one time. That's half the

23:33size of the court. So, that just shows

23:35you sometime what what we get. So, we

23:37need to make room over there. German

23:38flats, we applied for a grant over

23:39there. We've received over 30,000 to

23:42make it um handicap accessible, all the

23:44power doors. So, that's all done over

23:46there. Uh we just need to make the um

23:48the new improvements for parking, which

23:50there's going to it's going to be a

23:51problem next year. There's going to be a

23:52problem for a few months until until we

23:54get everything under control. But, uh

23:56that's that. Not all the court um

23:59besides the gray chairs in the

24:00courtroom, a few desks, the computers

24:02and the printers that is court that'll

24:04be the unified court system. Um they

24:07will come and take what what's theirs

24:09and the chairs will go to German flats

24:11if that's okay and everything else will

24:14stay and um there's no I've tried to

24:17figure out there's no way we can keep

24:19the village court to have a trial or

24:21something cuz I court looks more like a

24:23courtroom than German flats. But uh um I

24:25was told uh soon as you move it, that's

24:28where you are. So there will be no So

24:29that room will be for whatever you see

24:32fit to do. Obviously um you know, right

24:35now we're not handicapped accessible. I

24:36don't believe

24:37>> no the witness boxes and the juror box

24:40isn't I mean let alone for you know you

24:43know people to enter and get in the

24:45courtroom. Um then there's no way to do

24:48it. We've looked into it a couple of

24:50times here since I've been on the bench

24:53and it's six figures um easily to make

24:56that area um fully handicap accessible

25:00ADA compliant. You can't it's just

25:02impossible.

25:03>> And one last question if I may. So would

25:05we have to there banning expense on the

25:08village for um port security or

25:10>> No, I mean I mean by by No. I mean your

25:13responsibility um of those 4 hours of

25:15overtime um are probably no longer uh

25:19your responsibility. Um you know would I

25:22ask if you had you know if we could work

25:24something out with with you know I'm not

25:26sure if we could work something out with

25:27the an offduty officer or whatever. We

25:30do that right now with Mohawk. They just

25:32seem not to have any staff that's any

25:34interested in doing it. Um, but we we

25:36need we we need to address that and

25:38we're going to address that. We can't

25:39ask the village to uh even though I want

25:42to, we can't ask the village to supply

25:44someone. I don't think they have

25:45jurisdiction over there. There's just a

25:47lot to it. So, I really don't if he gets

25:49hurt on the job over there. It's not

25:50jurisdiction. So, I I just don't uh I

25:52don't think we should go down that road.

25:54I think we should just um let German

25:56flats figure it out um instead of just a

25:58million taxpayers paying for 4 hours of

26:00overtime to sit in German flats. So, I'm

26:03trying to give you the answer I think

26:04you want. Um but I just don't think that

26:06um that the board after looking at it

26:08would go for it and I'm not sure if the

26:10police department would go for it

26:11either. I just I don't know how that

26:12would work out. So, so I think that

26:14we're going to fend for ourselves over

26:15there and

26:18>> anything else? Anybody any question?

26:22>> Thank you. uh increased compliance,

26:25decrease in liability, and increased

26:27efficiency.

26:28>> Absolutely. Yep. 100%. And the only last

26:30thing I had to say is not pertaining to

26:32the court, but um it it bothers me when

26:36I when I have these codes cases out in

26:38German Flats and uh twice a year German

26:41Flats has a garbage day. And some people

26:43in the village of I might realize they

26:45pay German flats taxes. So take

26:46advantage of it if you can. Um, there's

26:48a place you can go sign up at the

26:50village at the town, excuse me, for

26:52garbage day. So, if you have people who

26:54are not in compliance with garbage and

26:57you'd like to give them a nudge to say,

26:58"Listen, you have a chance to go on

27:00October 14th or whatever day. I'm not

27:01sure what day. I think it's that

27:03weekend. It's coming up." But that

27:05weekend to bring your trash, not not

27:07garbage garbage, but your your debris

27:09over to the town of German flats. As

27:12long as you have a permit, which they'll

27:13give to you for free, you can bring that

27:15over. So for the codes officer to know

27:16that I can't tell them what to do. I'm

27:18just trying to remind everybody that we

27:20have these every year and then we have

27:21then two weeks later we'll get all these

27:23violations or people having garbage out

27:25front or debris. Just uh so hopefully

27:28the people that do have those can get

27:29that reminder that they can do that and

27:31no charge. Um and that's it. That's it.

27:37>> Thank you. And if um have anything for

27:39me, let me know and then just let me

27:41know if the resolution's passed.

27:42Obviously, Audrey's uh resation is

27:44effect on the 30th, so we'll have to

27:46have something in place by the 1st. Um

27:48and then

27:50we'll go for

27:51>> So, we need a motion.

27:52>> You want to do the resolution?

27:54>> Okay. Um I'll read the resolution and

27:57we'll take a poll at the grant

27:58application justice court assistant

28:00program also known as the JC AP

28:04whereas the bill is really important to

28:06digitally scan all past documents and

28:08whereas the billing board endorses

28:11practices that provide security safety

28:13and efficiency and whereas an

28:15application has been prepared for funds

28:17to address these needs through the New

28:19York State Office support administration

28:21program and be a firm result of the

28:23Philadelphiaian board authorizes the

28:26Philadelphiaian court to apply for a

28:29JCAP grant in the 2026 47 grand cycle of

28:33$30,000.

28:35So we need a motion uh to accept.

28:39>> I'll make that motion.

28:41>> Do we have a second?

28:43>> Second.

28:44>> All right. All in favor? I'm still

28:48reading. All right.

28:55>> [snorts]

28:56>> should say any discussion.

29:02>> Okay. Any discussion?

29:05>> All right. All in favor? I

29:10hear.

29:11I

29:13>> Okay.

29:16Motion for pardon.

29:18>> That's all you need the motion. Well, I

29:19need a motion for the appointment of of

29:21October 1st. You can do it at the next

29:23meeting if you don't have that.

29:26>> Are we ready to do that? [clears throat]

29:28>> Yep.

29:29>> I'll make a motion.

29:30>> All right. I'll second motion.

29:34Um, any discussion? This is for judge.

29:37>> Okay. All right. Um, any discussion? All

29:41right. All in favor? All in favor?

29:44Any car?

29:46>> All right. Any Thank you. The only thing

29:48else you would have to do and we can do

29:49it next meeting is I want to make sure

29:50the board has an understanding of it is

29:53to make sure you address the um vacation

29:56of my position into the justice position

29:58with the salary of what Judge Dunny has

30:00currently and then partially some of

30:02that money to for the clerk which I I I

30:06sent in the letter. I just

30:08>> so we can figure out

30:11>> I just want to make sure everyone has

30:12time to talk about it because sometimes

30:14it's slightly

30:23>> so he's looking to we got to make a

30:25motion to move him into a position and

30:28then take part of his salary to give it

30:31to

30:32>> part of the associate justice salary and

30:34then leave the adjust the associate

30:37Justice salary associate justice blank

30:40not vacated from now until May 31st.

30:43Okay.

30:43>> And obviously some there's a conflict

30:45with a case. There's plenty of judges in

30:48town.

30:48>> So you need a motion for us to leave

30:50your seat bay.

30:52>> Yes.

30:53>> More importantly the appointment and

30:54more importantly the the the finances of

30:57>> the clerk

30:58>> the clerk being the $3,000 going towards

31:02the clerk and the $4,000 will

31:04>> so 3,000 to the clerk.

31:06>> Yep. Okay.

31:07>> To be effective October 1st.

31:08>> October 1st.

31:10So, I'll make a motion for Judge Stone

31:14to take Audrey's position

31:18and leave his vacant

31:21and apply $3,000 towards the clerk's

31:25position as October 1st.

31:28>> Anybody else?

31:29>> I'll second.

31:30>> Thank you.

31:32>> And decrease shares. Correct. By the

31:3430,000.

31:35>> What's that? with it.

31:36>> So, I'm taking over Audrey.

31:38>> He's taking over mine. So, he'll leave

31:39my

31:39>> And then the $7,000 salary we had or 16,

31:42whatever it was, that'll be that'll be

31:44gone except 3,000 will be going to the

31:47clerk.

31:48>> And then on May 31st, 2027,

31:51we'll you'll need to make a resolution

31:53on that at some point. But

31:55>> well, are we agreeing to move on?

31:59>> I just want to make sure you follow the

32:00rules. I just Why don't we wait on that?

32:02>> We can wait on that.

32:03>> Why don't you wait on that? Just make

32:04sure we call the controllers like you

32:07know what I'm saying. Just make sure

32:07everything's done, you know, just to

32:09make sure we got it right.

32:10>> Perfect.

32:10>> I don't want to mess up that one.

32:13>> I did. No, I made a motion to second

32:15that.

32:18>> For the salary.

32:19>> We just have to have all all in favor.

32:21>> All right. All in favor?

32:23>> Yes.

32:23>> All right. All right.

32:28>> Okay.

32:30>> Thank you very much. Appreciate that.

32:33Whilst we're just on court, um I think

32:35we still need to appoint two trustees to

32:37do the core audit.

32:40>> Yeah, I think I appointed

32:44Daniel.

32:47>> Let me know the clerk will open the

32:49books and just the sheet you go through.

32:51It's very simple. I've done it before.

32:53>> Oh, good. Okay. Good. Yeah, it's it's

32:55about an hour process. Hour and a half.

32:58>> Thank you. Thank you.

33:12All right. Purple landing.

33:24>> I'm here.

33:27I had a meeting with the mayor uh with

33:29the county. What was your name?

33:30>> Mike Edwards. I'm sorry.

33:32>> Mike.

33:33>> Mike Edwards. I run the land bank for

33:35our county. Background. Uh our county

33:37was part of a uh multi-county land bank

33:40and they chose to get out of it in 2020,

33:43I believe, because uh they things

33:46weren't getting done. So they uh in 2024

33:49they opted to form their own land bank.

33:52and I'm at uh you know I run it just one

33:55employee so it's kind of they keep their

33:58thumb on me so and that's the way it

34:01should be you know you can really focus

34:03and get things done so

34:06with that I meeting with towns villages

34:09and I've met with the mayor like I said

34:12and uh the county treasurer who's also

34:14the treasure of the land bank um Cindy

34:18Bennett was there county legislator uh

34:21we discussed test uh some of the zombie

34:24properties in the villa villian. Um

34:27that's what we do. We're trying to clean

34:28up planted properties, abandoned

34:30properties, either get them demolished

34:33or rehabilitated and back on the tax

34:35roles one way or another. Uh the great

34:38thing about the land bank program is uh

34:41we attach a development enforcement

34:43mortgage to any property that we can

34:45sell and in that it kind of keeps our

34:48thumb on it. They have 12 months to do

34:51it. They can apply for a onetime

34:5312-month extension. Um, we've got a

34:56couple projects. There's actually

35:01a few projects going on right now in the

35:03village.

35:07Um, we have nine properties that we took

35:10so far in the two years that we've been

35:12operating. Uh, we demolished one tending

35:15place. I don't know if anyone's familiar

35:17with it, but it was a dilapitated house.

35:20It had to come down. Um

35:23uh we've sold five properties um um to

35:27different people. Uh some of them people

35:29would think they' never be able to be

35:31fixed and they can be fixed. I mean,

35:33anything can be fixed. It's just how

35:34deep you want to go to fix it. Um so,

35:38but the the the nice thing about the

35:40program is like uh we got one over here

35:42on 26 Clark Street.

35:46um whole foundation wall was kicked in.

35:48It was kind of a mess. All the windows

35:50were getting busted out of it. We sold

35:52it for $5,000. The guy's fixing it up.

35:55He's got a year to two years to fix it

35:58up and get it back to code's compliant.

36:00We require a certificate of compliance

36:03or occupancy before we sign off on it to

36:08the the person, the developer, whoever

36:10it is. If they choose uh someone wants a

36:13property next door that to be

36:14demolished, that could be it could be

36:15demolished as well. Doesn't have to be

36:17re rehabilitated. It can be demolished.

36:20But again, they have to demolish it,

36:22clean up the property, seed it.

36:27That's what we do. Uh we met with the

36:29mayor about and uh Cindy had asked me to

36:32come. Um,

36:34zombie properties. Zombie properties are

36:36properties that the county didn't take

36:38because of whatever issues, mostly codes

36:41issues, codes problems. Um, so the

36:43county doesn't take them. They kind of

36:45float. Nobody's paying taxes on them.

36:48They actually the owner still is the

36:50owner of the property. Um, and there's I

36:54think there's 90 of them in the county

36:56right now and there's several in the

36:57village.

36:59Um, trying to address those. We have

37:01some money left over for this current

37:03grant cycle for demolitions and we'd

37:06like to do at least two more maybe three

37:10up to four in the village. Um I had a

37:14list given to me from I don't know from

37:17the village or Cindy but uh a list of

37:20properties they weeded it down to four

37:23properties. I don't know if you the

37:24board seen this stuff or not. I don't

37:26think we collect

37:29yet.

37:30>> I don't I give you this copy because

37:33someone wants it.

37:35>> This is the list was given to me from

37:37the village.

37:38>> Thank you.

37:43>> And the highlighted ones are the ones

37:45that

37:47I think Cindy or whoever's highlighted

37:50the concerns maybe codes between

37:52everything.

37:57And that's where we're at. Uh zombie

37:59properties, uh the situation with zombie

38:02properties and the way we're handling it

38:04is if uh there's only three ways that I

38:06know they get the properties. Maybe JK

38:09or somebody knows different, but

38:11property owner turns the property over

38:13to you or the land bank county can take

38:16from tax foreclosure proceedings. takes

38:18about 3 years to get the property

38:20through that system or the municipality

38:23can take it through an article 19

38:24proceeding which is a court proceeding

38:26in supreme court.

38:28So, if you want to move forward on these

38:30properties, that route, which is the the

38:33quickest route, is either to have the

38:35property owner turn it over to you. The

38:37village wants to attempt to do that,

38:38that would be great, and they would do

38:40it. Easiest way. They're signed over.

38:43You get title to it, hand it to the

38:45land, we'll demolish the property, clean

38:47it up. Um, the second second fastest way

38:51is article 19 proceeding, which uh

38:55specific steps to go with that. And I

38:57don't know, I love the the procedures

39:00with the bear. So, if anybody needs any

39:02information, you can contact me or get a

39:05hold of uh you know, through the there's

39:06a website. Just email me and I'll I'll

39:09get back to you.

39:11And that's it.

39:18>> I Yeah, I'm not looking to, you know, a

39:21motion or anything like that. It's just

39:23a presentation and if the village wants

39:26our help, that's what we do and that's

39:28how we can do it. Um, we look for like

39:31um if you do something like take the

39:33property through an online proceeding.

39:35That's your portion of what's going on.

39:38We're going to spend the $30 $40,000 to

39:40tear the property. That'll be your

39:42responsibility, but everything else

39:46could work. You know, it it should help

39:48to benefit the communities.

39:51It's a great program along with uh what

39:54we're doing with CDBG grants

39:57>> and u hopefully enacting us law. Um I

40:03think that we're aggressively pursuing

40:06designing properties fractions whatever.

40:09I think working together is going to be

40:11a major bill. My background is coach.

40:14Coach is big. I mean and nobody wants to

40:16be the bad guy but I always approach

40:18you're not the bad guy. You're just

40:20trying to, you know, you try and work

40:22with people as best you can to try and

40:24get them to realize that, hey, you clean

40:26up your property. It's benefiting

40:27everyone around.

40:28>> Do you have a budget that you work off

40:30of?

40:30>> Yes, there's a budget

40:32>> and that's given by the state.

40:34>> The state and the county funds us and

40:37the state. Yes.

40:38>> So, but with your budget, the land

40:40serves so many properties per year. Yes.

40:43we're going to target to the

40:46>> So, the state gave us um $300,000 for

40:50demolitions and it's a threeyear grant

40:52cycle. We have about 148,000 left for a

40:56net grant cycle for demolitions.

40:59>> We'd be very aggressive then take

41:01advantage of that $100,000.

41:03>> We want to spend it by next October

41:05because, you know, if you don't spend

41:06it, you can't apply for the next round.

41:08>> Oh, yeah. So, we want

41:10>> So, we can encourage owners to turn it

41:13over to us.

41:15>> If they would, it'd be great. It's the

41:16easiest way.

41:17>> I'm just saying there's still violations

41:19and there's times.

41:21>> And when's this when's this current

41:22round end?

41:24>> October [clears throat] 10th next year,

41:262027,

41:29>> but it takes a little while to get your

41:31paperwork through the state to get

41:33approval to do a demolition. It's you

41:36climb a mountain. I'm new, but I know

41:38how to do it a little bit better now,

41:40but it's still amount you plan to get

41:42there.

41:43>> Give us a pinpoint of a need to

41:46to move forward.

41:48>> I'm sorry.

41:48>> What do you think our time frame for

41:50moving forward should be?

41:51>> I would say uh you should if you want

41:56us to do the demolitions,

41:59I would say before the end of the year,

42:01try and move at least motions to that

42:04how you're going to proceed to get the

42:05properties. Okay.

42:06>> Cuz it'll take 3 months throughout the

42:0919 probably

42:11>> it it we have people who are willing to

42:16just give us a deed in loot.

42:18>> Mhm.

42:19>> Um

42:20>> that's ideal.

42:22>> Now we have more than one of those.

42:27Uh, but what what we would want to know

42:29first, I guess, is whether you would

42:31accept it into your program before we

42:34take on the liability of owning the

42:37thing.

42:38>> 100%. There's got to be an agreement in

42:40place. Um, and and there's there's a a

42:43few wheels and cogs in the wheel because

42:46we have to get county approval through

42:48their committee to forgive the taxes.

42:50So, that, you know, there might be a a

42:52burned out house. There's one over here

42:54on the side of town. um that might have

42:58$12,000 back taxes owed on it. We have

43:01to if we're in agreement that we're

43:03going to potentially take this property,

43:06I have to get the county to say they're

43:08going to be in agreement to forgive the

43:09taxes and then then it starts to move.

43:13Uh but once that happens, I come back to

43:15you and say it's a go

43:18and get titles to the property and we'll

43:20then turn it over to the life bank. We

43:22could do an agreement,

43:24>> you know, agreement.

43:25>> Yes.

43:26I mean, one of the issues, Mike, is that

43:28that there are a number of these

43:31properties that the county just removes

43:34from the tax roles. They don't even tell

43:36us.

43:37>> They [laughter] just do it. So, these

43:40taxes stop occurring.

43:43>> Um, it's better now because I'm involved

43:46a little bit what we're doing. Um, so,

43:50and I work closely with Steve's still

43:52the codes officer here.

43:53>> Yeah. the codes officers in the

43:55communities work I work with them very

43:58closely because you have to and that's

44:00why the list

44:01>> yes

44:01>> when I get a list I I shoot the code hey

44:04what's up on these properties where we

44:06at what's happening the back and forth

44:09so

44:10everybody needs to be involved in order

44:12to get these things done and that and we

44:14all we all want I believe everybody

44:16wants to get these properties cleaned up

44:19>> one way or another

44:22preliminary discussions when you came to

44:24visit me um with the codes offices we

44:27are developing a list and I believe that

44:29we have half a dozen or so and uh we're

44:31working on it so you know we'll get that

44:33together as we build more see where

44:36we're going but like you say we have

44:38there's a lot of criterium

44:38[clears throat]

44:40and process not a lot something we have

44:42to legally go through and secure a

44:45property or agreement the first step is

44:48to get me a list of your wishes and then

44:52I'll take it to the county and say

44:55or my board first and say, "Hey, LA's

44:57got these eight properties." And they're

44:59going to say, "Well, let's do four of

45:00them." And then I go to the county and

45:04say, "Will you re, you know,

45:06forgive the taxes on these four

45:08properties? We're going to work with the

45:09village to tear them down. And then I

45:12come back to the village and say, "It's

45:14a go with the county. If I can get a

45:16written agreement with you folks, we'll

45:18do it. You move forward on your end. the

45:20properties turning.

45:23We'll turn them down.

45:25>> So, how long does it take to climb the

45:27mountain?

45:29>> I'm sorry.

45:29>> You said it's like climbing a mountain.

45:31So, how long does it take?

45:32>> It's going to take me It It'll take me

45:34probably 2 months of paperwork.

45:35>> Okay.

45:36>> Back and forth between the states. Um,

45:38so if you had this stuff to me by uh

45:40January, uh, you're talking March, um, I

45:45have to put things out to bid, but we

45:48want this stuff done.

45:50Sooner is the better.

45:52>> So, we can have a 60 days, 90 days.

45:55>> Mhm.

45:55>> Okay.

45:58>> And we've done a lot of plary work

46:02of this compiler, you know, little down

46:05there. Demolitions are a little once you

46:08have title to them are a little quicker

46:09because it's just the codes officer is

46:11going to give me a letter saying that

46:13you know what it propertyy's conducted

46:16basically and then that

46:19foregoes a bunch of things. If we're

46:22going to rehab the property different

46:24ball game you have my testing which is

46:27asbestous lead and contaminants which is

46:31costly and a pain. Um we did we've done

46:35two so far, one in one for one, one in

46:38low falls. Um remediation for one was

46:42$65,000. Remediation for the other was

46:45$35,000.

46:47Like what they got?

46:49It's crazy.

46:52That's all I got. I just wanted to give

46:54you a briefing and hopefully we can get

46:56some things done, move forward. Um we're

46:59going to work. I I mean the legislators

47:02are involved. Um I don't know is who's

47:05uh who replaced you John?

47:10>> No one yet. You can't talk about it

47:11here.

47:12>> Okay. So work with the legislators and

47:17let me know what you want to do and I'll

47:19work on my end. We'll try and get to the

47:21same result.

47:24>> Okay.

47:28>> All right.

47:30>> Okay. I call a observation survey left

47:34by

47:38>> Thank you, mayor. [clears throat] Thank

47:40you, Mayor. I've lost my voice. It's

47:41been a long day. So, just for the

47:44benefit of the new board members, I just

47:46want to bring everyone up to speed as to

47:48where we were on August 31st. um the

47:51property with the retaining wall um had

47:56been determined that the retaining wall,

47:58the existing Jersey curve wall was

48:02straddling the property line, but we

48:04didn't know for sure that the reports

48:07that we we received during demolition

48:09were that it's you know there was a pin

48:12there, but it's gone now and certain

48:14things got moved on the HSA side. So

48:16bottom line is we need to know for

48:19purposes of the grant JK um exactly

48:22where that line is on the uh on the

48:25north side and on the east side. So you

48:28asked me to put together

48:31request for proposals for those. I I did

48:34that and we received one proposal and

48:38that was from Emer surveying out of

48:41Illen. There were six or seven.

48:45Let's see. 1 2 3 4 five total. I had

48:49seven people on the list. Five of them

48:51responded and they basically said, "See

48:53you in April." Um, so Mike did submit a

48:58proposal and the proposal is not to

49:00exceed $1,500 and do this work quickly.

49:05my concern um and I asked him to define

49:08quickly and he said I probably can get

49:10it done before first week in October if

49:13you need it to close out this grant and

49:15the answer to that is yes we do. So, we

49:18have to get the survey done. Then I've

49:20got Nelson Associates out of Clinton

49:23um BNL and also

49:28Boulder Consulting. Rhy

49:32Harper putting proposals in for the

49:34engineering. We just need the footing uh

49:36the basic footing once we know the

49:39location and then the specs for the wall

49:41itself and but we need that to have a PE

49:44stamp on. So that's the next step for

49:47tonight. All I ask is we keep things

49:50moving forward. Um if you are so

49:53inclined and that would be not to exceed

49:57$1500 proposal from Mike Ems.

50:10>> So we need an option.

50:12>> Yeah.

50:13>> To accept it. Yeah. I'll make a motion

50:16to have Mike do the survey.

50:21>> Let me go for a question.

50:22>> You said he's the only one that can get

50:24it to it for April.

50:26>> Everyone else b I in fact my

50:29understanding is that most of these

50:30other firms are sending their overload

50:34to Mike and he's basically saying I'm

50:37doing this as a favor to get this grant

50:39closed out. That's what he told me.

50:43>> Yeah.

50:43>> Sorry. Where where's the funding coming

50:45from?

50:46>> The grant itself.

50:48>> Yeah. There's no requirement to bid

50:50this. It doesn't exceed your bid

50:52statuto.

50:59Any questions?

51:01>> You good?

51:02>> So, I'll make a motion to have my

51:04emerges company do the survey to get the

51:07grant closed out.

51:10We have a second.

51:14I'll make a second.

51:15>> Any discussion?

51:19>> All those in favor?

51:21>> I

51:24>> Okay.

51:25>> Okay. One one last thing before I

51:27forget. Are you mayor still good for

51:299:00 tomorrow morning?

51:32>> 8:30 9:00.

51:34>> Okay.

51:35>> Okay.

51:36>> Yeah. 8:45. 45.

51:42What are you going to do?

51:43>> Yeah. Long way to walk.

51:44>> All right.

51:46>> Thank you.

51:49>> All right. Very good. Uh, all right.

51:52Public comments. Um,

51:54you set the rules. We'll go out of

51:56there.

51:59>> Lyn August,

52:09>> mayor, board,

52:12employees. I don't know what to call you

52:14guys. My name is Lynn August. I retired

52:18from state service in 2023 after 24

52:21years of combined service in different

52:22agencies. After retirement, all I wanted

52:25to do was return to this area and live

52:27out my life in peace. My new home is

52:30exactly 1.2 miles from the former

52:32Remington Arms site where Turan has

52:34proposed an AI data center that would

52:37ruin the community. Hours before the

52:39last board meeting, there was a drastic

52:41change in public commenting, limiting

52:43residents to two minutes and time by an

52:45associate from the appointed village

52:46attorney. However, JK was allowed to

52:50speak for over 20 minutes in an attempt

52:52to confuse the public and justify the

52:5412-page document/moratorium,

52:58which when stripped down to his

52:59essential provision simply pauses any

53:01development that requires more than 2

53:04megawatts of power from the IMEU.

53:07His document does not place a moratorium

53:10on any development containing

53:11electricity directly from an alternate

53:14provider such as the NYPA, National Grid

53:17or the or by generated electricity from

53:20an on-site gas turbine or micronuclear

53:23reactor.

53:25If this board or the village attorney

53:27actually did any research, they would

53:28know that these are the newest power

53:30sources for AI data centers to avoid

53:33grid delays.

53:35So they want to bypass the electrical

53:37grids. Attorney Hay was given a draft of

53:40a successful moratorum proposal used by

53:43Dryen New York. Another community faced

53:46with the same prospect of a data set.

53:48None of that content was utilized.

53:51Instead, we were given a different

53:52document [laughter] that gives nothing

53:53to nothing to the community.

53:56The the village deserves a date for a

53:59public hearing and we want that to

54:02happen before any decision is voted on

54:04regarding the moratorum so that the

54:06people can have their say.

54:09The moratorum should be in place before

54:12any meeting with Turin LLC with

54:15protections for our health, welfare,

54:18precious resources and updated village

54:21zoning laws to protect future

54:24generations.

54:26Attorney Hay is functioning at the

54:28county level as an electrical consultant

54:30for the application by Turan LLC.

54:34Why is this not a conflict of interest?

54:38I think it's important to thoroughly

54:40research the actions and payments to

54:41Hagen Hag LLC, where they came from, and

54:44the amounts that his services are

54:46costing the village. information that is

54:48not transparent,

54:51but buried across numerous websites and

54:54oil oil attempts are being delayed.

54:57I say every resident should be able to

55:00see what they're getting for their

55:02outrageous taxes.

55:04And that's all I have to say.

55:07Thank you very much.

55:08>> Any responses?

55:14>> None. All right. Thank you.

55:16>> All right. Gosh.

55:18Um,

55:34>> David

55:36Nurat.

55:37>> What's the What's the name? Is it Nat?

55:40Is it Nurat?

55:42Maybe I'm not me. Roseanne.

55:44>> Rosanne. Is that what you Is it

55:46Roseanne?

55:47>> Yeah.

55:48>> Okay. Sorry.

55:50>> Yes. Hello.

55:51>> Hi.

55:52>> My name is Rosanne Nurad. N O R O D.

55:56Okay. Um, I'm just here to review with

55:58the board and to go over some of the

56:00thoughts that I had because we have new

56:02people and a new board and um, we've had

56:05a lot of things that we've talked about

56:07with the data center and different

56:08things going on within the village and I

56:11just wanted to, you know, sort of review

56:12our our thoughts and things that uh, on

56:15the public sides of things that we think

56:16about. So, first of all, transparency

56:19and of course transparency means that

56:22the public has a right to know what is

56:24happening in the village government.

56:26Transparency is not optional. We all

56:28know that. We know that transparency is

56:31part of good governance.

56:34This means that the residents should be

56:36able to ask reasonable questions and

56:39receive clear public answers without

56:42having to search for hours or rely on

56:45foil request. Residents deserve clear

56:49public answers before major decisions

56:52are being made.

56:56We all know that communication is

56:58important. When information is withheld,

57:00delay, or delayed, residents are left to

57:02guess about decisions that affect our

57:05homes, taxes, utilities, and quality of

57:07life.

57:09We are looking for good governance. We

57:11really want to build trust. We want to

57:13strengthen accountability. We want to

57:15support informed decisions between the

57:17government and the members of the

57:19community. And as members of our village

57:22government, we remind you that you are

57:24obligated to share information, verify

57:27facts, and to ask what and to act on

57:31what best serves the people of Illan.

57:35So in conclusion, responsible government

57:38is also responsive. It requires clear

57:42answers about things that impact the

57:44community. We we really expect those

57:46answers, but we are not requesting those

57:49favors. We want accountability.

57:52We want to protect our community. And we

57:55ask you to place our interests above the

57:57corporate greed, to fulfill your duties,

58:00and to do your job.

58:03I had a couple of questions and I didn't

58:04know if I had time to add them because I

58:06thought we only had two minutes. So, if

58:09it's okay, I'll just add them. So,

58:11number one, with the uh proposed

58:13moratorum, does it apply to the current

58:15Turan Remington data center?

58:19Number two, where in the document does

58:21it state that a data center cannot be

58:24built if it's powered by alternative

58:26forms of energy? Number three, where

58:30does the moratorum address updating the

58:33updated codes and zoning? And if they

58:35are updated, will turn be required to

58:38comply with them? And finally, on which

58:41page does the moratorum address issues

58:44such as noise, vibrations, bright

58:46lighting, and utility impacts associated

58:48with data centers? Thank you.

58:51>> Thank you.

58:55>> Any any questions, comments?

59:00>> Thank you.

59:02>> Thank you, James.

59:06[clears throat]

59:12Good evening.

59:14I know we have been here a number of

59:15times. Jim Hopel

59:18um I agree with our other speakers here

59:22tonight about the moratorum. We need to

59:24get that done. But I'm going to rehash

59:27something I've spoke to this board many

59:29times before and that's our codes. Okay.

59:32The last administration, I brought this

59:35to the attention number of times.

59:39Nothing is ever done. Okay. I spoke to

59:42our current mayor outside of a formal

59:45meeting like this about these things. He

59:48told me to give him pictures and I did.

59:52I gave him two pictures of abandoned

59:54cars that been abandoned for years.

59:56Okay. On location and they are still

59:59sitting in the same spot.

1:00:02Now, I don't know if that's a codes

1:00:04enforcement problem or what, but it's

1:00:08very clear that anything that's there no

1:00:10longer than 6 months is an abandoned car

1:00:13and should be handled.

1:00:16>> Starting with a $50 up to $250 fine and

1:00:20then weekly that fine can be imposed

1:00:23every time. So, there's no reason why we

1:00:25have abandoned cars in this village.

1:00:28Okay,

1:00:28>> James, what's the address on that? Oh,

1:00:30>> he's got

1:00:32>> I don't have off the top of my head.

1:00:34>> Okay.

1:00:37Okay. And of course, my other one, and

1:00:42attorney Hank could tell you is my

1:00:44lumber yard there up on second street.

1:00:46Now, the last time we went through this,

1:00:48I was told by the codes officer they

1:00:51couldn't do anything because they can't

1:00:54prove it's a business. It's a guy's

1:00:56hobby. Okay, that's what he told me.

1:00:58this hobby. [sighs] Well, yesterday I

1:01:01saw somebody else helping the guy with

1:01:04his hobby. So, I don't know any hobbies

1:01:06where you need help. Okay, it's

1:01:08obviously he has some kind of business

1:01:11going on. No one else could burn or use

1:01:14that wood himself. He's got it be having

1:01:18a business and the business is not

1:01:20allowed in that area. So, I don't know

1:01:23why it takes so long for this to be

1:01:26addressed by the board. The last word, I

1:01:29don't know if they were best buddies

1:01:30with the guy or what, but

1:01:33they should be taken care of. Okay. And

1:01:35of course, the last one is the easiest

1:01:38one. You can see it going down the

1:01:40streets, and that's people still leaving

1:01:42their totes out from the house when

1:01:44they're not collection day. Okay. Again,

1:01:49that's a findable uh code offense.

1:01:53Village needs money. find these people

1:01:55until they move from behind their homes.

1:01:57It's that simple.

1:02:00I don't know what the interaction is.

1:02:01Okay, so that's what I have for you

1:02:04today.

1:02:05>> Thank you, James. Thank you.

1:02:23Jack.

1:02:36>> Hi guys.

1:02:37>> Hi. Um, I know most of you know me um by

1:02:40now, but I'm Jackie Sweeney. for those

1:02:41who don't. Um there's been a lot of

1:02:44animosity with discussions regarding an

1:02:46AI data center, a moratorum, zoning and

1:02:50codes. And the reality is doesn't have

1:02:52to be with personal feelings at all.

1:02:53It's not about any of that. There's been

1:02:56decisions that have been made that

1:02:57people feel very frustrated about.

1:02:59There's finances that people have

1:03:00questions about. We're digging for hours

1:03:02and can't find information as somebody

1:03:04had already touched on. The reality is

1:03:07we've had multiple businesses that have

1:03:09come through Illan for that Remington

1:03:11property and left us with a brownfield.

1:03:13They were never held responsible for

1:03:14that. Our tax dollars are now being

1:03:16invested into cleaning up. Number one.

1:03:19Number two, whether somebody is for or

1:03:22against a data center is not as relevant

1:03:27as the fact that every single person

1:03:29sitting up here right now should want to

1:03:32protect the constituents in this

1:03:34village. including themselves, including

1:03:36their families by ensuring that any sort

1:03:40of development is responsible

1:03:42development. This moratorum, this large

1:03:45electric load moratorum, local law does

1:03:49not do that. what this should be. We

1:03:53know that for those who don't

1:03:55understand, I want to make this really

1:03:56clear. We do not need a moratorum in

1:03:59order to address the zoning codes and

1:04:02comprehensive planning. But those things

1:04:04are not being addressed. So the

1:04:05moratorum while they are will protect us

1:04:09from anything happening so that we can

1:04:11ensure that these updates are hacked for

1:04:14these new age technology industries that

1:04:16our zoning and code do not currently

1:04:18address. We have children. We have

1:04:21elderly, handicapped, day-to-day folks

1:04:24that live here surrounding that

1:04:26property. And the fact that we have not

1:04:28taken the responsibility to really be

1:04:30concerned about this is a problem. We

1:04:32have applications that are in that

1:04:34specifically say data center. Regardless

1:04:36of whether it's proposed or not, we're

1:04:38doing a brownfield cleanup with our tax

1:04:40dollars on a property with the intent of

1:04:43a data center. So playing the game of

1:04:44that's not a concern and not taking the

1:04:46zoning and codes issue seriously is

1:04:49concerning. The moratorium that should

1:04:51be presented and I have researched this

1:04:53and I've talked to people all over the

1:04:55place and the moratorium that should be

1:04:58in place to protect us from any permits

1:05:00happening should specifically be

1:05:03regarding the development, construction

1:05:06and operation of data centers and

1:05:08commercial cryptocurrency mining

1:05:09operations within this village.

1:05:12Regardless of anything, I understand

1:05:14that there is some testy subjects with

1:05:16this. This is not about combating

1:05:18anymore. This is about taking some

1:05:19serious consideration for the people of

1:05:21this village. Yes, we bought the

1:05:23property zoned, surveyed a certain way,

1:05:25whatever the case is, but we haven't

1:05:27been protected. We haven't been

1:05:28considered and it and we all live here.

1:05:32We all live here.

1:05:34I just really hope that the health,

1:05:37safety, well-being, and the future of us

1:05:40is considered in this going forward. It

1:05:43has to be. It doesn't need to be against

1:05:46and for anyone for and against a data

1:05:48center should really want this. They

1:05:51really should. And and I I can't

1:05:52emphasize more, but I really hope that

1:05:54you guys really think about this. And

1:05:56this more time presented tonight, isn't

1:05:58it? It shouldn't even be wasted on a

1:05:59public hearing. So,

1:06:02>> thank you. Thank you.

1:06:13>> All right. Good job everybody.

1:06:21um

1:06:30and want to do this one at a time. Yes.

1:06:34>> Okay.

1:06:35So, we need a motion to accept the

1:06:38reservation of Brianna Street from the

1:06:40recreation commission. Do I have a

1:06:41motion?

1:06:44I'll make a motion. I'll second. All in

1:06:47favor?

1:06:48>> I

1:06:51also a recreation uh commission

1:06:54appointment Marcel.

1:06:57Um do I have a motion?

1:06:59>> I make a motion.

1:07:01>> Second. I don't

1:07:04Is Marcel here tonight?

1:07:07>> No, she's not.

1:07:10>> I'll make a motion.

1:07:11>> Did she send in a letter?

1:07:15Did you send a letter?

1:07:16>> I have a letter.

1:07:20Oh, I'm not.

1:07:24>> All right. [clears throat]

1:07:27>> All right. So, we have a motion. We

1:07:29accept. We have discussion.

1:07:32>> All right.

1:07:33>> Um

1:07:37is All right.

1:07:38I'm going to make the ro of extension

1:07:41until I get the formal

1:07:44>> letter. All right. So my understanding

1:07:48uh

1:07:49>> yeah all right so that's what we're

1:07:50going to do it's not going to

1:07:53>> uh

1:07:56it was not in the beginning

1:07:59>> she was one of the first five to

1:08:05>> yeah

1:08:07weeks ago she

1:08:09>> needed you guys have it in there 8 weeks

1:08:12ago

1:08:13>> no I just want to you know sugar make

1:08:16want to see it.

1:08:17>> Yeah, I think we've sent it to all.

1:08:19>> Yeah, we call it here to see it as well.

1:08:25>> I can pull it up

1:08:27>> cuz we can't function more.

1:08:29>> We got four people right now,

1:08:33>> but this is our shipping. So,

1:08:41there's been so much movement on that

1:08:42back and forth. Here

1:08:48is an area.

1:09:10I'm sorry.

1:09:17Um, this is Marcela Taylor. This is

1:09:20Marcel.

1:09:20>> Yeah, she just got married Friday.

1:09:24>> Yeah, the emails from 8 weeks ago.

1:09:31>> Is that an issue?

1:09:40Um I don't know the person. Um

1:09:45I feel the same if you have

1:09:49I'm going to

1:09:51watch for um one more time

1:09:56but it's been a long time and so much

1:09:59going back and forth. So, um I'm hoping

1:10:02that by that time we get it going.

1:10:05We'll have a special meeting get any

1:10:08other discussion.

1:10:10All right. So, we're going to table that

1:10:25way up.

1:10:32It's becoming troubling, but I'm just

1:10:33going to say that.

1:10:35>> Very troubling.

1:10:36>> She's a very girl school teacher who

1:10:38works with the athletic and I don't know

1:10:39what problems are.

1:10:40>> I'm just going to leave it at that. I

1:10:42don't know.

1:10:43>> All right. Yes.

1:10:47>> Well,

1:10:49have a reintroduction.

1:10:51>> Yeah, we're limited to time activities

1:10:53and she's on board.

1:10:54>> Yeah, we'll have to see. I just want to

1:10:56have three.

1:10:58>> We just had two two of us.

1:11:01>> So it takes two.

1:11:03>> I am going to make a comment.

1:11:08>> I'm not known for that.

1:11:12>> This has been for whatever reason this

1:11:14one

1:11:15commission has been

1:11:18the only one that I feel has been

1:11:20singled out for whatever reason. I don't

1:11:21have any clue. Don't know why. I'm just

1:11:23going to plain simply say it broad speak

1:11:26and I don't like it. I don't know why we

1:11:28have to conduct business. We got a lot

1:11:30going on. If there's policy issues um or

1:11:33whatever, I would like to know about it.

1:11:35Um because enough is enough.

1:11:45>> It was it was a movie and moving car. We

1:11:47had a lot of moving targets and we're

1:11:49not going to have these cars anymore.

1:11:50>> That was a problem,

1:11:51>> right? We're not going to have them

1:11:52anymore.

1:11:53Well, you asked if she had a letter. She

1:11:55submitted the letter. I passed the

1:11:56letter. She submitted the 8 weeks ago,

1:11:58Dan. And she works with your wife as a

1:12:00school teacher and we still can't get

1:12:01her to vote. Somebody's just trying to

1:12:10for

1:12:10>> Thank you.

1:12:11One, two,

1:12:23>> one. Thank you. Get to work.

1:12:25>> Thank you.

1:12:29>> All right.

1:12:31[clears throat]

1:12:36Treasure.

1:12:38>> Did you want to talk about the change

1:12:40order? uh water distribution improvement

1:12:42phase two change order number 14. Okay.

1:12:45So off the top my head is for complete

1:12:47order for Rosel. Yep.

1:12:49>> Correct.

1:12:50An additional

1:12:53$30,000 has been requested. Um the

1:12:55reason we're order I don't get a chance

1:12:57to look at it from a repair of valves to

1:13:01an actual replacement of valves. Um thus

1:13:05the increase um so I just need approval

1:13:07for that increase of the antib. These

1:13:10ros valves are in the distribution

1:13:13system. Um they regulate

1:13:16flow of pressure from the system to help

1:13:18with pressure deviations which lead to

1:13:22main grades dispel stuff like that.

1:13:24They've been a long established part of

1:13:26the system. This is engineer recommended

1:13:28and uh water personnel recommended as

1:13:31well. So, we're looking for a motion to

1:13:34accept the change order of $30,000 so we

1:13:37can purchase the Ros

1:13:39hopefully within the next few weeks.

1:13:42>> I can make a motion

1:13:44second. Um, any discussion?

1:13:47>> All right. Anybody opposed?

1:13:49>> All right. All in favor? I

1:13:54>> All right. NA semianual meeting proxy

1:13:59resolution.

1:14:00Okay. Okay. Um Mary playing together.

1:14:04Nya is our uh elected representative. Am

1:14:07I correct?

1:14:08>> Yeah. Each year Nya and NEUA have their

1:14:12well the one has their annual

1:14:13conference. The other one is semianual.

1:14:15Um nobody after looking at the agenda

1:14:17for the meeting. Um nobody's attending

1:14:19from the electric department. So we just

1:14:21need a proxy resolution approved. So the

1:14:24board

1:14:25>> and what they do the proxy is they

1:14:26voting them.

1:14:27>> Yeah. They're voting me on and I think

1:14:29we've done this before.

1:14:31>> Oh, yeah. Many times.

1:14:32>> So, we need a vote if we're actually

1:14:34going to do a process or we have

1:14:36somebody that we're going to point. We

1:14:37haven't reached that.

1:14:38>> Yep. So, it be like for the Neto would

1:14:40be their board.

1:14:41>> Okay.

1:14:41>> And for MUA it would be their board for

1:14:44the set of us.

1:14:45>> Okay.

1:14:48>> Um

1:14:49we do have to look at the

1:14:54they always like they work for us. So,

1:14:58>> but it's on the agenda there.

1:15:01>> The um NIPO is the New York Municipal

1:15:05Power Agency,

1:15:06>> right? Y

1:15:07>> that buys spot power on the open market

1:15:14and we

1:15:16sometimes have to buy power.

1:15:20And when before Nuba was formed, uh we

1:15:26had to buy uh power individually.

1:15:30Each municipal utility would go out to

1:15:33the spot market for its needs. And it

1:15:37was expensive because

1:15:39one village doesn't have a lot of buying

1:15:42power in the whole national and it's

1:15:46actually an international market. So we

1:15:48formed NPA

1:15:51many years ago to give ourselves a a a

1:15:55large number of municipal utilities so

1:15:59we could buy spot power in

1:16:02>> well as opposed to a single buyer

1:16:03>> as opposed to a single buyer

1:16:05>> and uh it it works well with uh Illiam's

1:16:10one of the founding members. Um I I was

1:16:14involved in that. It was a good thing.

1:16:17It still is. Uh Illen is transitioning

1:16:21over to be a full requirements customer

1:16:26of the New York Power Authority

1:16:29because the New York Power Authority is

1:16:32the only source of power generation

1:16:37left in New York. Um

1:16:41uh and we think that uh Illiam would do

1:16:46much better with the power authority

1:16:49because we get when you're a full

1:16:51requirements customer of the power

1:16:54authority, you get preferential

1:16:57um pricing and you get preferential

1:17:01treatment in the queue for who's going

1:17:05to get.

1:17:07So uh I think there's no harm in giving

1:17:12our proxy. This would effectively give

1:17:16Illiam's voting proxy to the board of

1:17:20Nima

1:17:22um for their annual meeting. In in the

1:17:25old days, we used to go to all the

1:17:26meetings, but uh

1:17:28>> so we just delegate to the NA

1:17:30>> to the NPA board

1:17:32>> and and there's going to be another

1:17:34resolution I think after this one to

1:17:37give our proxy to the MEUA which is the

1:17:41other I mean this electric utility assoc

1:17:44>> but it just doesn't state what those

1:17:46transactions are.

1:17:47>> Yeah, we don't we don't know what it is.

1:17:49We're giving them a general proxy. Yeah.

1:17:52>> Yeah.

1:17:54just for that one meeting. Bye.

1:17:57>> JK, you were saying that uh we should

1:17:59have discussions on

1:18:02uh the benefits of possibly moving to um

1:18:06NI or how you say

1:18:10>> NY lot of NYP.

1:18:17Yeah, I'd like to hear more on that.

1:18:20>> All right. Um so resolutions

1:18:24MEUA executive committee president

1:18:26delegate at a regular meeting of the

1:18:28build board of trustees of the build New

1:18:30York held on September 14th 2026 the

1:18:33following resolution uh was adopted um

1:18:37was adopted right whereas building board

1:18:38of trustees of building New York is a

1:18:41municipal member of the municipal

1:18:42electric utilities association of New

1:18:44York State and whereas the annual

1:18:46conference of the municipal electrical

1:18:47utilities association of New York State

1:18:49has been called on September 20th

1:18:52through 30th

1:18:532026 we held the alien lab New York and

1:18:56whereas in accordance with the bylaws

1:18:58and municipal electric utilities

1:19:01association of New York state each

1:19:03municipal member may cast one vote by

1:19:05each transaction properly before this

1:19:07meeting. Now therefore be resolved that

1:19:10UA executive committee president B and

1:19:12is hereby designated as the credit

1:19:14delegate of the bill

1:19:17motion to accept that resolution.

1:19:22>> Oh you got

1:19:26>> that.

1:19:30All right we got a motion. All right

1:19:33second.

1:19:34>> All right. All in favor? I cared. Then

1:19:38we have a second resolution.

1:19:42It's a proxy one New York misal

1:19:46proxy development.

1:19:50>> All right. Mr. New York power and

1:19:53regular board of trustees of Billy New

1:19:56York 146

1:19:59resolution was adopted.

1:20:01Whereas the board of trustees of Bill

1:20:03Gilly in New York is a municipal member

1:20:04of the New York Municipal Power Agency.

1:20:06And whereas a semianual meeting of the

1:20:08agency will be held on September 28th,

1:20:102026 in the New York. And whereas in

1:20:14accordance with the bylaws of New York

1:20:15Municipal Power Agency, each municipal

1:20:18member may pass one vote in each

1:20:19transaction properly brought before this

1:20:21meeting. Now therefore be resolved that

1:20:23the MIPA for record is hereby designated

1:20:27as a credited delegate for those willing

1:20:31motion

1:20:36second.

1:20:38All in favor?

1:20:39>> I

1:20:44um

1:20:46heard.

1:20:48>> All right, guys.

1:21:00>> No, we have the next change order.

1:21:02There's another change order number one.

1:21:06Change order number one that is four.

1:21:09>> That's for the transmission lining

1:21:10project. Transmission lining. Okay.

1:21:14>> All right. We have a change order uh for

1:21:16the this is the water department

1:21:18improvement uh project. It is for the

1:21:21lining of the major transmission lines.

1:21:25Um

1:21:29yep. Uh major transmission lines coming

1:21:31down the treatment plant. uh they are

1:21:34some of the oldest uh pipes in the

1:21:37system and this is a uh better

1:21:39maintenance uh type thing to prevent

1:21:42them from leaking or uh plugging up.

1:21:44It's part of the overall distribution

1:21:46improvement. There was a change order um

1:21:51that's being requested from Luigi. They

1:21:54were the sole biders um

1:21:57Luigi, sorry. Luigi and uh

1:22:02Luzi and uh my understanding was they

1:22:05were the soul biders and the engineer um

1:22:08recommended that uh we consider strongly

1:22:11approving the uh change order as um he

1:22:15feels that you know they're reputable.

1:22:17They've worked with us and they're

1:22:18really the only one that put them in.

1:22:19They cannot find anybody else who work.

1:22:22So I have a chance to look at the um

1:22:27spoke

1:22:34>> I will second

1:22:37any discussion.

1:22:40>> All right. All in favor?

1:22:42>> I I

1:22:45think I'm sorry.

1:22:48>> So that carries and that's good. And

1:22:51that

1:22:53>> no mayor also um I forgot to ask ask the

1:22:56clerk to add on the agenda purchase of

1:22:58the owl.

1:22:59>> Okay. So

1:23:00>> all right

1:23:03that's doing our video taping and uh

1:23:05recording uh live streaming. Not now,

1:23:08but it will hopefully by the next uh

1:23:10meeting. Adding to the transparency and

1:23:12accountability, you'll be able to live

1:23:14stream and view the uh board meetings on

1:23:18YouTube, I believe, andor Facebook, am I

1:23:20correct? And or website.

1:23:22>> Yep.

1:23:23>> Okay. Um

1:23:24>> I'll make a motion to purchase.

1:23:27>> All right. A second. Second. All right.

1:23:29Any discussion?

1:23:34Yeah.

1:23:37All right. That's good.

1:23:41All right. Anything else?

1:23:43>> No, I'm done.

1:23:44>> All right. So, we don't have any

1:23:46commission on reports. We don't have any

1:23:49appointments. All right. Now, we're on

1:23:51old business.

1:24:03Sorry.

1:24:04underg

1:24:19um approval of August 31st, 2026

1:24:23minutes. Take an opportunity to look at

1:24:25what we had.

1:24:33These two have to be used.

1:24:40>> The next one.

1:24:41>> All right. So, Dan, you said made a

1:24:43motion.

1:24:43>> Yeah. Dan makes a motion to approval.

1:24:47>> I'll second.

1:24:48>> All right. All in favor?

1:24:54>> Now we have Joe.

1:24:59>> She get what? Diane

1:25:02sentence

1:25:05basically.

1:25:09>> Yeah. Same thing.

1:25:10>> Yeah.

1:25:11>> Yeah. Make sure you hear them.

1:25:14>> Yep.

1:25:17>> Okay. Then we have the approval of the

1:25:19August 10th, 2026 board meeting minutes.

1:25:23Anybody here?

1:25:28Two.

1:25:28>> Yep. All right. So, plus three. All in

1:25:31favor? Hi.

1:25:33>> Hi.

1:25:37All right.

1:26:01>> Oh, I got it on here.

1:26:03Okay.

1:26:05>> I got it. All right. So, approval of the

1:26:08Remington signing fishing club. Uh for

1:26:12those who don't know what's going on

1:26:14heard, uh the Remington signed at the

1:26:16marina um is weathering and we're

1:26:19looking to preserve it. Uh he had a

1:26:23offer from the fishing game club to have

1:26:26it uh stored up there. Um you're

1:26:30obviously a tiger between team and uh

1:26:33the fishing game club. Um

1:26:37we we did discuss some other options but

1:26:39I guess that um turned out to be what

1:26:42we're discussing now remotion

1:26:46that we allow um the remnant sign to

1:26:49walk the fishing game club for um

1:26:53storage and restoration.

1:26:55>> I believe it's not historic. They'll be

1:26:56given.

1:26:57>> It's displayed on display.

1:26:59>> Display. Is anybody Are they going to

1:27:01take ownership of it? They're

1:27:03>> donating it to

1:27:04>> They're donating it.

1:27:05>> Okay.

1:27:06>> So, I'll make a motion to donate the

1:27:08Remington sign to the Fishing Game Club

1:27:11and it

1:27:12>> any discussion.

1:27:16>> Okay. Um,

1:27:18any ns?

1:27:20>> No. All in favor?

1:27:21>> Yes. I I just want to say we have very

1:27:23little artifacts left from Remington and

1:27:26uh I think it'd be well taken care of up

1:27:28there

1:27:30by the

1:27:33new business, right?

1:27:36>> Not new business.

1:27:39All right. for some application for a

1:27:42dance fundraiser at the auditorium on

1:27:44October 16th from 6:00 p.m. to 10 p.m.

1:27:48Applications submitted by Matthew Muso

1:27:51CV poper

1:27:53chair are all

1:27:56uh trustees aware of the application. Uh

1:28:00any

1:28:01>> we should be in your packet in the back.

1:28:04>> Any questions discussion concern? Yes.

1:28:09Yes,

1:28:13>> I hear none.

1:28:15>> I'll make a motion to allow the dance

1:28:16here since they are on the application

1:28:19saying that they're going to have 30 to

1:28:2060 people chating and we also have a new

1:28:25sheet Mary Joe from

1:28:29send it over to us to relieve us from

1:28:31any responsibility.

1:28:33I haven't seen that.

1:28:34>> I CCD you in it or he CCD you in it and

1:28:37you were gonna print make you got back

1:28:39Friday or Monday.

1:28:40>> Okay.

1:28:41>> Well, Chief Deval had like a list of you

1:28:44know concerns here. I didn't know if you

1:28:47guys wanted to hear it or not.

1:28:50>> Um you you want to read it to us?

1:28:52>> Not really. Your department.

1:28:55[laughter]

1:29:01>> All right. So first she notes that proof

1:29:04of liability insurance should be

1:29:05required by all users.

1:29:07>> Y

1:29:07>> adequate number of adult chaperones are

1:29:09absolutely required.

1:29:10>> Yeah, there are 60 to 60.

1:29:15>> The police department cannot be

1:29:16responsible for monitoring a popcorn or

1:29:18dance. Weekends are busy and shifts are

1:29:19stacked at minimum compliment. H having

1:29:21a police department next door does not

1:29:23mean officers will keep an eye on

1:29:24things.

1:29:25>> Uh the police department is located

1:29:27along the northernmost set of windows in

1:29:28the auditorium. The back entrance to the

1:29:30police department can become very busy

1:29:32place when we have people in custody and

1:29:34need to move them around to avoid

1:29:35contact with other prisoners or victims.

1:29:38The police department parking lot is

1:29:39just as busy. Dances are held in the

1:29:41evening hours. Uh are they going to be

1:29:43providing chaperoons outside making sure

1:29:45the children remain away from or out of

1:29:47the police parking lot parking lot. The

1:29:50last thing anyone would want is for a

1:29:52child to be struck by a police vehicle

1:29:53responding to a call or someone else

1:29:55driving into the police parking lot for

1:29:56an emergency.

1:29:58Are they limiting or monitoring the

1:30:00number of attendees? What can the

1:30:02building safely and properly hold within

1:30:03the auditorium area? The building itself

1:30:06is aged and no longer appropriate for

1:30:07dances. The ceiling needs repairs above

1:30:09the stage and is noticeably crumbling

1:30:11out of the stage flooring due to

1:30:13problems involving the roof. Children

1:30:16never stay off the stage. It's too

1:30:17tempting. Are we prepared for the

1:30:19liability if a child jumps, falls, or

1:30:20somehow manages to become injured while

1:30:22playing or sitting on the stage? The

1:30:25flooring in the auditorium isn't well

1:30:27sealed, well protected if drinks or food

1:30:29were spilled on them. It's also slippery

1:30:31when it gets wet. The entryway into the

1:30:33building is all railings and stairs.

1:30:35Keeping children off those locations is

1:30:37a difficult task, assuming the

1:30:39individuals hosting the dance have

1:30:40enough shaper inside the auditorium

1:30:42itself. They will also have to ensure

1:30:44direct adult supervision with within the

1:30:46entryway areas of the building.

1:30:50She states she responded to a call

1:30:51several years ago involving a child who

1:30:54was sitting on the railing with several

1:30:55other children when she fell backwards

1:30:57and sustained injuries of struck in the

1:30:58concrete basement floor below. Children

1:31:01don't ever think about bad things

1:31:02happening until they do. Thankfully, on

1:31:04the date, the child only sustained a

1:31:06broken arm. It could have been far

1:31:08worse. I believe the incident occurred

1:31:09at a dance held in the auditorium. I

1:31:12believe may it might have been one of

1:31:14the last dances held in the auditorium.

1:31:19That's from Chief as well.

1:31:20>> Well, there's a second

1:31:24she did send that over to all of us.

1:31:28>> Um, so yeah. So, um,

1:31:32>> thank you.

1:31:36[sighs and gasps]

1:31:36>> Go ahead.

1:31:37>> Okay.

1:31:38Um, so yeah, so I did really draw that

1:31:40based on that. I feel like she

1:31:42summarized it as they needed enough and

1:31:44based on their application. I would

1:31:46motion yes as long as they understand

1:31:47all of that.

1:31:50>> Mr. Attorney, did you write a uh

1:31:54liability waiver or whatever?

1:31:56>> I believe I can't believe

1:31:59>> gay sanitary.

1:32:01>> I'm going to throw something crazy.

1:32:04>> This place is hot. very hot. It's never

1:32:09cool. So, you're going to have a bunch

1:32:11of We're going to allow a bunch of how

1:32:14are they?

1:32:16>> It's cheerleaders. Pop water and cheer.

1:32:18>> It's popcorn cheerleaders.

1:32:19>> 14, 15 year old girls.

1:32:21>> I'm going to assume

1:32:23>> jumping dancing around

1:32:27>> in here in 80° heat.

1:32:29>> It says 30 to 60 chaps.

1:32:32>> It does wonder. I'm saying no children.

1:32:36>> Okay.

1:32:38>> 120.

1:32:42>> That's a lot of children.

1:32:48>> We're not

1:32:50here for many many years.

1:32:53>> All right. I uh

1:32:58>> I think there's an issue with the uh

1:33:00liability whether or not we have it,

1:33:02both have it. I don't have it in front

1:33:04of me. Um I have no problem submitted.

1:33:06This is not in front of us. I would like

1:33:08to take a look at that and be sure of

1:33:10the uh

1:33:11>> Mary Joe right here from Gabi.

1:33:15Okay.

1:33:15>> It says, "Hi, I looked up a quick waiver

1:33:18and general release."

1:33:22>> We all are.

1:33:25>> So I guess I again um

1:33:29[clears throat] how do you feel about

1:33:30that? Are you aware enough? I know I'm

1:33:33getting

1:33:36you feel that look at it or

1:33:39>> Well, it's very important that there be

1:33:42adequate insurance coverage.

1:33:43>> Yep.

1:33:44>> Have we received any?

1:33:45>> Well, we haven't approved yet.

1:33:47>> Well, that's true.

1:33:49>> And it's I think two two or three. So we

1:33:52come up with a set of rules as one to

1:33:56address issues that

1:34:00have their own children are not allowed

1:34:01on the stairs. We're not on that or can

1:34:04we compose

1:34:06this and give it to them in agreeance

1:34:08and they give us the only reason I'm

1:34:10saying we can't really we can't table

1:34:12this date

1:34:13>> when the beginning we have to really I

1:34:17mean they have to put it out there in

1:34:20all fairness with their fundraisers for

1:34:22>> this this room is not

1:34:26>> done this type of activity in this

1:34:27building before

1:34:30>> years ago we problem as we talk about.

1:34:33Are there any other groups that have

1:34:36applied that have similar problems?

1:34:38>> Nothing that

1:34:39>> just the Christmas stuff that I have at

1:34:40Raider and that's more than 120 people.

1:34:49>> We just got to be uniform. I believe

1:34:51this is my personal thing. We got to be

1:34:53uniform and not arbitrary preachers.

1:34:55That's my favorite words. um against

1:34:58anybody that wants to rent if if they

1:35:01follow the rules that we establish

1:35:04um have insurance or whatever. I can't

1:35:06see why a person should be singled out

1:35:08or denied for possible things that may

1:35:11happen. That's just me. If we can make

1:35:13if we can make the assurance

1:35:16that things are uh that we're legally

1:35:19protected, then by all means, and I

1:35:21guess I I'll again a relation to the

1:35:24attorney if you feel that at that point.

1:35:26I I guess I can go in favor if we are

1:35:28not I I feel we have to do business.

1:35:31So I don't know if you can make that

1:35:32determination tonight or do you feel you

1:35:35have to have but we can't we don't have

1:35:37much we don't

1:35:38>> we'd have to deal with uh

1:35:39>> we got time

1:35:40>> well I'm not I'm not going to pass

1:35:42something out of urgency and be liable.

1:35:43I'm just not going to do that. I I

1:35:46understand

1:35:47>> and I'll try to do my best to uh get

1:35:50this going. They So we would put

1:35:53everything they would have to handle

1:35:54clean up just like when we do the

1:35:56Christmas event, we clean it up.

1:35:58>> They are there. They just use this

1:36:00restroom here.

1:36:01>> That restroom. Yep. And so when we do

1:36:04the Christmas event, it's packed in

1:36:06here. And they just use the bathroom

1:36:08there. We only use that front door for

1:36:10entrances, not the sides.

1:36:13>> And we're okay just having one bathroom

1:36:15with one toilet.

1:36:16>> Yeah.

1:36:16>> And don't have to be that you.

1:36:17>> No. Yeah.

1:36:18>> You know, they come back on us. We we

1:36:21don't have many facilities for for the

1:36:24youth to to do it. I mean, that's a big

1:36:27problem. That's something that,

1:36:29>> you know, I think we should work on as a

1:36:30board eventually. That has nothing to do

1:36:32with tonight, but that that's that's a

1:36:33problem. Um,

1:36:36>> downtown

1:36:38vehicles to walk that come from the

1:36:40projects that want to be able to

1:36:41>> The last the last thing I want to do is

1:36:43say no to any group or organization or

1:36:46volunteers or whatever. I understand

1:36:48liability. I understand uh protection

1:36:50the whole nine yards. Um we got to do a

1:36:53better job. We got to have more things

1:36:54in place. Last minute things aren't

1:36:56good. I guess it's not really our

1:37:00whatever. Um all I can promise this is

1:37:02just my I'll do the best I can. If you

1:37:05can get that information to me, I will

1:37:07have to call

1:37:09I don't know a special meeting or

1:37:12>> Well, how about why can't we make a

1:37:14motion if Right. So I can make a motion.

1:37:18Correct. So I'll make a motion that if

1:37:20they can apply or um supply us with the

1:37:24correct insurance, they can follow the

1:37:26rules that change the ball will compile

1:37:29and that they will have the chaffron to

1:37:32handle the group

1:37:34and that Gab's page covers us. Then we

1:37:38should say yes, that's me. Okay.

1:37:40>> I think you did that.

1:37:41>> Thank you. Thank you, J. I I

1:37:44can do it too,

1:37:45>> right?

1:37:47>> Yeah.

1:37:47>> I also

1:37:50>> Okay.

1:37:53>> Okay. All in favor of motion.

1:37:59>> You understand what the motion is?

1:38:01>> Well, it's conditional. It's

1:38:03conditional.

1:38:04>> So, it's they Well, it's right. It's

1:38:06approved for giving us insurance. Gabe,

1:38:09she obviously don't sign.

1:38:13[sighs]

1:38:14>> So it is conditional. Yes.

1:38:18>> You got a second.

1:38:20>> Yeah.

1:38:22>> All right. So now I guess no discussion.

1:38:25So vote all in favor. Anybody?

1:38:33Okay.

1:38:34>> So it's 1 2 3 4. Thank you everyone.

1:38:38passes. All right. Uh, now we're on to

1:38:41the large electric Walmart

1:38:44number three.

1:38:46All right. We have uh the chloros

1:38:50the uh

1:38:53draft.

1:38:55Hopefully I trust the opportunity to

1:38:58look at discuss it.

1:39:01>> Yeah. Um and I guess we go to uh any

1:39:05discussion.

1:39:07Um

1:39:08>> I have questions. Sure.

1:39:10>> Um

1:39:14first

1:39:20paragraph. Okay.

1:39:22where it says the pilgrimage to serve

1:39:24increased accelerated interest in

1:39:26developers, data center operators,

1:39:29artificial intelligence, infrastructure

1:39:31providers, cryptocurrency,

1:39:33mining operations, large scale battery

1:39:35manufacturing facilities, no industrial

1:39:38users.

1:39:41Is that true? Do we have that? I mean, I

1:39:44mean, do not we just turn around that as

1:39:46far as any application yet?

1:39:51that anybody knows of in paragraph JK in

1:39:54paragraph page one paragraph

1:39:57>> section 2A

1:40:00>> it said the village has observed

1:40:02increasing accelerating interest from

1:40:04developers etc about half

1:40:08>> yeah I see that that the village has

1:40:11observed increasing accelerating

1:40:13interest

1:40:14>> can't hear I can't hear

1:40:17>> what was your question well has Turan

1:40:20received any application for any

1:40:22business yet? And as far as I know, they

1:40:25have not.

1:40:27>> Has Turin received it?

1:40:29>> Yes.

1:40:30>> The village.

1:40:31>> You mean has the village received any

1:40:34application? Is that what

1:40:37does Turing have any um any proposed

1:40:40businesses or tenants that want to

1:40:41occupy the building is is what I

1:40:44>> Not that not that we know of.

1:40:46>> Yeah. Okay. And and so that I just

1:40:49wanted clarification on that first

1:40:51statement. Where is that

1:40:54coming from the um observed I I think

1:40:58it's coming from speculation from the

1:41:00public, but is it coming from actual

1:41:02businesses?

1:41:03>> They're actually advertising actively

1:41:05online.

1:41:06>> Who is

1:41:09Google?

1:41:12They turn the all over.

1:41:16Well, Google turn management

1:41:21has applied to the NYSO

1:41:26>> for power

1:41:27>> for 500 megawatt of power.

1:41:29>> But as far as a business, a type of

1:41:30business, that's what I'm

1:41:31>> for this location.

1:41:33>> Yeah.

1:41:34>> Well, the only thing that would use 500

1:41:36megawatt of power would be a steel mill

1:41:40and an aluminum smoking plant, a data

1:41:44center.

1:41:45So, one of the three are going to be

1:41:48what they're looking to do. They want

1:41:50500 megawatt of power.

1:41:52>> We said they were advertising.

1:41:53>> They're advertising actively online.

1:41:56>> Okay.

1:41:58>> I they are I'm going to add they are

1:42:00coordinating uh with as a sponsor

1:42:05chamber practice legislative meeting. Um

1:42:08as a sponsor, they pay a fee. uh that

1:42:11fee is with the uh IDA

1:42:15and uh Micron is also a sponsor. Um

1:42:18that's enough evidence for me that uh

1:42:21there's obviously speculation and talk

1:42:24about high power use. So any anything

1:42:26that you're dealing with might run um n

1:42:30out of 10 um would be uh

1:42:34at least I would say up to a 2 megawatt

1:42:36uh possibly um issue and that's what

1:42:40we're trying to deal with

1:42:43Dan you know

1:42:45>> possibly an issue

1:42:49>> that's really light considering

1:42:52>> I don't know how it's going to rain

1:42:54so Glad they had that definition.

1:42:56>> They they've applied for 500 megawatt of

1:43:00power.

1:43:01>> I I think it's misplaced to focus on any

1:43:06particular use. But what we can say is

1:43:12>> what we can say what we can overlap.

1:43:16What we can say is any use of 500

1:43:21megawatt of power is going to have an

1:43:25impact.

1:43:26>> Mhm.

1:43:26>> On the village per se as a village,

1:43:30>> right?

1:43:30>> And on our municipal electric utility

1:43:34from a from a utility perspective,

1:43:37>> and if I might um correct me if I'm

1:43:40wrong, you don't need half the evidence

1:43:42of what's going to be developed. We we

1:43:45have common sense. We have reason. Okay.

1:43:48The reason for a moratorum is to get

1:43:50ahead of the game to speculate. You

1:43:52know, you talk about speculating know

1:43:53these are speculators that we're dealing

1:43:55with. Okay. So, we talk about

1:43:56speculators. We got to get ahead of

1:43:58their speculation. Okay. And not behind

1:44:00it. That's the whole purpose of

1:44:01moratoriums. U people that have

1:44:03instituted moratoriums don't do so

1:44:06because they have a guaranteed data

1:44:08center from it is protect themselves

1:44:11from that from that. This is the purpose

1:44:13of this. Yeah,

1:44:15>> it's a general protection for any type

1:44:17of activity that would require that type

1:44:20of power which would include adaption.

1:44:22It's a preemptive strike, a preemptive

1:44:25warning that this is

1:44:28the vision or the plan that that the

1:44:30village has and we and we work from

1:44:33there. We put a pause so that we can

1:44:34look at our zoning, that we can

1:44:36[clears throat] look at our plans, that

1:44:37we can make sure our bridge is in order

1:44:39for anybody. I'm not saying a bad still

1:44:42um correct a micron subsidiary

1:44:46manufacturing facility.

1:44:49Correct me if I'm off.

1:44:50>> No, I I think that's exactly right.

1:44:53>> So that that's basically what it is. I

1:44:54understand the the picking of the words.

1:44:57I get that. You want to change the

1:44:58verbiage that's fine. It doesn't change

1:45:00the intent of the of the moratorum.

1:45:02>> The purpose of it is prospective, right?

1:45:05>> It's before you add.

1:45:07>> Yeah. Um the uh

1:45:14the power um I don't know here.

1:45:22So right here at B the village owns and

1:45:25operates the IMU which has served the

1:45:27village continuency since 1900 served

1:45:29approximately 3,000 customers and

1:45:32obtained a power supply from the New

1:45:33York power na and

1:45:37uh through the New York State New York

1:45:40ISO by national grid an unplanned or

1:45:42insufficiently studied connection of a

1:45:45facility requiring 2 megawatt or more

1:45:47demand to stress the IMU substation etc.

1:45:50I thought in discussions uh prior

1:45:54the thought was

1:45:58the alien alien residents have 16

1:46:00megawatt correctly.

1:46:03Um this would not anything going to um

1:46:09any power input into Remington's arms

1:46:11would not affect the village residents

1:46:13at all.

1:46:14>> Well, that's only because we fought we

1:46:17fought for that.

1:46:20in 20

1:46:22uh 6 7 8 9 10

1:46:25>> when we were in the battle to get

1:46:28Remington Arms

1:46:30away from National Grid and put

1:46:34Remington Arms on the IM. So, so any

1:46:38power into Remington Arms would be

1:46:40completely independent of power

1:46:43affected

1:46:45uh

1:46:46not power but power input to the

1:46:49residents to the 3000.

1:46:52Well, that wouldn't that doesn't relate

1:46:55to a future project. That segregation of

1:46:58power that we were able to achieve when

1:47:03we were successful in bringing Remington

1:47:06Arms onto our grid and away from

1:47:11National Grid.

1:47:13We We won the right to segregate that

1:47:18load.

1:47:20Nobody in this room uh experienced a

1:47:24rate increase,

1:47:26>> right,

1:47:26>> because of the presence of national grid

1:47:30of uh Remington Arms on the grid.

1:47:36>> But so the we had that president. We won

1:47:41that right at the New York Public

1:47:43Service Commission and it took us years

1:47:45to do it.

1:47:47um

1:47:49that at least affords us the precedent

1:47:54uh if there's a new load that applies

1:47:59to be a customer of the IBU,

1:48:03we're going to have to accomplish that

1:48:05again because there's no way

1:48:09that the village of Illiam or its 3,000

1:48:14customers

1:48:15could sustain ain the increases that

1:48:19would result from a 500 megawatt load.

1:48:24So it's absolutely

1:48:27imperative

1:48:28that we segregate whatever load it is

1:48:32right and we thought [clears throat]

1:48:35that uh we thought that this moratorum

1:48:39should the state moratorum starts at 50

1:48:43megaww

1:48:44>> and goes up

1:48:46uh even 50 megawws is a huge load.

1:48:49>> Yeah. Um,

1:48:50>> I mean it's like three times all of

1:48:53Italy right now at the moment.

1:48:55>> Oh, at least three.

1:48:56>> Yeah.

1:48:57>> Um,

1:48:58>> yeah. 3 * 16. Is that what you're Yeah.

1:49:01>> It But it we thought the morator should

1:49:06have a moratorium beginning at 2 megaww.

1:49:11two megawws was

1:49:14uh our judgment of when the load begins

1:49:19to put stress on the system that we

1:49:23already have.

1:49:25>> Um and that's why we picked a number

1:49:29that low.

1:49:32anything below that [clears throat] you

1:49:33could pick up

1:49:35kind of normal uses

1:49:38you know in a in in a micro sense um

1:49:42everybody's

1:49:44office uh is a data center in other

1:49:47words you know you you maintain a server

1:49:51that that hosts all of your emails and

1:49:56all of your research and all of the

1:49:59documents both you receive receive and

1:50:02generate. So effectively

1:50:05any um what they call enterprise system

1:50:09is a data set. uh so we didn't want it

1:50:13to uh encompass

1:50:17kind of normal uses and that's why we

1:50:22drafted this moratorum to begin at 2

1:50:25megaww and go all the way up

1:50:28>> and JK if I may an ISO application

1:50:32um would take into account aliens

1:50:35ability aliens infrastructure or not yet

1:50:37that will come through port are they

1:50:39considering that

1:50:42it.

1:50:43>> Yes. the the the uh we we are

1:50:47participating

1:50:49in the ISO process

1:50:52because we would end up being the host

1:50:55>> correct

1:50:56>> utility but the application

1:51:00>> for the load was made by Turing

1:51:03>> with the IDA's

1:51:05uh encouragement

1:51:06>> right

1:51:07>> and the purpose of the ISO by the way

1:51:10because there's been comments that

1:51:14are factually incorrect. The ISO doesn't

1:51:18distribute power. All the ISO does is

1:51:23manage the state's grid.

1:51:26>> Yeah.

1:51:28>> Is there a cost to this monitor?

1:51:31>> What? What was that?

1:51:33>> Yes.

1:51:33>> Yes, there was a cost. Do we know what

1:51:36that is?

1:51:37>> Well, we don't I mean, we don't have a

1:51:40fixed number. It depends what studies we

1:51:44do. Um,

1:51:47another uh erroneous comment has been

1:51:52that the moratorum

1:51:54uh doesn't anticipate

1:51:56things like zoning and that sort of

1:51:58thing. And of course it does, but those

1:52:01are the studies that are going to have

1:52:03to be done. And um I think our view has

1:52:08been that whatever studies we can get

1:52:11New York to

1:52:14whatever studies we can get New York

1:52:17State to pay for we should to save the

1:52:21cost. If I may add um cost has to be

1:52:24secondary to um the health, safety and

1:52:27wellbeing of our uh of our population.

1:52:30There's there's no cost. It's too too

1:52:32great in my mind. Um the costs are

1:52:36minimal. Um from my

1:52:38um

1:52:40review and study of other people that

1:52:42have done this, the cost has been uh

1:52:44well managed. Um I'm talking $50,000 or

1:52:47less. So I don't know where we're

1:52:48anymore. Okay. Um

1:52:52so the cost is irrelevant. Second of

1:52:54all, these costs, all right, which I'm

1:52:56pushing and will continue to push, are

1:52:58going to be eventually part of

1:53:00tournament responsibility or any other

1:53:02development. Um, an escro account needs

1:53:05to be established. A host community uh

1:53:08agreement needs to be established. A

1:53:10walk away uh

1:53:14legal agreement needs to be established.

1:53:16Many things need to be established. Many

1:53:18things need to be negotiated. This gives

1:53:20us a pause. This tells current serious

1:53:24we want responsible development. It does

1:53:27not say you know this is not an end to

1:53:30anything.

1:53:31It is responsible

1:53:39safety issues. We're not going to have

1:53:40it. I don't know.

1:53:45>> Mr. H can address this too. The the

1:53:48thing I read about this on on the

1:53:51positive side with the two men walk

1:53:53limit is if decides that the stuff that

1:53:57we have seen online is erroneous and

1:54:00they say we want to bring some lightning

1:54:02that train we the data center IP is

1:54:05terrible you know we've got a company

1:54:07that wants to come in and assemble

1:54:08whatever you along with parts

1:54:10>> right

1:54:11>> we have enough power that we're going to

1:54:13allow them to pivot and bring something

1:54:16in here that has the potential of being

1:54:19uh good for a million and we're not

1:54:22cutting them off completely.

1:54:25>> I don't know if they feel that way, but

1:54:27I'm just saying

1:54:29>> right

1:54:29>> that 2 megawatt allows major

1:54:33>> because

1:54:35plenty to do over there that we could

1:54:38entertain ideas on.

1:54:41If your point is that it's important for

1:54:44Hillian to redevelop that site, you're

1:54:47absolutely right.

1:54:50>> But but so we're not cutting them off

1:54:52completely because you had mentioned

1:54:55before that we can't completely uh stop

1:54:58them because they are a private business

1:55:00to develop their own property however

1:55:03they see fit.

1:55:04>> Well, the purpose of the moratorum isn't

1:55:06to stop anyone. No, this is to protect

1:55:08us.

1:55:08>> It's a study

1:55:10>> building up

1:55:10>> so that whatever development it goes

1:55:13there is responsible development as the

1:55:16mayor always says.

1:55:19>> Yeah. Could Turan [clears throat]

1:55:21develop

1:55:23the property however they saw fit even