Full transcript
Intro
0:00Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright.
0:23Welcome in.
0:30Friday, October 9th, the Fantasy Footballers Podcast.
TNF Recap
0:37That little bit of levity here in the air, it's just eye rolls and conundrums from Thursday Night Football.
0:45That game, that game was, what?
0:50If people, that game was a, look, it was a disaster, but it wasn't at the exact same time.
0:58No, it was a good game.
1:00I was over here pleading, begging George Pickens to have a big game.
1:06Oh, I accidentally cleared my board here to see your prediction.
1:10We were pretty close, though.
1:11His prediction, I want to say, was like 7 for 115 and a touchdown.
1:14It was something right around there.
1:15And he ended up 9 for 130 and a touchdown.
1:18So pretty good.
1:19So I wanted George to have a great game, but not at the expense of everybody else on the Cowboys.
1:25I mean, this was, I think, the first time an 0-4 team won on the road against somebody since 1975.
1:31Won't be the last time this week.
1:33The Cowboys.
1:34Nice.
1:35So Pickens had eight targets, four catches, 63 yards in the first three quarters.
1:40They went to him immediately.
1:42In the fourth quarter when CeeDee Lamb went out.
1:45Yes.
1:45Five catches.
1:46Then they went to him the whole time.
1:4767 yards and a touchdown in that span.
1:49And the, you know, you followed up a week where CeeDee Lamb had 21 targets and 17 catches with a week where they barely had the football.
1:58The only time Dallas had the football and had drives, CeeDee was out.
2:01And the report was quad contusion.
2:04He got hit in the quad in the same spot that he got hit last week.
2:07He's got 10 days to recover.
2:08They're not expecting, you know, that's not going to be a salve for your fantasy team.
2:12Because CeeDee ended up with two catches for nine yards.
2:15Absolute disaster.
2:16Pickens had a big game.
2:17Javante saved his day with a touchdown.
2:19The story of the night, Bucky Irving.
2:22Holy crap.
2:24Yeah.
2:24I mean, it was just like the, dude.
2:2821, 165.
2:29I mean.
2:30And two touchdowns.
2:31You can.
2:32It's fair.
2:33Yes.
2:33Bucky's.
2:34The story is the Dallas defense.
2:37Not only did it not improve, it may be worse.
2:43Which is awesome.
2:44That was.
2:45Well, I know.
2:45It's awesome as long as Dak Prescott doesn't look like a pumpkin.
2:48Which he did last night.
2:49Dak looked like he forgot.
2:50He looks so bad.
2:51Forgot how to throw with any accuracy.
2:53And then he had two drops.
2:55The two that he actually puts on to people.
2:57Ferguson.
2:57He was awful.
2:58Ferguson.
2:59Dak was awful.
3:01Because the throws he was making, they're back foot.
3:04They were skittish and scared.
3:06It was a terrible game.
3:07But the Dallas defense, like, if you want to know why it isn't good for the offense, last
3:13night's the perfect example.
3:15They were a terrible defense last night and the offense sucked.
3:17Because they gave up an 11 minute drive to Bucky Irving and Jason superstar Jalon Daniels.
3:24Sure.
3:24That's right.
3:25I knew what I was doing.
3:27Bigging up Jalon Daniels.
3:28Yeah.
3:29I will say this.
3:30Since we're talking about the Cowboys defense, we need to give a little bit of credit as well
3:34to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers defense.
3:35Going into last night.
3:37Prior to them pretty much shutting down the Cowboys for the vast majority of the game,
3:42they were top 10 against quarterbacks, top 10 against running backs, top 10 against wide
3:46receivers.
3:47They have been a good defense.
3:49You don't think of that when they're an 0-4 team.
3:52That's a good point because Todd Bowles, that's the one thing he's always been able to do is
3:56kind of scheme up a defense.
3:57That probably had a lot to do with it.
3:59It looked like Dak was under pressure a lot.
4:02He couldn't settle into the pocket.
4:04He missed Seedy wide open for a bomb touchdown.
4:07Which I've rewatched a lot of times.
4:10Yeah.
4:10Yeah.
4:10That was.
4:11And it was because he was skittish in the pocket.
4:14But Bucky, 21 for 165 and one, caught a touchdown pass, scored twice from within the six.
4:21Dude.
4:21This is so comforting for those who have been hearing Kenny Gainwell, Sean Tucker talk.
4:28Because that's what it has been.
4:30The hilarity of last week where it's like Sean Tucker.
4:36Did he score last week?
4:38Yeah, he did.
4:38Oh, yeah.
4:38Like the short yardage is Sean Tucker.
4:40And then we leave the game and Robinson is like, we got to figure out how to get Gainwell
4:47and Tucker the ball more.
4:49And they're like, sight!
4:50Is Bucky Irving inside the five?
4:53Which we haven't done here.
4:54He was on fire.
4:54He was on fire and they stuck with him, which is what a good offensive coordinator does.
4:58Yeah, you had to.
4:59I mean, his big 72-yard run was not what it usually is.
5:04When you watch an NFL game and someone has a 72-yard run, it is almost always a lane opens
5:09up and a guy explodes.
5:11This was not.
5:12This was Bucky's like, oh, I'm stuck.
5:14It was Frogger.
5:15It was completely Frogger.
5:17He's just jumping to the left, jumping to the right.
5:18With going.
5:20Yeah.
5:21All the Cowboys jumping, diving into an empty spot.
5:24That he just moved out of.
5:26I mean, it was all Bucky.
5:27So he looked fantastic.
5:29A couple, you know, going into last year's draft, he was, I think, ADP, like the running
5:33back seven, which felt maybe higher than what his ceiling should be at that point.
5:38And obviously he disappointed, had a bad injury.
5:40That's actually crazy to look back on.
5:42I didn't realize it was that high.
5:43Yeah.
5:43And so now it's like, he looks like what he looked like coming out of his rookie season.
5:49And it's.
5:51The gap is wildly different from Gainwell to Bucky Irving or from Sean Tucker to Bucky
5:56Irving.
5:56Yeah.
5:56I mean, Gainwell got four carries.
5:58Chris Godwin got a carry.
6:00The Buka got a carry.
6:01So they're not like, this isn't the timeshare.
6:04No, it was a, it was a big game for Todd Bowles.
6:08Cause if he blew it at the end of that one, he was probably saying goodbye to this team.
6:13They tried.
6:14Well, it was nonsensical what happened.
6:17Dude, I am, I am all for.
6:20You're Mr. Go for.
6:21I am destroy.
6:24Just snuff the flame.
6:25Everything.
6:26No chance.
6:27You're on the one.
6:28And even I'm like, that's a three score game though.
6:31If you just kick it, then they have to score two touchdowns and something else.
6:36Like that's, you just take the points.
6:39Yeah.
6:40But also you got to be able to get a yard and they almost blew it.
6:43A Buka got into the end zone, not through the air, but on the ground on an end around
6:46run, 14 yards, but he had his first double digit scoring day.
6:50Probably the first one since you benched him or something out there.
6:53But I mean, he hasn't scored double digits since I believe week 10 last season.
6:58So it's been a minute.
6:59And, and I wouldn't doubt if people did bench him considering Baker's gone.
7:02Oh, I would have benched him.
7:03And so yeah, they just need a Baker out of the way.
7:05And Jalon Daniels to come in here and set up scoring opportunities.
7:09The Baker might be back soon, by the way, they were talking on the broadcast a little
7:13sooner than expected.
7:14Like if Ferguson doesn't cause that interception at the end of the game, what the way that the
7:19momentum was going, Dallas was going to score.
7:22Absolutely.
7:23And even before.
7:24Because he was wide open when he caused that interception, by the way.
7:26Yes.
7:26That would have been at like the 12 on first down.
7:28And also, Deron Bland dropped a game, a potential game tying pick six.
7:36An easy one.
7:37It was like Dallas did everything they could to, to lose this game.
7:40Papa Josh could have caught that thing.
7:42Well, let's not.
7:43Yeah.
7:44I've seen, I've seen stone hands out there.
7:46He couldn't take handoffs.
7:48Wait, was that the nickname?
7:49Yeah.
7:49Yeah.
7:50Only because of, of, uh, the catching was like stones trying to catch a football.
7:54It's better than lobster claws.
7:55All I'm going to say.
7:57Okay.
7:58I know who that is.
7:59All right.
Footclan Friday
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8:10Yeah.
8:11We had one guy that would catch.
8:12Oh.
8:13He would catch kind of like.
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8:15Yeah.
8:16It was more of a seal clap attempt.
8:18Yeah.
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8:34Let's talk some news.
NFL News
8:35Cause there's lots of it.
8:39News and notes from around the league.
8:41All right.
8:45The CD lamb.
8:46I just mentioned it.
8:47Yeah.
8:47He missed most of the fourth quarter drives that mattered, which was unfortunate.
8:53Cause he would have been, you know, he would have had three or four catches on those drives.
8:57Sure.
8:58Bruised quad.
8:59Not, not longterm.
9:00I guess it was a bruised quad from the week before you saw him come into the game a couple of times, like on the goal line for the two point conversion.
9:07Cause he didn't have to sprint down the field, but the nice thing is.
9:09And easily would have got the two point conversion if Dak was not being such a dumb dumb.
9:15Dak looked incapable of throwing an accurate pass.
9:17That was weird.
9:17That was so disappointing.
9:19But, um, long extended, you know, time to get better for him.
9:24All right.
9:25You guys ready for all these injuries?
9:27I mean, Mike was just talking this morning.
9:29Yes.
9:30I don't know if you want to talk about that.
9:31We were complaining a little bit about the nature of injury reporting right now.
9:36It's so.
9:37With first to market versus first accurate to market.
9:40It is so completely broken.
9:41We have, we've already had multiple instances this year of, of people, of somebody reporting,
9:49Hey, this person's, they're practicing limited.
9:51And because of the way that fantasy football and social media works, you're like, okay, this starts then spreading around.
9:57You're like, okay, that's what happened.
9:59So why would I need to go back and double check that?
10:02Because it's like, right.
10:03You know, you know who was practicing on, on, uh, what was it?
10:07Thursday or Wednesday.
10:07It was like T Higgins was practicing.
10:09No, he wasn't.
10:10He got marked as a, a did not practice.
10:12You know, who was practicing yesterday?
10:14Stefan Diggs.
10:15Actually, no, he was, uh, he was on the side with the trainer and now he's not going to practice today.
10:19Like we got to get it together.
10:22Beat reporters.
10:23We are, we rely on you for good, accurate information.
10:27And it is so broken right now.
10:29And so frustrating how the stuff is happening.
10:32I will say the, the, the Friday injury blitz podcast that we have will come before the weekend.
10:39Matthew Betts puts that together.
10:41He waits for the official injury reports to come out so that we, we kind of know actually what's going on versus what's just being kind of talked about.
10:49This is perfection.
10:50Thank you for finding this, Matt.
10:51Matt just sent a screenshot of, we have a tweet from.
10:54Yeah.
10:55Let's, let's just mention both.
10:56This is a tweet from underdog saying Ramondre Stevenson knee officially limited in practice.
11:01And then a, a tweet from 30 seconds later from Roto wire Ramondre Stevenson knee was officially listed as a non participant in Wednesday's practice.
11:10Both cannot be true people.
11:12Come on, man.
11:13Here's the problem.
11:14And I agree.
11:15I can't do it.
11:15I'm not there.
11:16The injury blitz is great on Friday to get the full information that you need, but fantasy is like by nature supposed to be something you quickly react to, to make moves and, and things.
11:28So it's just frustrating.
11:29I think to not have the most reliable information all the time, because people want to be first instead of right.
11:34Official injury report, just for clarity on that one.
11:37For the Ramondre.
11:38For Ramondre was limited participant Wednesday and Thursday.
11:42Oh, goodness gracious, man.
11:44Okay.
11:46All right.
11:47Uh, Devante, that was, this was supposed to be the easy part was getting the new in like the official part.
11:53And then the suffering was the, Oh man, this guy's hurt.
11:56Well, here's Eagle injury updates for you.
11:58Dontavian Wicks added to the injury report with a hamstring.
12:01Devante Smith did not practice hamstring doing rehab on the side.
12:05Saquon Barkley, not expected to play with a hamstring.
12:09So triple you who in Eagles country.
12:13Um, this is such the game that the Eagles, like I, I'll tell you right now in our, they end up winning.
12:18I picked them.
12:19Really?
12:20I did.
12:20I picked them.
12:21Because the defense is going to step up and.
12:23Just, it's just the kind of slog in London that, you know, Jacksonville.
12:28We'll see.
12:28I don't know.
12:29It's just a gut feeling.
12:30Uh, Kyle Monungay, turf toe injury playing, uh, basically his playing status uncertain for the next one to two weeks.
12:38I guess he's been dealing with this.
12:40It was a DMP on Wednesday and Thursday.
12:42I don't think.
12:42Was it?
12:43I don't know.
12:44Okay.
12:45That's not going to be helpful.
12:46No.
12:46But, but they, uh, they did say he had been dealing with some injuries, been playing through them, trying to play through them.
12:53He was a DMP though.
12:54So there's a chance Swift is alone.
12:56He's expected to play.
12:57He was back at a limited practice.
12:59Ashton Jinty was downgraded to a limited participant on Thursday.
13:03I'll throw it out.
13:03Cause it's like the belief that DeAndre Swift is able to go.
13:07It's the belief.
13:08And then Monungay, um, with his turf toe injury, I just did it for a very low cost investment.
13:16I saw that.
13:17Roshon Johnson should be picked up.
13:19Just in case.
13:20In certain leagues.
13:21Just in case.
13:22That's actually super smart.
13:23Turf toe is, is a problem.
13:25Sometimes like guys miss multiple weeks to come back and they're not even nearly as effective.
13:29I remember, uh, I think it was Antonio Gibson's rookie year.
13:33Like he was crushing and then he got the turf toe and it kind of fell off.
13:36It just, you, you be, be proactive with these injuries.
13:42Jinty was downgraded to limited.
13:43It was a full on Wednesday.
13:45So that's something to monitor.
13:46Brees Hall, Adonai Mitchell ruled out for the jets.
13:49Bengals wide receivers.
13:51That's a big headline for the week.
13:52Jamar Chase returned to a limited practice.
13:53Thursday is in uniform for today.
13:56Friday's practice.
13:57T Higgins did not practice again.
13:58Thursday, not spotted so far today.
14:02So T Higgins, it's a matchup against Miami, right?
14:05Yes.
14:05So you, you could see a player that has been historically injured a lot, get a week off.
14:10We'll see what happens with T Higgins.
14:12Chris Olave limited on Thursday with a foot injury.
14:16And they're saying that this is new.
14:19This is not the knee problem that, you know, you saw hyperextended on that last garbage time drive.
14:24Nothing to do with it.
14:25I mean, if it's a foot, it probably is nothing to do with it.
14:28He didn't injure his foot on that play, but that could mean it's worse.
14:31That could mean that it happened at practice, but it's disconcerting.
14:35I saw him at practice and he was dancing.
14:37So we'll see what happens.
14:38Justin Jefferson remained limited on Thursday with the ankle.
14:42Jordan Addison limited on Thursday with a hamstring, which by the way,
14:47it's very clear that hamstrings got super jealous of groins.
14:50Yeah, they are.
14:51We got the word out.
14:52Because groins were doing big work.
14:54Our butterfly stretch push.
14:58What do you do for the hammy?
15:00That's more of a runner stretch.
15:02Get some runner stretch stuff going on?
15:03I mean, it's just the touch your toes.
15:06I could never do it.
15:07And over to the front, touch toes.
15:09I could never do it.
15:11Terry McLaurin and Stephon Diggs both missed practice on Thursday with hamstring injuries.
15:17Good night, man.
15:19Stop it.
15:20Cam Scadaboo is now limited.
15:21He is not in a non-contact jersey anymore.
15:25Yeah, it was an upgrade for him.
15:27And Malik Nabors returned to a limited practice.
15:29His knee has been sore.
15:30I don't want to hear sore knee with Malik Nabors.
15:32No, no, you don't.
15:34Not when you're coming off of an ACL.
15:37Don't get hurt.
15:39Please.
15:40Also, unsurprisingly, because I believed in them.
15:44Lad McConkie did not practice again due to the foot injury.
15:49Yeah, it's really, really tough with Lad.
15:52The upcoming schedule.
15:53This is a player who has been playing through injury and it has not been working.
15:59Like, they need to give.
16:00The problem is they need him so desperately.
16:02They're 0-4.
16:03Their offense doesn't work without him, but he's not himself right now.
16:07So it's not working with him.
16:10I can't fathom starting him.
16:12Like, if he's active.
16:13You know, last week he was active.
16:15He goosed.
16:16He played 34% of the snaps.
16:18He's currently banged up.
16:20The matchup against Denver.
16:21Like, I'm looking elsewhere.
16:23I'm pretty excited for next year, Andy.
16:26Because, like, the my guys, it's a big deal.
16:29You know, we put work into it.
16:31These are guys that we truly believe in.
16:32And, of course, Foot Clan, like, if you support the show and you follow our advice, you go after those guys and people keep track.
16:41And next year they're going to be like, Andy, the worst picks you've ever made.
16:49It's going to be really fun.
16:51I can tell you right now some of the best picks for next year.
16:55Lad McConkie.
16:56Alec Pierce.
16:57Alec Pierce.
16:58I mean, I'm telling you.
16:59Caleb Williams, I think, could come back and redeem the my guys.
17:01And then Scribling is, like, a year away.
17:04This, listen.
17:06Never wrong, just early.
17:07I know you're right.
17:08I can see the Reddit threads.
17:10Yeah, oh, yeah.
17:10Because we've had a good run.
17:11The last few years has been great.
17:13And this, no one's going to remember their hurt.
17:15That's what's going to happen in the Reddit thread.
17:16Be like, Lad had, like, four.
17:18Wide receiver, 95.
17:20Yes.
17:21Yes, that's what it'll be.
17:23Gosh dang it.
17:24All right, Lamar Jackson did not practice again on Thursday.
17:26We don't think Lamar's going to play, dude.
17:28No, we don't.
17:29All right, we'll take a break.
17:30We'll jump into the forecast.
17:31We'll be right back.
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20:00Dajon's dribbling.
20:01Wide receiver 109.
20:03Didn't meet expectations.
Fantasy Forecast
20:06All right.
20:07Let's get into it.
20:11Fantasy Forecast.
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20:14I know it's a long show, but man,
20:19I'm surprised you haven't already brought up
20:21Mike McDaniel's press conference, Jason.
20:23Oh.
20:24Talking about the running back room
20:26and this whole like,
20:28the worst quote from the press conference was,
20:30we are playing different running backs based on,
20:35you know,
20:36the fact that we make the defenses think about
20:38three different tackling schemes.
20:40Yeah.
20:41Yeah.
20:41The defenders are like.
20:42Did you hear this, Mike?
20:44No.
20:44Yeah, you're hearing it for the first time.
20:45That's not a joke.
20:46Please tell me more.
20:47No, it's not.
20:48Yeah.
20:48He was,
20:49you know,
20:50if you use three backs,
20:51then the defense has to come up with
20:53three different tackling plans.
20:55Yeah.
20:56No, they don't.
20:57No, they don't.
20:58They're not out there.
20:59I mean, you see,
21:00I was going to do the move where I hit him
21:02as hard as I can and wrap up,
21:04but now I can't.
21:04Defenses have to prepare for three different
21:06tackling plans for backs with various skill sets.
21:09We can't tackle the same.
21:11These NFL defenders.
21:13I mean,
21:14not a professional defender,
21:16but I don't think that that's a problem.
21:18You got them cards over there?
21:19I think that there are.
21:20That is some.
21:21We getting ready for some budget?
21:22That's a desperate man.
21:23All right.
21:23Well, I'll have these ready for next day.
21:25I will say this.
21:26Listening to the whole press conference,
21:27I watched the whole thing,
21:28and my takeaway was it's not changing.
21:32Like,
21:32he said a lot of good things about Amarion Hampton,
21:35his confidence in him,
21:35that he is the starter.
21:37And I do think that in the timeshare,
21:39he will more often than not lead in volume
21:42and carries and touches,
21:43but it is a timeshare.
21:45As someone who loved Amarion Hampton,
21:47that was my,
21:48my guy,
21:48in part because I thought Mike McDaniel was good.
21:51My bad.
21:52Well, look,
21:52if they're winning a game,
21:54you might be right about him.
21:55That's been the biggest variable.
21:57They were supposed to be.
21:58That's why he was a pick.
21:59This is why I didn't want Devon Achan on the Dolphins.
22:02Right.
22:02I wanted someone on a good team and a good offense.
22:06Turns out the Chargers.
22:08Turns out.
22:09Turns out.
22:09Yeah.
22:10And I will say this.
22:11One of the biggest arguments for it
22:13was the fact that they had Slater and Joe Ault
22:17and an upgraded center.
22:18Oh,
22:18they're gone.
22:18Their offensive line was totally amazing.
22:22And now they are all gone.
22:23And at the beginning of the fourth quarter,
22:25last game,
22:26they had four of their five offensive linemen
22:29were rookies.
22:31He's preparing his Herbro defenses.
22:33No,
22:33no,
22:33no.
22:33I'm just saying their offensive line is.
22:35I think Jason's bailed.
22:37I,
22:37I,
22:37I certainly don't believe it's going to be fixed soon.
22:40I will stand 100% by.
22:43Amarion Hampton is great.
22:44Like I still,
22:45I get all the metrics.
22:47He's,
22:47he is,
22:48he is breaking tackles.
22:50He's yards after contact,
22:51his speed,
22:53his,
22:53like,
22:53I'm not sure the vision is where it needs to be.
22:56That's the only area that I think is a concern to me.
22:58He can break tackles.
22:59He can be a goal line back.
23:01I don't,
23:01you're not passing him the ball over Keaton Mitchell,
23:03which was,
23:03is a problem.
23:04You should.
23:05Um,
23:07by the way,
23:07yeah,
23:07that's the Cowboys problem.
23:08They are not practicing the proper tackling scheme.
23:11Well,
23:11it was,
23:11they were ready for Baker.
23:12They were ready.
23:13Oh,
23:14they didn't know how to tackle.
23:15No,
23:15no.
23:15Then they would,
23:16when they would smoosh Jalon in the,
23:18well,
23:18they did all the,
23:19works against they were just,
23:21then they would get well,
23:22had got all the hype this week.
23:23So they were practicing.
23:24They were preparing to tackle Gainwell.
23:26They're like,
23:27which is different.
23:27Yeah.
23:27You go for the feet on Gainwell.
23:29Right.
23:29Only.
23:30Yeah.
23:30Bucky,
23:31you got to go for the shoulders.
23:32Right.
23:32Everybody knows that.
23:34Um,
23:35couldn't adapt.
23:35What a quote.
23:36What a,
23:37what a bunch of horse garbage.
23:38We,
23:39I mean,
23:39just the dynasty show,
23:41uh,
23:41that came out this last week,
23:42we drafted off the play callers,
23:44the office of minds.
23:45No one has had a more precipitous fall.
23:48Like spoiler.
23:50Yeah.
23:50We did not draft Mike McDade.
23:52He did not make the top 12.
23:53He was the bell of the ball.
23:54Yeah.
23:55Who was the head coach for the chargers that we saw?
23:57Brute is Staley.
23:58They just,
23:58we saw melt as he,
24:00he did the thing.
24:00You know,
24:01you see the president before and after term.
24:03Yes.
24:03Staley in one year went from like,
24:05looking like a young youthful coach to like,
24:07most eight year Obama.
24:09A hundred percent.
24:10He had a 34 month year.
24:12That guy was,
24:13that was brutal on him.
24:14But it was also his fault.
24:15Cause he kept going for on fourth.
24:17And it never worked.
24:18He's like,
24:18I'll keep doing it.
24:19Um,
24:20okay,
24:21here we go.
24:21Yesterday we covered Eagles,
24:22Jags,
24:23the London game,
24:23bears,
24:24Packers,
24:24Texans,
24:24Titans,
24:25Bengals,
24:26Dolphins,
24:26Raiders,
24:26Patriots,
24:27Vikings,
24:27Saints,
24:28Browns,
24:28Jets,
24:28Colts,
24:28Steelers,
24:29six more matchups to get into.
24:32We also have the fantasy face off on today's episode of the show.
Giants at Commanders
24:35Let's start with the three and one giants.
24:38Mike and I were just musing on this this morning against the one and three
24:41Washington commanders.
24:42Basically saying that at this juncture,
24:46I really,
24:46truly believe all four teams can win the division.
24:49I don't even know who,
24:51like,
24:51let's just,
24:52let's do this experiment.
24:52I think all four teams could be last in the division as well.
24:54If you're the team that you're going to,
24:55that you think is going to win the division,
24:57we're going to do it at the exact same time.
24:58Hold on,
24:58you got to give me a moment.
25:00That you know the four teams.
25:01I know,
25:02but I don't know which one I think is actually going to win.
25:05Okay.
25:06Yeah.
25:06Give me one second.
25:07I just want to look at one little schedule.
25:08Oh,
25:09come on.
25:10This is just a gut thing on how you think they're playing.
25:13Just say the team name.
25:17Not that,
25:17not the,
25:17you know,
25:18city ready?
25:19One,
25:19two,
25:20three.
25:20All right.
25:22We just said three different names.
25:23We said three different names and none of them were the current.
25:26Yes.
25:26Division leader standing alone at the top.
25:29Three and one giants who is in this matchup.
25:31Wow.
25:32Yeah.
25:32The commanders are at home in this one and their four and a half point favorites.
25:35It's a 41 and a half point over under.
25:37It's a low scoring game.
25:38It's got a problem with the giants.
25:39The problem with the giants is you're like,
25:41you know,
25:41the rest of the year is Winston and McCarthy.
25:43Yeah.
25:44So you look at what is the,
25:46who's the best quarterback in the division?
25:47Dak.
25:48Yes.
25:48And then probably right now you could argue Jaden and hurts.
25:52Who's going to have the better second half.
25:54Both have a lot of injuries.
25:56So we'll see.
25:57I mean,
25:57he's missing digs in McLaurin this week.
25:59So did we mention digs?
26:01I guess we'll mention them right now.
26:02We did digs is a DMP with the hamstring McLaurin,
26:05the hamstring could be Antonio Williams breakout game.
26:08We'll see if that happens.
26:09But I mean,
26:10this is a game littered with injury.
26:12You have a limited camp scatable.
26:14You've got a limited Jaquardy cross camera.
26:16You've got a sore Malik neighbors.
26:18You've got a limited Isaiah likely.
26:21So decision wise,
26:23you know,
26:23his neighbors in the category I'm assuming of if he starts,
26:26you play him.
26:27Yeah,
26:27I think so.
26:28What we saw with Winston,
26:31you know,
26:31112 receiving yards last week that if he's active,
26:34you're,
26:35you're putting him in the lineup for sure.
26:37Basically the report we got this morning from Jordan Renan over there covering the Giants is that neighbors,
26:41Andrew Thomas,
26:42Isaiah likely,
26:43Cam Scataboo are all practicing on Friday and good to go.
26:46So let's just plan on scat being out there.
26:48Neighbors likely,
26:50you know,
26:51I think likely showed with the target count last week and the fact that the commanders are so bad against tight ends.
26:57Like this is a really good start for him.
26:58Mike started the week and scat,
27:01you know,
27:01it wasn't a good game last week for him.
27:03He just was inefficient.
27:04Scat's been very inefficient on the season.
27:06Work is there.
27:06Volume is there.
27:07And also,
27:08you know,
27:09both him and Judkins,
27:10they,
27:10they got off to slow starts this year,
27:12but they are coming off of a pretty serious injury that as time goes on,
27:17I mean,
27:17we saw that with like Tony Pollard who had some of that injury.
27:19It took time before he looked back to himself after that original injury.
27:24So I think Scataboo is just going to keep getting better and better.
27:27Would you play Jaden Daniels with the new,
27:29newly minted left elbow brace or Jacoby Brissette against Detroit?
27:33Oh man,
27:34that one is tough.
27:35I am pro Jaden Daniels.
27:37I think he's going to still run,
27:39but with the injuries to wide receivers,
27:41the over under in the Cardinals game,
27:42I think I lean Brissette.
27:43Yeah.
27:43I would play Jacoby as well.
27:45Shock against Minnesota or Jaden?
27:46Jaden.
27:47That one I'm fine.
27:48Go on.
27:48Bo Nix,
27:48my start of the week or Jaden?
27:50Jaden.
27:50Jaden.
27:51Jacory Kraske,
27:52Merritt,
27:52or,
27:53so he's starting this game or Ollie Gordon.
27:57Against Cincinnati.
28:00Let me,
28:01that one is.
28:02I've got them back to back in my rankings.
28:04I've got Jacory one spot ahead.
28:06One wild thing that happened and it's,
28:08you know,
28:08more for dynasty leagues and stuff,
28:10but Katron Allen,
28:11who got some work early in the season with the signing of Austin Eckler and apparently the return of Rashad White,
28:17I'm guessing.
28:17They cut him.
28:19He's gone.
28:19That's fat man.
28:21That is wild.
28:22So it's JCM,
28:24White,
28:25and Eckler.
28:27You know,
28:27in some regards,
28:28it's kind of,
28:28kind of more secure as JCM for that first and second down role because if anybody was going to be able to beat him for that,
28:35it would have been Katron.
28:36Mm-hmm.
28:36And it's not happening.
28:38But Bill right now is not playing well.
28:4137th in yards per carry,
28:4239th in percentage of runs stuffed at the line of scrimmage.
28:46The offensive line was a major concern coming into the year.
28:49Yeah.
28:49You already have an injury to your quarterback because of that in part,
28:52and you have an inefficient running game.
28:55I also think the absence of McLaurin and the absence of Diggs,
29:00if they're both out for this game,
29:01they're going to focus on the run and make Jaden Daniels have to really beat him through the air,
29:06which is going to be...
29:07Yeah,
29:07with Antonio and Deami Brown.
29:09Yeah,
29:09exactly.
29:09It's going to be difficult.
29:10We've seen that with the inefficiencies for the Houston Texans running game.
29:15When Nico's not there,
29:16the defense can really just focus on a bad offensive line and take advantage.
29:20Yeah,
29:20that's why Montgomery was bad.
29:22Sneaky DFS play this week is Chigakonkwo.
29:25Sure.
29:25Because he's coming back and they don't have receivers.
29:28And so,
29:28much like we were liking Gesicki with maybe,
29:31when we thought maybe Chase and Higgins wouldn't play,
29:33it's something to pay attention to,
29:35not something to count on.
29:36Denver at 2-2,
29:38taking on Jason's Los Angeles Chargers.
Broncos at Chargers
29:42Don't do that.
29:43Don't do that.
29:43The Vegas line...
29:44The only has one win.
29:45The Vegas line is Denver minus 3.5.
29:48Over under is 41.5.
29:51This puts Denver...
29:52Yeah,
29:53I mean,
29:533.5 road favorites here against the Chargers.
29:55I mean,
29:56this is one of the games in the gauntlet schedule for the Chargers that you're like,
30:00well,
30:01they might be able to get that thing done.
30:04It's not...
30:05I mean,
30:05this week against Denver is a lot better than in Kansas City,
30:08next week.
30:08Yeah.
30:08Or,
30:09technically at home,
30:11but on the road against the Rams the next week.
30:13So,
30:14this is another chance they have.
30:16This is the first time the Broncos
30:18have been favored on the road against LA since 2017.
30:23Man.
30:25Here we go.
30:26Fantasy football starts in this one.
30:28Mike,
30:28and I have some Denver Broncos this week.
30:31We do.
30:32I have Bo Nix as my start of the week.
30:34It's more of a Chargers thing.
30:36Mike is R.J. Harvey.
30:38To be honest,
30:38our start of the week is the Chargers suck.
30:41So,
30:41what other decisions are you doing?
30:42What does the wide receiver room for Denver feel like to you right now?
30:45So,
30:45Jalen Waddell,
30:46his prize picks projection is sitting at six and a half targets.
30:51Healthy enough,
30:52you have,
30:53like,
30:53Pat Bryant is now,
30:55he won't be a part of this game and this game plan.
30:58And so,
30:59I,
30:59I feel,
31:01I think I feel pretty good about Jalen Waddell.
31:04I even think if he,
31:05like,
31:06desperate times,
31:07Cortland Sutton is not the worst play this week.
31:09Yeah,
31:10I think Waddell is a good play.
31:11You,
31:12you saw,
31:12I mean,
31:13obviously,
31:13Sean Payton went out and,
31:15he sent Sun,
31:17Moon,
31:18and Stars,
31:18paid the man,
31:19and,
31:20and talked about how he was going to use Waddell.
31:22Waddell has not been utilized in that way.
31:24He's taking over play calling duty.
31:25I think we're going to see a big game from Jalen Waddell here.
31:29Man.
31:30Yeah,
31:30I think four weeks in,
31:31you've been disappointed.
31:32So,
31:32you'd like to see the breakout start to happen.
31:34The offense as a whole has,
31:35has been bad.
31:37I mean,
31:38everything's been a check down from Bo Nix.
31:40He has not been pushing the ball down the field,
31:42certainly not successfully.
31:43And that's what,
31:45I mean,
31:45we,
31:45when Waddell was joining this team,
31:47you know,
31:48late in this off season,
31:49it was like,
31:50wow,
31:50they really need him going back and watching Bo Nix on deep shots.
31:53They needed Waddell and it still,
31:55it hasn't worked.
31:56Hopefully the play calling change,
31:58helps.
31:59And the matchup against the Chargers helps.
32:00Just the decisions.
32:01RJ Harvey,
32:03the running back for the Denver Broncos is currently being targeted on 44% of his routes.
32:09Too much.
32:10That's way too much.
32:12Oh,
32:12what are you doing?
32:13If that's what's going to be happening,
32:15then take those fantasy points.
32:17How bad has the LA offense been?
32:19Dead last in EPA per play.
32:2130 first and points per drive,
32:23barely ahead of the Dolphins.
32:26And this is a tough defense.
32:28It's a very tough defense.
32:29Denver.
32:30So I expect the offensive line for Herbert to part the ways and allow him to get smushed all game long.
32:39Well,
32:39in that case,
32:40I don't think it's the best matchup for the Hampton trifecta.
32:43of backfield situations.
32:46So like Emmanuel Wilson should be starting for the Seahawks,
32:48right?
32:49And Harvey's on the other side of this one.
32:51And Braylon Allen,
32:52like,
32:52are you taking Hampton over any of those three?
32:55I would play Braylon Allen.
32:57Who were the other names?
32:58Emmanuel Wilson.
32:59I would play Wilson against San Francisco.
33:01Harvey.
33:02Your start of the week.
33:02I would play Harvey.
33:04If you're in a standard,
33:06maybe.
33:06Jeremiah Love over him?
33:08Over Hampton?
33:09Oh,
33:10yeah,
33:11it is.
33:11Yeah,
33:11I think so.
33:11He's,
33:12he's looked better at,
33:14he's looked better with the ankle injury at practice recently.
33:17I,
33:17I still think Hampton is a low end starter.
33:20I've got him as my running back.
33:2120.
33:21He's not a,
33:22he's not a bench,
33:23but he's more like a,
33:24I even met running back 23 right now.
33:27Losing two offensive linemen on an offensive line that was already not performing sucks.
33:33Trey Harris.
33:34I mentioned him because you're not playing huge anymore.
33:37Lad's probably missing.
33:38Gadsden is,
33:40Gadsden's,
33:40he got eight targets last week.
33:42Maybe he benefits from,
33:43from missing pieces,
33:44but Trey Harris has been a little bit more involved on a snap count basis.
33:48You know,
33:49you remember him from last year,
33:5093% of snaps last week.
33:52He's a good wide receiver.
33:53It's just a really difficult matchup.
33:55And if you don't have the other guys and you can focus,
33:57on someone,
33:58I'm not,
33:59I'm not really excited to start any charger.
34:01To be honest,
34:02the Detroit lions at two and two take on the one and three Arizona Cardinals in one of the games of the week here.
34:08Vegas line is Detroit minus five and a half on the road over unders 54.5.
Lions at Cardinals
34:15We round up.
34:17We do.
34:18We do 30 implied points for the lions.
34:22The highest of the revenge of the blobfish.
34:25Yeah.
34:25He's back.
34:26Can the blobfish get revenge?
34:28I think so.
34:29Yeah.
34:30Arizona.
34:31Here's what I don't know.
34:32I don't know if the blobfish is calling plays all year.
34:35Oh,
34:35I don't know if that's going to happen.
34:37It certainly feels like Dan Campbell might have to pull a Dan Campbell this year.
34:41I feel like this entire conversation was confusing for some people.
34:45It might be,
34:46but it would have been more confusing if we had said,
34:48look,
34:48at some point,
34:49guns,
34:49Mahoney is going to take over play.
34:50From the blobfish.
34:53Thank you.
34:53All right.
34:54Perfect.
34:55We're talking about Drew Petsing,
34:56offensive coordinator.
34:57Mike,
34:58I would have said it earlier if I had remembered.
35:00Former.
35:00I couldn't place his real name because I've called him the blobfish for so long.
35:04You did start that.
35:06I did.
35:06Yeah.
35:07Oh,
35:07yeah.
35:07That was a Mike.
35:07No,
35:08that was you.
35:08You started it.
35:09Well,
35:09have you ever seen a blobfish?
35:11I've seen Drew Petsing.
35:12Yes.
35:13All right.
35:15The Cardinals are real,
35:17real bad on defense,
35:20but guess what?
35:21So are the lions.
35:22Yeah,
35:22they are.
35:22Did you see their defensive coordinator press conference where?
35:27Oh,
35:28yeah.
35:28I called the right plays.
35:29It was like they blitzed eight times and seven of the eight plays were great for the opposing offense.
35:35And then he's like,
35:35they were the right calls.
35:37And then he's like,
35:38well,
35:39what,
35:39what,
35:39what do you explain the,
35:40the fact they didn't work?
35:41What?
35:42They were the right calls.
35:45Okay.
35:46Cool,
35:46man.
35:47They didn't seem that way.
35:49I mean,
35:50his,
35:50he,
35:51the only way that you can justify is the players.
35:53Yeah.
35:54The players didn't execute on the correct play call.
35:57And sometimes that can happen,
35:58but I will say all eight times times at some point,
36:01you're not executing on your personnel groupings.
36:05So we have starts of the week littered in this matchup.
36:08High over under Jacoby Brissett's in there as Mike started the week.
36:11Jason,
36:11you've got golf.
36:13Michael Wilson is your start of the week at wide receiver.
36:15Jamo is mine.
36:16As is Sam Laporta.
36:18If you look at the start,
36:20anyone,
36:20I mean,
36:20the defenses are atrocious.
36:22This is why Jeremiah love,
36:23even if he,
36:23they said he's fine,
36:24but even if he's a little limited,
36:26the opportunity is going to be there.
36:28And Tyler Algier is a,
36:30is a break glass in case of emergency type of back that could easily.
36:34I was gonna say,
36:35who's got a higher chance of scoring a touchdown this week,
36:37Hampton or Algier?
36:38I think Hampton,
36:39because if they get around the goal line,
36:41it should go to him.
36:42Whereas here it could still go to love.
36:44I mean,
36:44the get around the goal line part for Arizona,
36:46there are five more points implied for that offense.
36:49I think,
36:50I think it'd be interesting,
36:51but Michael Wilson,
36:52yeah,
36:52he's 30 targets in the last two weeks.
36:54He's an auto start.
36:56If you're wildly desperate,
36:59Marvin Harrison Jr.
37:01Plays for the Cardinals.
37:03He does.
37:03He runs a lot of routes in a high over under game.
37:07Marv or Trey Harris?
37:10Marv.
37:11I'm doing Marv.
37:13Marv or Darius Cooper?
37:13Because I have that choice.
37:15I have that choice in our chopped league.
37:16What about Darius Cooper,
37:18who has,
37:19for Philadelphia.
37:20For Philadelphia,
37:20yes.
37:20That is the worst because he's got three touchdowns,
37:23right?
37:23Marv does score.
37:24Like,
37:24Marv has like 14 touchdowns in his career.
37:26Now it's one for 11 and a touchdown.
37:28Mm-hmm.
37:29But,
37:30Cooper's probably playing 30% of snaps,
37:32and Marv's going to play 95%.
37:33No,
37:33Cooper's going to be probably up near 100% of snaps
37:36if Dontavian Wicks is out,
37:38and Devontae Smith is out.
37:40Mm-hmm.
37:41I,
37:42I,
37:43Kyle has asked the question,
37:45if not now,
37:46when for Marv?
37:47I can,
37:48the answer is never.
37:49Did you see that Marv hired-
37:50I am not going to do this,
37:51Mike.
37:52I'm not standing by.
37:53Mike was the blobfish originator.
37:56What?
37:57Because in the Slack,
37:57he said,
37:58I started it.
37:59Be quiet.
38:00Let Andy take the credit.
38:01Oh,
38:01man.
38:01He doesn't want to go down as the blobfish inventor.
38:04It's so mean.
38:05It is.
38:05It is.
38:06That's why I assumed it wasn't you.
38:08Listen,
38:08those at home that are like,
38:10oh,
38:10you're calling a person a blobfish.
38:11He was our offensive coordinator.
38:13this was,
38:14yeah.
38:14If I called my kid a blobfish,
38:16that's okay.
38:17I totally.
38:17You can't call my kid a blobfish.
38:18No,
38:18that's rude.
38:20Do you understand the rules of,
38:21of names?
38:24Anyway,
38:25I do dislike him.
38:27I don't,
38:29I don't know how he got,
38:31how did you get that job?
38:33I don't know.
38:34It's nonsense.
38:35They're like,
38:36yeah,
38:36that,
38:37that team that can't win games and sure.
38:40They put up yards,
38:41but they didn't really score any points.
38:42That's the offense I want.
38:44I mean,
38:44just start everybody in this game.
38:45Obviously McBride,
38:46Amonron,
38:47Gibbs are your best start.
38:48Did you guys see that,
38:49that Marvin Harrison hired agents?
38:51Like he,
38:52he,
38:52yeah,
38:52yeah,
38:53he didn't have one.
38:53That's why the NFLPA contract thing with his Jersey didn't work.
38:57Yeah.
38:57Um,
38:58he did hire an agent.
39:00Strange timing.
39:01Could be.
39:02I mean,
39:02I,
39:02I don't,
39:03I will not be shocked if at the deadline,
39:05if this continues,
39:06I think that's the implication.
39:08That's why did you get an agent now?
39:10Yeah.
39:10When a trade or something might be going on.
39:13Yeah.
39:13Yeah.
39:14We'll see.
39:14I mean,
39:15do you want him out of Arizona?
39:16No,
39:17I want him to play well.
39:18That's what I want.
39:18I want him to develop into what he,
39:21he,
39:22he,
39:22he was legitimately a great grow lollipops in my garden.
39:26He was legitimately,
39:27but I can't.
39:28All right.
39:28He played different in college.
39:30You could have picked anything in your garden.
39:33You could have said like cash.
39:34You went lollipops.
39:36Just something that can't happen.
49ers at Seahawks
39:39I wanted it to be fanciful.
39:41Okay.
39:42Lobfish is throwing me off.
39:43All right.
39:44The 49ers four and O against the three and one Seahawks.
39:47Here's a game.
39:48Yeah.
39:48And it's got a decent over under Seattle minus three over under 45 and a half.
39:53I mean,
39:53the 49ers have been lights out the efficiency,
39:56the success of Brock Purdy.
39:58I would say that,
39:59you know,
40:00I've watched the Seahawks.
40:01They have a,
40:03their defense is ranked very well.
40:04And I had this philosophical question with Mike this morning,
40:07Jason.
40:07I'm gonna let you answer real quick.
40:09Where do you lean more often when you're choosing a defense for fantasy,
40:14when it's a mid tier to lower tier defense with a great matchup,
40:18example being Bengals,
40:20their middle tier facing the dolphins who haven't scored more than 13 points.
40:24Yeah.
40:25Versus,
40:25I mean,
40:26you've got Seattle who at home,
40:27very good.
40:29They're second against quarterback,
40:30second against wide receivers.
40:32They're six in fantasy points scored,
40:33but you're playing an offense has been pretty much carving people up in the 49ers.
40:37How do you generally lean?
40:39Generally,
40:40I generally,
40:41I will take my great defense like the Seahawks are,
40:44and I will bench them and pick up the,
40:47I'll roster two for the week that they're in a really bad matchup.
40:49If the Seahawks were playing,
40:50you lean towards the opposing offense more than your defense.
40:53Correct.
40:54Which Mike kind of talked about.
40:56It depends on the week,
40:57but he kind of sometimes goes the other way.
40:59Obviously it saves you a roster spot versus rostering too.
41:02But I was just curious what your inclinations are on a,
41:05on a normal basis.
41:06Yeah.
41:06Sometimes it like,
41:08I give the Andy,
41:09my example right now.
41:11I have the Baltimore Ravens in the league of record against the Falcons.
41:15Cause that look a couple of weeks ago,
41:17that felt like it was going to be a great matchup.
41:19Now it feels not like a great matchup and Tyler Huntley is starting,
41:24but the Ravens play the Cleveland Browns next week.
41:27And I don't really have the spot to put a second defense.
41:31So as of right now,
41:32I don't know by Sunday what I'll do,
41:34but right now I'm probably just going to gamble.
41:36And,
41:36and throw the Ravens out there.
41:38Do we have to hit this button?
41:39Uh,
41:40if we're in between matchups,
41:41we should,
41:42we're not in between matchups.
41:43Well,
41:44let's finish this one.
41:45Yeah.
41:46Breaking news on the way.
41:48No,
41:48we've never had a teaser.
41:50I know for breaking news.
41:51That's usually interjected.
41:53Uh,
41:53Emmanuel Wilson will be the starting running back for the Seahawks this week.
41:57His prize picks projection has him at 78 and a half rushing yards with receiving.
42:01Wow.
42:01Included.
42:02Rushing plus.
42:02Rushing and receiving.
42:03He's,
42:03he's a solid play.
42:05The,
42:06the San Francisco 49ers are giving up so many receptions to the,
42:11to the,
42:12uh,
42:13to the running back position.
42:14And so I like,
42:15I'm very interested in Wilson.
42:18Jason is an auto start every week.
42:20How are you feeling about Darnold right now?
42:21In terms of,
42:22you know,
42:23is he just on the back burner in terms of starting options for the moment?
42:26Yeah.
42:26He's a low end streamer for this week.
42:29It was wild.
42:29Cause that game he had against Washington,
42:32right?
42:32They lost the game 33 to 31.
42:34Do you know what he finished on the week for that game?
42:35Fantasy wise?
42:36Well,
42:36what didn't he end up with like four touchdowns or something?
42:39He was the number one quarterback.
42:40So the,
42:41the game they lost,
42:42he was number one last week,
42:43back down to 17.
42:44In a game they won.
42:45Uh,
42:46Brock Purdy.
42:47Do you temper expectations going on the road to Seattle?
42:49Yeah.
42:50Yes,
42:50you do.
42:50Yeah,
42:50you do.
42:50You play Bo Nix over him against the chargers?
42:52No.
42:53Uh,
42:53I think I do.
42:55Um,
42:56the,
42:56it's funny.
42:57The San Francisco 49ers have like Shanahan just has McVay's number.
43:02We saw that whether it was the,
43:03the jet lag,
43:04you know,
43:05Australia thing to start the season,
43:06but they always,
43:07they always kick the crap out of the Rams.
43:09The Seahawks always kick the crap out of the 49ers.
43:12And so I,
43:13I,
43:13I,
43:14I think that the Seahawks are going to,
43:16despite the fact that the Niners have been awesome,
43:18they're undefeated.
43:20They've looked like one of,
43:22if not the best team in the league.
43:23I think the Seahawks at home are going to handle this.
43:26Interesting.
43:26Pretty well.
43:27Uh,
43:28on the other side,
43:29the divisional round last year,
43:3041 to six,
43:32Mike Evans didn't practice on Thursday.
43:34Still managing the rib injury.
43:36Seems to be willing to play through it.
43:37Is he a active,
43:40then start always situation right now?
43:42I mean,
43:42last week with the injury,
43:44still put up double digit fantasy points.
43:45Really tough match.
43:47But he's right around 10.
43:49Like,
43:49would you prefer just go same team?
43:53Mike Evans with the looming ribs or Debo?
43:56I think I go Debo.
43:57Debo's looked really good.
43:59I,
43:59you know,
43:59I,
43:59I don't love either of these players,
44:01but if I had both of them on the roster,
44:03one of them could go out at any second in this game.
44:07So I,
44:07I would,
44:08I would lean Debo there.
44:09You guys remember that tease for the breaking news?
44:11Yeah,
44:11I do.
44:12Um,
44:13we'll get to it right after this break.
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46:47How much time has to pass before it's no longer breaking and it's just news?
46:52Ooh.
46:53Are we still good?
46:54Yeah, we're definitely still good.
46:55What do you call it?
46:56Broken?
46:57Broken news.
46:59Broken news.
Breaking News: Ashton Jeanty
47:01So the news that we're getting right here right now is that
47:04Ashton Gente is not at practice again on Friday
47:07and has been limited with ankle and foot injuries.
47:09The foot is a new addition to the injury report.
47:12He is.
47:12And while this was breaking news and during our break,
47:16I moved Mr.
47:17Mike Washington into my lineup.
47:19Mike Washington will become a very fun,
47:21sexy type of play.
47:23Huge,
47:23huge playability.
47:25You guys feel good about that back there?
47:26Mike Washington joining my lineup,
47:28guys?
47:28Oh,
47:28is this a dynasty?
47:29I hate you.
47:30Maximum points thing?
47:31I told him my entire goal in my point is to steal their pick.
47:34Gente on Sunday,
47:35man,
47:35he came through with a bunch of receptions and everything,
47:39but he looked like a very hurt man.
47:41So this is,
47:43I don't think this is very surprising.
47:45Yeah,
47:45that's big time.
47:46And it,
47:47obviously if Mike Washington is somehow out there,
47:49yeah,
47:49I'm going to go look at his,
47:50you need to make sure that you acquire him.
47:54Mike Washington,
47:55Mike Washington is 93% rostered.
47:57Yeah.
47:57Yeah.
47:57He's done enough.
47:58He had that splash play two games ago.
48:01So that's big news.
48:02All right.
48:03Baltimore three and one Sunday night football taking on the Falcons,
Ravens at Falcons
48:07the Vegas line here,
48:08Atlanta minus three,
48:08the overrunners 43 and a half.
48:11I am on team Falcons,
48:13man.
48:13I,
48:14I think that they look rejuvenated.
48:16I think they're going to cover here.
48:19I'm very much on the Falcon side of the equation.
48:23Um,
48:24I mean,
48:25and this is just a matter of,
48:26I think their offense,
48:27which has been the number one offense the last two weeks.
48:30Hold on.
48:30I up Brooks is updating me.
48:32I guess I was on a,
48:33a dynasty team when I looked at Mike Washington's roster.
48:36Only 36% on redraft.
48:38So redraft it is down.
48:39So redraft,
48:40go get him.
48:41Yeah.
48:41That's,
48:41that's a big,
48:42thank you Brooks.
48:42I was on the wrong league.
48:44Um,
48:46Baltimore,
48:46Atlanta,
48:47Atlanta minus three over under 43 and a half.
48:49You know,
48:50we should have Zay Flowers and we're going to be able to do it.
48:53We don't think we're going to have Lamar.
48:54So you're going to be relying on Tyler Huntley to go on the road against the team that has been able to put up a ton of points.
49:00If you had told me this was just going to be a defensive battle,
49:02I would say,
49:03I think Baltimore will win that game.
49:05But the way Atlanta is playing on offense and the weapons that they have and the way
49:09Pennix has been playing.
49:10I just feel like there's a momentum to that offense right now that I don't,
49:15I don't look at this Ravens defense,
49:1625th against wideouts,
49:1817th against quarterbacks,
49:1912th against running backs,
49:2015th against tight ends.
49:22They're a little bit better when you start adjusting for schedule,
49:24but I still look at that data and say,
49:26well,
49:26we're still forming that a little bit.
49:29So I just don't think that they're a good enough defense to slow down what we've been seeing.
49:33Do you guys disagree?
49:34No,
49:34I don't disagree.
49:35I,
49:36I don't look when you were saying you were talking about the Ravens and they got the
49:38fountains.
49:39I don't view the Ravens as a great defense that is worthy of a bad matchup.
49:45The question is just,
49:46is this a bad matchup?
49:47Yeah,
49:48we've only got two weeks and in those two weeks,
49:50the Falcons have looked unstoppable with Michael Pennix.
49:54I don't necessarily think that that is what their baseline is either.
50:00However,
50:00they're on fire.
50:01Their crowd is super,
50:03you know,
50:04they're going to be insanely into this game at home.
50:07And without Lamar,
50:09yeah,
50:09covering the spread makes sense.
50:11But as far as matchup goes,
50:12I'm certainly not afraid of the matchup for Bijan or Drake London,
50:16nor would I be afraid of any matchup right now.
50:18Those two guys are so safe.
50:20Kyle Pitts,
50:21on the other hand,
50:23I don't know.
50:24Dude,
50:24what is going on with Kyle Pitts?
50:27Honestly,
50:27honestly,
50:28what's going on with Kyle Pitts is unneeded.
50:31It's not anything he's doing wrong.
50:33It's just,
50:34hey,
50:34why don't I just throw the ball to Drake London first?
50:37Or why don't I just give the ball to Bijan?
50:39And it always works.
50:41When you're the number one offense the last two weeks,
50:43that means you don't have to defend yourself against utilization of Kyle Pitts.
50:47Yeah,
50:48I mean,
50:49Drake London's utilization has been incredible.
50:55Last week,
50:56he only had 96 yards because he was completely unneeded in the second half of that game.
51:02Here's what I mean by what is going on with Kyle Pitts, though.
51:07Kyle Pitts just signed a very lucrative extension with the Atlanta Falcons.
51:12The numbers I have are that he has played on 59% of Atlanta's routes.
51:19A pass-catching tight end who has as many catches on the gear as Austin Hooper.
51:28Oh,
51:29we got news.
51:31Breaking news.
51:33Kyle Manungai has been ruled out formally.
51:36Pick up Roshan Johnson,
51:38everybody.
51:39Oh,
51:39update on the Mike Washington roster percentage in the nine leagues I'm in.
51:43100% roster.
51:44Yeah,
51:44I know.
51:45It's a weird thing.
51:46When people are engaged,
51:48it seems like that's impossible,
51:49but we have to at least report what the actual truth is.
51:53Yeah.
51:54There's home and casual leagues out there.
51:57People listening,
51:58you should be picking up Roshan.
51:59Roshan definitely needs to be picked up.
52:00I don't know if I'm playing Roshan.
52:02No,
52:02you're not playing him if Swift is active.
52:04But if Swift also misses the game,
52:07which is,
52:07then you play Roshan.
52:08You know,
52:09the realm of possibility,
52:10then Roshan becomes like a must start.
52:13Yeah.
52:13It consolidates a great running game against about a running defense to one
52:16dude.
52:17Circling back to this game though,
52:18London's a lock.
52:19Bijan's a lock.
52:20Kyle Pitts,
52:2110% target share.
52:22You're probably not playing him anytime soon.
52:24No.
52:24And,
52:25uh,
52:25you know,
52:26he's always going to be capable of that crazy wild breakout game with a
52:29big play.
52:30He's athletic.
52:31But I mean,
52:31you got my point.
52:32My counterpoint to Mike is this.
52:35You signed Kyle Pitts.
52:37Yeah.
52:39To an extension.
52:40Yes.
52:42Because of your,
52:43I mean,
52:44he didn't produce for them for all of the time he played for them before the
52:48extension,
52:48whatever he's doing,
52:50they're happy with it.
52:51Yeah.
52:51It's good enough.
52:52It's good enough to lock and do other things.
52:54They need him there.
52:54And honestly,
52:55if Drake London goes down,
52:56we know Kyle Pitts can step up.
52:58He's,
52:58he's an important depth piece for them.
53:00Uh,
53:01he is capable.
53:02It's a weird amount of money to,
53:03but this game is really,
53:05really,
53:05really easy to me.
53:06I mean,
53:06it's start both single running max.
53:09Bijan and Derek Henry start both of the solo wide receivers.
53:13Zay flowers and Drake London and check out.
53:16I'm still starting Zay flowers,
53:18even though Lamar's not there,
53:20but I'm,
53:21I'm not happy.
53:22I'm not excited about it.
53:23I mean,
53:23the two catches it's wild.
53:24The two catches for Zay last week that were great were pinpoint placement
53:28from Lamar.
53:29So,
53:29uh,
53:30he can get separation.
53:32They were perfect.
53:32One of those throws.
53:34Perfect.
53:34Unbelievable.
53:35But it,
53:35but Zay is getting wide open.
53:38And if,
53:39if,
53:39I mean,
53:39if we're just going to have backyard ball,
Bills at Rams
53:41probably the Buffalo bills,
53:43our Monday night football game is a great one.
53:46The Buffalo bills,
53:47three and one,
53:48the Rams,
53:48two and two Vegas line,
53:50Los Angeles,
53:51the Rams favored by three over under is 54 and a half.
53:54Second highest implied point total for the Rams at 28 and a half or 28.8.
54:01Um,
54:02this is,
54:02this is exciting.
54:03I mean,
54:03the last time we saw these two teams play,
54:05the Rams won 44 to 42.
54:10Oh,
54:10gorgeous.
54:11The Rams offense,
54:12the bills defense being suspect.
54:16Are you being game perv again?
54:17Are you being a game perv?
54:19I want this game.
54:19Monday night.
54:21Yeah.
54:21Oh my gosh.
54:24Um,
54:24I want this game.
54:26Yeah.
54:27It just start everybody.
54:28Just start,
54:28just start everybody.
54:29Oh,
54:30what did he say?
54:31What did he say?
54:33Uh,
54:33yeah,
54:34I mean,
54:34what about Dalton Kincaid who has been,
54:36uh,
54:36invisible?
54:37I'm pulling a Kyle pits last two weeks.
54:39I'm still playing.
54:40He is.
54:41Yeah.
54:41A little bit of the pits.
54:43Uh,
54:44a lot of the pits,
54:45I guess for when you've started him,
54:47the routes last week were down.
54:49Um,
54:50I did see a clip of,
54:51uh,
54:52Josh Allen's pulling his breast best.
54:55Uh,
54:56uh,
54:56uh,
54:57what did he say?
54:58What did he say?
54:59His best,
55:00uh,
55:00deck where they're on the goal line and Dalton released.
55:04It was like,
55:05throw me the ball,
55:06Josh.
55:07Cause it would have been a free touchdown and he didn't do it.
55:09So fifth,
55:11we're still 50,
55:1250 on Dalton Kincaid.
55:14I am leaning on the side of,
55:16I still,
55:16I'm going to put them out there and believe.
55:20Yeah.
55:20We,
55:21we have a bunch of great starts here.
55:23Monitoring the DJ more situation.
55:25Tyler Higby seems like Tyler Higby is a fine start at,
55:29at the tight end position in a game.
55:30Fine young start.
55:31Yeah.
55:31Not young,
55:32but he's a fine old start.
55:3433 years old,
55:35but,
55:35um,
55:36you know,
55:3711 targets.
55:38Yeah.
55:38I'm very in on that.
55:39Six targets last week.
55:41He's had over 60 yards in both of these games that we've had,
55:45you know,
55:45we,
55:45we've had Puka back and they just,
55:49all of their tight ends are gone.
55:51They're,
55:51they're,
55:52they're left with Higby.
55:53And so Higby is,
55:55uh,
55:56a fine enough start.
55:57I don't expect a monster performance.
55:59Would you,
56:00same game Higby or Dalton Kincaid?
56:03I would want the upside of Kincaid.
56:05I do think that maybe the floor is higher with Higby,
56:08but if you get seven points versus four points,
56:12yeah,
56:12I don't really care.
56:13Generally not a huge deal.
56:14I want the chance at,
56:15at a,
56:15you know,
56:1615,
56:1620 point game,
56:17which I think that's only on the Kincaid side.
56:18Did you guys say that you'll play Keon Coleman even if DJ Moore's active?
56:22We didn't talk about Keon Coleman.
56:24So,
56:24I mean that,
56:24that was a conversation you had in your head.
56:26Yeah,
56:26it was yourself.
56:26Well,
56:27I know you said start everybody.
56:28So I just wanted to make sure that I,
56:30I drilled down a little bit here.
56:32Cause I think it's confusing.
56:33I think,
56:33you know,
56:34Khalil Shakir is always going to get his,
56:35uh,
56:36Malik Washington targets.
56:38So that doesn't really change.
56:40It's just,
56:41I don't know if I trust Keon Coleman with DJ Moore back.
56:43I don't,
56:44I don't either.
56:44I think that you lied.
56:46Well,
56:46I mean,
56:46you lied when you said start everyone.
56:48You're a liar.
56:49You're basically saying you're a liar.
56:50When I,
56:50I am a liar.
56:51I would not start.
56:52Canata Mumfield.
56:53Um,
56:55I can go if you want.
56:56Okay.
56:56You don't think Keon Coleman's a real,
56:58I mean,
56:58Keon Coleman's the biggest free agent signing of the week.
57:00I think it's worth a talk.
57:01No,
57:02it is.
57:02He is an automatic start to me.
57:04If DJ Moore is gone,
57:06if he is back,
57:07I think you can throw him in there just to have pieces of this game,
57:10but he's not a must start.
57:11Okay.
57:12Would you play a Trey Harris or Keon Coleman with DJ Moore back?
57:16I'd play Keon Coleman.
57:17Yeah.
57:17Keon Coleman.
57:18Injury updates.
57:19More of them.
57:19Stefan Diggs officially ruled out for week five.
57:21Jaden Daniels will play in week five.
57:24And,
57:24uh,
57:25they said Terry McLaurin is trending in the right direction as well.
57:27They did.
57:28Zach Taylor said that Jamar Chase is in the protocol.
57:32T Higgins will be questionable.
57:33Jason,
57:34what were you going to say?
57:34I was just saying,
57:35I'm very happy that Jaden Daniels will play in week five because we'll talk about him in just a second.
57:40Oh man.
57:42Okay.
57:42You risked that.
57:43Yes,
57:44sir.
57:44Now,
57:44you know,
57:44it's,
57:45it's Jaden,
57:45not Jalen.
57:46Oh,
57:47shoot.
57:48Not again.
57:49The line was so low.
Fantasy Faceoff + Wheel of Shame
57:50The line was so good.
57:53Uh,
57:53no,
57:53you're saved by the fact you played on Thursday night football.
57:55Let's jump in.
58:00Fantasy face off presented by prize pigs.
58:08Well,
58:08uh,
58:09despite going three for four and missing,
58:11what a loser.
58:13Missing one by four yards from being perfect.
58:15I am somehow,
58:16some way.
58:17We are crushing these.
58:22Wheel of shame.
58:28Did I,
58:29did I mention how close to perfect that was?
58:31Yeah.
58:31Um,
58:31all right,
58:31let's spin that wheel.
58:32I'm ready to be so ashamed.
58:33Did you talk about how perfect I was?
58:35So ashamed.
58:36Spin it.
58:38I'm so ashamed.
58:39You were technically perfect as well,
58:40right?
58:40Yeah,
58:41technically speaking.
58:42Yeah.
58:43All right.
58:43I love a technicality.
58:44What does that say?
58:44Run forest run.
58:46Oh,
58:47very nice.
58:47Who am I?
58:49Uh,
58:50do you not understand the reference?
58:53Yeah,
58:53it's really not.
58:54It's not hidden.
58:54It's kind of in the name.
58:56Uh,
58:56why do I have a ladies wig?
58:58You're putting the beard on.
59:00Oh,
59:01like a mullet.
59:03Oh man,
59:04you put the beard on the back of your head.
59:06Now do you know why I was confused?
59:08Yeah.
59:08Yeah.
59:09I don't know.
59:09Uh,
59:12you put the beard on like a mullet.
59:16There you go.
59:16There he is.
59:17There he is.
59:19Run forest.
59:20Run.
59:21That's pretty good.
59:22I mean,
59:22it's not the most,
59:24uh,
59:24I mean,
59:25I'm breathing a lot of hair.
59:26All right.
59:27Could have been worse.
59:28Yeah.
59:28No,
59:29I'll take it.
59:29You were three for four.
59:30So I took it easy.
59:31Thank you.
59:32Um,
59:33maybe guys,
59:34I don't know.
59:34Uh,
59:35I thought it was a ladies wig.
59:37All right.
59:38Why don't you guys talk more than me?
59:40Okay.
59:40Look,
59:40I'll go right into Jaden Daniels at quarterback.
59:42Uh,
59:43I have him more than 30 Jaden Daniels,
59:47the quarterback,
59:47more than 30 and a half rushing yards.
59:51Now I think there's a lot of fear over there.
59:53Like the elbow.
59:54Yeah.
59:54Is he going to run?
59:55Yeah,
59:55he's going to run.
59:56He's going,
59:57he's going to run the ball.
59:59That's part of his entire like presence on the field.
1:00:04Um,
1:00:04at 30 and a half,
1:00:05I think is a projection that,
1:00:06you know,
1:00:07I,
1:00:07he pretty much always hits that.
1:00:09Uh,
1:00:10obviously the projection is lower.
1:00:11I think it's a really scary one.
1:00:13Yeah.
1:00:13It's probably the scariest one of mine,
1:00:16but I'm fine with it.
1:00:17That's fun.
1:00:17Uh,
1:00:18my quarterback is my green goblin.
1:00:20Uh,
1:00:21I'll be taking Jared Goff,
1:00:22209 and a half passing yards.
1:00:24We'll go more.
1:00:25Well,
1:00:26my quarterback is my green goblin as well.
1:00:28It's been a trend this year.
1:00:28And it is a name.
1:00:30You probably didn't think I'd ever utter.
1:00:32Justin Herbert.
1:00:33Oh,
1:00:34Oh,
1:00:34mercy.
1:00:35Oh no.
1:00:36Is passing yards.
1:00:38Projection is 149.5.
1:00:40I'm taking the more.
1:00:41Okay.
1:00:41Yeah.
1:00:42Uh,
1:00:42also a part of your costume is you have to have,
1:00:45uh,
1:00:46Juwan Jennings in your,
1:00:47uh,
1:00:49no.
1:00:51Okay.
1:00:52Now I understand.
1:00:54Um,
1:00:54all right.
1:00:54What does it have to do with the girl wig?
1:00:57Uh,
1:00:58at running back.
1:00:59This is my green goblin.
1:01:01Bijan Robinson,
1:01:02more than 13 and a half rushing attempts.
1:01:06Nice.
1:01:07That will be very easy.
1:01:10All right.
1:01:10Oh,
1:01:10says Mr.
1:01:12Green.
1:01:12Have you ever gotten a green goblin?
1:01:13Yeah,
1:01:14I was,
1:01:14I got my green goblin last week.
1:01:16Uh,
1:01:17got to drop a little hate.
1:01:18I apologize.
1:01:19Everyone.
1:01:19I'm still starting him on my fantasy team.
1:01:21Don't worry about that.
1:01:23But Derek Henry,
1:01:2484 and a half rushing yards.
1:01:26That's against the Falcons.
1:01:29I'll take the left.
1:01:30Yeah.
1:01:30Without Lamar.
1:01:31If you do think that the Falcons are going to win,
1:01:33you're going to end up.
1:01:34I look,
1:01:35I'm still going to play him.
1:01:36You can still get a touchdown.
1:01:37And Henry is the kind of guy who can destroy this on one place.
1:01:40But I think that the way that the Atlanta front is playing right now,
1:01:44I'll.
1:01:45Okay.
1:01:45I don't mind that.
1:01:46Well,
1:01:46this one's not.
1:01:47Yeah.
1:01:47I mean,
1:01:48this one got stronger as the show went on.
1:01:50I'm taking Deandre Swift,
1:01:5268.5 rushing yards.
1:01:54I'm taking the more.
1:01:55Ooh.
1:01:56Yeah.
1:01:56Me too.
1:01:57Uh,
1:01:58that's if,
1:01:59if he is active and Mononga is out,
1:02:01that feels like a green goblin,
1:02:04um,
1:02:04at wide receiver,
1:02:05I'm going with a teammate of Deandre Swift.
1:02:08I'm going with Roma Dunze,
1:02:09who's been out there getting it done.
1:02:12His receiving projection is 41 and a half receiving yards.
1:02:16And I will take more than that.
1:02:18All right.
1:02:19I'm going Michael Wilson.
1:02:20I'm going back to the well.
1:02:22The projection has jumped significantly since last week,
1:02:26but I want,
1:02:26look,
1:02:27it's the lines.
1:02:28We're going in 74 and a half.
1:02:30Oh,
1:02:30you're going more.
1:02:31More.
1:02:32I love it.
1:02:33Yeah.
1:02:34Wow.
1:02:34I mean,
1:02:3430 targets in two weeks.
1:02:36It'd be weird if that stopped.
1:02:37Why take,
1:02:38why take Michael Wilson when you could take his teammate,
1:02:41Marvin Harrison.
1:02:42What are you doing?
1:02:43man,
1:02:44what are you doing?
1:02:44He wants to wear another wig next week.
1:02:47My,
1:02:48my,
1:02:48if the theme of my thing is dirty,
1:02:51dirty,
1:02:51Justin Herbert,
1:02:52dirty,
1:02:52Marvin Harrison,
1:02:54um,
1:02:55not a green goblin,
1:02:55but 32 and a half receiving yards.
1:02:57Oh,
1:02:57I know it's not a goblin more.
1:03:00Cause if it was a goblin,
1:03:01it would be less.
1:03:05Oh man.
1:03:06You know,
1:03:06you don't have to do that,
1:03:07right?
1:03:08I did it.
1:03:08Okay.
1:03:10Uh,
1:03:10are we?
1:03:11So tight ends,
1:03:12I'm going with Mike's start of the week.
1:03:14Isaiah likely.
1:03:15Okay.
1:03:15Uh,
1:03:16his projection is same as Rome.
1:03:1841 and a half receiving yards.
1:03:19I will take more on that line.
1:03:21It's a great matchup.
1:03:22Hey,
1:03:22we're going for it,
1:03:23man.
1:03:24We're right.
1:03:24You want to talk dirty about dirty?
1:03:27Greg D.
1:03:28Greg.
1:03:29against the bangles.
1:03:30Let's see if it can keep working.
1:03:3325 and a half receiving yards.
1:03:36We're going for it,
1:03:37baby.
1:03:37Greg D all the way.
1:03:38Uh,
1:03:39ironically,
1:03:39my,
1:03:39my tight end also has a 25 and a half receiving yard line that I'm taking the
1:03:43moron.
1:03:44It's Tyler Higby.
1:03:45I'm taking,
1:03:46I'm taking Tyler Higby more than all more.
1:03:51Look at us,
1:03:52how positive we are this week.
1:03:53All the mores.
1:03:54Except one.
1:03:54I have one less.
1:03:55I have one.
1:03:56One of these days I'm going to get just a full hater,
1:03:59full hater lineup.
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