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Lex Fridman reflects on Ayahuasca trip with Elon Musk

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0:02- Do you think there'll be,

0:04let me ask a Joe Rogan question.

0:05Do you think there'll be, (laughs)

0:07I just recently taken ayahuasca.

0:11- Is that a Rogan question? - No.

0:12Well, yes. - Well, I guess,

0:13technically it is.

0:15- Yeah. - Ever tried GMT, bro?

0:17(both laughing)

0:19- I love you, Joe. - Okay.

0:21(laughing continues)

0:22- But wait, wait, yeah.

0:23Have you said much about it?

0:25The ayahuasca? - I've not, I've not.

0:26I've not. - Okay, well,

0:28why are you spilling the beans?

0:29(Lex laughing)

0:30It was a truly incredible thing-

0:31- Turn the tables on you.

0:32(both laughing)

0:33- Wow, okay. - You're in the jungle.

0:36- [Lex] Yeah, amongst the trees myself and-

0:38- Yeah, must been crazy. - And the shaman.

0:39Yeah, yeah, yeah, with the insects,

0:41with the animals all around you,

0:43like jungle as far as I can see.

0:44There's no- - I mean-

0:45- That's the way to do it.

0:47- Things are gonna look pretty wild.

0:48- Yeah, pretty wild.

0:49(Elon laughing)

0:51- I think in extremely high dose.

0:54- Just don't go hugging an anaconda or something. (laughs)

0:58- You haven't lived unless you made love to an anaconda.

1:01I'm sorry, but-

1:03- Snakes and ladders.

1:05(both laughing)

1:07- Yeah, I took a extremely high dose of-

1:10- [Elon] Okay. (laughs)

1:11- Nine cups and- - Damn.

1:13Okay, that sounds like a lot.

1:14Of course, is Noland's one cup or-

1:17- One or two.

1:18Usually, one.

1:19- You went, wait.

1:21Like right off the bat, or did you work your way up to it?

1:24- So I- (both laughing)

1:26- You're just jumping at the deep end.

1:27- Across two days, 'cause then the first day,

1:29I took two and I- - Okay.

1:31- It was a ride, but it wasn't quite like a-

1:33- It wasn't like revelation.

1:35- It wasn't into deep space type ride.

1:37It was just like a little airplane ride.

1:39- [Elon] (laughs) Okay.

1:41- Saw some trees and some visuals and all that.

1:43I just saw a dragon, all that kind of stuff.

1:45But- (laughs)

1:47- It's nine cups.

1:48You went to Pluto, I think.

1:49- [Lex] Pluto, yeah.

1:50No, deep space.

1:51- Deep space.

1:52- No, one of the interesting aspects of my experience

1:56is I thought I would have some demons,

1:57some stuff to work through.

1:59- That's what people-

2:00- That's what everyone says.

2:01- That's what everyone says.

2:02Yeah, exactly. - I had nothing.

2:03I had it all positive.

2:04I just- - Oh, just pure soul.

2:06- I don't think so, I don't know. (laughs)

2:10But I kept thinking about,

2:11it had like extremely high resolution,

2:15thoughts about the people I know in my life.

2:17You were there. - Okay.

2:18- And it's just not from my relationship with that person,

2:22but just as the person themselves,

2:24I had just this deep gratitude of who they are.

2:26- That's cool. - It was just like

2:28this exploration, like Sims or whatever,

2:31you get to watch them. - Sure.

2:32- I got to watch people

2:34and just be in awe of how amazing they are.

2:36- That sounds awesome. - Yeah, it was great.

2:38I was waiting for- - When's Steven coming?

2:40(both laughing)

2:41- Exactly.

2:42Maybe I'll have some negative thoughts.

2:44Nothing, nothing.

2:46Just extreme gratitude for them.

2:49And then also, a lot of space travel.

2:51(both laughing)

2:52- Space travel to where?

2:54- So here's what it was.

2:55It was people, the human beings that I know,

3:00they had this kinda,

3:01the best way to describe it is they had a glow to them.

3:04And then I kept flying out from them to see earth,

3:10to see our solar system, to see our galaxy.

3:14And I saw that light, that glow all across the universe.

3:19Like whatever that form is.

3:21whatever that like-

3:24- [Elon] Did you go past the Milky Way?

3:26- Yeah, yeah. - Okay.

3:27You're like intergalactic.

3:29- Yeah, intergalactic. - Okay, dang.

3:30- But always pointing in- - Okay.

3:32- Yeah, past the Milky way.

3:35I mean, I saw like a huge number of galaxies,

3:37intergalactic, and all of it was glowing.

3:41But I couldn't control that chill,

3:42'cause I would actually explore near distances

3:45to the solar system, see if there's aliens

3:47or any of that kinda stuff.

3:48I didn't know- - Is there aliens?

3:49Zero aliens? - Implication of aliens

3:51because they were glowing.

3:52They were glowing in the same way that humans were glowing.

3:56That like life force that I was seeing,

3:59the thing that made humans amazing

4:02was there throughout the universe.

4:03Like there was these glowing dots.

4:07So I don't know.

4:08It made me feel like there is life.

4:11No, not life, but something,

4:13whatever makes humans amazing all throughout the universe.

4:16- Sounds good. - Yeah, it was amazing.

4:17No demons, no demons.

4:19I looked for the demons.

4:21There's no demons.

4:21There were dragons, and they're pretty awesome.

4:23So the thing about-

4:24- Was there anything scary at all?

4:28- Dragons?

4:28But they weren't scary.

4:29They were friends, they were protective.

4:31So the thing is- - "Puff, the Magic Dragon."

4:33- No, it was more like a "Game of Thrones" kind of dragons.

4:37They weren't very friendly.

4:38They were very big.

4:38So the thing is that, well, giant trees at night,

4:42which is where I was. - Yeah.

4:43I mean, the jungle's kinda scary.

4:45- Yeah, the trees started to look like dragons,

4:47and they were all like looking at me.

4:50- Sure, okay. - And it didn't seem scary.

4:52They seemed like they were protecting me.

4:53And the shaman and the people didn't speak any English,

4:57by the way, which made it even scarier I guess. (laughs)

4:59We're not even like, you know,

5:02we're worlds apart in many ways.

5:07But yeah, they talk about the mother of the forest

5:11protecting you, and that's what I felt like.

5:13- And you're way out in the jungle?

5:14- Way out.

5:15This is not like a tourist retreat.

5:19- Like 10 miles outside of a Rio or something?

5:21- No, we went-

5:22(both laughing)

5:24No, this is not- - Deep in the Amazon.

5:26- Me and this guy named Paul Rosolie

5:28who basically is Tarzan.

5:30He lives in the jungle.

5:32We went out deep and we just went crazy.

5:34- Wow, cool. - Yeah.

5:35So anyway, can I get that same experience within Neuralink?

5:38- Probably, yeah.

5:39- I guess that is the question for non-disabled people.

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