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35M with One Upload
0:0035 million views with a single upload.
0:03This is what this creator was able to
0:04manage and I needed to figure out
0:06exactly how he did it. So I hit up
0:08Dantic and in this episode he tells us
0:10exactly how he became one of the fastest
0:12growing channels in entertainment.
0:14>> Like if you look at that thumbnail, the
0:16way I even just like built that room was
0:18for the thumbnail.
0:18>> He breaks down the details creators
0:20should focus on to grow a loyal
0:22audience. a metric that no one ever
0:24talks about when like talking about
0:25click-through rate is like what was the
0:26viewers experience with the last video
0:28that you did
0:28>> and how he transforms dead videos into
0:30viral outliers.
0:31>> But I did a POV and the next day it I
0:34swear down it went from like a nine to a
0:361 out of 10. That's how crazy the change
0:39was.
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The airplane-seats idea
1:15popular video. I tried gaming in every
1:17airplane seat hit 33 million views.
1:20>> Yeah, I know it's crazy.
1:21>> How did you come up with that idea? What
1:23was your ideation process?
1:24>> Shall I tell you my viral for uh formula
1:27to get a one out of 10 like that? Cuz I
1:29literally this specific idea, I
1:31basically researched what does well on
1:34YouTube, like what does insanely well.
1:37And the one thing I uh notice that does
1:39well on pretty much everybody's channel,
1:41no matter what niche you're in is
1:43playing videos. Casey Neistat did it,
1:45Ryan Tran did it, Mr. Beast did it. Like
1:47they're all like 80 mil, 50 mil, 100 mil
1:51view like uh videos that they've done on
1:54planes. I was like, "Okay, plane seats
1:55is like one that I could maybe do for my
1:57channel." So, initially I thought,
1:59"Okay, how can I combine like this viral
2:01idea with my channel's niche, which is
2:04like gaming and tech?" And I thought to
2:06myself, like I was literally on a plane
2:08at the time when thinking of this idea
2:09and I was thinking, well, I've got like
2:11a handheld gaming device in my hand. How
2:14about instead of like going over plane
2:16seats, I talk about stuff that like
2:18gamers would normally care about. So
2:20like the tech in the seat, like what
2:22sort of like USB charging options are
2:24there? What's the Wi-Fi like? And then
2:26just and then other things obviously
2:27like the seat quality and stuff. It's a
2:28bit similar to Ryan Trey's video, but
2:31it's like for gamers. So like that's
2:32like my kind of spin on it. Basically,
2:34my formula is just take like a viral
2:36video. I look at basically any video
2:38that has done over like 10 to 20 30
2:41million views. I try and combine it with
2:43my channel's niche and then I'll try and
2:45put like a a purple cow thumbnail on
2:48there that no one has ever seen before.
2:49And if the audience doesn't know what a
2:50purple cow is, do you want me to explain
2:52what the purple
Purple Cow thumbnails
2:53>> I don't know what it is?
2:54>> Oh, please. It's a really
2:55>> Oh, you don't know what the purple cow
2:56scenario is? Oh, this is brilliant. I
2:59can I can uh this this this is uh
3:01perfect. So, a purple cow, if you were
3:04like driving down uh a road, let's say
3:06in this scenario, you're driving down a
3:08road and you see a bunch of cows, right?
3:09You wouldn't think anything of it. Like,
3:11you just you just drive down the road.
3:13There's cows are okay, whatever. If you
3:15saw a purple cow, what the hell is what
3:19you double take it and you you'd
3:20probably think about it for the entire
3:22drive, the week, the month after, like
3:24you just wouldn't stop thinking about
3:25it. It's because you've never seen it
3:27before. And I kind of I try and take
3:32that like philosophy and put it into my
3:34thumbnails. Try and show the audience
3:36something they've never seen before like
3:38or at least like an angle or a view that
3:40is completely different to anything that
3:42else like anything else that is on the
3:44their homepage. There's being unique and
3:46then there's like purple cows that are
3:48just like they completely your eyes are
3:51just drawn to them. So,
3:53you you'll see in most of my thumbnails,
3:55I try and put something in there that
3:57not many people have seen before or like
3:58just uh maybe it's like the composition
4:00of the thumbnail or an a single element.
4:03Like whenever I do bedroom videos, I
4:04always try and put like a folding bed in
4:07the thumbnail just because it's
4:09completely like like it's it's so
4:11unique. Not that many people have seen
4:13it before. So, with the playing video, I
4:16if you want to know my exact formula to
4:18how I got that uh video, it's um I can
4:21actually even uh type out so you guys
4:23can put it on the screen. It it's
4:24literally the formula I use every single
4:26video to try and like make it do a one
4:28out of 10. It's how and that's how I'm
4:29like thinking of my video ideas. I've
4:31got it here, right here. So, you take an
4:33idea that has proven to get 10 mil views
4:36plus and that that that can be, you
4:38know, a variable. It can be a mill. It
4:40can be whatever you're trying to aim
4:41for, but if you're like uh me and you're
4:43trying to go for like the most most
4:45views possible, I try and pick something
4:47that has got got like 10 mil views plus,
4:50then you times the idea with content
4:52that your audience is already familiar
4:54with. Uh so for me that was gaming. Uh
4:57and then you again times that idea with
5:01a thumbnail that no one has ever seen
The 1/10 Formula
5:03before, which is a purple cow. Like it's
5:0610 10 mil view plus idea times content
5:10that your audience is already familiar
5:11with times purple cow equals 1 out of
5:1410. That's my formula. Like that's how I
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Why POV thumbnails crush
6:03pod.
6:03>> Speaking of the purple cow, like dude, I
6:05remember I saw this video when it had
6:06like 3 million views. I was like, "Holy
6:08this is such a cool video." And
6:10what really grabbed my attention is
6:11like, you know, I've seen a lot of the
6:12airplane videos from Beast and from
6:14Tran. But like, you are spot on. Like,
6:16I'm a gamer. I like gaming. Um, so I was
6:18like really drawn to it, but like what
6:19really like sold me on this video above
6:22all outs above like the seeds is the
6:24POV. Like the POV of holding like the
6:26controller from like the like into like
6:28the things. So like I I like I was on a
6:30Thai Airflight and they actually have
6:31like that exact same like kind of
6:32controller. So I'm like, "Oh, that's
6:33kind of cool." And then it's like also
6:34like on like the the POV of like holding
6:36like the PlayStation controller and like
6:37like the golden suite. I was like, "This
6:39is super sick." Like that's how I would
6:41be experiencing it. Like I've got to
6:42click on it. It was just like it was
6:43such a
6:44>> I mean purple cow thumbnail is so
6:46unique. No one ever like no one ever
6:48does POV thumbnails and it worked so so
6:50well here. It was awesome. Another
6:52another reason why POV works so well is
6:54because if you I've learned that most of
6:58the time if you're focusing on your face
7:00and the thumbnail rather than the actual
7:02concept and like the idea of the video
7:04itself, you'll get way less views. Like
7:07any single time I've taken myself out of
7:09thumbnail, the clickthrough rate has
7:11gone up a bit and then impressions have
Faces vs concepts
7:12just shot up like every single time
7:15without fail. I don't think there's
7:17really been a time where I've put myself
7:18in a thumbnail other than for reference
7:20only that like the clickthrough rate has
7:23gone up like because there's just a a
7:25number of reasons if you focus on the
7:27actual idea and the reason why people
7:29would want to click in the first place.
7:30I feel that's the the best way to
7:32optimize a thumbnail is like give the
7:33audience what they actually want. Don't
7:35focus on you. I think there's so many
7:36thumbnails out there where I mean it's
7:38fine to put yourself in the thumbnail. I
7:40do it all the time as well, but like I
7:43find that like the best way to think
7:45about it is just like try and be as
7:47least selfish as possible. Like in my
7:50head I think about what does the
7:52audience want? Because I'm a slave to
7:53the audience. Like I I generally I am a
7:55slave to them. What do they want? They
7:57want like to find an uh an interesting
8:00video to click on. So I'm providing that
8:02for them. I should just give them that
8:04like ju that what they want to click on.
8:07I don't need to like have me half in the
8:09thumbnail. I mean, it it helps uh on the
8:12first 24 hours because uh here's my
8:15thumbnail process. Like I normally have
8:17myself in the thumbnail for the first 24
8:18hours so my core audience can click on
8:21it. It can be like 24 hours to a week
8:23and then like I take myself out and
8:25focus on the concept or if I'm in it,
8:28I'll be like I'm just in it for
8:30reference. If you go to like here's a
8:32really interesting study that I found
8:34which I found this out while I was like
8:35really ill and I just went to every
8:38single like top YouTubers channel like
8:40you know the top 100 YouTubers and I
8:42just went uh and clicked on their most
8:44you know when you can click the the
8:45popular tab on their like videos. You go
8:48to pretty much any YouTuber like nearly
8:5290% of their like top 10 videos don't
8:55have them in it. So, if I was to go on
8:56like Ryan Tran's channel, right, and I
8:59go on to videos and I go on to uh and I
9:02go on to most popular, you'll notice
9:04that most of these thumbnails either
9:07he's not in them or he's only in it for
9:09reference. So, okay, first one that it's
9:12a bit of an outlier, but like you go to
9:14the second, third, fourth one, you can't
9:17even tell that's Ryan if you don't know
9:19Ryan. Like, if you don't know who Ryan
9:20is, you can't tell that's Ryan. Same
9:22thing with like um this car one, this
9:24island one, all these like this entire
9:27row here apart from this one. Like
9:30you can't even really tell it's Ryan
9:32because he's in it for reference. He's
9:33focusing on the content rather than
9:36himself, if that makes sense. Again, you
9:38do the same with like uh Mark Robber,
9:41like you just go onto his most popular
9:44videos. Where are they? Here we go. Like
9:46I don't like what he's kind of doing
9:48now. I think he should be focusing in
9:50like if he wants his his channel uh if
9:51he wants his like videos to go out to
9:53the most widest audience ever. Literally
9:55every single thumbnail he's like in it
9:58for reference. Like this one he's in it
9:59for reference. He doesn't he's not the
10:01star of the thumbnail. The content is um
10:03every single one of these he's in it for
10:05reference instead of just like and I
10:08think that's if you want to generally go
10:09for the most views possible and just hit
10:11like a really really wide audience
10:13that's the best way to go is like focus
10:14on the content in the thumbnail not
10:16yourself.
10:17>> Yeah. I think uh I think it's really
10:18good cuz I reached a similar conclusion
10:21a few years ago when I was working in
10:22the gaming niche. I'd put the gaming
10:24creator's face in the thumbnail and it
10:26get less views.
10:27>> Basically exactly what you came to is
10:28like they don't care about the creator,
10:30they care about the idea,
10:31>> right? So like if you can remove that
10:34limiting factor of like having to be
10:36known in order to get people to click,
10:38it works. Like Mr. Beast can put his
10:39face in every thumbnail because he's
10:41like the most known guy. But if you were
10:43to make Mr. produce content yourself.
10:44Like you wouldn't want to put your face
10:45in the thumbnail cuz no one knows you
10:46yet. You don't have that equity with the
10:48audience.
10:49>> Exactly. And I I feel like when when you
10:51get so big, there's a point where you
10:53know your face is like a recognizable
10:56point to the audience. But even I still
10:58feel like I could like one thing that I
11:00could I generally would criticize Mr.
11:02Beast on is I feel like sometimes his
11:04face does take up way too much of the
11:06actual content. Like okay, like for
11:08example, again, not to be not I'm not
11:09being a Mr. Beast hater. I'm just
11:11friendly criticizing his uh his
11:13thumbnail game here. But if I go on to
11:15his channel, here's how I would critique
11:17Mr. Beast that the one with the cheat is
11:18really good because he's in it for
11:20reference. But like there's some here. I
11:22think the plane video from now is awful.
11:26>> Like I can't even tell it's a plane. I I
11:28can't even tell it's a plane from like
11:30where I'm looking. He's taken up most of
11:32the the screen.
11:33>> I I feel like there's so many where like
11:35you've hit like 500 million views now.
11:39There is now a point where not every
11:41single like there's a whole new audience
11:43now who don't know who you are once you
11:45reach like 500 million views. I think
11:48that's the the time to take yourself out
11:49the thumbnail. Uh Jimmy, just saying
11:52like um the house one I feel like
11:55there's a lot of these thumbnails where
11:56I'm like I think once they get past like
11:59you know 400 million views once you get
12:01past the amount of people who know about
12:02Mr. at least like my mom probably
12:04wouldn't click on this but she'd
12:05probably click on it if he wasn't in the
12:07thumbnail. Like that's how I tried to
12:10think of things sometimes. Like you know
12:12what would make my uh like my mom click
12:14or my dad click or just like the the
12:17random you know the average YouTube
12:18viewer who like how do I make someone
12:21click who isn't my average audience? And
12:22I obviously I know Jimmy's trying to
12:24like reach the most wide appealing
12:26audience ever. So like that I don't know
12:28that's what I that's some critique that
12:29I'd give to Mr. the beast is like in
12:31this I can't even see the plane
12:34generally that's what I'd say that's a a
12:36value that I really uphold a lot is just
12:37like focus on the content because that's
12:39what people are there for like that
12:41you're supposed to be serving the
12:42audience what what they want and I mean
12:44sometimes you know sometime if you're a
12:46personal brand don't listen to anything
12:47I've just said because sometimes like
12:49like if you're just trying to reach the
12:51most uh if you're trying to get the most
12:52wide appealing videos ever do that but
12:55if you're like a personal brand like I
12:57know Ryan Tran's new series it makes
12:59sense for him to put himself in the
13:00thumbnail. I mean, like it it he doesn't
13:03have to listen to anything I just said
13:04there. But if you're trying to get like
13:05a 50 to 100 mil, that's what I'd say.
13:08It's like focus on the content itself.
13:11>> That's what I always say as well, like
13:12for for the thumbnail, the packaging,
13:15you got to attract people who's never
13:17heard of you. Like most people don't
13:19know you are.
13:19>> I found it out in such a heartbreaking
13:21way as well. I uploaded this uh setup
13:23video like where I did my gaming room
13:25and I I put myself in the thumbnail and
13:28I did an A to B test with like myself in
13:31and out and like s the day the day of
13:34taking myself out the the clickthrough
13:36rate shot up and then the video just
13:39really took off. I was like damn people
13:41don't care about me.
13:42>> Yeah, that's how you get new people to
13:44to know who you are.
13:46>> Yeah, exactly man. Plus some people are
13:47judgmental. Some people won't click on
13:48you just because the way you look or
13:50like your age or your gender. So POVs
13:54like some sometimes you just got to get
13:56people to click and then they're like,
13:57"Oh, okay. This looks like a good video
13:58after watching for 15 seconds. Maybe I
14:00will watch this guy." So like yeah, POVs
14:03are brilliant because they just take out
14:04like a lot of a lot of judgment. I'd say
14:06>> for that video, can you show how much
14:08you made and how how it blew up?
14:11>> Okay.
14:11>> Oh, that is I'd be so curious, too.
Money talk
14:13>> Okay. So So I obviously dubbed that
14:14video, so the the the RPM on it is
14:16terrible. Um, I won't give the exact
14:19figure, but I I will say that it did
14:21make six figures.
14:23>> Um,
14:23>> okay.
14:24>> But I I will say again,
14:26>> it's at least $3 RPM. That's great.
14:28>> Yeah, it is exactly lower when you
14:30>> It's basically it's basically an exact
14:33$3 RPM. Um
14:35>> Okay. Okay. Okay.
14:36>> So, uh or three pounds cuz I'm in um in
14:38the UK. Um, so yeah, pretty much most of
14:43that uh like money that the video made,
14:46I invested into the next two videos.
14:48>> So like pretty literally like uh my
14:51sister's video where I surprised her
14:52with her dream bedroom. Like I did so
14:55much for that video where like I got her
14:56like a bedroom, a gaming room, and a
14:59car. And that costs so much money. But
15:02like I also um I also just believe in
15:05just making I really am trying to make
15:06the best videos possible. Like I h not
15:09to have that Mr. Beast mindset, but I do
15:11kind of a little bit of like just invest
15:13everything and just try and make the
15:14best video possible just because I know
15:16that like if people have a good
15:18experience with my video, they're
Underrated metrics
15:20probably going to click on the next one
15:21and the next one. And like, you know,
15:24that's a metric that no one ever talks
15:26about when like talking about
15:27click-through rate is like
15:28>> what was the uh viewers experience with
15:30the last video that you did? Like no one
15:32ever talks about that. like only a few
15:34select people like uh Mario Juice talks
15:37about it a lot generally you talk about
15:38like title thumbnail they're big factors
15:41of what uh makes people click a video
15:42but also just like what was the
15:44experience with your last video did you
15:45make your audience feel something did
15:47were they happy watching it were they
15:48emotional watching it and there's a few
15:50YouTubers who like it doesn't matter
15:53what they post I will just click on
15:55their video because I know they're
15:58amazing videos like uh like uh I used to
16:00work with Nikoana obviously when I was
16:02working with uh with Beta Squad. He
16:04uploads so many good videos that I just
16:06click them no matter what they are cuz I
16:08know every single one is going to be a
16:09banger on the main channel that it's
16:11like on his main channel just goes above
16:13and beyond and I'll click it no matter
16:14what just because I know it's an amazing
16:16video.
16:16>> When the when that video blew up, was
16:18that the the first mega blow up or or
16:21you
16:21>> That was the first mega blowup video.
16:24Yeah. Like that I think it did like I
16:26think it did like 10 million views in 7
16:28days.
16:28>> Then you're immediately thinking, okay,
16:30what's the next video?
16:31>> What's the next video? What's the next
16:32video? Literally that like honestly
16:34guys, I've I've generally lived through
16:36life like just not like crazily
16:39concerned about money just because like
16:41I my family never had like like we we're
16:44never poor but like we were like we we
16:46were always like at the level where like
16:47you've got to just always save money and
16:50like you're buying like own brand
16:53groceries. I guess there was a point in
16:55my life where I really was poor and that
16:56was when I was like working for um
16:59YouTubers
17:01uh and I was like living on my own and I
17:02really just learned how to like live
17:05really cheaply and now that I and once I
17:07got to that point I just thought I don't
17:10need anything else other in my life like
17:12I'm eating. I've got a roof over my
17:14head. Everything else now can just go
17:16into like YouTube videos. Like I'm I
17:19literally I try and wear like really
17:20simple clothes. I don't really want to
17:22like splash out on any like stupid
17:25stuff. I think buying a watch is is a
17:27bit silly, but to me anyway, I know some
17:29people like it, but to me, like buying
17:31like a $10,000 watch, I'm like, that's a
17:33that's a that's a good video. Like, I
17:34could be I could be putting that into
17:36like I I I just want to let people know
17:38that like, you know, I really do just
17:40want to invest all my money into videos
17:42and I'll be doing it till the day I die.
17:44Like, I just I I have a pure passion for
17:47making videos and that's all I'll ever
17:49want to do. Actually, before getting
17:50into that 14 million views you got in in
17:53two months, which is crazy
17:55>> and where you reinvested everything, I'm
17:57curious. You you mentioned about uh
17:58talking about working with YouTubers.
18:01>> Who did you work with? What did you
18:02learn from them? Curious to hear.
18:04>> Yeah. So, I've worked for like the the
18:05two main big YouTubers I worked for was
18:08a a guy who's actually also in my niche
18:10uh in like room renovations, which is a
18:13guy called Frenchy Fries. Uh, so we were
18:15like best friends growing up on YouTube
18:17like uh like we were work like we were
18:20best friends since like uh 12, 13, 14
18:22years old like something somewhere
18:24around about that uh sort of age. We
18:26just grew up on YouTube together just
18:27trying to grow our channels and uh
18:29eventually he blew up and uh decided
18:32that I could uh do some editing for him.
18:34Uh I I moved out to the to the US. I uh
18:39it didn't work out unfortunately like
18:41the Yeah. not not for any shade, but the
18:43uh the I couldn't live like on the uh
18:47the like on how much he could pay me.
18:48So, I I I had to move over to uh doing
18:51other YouTubers work and eventually I
18:54stumbled on uh AJ Shabil from Beta Squad
18:56who was looking for an editor. I applied
18:58for that and I got like a call back the
19:00next day just being like, "Oh my god,
19:02let's work together." So, that's how I
19:03sort of progressed on uh in the YouTube
19:06game. Then I was working for Asia for
19:07about around about two and a half years.
19:09It might be two, but it was around about
19:11that sort of time frame. And uh yeah, I
19:13got some great experiences there.
19:14Originally, it was an editor role, but I
19:17sort of like developed my skills into
19:19like a sort of assistant creator where I
19:21was doing a bit of everything like
19:24ideas, scripting, like thumbnail
19:26concepts. Uh the I was the cameraman, I
19:29was the VFX editor, I was uh the normal
19:31like just like normal editing, just a
19:34bit of everything. And I guess that's
19:36where I realized at that point that hey
19:37maybe I I could be behind the camera
19:39myself and and and doing this myself
19:42sort of thing.
19:42>> I'd say from uh AJ what what what do you
19:46think you learned the most?
19:47>> Just experience in the YouTube game as a
19:49whole just like there's so many things
19:52just like my in those two years
19:54everything improved like my editing got
19:56better my storytelling got better. Uh,
19:58I'm trying to think of like a really
20:00specific thing that would be that would
20:01blow people's minds, but like generally
20:03just working under those guys, seeing
20:05how they think, how they think of ideas,
20:07what would do well, like um, if you want
20:10to get into the YouTube game, work for
20:11YouTubers because sometimes the pay
20:14ain't great, but the experience is like
20:16life-changing.
20:17>> Agreed. I mean, that's why we we have
20:19this consulting part of of of one of 10
20:22as well is we're working with so many
20:24creators with like 30 40 and we see all
20:27different niches, what's working, what
20:29what's not and and and by working with
20:31like so many of them, you you start
20:33learning. So,
20:33>> yeah, it 100% is like there was there
20:36was points where I was like living with
20:37them and just like I was with them every
20:39single day. you just learn, you pick up
20:40on so many different things. Just like
20:43how to do an intro better or like even
20:45just how to word um sentences like I I
20:49Okay, here's one thing that I sort of I
20:52learned with them like they didn't teach
20:54me this, but one thing that I always
20:56like I learned when I was with them is
20:58like just the way I word sentences now.
21:00Like so for example, in a intro for a
21:02video I try not to say I'm about to fly
21:07on all these airplanes. I'd phrase it
21:09more along the line of you're about to
21:10experience all these airplane seats,
21:12like trying to give something to the
21:14viewer rather than receiving. Um, it
21:16kind of relates back to Ryan Tran's like
21:17redemptive framework, like trying to do
21:20something without uh trying to give
21:21something without without receiving.
21:23Trying to give like a video as a gift.
21:25That's a great like mindset cuz you can
21:27learn a whole bunch from that. I mean, I
21:29can go into it more, but I remember
21:30learning that with those guys like just,
21:33you know, because you're in a big house,
21:34you you're all like watching YouTube
21:36videos, you're learning stuff with them
21:38because it's just a completely different
21:39mindset like than just being on your
21:41own.
21:42>> It's interesting to see your your path,
21:44right? Cuz I I can see you're studying
21:46intensively YouTube. You're you're on it
21:48probably every day.
21:50>> And so that's how you came across like,
21:51okay, no faces and and those outliers
21:54stuff.
21:55>> There's a reason why Mr. at least gets
21:56the amount of views he gets like you
21:58know he's him and his team are just so
22:00dedicated and the team that I want to
22:02build is very much like people who are
22:04very dedicated. I don't want to hire
22:06anyone if they're not like I'll just do
22:07this job for a bit and then I'll move on
22:09to the next thing. Like I want people
22:10who are like super dedicated like
22:11learning with me trying to figure out
22:13new things like progress the channel and
22:15therefore I can therefore share the the
Designing for thumbnails
22:17the gains of that with them.
22:19>> So I built my sister her dream 30k
22:21bedroom that hit 14 million fast. Uh,
22:25why do you think that is versus the
22:27rest?
22:27>> Oh, I know why that video did. Like I
22:29that video I kind of like imagined it
22:31would do as well as it did just because
22:33like the thumbnail I planned it out like
22:35two months uh in advance. So the
22:37composition of that thumbnail, you'll
22:40notice that it's just pure leading lines
22:42going into the like the center of the
22:44thumbnail. Like if you look at that
22:46thumbnail, uh the way I even just like
22:49built that room was for the thumbnail.
22:51So, like I I went to like my little like
22:53design software, sketched out the room.
22:55I even like took the angle of the
22:57thumbnail in like my little like room
22:59designer app and I was like that's the
23:02that's the thumbnail. And then it was
23:04just trying to make that in real life.
23:06And then another thing that I did which
23:09I feel like made the video go like
23:11really like really super viral is like
23:13just making it a really wholesome video
23:16and making people feel something. That's
23:18one thing that I'm really trying to do
23:19now within my videos is just make people
23:22feel an emotion.
23:23>> Um, the amount of people who said in the
23:25comment section that they they like
23:27cried at the end. Like I basically
23:30surprised her with a her car at the end
23:32and she she had no clue about it. And
23:34people just were like, "Damn, I cried at
23:37the end of that." Like you finally got a
23:38hug with your sister and I was like,
23:40damn, this is like seeing the impact of
23:43like that and also the views and also
23:45like just how people felt. That's what I
23:47want to do in like my next coming
23:48videos. Like I I was I was slacking a
23:50bit in my last one, but the room that
23:53I'm in right now, the build that I'm
23:54currently on, that's what I really want
23:56to focus on is just making people feel
23:58an emotion. I feel like so many people
24:00who can make you feel an emotion after
24:03watching a video. Like there's there's
24:05two YouTubers that come to mind. I
24:06always feel an emotion when I'm watching
24:07Ryan Tran or one of Niko Amalana's
24:10videos. always feel something like
24:12whether it's a plot twist or I I feel
24:14just like ah that like I feel happy
24:17after watching it. Making viewers feel
24:19something can just make you
24:20>> like they're so much more likely to
24:22watch a next video like watch one of
24:24your next videos or like just recommend
24:27it to a friend. And I I genuinely
24:29believe that is where like big amount of
24:32views comes from because if they enjoyed
24:34the video that much that obviously
24:35retention is good. You just got to pair
24:37that with a good clickable thumbnail and
24:39got yourself a viral video there.
24:40>> One of the things that I think is really
24:42interesting um about that video, which I
24:45think you probably have the answer to
Retention hacks
24:47this. It's probably a pretty simple
24:48answer.
24:48>> Okay.
24:49>> Is you did I built my dream $20,000
24:51bedroom 10 months ago. So that was prior
24:53to the sister one. This one
24:54outperformed.
24:55>> Would you say that outperformance is
24:57because you're doing it for someone
24:58else? Because it's the storytelling
24:59because you leveled up since then? Like
25:01why do you think
25:02>> Oh, a million things have improved.
25:03>> Yeah. I'd love to know like why do you
25:05think that one did this sister video did
25:07so much better than your own video when
25:09the content is somewhat similar? I got
25:12this guy called Mario Juice who's like a
25:14very very you know crazy retention
25:16expert and he roasted uh this video here
25:19which is I built my ultimate dual gaming
25:22room and there was so many little things
25:24I picked up on that he said which was
25:27like double explaining intros like I al
25:30I also asked him about like oh why do so
25:32many people like lose retention after
25:35the initial reaction of a room and he
25:37was basically telling me that like
25:38you've kind of fulfilled the promise of
25:40the video and you've not left the
25:42audience with something else to look
25:43forward to. So, in my sister's video,
25:45you'll notice that in fact, do you want
25:47me to pull up the retention for that
25:48video? Cuz like this is crazy. Why? This
25:52is like Mario Juice is the whole reason
25:55why I bought my sister a car.
25:57>> Okay, that I can see that. I can see
25:58that being the case that I
26:00>> This is where I think it's around about
26:02here is where the reaction is. And as
26:03you can see, it's it's not too bad
26:05around about here like and and normally
26:07and normally like at a reaction the
26:09retention just goes goes straight down
26:11because you know people have got the
26:12reaction now like they they've got what
26:14they've came for. They saw the reaction.
26:16If it drags on any longer then people
26:18just sort of get bored. I also surprised
26:21her with like a bunch of different
26:24little things. So like I got her a new
26:26phone, I got her like I built her a
26:28gaming room as well. And then the the
26:30final one was like I got her a car. Uh,
26:32and then there was also like a B plot
26:34point which was like I've never gotten a
26:36hug like a proper proper hug from my
26:38sister before. So like hopefully this
26:41car does that like gets me that hug. And
26:44you'll notice as soon as I get the hug
26:46uh which is around about like here
26:48>> their attention falls off. So once once
26:51people once people get what they come
26:54for in a video they click off. So that
26:57is the one piece of advice is that I
26:59could give everyone is that once people
27:01get what they get what they came for
27:03they click off. So try and have like as
27:04many additional goals at the end if you
27:07want people to stay for longer and
27:08longer because you know initially the
27:10video was about the room renovation and
27:12once and once they saw it yeah people
27:13still stayed on because there was
27:14something else to look forward to.
27:16>> So you bought her a car not out of love
27:17but out of retention.
27:19>> Out of retention. I also I also know
27:21that she wanted like she had a terrible
27:23car so I was like I could borrow a car
27:26and you know it would be really it would
27:29be also really good for retention. I
27:30mean I I want to this is the way I want
27:32to use my channel is like I want to I
27:34want to do some fun things for my family
27:36that they they would have like never got
27:37to experience and just do it through the
27:40love of like making videos. Like I love
27:42making videos and I I really want to
27:44just like give my family like
27:46experiences they've never had before and
27:48just make them happy because like I said
27:49we didn't have a lot like too much
27:51growing up. Yeah. Doing this sort of
27:52stuff really this really fulfills me
27:55just like doing the especially the room
Thumbnail tricks
27:57builds
27:57>> that thumbnail and a lot of your
27:59thumbnail has that like glow effect or
28:02something on your thumbnails. What what
28:04do you do exactly?
28:05>> A lot of a lot of it is just lights. I
28:07call them like enhanced raws. like you
28:09take a raw photo and then like you just
28:11like I got I have a guy who like helps
28:13me with like the 3D modeling of stuff.
28:15Do a lot of the thumbnails myself, but I
28:17have a guy who like who helps me with
28:19like the 3D modeling and the lighting
28:21elements just because I'm not too great
28:23at that stuff. But like making it pop
28:26is, you know, something I can do really
28:28well. But a lot of it is just like
28:30taking really good raw photos. If you
28:31can take a really good raw photo, you
28:33can pretty much like it's so much easier
28:36to get like a a good thumbnail out of
28:38just like a really good raw. So like,
28:41okay, here's another thing that I did,
28:42right, which is a bit sneaky, but like
28:45people don't care. U so like the the I
28:47built my sister's dream um like room
28:50thumbnail. You you'll notice that like
28:52the setup is in the room. In the initial
28:54bedroom, there's no gaming setup. It's a
28:56completely separate room. But like in
28:59the thumbnail, the way I like I I uh
29:02positioned and like everything out was
29:04to have all leading lines going to the
29:06middle of the thumbnail. The bed points
29:07to the middle. The screens on the on the
29:09right go into the middle. And the way I
29:11did that was I literally like that setup
29:13is real. It's not fake. I I just the the
29:15room the gaming room that I built for
29:17her. I took the desk out and I moved it
29:20into the bedroom to get that thumbnail.
29:23And not one comment has has said
29:24anything about like, "Oh, the
29:25thumbnail's fake." I mean, because it
29:27isn't. Like, I in the video I still
29:28built her an entire gaming room. Like,
29:30it's just that on the thumbnail it just
29:32looks so much more enticing if like the
29:34way I sort of framed it. Like, do you
29:36get what I mean? Like,
29:37>> it's a question I actually had like
29:39overall on the channel. It's actually
29:40crazy that you do your own thumbnails
29:41cuz in the last year you've gotten like
29:43way better or like I in my opinion like
29:46they look way better. Like they they're
29:48way more interesting. Like obviously
29:50like the plane seat one's really good.
29:51Even though I tried gaming capsule
29:53hotels like that's another really good
29:54one compared to just a year ago. Like
29:56I'd love to know like you know if
29:58there's something that was kind of like
29:59a catalyst for making those better
30:00thumbnails or again it's just like you
30:02know incremental improvements like 1%
30:04every time or if there was a shift
30:06you're like you know kind of how you're
30:07talking about the Mario Juice shift in
30:08terms of retention. There was like oh
30:10man this is how I took my thumbnails to
30:12the next level. Like I'd love to know
30:13how that kind of transpired.
30:14>> Yeah. So, a lot of it is just like
30:16looking at like other thumbnails that
30:18work that like and and and now I'm
30:20getting like new ideas for like
30:22inspiration. Um, so like the POV ones
30:25that actually that was actually
30:26something I just did accidentally on my
30:28own, but I know that POV is like another
30:30like whole genre of thumbnails, but like
30:32I kind of I did that on my capsule um
30:36pod hotels thumbnail. I accidentally
30:38just I just took that in the in the
30:39capsule pod that I was in and it just
30:41did so well. like the the the A2B that
30:45test I did. That video stunk at first.
30:47Like it was just a it was a video. It
30:49was a thumbnail of me just hanging out
30:51the capture pod and it was kind of
30:52really hard to like see what it was. But
30:54I did a POV and the next day it I swear
30:58down it went from like a nine to a one
31:00out of 10. Like that's how crazy the
31:03change was. Like within like I think it
31:05was within like within like one to two
31:06days that's how crazy the change of the
31:08thumbnail was. So, initially started off
31:10really bad. Or maybe it picked up over
31:13Yeah, I think it picked up around about
31:15like Let me go on to the first 24 hours.
31:17>> It It didn't do as well as I wanted to
31:19within like the first like five hours.
Reviving Dead Videos
31:22>> Okay. So, I uploaded it on December the
31:247th. Let me go on to the custom date. Uh
31:26that's where I can really show you the
31:27graph if I go on like the first seven
31:29days. So, like it did like Yeah, it was
31:32okay. Okay, it might have been the
31:32second day which I changed the
31:33thumbnail, but like it just went crazy.
31:37Like um
31:38>> just that one change like it made it
31:40just blow up. And that was from doing
31:42the POV. I I I sort of just combined
31:45ideas together. So I was like, okay, I
31:47remember that taking myself out the
31:49thumbnail works.
31:52>> Of course, that's why the POV version
31:54did better where my face is not in it.
31:56But also, I am just focusing I am
31:58focusing on the actual concept of the
31:59video itself. that that's what I try and
32:01do now. Like if if I go on to my entire
32:03channel, you'll notice that hardly any
32:08uh hardly any of the thumbnails have my
32:10face in. Like out of these whole 16
32:12here,
32:13>> there's one
32:14>> that has my face in. Like literally,
32:16well, I mean, obviously these do, but
32:18like that's they're more for reference.
32:20Like, you know, they're just to show the
32:22size of something. They're here to show
32:23like and this one it's to show the size
32:25of the bed or to show just the scale of
32:27things. But um yeah, mostly I don't put
32:30myself in there. And then the the room
32:32transformation ones are pretty easy.
32:33They're just enhanced versions of the
32:35room. So like obviously I get like um I
32:37just take a raw photo of the room before
32:39and after. And then my thumbnail guy
32:41just does like a few more like enhanced
32:43models of uh stuff. So, uh, for example,
32:47just things like making the windows
32:49nicer, like, uh, the stuff we put on the
32:52shelf just make it a bit more, uh, a bit
32:54more bold and a bit more like, yeah,
32:56it's it's little things, but like we
32:58work together really well. And there's
33:01honestly thumbnails is I love I just
33:03love making thumbnails. Thumbnails is
33:04probably one of my most favorite things
33:05to do on YouTube. I love it.
33:07>> I'm curious while talking about
33:09thumbnails, if you look at the one of 10
33:10podcasts, what what do you think we
33:12should do for thumbnails? You know, I'm
33:14terrible on the spot. I like I like the
33:16one with Hang Time. I love the one with
33:18Hang Time. That one
33:19>> That's where you commented.
33:21>> Yeah, I I now I watch all these, but
33:23like Okay, I know I know it looks like
33:25some of these I haven't been watching,
33:26but that's just me skipping for uh for
33:28the interview questions. I That was when
33:30I was researching, but like I like the
33:32ones where you show the person. And I
33:34think some of these ones, like the Jenny
33:36Hoya one, I can't even like see like
33:39hardly any of that text there. Small
33:41text is bad. I normally find I would
33:44normally just like I really like the
33:45hangtime one because it's like it's kind
33:47of like what I do which is like a before
33:49and after. I think transformation ones
33:50are really good. Going from like nothing
33:52to something that really intrigues
33:54people like oh how you know how did they
33:56go from this to this? That that's always
33:58so intriguing. So I'd say more half and
34:00half honestly.
34:01>> Actually our most viewed video is half
34:02and half. So you may have a point.
34:04>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That Yeah. Yeah. I'd
34:06say more half and half, guys, because I
34:09mean I mean I think if you're if you're
34:11doing someone like uh I don't know if if
34:14you're doing a podcast where it's
34:15focusing on just just viral tips like uh
34:19I think I watched the Jenny Hoyers one
34:20where she's telling about shorts and
34:22stuff. But then again, maybe you do a
34:24half and half like going from, you know,
34:26a short with zero views and a short with
34:28a billion views.
34:30>> I don't know. I I think half and halfs
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35:27about shorts um so you've got a few uh
Shorts that feed longform
35:30like your most viewed video is uh 18
35:33million views. Curious what's what's
35:35your thoughts on shorts?
35:37>> A lot of it there's a lot of benefits.
35:38There's so many. There's like the
35:40subscriber growth that like the amount
35:42of people you can just hit with a short
35:43if you do if you do them right. But
35:45mostly, I'd say the biggest reason is
35:47just trying to get that subscriber count
35:48up to and my content out to more people
35:51and also just to make content that like
35:53I would never make for a long form.
35:56>> Uh do you think it converts well for you
35:58the shorts to long?
35:59>> Yeah. Yeah, honestly they do. Um like
36:01now like now they do like now that I'm
36:03actually putting time into shorts like
36:04they like yeah I've I look at the um I'm
36:08a big uh I study like graphs so much and
36:12uh like where people are coming from and
36:14shorts aren't that bad. Like um I feel
36:16like if you're just a shorts channel
36:18it's terrible. Don't ever like I've seen
36:21shorts channels that are like they've
36:22got 22 mil and they can't pull like a
36:24100k. But like I think if you do have a
36:27good like long form and you pair that
36:30with a good short form that that's when
36:31they start connecting like especially if
36:33your short form is directly uh linked to
36:37your long form like if you're in the
36:39same genre like if I'm making I don't
36:42know trampoline content like long form
36:44and it's doing pretty well. I'm gonna do
36:46trampoline short form content instead of
36:49like I don't know baking like or just
36:52like just random stuff like it really
36:54helps if you just link the two together
36:55because that's when they normally
36:56convert the most.
36:57>> What's an advice you would say to for
37:00shorts to blow up?
37:01>> Okay, here's here's a bit of crazy
37:03advice. Sometimes your short isn't bad.
37:05Sometimes you just haven't got a shorts
37:07audience yet. Let me explain it. Right.
37:09So, I've uploaded like when I was like
37:11experimenting with shorts, I've uploaded
37:13shorts before that just flopped. They
37:16did like uh well flopping for me. Like
37:20if I want to do like a million views a
37:22short and like I'd post some and they'd
37:24they'd do like 20k like 20k um views
37:28which isn't great for like for what for
37:30how I'd want my shorts to do. But here's
37:33the thing. Once I started I I posted one
37:36short which was like dying gay
37:37PlayStation controller with like a smoke
37:40bomb and that did really well. Once I
37:43uploaded that, every single short I did
37:45did really well no matter what it no
37:47matter what it was really. And then I
37:50started re-uploading some of the shorts
37:52that did like previously not as well
37:55like the one that did 20k and now that
37:57one is on half a million. It's the exact
37:59same video but maybe I just didn't have
38:01a shorts audience. And obviously shorts
38:03audience are a lot different to long
38:04form uh viewers. Um so like sometimes
38:07they probably won't watch as long or
38:09maybe they just they don't like maybe
38:11long form viewers don't like short form
38:13content so they'll just skip it. One
38:16thing that I have been doing is I
38:17haven't been publishing like when you
38:20upload a video you can like choose
38:22whether or not to have it published to
38:24your subscribers. I actually turn I
38:26actually turned that off. Uh, so it it
38:28would just hit the shorts algorithm
38:30rather than like uh it be like the
38:33analytics be impacted by my actual
38:35viewers. That's one thing you can do.
38:37Like if you turn off the little like uh
38:40notification um to have your shorts go
38:43out to your like long form viewers,
38:44that's a game changer.
38:46>> What's one piece of advice you'd give
38:48for someone one thing to grow from zero
Stair-step niching
38:49to 1.5 million subscribers? Like what
38:52what do you think made it happen for
38:54you? If I was to like take like any
38:58niche like like like a person who
39:01literally has zero subscribers and I do
39:04this a few I've done this a few times
39:05like I've I've mentored a few people who
39:07are like followed this exact process
39:09which I'm about to tell you and they're
39:10like now starting to like think about
39:12becoming full-time creators. They're not
39:14at 1.5 mill yet, but they they'll get
39:16there. I I don't know what to call this
39:18process, but like let's say let's give
39:21me a random niche, right? Let's say I
39:22make cupcake content. Like I I know a
39:24lot about making cupcake contents, but I
39:26want to be the next Nick D. Giovani,
39:28right? I want to make food content,
39:29right? First of all, if you're you need
39:31to actually do make good videos. Uh you
39:35actually need to make good videos uh
39:36from the get-go. Like if you if you're
39:38making bad videos, then like it's going
39:40to be hard for people to stick around
39:42because like YouTube people think
39:44YouTube's free. Like it's not free.
39:46People pay with their time. People don't
39:48want to like pay with their time to
39:50watch a bad video. So, first of all, you
39:51actually kind of need to make all right
39:53videos that have some value to people.
39:54Always give value to people, right?
39:56Always, always, always give value to the
39:59audience. Teach them something,
40:00entertain them. You've got to give
40:01value. Then find a niche, right? If I
40:04want to get into food, I'd pick a
40:06subniche of food, which is like
40:07desserts. But then I'd go a step further
40:10and I'd pick a subniche of desserts. So,
40:12I'd pick cakes. And then I'd pick a
40:14subniche of cakes, which is cupcakes.
40:16and they would focus, hyperfocus on that
40:19tiny niche, right, which is now
40:21cupcakes. I am the cupcake guy and I'm
40:23going to make the best cupcake content
40:26on the internet. Once I do that and I
40:28get my little cupcake audience,
40:29obviously it's way easier to like get a
40:32a view like a bunch of viewership on a
40:36really really niche audience. You'd
40:37think it wouldn't be, but like it
40:38actually is because like there's not
40:40that many. Most people are making
40:41content on really really broad uh like
40:44just ideas. So, if you can just make
40:46really good content on an extremely
40:48niche subject, whether it be like a game
40:51or just like you, like I said, like
40:52something like cupcakes, that's what you
40:55want to do for your first like 5 to
40:5710,000 subscribers. Once you get to that
41:00first 5 to 10,000 subscribers, you want
41:02to broaden out a bit right now. And you
41:04want to do something that is a bit
41:05broader, but but something that your
41:07audience would still be interested in.
41:09So, I would then start making videos
41:12about cakes because obviously my cupcake
41:14audience probably likes cakes, but cakes
41:16are a lot more broader. I could probably
41:17get a way more uh like maybe I'm going
41:20from like 10,000 views of a cupcake
41:22video to now I could be going to a
41:24100,000 views for a cake video, right?
41:26The the core audience would still be
41:29interested in this new broader range of
41:32content, but I'm also attracting a whole
41:34new range of people. Then, I'm gonna
41:37still grind. I'm going to make the best
41:39cake channel uh uh on YouTube. And once
41:41I've uh I'm going to make the best cake
41:44content on YouTube. And once I've done
41:45that, once I've got to about 100,000
41:47subscribers, then I'm going to move up
41:49one and go and start making uh a bunch
41:52more content on like desserts, right?
41:54Because that's like another like a group
41:56of people who my core audience who likes
41:58cakes. People who like cakes probably
42:00like desserts, but obviously I'm
42:02bringing in a whole new genre of people
42:04now. And then you just keep doing that
42:07until eventually, you know, you get onto
42:09another niche and another niche and a
42:11like until you just get really broad.
42:12And it's the exact same way I went from
42:15making like videos about gaming setups
42:17to planes. Like I basically hyper
42:20hyperfocused because I wanted to do room
42:22renovations originally because that's
42:24like what me and Frenchie did when like
42:26I was working for him. It's what I've
42:27always done. I've like really early in
42:30my days like doing YouTube, I I used to
42:32love setup videos and stuff. So, I
42:33wanted to do something in that niche,
42:34but I just literally went, "Okay, I want
42:36to do something in tech and gaming and
42:37room renovations. What's a subniche of
42:39that?" A gaming room too broad gaming
42:43setup. Still too bored. How about if I
42:45make videos on really cheap gaming
42:48setups or getting stuff for free? So,
42:49that was my micron. That was that was
42:51like my cupcake, right?
42:53>> And then I went from free gaming setups
42:56to just gaming setup content. Then I
42:58went from like gaming setup to gaming
43:00room. And then I went from like gaming
43:02room to like bedroom because everyone
43:05has a bedroom but not everyone has a
43:06gaming room. But then there's other
43:08things that you can get into. So I did
43:10like a travel video where I went
43:12obviously I was doing videos on gaming
43:13setups. So I did like uh a gaming like I
43:17went to like an internet cafe in Korea
43:19and obviously that that brought in a
43:22whole new travel audience but also my
43:24gaming setup audience liked it. So, I'm
43:26bringing in this travel audience now and
43:28I'm I'm like, "Okay, well, I've got
43:30travel people now and I've got people
43:31like gaming. What can I do to combine
43:33the two?" And it's like, "Oh, gaming
43:35hotel." And obviously, there's more
43:37people who know about hotels than
43:40internet cafe. So, that brought in
43:41another another audience. So, now I've
43:43got like a travel audience and like a
43:45gaming audience. And obviously, the next
43:47thing to do from there was gaming on a
43:49plane. And then that's how you go from
43:52basically getting like a really really
43:54micro niche to making like 30 mil view
43:57content. That's the exact process I
44:00would do. Pick a micro niche and just
44:02expand upon it like until and and and
44:05until you're at like a really really
44:07broad uh like genre of content.
44:09>> That was a clear explanation, clear step
44:12by step and you've proven it with your
44:15own channel. So guys,
44:17>> yeah, I do it with other channels as
44:18well. Like I have a friend Adam who's
44:20like currently making like he wants to
44:21make gaming content but like I was like
44:24you can't just make gaming content. Pick
44:26a game. Pick like a like a a system. And
44:30he was like well I really like Nintendo.
44:32I was like right pick the Switch. You're
44:35only going to make Switch content from
44:36now on. And now he he does that and now
44:39he's he's gone from something to near
44:42he'll be honestly doing YouTube
44:44full-time soon. Like ju just from that
44:47method just from like I I guess it's
44:48called stairstepping like I don't know
44:51that's a cra that's that's literally the
44:52method I would I would use if I started
44:54YouTube like with nothing tomorrow like
44:57if I had to go grow a channel from
44:58nothing to something exact method
45:00>> the dream possible guys
45:01>> anyone can do YouTube don't let anyone
45:03tell you that you can't do YouTube it's
45:04it's 100% possible
What's next
45:06>> imagine YouTube as a stock market and
45:08channels and individual stocks what
45:10channel would you invest in and why
45:12>> I thought about this answer there's so
45:14many good channels that I like, but like
45:16based on like how good of a return I'm
45:18going to get or just whose content I
45:20like the most.
45:21>> Probably I would go with return because
45:22it's way more interesting that way.
45:24>> Free. Okay. Well, first of all, I know
45:27this is a boring answer. I'm backing
45:28myself if I'm allowed to do that.
45:30>> Yeah, you can do that.
45:30>> Like I genuinely think I I yours
45:34>> I want to be one of the biggest channels
45:35in the like in the UK at some point.
45:38Like I I want to go crazy. So I back
45:40myself.
45:41>> You're definitely hitting 10 mil and
45:42you're coming back here.
45:43>> I'd love to hit 10 mil. Honestly, that's
45:45that's hitting a mill was a dream, but
45:4610 is crazy. But I I I fully believe I
45:49can do it. Second channel I think has
45:52crazy like 100 mil potential gain and
45:55he's got like 10 mil right now is a guy
45:57called Foot Crunch. He makes like uh
45:59football content or soccer content for
46:02uh for us viewers. Then let's pick a
46:04person whose just channel I like. I just
46:07like Ryan Treyan's videos. I think he's
46:08got great potential. But then there's so
46:10many other people who I love content
46:11like whose channel I love. like it's so
46:14hard. But yeah, I'm going to say Ryan or
46:17Yeah, there's so many. But I'd say Ryan
46:19Trey. I I really love his content.
46:21>> What is your next like broader way to
46:24get people in? Because you have the
46:26personality.
46:27>> I don't know. I don't think I I have too
46:29much personality. I like I I'm trying to
46:31keep it like I don't know. I don't think
46:34I've ever had too much of a personality,
46:35but if you think that that's great. Um,
46:38but mostly I think my ideas I'm trying
46:40to just think of new concepts that are
46:42like that can be merged with gaming. I
46:45think honestly for example I I don't
46:47know like Ryan Treyan did uh I tried
46:50like every train seat. I'd probably I'm
46:52thinking about doing that at some point
46:54because it basically will be a sequel to
46:56the the uh the plane video, but like
46:58again I'll try and make it my own thing
46:59and put my spin on it which will be a
47:01for it'll be like a video for gamers.
47:03But there's just so many concepts I
47:04could do. I would love to buy a house,
47:07like a really old house, and renovate it
47:09to like like a make it a crazy house.
47:12I've got some
47:12>> That is broader. That is broader. You
47:14should
47:15>> Yeah, that's that's a lot of So, I'm
47:17thinking about like doing like a like uh
47:19this is a video coming out for the
47:20future. I've got like a bunch of Call of
47:22Duty players and I've put them in
47:24challenges against uh the military.
47:26>> Oh, okay.
47:27>> So, that's like Yeah. So, like maybe
47:29just combining like uh tech and gaming
47:32with the real world. I think that's how
47:33I'll like broaden out a bit more is I'll
47:36just go into like the sort of tech space
47:37because right now I'm in the sort of
47:39gaming genre and travel. I'd love to do
47:42some more tech stuff because that's like
47:44really really niche then. But I don't
47:46know. I I just want to make videos that
47:47like my mom could watch and also like my
47:50core audience could watch. They're like
47:51my two people who I tried to hit because
47:53then everyone can watch them and and
47:54hopefully enjoy them.
47:56>> Well, Dantic, Daniel, thanks for coming
47:58on the one of 10 pod. I I've wanted to
48:01share all this information for such a
48:02long time to just well I would have
48:04killed for a lot of this information
48:06like you know while having a small
48:08channel thank you so much for uh for
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