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0:00Hey.
0:00>> Uh, all right. Big smiles and three,
0:03two,
0:05one.
0:08Happy Friday, everybody. Time for
0:10another quick win collective mastermind.
0:12Ooh, we got a good one for you today.
0:13I'm excited for everybody to be with us.
0:15We're actually going to cover one of the
0:16most important topics that I know of
0:19that gives the ability for you to
0:21understand
0:23how do you prepare and also how do you
0:25present a buyer presentation that shows
0:27value to those prospective buyers in a
0:30way that absolutely locks them in as a
0:32customer for life. Listen, as we get
0:34started, as we do every single week,
0:36drop down in uh the chat, if you will,
0:39where you're coming in from, so we can
0:40see everybody that's there. Uh, got some
0:43amazing folks with us today. Obviously,
0:45Andrew Undem will be here to present his
0:47presentation, which is the best that I
0:48have seen, by the way, um on on this
0:51process. And also, Chris has got some
0:53great market stats. He's going to give
0:54us uh Chris Kelly joining us, as always.
0:56I see New Hampshire, Chicago,
0:58Pennsylvania, Atlanta. Uh, Fargo, North
1:01Dakota, St. Augustine, Kansas City. All
1:05over the country coming in. All right,
1:07people are still coming in, so we'll
1:08give them just a minute more. But, uh
1:11happy Friday, everybody. Um a lot of
1:12good stuff happening. I see Connecticut,
1:15uh Washington, D.C., Utah.
1:17Um Fairfax, Virginia. Coming in close up
1:20there, Dallas.
1:22Baton Rouge. Listen, by the way, I was
1:25in Shreveport yesterday and have a
1:28bellyful, I guess you could say, as we
1:30say down here, of um crawfish, or
1:33mudbugs, or however you want to say it.
1:35We had a crawfish boil, and um it was
1:37tremendous, uh to say the least. So,
1:39thanks to BHHS United down there, um uh
1:43some of Allied. Um it was great to be
1:45with them. And uh so, all right. Uh
1:47let's go ahead, as people are going to
1:48continue to come in. I'll
1:50I'll go ahead and uh get us started. If
1:53you don't mind, Sam, thank you. Savage,
1:56as always, thank you for making [snorts]
1:58us look good. And uh Chris, I'd love to
2:00bring Chris forward if you don't mind,
2:02Sam. Chris Kelly, president CEO uh for
2:05HomeServices of America. Chris, a lot of
2:08details of things happening out there
2:10economically. A lot of things I love the
2:12way that you take some time to really
2:14kind of understand the psychology and
2:17also what's really happening and give us
2:19those visuals. I know we're going to
2:20have these. I don't know if you've had a
2:21chance to share those with Sam, but if
2:23not after you get done we can share it.
2:25Um we'll have those to be able to share,
2:26but um what are you seeing out there,
2:28Chris? What are you seeing right now?
2:30And what are some of the things that you
2:31kind of been looking into right now?
2:33>> Yeah, well well first of all, I think
2:34you need to start like your own food
2:35show. As you're traveling on the road,
2:37you always have these great food
2:38stories. And so you need to like create
2:39a web series about it. So like in Kansas
2:42City when you had barbecue at the
2:43airport on the way out, I want Did you
2:44have crawfish at the airport on the way
2:45out of Shreveport as well?
2:47>> I did I did not. And And let me let me
2:50just say this. I had plenty before
2:52there. And I had a white shirt on and I
2:54felt so I felt like a pro. I ate I ate 3
2:57lb of crawfish without getting any on. I
3:00mean I feel like you know, I was like
3:01this ain't no hobby. I mean I just This
3:03is what I do, you know? So literally.
3:05So.
3:05>> Yeah, you didn't grow up where you did
3:06and not know how to do that, right? So
3:08that's awesome.
3:08>> Exactly right. That's exactly right.
3:10>> And And if I've ever been second fiddle,
3:12today is the day. So I won't take long
3:14cuz I want you to get to Andrew because
3:17this guy's really amazing and I've had
3:19the opportunity to get to know Andrew
3:20over the years. And every time I hear
3:22him speak,
3:23I am more and more impressed and I want
3:25more and more agents to hear from him.
3:27So I'm so glad he's joining you today
3:29and have the opportunity for all of you
3:31guys to to get some insights from him.
3:32And you know, this is the cool thing
3:34about I think our network and then
3:35everyone who joins the mastermind, it's
3:37not that scarcity mentality. Like
3:39there's some other industries where
3:40someone who's as successful as Andrew,
3:42they're not going to come on a
3:42mastermind in a webinar with this many
3:44people and share everything they know
3:46and what they do cuz there'd be a fear
3:48base. Like oh my gosh, what if someone
3:49out goes out and does this. Andrew's
3:51coming on saying I hope everyone goes
3:52out and does this, right?" Like, that's
3:54the mentality of truly successful
3:55people. So, super excited that he's on
3:57today and that all of you guys have
3:59tuned in to uh to to hear from him and
4:01and share some great ideas. So, yeah,
4:03Jimmy, you had mentioned to you I I I
4:04kind of been playing around with some
4:06data and I'm just kind of curious, you
4:07know, that I that I wanted to kind of
4:09share with everybody just to visualize
4:10kind of what's going on. And I've shared
4:11this one before.
4:13Um what we're looking at here is that
4:14blue line is the 10-year Treasury. The
4:17orange line above is essentially the
4:2030-year fixed mortgage. And we already
4:21know these two things they move somewhat
4:23in unison to one another, right? And
4:25then that red dotted line there is when
4:28we saw the conflict start in the Middle
4:29East. And you could see we were trending
4:31downward on both the 10-year and the
4:3330-year mortgage. The conflict started,
4:35both of those things started going up.
4:37Ceasefire gets announced, that's that
4:38second dotted line. You can see start
4:40start things to start coming down a
4:41little bit. And then we've kind of
4:42plateaued a little bit. But I wanted to
4:44do also is to overlay the green line
4:46with this now, which is mortgage
4:48applications, right? So, we can see
4:50like, you know, mortgage rates go up,
4:51you know, what happens. But this shows
4:53you the exact correlation between
4:54mortgage applications and then that
4:5630-year rate and then what's also
4:58happening, you know, with the 10-year.
4:59And so, what you can see is a couple
5:01things become very apparent, right? So,
5:03as that 30-year rate started going up,
5:05you can see the direct correlation of
5:07the mortgage applications coming down
5:09fairly steeply and almost immediately,
5:11right? And then the next one that you
5:13can see, too, is that as rates started
5:15to come down after the ceasefire gets
5:16announced and stuff, you could see
5:18applications start to tick up. And then
5:19both of those lines have kind of
5:21plateaued a little bit, you know,
5:22improvement there. So,
5:24my point of showing this to everybody is
5:25that, you know, we have some what's what
5:27I would call artificial, not meaning
5:29that they're not real, meaning these
5:31aren't true macro, you know, underlying
5:34problems with the housing market. When
5:35we went through the Great Recession,
5:37there was underlying issues that were
5:39the cause of the housing problem. What
5:41we're seeing now is some of the
5:42curtailed demand is external pressures,
5:45right? It's not a fundamental problem
5:46with housing or pricing or anything like
5:48that despite some of the affordability
5:50challenges that we have. And then the
5:51other thing I wanted to overlay and show
5:54you guys is this. And this one looks a
5:55little messy, but all we're looking at
5:56here is again, what we're looking at is
5:58mortgage applications in the green and
6:00then the orange line is gas prices. And
6:03what we actually see is there is a
6:05correlation between when we see spikes
6:07in gas prices, we see mortgage
6:09applications come down. Not in every
6:11price point, if we really wanted to get
6:12granular, we could start kind of showing
6:14different price point levels here that
6:16what happens. Um typically what you
6:18would see is obviously larger cash
6:19buyers, higher price points, they're not
6:21influenced by gas prices. What they
6:23would be influenced by is if you start
6:24seeing dramatic drops in the stock
6:26market and people feel like they're
6:28losing money on paper, that's when you
6:29sometimes see a drop in that. But if you
6:31look at the average price point, you can
6:32see how sensitive consumers are to their
6:35wallet and gas prices are one of the
6:37most immediate effects. And so, it's not
6:39just gas prices, when gas prices go up,
6:41the cost of goods go up, things at the
6:43grocery store go up. So, we're just
6:44using gas prices as an example, but what
6:46you can see here is again, as gas prices
6:49started going up, right? From here, you
6:52saw mortgage applications started going
6:53down, right? I mean
6:55and it's always that delayed effect a
6:56little bit, too, right? Is what you see.
6:58And then at the very far right end of
7:00this chart, you can see as we started
7:01seeing gas go back up again, we also
7:03started seeing, you know, mortgage
7:04applications dip a little bit. So, it's
7:06just the rate it's just the sensitivity
7:08that the consumers have to the things
7:10going outside of their wallet in the
7:12immediate time frame when we see these
7:13kind of conflicts playing out. Um when
7:16you look at residential inventory across
7:18the country, you can see we are all
7:19trending at the top red line is the
7:21national number there. You can see the
7:23historical lows that we hit during the
7:24pandemic. Everything's trending up in
7:26the right direction, but if you only
7:27look at one year back and people go, "Oh
7:29my gosh, inventory has spiked so much
7:31over the last year." Just for some
7:33perspective, this is going back to, you
7:34know, 2005.
7:37And you can see how much inventory we
7:38had in 2008 and nine. Another big red
7:41flag everyone should have seen during
7:42the recession, which was we had rising
7:44prices and rising inventory at the same
7:46time. So, you know, that dotted line
7:47horizontal would be an average what we
7:50would normally expect to see in a
7:51normalized market. So, we still have a
7:52ways to go to get back to that. So, when
7:54people start talking about price
7:55crashes, it's really hard to have a
7:57price crash when we're not even back to
7:59our average normal to uh in inventory at
8:01that point. And then looking at price
8:03changes, the left bar it on each of
8:05these is 24 to 25, and then we're
8:08looking at 25 to 26 on the right bar of
8:10each one of these columns. And what
8:11we'll see is that we're just seeing much
8:13more moderate price gains this year
8:15versus last, and even last year was more
8:17normalized. This is actually a positive
8:19thing, right? As much as everyone loved,
8:21you know, having their house act like a
8:22meme stock, you know, during, you know,
8:242020 and 21, like everyone owned
8:26GameStop as their house, that that's not
8:28healthy. That's We all paid a price for
8:30that. What we want to see is housing to
8:31be very boring and predictable,
8:33single-digit type price appreciation.
8:35So, we're starting to see that kind of
8:36normalize out. It's a really positive
8:38thing when you think about affordability
8:39challenges and stuff. And then you can
8:41see that median home sales price, it is
8:43starting to plateau a little bit, but
8:44we've still gone up, and you can see it
8:46by region. 58%, 46, 38. So, when you
8:49hear, "Hey, prices have dropped in this
8:50particular market by 5% year-over-year,"
8:53it's not doomsday, right? It's still up
8:5540% in the last 5 years. And so,
8:57everything's relative on when someone
8:59wants to cut off the chart and stuff.
9:00And then looking at annualized home
9:02sales, again, what we're seeing is that
9:04this year was shaping up, at least in
9:05the beginning, to be a little bit better
9:07than what we had last year, but those
9:09those conflicts that created these
9:10artificial pressures on on housing have
9:12kind of brought that demand back down,
9:14you know, NAR cut from 14% increase in
9:16existing home sales down to 4%. And so,
9:19now we're kind of seeing, you know, 26
9:20is right now looking very similar to 25.
9:23As things improve, you know, if we start
9:25seeing, you know, the price of goods via
9:27gas are coming down, the conflict is
9:29truly resolved, um and that kind of is
9:31taken off the table, and oil comes back
9:33down, and and the 10-year can start
9:35easing a little bit, too, we'll see that
9:3630-year drop. We We might start seeing
9:38kind of things resume to where the year
9:40was starting off and shaping out to be.
9:41But all things to keep in mind. But it's
9:43just good for all of us to know that the
9:45realities of what's going on so that
9:46when we're having conversations with
9:48consumers and they're telling us what
9:50their concerns are about whether they're
9:51getting in the market or why they're not
9:53getting in the market, we have some real
9:54data behind it to kind of have those
9:56conversations.
9:57>> Yeah, this is such good stuff. Hey, I'd
9:59love to bring Andrew in here real quick
10:00with the with Chris as well. Um I don't
10:03know about you, Andrew, but I have never
10:05seen anybody do the correlation between
10:07mortgage applications and gas prices,
10:10um which is such a great topic right now
10:12for people to be sharing. I mean, I
10:14would suggest taking what that that
10:17particular slide and showing that
10:18because I think it creates an
10:20opportunity for people to have a
10:21conversation right now in a preparation
10:24for what we all anticipate at some
10:26point. I mean, look, you don't have
10:27conflict forever. And so when this does
10:29and we see the gas prices normalize and
10:31we see oil prices normalize, it's going
10:33to create a a a rush as we can see from
10:36that chart and those applications.
10:38Andrew, anything you want to add to that
10:40also or ask ask Chris on any of this?
10:42>> Well,
10:43>> [clears throat]
10:43>> I love having this data for the main
10:45reason of I downloaded this slide. Sam's
10:47been nice enough to post it in the group
10:48chat a couple times. I will be green
10:50screening those slides for one reason so
10:53I can sound smart to the people who
10:56follow me and who might be thinking
10:58about buying a home. On the gas prices,
11:00this is why you have to have a Tesla,
11:02okay?
11:03I've had a Tesla for 9 years, no gas, no
11:05oil changes, no nothing. It drives
11:06itself. I don't know what you guys are
11:08doing,
11:09but that is available to you.
11:11>> Yeah, is it? Is it?
11:13>> about taking excuses off the table. So
11:15when you have a buyer that says, "Hey, I
11:17don't I'm I'm concerned about gas
11:19prices." I'm like, "Hey, let's just go
11:20get you an electric car. We can remove
11:21that excuse, you know, from it and then
11:23we can go buy a house." So, yep.
11:26>> Problem solved. Easy. That's easy,
11:28right?
11:29>> The other piece of this is and this will
11:31always be happening. God, the news in
11:33this industry is just like crazy crazy
11:35crazy.
11:36Uh and Chris, you shared this when you
11:38spoke in Omaha at Vince's uh deal last
11:40year.
11:41It doesn't quite matter what's going on.
11:45What matters is how you react to it. I
11:47grew up My mom, who's brilliant, in our
11:51kitchen cupboard had a little slogan
11:52that she wrote in calligraphy that says,
11:54"Life is 10% what happens and 90% how I
11:57react to it."
11:58>> Mhm.
11:58>> That's one of the true I just live I've
12:00always lived by that. I don't care what
12:02the market's doing. I actually when it
12:03gets tough, I rejoice cuz if it's tough
12:06for me, I know it's going to be hard for
12:07you
12:08and I'm going to gobble.
12:10Okay, we'll talk a little bit about
12:11that, but that's what if you want to
12:13really attack the business,
12:14bring it on. And when it's good, it'll
12:16be we'll rake. And when it's [snorts]
12:18not good, I'll rake a little less, but
12:19I'm going to rake either way.
12:21>> Correct.
12:21>> Yeah. Hey, listen, Chris, the reason I
12:23want to bring Andrew on while you were
12:24still here, too, was is because after
12:25you talked that well on him, I wanted to
12:27make sure that his head would fit on the
12:28screen, you know, where um you're giving
12:30him all these props and it does. It's
12:32amazing.
12:32>> I meant every word of it. I the
12:34>> I know you did. I know you did. Yes, I
12:36know. Um listen, Chris, thanks for
12:37everything, man. I mean, look, Chris
12:39just gave you your task for the day. Um
12:41and you're going to see this and listen,
12:43go follow Andrew. If you want to see how
12:45this is done, I'll bet you Andrew has
12:47this done within the next hour to 2
12:49hours. If you want to see how to do it
12:51and model it, go follow Andrew, then
12:53model after what he's going to do and
12:55I'll promise you're going to see this
12:56some some good results with that. So,
12:57thanks, Chris. Appreciate it.
12:58>> Beth and Jay who commented in there,
13:00correct. Yeah, we don't want anyone
13:02financing a car while they're looking to
13:04buy a house. Not looking to derail it.
13:06Yeah, absolutely. Yep.
13:07>> Smart.
13:08>> All right. Thanks, Chris. Appreciate it.
13:10Appreciate it.
13:10>> Okay. Great. Have a great weekend.
13:13All right. So, let me let me introduce
13:15uh my buddy um
13:16because Andrew Undem and I have known
13:19each other now for a number of years and
13:21there are certain people that when you
13:23meet them, you just know this is a this
13:25is somebody that gets it. This is
13:27somebody that understands what it takes
13:29to provide value to clients and has the
13:33ability to communicate it in a way that
13:35is going to move people and help them
13:37make decisions that are in their best
13:39interest. So, I want to just say this.
13:41Andrew, tell everybody well, Sure Sales
13:43Group, I mean, I don't know how many
13:45transac- how many transactions are y'all
13:46trending towards this, you know, this
13:48past year, this coming year?
13:50What are you over I don't want to I
13:52don't want to mess that up. How many are
13:53y'all doing roughly on trans-
13:55>> transaction wise as a team? This year we
13:57should hit over 500 again, which will be
13:59a a high water mark in a market that's
14:01not as
14:03you know, frothy as we'd like, but we're
14:06pretty focused. We'll do a couple
14:07hundred million in sales and um
14:10we're having fun doing it. Again, we're
14:12here in Baltimore and the other thing
14:14I'm proud of, Jimmy, is we do all this.
14:15I have two and a half employees.
14:17And how do you have a half an employee?
14:19Cuz I got the mortgage company that I
14:21also own to pay for the other half.
14:23That's a sales job. We're going to talk
14:24about sales today. Everything's a sale.
14:26Everything's a We'll talk about
14:28everything sales.
14:29>> Yeah. Yeah. Look, um this is another one
14:32of those. If you're wanting to know how
14:33to how to run a team effectively, um
14:35talk to Raleigh. Um but no, I mean, yes,
14:38you can talk to Andrew, too, but um
14:39obviously that Raleigh does an amazing
14:41job. But let's get into the topic today
14:43because y'all, this is something when
14:45you leave this I have to tell you this.
14:46Andrew and I had this conversation a few
14:48years ago.
14:50It's had right at 100,000 views. It's
14:53probably the the conversation that I've
14:55had the most comments on. This was two,
14:58three years ago. Andrew, I know you
15:01because you sent it to me yesterday.
15:02We're both still getting comments on
15:04this
15:05and just about every week. And so, we're
15:07going to dive into exactly and we're
15:09going to show you the process on how you
15:11present this.
15:13But Andrew, I think a lot of times what
15:14happens is everybody gets they they miss
15:16the key critical parts of this. It's not
15:18just about the process, it's the
15:20preparation. And so, I'd love for you to
15:22kind of drop into that before we even
15:24get to the process, if you don't mind.
15:26>> Yeah, that I mean, that makes sense. We
15:28recorded a pretty good video in in the
15:31timing where it was the NAR lawsuit and
15:34oh my god, are buyers agents even going
15:36to exist? Are we ever going to get paid
15:38again? Oh my god.
15:40There's blood in the streets. Everyone's
15:42coming for everybody and the echo that
15:44we heard through the industry was we
15:47have to figure out how to showcase more
15:48value on the buy side if the decoupling
15:51of commissions is is coming down the
15:53pipe. And that's all we heard. You got
15:56to show more value. You got to show more
15:57value. No one was talking about how to
15:59show the value.
16:01>> Right.
16:01>> So, Jimmy and I took it upon ourselves
16:02say, well, here's how here's how I
16:04actually do show the value. We did that
16:06video. Sam will put the link in there. I
16:08think he just did.
16:10And as Jimmy noted, that's still
16:12climbing in views. Like, it was 10,000,
16:1420,000, 50,000. And it's very relevant.
16:18So,
16:19we're going to hit that again. In case
16:20you missed it, you can always do the the
16:21replay.
16:23But,
16:24over the the last couple years as I've
16:26been trying to help as many people as I
16:27can, including my own people,
16:30people they see a presentation, they see
16:32you articulate it properly. We'll give
16:34you some good lines. We'll give you some
16:35good structure. But, there's layers to
16:38this. And what I found is
16:41the real ability to pull this off, it
16:43lives a little upstream from just
16:46here's what to say and when to say it
16:47and how to say it.
16:49Because like Jimmy to your quote, like,
16:51you I can give you Tiger Woods' golf
16:53clubs, you're not going to hit them like
16:54Tiger. You can watch him swing it, too.
16:56You can even get a lesson.
16:57>> Right.
16:58>> It's just not going to happen.
16:59>> Right.
17:00>> So,
17:01I want to set the tone, which which is
17:03this. This has been my big thing
17:04recently and I knew it intuitively,
17:07instinctively my entire career. But, the
17:09most important skill any of us can have,
17:12by far, unquestioned, unequivocally is
17:16your ability to sell.
17:18And everybody says this. Steve Jobs
17:21famously said it. The only consultants I
17:23ever hire are the ones who can help me
17:24sell the computers. Everyone else are
17:26bozos.
17:27Mark Cuban says it. Everybody says it.
17:29And the thing is we don't really
17:30understand what that is. Our industry
17:34as a whole
17:36has almost no sales training.
17:40They'll teach you how not to get sued
17:42and here's how to do an offer and here's
17:43the contracts and here's
17:45how to be a realtor and here's how to
17:47open a lockbox and work your MLS and
17:49hang your brokerage. You got to be at a
17:51brokerage. And like that whole world.
17:53And they also teach you how to prospect.
17:56Get your friends and family and and bold
17:58and sweat hogs and and all that stuff.
18:01And then we have an infatuation
18:03with marketing and I love marketing. I'm
18:06going to copy Chris's stuff. That'll be
18:07a marketing activity.
18:10But we're not big on sales training and
18:11and the reason is this.
18:13The reason we get away with it the
18:15industry's gotten away with it forever
18:17regardless of lawsuit
18:20is because the consumer
18:23already wants the product.
18:27In other industry, I'm going to say that
18:29again. The consumers that we're dealing
18:31with, they want to buy it or they want
18:33to liquidate it. They already want it.
18:36So we our barrier for for
18:40our ability to sell doesn't have to be
18:42that high cuz the consumer already is
18:44creating that demand for us. In other
18:46industries that are high paying sales
18:49industries whether it's B2B,
18:51tech, um pharmaceutical stuff, medical
18:55device, there is an emphasis on sales
18:58training. There really isn't in our
19:00industry and and that's a big miss.
19:03And um that's the basis for this.
19:05And
19:06Naval Ravikant, if you don't follow him,
19:08not a real estate guy, he's kind of a
19:10business philosopher. He created
19:12AngelList.
19:14He was the founder of many, many
19:15companies. A brilliant guy.
19:17He said something that really struck me,
19:19which is the reason you're focusing on
19:22sales is because you failed at
19:24marketing.
19:26And the reason you're focused on
19:27marketing is because you failed at
19:29product.
19:31What he's saying there is
19:33if your product is really good, you
19:36don't need to worry about sales and
19:37marketing. So, you got to focus on your
19:38product.
19:40Now, you're saying, "Well, that doesn't
19:41make sense. I thought you said sales was
19:42important."
19:43In our industry, we are the product.
19:46You are the product.
19:49And we don't fully understand that
19:53because we think our job is we need to
19:55get eyeballs. We need to social media.
19:56We needed to do AI. We need to do what
19:58Jason Pantana says. We all we got to do
19:59the cannonball with Jimmy Mack, and I
20:01need to talk to my coach.
20:02You're the product. And if you get
20:04really good at what some of the things
20:05we're going to go over today,
20:07sales the
20:09everything's going to take care of
20:10itself because you're going to be
20:12referable. And you're going to be
20:14unconsciously competent, and you're
20:17going to be undeniable.
20:19But, we don't like to do that. We like
20:21to pretend that we're busy, and I got to
20:22get my marketing done, and I got to get
20:24this stuff done so more people will find
20:26out how mediocre I am
20:29because my product isn't that good, and
20:31we are the product. So,
20:34um I've broken all this stuff down. And
20:36again, we'll get to the buyer stuff. I
20:37promise you. I'll give you the lines.
20:39I'll give you the lingo. I'll show you
20:40how I do it. I'll draw it out on the
20:41timeline. It's all We already did it,
20:43and hundreds of thousands of people
20:45seem to uh think it's valuable, and we
20:47get all these great comments, and I'm
20:49happy for that.
20:51But, we need to break down
20:54what our job actually is. So, it if you
20:57define what what sales is to me, and
20:59there's a lot of definitions to it, it's
21:00this.
21:02Our job, and you might want to write
21:03this down, and and have this hold on to
21:06this one.
21:07Our job is to get people
21:10intellectually engaged
21:13on a future result that's good for them.
21:18>> Mhm.
21:19>> And then help them emotionally commit
21:22to take action to achieve that result.
21:27That's your job. That's your product.
21:29That's the key.
21:31Can you get people intellectually
21:32engaged?
21:34Okay, that that's a big piece. Can we
21:36get them intellectually engaged on a
21:38future result that's good for them? Hey
21:41guys, they want to buy a house or they
21:42want to move. Don't have to Don't have
21:44to overcomplicate it.
21:45Can you get them intellectually engaged
21:46on a future result that's good for them
21:49and then help them emotionally commit to
21:51take action to achieve the result?
21:53That's what our job is.
21:56And
21:57we think it's I got to get a buyer to
21:59sign a buyer's agency agreement. That's
22:01my job. That's my job as a salesperson.
22:02I got to get them to sign a listing
22:04agreement. That's my job. That's not it.
22:06That's a small part of it.
22:08That's a small part of it. But if you
22:09can accept the fact that sales is
22:11everything, it's your ability to
22:12influence an outcome
22:15by getting someone intellectually
22:16engaged on a future result that's good
22:17for them and help them emotionally
22:18commit to take action to achieve it.
22:21Right?
22:22Your job is to influence an outcome.
22:24Everybody's in sales. Chris Kelly who
22:25was just on here, by the way,
22:28unbelievable salesperson.
22:30>> Mhm. Right.
22:31>> Do you know what they call the best
22:33salesperson in any company in any
22:35organization, Jimmy? Do you know what
22:37they call them?
22:37>> Yeah.
22:38CEO.
22:39>> Thank you. Cuz you know what they have
22:40to sell?
22:42They have to sell something that doesn't
22:44even exist. It's called a vision.
22:46>> Mhm.
22:46>> It doesn't even exist.
22:48That's what they're selling and they're
22:50acquiring talent. Chris just recently,
22:53recent news, breaking news, he's
22:55bringing in unbelievable talent from
22:57Coldwell Banker. Just a beautiful master
22:59class. That's cuz he had to sell Um what
23:01was his name again? Jason Wah?
23:04>> Jason Wah, yeah. Mhm.
23:05>> I haven't had the
23:06privilege to meet him yet, but I'm sure
23:07he's amazing. Cuz he had to sell him
23:09that.
23:10>> Yeah.
23:11>> to sell these things and put these
23:12people in these positions. He got Jimmy
23:14Burgess back. Thank God.
23:16I celebrated that day. That's like a
23:18little national holiday around here.
23:20Um, that was a sale. See, cuz sales is
23:23not just buyers agency, it's not listing
23:25agency, it's how you acquire talent, how
23:27you cast a vision, it's how you build an
23:28organization. That's why all the greats,
23:30the true greats of business think that's
23:33the key.
23:34In the world we're going into,
23:36and I love the AI I got Claude Pro
23:38up right here on my other screen.
23:41There's going to be things coming down
23:43the pipe that are going to make our
23:43lives easier. And I'm look, I'm not the
23:45AI guy and I don't pretend to be. All
23:47I'm saying is I know the one thing that
23:50it's not going to be able to disrupt is
23:51when you talk to somebody.
23:54How How do you show up in that moment?
23:57How are you human to human? Until robots
23:59are buying houses from robots, they
24:01can't disrupt us. Almost everything else
24:03they can, scarily. And you can be
24:05excited about it, whatever.
24:08They're not going to be able to disrupt
24:09your ability to communicate with another
24:11human. And that's going to be even more
24:12important moving forward. More important
24:14now than it was when we did the last
24:16video.
24:18>> [clears throat]
24:18>> So,
24:19that's really important. So, I I've been
24:20breaking this stuff down because my kind
24:22of origin story, if you will, and how
24:24I've came to this
24:25is
24:26I was always kind of like,
24:28you know, I was the class clown. I I
24:30talked a lot. Um,
24:32quick wit, you know, gift of gab, people
24:34say these types of things.
24:36But it it formalized with me cuz I got
24:38into the industry, I started as a new
24:40home sales person. Jimmy, you've heard
24:41the story many times. What was cool
24:43about that is you have to go to like
24:44these eight interviews. Now, I'm a
24:4522-year-old kid, I'm partying. Okay?
24:49I go in and I get these seven interviews
24:52at NVR Inc. It's one of the big national
24:55home builders. And they're very
24:56particular of who they're going to bring
24:58in. So, I passed these interviews and
25:00they send us to HIT. They call it HIT,
25:03High Intensity Training. They don't send
25:06ducks to eagle school. That's what one
25:07of them said.
25:09They say, "We're going to go here. 2
25:10weeks, it's in Reston, Virginia, close
25:12to Langley." It was like CIA
25:14They're like testing your personality,
25:16and they teach you everything about new
25:18home sales and construction from
25:20here's how homes are built, here's the
25:21critical path of construction, here's
25:23how to read a site plan, here's how to
25:24read a floor plan, here's how you're
25:26going to interact with customers in the
25:27model. They're going to make sure you
25:28know how to sell these homes if we're
25:30going to put you in these communities,
25:31which have tens of tens, sometimes
25:34hundreds of millions of dollars of money
25:36changing hands over the course of a
25:37year. They want to make sure you're
25:38really good. So, I got all this
25:39training.
25:41And which is really good.
25:42And uh I learned a ton from it. It was
25:44really It was really awesome.
25:47But the magic happened where on my days
25:49off, cuz in that world you work every
25:51weekend, but I was off Tuesdays and
25:53Wednesdays. So, one of my older friends
25:54who I knew was really smart, who I just
25:56kind of clung on to, he worked at a
25:58sales consulting firm.
26:00And they teach They were teaching sales
26:02organizations how to win bids. B2B
26:06stuff, totally different from
26:07hand-to-hand combat, model home,
26:09consumer already wants the product,
26:11don't mess this up, which is the world
26:12we live in most of the time.
26:14They're doing some really interesting
26:16things on that sales front, and I just
26:17became obsessed with it. Thank god I
26:20did.
26:21And I got so many repetitions, cuz I sat
26:24in the model home every day. And people
26:25would come in. Come in. Come in. This is
26:27all buyer stuff.
26:28And I got to practice. And then for
26:31years, I became the number two
26:32salesperson in the entire company.
26:35Never missed my quota, crazy numbers. I
26:36was making like 200 grand as a
26:3823-year-old,
26:40which is dangerous.
26:42Cuz I had a credit card, and I'd go to
26:44the bar. I thought I was the man, and it
26:46was fun.
26:48And then I met my wife, [clears throat]
26:48saved my life. Anyway.
26:51That's the basis for some of this stuff.
26:53And as I've been I've been talking to
26:54Tom Ferry a lot and and some of the
26:56people
26:57I've been able to get close to only
26:58because I've been able to sell them on
27:01giving me the time of day, which has
27:03been my whole life. That's why I'm close
27:04with Jimmy. That's why I was close with
27:05Gino. That's why I'm close with Chris
27:06Kelly. That's why I got to meet Serhant.
27:08That's why I had Sharron
27:10teach me cuz I was selling them. Is that
27:12a buyer agency agreement? No.
27:14Cuz that's not what sales is. That's
27:15what we think it is.
27:18And Tom and I said, "Geez, if 77% of the
27:21industry sold zero homes in the last 12
27:23months and eight Everyone knows it's 85,
27:25probably climbing.
27:26Um people fail in this industry.
27:29This is what we believe the reason is is
27:31because no one's taught them what their
27:33job really is.
27:34And it is to do the paperwork right and
27:36it is to market yourself. I'm not
27:37discounting that. That's table stakes.
27:39Everybody does that.
27:41But not a lot of people have chosen to
27:44go on the journey of saying, "Man,
27:47my license says real estate salesperson.
27:51I want to be that.
27:53Doesn't say real estate social media
27:54marketer. Doesn't say real estate
27:56webinar, real estate put pictures on the
27:58internet, dance on TikTok.
28:00It says real estate salesperson. And we
28:03don't talk about it. And it's because
28:04the consumer wants the product. So, I'm
28:06going to give you I'm going to speed
28:07through these nine things and uh or it's
28:09our book's almost done.
28:11I'm not even sure if I'm supposed to be
28:12talking about this, but Tom and I are
28:13writing this book. We put a ton of time
28:15into it. We're very excited about it.
28:17But we broke them down this framework.
28:20That it's for sales in general. It's not
28:21real estate stuff, but it 100% applies
28:23cuz that's my whole lived experience. If
28:25it Jimmy, if it's okay, can I break down
28:27those nine real quick or should we
28:29>> Absolutely. Absolutely.
28:31>> Do you guys want to hear it in the chat
28:32or should I just go over the buyer
28:33presentation thing again?
28:34>> Uh let's Here we go. Let's see. Let's
28:37see what they're saying in the chat.
28:38>> I just want to give people what they
28:40want.
28:41>> Do it.
28:41>> Okay. They Okay. Do it. They like it.
28:43They're like
28:43>> Let's go.
28:44>> Cuz hey, I'm just talking to a camera
28:46and I see Jimmy's beautiful bald head
28:48here. I don't know if you guys want to
28:49hear this Okay, but I'll Okay,
28:51I'll tell it.
28:51>> I'm telling you, yes. If you bring it.
28:55Bring it.
28:57>> I dropped a couple of these nuggets in
28:58that first video, but I
29:01the reason people said, "Man, I just
29:03can't say it like him." Or that sounds
29:05good, but I can't do it. And it's
29:06because we're skipping six steps before
29:08we get to the seventh step, which is the
29:10consulting phase. Everyone loves a good
29:12presentation. I want to be good buyer
29:14presentation, good listening
29:15presentation. We're obsessed with it.
29:16Not as much as we're obsessed with
29:18marketing, but we want it, but we don't
29:21you skip all these steps. And here
29:22here's some of the steps, okay?
29:25There's nine of them. I'm going to go
29:27through them quick. Each one of them you
29:28could do a freaking
29:30day on.
29:31But the first one is comfort.
29:35You're never going to make someone else
29:36comfortable
29:39if you're not comfortable with yourself.
29:43And I can't tell you how powerful that
29:44is.
29:45And people get it, but do you really get
29:48it? Cuz in different situations some
29:49situations you are comfortable in and
29:51then something happens and you become
29:52uncomfortable.
29:54Maybe it's a price point.
29:56Maybe when it's oh, their parents are
29:58coming in. Maybe it's when you're
29:59competing. It doesn't matter the
30:01scenario.
30:02Like maybe you're comfortable meeting
30:04people at your office, but not at the
30:05house. Or when it comes up in
30:07conversation or when people say at the
30:08cocktail party, "How's the market?"
30:10You're kind of uncomfortable cuz you
30:11don't know and
30:12by the way, hey, you know what my best
30:13line for that is now, Jimmy?
30:15If someone says, "How's the market?" And
30:17I know how to answer it. That's not the
30:18topic of the the conversation.
30:21I would say,
30:22um is that like a how's the weather
30:24question or do you really want to know?
30:27>> It's good. Yeah.
30:29Yeah.
30:29>> Cuz you want permission to go deeper.
30:31Cuz then they all say, "No, I really
30:32want to know." Good. Now I'm going to
30:33Now I'm going to
30:35lock you up.
30:37So, comfort's really key and it comes it
30:39comes down to and there's all this
30:41science. Everything that's in our book
30:42is all based on science. Again, it's not
30:44a real estate book.
30:46What does being comfortable mean? And
30:48And just the the phrase I want you to
30:50take away with is
30:51it's two things. One is you have to be
30:53in a state of relaxed concentration.
30:57Hard.
30:59Sounds simple, hard to do.
31:01Cuz your environment's always changing.
31:02It's a very dynamic, fluid world we're
31:04living in.
31:05And if you're not in a state of relaxed
31:07concentration, you're not going to be
31:08able to do the other things.
31:10So, you have to know that. And you have
31:11to have a plan for that. And you have to
31:12work on that.
31:14Because any situation you go into,
31:17you pick
31:19how you're perceived.
31:22So, you have control over that. You
31:23control how you show up. You control
31:26your energy. How you feel on the inside
31:28radiates to those on the outside. We
31:29don't think about that. We're rushing
31:32around day to day. We're not locked in.
31:34Okay, I know I'm going woo-woo on you,
31:35but this is critical because if you
31:37don't get these steps, you're not going
31:38to be able to do the fun stuff. Say the
31:40lines, be slick, be cool, people think
31:42you're awesome. That's step one,
31:43comfortable.
31:44The next one is you actually have to
31:46care.
31:48You actually have to care.
31:50And that manifests in so many different
31:52ways.
31:54Care, it's not just And I took my notes
31:56down how you how you look.
31:58Like appearance matters. Hate to say it.
32:01Everyone's judging you all the time.
32:02Malcolm Gladwell wrote a great book on
32:04it called Blink. People are judging you,
32:06just get over it. They are. How do you
32:07show up? Are you punctual? Are you
32:09friendly? Do you listen? Are you
32:11genuinely curious?
32:14Okay, if you miss that step, it's going
32:16to be tough to get to the third step,
32:17which is connection.
32:19You want to have a connection with these
32:21people. You're about to embark on this
32:22journey of whether they're buying a
32:24home, selling a home, joining your team,
32:26enrolling them in your organization. You
32:28have to have some sort of connection. It
32:29starts with are you comfortable?
32:31Which is, am I good?
32:32Do I care? Are you good? Connection, are
32:35we good?
32:36>> Mm, That's good.
32:38>> That that's super
32:39>> Say that one more time. Say that one
32:41more time, those three steps.
32:42>> Yeah, that's Well, first of all, it's
32:44comfort, care, connection, and there's
32:46I got hundreds of pages on it, so I'm
32:48just giving you the CliffNotes, but the
32:49the
32:49>> Yeah.
32:50>> tied up, you say, "Am I good?
32:52Like am I Am I good with me right now?
32:55Are you good?" And I actually really
32:57want to know.
32:58And there's a beautiful thing called
33:00tactical empathy, which is arguably the
33:02most important point from Chris Voss's
33:04book,
33:05Never Split the Difference, FBI
33:06negotiator.
33:08Am I good? Are you good? Are we good?
33:10And are we good comes into all the signs
33:12behind actual bond and rapport.
33:14How's your energy? How's your pace? Can
33:16you match and mirror?
33:18Are you making them feel comfortable?
33:20Are we establishing a connection? And
33:21can you adapt
33:24you
33:25to the client so you can establish a
33:27connection?
33:29That There's been books written on each
33:31one of those topics.
33:32>> Mhm.
33:33>> We don't do that in our industry
33:36cuz we're not focused on it cuz the
33:37consumer already wants the product. I
33:38know I'm beating that horse to death.
33:41That's the first of the nine Cs.
33:43Next is control.
33:48Control is the most critical aspect.
33:50This is whether you're either going to
33:51be part of your plan or you're going to
33:53be part of their plan.
33:55Who is going to take control over this
33:58situation? By the way, the consumers
34:00want you to take control, but you don't
34:01do it.
34:02And control is simply about
34:05gathering agendas
34:07and agreeing on an outcome and agreeing
34:10that we're just going to make a decision
34:11on a next step at the end of the
34:12meeting.
34:15That's you have to establish control.
34:16What's going to happen? People want to
34:18know what's going to happen before it
34:19happens.
34:20And you want to get permission to ask
34:22these questions and go through this
34:24process, whether it's with a buyer or
34:26with a seller. You have to set a frame
34:29around
34:30the conversation that's about to happen.
34:32So, you have comfort, care, connection,
34:34control.
34:37And real quick on control is all you're
34:39trying to do is I want to know
34:40what you want.
34:42And I want to ask you questions to
34:44determine if I can help you.
34:46And then at the end of that, we're going
34:48to agree what the next logical step is.
34:49Is that okay?
34:52People don't do that. They skip that
34:53step all the time. That is the biggest
34:54key.
34:55That's where you actually close them.
34:57Closing is this mystical thing that
34:59happens at the end when I wink and I'm
35:00cool and I do this and I look good. It's
35:02that's not it.
35:04The best closers are the best openers
35:06and it's those who establish control.
35:08In a buyer situation, Jimmy, for
35:09example, say, "Hey Jimmy, thanks so much
35:11for agreeing to take the time to meet
35:12with me. What types of things would you
35:14like to go over
35:16in order to make the best use of your
35:17time today?"
35:18Uh Jimmy, all right. They were thinking
35:20about moving. We're looking at houses.
35:21It doesn't matter. Awesome. We're going
35:23to make sure we cover that. Um I'm going
35:25to of course have to ask you some
35:26questions around, you know, your time
35:27frame, your budget, if there's any
35:30critical dependencies around those
35:31things, um who's involved in the
35:33decision-making process.
35:35And if it's okay with you, I'll kind of
35:36show you how our process works and where
35:38we bring some value. Is that okay if we
35:40do that?
35:41Awesome. Hey, look, at the end of this,
35:43we'll just figure out what the next step
35:44is as long as you're cool with it. I'll
35:45point you in the right direction.
35:47That's control. That's the that's the
35:49key.
35:50That's the that's all This is all the
35:51stuff we missed in the first video.
35:53That's why I was telling Jimmy, I don't
35:54want to do the same video. I That one
35:55people like that one.
35:57>> Yeah, and you can go watch that
35:58obviously and get a a deep dive. We're
36:00going to give you the timeline here in
36:01just a few minutes, but you want to see
36:03the deep dive on that process,
36:05absolutely. That'll be That'll be the
36:06201 part to this.
36:09>> So, you have to establish control. Then
36:11after that, you have to clarify what it
36:13is they actually want.
36:14That's a whole another C. Notice there
36:16are nine Cs.
36:18Comfort, care, connect, control,
36:21clarify.
36:23Okay? If you want better answers, you
36:25have to ask better questions.
36:27Every good sales situation is all about
36:30the questions you ask.
36:32And by the way, these things are all in
36:33order. If If you're no longer
36:35comfortable in that moment, you're going
36:37to mess it up. If they don't think you
36:38care, you're going to mess it up. If
36:40there's no connection, you're not going
36:41to be able to establish control.
36:44And if you don't establish control, it
36:45sounds like you're interrogating them.
36:47You don't have permission to do it.
36:49You have to clarify what this person
36:50actually wants. And guys, don't
36:52overthink it. They want to move.
36:55Why do they want to move?
36:57What's the pain point? There's four P's
36:58in there. You want the pain, the ideal
37:01picture,
37:03their process for decision-making, and
37:05and price, which is just budget. So, I'm
37:07not going to get into the nuances of the
37:08book, but
37:09you have to clarify these things. Why do
37:11they want to move? What's the price
37:13range? Who's involved?
37:15What's going on?
37:16Then you crystallize it
37:19by repeating it back to them in their
37:20exact words. Cuz sometimes we hear what
37:22we want to hear, it's not what they
37:23said.
37:24Right.
37:25Critical error.
37:28Then we can get to the consulting.
37:31Now notice,
37:32last time we just jumped right to the
37:34consulting. Here's a cool buyer
37:35presentation to show value. And we'll do
37:36it again.
37:38But if you miss those first steps,
37:41it's not going to work. You're going to
37:42be uncomfortable. There's not going to
37:44be rapport. The whole thing seems to
37:46break. And by the way, those steps, and
37:48then it's consult, close, confirm. Okay.
37:51Jumping ahead.
37:52That's for anything.
37:54It's not for Right. You see? It's not
37:57for That's what Chris Kelly does when
37:59he's bringing in over
38:01a top executive from Coldwell Banker who
38:03can probably help our network grow quite
38:05a bit. Cuz no one really likes what's
38:07going on with Compass and Redfin and
38:08Rocket and this thing and that thing.
38:11He was comfortable. He cared.
38:14You know, he connected with the guy.
38:16He set the table for a nice
38:17conversation. He really probably
38:19understood what what important to that
38:20guy, crystallized it. Then he showed him
38:22the world, and he got and now we now
38:24we're attracting talent. It's with
38:26everything, guys.
38:28It's with everything.
38:30And I'm just I'm passionate about it,
38:32and that's why I was like, "Jimmy, I
38:33don't want to do the timeline right out
38:34of the gate because it doesn't matter if
38:36you don't really understand it." And
38:38it's not hard to understand. You just
38:40have to accept this. I'm I'm going to
38:41jump to the timeline in a second, but
38:43you have to understand this.
38:45This is your product.
38:47Our job as real estate agents
38:49is to get people intellectually engaged
38:52on a future result that's good for them
38:54and help them emotionally commit to take
38:56action to achieve that result.
38:58So,
38:59in our world,
39:01we have to show them that we can
39:02influence the outcome of a real estate
39:04transaction.
39:07Okay?
39:08We have to show them that. How do we do
39:11that? We do that by effectively managing
39:14the entire real estate ecosystem.
39:17Cuz it's not just you and the buyer,
39:19it's you and the buyer
39:21versus the world, and the world is the
39:23sellers, the seller's agent, the market,
39:25the market dynamics, the home inspector,
39:27the appraiser, the lender, the title
39:29company, the portal, whatever.
39:32But if you notice
39:34in this,
39:35you don't present, you don't start
39:38consulting, you don't jump into it until
39:41you know what they care about.
39:43That's why you can't have a canned
39:44presentation. That's why the timeline's
39:46pretty good.
39:47I mean, I use it, but I only use it
39:49after I know what's important to them.
39:52Cuz I don't want to bore them. I want to
39:54get to the truth very quickly, and I
39:56want to be respectful. I just want to
39:58know what's important to you, and I'm
40:00going to see if I can give it to you.
40:02And if I can't, cool. I'll stop wasting
40:03my unbelievably valuable time.
40:06But more often than not, I think I could
40:08probably help you.
40:10That's the That's the juice.
40:12You don't present. It's like a good
40:13attorney doesn't ask questions they
40:15don't already know the answers to.
40:17So, you prep in the courtroom.
40:19That's why you do the you know. But, we
40:21don't do it cuz we're not into sales.
40:23Sales is bad. I'm not good at sales.
40:25I like
40:27you're going to make a decision right
40:28now and we're moving on.
40:30You're going to make a decision. Do you
40:32want to be good at this?
40:35Do you want to be good at your job?
40:38I think the answer is yes.
40:41I hope it is, but we don't talk about
40:44it. And we And it's not just role-play.
40:46This isn't This is a personal journey.
40:48You have to be an autodidact.
40:51That's a fun fancy polysyllabic word
40:54that means
40:55you have to teach yourself.
40:59Everybody does. Like we're writing the
41:00book that breaks down every
41:02psychological principle and every great
41:03tactic and you don't think Tom Ferry's
41:05got some data on this? I mean, his
41:06dad worked for Earl Nightingale. The guy
41:08was the godfather of the modern-day
41:09personal development movement. Every
41:11piece of sales training in this country,
41:13we have it. With AI now, I have it.
41:16And Tom's got 200,000 fully anonymized
41:18coaching calls going back to 2017 with
41:20every top producer. We know what the
41:22problems are.
41:24And we built that framework and there's
41:26a lot more to it, but that's the little
41:28I'm just giving you a little sprinkle on
41:30it, little thimble. See if you like it.
41:32>> Hey, Andrew, if you will, cuz a couple
41:34people have asked, um they didn't cuz
41:36you you went real fast on the last
41:38three. Can you give all nine of those
41:40real quick, if you don't mind?
41:42>> I'm going to give it to you. I'm Okay,
41:43I'm going to give it to you, but here's
41:44my ask. Hey, follow me on Instagram,
41:46ready? So, I've been I've been talking
41:48about this a lot. I'm putting in the
41:49chat right now. Stand by. This is live,
41:51baby. It's @undom.
41:55>> Yes.
41:55>> me. You follow me and we'll talk, okay?
41:57Just don't waste my time.
42:00>> [laughter]
42:01>> Here's the nine C's.
42:03Comfort.
42:05Not them, it's you.
42:08Care.
42:11Connection.
42:14That's the first triad. That's
42:16interpersonal.
42:17That's you and you.
42:20Then it's control,
42:23clarify,
42:25crystallize.
42:29Okay, and there's a lot that goes into
42:30each one of those steps.
42:32Finally,
42:34it's consult.
42:37That was like presenting.
42:38Consult with these people.
42:41Close.
42:42Cuz closing is still a thing. You have
42:44to ask, right? You have to
42:47guide the ship.
42:48And then confirm.
42:51And that's where you're confirming next
42:52steps.
42:53See, in our job, when we're when we'll
42:55get to the buyer stuff, you're talking
42:56to a buyer, your job's not to
42:58slam them into a house. Your job is to
43:00get them into the next logical step.
43:04That's all it is.
43:05When a lead comes in, the next logical
43:07step is maybe we should set up a time to
43:08talk.
43:10And maybe it's get pre-approved. Maybe
43:11it's we start showing houses. You're
43:13just moving the process forward.
43:15You can't I love to draw out the fence,
43:17Jimmy. You remember the fence? This is a
43:19great Tell us fence. And there's all
43:21these people on the fence. Okay? And
43:23they're either going to not buy a house
43:25or keep signing the lease, keep living
43:27in their parents' basement like a loser,
43:29or they're going to buy a house. Your
43:30job is to get them off the fence.
43:33Okay?
43:34Intellectually engage, future result,
43:35right? Emotionally commit.
43:37But your job is to just move it forward.
43:40That's what sales is. We're moving
43:42forward confidently. We're in control.
43:44There's no mutual mystification. I know
43:47what we're doing. They know what we're
43:49doing. We're good. I'm good. They're
43:52good. We're good. We're in control.
43:55And it's either you get these people
43:57off the fence and eventually into a
43:59home,
44:01or you don't. And if you can't get them
44:02off the fence, here's what we're going
44:03to do. Ready for this, Jimmy? Here's
44:05what we're going to
44:06If you can't get the people off the
44:07fence, we'll take down the fence.
44:10Okay? And we'll use the wood to build a
44:12casket that'll bury your real estate
44:14career.
44:18Sound good?
44:19>> Yeah, that's great. Yeah.
44:21>> [laughter]
44:23>> All right, so I'm going to jump into the
44:23timeline. Again, we did this video
44:25before.
44:26>> Yes.
44:27>> I'm going to go through a little quicker
44:28cuz if you really are into it, you can
44:29go back and watch it. And like Jimmy
44:31said,
44:32this yesterday, Jimmy's like, "Hey,
44:34we're going to hop on at 11:40."
44:36I said, "Hey, this guy I get DMs on
44:38Instagram. Hey, can you send me that
44:39thing that Jimmy mentioned that might be
44:41It's out there somewhere." Every day
44:43people are asking us for this.
44:45And it goes into this.
44:46Guys, this isn't a surprise to you. I'm
44:48going to tell you about things you're
44:49already doing but how to articulate it
44:50better cuz the spirit of this whole
44:52situation
44:53is how can I showcase value?
44:56And we have a whole another one on
44:58sellers but we're focusing on buyers
44:59today.
45:01And I always like when I'm in that
45:02consulting step, I've went through those
45:04C's and it's time to sit down. Now we're
45:06in it and I permission and I know what's
45:07important to you. I've crystallized
45:09what's important to you. I'm going to
45:10break down
45:12the process and I've already agreed
45:15You've already agreed to allow me to do
45:16this cuz no one says no to that when you
45:19establish control.
45:21Is I draw a timeline just like this.
45:23Well, I'm not going to show you. This
45:24always happens. I need to start doing
45:25the Sharran iPad thing, Jimmy.
45:27So you can see it real time.
45:28>> Yes.
45:29>> First thing I step I always do, you know
45:31what? I'm going to go back to this one.
45:34Is I draw a
45:36And I say, "So, the first critical step
45:40that, you know, where we can bring a lot
45:41of value out of the gates is helping you
45:43on the pre-approval side. When's the
45:45last time you spoke with a a mortgage
45:47lender? Unless you're planning on buying
45:49cash."
45:50It's all question based.
45:52Whatever they say is fine. Haven't
45:53talked to one yet. My bank said I'm
45:54good. My parents are going to I don't
45:56care what they say. No matter what, it's
45:57good. Bond and reports good. And I would
46:00used to "Well,
46:01some of the components of value we bring
46:02to the relationship on the pre-approval
46:04is we actually help our buyers not only
46:06fully wrap their head around the exact
46:09down payment and monthly payment that
46:11that's good for them. We help them
46:13achieve the lowest interest rate by
46:15shopping all the different mortgage
46:17options on their behalf. I'd love to
46:20help you do that. Because do you guys
46:22want to have a lower interest rate or a
46:23higher interest rate?
46:25You want it lower? Well, you can go talk
46:27to five people right now. They're all
46:28going to quote you something different.
46:30And what I like to do for my clients
46:32is help them get not only the lowest
46:34rate, but the lowest fees.
46:36And that's normally found with the best
46:38available product.
46:40Now, banks sometimes offer incentives.
46:42There's credit unions that have
46:43different incentives. There's mortgage
46:44brokers that have different incentives.
46:46It's all dependent on your price point,
46:47your occupation, where you're looking to
46:49buy.
46:50So, that's a really important step. And
46:52we want to unlock some value in that
46:54process for you. Cuz my job, really,
46:57is what a great agent's job is, right,
46:58Jimmy? You're always doing the touch
47:00thing.
47:01>> Yeah. Hey, explain that again. Cuz I
47:02mean, listen, we we we we we always talk
47:04about this, but I think a lot of people
47:05miss it. But it's such a subtle
47:08psychological um advantage that people
47:10can grab so easily. Um so, explain that,
47:13if you don't mind.
47:14>> And you do this throughout, but you're
47:15always saying, you know what a great
47:16agent does?
47:18And you're touching yourself. And you're
47:20kind of
47:20subliminally and and
47:23via body language telling them that
47:25you're awesome. In a not in a non-weird
47:27way, cuz you're already having a
47:28connection and you have rapport and
47:29everything's going great.
47:31Is you always wanted to say, "Hey, what
47:32a great agent does?"
47:35It just works. And people are bought
47:37into the fact that this guy's probably
47:38not an idiot. And he probably is pretty
47:40good.
47:41Right?
47:42>> Right.
47:42>> And you always say that, you know,
47:45what a great agent does is they find
47:46ways to unlock value for their buyers
47:48before they even start looking.
47:50And that's part of the pre-approval
47:51process. What a lot of people say, and I
47:53see it, and you probably seen it, too.
47:54People say the first step's getting
47:56pre-approved, and they just punch you to
47:57somebody or expect you to run off and
47:59figure out the world of mortgage
48:02financing in the United States around
48:03real property assets.
48:06I think that's a dereliction of duty, so
48:07we really want to help you do that. And
48:09I don't care who you use, I just want to
48:10make sure you understand the array of
48:12options for you.
48:14And a lot of times with our buyers, we
48:16can find
48:17tax incentives, grant money,
48:20and and a litany of things. So, you want
48:23to make sure you hit that point. We did
48:24that in the other video. So,
48:26pre-approval's a big step. Say
48:27pre-approval.
48:28Then I like to talk about the home
48:30search process. So, we say, "So, notice
48:32how all these start with a question.
48:34How are you searching for homes now?"
48:36And they'll say, "I'm on Zillow, I'm on
48:38Redfin, my friend sends me stuff, my
48:39cousin's actually an agent, I got a MLS
48:41feed." Doesn't matter.
48:43We would say, "Oh, that's awesome.
48:44That's that's super helpful.
48:46But a lot of times there's a lot of
48:50inventory that you're not seeing. And
48:51this is more relevant than ever now,
48:54right? With the world we're living in.
48:56Um because some of these Zillow preview,
48:59Redfin, Compass, all that, even got more
49:02dynamic, but you have to articulate the
49:03ability that you're going to be able to
49:05show them everything that they might not
49:07even be seeing.
49:09Because there's a lot of buyers out
49:10there that they would buy the right
49:12house if they could find it, but they
49:13just can't find it, and it's because
49:14they're not looking properly. So, you're
49:16now you're bringing in some value to the
49:19home search process.
49:21And I always like to say, "You know, did
49:22you know that you can look at every
49:23single house that someone tried to sell
49:25that didn't sell in the last 6 months?
49:26It's probably still for sale, but it's
49:28not on Zillow, not anywhere."
49:30Off the market, those are expireds,
49:32withdrawns, canceleds.
49:34And there's there's so many things here,
49:35and as a group, we could probably come
49:37up with a lot more. But like new homes,
49:39a lot of times a a builders will put one
49:41or two listings up, but really there's
49:4310, 15, 20,
49:45and you don't have access to those.
49:47There's something called broker
49:48exclusives or pocket listings that
49:50people have, but they're not publicly
49:52available. See, one of the things I like
49:54to do for my buyer clients is once I
49:55really know what you're looking for,
49:57we're going to unlock some of that
49:58inventory, probably avoid competition.
50:02Cuz again, my only goal and what a great
50:04agent's job really is
50:06is to get you what you want in the
50:07fashion in which you want it, so you say
50:10nice things about me on the internet.
50:12Give me a little wink. Give me a little
50:13haha.
50:14Future plan for the review. You again
50:15say that at any time. So, you talk about
50:17home search. That's a component of
50:19value. And yet, these are things you
50:20already do, but you're just not
50:21explaining it to the buyer. Where's the
50:23value? They don't think they need you.
50:25Right. Of course, cuz you haven't
50:26educated them. You can't get mad at
50:28somebody for doing something you didn't
50:30tell them they couldn't do, and you
50:31can't get mad at somebody for thinking
50:33that you're not bringing value when you
50:34didn't tell them the value you bring.
50:37Right. Okay?
50:39This is like Everyone's like, "Yeah,
50:40that makes sense." Yeah, let's do
50:41something about it. So, you have
50:43pre-approval, home search. Then I third
50:46bullet point on the buyer presentation
50:47is market dynamics.
50:50So, you say,
50:51"One of the things
50:52Are you guys fully aware of the
50:54relationship between actives, pendings,
50:56and solds
50:57in this zip code, wherever they're
50:58looking, this municipality, this town,
51:00this state, this city?" They always say
51:02no.
51:04You say, "Well, the critical thing about
51:06market dynamics and why it's important
51:07as you begin this process when you're
51:09looking for homes is it really is just a
51:11relationship between what's on the
51:12market, what's pending,
51:14what's sold, and what's coming on the
51:16market?"
51:17Most agents don't even know what's
51:18coming on the market because they're
51:20going to wait for you to find a house.
51:22And then they're going to go open the
51:23door for you. That's not how we roll.
51:25So,
51:26once we really narrow in on what you're
51:27looking for, it's critical to understand
51:30in that market, what is the
51:32list-to-sales price ratio?
51:35Meaning,
51:37are homes selling for full price, little
51:39over full price, little under
51:42asking price? Is it 98% of list-to-sales
51:44price ratio? Is it 101%? That's
51:46important to know cuz it's going to
51:47inform us on what we can expect when we
51:50go to make an offer.
51:52You have to understand market dynamics,
51:54list of sales price ratio,
51:56days on market. Simple stuff, guys. You
51:58guys know this cuz you're real estate
51:59agents. Your consumer doesn't know.
52:01And you can make it sound important, and
52:03it is important.
52:05But nothing's important unless you make
52:07it important.
52:09Value.
52:11So, and there's a bunch of other stuff.
52:13Like,
52:14is there any concessions? What
52:15percentage of buyers in this price point
52:17in this area are getting concessions?
52:18You want to gather information.
52:20Okay? So, you talk about market
52:22dynamics. Again, litany of stuff you can
52:24talk about there, but you show it and
52:26you articulate it well, and they go,
52:27"Wow, I might be better off with this
52:29guy than without him." Right? That's the
52:31whole thing. It's how you make them
52:32feel. Starting with those first six Cs,
52:34now we're just doing the presentation.
52:37Next bullet points. We went
52:38pre-approval, home search, market
52:39dynamics, then you drop to say offer
52:41research. This is often skipped. Here's
52:43what I know.
52:46Here's what I know.
52:47You get paid in terms of your equity.
52:50Your equity position will be directly
52:51correlated to the information we're able
52:53to gather throughout the process. So,
52:56when you find a home you like, and
52:58again, it's going to be a process of
52:59elimination. You're going to be able to
53:01eliminate homes based on obviously the
53:03location, the price, the size,
53:06you know, you don't like the kitchen,
53:08kitchen cabinets, the amount of work it
53:09needs.
53:11But if you can't eliminate it, and we go
53:13see it, and this is now a maybe for you,
53:15we need to immediately start doing offer
53:17research.
53:19And this is where I get forensic on your
53:20behalf. I want to know everything about
53:23why these people are selling, when did
53:24they buy it, what did they buy it for,
53:26how are they holding title, did they get
53:28a concession when they bought it. Um is
53:30there any critical dependencies for that
53:31seller in terms of
53:33their time frame? What are they looking
53:35for? And these are gather, gather,
53:36gather,
53:38cuz if we can gather that information,
53:39it's It's to put us in a better position
53:41when we do submit an offer cuz we know
53:43what they want. And if we can give the
53:45sellers some of what they want, whether
53:47it's time frame, maybe it's price, maybe
53:49it's any number of things, we don't know
53:50until we find out,
53:53we'll have a better likelihood of
53:54getting what we want, lower price,
53:56bigger concession, and we'll actually
53:58secure the property. Offer research is a
54:01is a big deal. I I'm looking forward to
54:03including you in on that process with me
54:04cuz you and me versus the world.
54:06I always say that, too. It's you and
54:08your client versus the world. You are
54:10one.
54:11And time out. That's what agency is, by
54:13the way.
54:14>> Mhm.
54:15>> The word age agency, if you it's acting
54:18on behalf of another.
54:19If I'm your agent, we're this.
54:22I'm with you.
54:24I don't care what else is going on. I
54:25want to get you what you want. I'm not
54:27going to pretend to know what you want.
54:29But I think this stuff might be
54:30important to you if you're going to make
54:31a buyer purchase. Pre-approval, home
54:33search, market dynamics, offer research,
54:35and then this is critical.
54:37And on on short time, if you only have a
54:39minute, you're at the bar, kids'
54:41sporting event, you get the how's the
54:43market question,
54:44you always talk about the components of
54:46an offer.
54:47So you say, "Let me explain to you like
54:48what an offer actually is." And it's
54:50just five things.
54:52Purchase price,
54:53closing cost, and I always say, "You've
54:55heard of that term closing cost?"
54:57Everyone's heard of it, no one knows
54:58what it is.
54:59So you explain it.
55:00There's these fees associated with
55:02buying a home. A lot of them are
55:03transfer recordation fees, title fees,
55:05upfront taxes and insurance. So that's
55:07what closing costs actually is.
55:09Okay. So an offer is just purchase
55:11price, closing costs, contingencies,
55:13deposit, and settlement date.
55:15So I'm going to walk you through those
55:16real quick. Purchase price,
55:18that's what we're going to offer to pay
55:19for the home.
55:21Closing cost, I just kind of hit it.
55:23Contingencies, anytime you make an
55:26offer, we always consult our buyers to
55:28make sure we have the necessary and
55:30appropriate contingencies,
55:33like you're going to do a home
55:34inspection within a certain amount of
55:36time.
55:38You're going to have a
55:40financing contingency, part of which is
55:42an appraisal.
55:44Cuz the bank won't even let you buy a
55:45home unless they think it's a good
55:46value. These are contingencies we put in
55:48an offer cuz our buyers
55:51what we like to do here and we really
55:52take care of people
55:54is we make sure they understand when we
55:56get a home under contract, they have the
55:58right to buy that home.
55:59You don't have to buy that house. You
56:01have the right to buy it.
56:03You also have these contingencies that
56:04are part of your offer. Cuz it's my job
56:06I'm here to protect you
56:08to make sure along the way you have
56:09options.
56:11So you hit them with contingencies.
56:12That's value.
56:14That's showcasing value.
56:16Deposit, earnest money deposit, you guys
56:17know that. And then settlement date. Key
56:20term in an offer. What day are you
56:21willing to take ownership of this
56:22property?
56:25And a lot of times, depending on your
56:26situation, if we're flexible, we can
56:27give the seller what they want in
56:28settlement date, we get what we want,
56:30lower price.
56:32So, those five components of an offer, I
56:34want you guys to start thinking about
56:35that when I'm sending you some of this
56:36inventory, when I'm showing you things
56:38that are coming up that no one else can
56:40see, and it's listed for 750, I want you
56:43to start thinking, okay, if we give them
56:45750 with a $7,000 deposit, I want 10
56:48days for a home inspection,
56:505 days to apply for my loan, 21 days
56:52for, you know, loan commitment, and if I
56:54settle in 30 days,
56:56is that something we should submit?
56:57That's thinking like you're making an
56:59offer. Now you're actually shopping for
57:01a home like an educated consumer, but
57:04you know, God bless the industry, most
57:05people don't do that.
57:07We don't like surprises.
57:09And that's the beautiful thing about the
57:11timeline, it's a beautiful thing about
57:12establishing control, it's a
57:13psychological principle saying people
57:15want to know what's going to happen
57:16before it happens. And that's why this
57:17stuff works.
57:19And
57:20and that's why I have came up with this
57:21and I just I beat it. You know what's
57:23funny, Jimmy? I don't even train my team
57:25that much on it anymore because here's
57:26the deal, autodidact, you either want to
57:28know this stuff or you don't. I don't
57:30care.
57:30>> Right.
57:31>> I don't care.
57:32>> Right.
57:32>> If you don't want to do it, just do it
57:33your way.
57:34But you know what I think? I've seen
57:36other people's ways and I think they
57:37suck.
57:40That's it. That's just my opinion.
57:43And there's other and I'm not saying
57:44this is perfect. There's things you do
57:46better than me at this, but we can
57:48together we can make it even better.
57:49That's what's going to be cool about
57:50QuickWin Collective. It's going to be
57:52what's cool about our network is we got
57:53to start sharing these awesome things in
57:56that spirit of abundance because it's
57:57only going to make everybody better and
57:59no one's going to do it. And even if
58:01they do it, they're not going to be as
58:02good as you.
58:04>> Right.
58:04>> If you commit to it.
58:06>> Well, the the beauty of this is that the
58:09it's you know, you make a true statement
58:11which is where the opportunity is for
58:13those that are taking a Friday to sit
58:15here and to get better to understand the
58:20psychology and the format for doing
58:23this. Obviously, we've got additional
58:26when if if anybody wants to see the full
58:28description of this in more detail.
58:30We've got that video that
58:32>> I didn't even get to the last four, but
58:33whatever. We did it before. So it's all
58:36good.
58:36>> I'll tell you what. Yeah, that's let's
58:37do this because I think there were a few
58:39questions. Sam, I saw Sam pop up. So I
58:41want to make sure we get some of those
58:42questions if there are some that are
58:44pressing answered. Sam, anything that
58:47jumped out and then look, I agree.
58:49But let me just say this.
58:51If they did if you watch this and you
58:54didn't walk away with one thing that you
58:56can put into practice immediately. I
58:57mean my gosh, in the first five minutes
58:59Chris gave us the the key to do today.
59:01The talking points you can do on social.
59:03If you didn't walk away with one
59:04additional idea, you weren't paying
59:07attention. So just make sure go back and
59:09watch this over and again. I I was on
59:11the flight last night. I listened again
59:13to the presentation in that video from
59:15however many years ago it was and
59:17Andrew, it is uh
59:19it's it's spot on and what I what I will
59:22people will notice also is
59:25that the presentation you just gave
59:26those portions
59:28the language unlock keywords, you know,
59:32the power of words and the way that you
59:35presented it today was almost verbatim
59:38for what you said 3 years ago. See, this
59:40is the thing is is when what was it how
59:42did you say it Andrew unconscious
59:46professionalism or unconscious
59:48>> It's unconscious competence and and
59:50that's
59:51what everybody needs to be working
59:52towards and I'll hang out for a little
59:54bit. Seems like people are sticking
59:55around. It's like
59:56>> Yeah.
59:56>> It's um
59:58And here's where you have to get to and
59:59I had to go through this journey myself
1:00:01and I don't want people to say cuz this
1:00:03has happened in the past and they're
1:00:04like, oh, he's so good. I'm not that
1:00:05good. I'm telling them. I've just done
1:00:09it so many times. Exactly right.
1:00:11Repetition is the mother of skill.
1:00:14That's why I'm just challenging
1:00:17You're either going to be good or you're
1:00:18not.
1:00:19It's binary. And if you want to be good,
1:00:21you have to do what it takes.
1:00:23>> Yeah.
1:00:23>> And what it takes is you try it and you
1:00:25mess it up. No one's messed up more
1:00:27deals than me.
1:00:30I've made so and I still do cuz I go,
1:00:33oh, you know what? They didn't think I
1:00:35cared. I missed a step.
1:00:36>> Right.
1:00:37>> I wasn't comfortable. No wonder I didn't
1:00:39Yeah.
1:00:40Oh, you know what? I never set a proper
1:00:44appropriate agenda and knew what the
1:00:45next step was going to be. I had no
1:00:47control here.
1:00:48Happens every day, but I know cuz I
1:00:51debrief with myself.
1:00:53>> Right.
1:00:54>> But the unconscious competence thing
1:00:55Jimmy is this. Everyone moves from and
1:00:58it's and you should ask yourselves this.
1:01:00Like where are you in this moment now? I
1:01:02didn't even know I didn't even know that
1:01:04stuff.
1:01:05>> Mhm.
1:01:05>> I didn't even This is just occurred to
1:01:07me. I didn't even know.
1:01:09>> Right.
1:01:09>> That's called unconscious incompetence,
1:01:12which is fine. Don't
1:01:14>> Which everybody goes through. Everybody
1:01:16goes through that, you know, and today
1:01:17may be that day for some people where
1:01:19they got on here and they were just
1:01:20like, I've been doing this completely
1:01:22wrong. There is a level another level to
1:01:24this and so I think that's that unlock
1:01:26that happened for some people today, but
1:01:29yeah man, this is this is the power of
1:01:31it and this is why I so appreciate this.
1:01:34I want to mention one thing also because
1:01:36I know there were a lot of questions
1:01:38around, you know, when does the book
1:01:40come out? Obviously this is a process.
1:01:42>> Guys, I'm not even sure look, I wasn't
1:01:44supposed to say that. I wasn't supposed
1:01:46to say that, but you know
1:01:47>> Yeah, when you started I was like, he's
1:01:49really going to say this. I
1:01:50>> [laughter]
1:01:50>> knew we talked about it, but he's about
1:01:53to give me the
1:01:53>> Jimmy. Jimmy a favor if you're still on
1:01:55here.
1:01:57>> Send Tom Perry a DM and said
1:01:59when can we get you and Andrew's book?
1:02:01>> Listen, I have a feeling that we were
1:02:04both going to get a response from Tom
1:02:05today on what are y'all doing? What are
1:02:08y'all doing, you know? So anyway, this
1:02:10is but it'll be great. Let me just say
1:02:11this, not if but when that does happen,
1:02:14Andrew will be back on. You know,
1:02:16obviously there will be some promotion
1:02:17for the book and and what's great about
1:02:19this is that I know Andrew and let me
1:02:21just say this and Tom as well. They're
1:02:23coming from a place that they understand
1:02:25how much this industry has given to them
1:02:27and this book or anything that both of
1:02:30them do comes from a place of just being
1:02:32able to give back to this industry
1:02:34that's given so much and so obviously as
1:02:37you get to the point where this book
1:02:38gets ready to go, there will be some
1:02:40promotion on the front end where I know
1:02:42Andrew will be back here to talk a
1:02:44little more and in a more detail on some
1:02:46of these things, but
1:02:48same questions and thank you Andrew for
1:02:50staying a little extra time here. I mean
1:02:52look, you know majority of the folks
1:02:53that were on here and listen, I want to
1:02:55give a shout out to all of the companies
1:02:57that let me know they're doing sales
1:02:59meetings. I do appreciate when you guys
1:03:02send me the photo of 30, 40 agents
1:03:04sitting there
1:03:05in a conference room and then having
1:03:08those conversations that you have after
1:03:09the fact, after we turn this off, those
1:03:12local conversations and that master
1:03:14minding that happens after this. So just
1:03:16thank you to those that are doing that
1:03:17as well because uh it's just such a big
1:03:19part of this. So, um all right, I'll be
1:03:21quiet, Sam.
1:03:22>> Yeah. Well, hey, I saw a bunch of
1:03:24questions. I'm going to start answering
1:03:25a couple of them, Sam, if you don't
1:03:26mind.
1:03:26>> go for it.
1:03:27>> But before I do,
1:03:29if you got any value out of this, do me
1:03:31a favor cuz look, Jimmy Burgess, I got
1:03:33to give you your flowers, too, my man.
1:03:35I was just a guy Berkshire acquired us.
1:03:37I was selling a bunch of houses at
1:03:38Remax. He put Jimmy's the first person
1:03:41in my entire career and I've been able
1:03:42to do it quite a bit in the last few
1:03:43years and no one really cares and I
1:03:45understand that.
1:03:46But Jimmy was the first person who
1:03:49pulled me aside and says, "I think
1:03:51people need to hear what you have to
1:03:52say."
1:03:53He invites me down to his Beach
1:03:55Properties of Florida conference, big
1:03:56conference, and says, "I want you to
1:03:58give a talk." No one's ever asked me to
1:04:00do that. I was scared shitless.
1:04:02He put me on.
1:04:04So, Jimmy, you started me on this path
1:04:06because you
1:04:07you've been so good.
1:04:09And that's why it made sense to me not
1:04:11to get into the politics. Of course,
1:04:12you're going to go to REAL cuz you're
1:04:13going to build this awesome thing cuz
1:04:14you're the best person at a spotting and
1:04:17nurturing talent. You've always been
1:04:20that way and we're so glad to have you
1:04:22back and it comes from a place of care.
1:04:24You're going to notice Jimmy Jimmy
1:04:25doesn't talk about Jimmy. Jimmy's done
1:04:27incredible things in this business you
1:04:29don't even know about. You don't even
1:04:30know how he got started
1:04:32cuz that's not what he's about.
1:04:34And that's the spirit of a lot of the
1:04:36people I've came to know at this network
1:04:38and it's rare.
1:04:40It's just rare. So, I'm happy to be
1:04:43here.
1:04:43>> Amen.
1:04:45Now, let me let me say this, too,
1:04:46because I want to
1:04:47and look, this is not a pat each other
1:04:49on the back, but what I do want to say
1:04:50is is I've never seen anyone
1:04:52the way that Andrew when he walks in a
1:04:54room because he and I have now been
1:04:56we've traveled together. We've we've
1:04:57done we've been conferences together now
1:04:59for years. Um I've never seen anyone
1:05:02that identifies at every single event
1:05:05that he goes to and I know he does it on
1:05:07the local level as well where he he
1:05:09says, "That's the person that I don't
1:05:11know that I can learn the most from
1:05:14at this conference,
1:05:15I'm going to position myself to build a
1:05:18relationship with that person and I'm
1:05:21going to start it here. Andrew sent me a
1:05:22photo last week. Who are you with last
1:05:25week in Charleston that you that you
1:05:26spotted and you did that with?
1:05:28>> Oh god, I was with Brian Buffini.
1:05:30>> Was it Brian Buffini?
1:05:34>> Oh god. First of all, I love Buffini. I
1:05:36love Tom Ferry. I love all these guys.
1:05:38Because if you're in the industry, man,
1:05:40Buffini.
1:05:41I can I
1:05:42I go up to Brian Buffini. I see him on
1:05:44stage. I'm front row. Love what he had
1:05:45to say and I spot him.
1:05:47Well, I like what Jimmy said. When I go
1:05:49to an event, I'm going to get in your
1:05:50face. Oh, I'm going to get you. How do
1:05:52you think I was at Serhant's office? Why
1:05:53do you think Why do you think Gino's
1:05:55taking me to the shareholder meeting?
1:05:56Because I do it on purpose. I'm selling
1:05:58them. I know what their job is.
1:06:00I know what my job is.
1:06:02But I'll I'll save that Buffini story
1:06:03for another time, but it was great and I
1:06:05what I told him, I whispered some
1:06:07beautiful things into his ear, totally
1:06:09prepared, totally new work. And he said,
1:06:12"Andrew, you just made my entire trip to
1:06:14Charleston worthwhile. Thank you so
1:06:15much."
1:06:17>> They're not going to forget how you make
1:06:18them feel.
1:06:19And Andrew does that. And look, this is
1:06:21a lesson for all of you. As you're at
1:06:23local events, if you're at a Chamber of
1:06:25Commerce event, if you're at a charity
1:06:27golf event in your local market, if
1:06:29you're at a tee ball game with your kids
1:06:31and there's someone there,
1:06:33do the research and make it personal.
1:06:36You remember Andrew what you you were
1:06:38texting me cuz listen, this is something
1:06:39that I've learned and I've tried to
1:06:41refine from you. I remember at a
1:06:43convention
1:06:45we had the video or I sent you the video
1:06:47of me
1:06:48with Tim McGraw and you said, "What did
1:06:50you say to him?" And I text you back
1:06:51personally what I said to him and you
1:06:53said, "I knew it. I knew it. I could
1:06:55tell. I could tell there was something
1:06:56you made a personal connection with
1:06:58him."
1:06:59And so, I think that's a skill that we
1:07:01all should be developing is that
1:07:04understanding who the folks are that you
1:07:07want to surround yourself with, that you
1:07:09have the ability to give value to, but
1:07:11that also you know are going to help
1:07:12make you a better person.
1:07:14Um find a way, learn that skill. I mean,
1:07:17if you don't take anything away from
1:07:19this, but just an understanding of how
1:07:20to identify folks that you can bring
1:07:23value to, but also that you know are
1:07:25going to bring value to you in a way
1:07:26that you can learn from them, um and how
1:07:29to approach that group, um and that's a
1:07:30skill that Andrew's is good as anybody
1:07:32I've ever seen at. So,
1:07:33>> Hey, well, look at that contract. The
1:07:36only time we get to paid in this
1:07:37industry, the only time we get any money
1:07:40is we go to the settlement table.
1:07:42So, let's start with why don't you be
1:07:44good at talking to a buyer who already
1:07:46wants to buy the freaking house?
1:07:48That's how we get good at talking to a
1:07:50seller who already wants to turn that
1:07:52asset into cash.
1:07:54>> Right.
1:07:55Right. Yes.
1:07:57>> Cuz that's where all the money is.
1:07:59It's in the sales thing. You don't get
1:08:02You If I could collect views, if I could
1:08:05deposit views, and you know, there's a
1:08:06way to monetize that, but not like a not
1:08:08like selling a house. Nothing pays like
1:08:10selling the houses. So, if I could just
1:08:13beat this into you,
1:08:15guys,
1:08:16let's just focus on selling the houses.
1:08:18And your AI blog and all the other
1:08:20stuff, which I do all that, it can wait.
1:08:24Right. This is the skill, what we talked
1:08:26about today. That's the skill. But is
1:08:28there any questions? I got to jump in
1:08:29and
1:08:30>> Sam, yeah, Sam, absolutely. I want to
1:08:32see if there's a Let's just do two
1:08:34questions if we can.
1:08:35Um just to give you a preview cuz we are
1:08:37about developing the skills.
1:08:39Um I don't know I don't think we've
1:08:40talked about this, Andrew, but our
1:08:41mutual friend, who's probably one of the
1:08:43best at being able to have um how to
1:08:46answer the questions that are happening
1:08:48right now in a skillful way, Byron Lozen
1:08:50is going to be with us next week. Um one
1:08:52of the best in the business at being
1:08:54able to script things. Um this will be
1:08:56his first time with us on this um next
1:08:58week, and I'm super excited to have him
1:09:00here. So, um just know that next week
1:09:03we're going to develop these skills even
1:09:04further as we go through. Sam, I'll let
1:09:05you ask the questions.
1:09:08>> Andrew, so when you're with a a luxury
1:09:11buyer or a buyer who thinks that they
1:09:15know a lot more than maybe you, how do
1:09:18you adjust, if at all, your approach and
1:09:21and and and and your timing and what you
1:09:23say?
1:09:24>> He's so good at this.
1:09:25>> Well, that's
1:09:27Here's the thing. I do believe a lot of
1:09:28times they do know more than you.
1:09:30>> Right. Exactly.
1:09:32>> you have to accept that. And you have to
1:09:35understand what role am I going to play
1:09:36in the situation?
1:09:39You never you never want to argue.
1:09:41You're never going to create friction
1:09:43with the client.
1:09:44>> Right.
1:09:45>> That's That's That's pushy.
1:09:47So, you have to just accept. You're
1:09:49again, you're gathering everything cuz
1:09:51to move through that chain of sale,
1:09:55if that makes you uncomfortable, whoa,
1:09:57this guy
1:09:58you're out. Okay? You're not in relaxed
1:10:00concentration anymore.
1:10:03If they don't think
1:10:04you're saying and they're convinced
1:10:05they're smarter than you,
1:10:07no, you take that in, of course.
1:10:09Tactical empathy.
1:10:11Tell me more about that. Seems like
1:10:12you've already researched this. All
1:10:14we're trying to do is connect with them.
1:10:16Once the connection's there, people love
1:10:19to open up after they feel like they're
1:10:21understood.
1:10:22That's a seven laws Stephen Covey famous
1:10:25book, which is people seek first to
1:10:27understand then be understood.
1:10:30>> Mhm.
1:10:30>> understand where this person's coming
1:10:32from.
1:10:33And you agree with them. I don't
1:10:35And and there's an art
1:10:37to disagreeing without being
1:10:38disagreeable.
1:10:40Cuz we've all been in the situation.
1:10:41They think they know they're saying dumb
1:10:44You don't get to jump in and correct
1:10:45people cuz people don't like it. And if
1:10:48you know what your job is, which is to
1:10:50maintain your state, be comfortable,
1:10:52be caring,
1:10:54be curious, connect,
1:10:56you focus there. And if you stay there,
1:10:59you stay in the pocket, eventually
1:11:02you're going to have your turn if you
1:11:03have the guts to establish control,
1:11:04which is simply "Hey, I totally
1:11:06understand. So, you said this, this.
1:11:08Okay, this is what you think's going to
1:11:09happen." Got it. Got it. And this price
1:11:11point, totally good point. I'm stroking
1:11:13them.
1:11:15>> Mhm.
1:11:15>> Um if it's okay with you, I just want to
1:11:17share a couple pieces of my perspective
1:11:19on this to see if you know, we're
1:11:21aligned on a strategy moving forward, if
1:11:23that's okay. And then from then from
1:11:25there we can just decide if maybe we
1:11:26take a next step, but
1:11:28See the body language? I'm not coming at
1:11:30you. Everyone agrees to that. And then
1:11:33when you showcase how you see the world,
1:11:36first of all, better be freaking good.
1:11:38And this is why you have to be prepared
1:11:40cuz and I said this on the last one, you
1:11:41win through preparation or reputation.
1:11:44>> Yep.
1:11:45>> You don't have to be prepared if it's a
1:11:48referral or they already love you and
1:11:50it's a come list me. But in those
1:11:51situations, and that's why it's a good
1:11:52question.
1:11:54It's so easy for us to get knocked off
1:11:56our center because we're not trained on
1:11:58this.
1:12:00You will go back to your default mode of
1:12:03God knows what, which is a combination
1:12:05of how you're raised and your lived
1:12:06experience and all this stuff.
1:12:08Unless you know where to come back to.
1:12:11That that's sales training in and of
1:12:13itself. And that's why I went on that
1:12:15diatribe at the beginning cuz no one
1:12:16talks about that in the in this
1:12:18industry. In other industries, oh man.
1:12:20You want to sell 5,000 machines to the
1:12:23Pentagon?
1:12:25And you're dealing with multiple
1:12:26different buyers in a complex
1:12:27environment. You think they're going to
1:12:29let you do that if you
1:12:31They think it's too expensive and you
1:12:32just fall over and puke on yourself?
1:12:35That's why I don't even
1:12:35>> [snorts]
1:12:35>> talk about objections. If you do this
1:12:38right, you're not going to get many.
1:12:40And when you do, the objections
1:12:42>> Yeah, it's just like the objections you
1:12:44get are just them seeking further
1:12:47understanding that lives in your
1:12:48expertise.
1:12:50And that's why hydraulics, so an
1:12:52artifact and you leave that with them.
1:12:54Here's all the components of value and
1:12:56what you're looking at is my expertise
1:12:59around a process that gets you a result.
1:13:03We showcased complexity, we delivered
1:13:05simplicity.
1:13:07>> Right.
1:13:08>> Yes. That's so good. Last question Sam,
1:13:11anything last question and then uh
1:13:12>> I think you end on that. I that that was
1:13:15absolutely outstanding. There's for
1:13:17today there's nothing that'll beat that.
1:13:19Thank you.
1:13:19>> hey, there's another question I want to
1:13:21answer is someone said, "How do I
1:13:22practice?"
1:13:24Fair question.
1:13:26You'll never ever get good at doing
1:13:29anything in a classroom.
1:13:31My opinion I don't role play.
1:13:34People accuse me all the time Jimmy,
1:13:35"You practice this stuff in the mirror.
1:13:37You I've And I'm not saying don't do it
1:13:39cuz we're all different. We're different
1:13:41and just own it. What works for Jimmy is
1:13:44different than what's works for me, it's
1:13:46different than what works for Sam.
1:13:48You have to know you.
1:13:51So, how you practice it is you try and
1:13:52you fail and you try and you fail and
1:13:54you decide if you have the guts to keep
1:13:55going or not.
1:13:57Okay?
1:13:57>> Yeah.
1:13:58>> But the overarching piece is you're
1:14:00going to teach yourself this. The
1:14:01information's out there.
1:14:03If you there's nothing more powerful
1:14:05than a made up mind. If you decide
1:14:09to to
1:14:11go on the journey, "I want to master
1:14:12that."
1:14:14That's the only way
1:14:16you're going to get through it. Cuz if
1:14:17it's a maybe, if it's a nice, if it's a
1:14:19how to, it's fun today but tomorrow
1:14:20you're going to go back to doing that
1:14:21whatever you were doing.
1:14:23Fine.
1:14:24But you have to commit.
1:14:26You want to practice this stuff?
1:14:28You're going to buy this book
1:14:30and you're going to buy 500 copies for
1:14:32your offices. Jimmy, you're going to buy
1:14:33them for Beach Properties of Florida.
1:14:34Can you commit?
1:14:35>> Yes. You know it. You know it.
1:14:37>> All right. Take a screenshot. Take a
1:14:39screenshot. Tag Jimmy and I so I can put
1:14:41some DMX behind it or whatever I'm
1:14:43feeling and I can share okay? Can we
1:14:45just do that? I got to go sell some real
1:14:47estate, okay?
1:14:48>> Yeah, let's go sell some real estate.
1:14:50Everybody out there, hey, show some love
1:14:53um to Andrew. Obviously, man, it's
1:14:55always such good stuff. Nobody better in
1:14:56the business. So, thank you, Andrew, for
1:14:58the time. Thank you for uh the
1:14:59inspiration, the wisdom, and uh guys,
1:15:02bottom line, take action. Just go take
1:15:04action today, and I'll promise you it'll
1:15:06take care of everything else. Um thanks
1:15:08again, Andrew. Thanks, Sam. Thanks,
1:15:10Savage. Thanks, Chris uh for dropping
1:15:12knowledge right out the gate, and uh we
1:15:14will see you guys next week. Take care,
1:15:16everybody.
1:15:17>> Nothing else pays.