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0:00In a study of what makes some comic book

0:02creators more likely to produce

0:04blockbusters, researchers tracked

0:06creators across 234 different

0:08publishers, and they looked at

0:10everything that you might think matters.

0:12The years of experience in the field,

0:14the resources of the publisher, even the

0:16number of previous comics that a creator

0:19had made. None of that predicted who was

0:21most likely to have a hit. High

0:23repetition, doing a lot of the same kind

0:25of comic over and over, actually had a

0:27negative association with creative

0:29performance. The single biggest

0:30predictor of who would produce a

0:31blockbuster comic was the number of

0:34different genres that a creator [music]

0:36had worked across. The more genres a

0:38creator had touched, the better their

0:40odds of producing something truly

0:43original. And here's the part that

0:45really surprised me. Teams of

0:47specialists were good, but individual

0:49creators who worked across four or more

0:51genres outperformed entire teams of

0:54specialists. So, a broad individual

0:57couldn't just be replaced by a team of

0:59specialists from different areas. The

1:01study's title gives it away: Superman or

1:04The Fantastic Four. The answer was both

1:08are good, but Superman is better. One

1:10person with range [music] was more

1:12creatively powerful than a group of

1:14narrow experts who were combined. Now,

1:17I've spent years researching this

1:19pattern for my book Range, and across

1:21hundreds of studies in science, sports,

1:24music, and business, the comic book

1:26finding is not an isolated result. It's

1:28really the tip of a much larger body of

1:30evidence about where creative

1:32breakthroughs come from, and why the

1:35most impactful creatives often look

1:38nothing like the specialists that we're

1:40told we should become. So, we probably

1:43don't produce as many of these people as

1:44we could, because early on, frankly,

1:47they just look like they're behind. And

1:49we don't tend to incentivize anything

1:50that doesn't look like a head start or

1:52specialization. Let me tell you about

1:54two musicians who came up in the same

1:56place at the same time, but ended up in

1:59completely different places. It's the

2:01late 1960s and early 70s. The London

2:03rock scene is exploding and two young

2:06artists are right in the thick of it.

2:08Peter Frampton and David Bowie.

2:11Frampton found his lane early. He was a

2:13guitar prodigy. He was a teen heartthrob

2:15and by 1976 he'd released Frampton Comes

2:18Alive, one of the best-selling live

2:20albums in history. It was a defining

2:22moment in arena rock.

2:24>> [music]

2:24>> It was massive, immediate and undeniable

2:27success.

2:28And then creatively he kind of

2:30disappeared. He kept making records, but

2:33the cultural moment passed and he didn't

2:35really have anything new to offer to

2:37meet the changing moment. He'd built his

2:39career on one mode and when that mode

2:41stopped resonating with people there was

2:43nowhere else for him to go.

2:45Bowie, meanwhile, was a commercial mess

2:48early on.

2:49He was doing folk songs and novelty pop,

2:51glam, soul, electronic, ambient, art

2:54rock.

2:55He was constantly reinventing [music]

2:57himself and kind of confusing audiences,

2:59frankly. Fans he'd gained with one

3:01identity might be alienated by the next.

3:03By any short-term measure it basically

3:06looked like career sabotage, but that

3:08genre hopping is exactly what gave him a

3:1140-plus year career of creative

3:13relevance.

3:14Ziggy Stardust, Low, Let's Dance, his

3:18work with Brian Eno, the Tin Machine

3:20detour that everyone hated at the time,

3:22and then a late career renaissance with

3:25Blackstar, released two days before his

3:28death that critics called a masterpiece.

3:30Frampton peaked once and then he faded.

3:33Bowie never stopped evolving.

3:35So, what explains the difference? Justin

3:38Berg, a researcher at Stanford who

3:40studies organizational behavior, became

3:42fascinated by this exact question. Why

3:45are some creators shooting stars that

3:47burn out quickly while others are able

3:49to sustain success over decades?

3:52So, he ran a massive study analyzing

3:54nearly 70,000 artists and 3 million

3:57songs, tracking who had zero hits,

4:00[music] who was a one-hit wonder,

4:02and who managed to produce hit after hit

4:04over time. [music]

4:05And he found two key dimensions that

4:07predicted sustained creative success:

4:10[music] novelty

4:12and variety.

4:13Here's the cruel irony he uncovered.

4:16Novelty in your early work is actually a

4:18negative predictor of initial success.

4:21If your early stuff is weird and

4:23different from what's popular at the

4:24time, you're less likely to get your

4:27first hit.

4:28But, and this is the critical part, if

4:30you do manage to break through with a

4:32novel portfolio,

4:34that same novelty becomes the engine of

4:36sustained success. It makes you more

4:38adaptable,

4:40gives you more to draw from, and it

4:41teaches you more than a conventional

4:43portfolio really ever could. And

4:46variety, [music]

4:46the range of different things that

4:48you've tried, offsets the risk of

4:51novelty. So, if you try lots of

4:53different novel things, the odds that at

4:54least one of them connects goes up.

4:57And this is probably why in study after

4:59study of creatives, those who succeed

5:02also have more failures than their

5:04peers. They have more successes, but

5:05more failures, too, because they're just

5:07trying a lot of different things. Burgh

5:09identified two mechanisms. The first is

5:12internal learning. So, you've simply

5:15learned more from that broad, novel

5:17portfolio than you would have from doing

5:19the same kind of thing over and over

5:20again. The second element that Burgh

5:22identified is external expectations.

5:25Once you break through,

5:26the outside world sees you as an

5:28innovator, not a one-trick pony.

5:30Studios, labels, publishers, they give

5:33you more creative freedom, not less.

5:36And that's exactly what happened with

5:37Bowie. His early genre hopping wasn't a

5:40lack of direction, that was his [music]

5:41education.

5:43Each reinvention taught him something

5:45different. And when he did break

5:46through,

5:48nobody tried to pigeonhole him. The

5:49world saw him as someone who could do

5:51anything and kept giving him freedom to

5:53prove it. Frampton became the arena rock

5:55guy. His reputation was narrow and his

5:58creative range was narrow. And when the

5:59world moved on from what he was known

6:01for,

6:02he didn't really have anything left to

6:03draw from. What Bowie discovered

6:05intuitively, and what Berg documented

6:07throughout the music industry, it shows

6:09up again and again when you look at the

6:11actual research on where creative

6:13breakthroughs come from. Now, let me

6:15share a more interesting study on over

6:1718 million research papers. Brian Uzzi,

6:20a sociologist at Northwestern

6:22University, with his colleagues analyzed

6:2418 million scientific papers.

6:27They wanted to understand what makes a

6:29paper a hit,

6:30a breakthrough that can reshape a field.

6:33And the pattern they found was striking.

6:35The most impactful papers featured

6:37mostly conventional combinations of

6:39knowledge, the kind of thing you'd

6:40expect from specialists,

6:42but plus an injection of unusual

6:45combinations from what was typically

6:47outside the field. He described

6:49creativity as an import-export business

6:51of ideas.

6:53You need enough conventional knowledge

6:54to be credible and to understand the

6:56existing landscape, but the spark, the

6:58thing that elevates work from competent

7:00to groundbreaking, comes from importing

7:03something unexpected from somewhere else

7:05into that conventional [music]

7:06knowledge. And he found that teams with

7:08far-flung members, so people from

7:10different institutions, different

7:11countries, different disciplinary

7:13backgrounds, were more likely to produce

7:15those hit papers. Scientists who had

7:18worked abroad were also more likely to

7:19make a greater impact. The diversity of

7:22experience, it wasn't just nice to have,

7:24it was the mechanism of breakthrough.

7:26The lab that couldn't solve its own

7:28problem. Kevin Dunbar, a psychologist,

7:30did something really clever.

7:33He spent 4 years recording the weekly

7:35lab meetings of multiple biology labs.

7:39He wanted to watch creativity happen in

7:41real time, not just study it after the

7:43fact, but actually observe how

7:45scientists respond when something

7:47unexpected shows up in their work.

7:50And what he found was that labs with

7:52researchers from diverse professional

7:54backgrounds

7:56made more varied analogies when

7:58confronted with surprising findings.

8:00They were more reliably able to produce

8:02breakthroughs because when something

8:04didn't go as expected, someone from a

8:06different background could say to their

8:08colleague, "Oh, you know, that reminds

8:10me of something from my field." One lab

8:12in particular had all E. coli

8:14specialists. They were brilliant people

8:16with deep expertise, but that expertise

8:19was all in the same narrow area. When

8:21they ran into a problem that had to do

8:22with a protein filter in this case, they

8:24had to spend weeks experimenting, just

8:26trial and error, and they were unable to

8:27crack it. Meanwhile,

8:29>> [music]

8:29>> another lab that Dunbar was observing,

8:31it had members from chemistry, physics,

8:34biology, genetics, and a med student. It

8:37was a much more diverse group, and they

8:38hit the exact same problem at about the

8:42same time, and they solved it almost

8:44immediately in a lab meeting that same

8:46day. The med student made an analogy

8:48from clinical practice,

8:50and that was that. The specialist lab

8:52barely used any analogies at all. Dunbar

8:55found one lab that really didn't produce

8:56new findings at all was the one where

8:58everyone had the same specialized

9:00backgrounds. So, as he told me,

9:03"When you have all people with the same

9:04background, it's often not that much

9:07better than having just one brain." The

9:09only person to win both an Ig Nobel and

9:11a Nobel. There's a physicist named Andre

9:13Geim who holds a distinction that no one

9:16else on Earth can claim. Maybe some

9:17people wouldn't even want to. He is the

9:19only person in history to have won both

9:21an Ig Nobel Prize

9:23and the Nobel Prize.

9:25For those unfamiliar, the Ig Nobel is a

9:27satirical prize given for research that

9:30makes you laugh and then makes you

9:31think. It's for the year's silliest

9:32research. When you win, you get a

9:35sculpture of Rodin's The Thinker, but

9:36it's tipped off its pedestal lying on

9:38the ground. Geim won his for levitating

9:40a frog using strong electromagnets.

9:42That's right, a real frog floating in

9:45midair. So, that won the year's silliest

9:48research. His Nobel Prize came for

9:50something different, isolating graphene,

9:53the world's first single-atom-thick

9:56material that has extraordinary

9:58properties of strength and electrical

10:00conductivity

10:01and enormous practical applications.

10:03>> [music]

10:03>> It's one of the most important material

10:05discoveries in modern science. What

10:07connects these two achievements is

10:08Geim's creative process. He had what he

10:11called Friday evening experiments in his

10:13lab that everyone participated in. On

10:15Friday [music] nights, when the formal

10:17work week was over,

10:18he would pursue whatever curiosity

10:20struck him.

10:21No goals, no funding applications, no

10:24predetermined direction, just what

10:26happens if we try this interesting

10:28thing. And it was during one of those

10:30Friday evening experiments [music] that

10:31he and his colleagues were ripping thin

10:33strips of graphite pencil lead with

10:36Scotch tape.

10:37And that's what led to the discovery of

10:39graphene. Seems [music] silly,

10:41led to a world-changing breakthrough.

10:43Both his Ig Nobel and his Nobel Prize

10:46came from these wandering, playful

10:49Friday sessions. As Geim said, he

10:51eagerly accepted the Ig Nobel Prize.

10:53>> [music]

10:53>> The Ig Nobel Committee actually asks

10:55scientists if they want to take it

10:57before they get it because they might be

11:00worried about reputational damage, but

11:01Geim accepted it eagerly. So, that

11:03breakthrough didn't come from his

11:05official, focused, funded research

11:07agenda. It was from the stuff on the

11:09margins, the side quests. Similarly, the

11:11Nobel laureate Frances Arnold, who won

11:13for her work in chemistry, made a really

11:15similar point when she was asked, after

11:17winning the Nobel Prize, about where she

11:19thinks breakthroughs come from. And she

11:21said that the biggest opportunities in

11:23science lie at [music] the interfaces

11:25between fields. She was actually being

11:27asked if she was self-conscious about

11:30not being a specialist. And this was her

11:32being interviewed after she won the

11:33Nobel Prize.

11:35Arnold is an engineer by training and in

11:37the early 1980s, she realized that she

11:39could take optimization methods that she

11:41knew from engineering and combine them

11:44with molecular biology to solve problems

11:45in chemistry. Everyone thought it was

11:47nuts. It was completely outside what

11:49people were doing deeply in any one of

11:51those fields.

11:52But after decades of applications,

11:54it proved [music] to be extraordinary.

11:57As Arnold put it, she couldn't have done

11:59it without collaborating with domain

12:01experts. But the breakthrough itself

12:03came from bridging the gap between them.

12:06The polymath pattern. I got really

12:08interested in 3M, which is a company

12:10that you may know for Post-it notes,

12:12because when I used to read these annual

12:13world innovation rankings, 3M was

12:16usually near the top. The other company

12:18names you'd recognize, Apple, Google,

12:20etc. And then 3M would be third, fourth,

12:23or fifth. I realized as I looked into it

12:25that the company has to make a quarter

12:27of its revenue every year from products

12:29that did not exist 5 years ago. They

12:32make tons of different stuff. It's far

12:33beyond Post-it notes. And they did an

12:35internal study operationalizing how

12:38broad or specialized each of their 7,000

12:41inventors actually was.

12:44And that was based on the number of

12:45different technology classes, as

12:47classified by the patent office,

12:48[clears throat]

12:49that those inventors had worked in. And

12:51they found four types of different

12:53inventors at the company. There were the

12:55generalists who had worked across many

12:57areas.

12:58There were specialists who had gone deep

13:00into one. And then there were what you

13:02might call dabblers. They were not that

13:04broad or that deep and they didn't

13:06usually contribute that much. And then

13:07there were the polymaths.

13:09The polymaths would go to a certain

13:11level of depth in one area, then they

13:12would kind of come up for air and go to

13:14that level of depth in another different

13:16area, and then another different area,

13:18and would often end up connecting those

13:20areas where they had some depth. They

13:22were building what one 3M scientist

13:24called a mosaic. Each piece of expertise

13:26informing the others, creating

13:28connections that no pure specialist

13:31could see. The biggest creative

13:32contributions at 3M came from those

13:34polymaths.

13:36Not the generalists, although they did

13:37contribute. Not the specialists,

13:39although they also contributed. The

13:41people who had done both, who had that

13:43depth and [music] breadth. But at a

13:45certain point they would sacrifice even

13:46more and more depth to make sure that

13:48they were connecting different areas.

13:49When I was researching 3M, I spent time

13:51talking to an inventor named Jayashree

13:53Seth. Now, she won the highest award

13:57there is for female engineers, the

13:59lifetime achievement award.

14:00>> [music]

14:00>> And she described herself to me as

14:02exactly that kind of person. A range

14:05person in a highly specialized world.

14:07She actually described her process

14:09>> [music]

14:09>> as mosaic building. She would go around

14:12and talk to colleagues working in

14:14different spaces. And when she realized

14:16they were orbiting a similar problem,

14:18she would bring them together and make

14:20them a pitch for why they should all

14:22work together on something that would be

14:23beneficial for all of them. And she said

14:25it made her super powerful, even though

14:28she was initially self-conscious about

14:30not being a specialist in any area,

14:33because she zigged away from what she

14:34had actually studied for her PhD.

14:36You see this in architecture, too. Frank

14:38Gehry, arguably, maybe inarguably, the

14:41most famous living architect, had a long

14:43wilderness period before his

14:45breakthrough.

14:47He drew from sculpture,

14:48furniture design, even fish forms.

14:51>> [music]

14:51>> And when he finally broke through with

14:53the Guggenheim Bilbao,

14:55it was so transformative that

14:57researchers coined a term for it, the

14:59Bilbao effect, when a single building

15:02reshapes an [music] entire city and its

15:04economic fortunes. That kind of impact,

15:06it doesn't come from staying in one

15:08lane. It comes from the mosaic. Gehry

15:11was a relentless experimenter. He even

15:13experimented on his own house, trying to

15:15test at a small scale things that he

15:17might apply on a large one. Experiment

15:20after experiment. Let me tell you about

15:22one more creator, and this one's a

15:23little different because he actually did

15:25try to specialize, repeatedly actually.

15:27He had incredible work ethic. He worked

15:29as an art dealer until he was basically

15:31fired. Then 14-hour days as a teacher

15:34and a handyman for a school. And then he

15:36became a private tutor. And after the

15:38school, he worked as a bookseller. His

15:40work ethic was insane in everything he

15:43did. He worked at the bookstore from

15:458:00 a.m. to midnight, and he loved

15:46books.

15:47He once single-handedly saved most of

15:50the books in the store during a flood by

15:52physically carrying them to safety for

15:54hours, load by load.

15:56After that, he trained to be a pastor,

15:58staying up all night copying texts and

16:01reminding himself that practice makes

16:02perfect. He put candles

16:04>> [music]

16:04>> in a half-empty water so that he could

16:06study late at night. But Latin and

16:08Greek, they they didn't come easily to

16:10him, and he flamed out.

16:12He eventually became an itinerant

16:13preacher in the coal country.

16:16That didn't really work out, either.

16:18Each time he found something new, he

16:19decided it was his true calling. He'd

16:21write to his parents and say, "You'll

16:22never have to worry about me again. I

16:23found my calling."

16:25And then each time he would flame out

16:26spectacularly. Finally, nearing the age

16:29of 30 with kind of no possessions and no

16:31achievements to his name, he picked up a

16:33book called The Guide to the ABCs of

16:36Drawing. It was written for kids, and he

16:38started drawing the life he saw around

16:40him in the countryside.

16:41That man is Vincent van Gogh.

16:44And even once he started painting and

16:46drawing, progress [music] came

16:48incredibly slowly. He experimented like

16:50crazy. At one point, he decided that all

16:53color was just shades of black, and he

16:55would only paint in shades of black, no

16:57color.

16:58Then he completely reversed that and

16:59decided there is no black in nature,

17:01only shades of other colors.

17:03Then he decided to paint only figures,

17:05people. That's what an artist should do.

17:07And then turn around and abandon that

17:08completely when it turned out he wasn't

17:09great at it.

17:10He dove from one experiment to the next

17:13until finally

17:14he combined them to create a style

17:17completely unique to the world, and then

17:20he exploded.

17:22Everything you've ever seen, most

17:24likely, that he created, Starry Night,

17:26the sunflowers, all of it, was from the

17:28last 2 years of his life, when he

17:30combined [music] his experiments into

17:32something no one had ever seen before,

17:34and became a bridge from classical to

17:36modern art.

17:38Those weren't detours. They were

17:40training to create [music]

17:41a style that was uniquely his own.

17:44The creative cliff illusion. There's one

17:46more piece of research I want to leave

17:47you with, because I think it explains

17:49why so many creatives give up on breadth

17:52too early. There's a phenomenon

17:53researchers have identified called the

17:55creative cliff illusion.

17:58It's the belief that your best ideas

17:59come quickly, [music] in a flash of

18:01insight, or that they won't come at all.

18:03Most people assume that if something

18:05didn't come to them right away in a

18:06flash of inspiration, they should move

18:09on.

18:10But the research shows the opposite. The

18:12best ideas tend to come later in

18:14brainstorming, not right away. We quit

18:17too early. We abandon the messy

18:19exploration phase before the connections

18:21have had time to form. Don't assume that

18:23if something didn't come to you with

18:24that flash of insight that you should

18:25just stop thinking about it. That's the

18:27illusion. The cliff isn't real.

18:29Keep going. So, if you're a creative

18:31person and you feel pressured to niche

18:33down, to pick a lane and stay in it,

18:36I want you to consider the possibility

18:37that the pressure itself may be a

18:39problem, may be counterproductive for

18:41you. The comic book creators who worked

18:43across the most genres eventually

18:45produced the biggest hits. The musicians

18:46who confused everyone with their

18:48reinventions often outlasted the more

18:50narrow specialists, like the arena rock

18:52king, by decades in some cases. The

18:55physicist who played on Friday nights

18:56won the Nobel Prize. The engineer who

18:59wandered into biology won one, too. The

19:01scientists who drew from the widest

19:02range of backgrounds and got together in

19:05a team solved problems that teams of

19:06specialists just couldn't crack. The

19:08architect who pulled from sculpture and

19:10furniture design built a building that

19:12transformed a city. The painter who

19:14failed at everything he did, failed

19:16again and again and again and again and

19:18again five different careers.

19:21And then he found painting and changed

19:23[music] how we think about beauty

19:24itself. Your scattered interests aren't

19:27a weakness. Your genre hopping, it's not

19:29necessarily a lack of focus. Your weird

19:32side projects don't have to be

19:33distractions.

19:35They might be exactly the thing that

19:37makes your work unlike anyone else's. If

19:40you like this topic, you're probably

19:41going to like my book Range, why

19:43generalists triumph in a specialized

19:45world. It expands on all these topics

19:47with more stories and more [music]

19:48research. But before you go buy that, I

19:51created a free PDF summary of the entire

19:54book that you can go download in the

19:56link in my description for free. Thanks

19:58so much for watching. If you like this

20:00video, there's another one I made right

20:02here.

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