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0:02Hello everyone. Welcome to Prometheian
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0:07My name is Adam Sturman. I'm a producer
0:10here with Prometheian Action joined with
0:12the lovely Barbara Boyd and Susan Kinda.
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0:41So, Barbara, today we're going to be
0:44discussing a lot more of the political
0:46dynamics as we move into the midterm.
0:48Susan's going to be talking about it,
0:51but I believe you had something special
0:53prepared for our audience this morning.
Barbara's Open: "There's Been a Major Arrest"
0:58Hot damn for all you guys out there.
0:59There's been a major arrest and we're
1:02going to talk about it.
1:08[snorts]
1:13Okay. So, what do we got?
1:16>> All right. So yesterday the former
1:18intelligence director and financial
1:21director of the SPLC for our
1:24international audience who don't know uh
1:27what this is the SPLC
1:30uh you know basically is the centerpiece
1:34of the private intelligence operation in
1:36the United States directed at Donald
1:38Trump and has been ever since this
1:42wonderful event we had here in the
1:43United States called Charlottesville.
1:46which many people may remember was a big
1:49fight between people they said was, you
1:53know, she's she's wonderful looking. She
1:55looks the part, doesn't she? Um I hate
1:57to criticize people's looks, but when I
1:59saw her, I just said, "Wow, that sort of
2:01makes sense." Um, at any rate, um,
2:05[laughter]
2:05the the woman you see there was running
2:10informants who were actually informants
2:13in the only remaining very small uh, you
2:17know, right-wing groups in the United
2:18States like the Klux Clan, which
2:20wouldn't exist in my view if it weren't
2:23for this woman and the SPLC. What they
2:25were doing was they were pumping money
2:29into these groups to keep them alive and
2:32then they were turning around and saying
2:34to their donors, "Hey guys, there's
2:36these major terrorist racist operations
2:38in the United States linked to Donald
2:41Trump and we at the SPOC have to stop
2:44them." and they set up the whole
2:47Charlottesville rally uh where a lady
2:50got killed and essentially what happened
2:53was you had a bunch of neo-Nazis and
2:55right-wingers and then you had a bunch
2:57of counterprotesters and there was a
2:59riot and what happened in August 2017,
3:02President Trump come out and said there
3:05were decent people who were there
3:07protesting about taking down the statute
3:09of Roberty Lee, which was the
3:12obstensible reason for all of this
3:14protesting. He said, "What are we going
3:16to do? Are we going to take down George
3:17Washington's statute because he had he
3:20was a slave owner? Uh, let's where does
3:22this end?" And he basically said, "There
3:26were horrible people who were Nazis and
3:28neo-Nazis, and I condemn them, but you
3:31have to look at the other side." And
3:34what happened out of that is Joe Biden,
3:37Barack Obama, and that whole nest took
3:39the president's words that there were
3:42good people on both sides of this riot.
3:45Okay? Completely distorted what he said.
3:49And that became the reason, you won't
3:51believe this, why Joe Biden ran for
3:54president in 2020. His actual campaign
3:58announcement said, "When I saw what
4:01happened there and what Donald Trump
4:03said about it, I decided we were in a
4:06battle for the soul of our nation." It's
4:09probably the most coherent statement
4:11he's made. He's rant there are other
4:13pictures of this during the campaign
4:15where he's literally out there in his
4:17scenile self actually ranting about
4:19Charlottesville at great length. So what
4:22happened is the Justice Department
4:25brought an indictment against the whole
4:27organization and that takes out a big
4:31part of the operation against Trump.
4:33Then in the indictment yesterday, they
4:36indicted the lady who set up all these
4:38false bank accounts paying these
4:40informants. And it turned out she was
4:43actually sleeping with one of them. uh
4:46and she she she took their they took
4:49their money and you know paid for their
4:51personal living expenses out of it
4:53between she and this neo-Nazi. Okay. So
4:57this is just ripe in my opinion and I
5:02think it's going to go pretty far and
5:04you have the whole legal welfare
5:07establishment coming in to defend
5:09against this indictment. Abby Lol. May
5:12many of you out there in other parts of
5:14the country don't know, but you know
5:16Abby Lol is a DC lawyer who's the Biden
5:19family lawyer along with just about
5:21every other politician in DC who ever
5:23gets in trouble. And he's who's taking
5:26on this case to defend the SPLC. It's a
5:30very big deal because these are the
5:33people along with the ADL who define who
5:36are extremists in the United States and
5:40they're the people who actually were
5:42defining MAGA protesters and the MAGA
5:45movement as racists
5:48um you know throughout this entire
5:49period. I wrote about the
5:52Charlottesville thing when it happened
5:54and you know I I said it was really a
5:57complete intelligence community setup
5:59when it happened and I detailed some of
6:02the personnel behind that. Uh but I had
6:06really had no idea that it went this far
6:10um to say the least. So, it's a big deal
6:13and it's in many respects it's an
6:16institutional thing that you're actually
6:18taking out rather than an individual.
6:20This individual just happens to be the
6:23face of the institution. Going back in
6:25time, what happened after
6:27Charlottesville is the SPLC, this
6:30terrible organization,
6:32doubled and tripled its income and
6:37corporate executives and everybody else
6:40throughout the United States was
6:41throwing money at this organization
6:44which was actually building the racist
6:47permit which was going to be used
6:49against the president. All right, so
6:52it's really quite a story.
6:55Thank you, Barbara. And I'd like to give
6:58a big thank you to everyone tuning into
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7:42friends from across the pond. Thank you
7:44so much, Paul, for joining us today. So
7:47Susan, what do you have for our audience
Susan: Detroit's Verdict
7:50this morning?
7:52Well, look, I want to build on that
7:53because uh what the s the Southern
7:57Poverty Law Center story, which is is
7:59just part of British Intelligence's
8:03toolkit
8:04uh to keep people in a box where they
8:07control the ideologies, they control the
8:10cho choices, it's left versus right,
8:13it's Democrat versus Republican, what
8:16whatever what whatever the the binaries
8:19they want to feed you. That's how
8:20they've essentially controlled politics
8:23for a whole lot of the post-war period.
8:26But then along came Donald Trump and
8:28really began to break open that box by
8:32bringing an entirely new element in to
8:36the political process um which is
8:40restoring the American system of
8:42political economy and rebuilding our
8:45middle class and our working class which
8:47then has a particular political aspect
8:51to it which I believe the president is
8:53very conscious of. So last week and over
8:56the course of this week with Barbara and
8:58my uh uh other YouTube shows, we've
9:01we've dug into the question of Abdul
9:05Alied, the Democratic Socialist uh
9:09nominee for Senate here in Michigan. Um
9:12and we've gone into his British and
9:15Imperial bonafides. And I really
9:17encourage people uh to look at what
9:20we've produced. And there's going to be
9:22a whole lot more because again, one of
9:24the other boxes that they want to put
9:26you in is Muslim versus anti-Muslim. Um,
9:30and that is a false box. And I'm going
9:32to say it right up front and I don't
9:34care how many people are upset by that.
9:36There is political radical Islam which
9:38is an arm of British intelligence. It is
9:41extremely dangerous and that's what
9:44Abdul Elsed is part of that larger
9:48apparatus. Um but the the the critical
9:53qu conception is that President Trump is
9:57taking us out of these controlled
9:59choices and it's having a particular
10:01political impact at this moment because
10:04one of the one of the things that we saw
10:07and this is what I'm going to develop
10:08here. One of the things that we saw uh
10:11in the Michigan election which I want
10:13people to be highly conscious of uh is
10:16what happened in the city of Detroit.
10:18Detroit is a city which is like 80%
10:20black. Um, and you know in in in the
10:24Southern Poverty Law Cent's fantasy
10:27world, right, of left versus right, the
10:30people of Detroit who are are the poor,
10:33downtrodden, etc., etc. They're all
10:36going to vote for Abdul Elsed. Wrong.
10:39Uh, here's how the vote worked out. It
10:41was it was primarily a two-way race as
10:44people know. Haley Stevens, the
10:46establishmentbacked Democratic
10:48candidate, and Abdul Elsed. But there
10:50was still a third person on the ballot,
10:52Mallerie McMaro,
10:54uh, who had dropped out and endorsed
10:57Haley Stevens. McMaro and Haley Stevens
11:00are white women. Okay? Uh, white middle
11:03class or upper class women, whatever.
11:05You know, here's El Abdul El Say, the
11:08face of the revolution of the poor and
11:10downtrodden.
11:12Uh Haley Stevens and McMaro got twice as
11:15many votes as El Say in the city of
11:18Detroit. The black voters in the city of
11:20Detroit voted for the two white ladies.
11:23And obviously it had absolutely nothing
11:24to do with the color of anybody's skin
11:27because they reject
11:29this radical insanity
11:32which the elites are pushing at this
11:34particular point. Now, President Trump
11:37was quite conscious of that. Um Whoops.
11:40So, I'm going to share the screen if I
11:41hit the right button.
11:43Oh, come on.
11:46He was quite conscious of that and he uh
11:48he
11:51posted
11:52uh that.
12:04Why am I there? No, wrong one.
12:08There we go. Sorry. I'll do better next
12:10time. Uh he posted that in a truth that
12:13he put out. Uh he said, "Black and brown
12:16voters don't want communism or
12:18socialism. Not surprisingly, they're
12:21flocking to the Republican party. They
12:23remember that Abraham Lincoln was a
12:25Republican president. Uh was a
12:28Republican, President Donald J. Trump.
12:31Um now that that's that's very precise.
12:35That's very important that he said that
12:37because as and as we've been saying all
12:39along, the essence of President Trump's
12:42thrust, what the MAGA movement has to
12:45consciously become, Trump gets it, and
12:47we got to make sure the MAGA movement
12:49gets it is the new Republican party of
12:52Abraham Lincoln. Uh the the the new
12:55Republican party that harks back to
12:58Abraham Lincoln's policies. And of
13:00course, what have we seen in the city of
13:02Detroit and elsewhere? you've had a kind
13:04of automatic knee-jerk nobody ever
13:07thinks about the Republicans. So, um,
13:10Adam, we can stop sharing that or I can
13:13stop sharing that now. Uh, I want Adam
13:16to play, um, and a video excerpt. Uh,
The Mary Waters Clip
13:20let me give it a little bit of
13:21introduction. Uh, this was from the
13:24local news here in Michigan a couple of
13:26days ago. And I think and when I saw
13:28this, I was saying, "Wow, I've never
13:31seen anything represent more powerfully
13:35the potential that we have to completely
13:38reshape politics in the United States
13:40away from these phony divisions, which
13:43is how the empire works, to a
13:46broad-based political movement of people
13:49who want to produce, who want to have a
13:51future, who still love this country,
13:54whatever their skin color, whatever
13:56their religion, if they love this
13:57country. They are part of this
13:59coalition. And I will say it again
14:02because I'm not going to back off on
14:04this. There are many Muslims in this
14:06country who love this country and they
14:09are part of this coalition as well. But
14:11the clip that Adam is about to show you
14:14is one which shows I think something
14:17absolutely amazing happening in the city
14:20of Detroit. Because again, as the
14:23president said, black and brown voters
14:25don't want to be communists or
14:26socialists. So, this is an interview
14:28that one of our local newscasters had
14:30with a uh longtime Detroit city council
14:33woman named Mary Waters who had a very
14:36interesting um breakfast either earlier
14:40that day or the day before. She had
14:42breakfast with the Republican
14:45senatorial candidate. I don't know when
14:48anything like this has happened. So,
14:50Adam, if you could play that clip.
14:56>> You might sense a common theme tonight,
14:58which seems to be a divide in the
15:00Democratic State Party. Well, Detroit
15:03Councilwoman Mary Waters sitting down
15:05with us after talking to Republican Mike
15:07Rogers this morning. So, Mary, thanks
15:10for being here. How was your breakfast
15:12this morning?
15:13>> It was great. It was a great
15:15conversation. And you know, Charlie is
15:17an individual, an elected city council
15:20member representing nearly 700,000
15:24people throughout this city. It was very
15:27important that I took the time to hear
15:30what Mike Rogers had to say, his plans
15:33for the city of Detroit. And he talked
15:36about um the land use plans for that. We
15:39talked we discussed skilled trades. Uh
15:42we discussed um seniors, uh veterans.
15:47Mike Rogers has a plan for all of those
15:49categories. Now, let me tell you, he
15:51says, um Mary, I don't expect to win the
15:55city of Detroit. He said that.
15:57>> Yeah.
15:57>> But at the same time, he says, but I do
16:00want people to know that that I care,
16:03that I want to listen, that I have a
16:05plan.
16:05>> Is this something that did Well, what
16:09you like what you heard? I'm assuming
16:11>> I do like what I heard and I want
16:12Detroititers to be able to hear what
16:15I've heard because because Charlie
16:17listen let me tell you this. We cannot
16:19continue to stay on the same plantation,
16:23Democratic plantation or even Republican
16:26plantation. We have got to allow pe
16:29people hear from other people. here.
16:31What they have to I have to as an
16:34elected official have to make sure that
16:37people know what to expect from all of
16:41the candidates and I want the charters
16:43to hear from them. Now they get to make
16:46up their own mind. Charlie Mary Waters
16:48is not going to do that for them.
16:53>> There's a little bit more Adam. There's
16:55just a little break.
16:56>> The skill trade task force. I created
16:58the first veterans. I I also chaired the
17:01skill trade task force. I created the
17:04first veterans department at the city of
17:06Detroit. We don't treat our veterans
17:09right here, not just here in in in the
17:12city, but not in the state of Michigan,
17:14not even in the country.
17:15>> Why don't Detroititers vote for
17:18Republicans in big numbers?
17:20>> Well, because they've just been
17:21conditioned to voting for for Democrats.
17:24And maybe it's because they can relate
17:26to more of the issues that the Democrats
17:29put out, but I want them to keep an open
17:32mind and look at all of the candidates.
17:36Okay, that's how you break a controlled
17:38environment, right? You just let people
17:41listen to the fact that the person who's
17:44been demonized
17:46is a nice person. And notice the things
17:49that she focused on. She said twice in
17:51there, his his commitment to skilled
17:54trades. Everybody that has followed us
17:57know that this is one of our passions
17:59that the way you rebuild the middle
18:01class and the working class is you
18:03revive the bluecollar jobs, you revive
18:05the skilled trades, you give people the
18:07kind of jobs where one income can raise
18:10a family. That is the story of Detroit.
18:12People in Detroit know that and that's
18:14why they didn't vote for Abdul Elsed.
18:18And I think this is extremely important
18:20going for. I mean, I'm sure people also
18:22notice, get off the plantation, Mary
18:25Waters said, right? You know, you don't
18:28have to be told by your masters any
18:30longer who to vote for. Go think for
18:33yourself. That's all you need in these
18:36circumstances is for people to finally
18:39start to think for themselves. But the
18:41emphasis that she put on the skilled
18:44trades, I think, is extremely important
18:46because this this is the window into the
18:50essential message for the midterm
18:53elections. How do you feat defeat a
18:55socialist communist threat? You defeat
18:57it by showing them the system that
18:59worked, which is not globalization, by
19:01the way. It is the American system of
19:03production. And that's what the
19:05president is doing. I want to share one
19:07more slide uh here.
Trump's Oklahoma Tell
19:11Um, this is something the president
19:13tweeted today and I found it extremely
19:15important that he had done this.
19:20It's an endorsement
19:24of um the Oklahoma governor in the
19:27upcoming governor's race. Um, his name
19:30is Mike Massie, but he's running against
19:33a rhino. And I think it's extremely
19:35important. Uh Trump identifies that his
19:38opponent uh was part of the
19:40anti-American Lincoln project, which is
19:42an anti-Trump project. Uh but then he
19:46highlights that this rhino is trying to
19:50stop the uh uh construction of a here's
19:55Trump's words a he wants to dethrone a
19:58magnificent job producing desperately
20:00needed and brand new aluminum plant that
20:03will be one of the best projects ever
20:05conceived or built not only for the
20:07great state of Oklahoma but in the
20:09United States. it will be one of the
20:11most successful job creating plants ever
20:14built in our country. And the group
20:16that's and and then he says the group
20:18that's trying to shut it down is
20:19extremely wealthy. And if they don't do
20:22it in you uh the the group that wants to
20:25build it is extraordinarily wealthy. If
20:27they don't do it in Oklahoma, they're
20:29going to do it someplace else. And then
20:31again he uses this to endorse very very
20:34strongly um the gubanatorial candidate
20:38who is fighting to uh keep this aluminum
20:41plant going. So, um I think I thought
20:45that was very very important that the
20:48president picked up on a critical
20:51economic issue and in fact in our
20:54current halfpage flyer we highlight that
20:56particular aluminum plant in terms of
20:58the number of jobs and things that it
21:00needs to bring in. I I just want to wrap
21:03up this opening from the standpoint that
21:05it is so stressing it is so important
21:09that that while the president dismantles
21:13the enemy's apparatus whether it's the
21:15Southern Poverty Law Center while they
21:18eviscerate socialism and communism all
21:21of which you need to do that you do not
21:24lose focus on the me the positive
21:27message of the economic renaissance
21:30which is out there because you can see
21:33how that resonated with black voters in
21:35Detroit. And if we do what we have to do
21:38properly, we're going to come out of
21:39these midterm elections with a new
21:42political formation, which will be a
21:44majority of people in this country of
21:47all racial backgrounds and religious
21:49backgrounds. the Americans who are
21:51committed to building this country and
21:53then the crazies and the dangerous
21:55extremists will be a little teeny tiny
21:57minority over there in a corner and half
21:59of them will have already gone to jail.
22:04>> Thank you, Susan. Thank you to everyone
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22:54this time. So, let's go and take some
Drew: "Is This Connected to the LaRouche Movement?"
22:57super chats here real quick. The first
22:59one here, I brother, I laughed so hard
23:02at this. Barbara, if I say too much or
23:04say too much, please tell me I can't say
23:06this. Is Prometheian action connected to
23:08the old LaRouche movement that came to
23:11my campus in 2004? So that was the
23:13University of Toledo. I had a little
23:15discussion. Thank thank you Drew for
23:17letting me know. I enjoy your content
23:19and message. When you mention Larouche,
23:21I always think of the culty movement.
23:23Okay. Well, the LaRouche youth movement
23:25was really unique. I was part of that
23:28whole process and movement back in 2004.
23:32In fact, I was in Ohio at the time. I
23:35don't remember if I was actually in
23:37Toledo, but I spent many months in 2004
23:41in Ohio. On the cult thing though, you
23:44know, I I reflect on this a lot.
23:46Definitely not a cult. I think if you
23:48want to look at the political cult, you
23:50should look at what the left has
23:51basically done to the entire Democratic
23:53party. [laughter]
23:56And I I and to comment and just to to
23:58complete the comment on this uh I don't
24:01want to say too much about you know our
24:04history because we do have a lot of
24:06legal stuff surrounding it but we
24:08basically did go through a split and
24:10some of those cult people in the past uh
24:12ended up in [snorts] the Democratic
24:14party still. So I think those old
24:17cultlike things have been excised and
24:20now we're better than anything we were
24:22doing in the past. We're going to build
24:24a youth movement too. It's going to take
24:25some time. So, thank you, Drew. Uh,
24:27Barbara Barbara and Susan, any thoughts
24:29on this one because, you know, people
24:32people are we don't hide it at all.
24:34People find out that we previously were
24:36associated with with a different organiz
24:38any any comments you
24:40>> I just I just have to say we're not
24:42associated with the current Helga
24:44Zeppelouch
24:46operation. Okay. Uh because we disagreed
24:49with them politically. Uh but you know,
24:52it wasn't a cult. there was a bunch of
24:54people who really fought about ideas and
24:57you don't find that in a cult the way
24:59that we fought about ideas to say the
25:01least. Um, you know, and and basically
25:04what the cult characterization came
25:07pretty late in the FBI CIA attacks on
25:11LaRouche, right? In other words, first
25:13he was a communist, then he was a
25:16right-wing uh you know, kind of genus
25:20conigure, you know, who was going to
25:21murder the human race, and then you
25:24know, they settled on this idea that,
25:26you know, it sounds pretty nasty. You're
25:28brainwasher in a cult. Th this was a,
25:31you know, as Ramsey Clark said, a bunch
25:34of book people, all right, a bunch of
25:36people who loved history, read, you
25:39know, love science. Basically, it was a
25:41university on wheels. Um, but you know,
25:45uh, disagreement and you know, some kind
25:48of David Caresh figure being Linda
25:50LaRouche. No way, Jose. That was
25:52completely much much different than
25:54that. uh and you know uh if you go back
25:57and look you know there's a reason why
26:01Norman Bailey said uh who was the you
26:04know the big economist on the Reagan
26:06security council that we had the best
26:09private intelligence operation in the
26:11entire world um because we basically
26:14said hey if you're going to run a
26:16political movement in the United States
26:17you have to learn about the whole world
26:19because that's how politics functions
26:22and you better be damn good about it and
26:24you better be Right. And Lyndon was a
26:27great teacher uh in that respect of
26:30trying to show you political dynamics,
26:33not these kind of nounike, you know,
26:36lattice structures which everybody
26:37constructs is really what it's about.
26:40It's about change and how do you measure
26:42change? Um and I've never heard of a
26:46cult that actually tried to do that. So
26:48[laughter]
26:49that's what I'd have to say about that.
26:51>> Yeah. There's one other aspect of that
26:53that I do want to bring in because you
26:55know Barbara and I both and and our
26:58channels get people because because
27:00we're not running around saying the Jews
27:02run everything. You probably noticed we
27:04don't say that. Um uh people say, "Oh,
27:07well then you're obviously Zionists.
27:09You're obviously in the payroll of the
27:11Zionists and so on." And I honestly I
27:13just crack up when I hear that because
27:16part of the attack on us back in the 70s
27:19and the 80s, a coordinated attack which
27:22came through the FBI, came through
27:24intelligence channels open and which
27:27called us a cult, which called us Nazis,
27:29which called us dangerous, which called
27:31us anti-semitic and so on. The
27:34Anti-Defamation League was was
27:36officially part of a get larouche
27:39coalition back in the 1970s and the
27:421980s. So, you know, people say, "Well,
27:45you're obviously Zionist. You're paid
27:46for by Apac. In fact, I ran into
27:49somebody like this at one of the polls."
27:51When it was just a question of I said,
27:53"Are you voting Republican?" Because you
27:55need to find out whether they're going
27:56to vote on your side of the ballot
27:58before you bother to talk to me. He
27:59says, "Are you being paid by Apac?" And
28:02when when he came out, I said, "Sunny, I
28:04was fighting the mother of Apac before
28:06you were even born, [laughter] you know,
28:09and it kind of caught him up short." And
28:10then we ended up having a good
28:12discussion. Uh, but I did want to bring
28:14up that ADL aspect of this. Um, because
28:17it really is extremely lazy at best,
28:22ignorant,
28:23sort of in the middle and malicious for
28:26people who know better to uh, claim that
28:29we're in the payroll of Apac.
28:33>> Thank you, Susan. Thank you, Barbara.
28:35Thank you to everyone tuning in. Drew
28:37came in with a second thing to clarify
28:39and I think we'll take a quick detour to
28:41talk about something. I always like
28:43talking to them. I just didn't want to
28:45drop out of college and go on the road,
28:47but everyone I talked to the group was
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31:00to get some questions. Uh Java just says
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Musa: Perot, Buchanan, Nader โ Why Trump?
31:26for joining us today. And here we have a
31:29good questions. Uh,
31:32Musa, I guess Iranian from can Canada.
31:36Thank you very much for joining us
31:38today. Greetings, Mrs. Kinda. Do you
31:42think the reason why America got Trump
31:44in 2016 is because we did not get Ross
31:48Perau in 1992, Pat Buchanan in 2000, and
31:52Ralph Nater in 2008?
31:56Thank you very much for your question.
31:58Susan, your thoughts? No, I think that's
32:01a very good question. Uh, obviously
32:03seeds were planted uh especially by Ross
32:06Perau with the giant sucking sound and
32:09Pat Buchanan uh who was a a very
32:12different character. He was, you know, a
32:14kind of pre-Trump character. Nater.
32:18Nater is not really in the same
32:20category, but he obviously addressed
32:22people who who thought that there was
32:24something wrong. And at least they began
32:26to raise his solutions were not right.
32:29But Buchanan and Perau were a little
32:32closer to where where you actually
32:36identify and begin to solve the
32:37problems. But I'm going to rephrase that
32:39question given the conversation that we
32:41just had. Um, do you think the reason
32:44why Trump got America got Trump in 2016
32:47is because we did not get Lyndon
32:48LaRouche in the 1980s? [laughter]
32:51Because before Ross Perau was saying
32:53this and in fact his famous halfhour
32:55infomercial where he warned about NAFTA
32:58and he said this was going to lead to a
33:00giant sucking sound taking all of our
33:02jobs and sending them to Asia. That
33:04infomercial was based on the
33:06infomercials that we did. We did scores
33:09of them through Larouche's presidential
33:12campaigns in the 1980s which millions of
33:15people saw and they sat there scratching
33:17their heads saying, "Holy crap, how can
33:19somebody be on NBC at 10:55 at night
33:25actually saying these things about the
33:28trilateral commission and Henry
33:30Kissinger being a Soviet agent and
33:33attacking environmentalism."
33:35>> We got to dig up some of those
33:37broadcasts, man. They were a hoot. And
33:39to know that they were on prime time
33:41television,
33:42>> prime time, because you could buy a half
33:44hour of prime time for $250,000
33:47back then and millions of people saw
33:50them. But but I think it's extremely
33:52important to understand and and this is
33:54sort of the through thread from LaRouche
33:57to Trump is LaRouche was was came under
34:00vicious attack, both slanders and legal
34:03attack. One of the people who indicted
34:05him was Robert Mueller. And we have a
34:07pamphlet that goes through this. It's
34:10entitled Why the British kill murder
34:12American presidents, but the last
34:14section of it um is on Trump and it
34:18draws some of the parallels to the the
34:20attacks that that we had on us. Um but
34:24he was framed up. He was thrown in jail.
34:26Um and and look what happened with a lot
34:28of people and and and this is the
34:30importance of of true leadership is they
34:34say, "Oh, no. We're never going to get
34:35anywhere." you know, here was a guy who
34:37said things I didn't think anybody was
34:38ever going to say and they framed him up
34:40and they threw him in jail and then
34:42people put their heads down. So, yes,
34:45you did have Perau and Buchanan kind of
34:47reviving a kind of spirit, but look, the
34:50the issue of Trump and his courage
34:53cannot be minimized because it's not
34:56just that he stands for what he stands
34:58for that it doesn't matter. He stands
35:01and fights. We all know the iconic fight
35:04fight fight image but that captures
35:07everything and as much as important as
35:10the policies are that quality of fight
35:14is absolutely indispensable because
35:16without that too many people don't have
35:19the courage to do this on their own or
35:21alone and and that's the importance of
35:24Trump and the MAGA movement and that's
35:27why so much effort is being spent right
35:31now to demoralize ize it, distract it,
35:33and so on. Um, which is why we're here
35:37because we have to sound the certain
35:39trumpet in terms of what the fight is,
35:43uh, with with a clarity that I don't
35:46think anybody else has.
35:50>> Thank you very much, Susan.
35:53And thank you to our Iranian friends
35:56from Canada. I recently found out that a
36:00lot of you guys and gals are following
36:03us very closely. So, thank I I see your
36:06other questions, too. We'll get to them
36:08as the show goes on. Thank you very much
36:10for joining us. Um
36:13Dne Dne, thank you very much for joining
36:16us again this week. Always enjoy having
36:19you here.
Daniel: Bohemian Grove
36:21Daniel on site says, "I used to work for
36:24very high profile clients. too much to
36:27discuss, but Bohemian Grove was part of
36:30it. Regardless, party, just too much to
36:32discuss. Uh,
36:34yes, I don't know what part of the thing
36:36you're referring to, but thank you
36:38Daniel on site for joining us today. Uh,
36:41any Barbara, Susan, any comments about
36:43Bohemian Grove?
36:46Well, that's a pretty famous
36:48[clears throat] runchy uh elite
36:50gathering uh in in around San Francisco,
36:54California uh which occurred back in the
36:5770s and 80s and 90s with pretty much
37:00regularity where all of them would go
37:02there. They went to the Grove as it's
37:05described in their various talks about
37:08it and hang out during the summertime
37:10and do god knows what. Um I I don't
37:14really I mean there's all sorts of stuff
37:16out there about what actually went on
37:18there and who what kind of sexual
37:21perversions were actually being
37:23practiced. Um but you know it was kind
37:26of like a a runchy uh you know elite
37:30gathering which everybody went to who
37:32was anybody. Um and that's probably what
37:35you're referring to Daniel. uh and kind
37:38of I assume you have some inside
37:40information about some of that and if
37:42you could if you feel comfortable about
37:44outlining it I'm really very interested
37:47in that because part of the larouche
37:50prosecutions actually was an email you
37:53know I enjoyed seeing you at the grove
37:57uh and here's the next step in what
37:59we're doing here against Linda Larouche
38:01so um I've always been very interested
38:04in what goes on at the grove
38:09Thank you very much, Daniel. Thank you,
38:11Barbara. Thank you, Susan. So many. I'm
38:13going to go through a few more super
38:14chats here. Greg, I don't remember
38:17seeing your name here. Thank you so much
38:19for the $20. Make sure you're subscribed
38:21to our email newsletter. Fender man,
38:24awesome to see you here again every
38:26week.
38:29DNE sent in a funny comment. Says,
38:31"Enforcing belief in pregnant men might
38:34be a cult.
38:38Oh my gosh. Oh, the level of mental
38:41gymnastics that's occurring on the left
38:43is truly truly astounding.
38:47Pregnant people, right? I don't birthing
38:50what I call them birthing people or
38:52something.
38:53>> Yes. It's not a mother, it's a birthing
38:55person.
38:56>> It's a birthing person. You know what?
38:58Geez crazy world we live in. Thank you
Bob & Eddie: Can Democrats Stop a Socialist Capture?
39:00so much, Dane, for joining us. Okay,
39:03let's go to some questions from our
39:05email newsletter. Uh, I'm sorry I forgot
39:08to send out the Tuesday invitation
39:10email. I got overloaded here. I'm still
39:12moving from across country and stuff.
39:14Uh, but we still got a bunch of
39:15questions in. So, let me just start with
39:17the first ones here, which is going to
39:19be on the Democratic Party and their
39:21their new brand of their new socialist
39:24branding that have come really started
39:26hitting over the last few years. So Bob
39:28says, "What justification do Democrats
39:30think they have to protect America from
39:34socialist capture when the party
39:36demonstrates that they are not even able
39:38to prevent party capture from radical
39:41socialists? Even beer guzzling Wisconsin
39:44voters are not that inept." Thank you,
39:47Bob. And Eddie says, "As a followup, do
39:51the Democrats and the media understand
39:53the implications for their opposition to
39:55the American system, or do they simply
39:58adhere to the party line?"
40:04Barbara and Susan,
40:10I guess that means I start. Um,
40:13[laughter]
40:15>> look, the Democratic Party has a
40:17terrible history, uh, which most people
40:19know. I mean, if you look back on the
40:22Confederacy and you actually think about
40:24all of that, you realize that was really
40:27awful and they were this the the, you
40:30know, basic protectors of the
40:33slaveocracy in the South during the
40:35Civil War. So, that's where we start.
40:37Okay. We get some relief with FDR's uh
40:42you know World War II mobilization where
40:44he actually embraced the American system
40:47of political economy. We get some we get
40:50some intelligence from John F. Kennedy.
40:52Uh but you know stepping out of line
40:56there was you know basically get your
40:58shot. you know, even Bill Clinton had
41:02some very intelligent uh proposals uh
41:06when he wasn't uh losing his ability to
41:09keep his zipper closed. Um so, you know,
41:12the the the kind of thing which is going
41:16on now is this party after Obama changed
41:21uh from any kind of traditional American
41:24political party. uh when you see uh the
41:27people who are defecting now uh into the
41:30Republicans, some of them uh like the
41:34lawyer Julian Epstein who used to work
41:36for the uh judiciary committee in the
41:39House uh just declared that he's
41:41changing parties because the party has
41:43gone completely off the deep end and it
41:46has. um you can't find that much of a
41:50distinction between these radical
41:54crazies who they've let loose at this
41:56point and what Barack Obama or Joe Biden
42:00were actually pushing. I mean, you know,
42:03they the Biden and Obama programs were
42:06dressed up in nice language, but they
42:09went to the same completely destructive
42:11place um that you see with these
42:14neolists who are are the uh you know,
42:17people who are out to, as they
42:18themselves say, destroy Western
42:20civilization.
42:22Um, and you know, Barack Obama embraced
42:26the entire green agenda from the
42:29globalists and that was about taking
42:32down all modern industrial societies and
42:37getting right back to feudalism,
42:40which is they think that's the kind of
42:42situation where you basically, as
42:45Susan's friend said, [snorts]
42:48get on the plantation rather than off
42:50the plantation. So that's what's going
42:53on in the Democratic party. There's
42:55really no fundamental difference between
42:58a Barack Obama and the crazies he's
43:02actually setting loose here. All right.
43:04And if you look what I did in my video,
43:07which was a little dense, Adam told me,
43:09and you know, I think that's probably
43:10true. But what I did in my video was
43:13that, you know, I tried to go through
43:15the fact that all of these candidates
43:17who are out there in the media have
43:20direct links to Barack Obama. You know,
43:23Abdul Elsa didn't just start talking to
43:26Barack Obama nicely last week after the
43:30election. Uh when you actually look at
43:32his bio and you look at who's supporting
43:34him, uh it's very clear he's completely
43:37soros funded. Uh, and you know, if you
43:41know the history of it, it was George
43:43Soros, a British agent. A lot of people
43:46treat him the wrong way. He was a
43:48British agent. Um, sent exactly for the
43:52same purpose. Look at the policies he
43:55sponsored. You're talking about
43:56destroying Western civilization.
43:59Well, what does flooding the nation with
44:01dope do? Source was for that. You want
44:05to destroy the nation, what does open
44:07borders do? George Soros was almost the
44:10originator of that entire policy called
44:14for open society formation so-called.
44:17You want to destroy a nation, get them
44:20completely obsessed with sex and sexual
44:23identity and actually go out to destroy
44:26the family and call it a patriarchy.
44:28George Soros was for that. So was Barack
44:32Obama. It's the same policy. Destroy the
44:35United States. They just dress it up in
44:38better language than the, you know,
44:42crazy commie terrorist operation of the
44:44Democratic Party actually does. these
44:47people. I'm sure when we actually get to
44:50the number of the investigation, you you
44:52all know that in the summer of 2020,
44:55there was a planned overthrow of the
44:58entire American government by Obama's
45:02forces in the CIA uh and in the academic
45:06sphere and in the Democratic party. It
45:09was called the Transition Integrity
45:11Project. And in that point, they said
45:14they needed two things. And they, this
45:16is what they're talking about. They're
45:17talking about overthrowing the
45:19government. All right? We need two
45:22things. The military, which you could
45:25argue that General Millie was really on
45:27board with the whole thing, and we need
45:31the [clears throat] people who just did
45:32all the Black Lives Matter uh
45:34destruction of the country to actually
45:37be a little bit more disciplined and
45:39actually follow our orders. That's what
45:41was in that policy. The same grouping
45:46during the summer of 2020 planned, it's
45:51just come out, actually planned many
45:54elements of January 6th. What are we
45:57going to do if Trump won't leave? What
45:59are we going to do if he challenges the
46:00election? Well, let's just have a riot,
46:03okay? And let's do some of these things
46:05which actually happened on January 6th.
46:09So this is the evil force we face but
46:14it's not new in the Democratic party.
46:18It's the the current formation starts
46:21with one guy Barack Hussein Obama
46:24running essentially the same shtick
46:27which these younger people are doing.
46:29The older generation is oified. The
46:32older political establishment is
46:34corrupt. I'm Barack Obama. I'm a young
46:37man, dynamic, charismatic, and I'm for
46:40hope and change.
46:42All right, just look at what happened.
46:452008, 2009, he stood up and said, "I'm
46:49the person who's keeping the pitchfork
46:52away from you in a big meeting with the
46:54New York banks." What did he do? He
46:57bailed all of them out along with all
46:58the European banks, all the
47:00international banks on the back of the
47:03American and middle class who he said,
47:06"I'm the new guy who's here to represent
47:09you." So there's really that's that's
47:12how I'd put it and that's how I think
47:14that's the battle I think we're facing.
47:17>> Yeah. And I think there's an aspect to
47:19this. Um again, it comes back to the
47:22fact that Donald Trump has created a new
47:24movement.
47:26It it already existed in 2016 when it
47:28put him into office. You saw it in 2024
47:31when he took the swing states and the
47:33blue states back with enough votes that
47:35we could make it too big to rig and win.
47:38And now you see this other potential,
47:41you know, move of normal people, black
47:44Detroititers and others toward a a new
47:47new Republican party of Abraham Lincoln,
47:50which means that some of these uh more
47:54nicely dressed up enemy operations are
47:58not working any longer. And the way what
48:02I see in terms of them activating this
48:05radical extremist wing of the party is
48:08that one of the options from the
48:10oligarchy, one of the options from the
48:12elites is if we can't stop Donald Trump,
48:15we're just going to bring the whole damn
48:17thing down. We're just going to try and
48:18destroy the United States. Frankly, it's
48:20what they tried to do with the Civil
48:21War. you know, in order to stop the
48:24growth, the maturation, the power of the
48:28American system from from developing,
48:32they literally tried to destroy the
48:34nation and split it into a whole bunch
48:36of little pieces. So, this is this is a
48:40similar kind of operation, but but I
48:42think it's important for people to
48:44recognize it's coming from a position of
48:47panic that they have not stopped Trump.
48:50He did come back in 2024. He is carrying
48:54out this economic revolution. Would it
48:57be faster if he didn't have roadblocks
48:59like the Supreme Court and judges and a
49:02Congress which, you know, supports him
49:0510% of the time if he's lucky? Yeah, it
49:08would be going a lot faster. But it's
49:10happening. We're having it. We We He has
49:13launched an economic revolution. And the
49:16more people get off the plantation and
49:19say, "Wow, yeah, that's the future that
49:20I want. That's certainly the future I
49:22want for my kid." Uh, the more desperate
49:25these guys get. And they the more they
49:27get into the mo mode of just burn the
49:29whole thing down. Uh, which is what I
49:32which is an aspect of activating this
49:34particular operation that they have.
49:37Doesn't mean they don't have other ones.
49:39They've got they they've got, you know,
49:41over there in, you know, in a package
49:44the so-called, you know, the Mark Carney
49:46with their globalism 2.0 and their
49:49Alyssa Slotkins and their Mark Kelly's
49:51and whoever else they might want to
49:53package as a non crazy. But right now,
49:56what's been activated is this, you know,
49:59after me the deluge, you know, just burn
50:01it down.
50:06>> Thank you, Susan. Thank you, Barbara.
50:08And thank you to all of our wonderful
50:10audience here joining us today. I have
50:12so many super quick chats here. I'm
50:14gonna try and get through some more. So,
50:16let's stay on topic here. I first quick
50:19shout out here to Hawkspan. Thank you so
50:21much for joining us. I wish a million
50:23more would join the effort. Well, help
50:25recruit somebody. [laughter]
50:27Help recruit somebody. Just one person.
50:29Just focus on one person. Trying to find
50:31one person you can talk to. So, thank
50:33you for joining us. Hawks and Debbora.
Dora: Working Families Party & SEIU
50:36Hi Barb, Adam and Susan from from
50:40Connecticut Working Families Party and
50:42the Services Employee International
50:43Union campaigned for and helped a DSA
50:47Democrat win. Is there a socialism
50:50component to this? And how do I expose
50:54this to acquaintances?
50:58Thank you very much for your question.
51:01Well, they say it. I mean, you know, you
51:04you should just take a look at the at
51:06the DSA. Just Google it, Democrat
51:09Socialist of America. They'll lay
51:11they'll lay it out right there on their
51:13page. You should particularly look at
51:15their platform statement, which you're
51:17hearing a lot about on the uh you know,
51:20news channels at this point. We're
51:22calling for
51:24uh abolishing the Senate uh you know,
51:28make abolishing the office of the
51:30president as it currently exists. uh
51:32abolishing the Supreme Court as it
51:35exists and everybody should basically
51:39report to the Congress. All right, that
51:42becomes the key uh open institution.
51:45Well, does that remind you of anything
51:48like parliament in Britain or you know
51:52uh some of these other things? Britain,
51:53by the way, uh the Labor Party is
51:56explicitly socialist. Um, and they'll
51:59tell you that they and just look up
52:01Fabian Socialism
52:03uh in your on on your Google searches
52:06there and you'll see that Tony Blair uh
52:09the whole Labor Party will tell you that
52:11they're socialist but what they call
52:14central centralist socialists. All
52:16right. Um and and that is that they they
52:20the the biggest crime of socialism and
52:24communisms are twofold. One is their
52:26atheism and materialism. Uh and the
52:29second is their downgrading of the
52:34individual in favor of the collective.
52:37All right. Actual history is made by
52:41individuals.
52:42All right? By by the Elon Musk, by the
52:45grand inventors of the world who invent
52:48whole new technologies, etc. And in the
52:51American system, what we say, what
52:54Hamilton said, what Kerry said, what all
52:56of the authors of the American system
52:58say is we exist to support what we call
53:03labor power. All right? It's not capital
53:07that actually makes an economy work.
53:09It's the human individual inspired to
53:12make new discoveries so that the life of
53:15the next generation can be better than
53:18our own. All right? And that in a
53:20nutshell is the difference between the
53:23two systems. Communism will tell you,
53:25okay, there's a fixed set of goods and
53:28what we ought to do is redistribute them
53:30from the very rich to the very poor so
53:33that everybody's sensual sensual, you
53:36know, kind of foundations in life, what
53:38to eat, uh, you know, all this stuff I
53:41can buy, all of this other stuff is
53:43satisfied.
53:45uh what the American system says is we
53:49reward completely
53:52uh creativity by the individual. That's
53:55what should be the barometer of what we
53:57actually think is the best for society.
54:01So
54:02again, it's all very publicly available.
54:05The Democrat Socialists of America say
54:08it all right. the the families and the
54:12the the working families party, the SEIU
54:15in in recent period have actually
54:18operated adjacent to the DSA. They're
54:22the same thing for all practical
54:24purposes. So, you just ask whoever is in
54:28the Working Families Party or the SEIU,
54:31um, do you know about the American
54:33system? They'll say no. Have no idea
54:35about it. Second, are you a socialist?
54:38Do you believe that socialism is better
54:40than capitalism? Now, a distinction.
54:43We're not defending the capitalism of
54:46you what happened in 2008
54:49or the capitalism of derivative
54:52speculation or the capitalism of the yen
54:54carry trade which is making our economy
54:57a casino.
54:59We're talking about what Donald Trump is
55:01doing to rebuild an entire productive
55:05economy. uh which is a completely
55:07different proposition.
55:09>> Uh yeah, let me let me add in a little
55:11correction here. She sent in something
55:13and says GSA is general assembly
55:15candidate, not DSA.
55:17>> Okay,
55:18>> so she maybe Yeah, I'm sorry. I just I I
55:21I don't know the specifics about what's
55:24going on there, but um maybe Susan, you
55:27would have a better idea about this
55:29general assembly issue.
55:32>> Well, uh go back to the original
55:34question. Sorry.
55:35>> Yeah, let me pull it up here.
55:38Here we go.
55:40>> Yeah. I mean, um, she's just saying
55:44that, um, you had these two other
55:47organizations, the Working Families
55:49Party and the SEIU, that helps somebody
55:52win a a state legislative race. Um, yes,
55:55there is a socialism component to both.
55:58here in Michigan, uh, the Working
56:00Families Party and the Workers Party has
56:02always been kind of used as a monkey
56:05wrench. You know, they get on the ballot
56:07as a third party and then they've been
56:09used to siphon votes from, you know,
56:12other people and so on. Well, they ran
56:14very, very few candidates in this
56:17election cycle because they knew they
56:19had the DSA. It really is the same thing
56:21as the DSA. Um, it may not go quite as
56:25extreme from the standpoint of getting
56:28rid of the president or the Supreme
56:30Court and the Senate and all that kind
56:31of stuff, but just look it up. And the
56:34SEIU has been one of the the key arms of
56:38this entire Soros pantheon of
56:42nonprofits, foundations that are used to
56:46create a liberal and now increasingly
56:48socialist ecosphere
56:51that people live in. I mean, this is one
56:53of the frauds of somebody like Abdul El
56:56Sayed who says, "Well, I don't take big
56:58corporate money." Well, maybe not
57:00directly into your campaign, but these
57:02billionaire foundations are the ones
57:04that create the climate out of which you
57:07recruited all of your campaign workers.
57:09So, I'm sorry. Yes, you do. Uh, and SEI
57:12SEIU is part of that. So yeah, they if
57:15if if they if they don't come out with
57:18as extreme a statement as the DSA does,
57:23uh they are definitely part of that
57:24entire ecosphere and and represent the
57:28kind of ground troops that uh have been
57:31created by this liberal elite. But, you
57:35know, as we're seeing with the situation
57:37in Detroit, uh, a lot of those people
57:41who are now thinking about at least
57:43listening to Mike Rogers and maybe even
57:45voting for him were people who had been
57:48living in that echosphere and that
57:50ecosphere is being broken up. So, look,
57:54the way the enemy operates is they they
57:57don't put all their eggs in one basket.
57:59They never have. They they they create a
58:01menu of organizations and ideologies and
58:05then they see how the population is
58:07responding. So do they have to use this
58:10more Fabian one where you kind of cloak
58:13who you really are in something which
58:15doesn't sound too frightening or do you
58:18go completely batshit crazy like the you
58:21know the communist who won in in the New
58:23York congressional race and just let it
58:25all hang out. Well, part of what they're
58:28doing is seeing how the population
58:30responds and then, you know, tweaking.
58:32All right, are we going to go with this?
58:34Are we going to push that? What's the
58:35kind? That's how they operate. But that
58:38all works in a world where all the
58:40American people are doing is reacting.
58:43If people ground themselves in what do I
58:45actually believe? Um, and and and where
58:49do those beliefs come from? and then
58:51build your mental apparatus from there,
58:55which is what we're constantly
58:56challenging people to do. What are the
58:58principles? What are the basics? Uh then
59:01I think people are not going to respond
59:03to this kind of social engineering. Um
59:06which the enemy has definitely mastered,
59:09but it's always always dependent on the
59:12fact that you're not using your
59:13god-given creativity to see through this
59:16stuff.
59:18>> Yeah. for Dora. If if you just want to
59:21actually show something concrete, just
59:24Google Open Society Foundation George
59:27Soros and the Working Families Party,
59:30and you'll see that this is a wholly
59:32owned subsidiary of George Soros.
59:40>> You're you're muted, Adam.
59:41>> Thank you, Barbara, and thank you,
59:43Susan, and thank you to all of our
59:45wonderful viewers on the show. Right
59:47now, we're going to hit some more super
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59:51contribution. Thank you, Susan, for
59:53joining us every week. What a busy show.
59:55Just listening today. And mother of
59:57pearl, uh, God had other plans for my
1:00:01sharing your half page during travels.
1:00:04Didn't want me talking politics. Lost my
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1:00:09when I got home. Not a joke. I believe
1:00:11it was time to unplug and unrest back.
1:00:15recharged more than ever. Thank you,
1:00:17Prometheian. And thank you, Mother of
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1:00:22that is the way of taking rest when God
1:00:24kind of enforces a bit of sickness on
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1:00:31Mother of Pearl. I hope you get well
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1:00:41let's hop back. I have plenty more
1:00:44questions in the super chat which I'm
Ted's Big Question: Organic or Orchestrated?
1:00:46going to get to. But before that, I want
1:00:48to switch back to another question from
1:00:50our email newsletter subscribers. Again,
1:00:54we're going to stick on this topic for a
1:00:55little longer.
1:00:57So, here's a little bit of a wider
1:00:59historical question.
1:01:01Um, Susan, are you still here? I want to
1:01:05make sure you hear this one.
1:01:07Okay. Uh, so this is a one from Ted
1:01:10continuing on what we were just
1:01:11discussing but much more of a longer
1:01:14historical arc in this one. Could what
1:01:17we are witnessing in America be the
1:01:19beginning of a historic political
1:01:21realignment rather than simply another
1:01:24election cycle as a Democratic party
1:01:26moves forward towards democratic
1:01:29socialism and increasingly radical
1:01:31positions or is by perceived by voters
1:01:36as doing so. Could that ultimately push
1:01:38more workingclass, black, Hispanic, and
1:01:41traditionally Democratic voters into the
1:01:44Republican party, creating a much
1:01:46broader multi-ult multi-racial MAGA
1:01:49coalition. At the same time, Tucker
1:01:51Carlson and others have discussed the
1:01:54possibility of a new populist political
1:01:57movement or a third party. Could these
1:02:00developments eventually intersect? In
1:02:02other words, could the Democratic Party
1:02:04become so ideologically isolated that it
1:02:08declines or even collapses as a major
1:02:11national party while the MAGA coalition
1:02:14itself eventually divides and a new
1:02:17America first populist movement emerges
1:02:20as America's second major political
1:02:22force. Something analogous to the
1:02:24collapse of the wigs and the rise of the
1:02:26Republican party in the 1850s.
1:02:30But the larger question I have is about
1:02:32agency. Is this a simp simply an organic
1:02:36political realignment driven by voters
1:02:38and historical forces
1:02:41or are influential political, financial
1:02:44or geopolitical interests already
1:02:46anticipating this formation and
1:02:48consciously attempting to shape it? Does
1:02:52Donald Trump recognize the possibility
1:02:54of such a realignment and deliberately
1:02:57emphasize the threat of socialism or
1:02:59communism as a way of accelerating the
1:03:02movement of traditional democratic
1:03:04constituencies into the Republican
1:03:07coalition?
1:03:08Is the apparent fracture developing
1:03:10within MAGA potentially part of an
1:03:14emerging postTrump political order? And
1:03:17from Prometheian actions historical
1:03:19perspective, is there credible evidence
1:03:21that the British or other international
1:03:23oligarchical interests are are
1:03:26attempting to influence or exploit these
1:03:28divisions? Ultimately, we are simply
1:03:31watching a historical American political
1:03:34realignment happen organically, or are
1:03:37we watching competing forces
1:03:40consciously fighting to determine what
1:03:42America's next political system will
1:03:45look like?
1:03:48Well, Ted, I yeah, I wanted I wanted to
1:03:51have Adam read that all because I
1:03:53thought it was a very very perceptive
1:03:55question. Um, and and I think it's both.
1:04:00I mean, what you know, you're saying, is
1:04:02this is some of this orchestrated? Is
1:04:04some of this a natural political
1:04:06alignment? But think about it from this
1:04:08standpoint. Go back throughout American
1:04:10history and and I think it will just put
1:04:12it all in very sharp relief. We had the
1:04:15American Revolution waged and fought
1:04:18against the British Empire. We had the
1:04:21development of the American system of
1:04:23political [clears throat] economy
1:04:25finally giving a nation the tools that
1:04:27it needed to defend itself from the
1:04:31British imperial system, national
1:04:33banking, tariffs, internal improvements.
1:04:36In other words, organize your economy
1:04:39around actual production and not who
1:04:42controls the money. And the natural
1:04:44political fin the natural political
1:04:47alignment that you have, you know,
1:04:50breaks down along those lines. You you
1:04:52had the the especially with the
1:04:55emergence of the Republican party of
1:04:57Abraham Lincoln. That was the party that
1:04:59represented that American system
1:05:02economic outlook. And it that that's the
1:05:06part which I I think is kind of organic
1:05:09in the sense that celebrating human
1:05:12beings as human beings and organizing
1:05:14your economy from the standpoint of
1:05:17unleashing their creative potential that
1:05:19that's very organic. And honestly, if
1:05:23that were just allowed to develop
1:05:27without this evil oligarchical infection
1:05:31coming in constantly trying to snuff it
1:05:34out. Um, and then I think the world
1:05:37would be a much happier place than it is
1:05:39today because we'd be far far advanced
1:05:42in terms of where mankind was. But you
1:05:45do have this oligarchy
1:05:47uh which has been concentrated in the
1:05:50British imperial institutions
1:05:53especially over the course of the past
1:05:55250 and 300 years. So what you've seen
1:05:59throughout American history is the
1:06:02British create
1:06:04when they recognize that there is a
1:06:07transformation going on uh or they try
1:06:10and stop the organic development of this
1:06:13American system and that's where you get
1:06:14back to the civil war um where the
1:06:17British backed the Confederacy. They
1:06:21were the originators of slavery. They
1:06:23were the ones that made sure that it
1:06:25came back into the United States after
1:06:27we had pretty much snuffed it out by
1:06:291800, early part of that century. Um the
1:06:33the success of the American system was
1:06:35basically atrophying slavery and the
1:06:38British made sure that it came back in.
1:06:40They created the political phenomenon uh
1:06:43of of the modern-day Democratic Party
1:06:46which was Wall Street slaveholders, you
1:06:48know, and British bankers basically. Um
1:06:52and so and for a while you didn't have
1:06:55any party really representing the
1:06:58American outlook and because the wigs
1:07:00had failed and the federalists had
1:07:02failed and so on. So you get the
1:07:04emergence of Abraham Lincoln's new
1:07:06Republican party. So that that was
1:07:09organic in the sense that you needed,
1:07:11you know, this American impulse is
1:07:13constantly looking for an institution
1:07:17leaders that will bring it back to life.
1:07:21Um, and that's what you're seeing with
1:07:23Donald Trump and that's what you are
1:07:24seeing with the MAGA movement. But then
1:07:27at the same time, you're always going to
1:07:28have the oligarchs coming in. How can we
1:07:31screw that up? Uh, now the way they
1:07:34screwed up the Republican party was
1:07:35pretty straightforward. They
1:07:37assassinated three Republican presidents
1:07:39in a row, Lincoln, Garfield, and
1:07:41McKinley. And again, you had this very
1:07:43interesting phenomenon for for a couple
1:07:45of decades after McKinley's death.
1:07:48Neither party represented that organic
1:07:51American system outlook. Kind of like
1:07:54what we live through in the 1980s, the
1:07:561990s, the 10, the up until Barack
1:07:59Obama. No institution represented that
1:08:02organic American outlook. And then
1:08:05something emerged and it was Franklin
1:08:07Roosevelt. And it doesn't mean all of
1:08:09his policies were super duper. They
1:08:11weren't all super duper. But there was
1:08:12an American system impulse which then
1:08:16attracted workers, minorities, farmers
1:08:19who had historically been Republican. So
1:08:21you got that new kind of realignment.
1:08:24And then what did what did the oligarchs
1:08:26do? Well, they kill your best post-war
1:08:28Democrat, which is John Kennedy. And
1:08:31they kill probably his successor, his
1:08:33brother, Robert F. Kennedy senior um and
1:08:36they take over that institution and
1:08:39again you you end you know we all know
1:08:41the phenomenon of the uni party because
1:08:43for the period say between Ross Perau
1:08:46and Donald Trump I mean Buchanan was in
1:08:50there but there was like no institution
1:08:52where that American impulse could
1:08:54manifest itself and that's what Trump
1:08:56has brought back. So what is the
1:08:57oligarchy doing now? all the things that
1:09:00you're saying, you know, the Democratic
1:09:02party, they're figuring out which kind
1:09:04of combination of crazy might play best
1:09:07in the American population to damage or
1:09:11the country. But obviously, they
1:09:13have this other option with some kind of
1:09:16anti-Trump populist movement for which
1:09:20the pathetic and unfortunate Tucker is
1:09:22the poster boy. I mean, how anybody can
1:09:25have any credibility after treating
1:09:27Hunter Biden like a sterling figure, you
1:09:30know, who should be listened to, I don't
1:09:32know. But yeah, they're going to play
1:09:33with all of that. What's organic is the
1:09:36desire to have an institution, a
1:09:39movement that represents the actual
1:09:41American system. What is orchestrated is
1:09:44all the different ways the British
1:09:47Empire tries to screw that up. But I
1:09:50thought it was an excellent question
1:09:51because it's it's the kind of strategic
1:09:53thinking that people have to be engaged
1:09:55in that you're in a period of political
1:09:57change. We are in a period of massive
1:10:00political change. You know, the politics
1:10:02of the past 40 years, they're over. You
1:10:05know, however you think politics worked.
1:10:08However you think candidates were
1:10:09chosen, that is over because Donald
1:10:12Trump has been the disruptor of the
1:10:15first quarter of this century. and I
1:10:18suspect it will continue a little bit
Barbara: Tucker, MTG, Massie โ Not Organic
1:10:20longer.
1:10:25>> Barbara, your thoughts on this question
1:10:27here regarding the political dynamic of
1:10:29both, you know, the Democratic party
1:10:32becoming mega radicalized, then you have
1:10:34Tucker Carlson and all these other
1:10:36people that are trying to split the
1:10:38Republican party. Is this an organic
1:10:41movement or are there actually deeper
1:10:44forces here that are kind of using using
1:10:47society to to do what they want?
1:10:51>> Well, you know, I don't think that
1:10:52Tucker and Marshia Taylor Green and
1:10:55Thomas Massie are an [clears throat]
1:10:57organic development period kind of in a
1:11:00story. If you think about put yourself
1:11:03in the mindset of the enemy uh you know
1:11:06right after the 2024 election where you
1:11:09have a vast coalition coming together
1:11:12behind President Trump and his mantra is
1:11:16I want to unify this very divided
1:11:18country. Now, what happens very quickly,
1:11:23one of the guys who's the glue of what
1:11:26happened in November of 2024, Charlie
1:11:29Kirk, gets assassinated.
1:11:31Tucker Carlson was very close to Charlie
1:11:34Kirk as we're in numerous figures. Um,
1:11:39and all of them have kind of different
1:11:41reactions to it because that's what
1:11:43happens when you have an assassination.
1:11:46Psychological warfare is the very
1:11:48purpose of political assassinations.
1:11:51It's to convince you that, you know,
1:11:54it's not worth it. You could die doing
1:11:57this. But what we're saying is, hey, if
1:12:01you're in this movement, if you really
1:12:02want to change the United States, you
1:12:05have to be willing to die for the
1:12:07principle of doing that. That kind of
1:12:11commitment is the kind that actually
1:12:14wins political battles for immortality,
1:12:18not just for the present moment. So, uh,
1:12:22the Tucker, Marjorie Taylor, Dean,
1:12:24Thomas Massie, the Epstein files, and
1:12:27and you know, Israel runs the entire
1:12:29world and, uh, you know, Hunter Biden's
1:12:33laptop wasn't, you know, basically a a
1:12:36real thing. It wasn't such a situation.
1:12:39It was, you know, Mossad disinformation.
1:12:42They just got it wrong. All right. And,
1:12:45you know, basically, you know, the whole
1:12:48story is so crazy that, you know, it's
1:12:52just ridiculous. But the problem is that
1:12:56a lot of people got locked into each one
1:12:59of these shiar operations designed to
1:13:02split the coalition, which actually
1:13:06elected Trump in 2024.
1:13:09They got caught up in it. All right?
1:13:11Because it works. When you're not when
1:13:13you're just looking at the internet and
1:13:15you're not functioning on the standpoint
1:13:16of political principle and thinking what
1:13:19this is about, it's pretty easy to get
1:13:22all absorbed by whether Larry Johnson
1:13:25thinks the rifle that killed Charlie
1:13:26Clerk is the right one and which way did
1:13:30the bullet go and this that and the
1:13:32other rather than facing the reality
1:13:35which is much more scary of that
1:13:38assassination being what it was. We can
1:13:41program people to kill presidents at
1:13:43this point on the internet. We don't
1:13:46need MK Ultra. We basically have an
1:13:50entire trans movement out there, which
1:13:54you got trans killers right now out
1:13:57there being programmed on the internet.
1:14:00All right. And yes, Tyler Robinson did
1:14:03kill Charlie Kirk and he did use his
1:14:06grandfather's rifle to do it. that's
1:14:08been conclusively proven. But you're
1:14:11never going to get people off this thing
1:14:14because they they now are, you know,
1:14:16wedded to this idea in their heads that
1:14:19I know something sitting in my armchair
1:14:22here at home about what happened. Um,
1:14:26that I'm just going to disregard all of
1:14:28the evidence because I'm sucked into
1:14:31what really is in some of these chat
1:14:33groups a cult-like kind of behavior. Um,
1:14:37so you know, it it's you have to look at
1:14:40it for what it is. They came to
1:14:42assassinate the movement. They continued
1:14:45what they did in 2020 forward to
1:14:48assassinate the movement. We're finding
1:14:50out a lot more about that right now. Uh,
1:14:53but that's what they did from 2024
1:14:55forward. And much as I might think I
1:14:59liked Tucker Carlson before, I really
1:15:03abhore him now. He's crazy and he's
1:15:06revealed himself to be exactly what he
1:15:08is, which is a mental
1:15:13>> I think uh Barbara, just a comment uh to
1:15:16extend what you're just saying. I think
1:15:18the challenge with a lot of people is
1:15:19intellectual cowardice.
1:15:22It's a safer It's safer for the ego to
1:15:26hold on to this fake idea than the
1:15:29process of having to admit, hey, I was
1:15:32wrong. And going through that process of
1:15:35honestly saying, hey, you know what? I
1:15:37was wrong about this actually takes
1:15:39courage.
1:15:41And so there's a I think there's a lot
1:15:43of really like you said, small-minded,
1:15:46intellectually weak people that have
1:15:48little intellectual courage to be able
1:15:51to say, "Hey guys, I was wrong."
1:15:55[laughter]
1:15:56So yes, there's a definitely a lot of
1:15:58that going on in the country right now.
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1:16:17let me go to this next one here because
1:16:20this one's coming up a lot and I it's
1:16:23really
Craig: A New McCarthy Hearing?
1:16:25quick question.
1:16:27Craig says, "Could a McCarthy type of
1:16:30hearings on communism within America
1:16:33ever happen again?"
1:16:36Thank you, Craig, for your question.
1:16:38Barbara and Susan, your thoughts?
1:16:44>> Well, I I I'm not really uh intrigued by
1:16:48having, you know, th those hearings were
1:16:51really quite abusive in many respects.
1:16:54Um and they they were played as
1:16:57political theater. Uh what we actually
1:16:59have to do is much more difficult. We
1:17:02have to inoculate the population right
1:17:04now about what socialism and communism
1:17:08are and where they come from. Uh the
1:17:11same thing with uh radical Islam. And
1:17:14what's going on, just so you know, is,
1:17:17you know, the Trump administration is
1:17:19way, way, way beyond what you're talking
1:17:21about in terms of having a congressional
1:17:24hearing. They're actually going after
1:17:26the bank accounts of the people who are
1:17:29involved in this. They're actually going
1:17:32for indictments of the people who are
1:17:34involved in this. They're actually going
1:17:36for civil suits. They're actually
1:17:38deporting people uh who are here uh on
1:17:42visas. Uh Marco Rubio is doing a whole
1:17:45job in the State Department actually
1:17:46just getting rid of them. Uh if you come
1:17:49here and you're a radical Islamist and
1:17:51you're on a visa, you're gone. All
1:17:54right. And and so I think what's
1:17:57happening is far far far beyond uh what
1:18:00McCarthy ever thought of doing uh the
1:18:03Trump administration is doing through
1:18:04and and we're also knocking out through
1:18:07the fraud investigations the entire
1:18:10funding infrastructure for this. Scott
1:18:13Bessant uh is looking at all of the
1:18:16501c3s and 501c4s for people who are in
1:18:20our international audience. That's the u
1:18:23provisions of the tax code of the United
1:18:25States that allow these foundations and
1:18:28groups to actually function. And the IRS
1:18:31is going to be conducting major
1:18:33operations to actually uh deny them tax
1:18:36exempt status because they're obviously
1:18:39functioning politically, which they're
1:18:40not supposed to do. Among other things,
1:18:43finding out how they've actually used
1:18:45their money. How do they use their
1:18:47money? Do they use their money to fund
1:18:49all these anti- flaw terrorists? That's
1:18:52something the government is right now
1:18:53investigating. So, I think the Trump
1:18:56administration is eight steps ahead of
1:18:58congressional hearings uh in terms of
1:19:00what they're actually doing about this.
1:19:05>> Thank you, Barbara. Susan, any comments
1:19:07on this one?
1:19:08>> No, I'm with Barbara. Um Okay. I'm I've
1:19:11I've seen few congressional hearings
1:19:13that really did much of any good
1:19:15certainly in the current incarnation.
1:19:17There have been some
1:19:18>> except for the Fouch the Fouchy.
1:19:20>> Oh, that's obviously the latest the one
1:19:22and and there have been a few others
1:19:24where where the congressmen are actually
1:19:27honestly trying to tell a story and get
1:19:31information out in that venue. But so
1:19:34many of them are just political ga
1:19:36grandstanding with talking points. um
1:19:39they they they don't accomplish that
1:19:40much. I think the president has a much
1:19:42better bully pulpit than the Congress
1:19:45has and and Scott Basson and the Justice
1:19:47Department.
1:19:52Thank you very much, Susan. All right,
1:19:54we're going to head back to our super
1:19:56chat questions and I'm going to take I'm
Mercenary: When History Feels Like a Lie
1:20:00going to take two here for mercenary
1:20:02which I think uh it kind of express
1:20:04something similar. So, first he says,
1:20:07"So, thank you. First off, thank you
1:20:08very much, friend, for sending in these
1:20:10questions. I've been spent I've been
1:20:11spreading word about Prometheium
1:20:13everywhere I can, especially on my
1:20:15Discord servers that I visit. However,
1:20:18it's pretty difficult to get people to
1:20:20see. I got to say something feels I got
1:20:25to say something feels like a rugpull is
1:20:28coming from T-Man, Donald Trump." And he
1:20:32goes on to say, "The [clears throat]
1:20:33worst part about all this is how much of
1:20:36history is a lie. It's been so twisted
1:20:40to the point where we can't tell without
1:20:43some sort of outside help. For example,
1:20:46either Lincoln was a uniter or that he
1:20:49was a tyrant. Okay, before I open this
1:20:52up for Barbara and Susan, I just want to
1:20:55add my two cents because I I'm I think
1:20:58you're probably a younger person like I
1:21:00am. You have to realize that there's a
1:21:03saying with food that says you are what
1:21:06you eat, [clears throat] which is
1:21:08absolutely true, right? No one at this
1:21:11point, especially the millennials, we're
1:21:13all becoming really health focused. um
1:21:16millennial generation, younger ones have
1:21:18also always kind of been health focused,
1:21:20but it's even more now. You are what you
1:21:22eat. Absolutely. Right. If you eat
1:21:23crappy food all day, if you eat junk
1:21:27food, food that just tastes good all
1:21:29day, you're going to look like crap. And
1:21:32people forget that the exact same
1:21:35analogy can be made about media. The
1:21:39content that you consume on those disc
1:21:42cord channels is garbage, bro.
1:21:45And if all you're taking in on these
1:21:47Discord channels is a bunch of what
1:21:49amounts to intellectual
1:21:52junk food, well then you're never going
1:21:54to get healthy.
1:21:56And my my suggestion to everyone that's
1:21:59caught up in this situation, I say this,
1:22:01try to point this out a lot on my
1:22:03ex.com. You need to get out of the
1:22:05domain of just consuming all this media,
1:22:09right? And you have to figure out how
1:22:11can I do this for my own? How can I find
1:22:13my voice? and actually add something
1:22:16creatively to this discussion instead of
1:22:19just consuming everyone else's point of
1:22:22view, which sounds to me like you're
1:22:24struggling with. So, Barbara and Susan,
1:22:27the worst part about all this is how
1:22:29much of history is a lie. It's been so
1:22:31twisted. We can't tell with anyone's
1:22:33sort of help. How would you help guide
1:22:35somebody who's struggling to make sense
1:22:38of what's going on in the world?
1:22:41>> Well, I say go to the library to start.
1:22:44get off the internet and go to the
1:22:45library. I find with Abraham Lincoln
1:22:49actually thinking about, you know, put
1:22:52yourself in his shoes.
1:22:54You know, here he is. He's the president
1:22:57of the United States. He had to
1:22:59basically in his first term come at
1:23:02like, you know, they're talking about
1:23:03this disguise with Trump in the plane.
1:23:06Well, Lincoln had to come into
1:23:08Washington DC in a disguised train
1:23:10because they're going to kill him on the
1:23:12train. It's a very similar kind of
1:23:15situation. But read Lincoln and think
1:23:18about how does his mind work. His his
1:23:22words are there. You can get it in the
1:23:24library. You can actually understand the
1:23:26man and his mind and how he's thinking
1:23:29by reading him. When you when you start
1:23:32to put down things in scripts or words
1:23:34or whatever, um you know, you're out
1:23:37there. You you can't hide as Adam will
1:23:40tell you. Um and basically, you know,
1:23:44every single one of our founders is like
1:23:46that. Now, the historical record is
1:23:49there. All right. For the most part, we
1:23:53uh in our former association did so much
1:23:57original work like that of actually
1:24:00trying to figure it out, trying to
1:24:02figure out the history. So, I'm not
1:24:04going to give you a recipe to say go
1:24:06read this in the old uh Larouche Pub or
1:24:09EIR, but you know, I find that actually
1:24:13getting acquainted with these people
1:24:15from our history and actually treating
1:24:18them as friends and saying, "Why did you
1:24:20do that?" Uh, you know, what was behind
1:24:23that? Then that leads you to the next
1:24:25level of thinking about it. Well, it
1:24:27becomes obvious why certain things were
1:24:29done. Was Lincoln a uniter?
1:24:32Absolutely. He tried like hell to
1:24:34prevent the civil war. Tried everything
1:24:37possible, but it didn't work. Was he a
1:24:40tyrant because he revoked habius? That
1:24:43was a necessary step at that point in
1:24:46time when you have traitors and
1:24:49insurrectionists actually causing not
1:24:52just talking about it, but causing the
1:24:55division of the country. Learn about the
1:24:58civil war. What was it about? England
1:25:00controlled the entire England. All
1:25:02right. Controlled the entire south
1:25:04because of the cotton trade and the
1:25:06slave trade earlier. That was New
1:25:08England and and the South. All right.
1:25:11The the the British were coming in on
1:25:14the side of the South to destroy the
1:25:17United States of America. That's the
1:25:19problem. And half of America actually
1:25:22believed in the British idea of things.
1:25:25That was Lincoln's problem. That's the
1:25:28problem he had to solve. He tried like
1:25:30hell to avoid a civil war because he
1:25:32knew that that would actually uh you
1:25:34know end up in in being so destructive
1:25:37which it was but ultimately we could
1:25:40come out of it uh as a republic um you
1:25:44know think about the Gettsburg address
1:25:47and what did he say there? That's why I
1:25:49have him uh you know right back there.
1:25:52Uh you know a government of the people
1:25:54by the people and for the people shall
1:25:57not perish from this earth. That is
1:26:00unique in history. That's his solution
1:26:04to the entire array of problems I just
1:26:07threw out to you that he was facing. So
1:26:09you can go to the library which is kind
1:26:11of radical at this point in time and you
1:26:14can you Lincoln wrote it all down. and
1:26:16he's got a huge volume of Abraham
1:26:18Lincoln's works and it'll take you all
1:26:21the way from, you know, all the way from
1:26:23the Civil War, how he thought about
1:26:25things, etc. Um, and that's what I
1:26:28always try and do. I try and go to the
1:26:31people themselves and go to the original
1:26:34sources rather than taking uh secondary
1:26:38uh interpretations of stuff and making
1:26:40it very personal.
1:26:43What was this person thinking? What was
1:26:44he facing? what did he actually do? And
1:26:47that's I think the kind of best method
1:26:50to adopt to get you through uh the
1:26:52conundrum you face.
1:26:54>> I want to say he uh mercenary put
1:26:56something in the chat where he said,
1:26:58"I'm not struggling. I'm frustrated by
1:27:00others." [laughter]
1:27:02You know, which is completely
1:27:03understandable. Um you know, and I
1:27:06think, you know, the the other side of
1:27:07this is how do you how do you address
1:27:10those others who are falling for all of
1:27:13this stuff? It was interesting last
1:27:15night I was on a Zoom discussion with
1:27:17some really good activists in Arizona.
1:27:20Um, and you know, one of them raised a
1:27:24similar question. It wasn't in the
1:27:25context of a discord group, but it was
1:27:27in the context of organizing young
1:27:29people and they said, uh, how would you
1:27:33approach this? How do you, you know, how
1:27:35do you puncture people who are in this?
1:27:38And you know, I I've tried various
1:27:40things um in discussions with people and
1:27:43so on, but it just occurred to me that
1:27:45maybe the first thing that you have to
1:27:47do is with the person that you're
1:27:49talking to, find out what they think is
1:27:51wrong. What is it you think is actually
1:27:54wrong?
1:27:56And then what you might rapidly discover
1:28:00is that the solution to what they think
1:28:02is wrong and and and they may have a
1:28:05solution to it, which is like one
1:28:07classic example, socialism, right? But
1:28:10what if you can then present to them
1:28:11that the solution to their question
1:28:15comes from someplace outside everything
1:28:18they've ever been told like this choice,
1:28:20you know, Lincoln is this or Lincoln is
1:28:22that? I mean clearly I think he is a
1:28:24uniter but you know to to to introduce
1:28:28something which isn't already in the
1:28:30discourse
1:28:32um but but which addresses would but
1:28:35comes from again comes from this outside
1:28:37to address what it is what what do you
1:28:40think is the problem here you know what
1:28:42what should we do what do you think the
1:28:44problem is rather than you know as both
1:28:47Barbara and Adam have said these kind of
1:28:48sterile well here's my position on this
1:28:51I mean I I'll never forget one of our
1:28:54friends from way back once went to a
1:28:57convention. [clears throat] We we used
1:28:58to intervene, you know, we'd go to
1:29:00leftist conventions and Democratic Party
1:29:02conventions and we just sort of go in
1:29:04there and, you know, just intervene with
1:29:06our ideas and and this person ran into
1:29:09one of your typical lefties, you know,
1:29:11who wouldn't talk to us unless we told
1:29:14us, "What is your position on this?" You
1:29:17know, like
1:29:19so many times you've seen this. My
1:29:21friend just sort of flipped it on its
1:29:22head and said, "What is your position on
1:29:24hard-boiled eggs?" You know, I mean,
1:29:26it's just this positioning this this,
1:29:29you know, where do you stand in the
1:29:30catechism as opposed to
1:29:34do you think there was actually a
1:29:36problem? What do you where do you think
1:29:37where do you think the problem actually
1:29:39came from? and and and where where you
1:29:42might rapidly describe these sort of
1:29:44sterile silly position solutions in no
1:29:47way whatsoever address where a problem
1:29:50actually came from. Anyway, that's what
1:29:52I would throw in to our friend who's
1:29:54clearly trying to rescue people in this
1:29:57universe.
1:29:58>> Yeah, it's like people are arguing what
1:30:00level of purgatory what level of
1:30:02purgatory should I be showing at? Is
1:30:04that is that level over there a little
1:30:06bit of a better hangout than the one
1:30:08that I'm sitting in? Uh
1:30:11also Merceny I I just want to help you
1:30:14on your journey there of helping to help
1:30:17others see what you see. It actually is
1:30:22less about other people and more about
1:30:24yourself and understanding yourself well
1:30:28enough to actually be able to
1:30:29communicate to other people. So I urge
1:30:32yourself I urge you to think about it
1:30:34more. I think Barbara's angle about
1:30:36going back to the original sources is so
1:30:39important, right? Because you're
1:30:41consuming all these secondhands accounts
1:30:43of everything. And I'm almost certain
1:30:45you haven't probably gone to the
1:30:47original sources all that much. Cuz
1:30:50honestly, most people don't. They just
1:30:51want to get the cliffnotes for
1:30:52everything because doing the original
1:30:54work, reading the original sources,
1:30:57putting yourself in that mindset, trying
1:30:59to figure it out on your own, that's the
1:31:01creative historical work that people
1:31:03don't do.
1:31:04And by the way, there's there's a
1:31:06current really simple way to begin, you
1:31:10know, to to start to use that
1:31:11methodology, and I've said it before. Uh
1:31:14just go to the watch a cabinet meeting.
1:31:17Uh go to the White House website, read
1:31:20what they say, listen to an interview by
1:31:23JD Vance or Scott Besson, not the clips,
1:31:26the whole thing. Listen to how their
1:31:28minds work, listen to how they're
1:31:30approaching a problem. Uh so that that's
1:31:32sort of a current very simple way to
1:31:34begin to get much more used to this
1:31:37method of actually your mind being in
1:31:41dialogue with another living person's
1:31:43mind trying to actually solve a problem
1:31:47rather than you know getting some kind
1:31:49of comment which will be clickbait.
1:31:53>> Let me um Whoops. Move that add to the
The White House App
1:31:57stage. I want to just show this out. So
1:31:59Trump, the Trump administration just
1:32:02launched this app which is something
1:32:04that we've always talked about which is
1:32:06like you need to follow what the
1:32:08president is doing from his own here.
1:32:11Let me let me pull down this thing here
1:32:12so people can see a little bit more of
1:32:14this. So the president the White House
1:32:16has just launched this new app the like
1:32:20literally just a few weeks ago. I don't
1:32:22know why it hasn't been making more
1:32:25rounds here yet. Where's Where's the
1:32:27mercenary? I have too many s super chats
1:32:30now and I'm just like scrolling through
1:32:31like 20 of them. Here we go. So yeah,
1:32:34you can check it out right here. You can
1:32:36get it on Google Play and the Apple App
1:32:38Store. So again, the official White
1:32:41House app, official mobile app from the
1:32:44White House, real time updates, live
1:32:47events, and direct access to the
1:32:49president all in one app. So now
1:32:52everyone, you don't really have an
1:32:53excuse. You can actually follow what the
1:32:57president wants you to see. You can
1:32:59follow all of the live events that he
1:33:02does because President Trump does events
1:33:05like every day he's doing something. At
1:33:07least one a day.
1:33:09So, I just wanted to call everyone's
1:33:11attention to this because I only found
1:33:13out about this just a few days ago
1:33:15myself. So, thank you everyone for
1:33:17tuning in. If you're on if you're on
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1:33:22You can double tap on the stream.
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1:33:27And thank you very much, Mercenary, for
1:33:29sending in your question. Um, I'm going
1:33:31to go here back to our email newsletter.
1:33:34I'm going to take
Gregory: "How Can We Still Trust the President?"
1:33:37um a question here that was very
1:33:38thoughtful and does express a lot of
1:33:42what people are feeling in the United
1:33:44States. Gregory says, "Thank you. You're
1:33:47doing a great work in the order of
1:33:50former great patriots. I'm a retired
1:33:5369year-old
1:33:55um social security recipient who with
1:33:58his wife have suffered dearly through
1:34:01this horrible time 2021 to 2026 of
1:34:04inflation. We were promised relief
1:34:06during the 2024 rallies of the
1:34:08president. No wars, $2 gas, 1955 prices.
1:34:12Then he said, "You will have more money
1:34:14than you can know what to do with." My
1:34:16last social security raise was 2.8%
1:34:20while inflation last year, the real
1:34:21inflation, my pocket inflation was about
1:34:2330. The question is, with no convictions
1:34:27of the criminals, the Epstein list
1:34:29people still enjoying their life and
1:34:31their wealth. The war still going strong
1:34:34and the voting system still in shambles.
1:34:36Finally, inflation still of the roof for
1:34:40sen uh finally inflation still off the
1:34:42roof for senior citizens like me who
1:34:44have suffered profusely. How can we
1:34:47still trust the president when he says
1:34:49anything?
1:34:51I voted and supported the president
1:34:53three times.
1:34:55Thank you, Gregory, for your question
1:34:57and for being honestly expressing your
1:34:59feelings to us. Barbara and Susan, how
1:35:02do you respond to people that are in
1:35:03this situation?
1:35:07Well, the way I respond is I I always
1:35:10take people back to the uh situation of
1:35:13our founding fathers. Um, and it's kind
1:35:17of important to do that as a mindset uh
1:35:19in the present moment. And I think about
1:35:22what was it like? What were they
1:35:24thinking about the night before they
1:35:26actually signed the Declaration of
1:35:28Independence and said, "Uh, we're
1:35:30pledging in essence our lives, our
1:35:33property, and everything we have and our
1:35:35sacred honor for cause. We don't know
1:35:37whether it's going to succeed or not."
1:35:40Um, I can't tell you. I I'm I'm on
1:35:43social security. I know the pain that it
1:35:46actually causes when I go to the grocery
1:35:47store. I also really really try and
1:35:51investigate why these things are the way
1:35:54they are. Under Joe Biden, inflation was
1:35:58running at, you know, in real terms, I
1:36:01think it's probably around 30, uh, you
1:36:03know, uh, percent. Um, and you know, the
1:36:08social security trust fund is really
1:36:11dependent on a lot of people paying into
1:36:14it who are new workers. That's a problem
1:36:18because, you know, basically a lot of
1:36:20the women in our country have have
1:36:22bought into the idea that they shouldn't
1:36:24have kids. Um, and we're suffering from
1:36:27a deficit in terms of what's being paid
1:36:30into the fund. The war, okay, was it
1:36:34necessary or not? You have to really
1:36:37think about that. If Iran had a nuclear
1:36:40weapon, think about how we've actually
1:36:43it's actually played out here. First of
1:36:45all, if I'm Donald Trump and I'm saying,
1:36:47"Okay, here's my plan, guys. I'm telling
1:36:49you I'm going to rebuild the US
1:36:50economy." Well, where's the financing
1:36:53come to do that? How does that actually
1:36:55work? And then suddenly you discover,
1:36:57well, I can't just do it from inside the
1:37:00United States because why? Because
1:37:03there's a global system of finance at
1:37:05this point and all of our industry and
1:37:08everything else is in some other
1:37:09country. Okay? uh and so I have to start
1:37:13to deal with the world at that point in
1:37:17terms of what is the control point of
1:37:19all that financing. It's called the city
1:37:22of London and we've gone through that in
1:37:25a lot of our various briefings. What has
1:37:28the Iran war done as a complimentary
1:37:31feature? It's broken up all of the
1:37:35income on which the city of London
1:37:37depends. It has brought some I I can't
1:37:41remember how many trillions of dollars
1:37:43the Gulf countries uh from that war have
1:37:46actually invest invested in the United
1:37:48States, but they've taken away from
1:37:50London and put it here to do what? To
1:37:53build factories to generate
1:37:56a bountiful economy.
1:38:00Do I think Trump will do something about
1:38:02Social Security during the course of
1:38:062026
1:38:08uh before the midterms to actually
1:38:10relieve some of the load? Yes, I do. But
1:38:14the biggest problem that we have if
1:38:16we're seniors is a rotten health care
1:38:19system. Um and [clears throat] Trump is
1:38:22doing enormous things on that. He's
1:38:24actually reduced the price of drugs,
1:38:28prescription drugs to the lowest
1:38:30anywhere in the world. Has he yet
1:38:33overcome Obamacare and all the craziness
1:38:35that goes on there? Yes, he has. Is he
1:38:38trying to get more money into Medicare
1:38:41by eliminating the fraud doing that? All
1:38:44right. So the things you go back to in
1:38:47terms of the campaign
1:38:49don't take into account what happens
1:38:50when I try to govern and actually face
1:38:54real problems and solve them on the same
1:38:57principles I'm telling people. Can we
1:39:00rebuild the economy on a dime and just
1:39:03snap our fingers and say, "Okay, here it
1:39:05comes.
1:39:07It's being rebuilt." But that takes
1:39:10time. You got to build the factories.
1:39:12You got to jawbone the crazy people who
1:39:15offshore things and said, "I just gave
1:39:17you a tax credit to build here and I'm
1:39:20going to tariff the hell out of you uh
1:39:22if you don't bring your uh industry back
1:39:24to the United States being done. It
1:39:27doesn't eliminate the fact that meat
1:39:30costs an arm and a leg." Why is that?
1:39:33Why is that? Why does it cost an arm and
1:39:35a leg? Is it because Trump did the Iran
1:39:38war? No. It's because we don't have any
1:39:41cattle herds that are actually mature
1:39:43enough to slaughter. When he tries to go
1:39:45to Argentina to get beef to actually
1:39:48import it, the cattleman's association
1:39:50goes crazy and says, "Why? You're
1:39:53screwing us, you know, and we'll make a
1:39:55big deal about it." So, you know, all of
1:39:58these problems are things which were
1:40:00created under Biden, a huge hole. We're
1:40:03almost destroyed when you actually look
1:40:06at it. We're digging our way out of it.
1:40:09And I can't tell you um essentially that
1:40:13it is still painful for everybody who's
1:40:16on social security when you're looking
1:40:18at, okay, I got my husband needs this
1:40:20today and it costs X amount of money
1:40:23because it's a branded drug. It's not
1:40:26generic and none of the, you know,
1:40:28things have it on their uh you're poor
1:40:31and you can buy it list, but go to Trump
1:40:33RX. We're gradually making progress in
1:40:35bringing those prices down. Um the
1:40:40hospital system is, you know, really
1:40:42screwed up for seniors. Totally. Um but
1:40:46and there there has to be an answer to
1:40:48that. The Republicans haven't come up
1:40:51with one, but Obamacare created the
1:40:54present mess. So we've got to come up
1:40:56with a solution. So I think that but the
1:41:01other thing what you're doing here
1:41:04is you're looking at the enemy operation
1:41:07which I just described to actually break
1:41:10you away from the president to yammer at
1:41:14you. He said there would be no wars.
1:41:17Well, what happens when I discover
1:41:20uh, you know, at least, you know, in
1:41:22terms of what's being talked about here,
1:41:24that one, I can't finance things because
1:41:28the British control everything, the city
1:41:30of London or Wall Street control
1:41:31everything, and two, uh, Iran is about
1:41:35to get a nuclear weapon, which would
1:41:37destroy the oil trade, uh, in the Middle
1:41:40East if that erupted. And we see the
1:41:43impacts of that on the world economy
1:41:46still at this point if the Middle East
1:41:49goes completely nuts.
1:41:52Were the Iranians ready to talk peace
1:41:54and get an economic deal and join in
1:41:57actually, you know, stabilizing the
1:41:59situation? No, they were not. But you're
1:42:03going to see the gas prices come down
1:42:05quickly uh well before the midterms
1:42:08either through Trump strongarming the
1:42:10oil companies and the refiners or
1:42:13through an actual settlement of the
1:42:14straight of hormuz. So, you know, I just
1:42:18think that, you know, patience in the
1:42:20pain is what I have to counsel because I
1:42:23have my eye on the future and what we're
1:42:26trying to create, not for our generation
1:42:30necessarily, but for the next one. And I
1:42:32think about my parents going to World
1:42:34War II. Why' they do that? For me, for
1:42:38the next generation. They put their
1:42:40lives on the line for this country. Uh,
1:42:42and that's the kind of spirit I think
1:42:44we've got to invoke in people to
1:42:46actually think through the present
1:42:48period.
1:42:50Yeah. And I would also just add, I mean,
1:42:52look, when you campaign for office, you
1:42:56tell people what you want to do, but
1:43:01people have to recognize
1:43:03we are a system of separation of powers.
1:43:09And if you look at how much sabotage
1:43:12this president has been up against from
1:43:14this Congress, from the Supreme Court,
1:43:18from the Democratic governors and the
1:43:19courts, look, you know, think about the
1:43:21tariff question. Um, and you know, pre
1:43:24president wanted to give people tariff
1:43:26checks and he probably, you know, would
1:43:28have done that. That would have been a
1:43:29cool maybe $2,000 in your family's
1:43:32pocket, right? But what happened? uh a
1:43:36bunch of Democratic governors
1:43:38sued the president's tariff policy. It
1:43:41went to and it was Democratic governors.
1:43:43Let's not forget that it went to the
1:43:45Supreme Court. The Supreme Court threw
1:43:47out his ability to tariff using the uh
1:43:51EAPA provisions. So threw all of that
1:43:55back, slowed the entire process down,
1:43:58forced them to do certain refunds. Now,
1:44:01who got the refunds? You? No, the
1:44:05refunds went to the corporations. Did
1:44:07the corporations pass that back on to
1:44:09you? No. But as Scott Besson said the
1:44:12other day, so what these Democratic
1:44:13state attorney generals did is
1:44:15essentially they just did a big pile of
1:44:17corporate welfare, right? So I mean,
1:44:21we're in a battle. My friend, retired
1:44:23General Blaine Halt always says in a
1:44:26war, the enemy always has a vote. So you
1:44:29have a an a a a a globalist apparatus
1:44:32out there which obviously has tremendous
1:44:35capabilities in terms of Democratic
1:44:38party officials whether they're in
1:44:40Congress or in the states control of the
1:44:42courts and this gets to the whole
1:44:44question of accountability and arrests.
1:44:46Yeah, let's go arrest a bunch of people
1:44:48and have the indictments thrown out or a
1:44:51democratic contaminated jury pool,
1:44:54declare them innocent. So, you felt good
1:44:56for a couple of minutes and then justice
1:44:58wasn't done. Um, you're in a battlefield
1:45:01where you've got an enemy which is
1:45:04fighting tooth and nail
1:45:06to prevent Trump from bringing the
1:45:08American system back in full and as fast
1:45:12as he possibly can. Their strategy has
1:45:16been throw sand in the wheels so that
1:45:18you are still struggling when you get to
1:45:22the polls in November and because of
1:45:26that you vote against the president
1:45:30and this battle which we're in the
1:45:32middle of you know would be like
1:45:34abandoning the fight in 1943
1:45:38because you were tired of not being able
1:45:40to you know buy coffee uh in World War
1:45:43II. too. It's a fight. People sacrifice
1:45:46and and nobody is saying that it's easy
1:45:49for those layers of the population which
1:45:51especially people who you know have
1:45:55limited capped social security and
1:45:57nothing else. That is incredibly
1:46:00incredibly incredibly challenging and
1:46:03difficult and we hear that. But the
1:46:07alternative is not to stop fighting and
1:46:10surrender to the enemy. The alternative
1:46:12is we got to see this thing through to
1:46:14the end.
1:46:19>> Thank you very much Barbara and Susan
1:46:21for your question to this answer to this
1:46:23very challenging question. A lot of
1:46:25people reach out with very similar
1:46:27stories.
1:46:29So thank you uh thank you very much
1:46:31Gregory for sending in your question. Uh
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1:46:40Okay. super chats. Everyone with the
1:46:43super chat, I'm going to try and get
1:46:45through these as quickly as possible.
1:46:48Um, my apologies if I don't get to yours
1:46:50in this show here. Uh,
1:46:53Tongsley says, "Good to see Susan on
1:46:55Patrick Bet David's show. Keep up the
1:46:57good work. Thank you for joining us
1:46:58here, brother." Winky the cat.
Winkie: Susan's Journey โ RFK to Trump
1:47:02Thank you. First off, very cute kitty
1:47:05you have there. I know you sent this in
1:47:07earlier when I think Susan was talking
1:47:09about this. So maybe Susan you can maybe
1:47:12Barbara and Susan could talk about this
1:47:13a little bit. Can you give us a brief
1:47:14overview of your political journey from
1:47:16the 60 supporting RFK to supporting
1:47:18Trump?
1:47:20>> Yeah. Um you know as I've said many
1:47:23times I was campaigning for RFK senior
1:47:26uh in San Francisco uh 1968 when he was
1:47:29shot in uh Los Angeles. And and when you
1:47:34think about what I was talking about
1:47:36earlier in terms of a period of time
1:47:38where it doesn't seem like there's any
1:47:40individual or institution
1:47:42that you can turn to who in some way has
1:47:46the courage and the vision to save the
1:47:49country and and that is what happened
1:47:51with me and a whole lot of other people
1:47:53after 1968. But I was one of the lucky
1:47:56ones because I ran into the or I ran
1:47:59into Lyndon Larouche and his
1:48:01organization in 1971.
1:48:04And even though I didn't understand a
1:48:05lot of what he was talking about at the
1:48:07time, I said, "This makes more sense
1:48:09than anything I've heard, you know, in
1:48:11three and a half years at the University
1:48:13of Michigan." That was for damn sure.
1:48:15Um, and I said, I think I'll stick
1:48:16around and try and figure out figure
1:48:18this out. And here I am, you know, how
1:48:20many years? 55 years later and still
1:48:24figuring it out by the way, which is
1:48:25part of the the very nice journey. But
1:48:28but there I I I want to kind of
1:48:30highlight this journey from a a more
1:48:34contemporary standpoint because
1:48:36obviously when Donald Trump came along
1:48:37in 2016, it was like okay and especially
1:48:40with this second term with the
1:48:43consciousness with which this
1:48:45administration is reviving the American
1:48:48system, is talking about Alexander
1:48:51Hamilton, is using tariffs, is as D as
1:48:54Donald Trump said in that thing I showed
1:48:56at the very beginning people are coming
1:48:58back to the party the party of Abraham
1:49:01Lincoln. You know it it it it it has
1:49:05indeed been a journey but there was one
1:49:07little step in between which I want to
1:49:08share with people. Back in 2020 when we
1:49:11were fighting for President Trump's
1:49:13reelection I'm in the Detroit area.
1:49:16We're near the famous River Rouge plant
1:49:19uh the Ford plant which used to have
1:49:21100,000 workers at it. nowhere near that
1:49:24order of magnitude less, but they build
1:49:26the bestselling truck in America, the
1:49:28Ford F-150. Um, you know, and it's still
1:49:31kind of iconic in terms of American
1:49:34industrial might. And there's a overpass
1:49:37on the freeway right before the workers
1:49:40go in to the plant. So, we made a huge
1:49:43out of a bed sheet, we made a huge sign
1:49:45and hung it over the overpass and it
1:49:47said Donald Trump, the best Democrat
1:49:50since JFK.
1:49:52and we got honks and honks and honks
1:49:54from the guys as they were going into
1:49:56the plant. Um, and so it's not that
1:49:59different from Donald Trump's political
1:50:01journey because he used to be a Democrat
1:50:03or for that matter Ronald Reagan's
1:50:06because he used to be a Democrat.
1:50:08Because the Franklin Roosevelt
1:50:10Democratic Party, despite some of the
1:50:11haters in the chat, and again, I'm not
1:50:13defending all of Franklin Roosevelt's
1:50:15policies, but there were some haters in
1:50:17the chat, revived the American system,
1:50:20and that's how we won World War II.
1:50:22Plain and simple. Period. You know, we
1:50:24the world would be under fascism if it
1:50:26were not for Franklin Roosevelt reviving
1:50:28the American system, creating the
1:50:30arsenal of democracy, and providing the
1:50:33material so that mankind could defeat
1:50:36the Nazis. But again, as we've discussed
1:50:39throughout this show, the enemy then
1:50:42tries to destroy the whatever
1:50:43institution has become the vehicle for
1:50:46the American system impulse. So here we
1:50:49are 80 years later. They certainly have
1:50:51destroyed the Democratic party as that
1:50:54impulse. So a lot of people have taken
1:50:55different journeys, you know, to get to
1:50:57the MAGA movement today. Whether they're
1:51:00conscious of the fact that it's an
1:51:01American system impulse pushing them or
1:51:04whether it's just what is sort of
1:51:06inherently American in so many people
1:51:09like you see in Donald Trump. The man is
1:51:11just a damn builder. He just loves to
1:51:13build things. He lives in the real
1:51:15world. He knows what kind of concrete.
1:51:18He knows what kind of lining you need to
1:51:20put in the reflecting pool. He knows
1:51:22what kind of paint will work under this
1:51:25circumstance and not that circumstance.
1:51:27That's a bit to be a builder. An actual
1:51:31builder means you have to live IRL. You
1:51:34have to live in the real world. You
1:51:36can't have a damn opinion that somebody
1:51:38gave you in an exch. You live in the
1:51:42real Elon Musk, same thing. Why does he
1:51:44blow up so many rockets? Because the
1:51:47real world tells you whether your
1:51:49current opinion about how to do this is
1:51:52right or wrong. And then you you you
1:51:55look at, all right, well, I thought that
1:51:56worked. Uh, no. It just blew up on the
1:51:58launch pad. Well, what was the problem
1:52:01there? You try it again. Well, we got it
1:52:03off the launch pad, but it blew up here
1:52:05or the landing didn't stick or whatever.
1:52:08Builders live in the real world. And I I
1:52:12think for for most people whose
1:52:14political journey has brought them to
1:52:16the MAGA movement, they have some
1:52:18connection to the real world which
1:52:20actually got them there. Whatever
1:52:23whatever political formation was
1:52:25reflecting some little part of that at
1:52:27the time. You you made your own journey.
1:52:34>> Thank you very much, Susan. And thank
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1:53:41and I'm going to try and get through as
1:53:43many of these as possible. Uh, so let's
1:53:47see here,
1:53:49Johan. So, let me take these two from
1:53:51our friends across the pond. Johan,
1:53:53thank you guys for everything you do.
1:53:54God bless all. When will people wake up
1:53:56and see what the real truth is? God
1:53:58bless President Trump. Thank you, Johan,
1:54:00from joining us from across the pond.
1:54:01And Miss Miss Reels says, "Polls in
Mrs. Res: Wisconsin's Polls and "Woke Two"
1:54:05Wisconsin seem to be way off. Is there
1:54:07more to that? Does what does this mean
1:54:12for the [clears throat] midterm outlook?
1:54:14Is woke to sign sufficient mitigation
1:54:18against Iran gas prices and affordab
1:54:22affordability? Great job as always,
1:54:26Barbara and Susan.
1:54:33the woke one and woke two that woke one
1:54:36that was that was pretty
1:54:38>> very insightful
1:54:40>> right that is a very insightful question
1:54:41what's being talked about here for
1:54:43people who sort of aren't glued to uh X
1:54:46or glued to the Sunday shows like I have
1:54:48to be uh is AOC was on the Sunday show
1:54:52is trying like all of these uh you know
1:54:55DSA people socialist Democrats are doing
1:54:58to just destroy the entire previous
1:55:01existence they had. So what was most
1:55:04remarkable by AOC who everybody thinks
1:55:07is running for president is she
1:55:10introduces into her interview with on
1:55:12ABC News. She says, "Oh, and by the way,
1:55:15do you know I have a New York City
1:55:17councilman who always tells me woke one
1:55:20was pretty crazy."
1:55:22And that's true. It was pretty crazy,
1:55:24right? What is SHE TALKING ABOUT? SHE'S
1:55:27TALKING ABOUT mostly uh the summer of
1:55:302020 uh and before out of which you got
1:55:34the so-called woke uh censorship,
1:55:37vilification,
1:55:39Salem witch trials of everybody who
1:55:41actually wanted to have a dissending
1:55:43opinion uh brought into existence the
1:55:47woke stuff. All right, the actual
1:55:50overthrow of the government of the
1:55:51United States when you actually really
1:55:53get down to it. So um what what the
1:55:58questioner is asking which is very funny
1:56:00is she you know basically then the
1:56:02immediate question which arose after she
1:56:05dismissed woke one as crazy is what the
1:56:09hell is she talking about what is woke
1:56:11two what could it possibly be that's
1:56:14what people are actually talking about
1:56:16on the internet at this point and she
1:56:19asked the question is woke 2 sufficient
1:56:22mitigation against Iran gas prices and
1:56:25affordability.
1:56:26[snorts] I don't think it has anything
1:56:28to do with that. I think it's a second
1:56:31mind control phase of their operation
1:56:34against the people of the United States.
1:56:37The polls in Wisconsin are the office
1:56:39just as much as the polls in Michigan.
1:56:42There's lots of explanations which
1:56:44people are given for that like the fact
1:56:46that the Wisconsin race actually broke
1:56:49open when the governor came in and um
1:56:53you know endorsed the guy who won
1:56:54against the communist nitwit. Uh and the
1:56:58same is sort of true of Michigan in
1:57:00terms of the late surge by uh Haley
1:57:04Stevens. But the polling was obviously
1:57:06completely crazy. I believe the polling
1:57:10concerning the president is probably as
1:57:12crazy. Um, but I don't take anything for
1:57:15granted because we've got to win this
1:57:16thing by margins which are actually
1:57:19incredible when it comes to the
1:57:20midterms. So, great question. U, but
1:57:24kind of an insiders question. So, I had
1:57:26to basically draw it out and show what
1:57:27it was.
1:57:30>> Thank you very much, friend, for joining
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1:57:44Okay. Uh,
1:57:46Cool Mom says, "Thank you for all you
1:57:48do." Thank you for joining us. Cool mom.
1:57:51T- neck. Thank you. The big guy says,
1:57:53"Behind enemy lines in T-neck, New
1:57:55Jersey. It's certainly very actually New
1:57:58Jersey is a very diverse state.
1:58:00Actually, there's parts of New Jersey
1:58:02that are almost like wilderness. You
1:58:04wouldn't know. And then you go right
1:58:06down the street and it's uh New Jersey
1:58:08is the most populated state in the
1:58:10nation and it also has the highest uh
1:58:13labor unions. It's the most labor union
1:58:16state in the country. So New Jersey is
1:58:18definitely interesting place for sure.
1:58:20Uh Big Chunga says Bank of America
1:58:22pledging to invest in infrastructure
1:58:25goes perfectly with the American system
1:58:27of political economy. Nice choice for th
1:58:30for nice choice who stepped up. Nice
1:58:32choice for those who stepped up. We
1:58:34agree. I think you're going to see more
1:58:36and more American companies really come
1:58:38to the front as the economy starts
KP Powell: Patrick Byrne
1:58:40coming back in the United States. Um, we
1:58:43have KP Pal says, "I haven't heard you
1:58:46gals or any Republicans talk about what
1:58:48Patrick Brin said years ago regarding a
1:58:51lot of things like Hillary and Obama.
1:58:53What do you all think?" I don't even
1:58:54know who that is. Barbara, Susan,
1:58:56>> we do, Barbara.
1:58:58Patrick Burn is a weird dude. Okay. Uh,
1:59:01to say the least. He's obviously uh you
1:59:04know entrenched in the intelligence
1:59:06community. He was a declared CIA and FBI
1:59:09informant which he basically uh you know
1:59:12goes around bragging about and then he
1:59:14uses that to actually say what he's
1:59:17going to say. He has some interesting
1:59:18things to say. All right. But you know
1:59:21like anything if you're responsible you
1:59:24got to basically just not take him at
1:59:26his word. You got to check it out. and a
1:59:28lot of things he's said or done uh
1:59:31particularly in terms of the craziness
1:59:33which went on around that 2020 uh vote
1:59:37fraud investigation I found to be
1:59:39counterproductive rather than very
1:59:41productive. So that's how I basically
1:59:43evaluate that. I mean who who has an
1:59:46affair with a woman uh i.e. that's
1:59:50claimed to be a Russian spy i.e. Maria
1:59:53Betatina, which he did, had a sexual
1:59:56affair with her at the direction of the
1:59:58FBI. Um, that's pretty weird in my view.
2:00:02[laughter]
2:00:04>> It's your mission.
2:00:08>> Thank you, Barbara.
2:00:09>> Should you choose to accept it.
2:00:10[laughter]
2:00:12>> And for some people, it might be mission
2:00:14impossible. Who knows?
2:00:18>> Thank you. Thank you very much, KP Pal.
Josh: Turkey and the Realignment
2:00:20Thank you, Barbara and Susan. Uh, let me
2:00:21let me see if I can uh just say thank
2:00:24you Josh. Josh, hey gang, it seems the
2:00:27British are really panicking over
2:00:28sovereign nation stances of United
2:00:30States, Russia, Israel, most recently
2:00:31Bulgaria. I was wondering I wonder if
2:00:34they aren't trying to use Turkey to
2:00:36suddenly offset these sovereignty-minded
2:00:39nations.
2:00:42>> Uh, it's an interesting hypothesis, but
2:00:44I will be the very first to say, as I've
2:00:46said many times, uh, I am not an expert
2:00:49on Turkey. It is a very complicated c
2:00:52country. So I'm not going to try and
2:00:53attribute anything at this stage of the
2:00:55game. I think a I think a lot of things
2:00:57are being realigned though. I think your
2:00:59underlying hypothesis is right. There is
2:01:01a lot of realignment. You now have this
2:01:03new defense agreement between Turkey,
2:01:07Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. Um a lot of
2:01:10people have their hair on fire over
2:01:12that. Uh what where is that going to go?
2:01:15What is its intention? I'm I'm I'm not
2:01:18ready to pass judgment one way or
2:01:20another on it, except that it's in this
2:01:23world where Donald Trump has kicked over
2:01:27the post-war rules-based order. He has
2:01:30shattered that chessboard and everybody
2:01:33is scrambling. Some of it's coming from
2:01:35the empire. Some of it is maybe just
2:01:38countries saying, "Okay, well, we don't
2:01:39have to play by these idiotic super
2:01:41national rules anymore. We're going to
2:01:42figure out what's best for us." is
2:01:44what's best for them going to clash with
2:01:47what may be best for the United States
2:01:49at some point? Very possibly, but that's
2:01:52honestly how the world works.
2:01:57Thank you, Susan. Thank you, Josh. Uh,
2:01:59okay. Uh, I just want to say thank you,
Closing: The Aspen Interns in Chat
2:02:01Paul. Sorry I didn't get Excellent
2:02:03question, by the way. Sorry I didn't
2:02:05have time today. Thank you, Return to
2:02:08Beloved. Uh, Sally, I really appreciate
2:02:11your question. Um, we're going to be
2:02:13talking more about this again, looking
2:02:15into the data centers, finding the
2:02:17pro-China. How do we know what concerns
2:02:19are true and which are false? Right?
2:02:21That's exactly the kind of confusion
2:02:23they're trying to instill in Americans.
2:02:25What I just like to say, guys, everyone,
2:02:27if we didn't have data centers, we
2:02:28wouldn't have the show, right? You
2:02:30wouldn't have any of the modern
2:02:32conveniences that everyone loves, but
2:02:34they get on the internet and they start
2:02:35hating on data centers. So, sorry we
2:02:38couldn't treat your question more fully.
2:02:40Thank you, Melody Hart, for coming in
2:02:42today. Uh, Casket Dodger,
2:02:46was it planned to Was it planned to get
2:02:48both parents to work so they have a
2:02:50little time to vote? Being too busy,
2:02:51being out of the loop. Make sure you
2:02:53bring your family to vote, please. So,
2:02:56thank you very much, Casket Dodger, for
2:02:59joining.
2:02:59>> I want I want to I want to highlight our
2:03:01friend Chicky Rogue, who's one of our
2:03:03most loyal people, and he he really does
2:03:05try and keep an eye on the chat. He had
2:03:08a very very insightful comment because I
2:03:10know people said we had a lot of bots in
2:03:12there today. He said, "I want to thank
2:03:14all the foreign Aspen Institute summer
2:03:17interns who joined us today. Always
2:03:20amusing." [laughter]
2:03:22I think you nailed it, Chicky. Good
2:03:24work.
2:03:25>> I think Chicky may be female, but I'm
2:03:27not certain about that.
2:03:28>> Okay. All right.
2:03:29>> Either way, there. [laughter]
2:03:31>> Yes.
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