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0:02Hello everyone. Welcome to Prometheian

0:05Action's live question and answer show.

0:07My name is Adam Sturman. I'm a producer

0:10here with Prometheian Action joined with

0:12the lovely Barbara Boyd and Susan Kinda.

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0:37started in just a few moments.

0:41So, Barbara, today we're going to be

0:44discussing a lot more of the political

0:46dynamics as we move into the midterm.

0:48Susan's going to be talking about it,

0:51but I believe you had something special

0:53prepared for our audience this morning.

Barbara's Open: "There's Been a Major Arrest"

0:58Hot damn for all you guys out there.

0:59There's been a major arrest and we're

1:02going to talk about it.

1:08[snorts]

1:13Okay. So, what do we got?

1:16>> All right. So yesterday the former

1:18intelligence director and financial

1:21director of the SPLC for our

1:24international audience who don't know uh

1:27what this is the SPLC

1:30uh you know basically is the centerpiece

1:34of the private intelligence operation in

1:36the United States directed at Donald

1:38Trump and has been ever since this

1:42wonderful event we had here in the

1:43United States called Charlottesville.

1:46which many people may remember was a big

1:49fight between people they said was, you

1:53know, she's she's wonderful looking. She

1:55looks the part, doesn't she? Um I hate

1:57to criticize people's looks, but when I

1:59saw her, I just said, "Wow, that sort of

2:01makes sense." Um, at any rate, um,

2:05[laughter]

2:05the the woman you see there was running

2:10informants who were actually informants

2:13in the only remaining very small uh, you

2:17know, right-wing groups in the United

2:18States like the Klux Clan, which

2:20wouldn't exist in my view if it weren't

2:23for this woman and the SPLC. What they

2:25were doing was they were pumping money

2:29into these groups to keep them alive and

2:32then they were turning around and saying

2:34to their donors, "Hey guys, there's

2:36these major terrorist racist operations

2:38in the United States linked to Donald

2:41Trump and we at the SPOC have to stop

2:44them." and they set up the whole

2:47Charlottesville rally uh where a lady

2:50got killed and essentially what happened

2:53was you had a bunch of neo-Nazis and

2:55right-wingers and then you had a bunch

2:57of counterprotesters and there was a

2:59riot and what happened in August 2017,

3:02President Trump come out and said there

3:05were decent people who were there

3:07protesting about taking down the statute

3:09of Roberty Lee, which was the

3:12obstensible reason for all of this

3:14protesting. He said, "What are we going

3:16to do? Are we going to take down George

3:17Washington's statute because he had he

3:20was a slave owner? Uh, let's where does

3:22this end?" And he basically said, "There

3:26were horrible people who were Nazis and

3:28neo-Nazis, and I condemn them, but you

3:31have to look at the other side." And

3:34what happened out of that is Joe Biden,

3:37Barack Obama, and that whole nest took

3:39the president's words that there were

3:42good people on both sides of this riot.

3:45Okay? Completely distorted what he said.

3:49And that became the reason, you won't

3:51believe this, why Joe Biden ran for

3:54president in 2020. His actual campaign

3:58announcement said, "When I saw what

4:01happened there and what Donald Trump

4:03said about it, I decided we were in a

4:06battle for the soul of our nation." It's

4:09probably the most coherent statement

4:11he's made. He's rant there are other

4:13pictures of this during the campaign

4:15where he's literally out there in his

4:17scenile self actually ranting about

4:19Charlottesville at great length. So what

4:22happened is the Justice Department

4:25brought an indictment against the whole

4:27organization and that takes out a big

4:31part of the operation against Trump.

4:33Then in the indictment yesterday, they

4:36indicted the lady who set up all these

4:38false bank accounts paying these

4:40informants. And it turned out she was

4:43actually sleeping with one of them. uh

4:46and she she she took their they took

4:49their money and you know paid for their

4:51personal living expenses out of it

4:53between she and this neo-Nazi. Okay. So

4:57this is just ripe in my opinion and I

5:02think it's going to go pretty far and

5:04you have the whole legal welfare

5:07establishment coming in to defend

5:09against this indictment. Abby Lol. May

5:12many of you out there in other parts of

5:14the country don't know, but you know

5:16Abby Lol is a DC lawyer who's the Biden

5:19family lawyer along with just about

5:21every other politician in DC who ever

5:23gets in trouble. And he's who's taking

5:26on this case to defend the SPLC. It's a

5:30very big deal because these are the

5:33people along with the ADL who define who

5:36are extremists in the United States and

5:40they're the people who actually were

5:42defining MAGA protesters and the MAGA

5:45movement as racists

5:48um you know throughout this entire

5:49period. I wrote about the

5:52Charlottesville thing when it happened

5:54and you know I I said it was really a

5:57complete intelligence community setup

5:59when it happened and I detailed some of

6:02the personnel behind that. Uh but I had

6:06really had no idea that it went this far

6:10um to say the least. So, it's a big deal

6:13and it's in many respects it's an

6:16institutional thing that you're actually

6:18taking out rather than an individual.

6:20This individual just happens to be the

6:23face of the institution. Going back in

6:25time, what happened after

6:27Charlottesville is the SPLC, this

6:30terrible organization,

6:32doubled and tripled its income and

6:37corporate executives and everybody else

6:40throughout the United States was

6:41throwing money at this organization

6:44which was actually building the racist

6:47permit which was going to be used

6:49against the president. All right, so

6:52it's really quite a story.

6:55Thank you, Barbara. And I'd like to give

6:58a big thank you to everyone tuning into

7:00our stream. Before we get to Susan, I

7:02want to give a quick shout out here to

7:04Andy Wilson. Thank you for the very

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7:28Paul Trainer, thank you for joining us

7:31every week. Our f just so many friends

7:35from across the pond. We got some funny

7:38we had a funny comment earlier before

7:40the stream started. Uh yeah, so many

7:42friends from across the pond. Thank you

7:44so much, Paul, for joining us today. So

7:47Susan, what do you have for our audience

Susan: Detroit's Verdict

7:50this morning?

7:52Well, look, I want to build on that

7:53because uh what the s the Southern

7:57Poverty Law Center story, which is is

7:59just part of British Intelligence's

8:03toolkit

8:04uh to keep people in a box where they

8:07control the ideologies, they control the

8:10cho choices, it's left versus right,

8:13it's Democrat versus Republican, what

8:16whatever what whatever the the binaries

8:19they want to feed you. That's how

8:20they've essentially controlled politics

8:23for a whole lot of the post-war period.

8:26But then along came Donald Trump and

8:28really began to break open that box by

8:32bringing an entirely new element in to

8:36the political process um which is

8:40restoring the American system of

8:42political economy and rebuilding our

8:45middle class and our working class which

8:47then has a particular political aspect

8:51to it which I believe the president is

8:53very conscious of. So last week and over

8:56the course of this week with Barbara and

8:58my uh uh other YouTube shows, we've

9:01we've dug into the question of Abdul

9:05Alied, the Democratic Socialist uh

9:09nominee for Senate here in Michigan. Um

9:12and we've gone into his British and

9:15Imperial bonafides. And I really

9:17encourage people uh to look at what

9:20we've produced. And there's going to be

9:22a whole lot more because again, one of

9:24the other boxes that they want to put

9:26you in is Muslim versus anti-Muslim. Um,

9:30and that is a false box. And I'm going

9:32to say it right up front and I don't

9:34care how many people are upset by that.

9:36There is political radical Islam which

9:38is an arm of British intelligence. It is

9:41extremely dangerous and that's what

9:44Abdul Elsed is part of that larger

9:48apparatus. Um but the the the critical

9:53qu conception is that President Trump is

9:57taking us out of these controlled

9:59choices and it's having a particular

10:01political impact at this moment because

10:04one of the one of the things that we saw

10:07and this is what I'm going to develop

10:08here. One of the things that we saw uh

10:11in the Michigan election which I want

10:13people to be highly conscious of uh is

10:16what happened in the city of Detroit.

10:18Detroit is a city which is like 80%

10:20black. Um, and you know in in in the

10:24Southern Poverty Law Cent's fantasy

10:27world, right, of left versus right, the

10:30people of Detroit who are are the poor,

10:33downtrodden, etc., etc. They're all

10:36going to vote for Abdul Elsed. Wrong.

10:39Uh, here's how the vote worked out. It

10:41was it was primarily a two-way race as

10:44people know. Haley Stevens, the

10:46establishmentbacked Democratic

10:48candidate, and Abdul Elsed. But there

10:50was still a third person on the ballot,

10:52Mallerie McMaro,

10:54uh, who had dropped out and endorsed

10:57Haley Stevens. McMaro and Haley Stevens

11:00are white women. Okay? Uh, white middle

11:03class or upper class women, whatever.

11:05You know, here's El Abdul El Say, the

11:08face of the revolution of the poor and

11:10downtrodden.

11:12Uh Haley Stevens and McMaro got twice as

11:15many votes as El Say in the city of

11:18Detroit. The black voters in the city of

11:20Detroit voted for the two white ladies.

11:23And obviously it had absolutely nothing

11:24to do with the color of anybody's skin

11:27because they reject

11:29this radical insanity

11:32which the elites are pushing at this

11:34particular point. Now, President Trump

11:37was quite conscious of that. Um Whoops.

11:40So, I'm going to share the screen if I

11:41hit the right button.

11:43Oh, come on.

11:46He was quite conscious of that and he uh

11:48he

11:51posted

11:52uh that.

12:04Why am I there? No, wrong one.

12:08There we go. Sorry. I'll do better next

12:10time. Uh he posted that in a truth that

12:13he put out. Uh he said, "Black and brown

12:16voters don't want communism or

12:18socialism. Not surprisingly, they're

12:21flocking to the Republican party. They

12:23remember that Abraham Lincoln was a

12:25Republican president. Uh was a

12:28Republican, President Donald J. Trump.

12:31Um now that that's that's very precise.

12:35That's very important that he said that

12:37because as and as we've been saying all

12:39along, the essence of President Trump's

12:42thrust, what the MAGA movement has to

12:45consciously become, Trump gets it, and

12:47we got to make sure the MAGA movement

12:49gets it is the new Republican party of

12:52Abraham Lincoln. Uh the the the new

12:55Republican party that harks back to

12:58Abraham Lincoln's policies. And of

13:00course, what have we seen in the city of

13:02Detroit and elsewhere? you've had a kind

13:04of automatic knee-jerk nobody ever

13:07thinks about the Republicans. So, um,

13:10Adam, we can stop sharing that or I can

13:13stop sharing that now. Uh, I want Adam

13:16to play, um, and a video excerpt. Uh,

The Mary Waters Clip

13:20let me give it a little bit of

13:21introduction. Uh, this was from the

13:24local news here in Michigan a couple of

13:26days ago. And I think and when I saw

13:28this, I was saying, "Wow, I've never

13:31seen anything represent more powerfully

13:35the potential that we have to completely

13:38reshape politics in the United States

13:40away from these phony divisions, which

13:43is how the empire works, to a

13:46broad-based political movement of people

13:49who want to produce, who want to have a

13:51future, who still love this country,

13:54whatever their skin color, whatever

13:56their religion, if they love this

13:57country. They are part of this

13:59coalition. And I will say it again

14:02because I'm not going to back off on

14:04this. There are many Muslims in this

14:06country who love this country and they

14:09are part of this coalition as well. But

14:11the clip that Adam is about to show you

14:14is one which shows I think something

14:17absolutely amazing happening in the city

14:20of Detroit. Because again, as the

14:23president said, black and brown voters

14:25don't want to be communists or

14:26socialists. So, this is an interview

14:28that one of our local newscasters had

14:30with a uh longtime Detroit city council

14:33woman named Mary Waters who had a very

14:36interesting um breakfast either earlier

14:40that day or the day before. She had

14:42breakfast with the Republican

14:45senatorial candidate. I don't know when

14:48anything like this has happened. So,

14:50Adam, if you could play that clip.

14:56>> You might sense a common theme tonight,

14:58which seems to be a divide in the

15:00Democratic State Party. Well, Detroit

15:03Councilwoman Mary Waters sitting down

15:05with us after talking to Republican Mike

15:07Rogers this morning. So, Mary, thanks

15:10for being here. How was your breakfast

15:12this morning?

15:13>> It was great. It was a great

15:15conversation. And you know, Charlie is

15:17an individual, an elected city council

15:20member representing nearly 700,000

15:24people throughout this city. It was very

15:27important that I took the time to hear

15:30what Mike Rogers had to say, his plans

15:33for the city of Detroit. And he talked

15:36about um the land use plans for that. We

15:39talked we discussed skilled trades. Uh

15:42we discussed um seniors, uh veterans.

15:47Mike Rogers has a plan for all of those

15:49categories. Now, let me tell you, he

15:51says, um Mary, I don't expect to win the

15:55city of Detroit. He said that.

15:57>> Yeah.

15:57>> But at the same time, he says, but I do

16:00want people to know that that I care,

16:03that I want to listen, that I have a

16:05plan.

16:05>> Is this something that did Well, what

16:09you like what you heard? I'm assuming

16:11>> I do like what I heard and I want

16:12Detroititers to be able to hear what

16:15I've heard because because Charlie

16:17listen let me tell you this. We cannot

16:19continue to stay on the same plantation,

16:23Democratic plantation or even Republican

16:26plantation. We have got to allow pe

16:29people hear from other people. here.

16:31What they have to I have to as an

16:34elected official have to make sure that

16:37people know what to expect from all of

16:41the candidates and I want the charters

16:43to hear from them. Now they get to make

16:46up their own mind. Charlie Mary Waters

16:48is not going to do that for them.

16:53>> There's a little bit more Adam. There's

16:55just a little break.

16:56>> The skill trade task force. I created

16:58the first veterans. I I also chaired the

17:01skill trade task force. I created the

17:04first veterans department at the city of

17:06Detroit. We don't treat our veterans

17:09right here, not just here in in in the

17:12city, but not in the state of Michigan,

17:14not even in the country.

17:15>> Why don't Detroititers vote for

17:18Republicans in big numbers?

17:20>> Well, because they've just been

17:21conditioned to voting for for Democrats.

17:24And maybe it's because they can relate

17:26to more of the issues that the Democrats

17:29put out, but I want them to keep an open

17:32mind and look at all of the candidates.

17:36Okay, that's how you break a controlled

17:38environment, right? You just let people

17:41listen to the fact that the person who's

17:44been demonized

17:46is a nice person. And notice the things

17:49that she focused on. She said twice in

17:51there, his his commitment to skilled

17:54trades. Everybody that has followed us

17:57know that this is one of our passions

17:59that the way you rebuild the middle

18:01class and the working class is you

18:03revive the bluecollar jobs, you revive

18:05the skilled trades, you give people the

18:07kind of jobs where one income can raise

18:10a family. That is the story of Detroit.

18:12People in Detroit know that and that's

18:14why they didn't vote for Abdul Elsed.

18:18And I think this is extremely important

18:20going for. I mean, I'm sure people also

18:22notice, get off the plantation, Mary

18:25Waters said, right? You know, you don't

18:28have to be told by your masters any

18:30longer who to vote for. Go think for

18:33yourself. That's all you need in these

18:36circumstances is for people to finally

18:39start to think for themselves. But the

18:41emphasis that she put on the skilled

18:44trades, I think, is extremely important

18:46because this this is the window into the

18:50essential message for the midterm

18:53elections. How do you feat defeat a

18:55socialist communist threat? You defeat

18:57it by showing them the system that

18:59worked, which is not globalization, by

19:01the way. It is the American system of

19:03production. And that's what the

19:05president is doing. I want to share one

19:07more slide uh here.

Trump's Oklahoma Tell

19:11Um, this is something the president

19:13tweeted today and I found it extremely

19:15important that he had done this.

19:20It's an endorsement

19:24of um the Oklahoma governor in the

19:27upcoming governor's race. Um, his name

19:30is Mike Massie, but he's running against

19:33a rhino. And I think it's extremely

19:35important. Uh Trump identifies that his

19:38opponent uh was part of the

19:40anti-American Lincoln project, which is

19:42an anti-Trump project. Uh but then he

19:46highlights that this rhino is trying to

19:50stop the uh uh construction of a here's

19:55Trump's words a he wants to dethrone a

19:58magnificent job producing desperately

20:00needed and brand new aluminum plant that

20:03will be one of the best projects ever

20:05conceived or built not only for the

20:07great state of Oklahoma but in the

20:09United States. it will be one of the

20:11most successful job creating plants ever

20:14built in our country. And the group

20:16that's and and then he says the group

20:18that's trying to shut it down is

20:19extremely wealthy. And if they don't do

20:22it in you uh the the group that wants to

20:25build it is extraordinarily wealthy. If

20:27they don't do it in Oklahoma, they're

20:29going to do it someplace else. And then

20:31again he uses this to endorse very very

20:34strongly um the gubanatorial candidate

20:38who is fighting to uh keep this aluminum

20:41plant going. So, um I think I thought

20:45that was very very important that the

20:48president picked up on a critical

20:51economic issue and in fact in our

20:54current halfpage flyer we highlight that

20:56particular aluminum plant in terms of

20:58the number of jobs and things that it

21:00needs to bring in. I I just want to wrap

21:03up this opening from the standpoint that

21:05it is so stressing it is so important

21:09that that while the president dismantles

21:13the enemy's apparatus whether it's the

21:15Southern Poverty Law Center while they

21:18eviscerate socialism and communism all

21:21of which you need to do that you do not

21:24lose focus on the me the positive

21:27message of the economic renaissance

21:30which is out there because you can see

21:33how that resonated with black voters in

21:35Detroit. And if we do what we have to do

21:38properly, we're going to come out of

21:39these midterm elections with a new

21:42political formation, which will be a

21:44majority of people in this country of

21:47all racial backgrounds and religious

21:49backgrounds. the Americans who are

21:51committed to building this country and

21:53then the crazies and the dangerous

21:55extremists will be a little teeny tiny

21:57minority over there in a corner and half

21:59of them will have already gone to jail.

22:04>> Thank you, Susan. Thank you to everyone

22:07watching us on YouTube and X.com. Just a

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22:47experience. But right now, we are

22:49broadcasting to two streams. And I am

22:52getting super chats from both streams

22:54this time. So, let's go and take some

Drew: "Is This Connected to the LaRouche Movement?"

22:57super chats here real quick. The first

22:59one here, I brother, I laughed so hard

23:02at this. Barbara, if I say too much or

23:04say too much, please tell me I can't say

23:06this. Is Prometheian action connected to

23:08the old LaRouche movement that came to

23:11my campus in 2004? So that was the

23:13University of Toledo. I had a little

23:15discussion. Thank thank you Drew for

23:17letting me know. I enjoy your content

23:19and message. When you mention Larouche,

23:21I always think of the culty movement.

23:23Okay. Well, the LaRouche youth movement

23:25was really unique. I was part of that

23:28whole process and movement back in 2004.

23:32In fact, I was in Ohio at the time. I

23:35don't remember if I was actually in

23:37Toledo, but I spent many months in 2004

23:41in Ohio. On the cult thing though, you

23:44know, I I reflect on this a lot.

23:46Definitely not a cult. I think if you

23:48want to look at the political cult, you

23:50should look at what the left has

23:51basically done to the entire Democratic

23:53party. [laughter]

23:56And I I and to comment and just to to

23:58complete the comment on this uh I don't

24:01want to say too much about you know our

24:04history because we do have a lot of

24:06legal stuff surrounding it but we

24:08basically did go through a split and

24:10some of those cult people in the past uh

24:12ended up in [snorts] the Democratic

24:14party still. So I think those old

24:17cultlike things have been excised and

24:20now we're better than anything we were

24:22doing in the past. We're going to build

24:24a youth movement too. It's going to take

24:25some time. So, thank you, Drew. Uh,

24:27Barbara Barbara and Susan, any thoughts

24:29on this one because, you know, people

24:32people are we don't hide it at all.

24:34People find out that we previously were

24:36associated with with a different organiz

24:38any any comments you

24:40>> I just I just have to say we're not

24:42associated with the current Helga

24:44Zeppelouch

24:46operation. Okay. Uh because we disagreed

24:49with them politically. Uh but you know,

24:52it wasn't a cult. there was a bunch of

24:54people who really fought about ideas and

24:57you don't find that in a cult the way

24:59that we fought about ideas to say the

25:01least. Um, you know, and and basically

25:04what the cult characterization came

25:07pretty late in the FBI CIA attacks on

25:11LaRouche, right? In other words, first

25:13he was a communist, then he was a

25:16right-wing uh you know, kind of genus

25:20conigure, you know, who was going to

25:21murder the human race, and then you

25:24know, they settled on this idea that,

25:26you know, it sounds pretty nasty. You're

25:28brainwasher in a cult. Th this was a,

25:31you know, as Ramsey Clark said, a bunch

25:34of book people, all right, a bunch of

25:36people who loved history, read, you

25:39know, love science. Basically, it was a

25:41university on wheels. Um, but you know,

25:45uh, disagreement and you know, some kind

25:48of David Caresh figure being Linda

25:50LaRouche. No way, Jose. That was

25:52completely much much different than

25:54that. uh and you know uh if you go back

25:57and look you know there's a reason why

26:01Norman Bailey said uh who was the you

26:04know the big economist on the Reagan

26:06security council that we had the best

26:09private intelligence operation in the

26:11entire world um because we basically

26:14said hey if you're going to run a

26:16political movement in the United States

26:17you have to learn about the whole world

26:19because that's how politics functions

26:22and you better be damn good about it and

26:24you better be Right. And Lyndon was a

26:27great teacher uh in that respect of

26:30trying to show you political dynamics,

26:33not these kind of nounike, you know,

26:36lattice structures which everybody

26:37constructs is really what it's about.

26:40It's about change and how do you measure

26:42change? Um and I've never heard of a

26:46cult that actually tried to do that. So

26:48[laughter]

26:49that's what I'd have to say about that.

26:51>> Yeah. There's one other aspect of that

26:53that I do want to bring in because you

26:55know Barbara and I both and and our

26:58channels get people because because

27:00we're not running around saying the Jews

27:02run everything. You probably noticed we

27:04don't say that. Um uh people say, "Oh,

27:07well then you're obviously Zionists.

27:09You're obviously in the payroll of the

27:11Zionists and so on." And I honestly I

27:13just crack up when I hear that because

27:16part of the attack on us back in the 70s

27:19and the 80s, a coordinated attack which

27:22came through the FBI, came through

27:24intelligence channels open and which

27:27called us a cult, which called us Nazis,

27:29which called us dangerous, which called

27:31us anti-semitic and so on. The

27:34Anti-Defamation League was was

27:36officially part of a get larouche

27:39coalition back in the 1970s and the

27:421980s. So, you know, people say, "Well,

27:45you're obviously Zionist. You're paid

27:46for by Apac. In fact, I ran into

27:49somebody like this at one of the polls."

27:51When it was just a question of I said,

27:53"Are you voting Republican?" Because you

27:55need to find out whether they're going

27:56to vote on your side of the ballot

27:58before you bother to talk to me. He

27:59says, "Are you being paid by Apac?" And

28:02when when he came out, I said, "Sunny, I

28:04was fighting the mother of Apac before

28:06you were even born, [laughter] you know,

28:09and it kind of caught him up short." And

28:10then we ended up having a good

28:12discussion. Uh, but I did want to bring

28:14up that ADL aspect of this. Um, because

28:17it really is extremely lazy at best,

28:22ignorant,

28:23sort of in the middle and malicious for

28:26people who know better to uh, claim that

28:29we're in the payroll of Apac.

28:33>> Thank you, Susan. Thank you, Barbara.

28:35Thank you to everyone tuning in. Drew

28:37came in with a second thing to clarify

28:39and I think we'll take a quick detour to

28:41talk about something. I always like

28:43talking to them. I just didn't want to

28:45drop out of college and go on the road,

28:47but everyone I talked to the group was

28:49interesting. Thank you. Uh what I would

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30:57more super chats. I'm going to read a

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31:00to get some questions. Uh Java just says

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31:09Java Awol Stew know you're loved and

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Musa: Perot, Buchanan, Nader โ€” Why Trump?

31:26for joining us today. And here we have a

31:29good questions. Uh,

31:32Musa, I guess Iranian from can Canada.

31:36Thank you very much for joining us

31:38today. Greetings, Mrs. Kinda. Do you

31:42think the reason why America got Trump

31:44in 2016 is because we did not get Ross

31:48Perau in 1992, Pat Buchanan in 2000, and

31:52Ralph Nater in 2008?

31:56Thank you very much for your question.

31:58Susan, your thoughts? No, I think that's

32:01a very good question. Uh, obviously

32:03seeds were planted uh especially by Ross

32:06Perau with the giant sucking sound and

32:09Pat Buchanan uh who was a a very

32:12different character. He was, you know, a

32:14kind of pre-Trump character. Nater.

32:18Nater is not really in the same

32:20category, but he obviously addressed

32:22people who who thought that there was

32:24something wrong. And at least they began

32:26to raise his solutions were not right.

32:29But Buchanan and Perau were a little

32:32closer to where where you actually

32:36identify and begin to solve the

32:37problems. But I'm going to rephrase that

32:39question given the conversation that we

32:41just had. Um, do you think the reason

32:44why Trump got America got Trump in 2016

32:47is because we did not get Lyndon

32:48LaRouche in the 1980s? [laughter]

32:51Because before Ross Perau was saying

32:53this and in fact his famous halfhour

32:55infomercial where he warned about NAFTA

32:58and he said this was going to lead to a

33:00giant sucking sound taking all of our

33:02jobs and sending them to Asia. That

33:04infomercial was based on the

33:06infomercials that we did. We did scores

33:09of them through Larouche's presidential

33:12campaigns in the 1980s which millions of

33:15people saw and they sat there scratching

33:17their heads saying, "Holy crap, how can

33:19somebody be on NBC at 10:55 at night

33:25actually saying these things about the

33:28trilateral commission and Henry

33:30Kissinger being a Soviet agent and

33:33attacking environmentalism."

33:35>> We got to dig up some of those

33:37broadcasts, man. They were a hoot. And

33:39to know that they were on prime time

33:41television,

33:42>> prime time, because you could buy a half

33:44hour of prime time for $250,000

33:47back then and millions of people saw

33:50them. But but I think it's extremely

33:52important to understand and and this is

33:54sort of the through thread from LaRouche

33:57to Trump is LaRouche was was came under

34:00vicious attack, both slanders and legal

34:03attack. One of the people who indicted

34:05him was Robert Mueller. And we have a

34:07pamphlet that goes through this. It's

34:10entitled Why the British kill murder

34:12American presidents, but the last

34:14section of it um is on Trump and it

34:18draws some of the parallels to the the

34:20attacks that that we had on us. Um but

34:24he was framed up. He was thrown in jail.

34:26Um and and look what happened with a lot

34:28of people and and and this is the

34:30importance of of true leadership is they

34:34say, "Oh, no. We're never going to get

34:35anywhere." you know, here was a guy who

34:37said things I didn't think anybody was

34:38ever going to say and they framed him up

34:40and they threw him in jail and then

34:42people put their heads down. So, yes,

34:45you did have Perau and Buchanan kind of

34:47reviving a kind of spirit, but look, the

34:50the issue of Trump and his courage

34:53cannot be minimized because it's not

34:56just that he stands for what he stands

34:58for that it doesn't matter. He stands

35:01and fights. We all know the iconic fight

35:04fight fight image but that captures

35:07everything and as much as important as

35:10the policies are that quality of fight

35:14is absolutely indispensable because

35:16without that too many people don't have

35:19the courage to do this on their own or

35:21alone and and that's the importance of

35:24Trump and the MAGA movement and that's

35:27why so much effort is being spent right

35:31now to demoralize ize it, distract it,

35:33and so on. Um, which is why we're here

35:37because we have to sound the certain

35:39trumpet in terms of what the fight is,

35:43uh, with with a clarity that I don't

35:46think anybody else has.

35:50>> Thank you very much, Susan.

35:53And thank you to our Iranian friends

35:56from Canada. I recently found out that a

36:00lot of you guys and gals are following

36:03us very closely. So, thank I I see your

36:06other questions, too. We'll get to them

36:08as the show goes on. Thank you very much

36:10for joining us. Um

36:13Dne Dne, thank you very much for joining

36:16us again this week. Always enjoy having

36:19you here.

Daniel: Bohemian Grove

36:21Daniel on site says, "I used to work for

36:24very high profile clients. too much to

36:27discuss, but Bohemian Grove was part of

36:30it. Regardless, party, just too much to

36:32discuss. Uh,

36:34yes, I don't know what part of the thing

36:36you're referring to, but thank you

36:38Daniel on site for joining us today. Uh,

36:41any Barbara, Susan, any comments about

36:43Bohemian Grove?

36:46Well, that's a pretty famous

36:48[clears throat] runchy uh elite

36:50gathering uh in in around San Francisco,

36:54California uh which occurred back in the

36:5770s and 80s and 90s with pretty much

37:00regularity where all of them would go

37:02there. They went to the Grove as it's

37:05described in their various talks about

37:08it and hang out during the summertime

37:10and do god knows what. Um I I don't

37:14really I mean there's all sorts of stuff

37:16out there about what actually went on

37:18there and who what kind of sexual

37:21perversions were actually being

37:23practiced. Um but you know it was kind

37:26of like a a runchy uh you know elite

37:30gathering which everybody went to who

37:32was anybody. Um and that's probably what

37:35you're referring to Daniel. uh and kind

37:38of I assume you have some inside

37:40information about some of that and if

37:42you could if you feel comfortable about

37:44outlining it I'm really very interested

37:47in that because part of the larouche

37:50prosecutions actually was an email you

37:53know I enjoyed seeing you at the grove

37:57uh and here's the next step in what

37:59we're doing here against Linda Larouche

38:01so um I've always been very interested

38:04in what goes on at the grove

38:09Thank you very much, Daniel. Thank you,

38:11Barbara. Thank you, Susan. So many. I'm

38:13going to go through a few more super

38:14chats here. Greg, I don't remember

38:17seeing your name here. Thank you so much

38:19for the $20. Make sure you're subscribed

38:21to our email newsletter. Fender man,

38:24awesome to see you here again every

38:26week.

38:29DNE sent in a funny comment. Says,

38:31"Enforcing belief in pregnant men might

38:34be a cult.

38:38Oh my gosh. Oh, the level of mental

38:41gymnastics that's occurring on the left

38:43is truly truly astounding.

38:47Pregnant people, right? I don't birthing

38:50what I call them birthing people or

38:52something.

38:53>> Yes. It's not a mother, it's a birthing

38:55person.

38:56>> It's a birthing person. You know what?

38:58Geez crazy world we live in. Thank you

Bob & Eddie: Can Democrats Stop a Socialist Capture?

39:00so much, Dane, for joining us. Okay,

39:03let's go to some questions from our

39:05email newsletter. Uh, I'm sorry I forgot

39:08to send out the Tuesday invitation

39:10email. I got overloaded here. I'm still

39:12moving from across country and stuff.

39:14Uh, but we still got a bunch of

39:15questions in. So, let me just start with

39:17the first ones here, which is going to

39:19be on the Democratic Party and their

39:21their new brand of their new socialist

39:24branding that have come really started

39:26hitting over the last few years. So Bob

39:28says, "What justification do Democrats

39:30think they have to protect America from

39:34socialist capture when the party

39:36demonstrates that they are not even able

39:38to prevent party capture from radical

39:41socialists? Even beer guzzling Wisconsin

39:44voters are not that inept." Thank you,

39:47Bob. And Eddie says, "As a followup, do

39:51the Democrats and the media understand

39:53the implications for their opposition to

39:55the American system, or do they simply

39:58adhere to the party line?"

40:04Barbara and Susan,

40:10I guess that means I start. Um,

40:13[laughter]

40:15>> look, the Democratic Party has a

40:17terrible history, uh, which most people

40:19know. I mean, if you look back on the

40:22Confederacy and you actually think about

40:24all of that, you realize that was really

40:27awful and they were this the the, you

40:30know, basic protectors of the

40:33slaveocracy in the South during the

40:35Civil War. So, that's where we start.

40:37Okay. We get some relief with FDR's uh

40:42you know World War II mobilization where

40:44he actually embraced the American system

40:47of political economy. We get some we get

40:50some intelligence from John F. Kennedy.

40:52Uh but you know stepping out of line

40:56there was you know basically get your

40:58shot. you know, even Bill Clinton had

41:02some very intelligent uh proposals uh

41:06when he wasn't uh losing his ability to

41:09keep his zipper closed. Um so, you know,

41:12the the the kind of thing which is going

41:16on now is this party after Obama changed

41:21uh from any kind of traditional American

41:24political party. uh when you see uh the

41:27people who are defecting now uh into the

41:30Republicans, some of them uh like the

41:34lawyer Julian Epstein who used to work

41:36for the uh judiciary committee in the

41:39House uh just declared that he's

41:41changing parties because the party has

41:43gone completely off the deep end and it

41:46has. um you can't find that much of a

41:50distinction between these radical

41:54crazies who they've let loose at this

41:56point and what Barack Obama or Joe Biden

42:00were actually pushing. I mean, you know,

42:03they the Biden and Obama programs were

42:06dressed up in nice language, but they

42:09went to the same completely destructive

42:11place um that you see with these

42:14neolists who are are the uh you know,

42:17people who are out to, as they

42:18themselves say, destroy Western

42:20civilization.

42:22Um, and you know, Barack Obama embraced

42:26the entire green agenda from the

42:29globalists and that was about taking

42:32down all modern industrial societies and

42:37getting right back to feudalism,

42:40which is they think that's the kind of

42:42situation where you basically, as

42:45Susan's friend said, [snorts]

42:48get on the plantation rather than off

42:50the plantation. So that's what's going

42:53on in the Democratic party. There's

42:55really no fundamental difference between

42:58a Barack Obama and the crazies he's

43:02actually setting loose here. All right.

43:04And if you look what I did in my video,

43:07which was a little dense, Adam told me,

43:09and you know, I think that's probably

43:10true. But what I did in my video was

43:13that, you know, I tried to go through

43:15the fact that all of these candidates

43:17who are out there in the media have

43:20direct links to Barack Obama. You know,

43:23Abdul Elsa didn't just start talking to

43:26Barack Obama nicely last week after the

43:30election. Uh when you actually look at

43:32his bio and you look at who's supporting

43:34him, uh it's very clear he's completely

43:37soros funded. Uh, and you know, if you

43:41know the history of it, it was George

43:43Soros, a British agent. A lot of people

43:46treat him the wrong way. He was a

43:48British agent. Um, sent exactly for the

43:52same purpose. Look at the policies he

43:55sponsored. You're talking about

43:56destroying Western civilization.

43:59Well, what does flooding the nation with

44:01dope do? Source was for that. You want

44:05to destroy the nation, what does open

44:07borders do? George Soros was almost the

44:10originator of that entire policy called

44:14for open society formation so-called.

44:17You want to destroy a nation, get them

44:20completely obsessed with sex and sexual

44:23identity and actually go out to destroy

44:26the family and call it a patriarchy.

44:28George Soros was for that. So was Barack

44:32Obama. It's the same policy. Destroy the

44:35United States. They just dress it up in

44:38better language than the, you know,

44:42crazy commie terrorist operation of the

44:44Democratic Party actually does. these

44:47people. I'm sure when we actually get to

44:50the number of the investigation, you you

44:52all know that in the summer of 2020,

44:55there was a planned overthrow of the

44:58entire American government by Obama's

45:02forces in the CIA uh and in the academic

45:06sphere and in the Democratic party. It

45:09was called the Transition Integrity

45:11Project. And in that point, they said

45:14they needed two things. And they, this

45:16is what they're talking about. They're

45:17talking about overthrowing the

45:19government. All right? We need two

45:22things. The military, which you could

45:25argue that General Millie was really on

45:27board with the whole thing, and we need

45:31the [clears throat] people who just did

45:32all the Black Lives Matter uh

45:34destruction of the country to actually

45:37be a little bit more disciplined and

45:39actually follow our orders. That's what

45:41was in that policy. The same grouping

45:46during the summer of 2020 planned, it's

45:51just come out, actually planned many

45:54elements of January 6th. What are we

45:57going to do if Trump won't leave? What

45:59are we going to do if he challenges the

46:00election? Well, let's just have a riot,

46:03okay? And let's do some of these things

46:05which actually happened on January 6th.

46:09So this is the evil force we face but

46:14it's not new in the Democratic party.

46:18It's the the current formation starts

46:21with one guy Barack Hussein Obama

46:24running essentially the same shtick

46:27which these younger people are doing.

46:29The older generation is oified. The

46:32older political establishment is

46:34corrupt. I'm Barack Obama. I'm a young

46:37man, dynamic, charismatic, and I'm for

46:40hope and change.

46:42All right, just look at what happened.

46:452008, 2009, he stood up and said, "I'm

46:49the person who's keeping the pitchfork

46:52away from you in a big meeting with the

46:54New York banks." What did he do? He

46:57bailed all of them out along with all

46:58the European banks, all the

47:00international banks on the back of the

47:03American and middle class who he said,

47:06"I'm the new guy who's here to represent

47:09you." So there's really that's that's

47:12how I'd put it and that's how I think

47:14that's the battle I think we're facing.

47:17>> Yeah. And I think there's an aspect to

47:19this. Um again, it comes back to the

47:22fact that Donald Trump has created a new

47:24movement.

47:26It it already existed in 2016 when it

47:28put him into office. You saw it in 2024

47:31when he took the swing states and the

47:33blue states back with enough votes that

47:35we could make it too big to rig and win.

47:38And now you see this other potential,

47:41you know, move of normal people, black

47:44Detroititers and others toward a a new

47:47new Republican party of Abraham Lincoln,

47:50which means that some of these uh more

47:54nicely dressed up enemy operations are

47:58not working any longer. And the way what

48:02I see in terms of them activating this

48:05radical extremist wing of the party is

48:08that one of the options from the

48:10oligarchy, one of the options from the

48:12elites is if we can't stop Donald Trump,

48:15we're just going to bring the whole damn

48:17thing down. We're just going to try and

48:18destroy the United States. Frankly, it's

48:20what they tried to do with the Civil

48:21War. you know, in order to stop the

48:24growth, the maturation, the power of the

48:28American system from from developing,

48:32they literally tried to destroy the

48:34nation and split it into a whole bunch

48:36of little pieces. So, this is this is a

48:40similar kind of operation, but but I

48:42think it's important for people to

48:44recognize it's coming from a position of

48:47panic that they have not stopped Trump.

48:50He did come back in 2024. He is carrying

48:54out this economic revolution. Would it

48:57be faster if he didn't have roadblocks

48:59like the Supreme Court and judges and a

49:02Congress which, you know, supports him

49:0510% of the time if he's lucky? Yeah, it

49:08would be going a lot faster. But it's

49:10happening. We're having it. We We He has

49:13launched an economic revolution. And the

49:16more people get off the plantation and

49:19say, "Wow, yeah, that's the future that

49:20I want. That's certainly the future I

49:22want for my kid." Uh, the more desperate

49:25these guys get. And they the more they

49:27get into the mo mode of just burn the

49:29whole thing down. Uh, which is what I

49:32which is an aspect of activating this

49:34particular operation that they have.

49:37Doesn't mean they don't have other ones.

49:39They've got they they've got, you know,

49:41over there in, you know, in a package

49:44the so-called, you know, the Mark Carney

49:46with their globalism 2.0 and their

49:49Alyssa Slotkins and their Mark Kelly's

49:51and whoever else they might want to

49:53package as a non crazy. But right now,

49:56what's been activated is this, you know,

49:59after me the deluge, you know, just burn

50:01it down.

50:06>> Thank you, Susan. Thank you, Barbara.

50:08And thank you to all of our wonderful

50:10audience here joining us today. I have

50:12so many super quick chats here. I'm

50:14gonna try and get through some more. So,

50:16let's stay on topic here. I first quick

50:19shout out here to Hawkspan. Thank you so

50:21much for joining us. I wish a million

50:23more would join the effort. Well, help

50:25recruit somebody. [laughter]

50:27Help recruit somebody. Just one person.

50:29Just focus on one person. Trying to find

50:31one person you can talk to. So, thank

50:33you for joining us. Hawks and Debbora.

Dora: Working Families Party & SEIU

50:36Hi Barb, Adam and Susan from from

50:40Connecticut Working Families Party and

50:42the Services Employee International

50:43Union campaigned for and helped a DSA

50:47Democrat win. Is there a socialism

50:50component to this? And how do I expose

50:54this to acquaintances?

50:58Thank you very much for your question.

51:01Well, they say it. I mean, you know, you

51:04you should just take a look at the at

51:06the DSA. Just Google it, Democrat

51:09Socialist of America. They'll lay

51:11they'll lay it out right there on their

51:13page. You should particularly look at

51:15their platform statement, which you're

51:17hearing a lot about on the uh you know,

51:20news channels at this point. We're

51:22calling for

51:24uh abolishing the Senate uh you know,

51:28make abolishing the office of the

51:30president as it currently exists. uh

51:32abolishing the Supreme Court as it

51:35exists and everybody should basically

51:39report to the Congress. All right, that

51:42becomes the key uh open institution.

51:45Well, does that remind you of anything

51:48like parliament in Britain or you know

51:52uh some of these other things? Britain,

51:53by the way, uh the Labor Party is

51:56explicitly socialist. Um, and they'll

51:59tell you that they and just look up

52:01Fabian Socialism

52:03uh in your on on your Google searches

52:06there and you'll see that Tony Blair uh

52:09the whole Labor Party will tell you that

52:11they're socialist but what they call

52:14central centralist socialists. All

52:16right. Um and and that is that they they

52:20the the biggest crime of socialism and

52:24communisms are twofold. One is their

52:26atheism and materialism. Uh and the

52:29second is their downgrading of the

52:34individual in favor of the collective.

52:37All right. Actual history is made by

52:41individuals.

52:42All right? By by the Elon Musk, by the

52:45grand inventors of the world who invent

52:48whole new technologies, etc. And in the

52:51American system, what we say, what

52:54Hamilton said, what Kerry said, what all

52:56of the authors of the American system

52:58say is we exist to support what we call

53:03labor power. All right? It's not capital

53:07that actually makes an economy work.

53:09It's the human individual inspired to

53:12make new discoveries so that the life of

53:15the next generation can be better than

53:18our own. All right? And that in a

53:20nutshell is the difference between the

53:23two systems. Communism will tell you,

53:25okay, there's a fixed set of goods and

53:28what we ought to do is redistribute them

53:30from the very rich to the very poor so

53:33that everybody's sensual sensual, you

53:36know, kind of foundations in life, what

53:38to eat, uh, you know, all this stuff I

53:41can buy, all of this other stuff is

53:43satisfied.

53:45uh what the American system says is we

53:49reward completely

53:52uh creativity by the individual. That's

53:55what should be the barometer of what we

53:57actually think is the best for society.

54:01So

54:02again, it's all very publicly available.

54:05The Democrat Socialists of America say

54:08it all right. the the families and the

54:12the the working families party, the SEIU

54:15in in recent period have actually

54:18operated adjacent to the DSA. They're

54:22the same thing for all practical

54:24purposes. So, you just ask whoever is in

54:28the Working Families Party or the SEIU,

54:31um, do you know about the American

54:33system? They'll say no. Have no idea

54:35about it. Second, are you a socialist?

54:38Do you believe that socialism is better

54:40than capitalism? Now, a distinction.

54:43We're not defending the capitalism of

54:46you what happened in 2008

54:49or the capitalism of derivative

54:52speculation or the capitalism of the yen

54:54carry trade which is making our economy

54:57a casino.

54:59We're talking about what Donald Trump is

55:01doing to rebuild an entire productive

55:05economy. uh which is a completely

55:07different proposition.

55:09>> Uh yeah, let me let me add in a little

55:11correction here. She sent in something

55:13and says GSA is general assembly

55:15candidate, not DSA.

55:17>> Okay,

55:18>> so she maybe Yeah, I'm sorry. I just I I

55:21I don't know the specifics about what's

55:24going on there, but um maybe Susan, you

55:27would have a better idea about this

55:29general assembly issue.

55:32>> Well, uh go back to the original

55:34question. Sorry.

55:35>> Yeah, let me pull it up here.

55:38Here we go.

55:40>> Yeah. I mean, um, she's just saying

55:44that, um, you had these two other

55:47organizations, the Working Families

55:49Party and the SEIU, that helps somebody

55:52win a a state legislative race. Um, yes,

55:55there is a socialism component to both.

55:58here in Michigan, uh, the Working

56:00Families Party and the Workers Party has

56:02always been kind of used as a monkey

56:05wrench. You know, they get on the ballot

56:07as a third party and then they've been

56:09used to siphon votes from, you know,

56:12other people and so on. Well, they ran

56:14very, very few candidates in this

56:17election cycle because they knew they

56:19had the DSA. It really is the same thing

56:21as the DSA. Um, it may not go quite as

56:25extreme from the standpoint of getting

56:28rid of the president or the Supreme

56:30Court and the Senate and all that kind

56:31of stuff, but just look it up. And the

56:34SEIU has been one of the the key arms of

56:38this entire Soros pantheon of

56:42nonprofits, foundations that are used to

56:46create a liberal and now increasingly

56:48socialist ecosphere

56:51that people live in. I mean, this is one

56:53of the frauds of somebody like Abdul El

56:56Sayed who says, "Well, I don't take big

56:58corporate money." Well, maybe not

57:00directly into your campaign, but these

57:02billionaire foundations are the ones

57:04that create the climate out of which you

57:07recruited all of your campaign workers.

57:09So, I'm sorry. Yes, you do. Uh, and SEI

57:12SEIU is part of that. So yeah, they if

57:15if if they if they don't come out with

57:18as extreme a statement as the DSA does,

57:23uh they are definitely part of that

57:24entire ecosphere and and represent the

57:28kind of ground troops that uh have been

57:31created by this liberal elite. But, you

57:35know, as we're seeing with the situation

57:37in Detroit, uh, a lot of those people

57:41who are now thinking about at least

57:43listening to Mike Rogers and maybe even

57:45voting for him were people who had been

57:48living in that echosphere and that

57:50ecosphere is being broken up. So, look,

57:54the way the enemy operates is they they

57:57don't put all their eggs in one basket.

57:59They never have. They they they create a

58:01menu of organizations and ideologies and

58:05then they see how the population is

58:07responding. So do they have to use this

58:10more Fabian one where you kind of cloak

58:13who you really are in something which

58:15doesn't sound too frightening or do you

58:18go completely batshit crazy like the you

58:21know the communist who won in in the New

58:23York congressional race and just let it

58:25all hang out. Well, part of what they're

58:28doing is seeing how the population

58:30responds and then, you know, tweaking.

58:32All right, are we going to go with this?

58:34Are we going to push that? What's the

58:35kind? That's how they operate. But that

58:38all works in a world where all the

58:40American people are doing is reacting.

58:43If people ground themselves in what do I

58:45actually believe? Um, and and and where

58:49do those beliefs come from? and then

58:51build your mental apparatus from there,

58:55which is what we're constantly

58:56challenging people to do. What are the

58:58principles? What are the basics? Uh then

59:01I think people are not going to respond

59:03to this kind of social engineering. Um

59:06which the enemy has definitely mastered,

59:09but it's always always dependent on the

59:12fact that you're not using your

59:13god-given creativity to see through this

59:16stuff.

59:18>> Yeah. for Dora. If if you just want to

59:21actually show something concrete, just

59:24Google Open Society Foundation George

59:27Soros and the Working Families Party,

59:30and you'll see that this is a wholly

59:32owned subsidiary of George Soros.

59:40>> You're you're muted, Adam.

59:41>> Thank you, Barbara, and thank you,

59:43Susan, and thank you to all of our

59:45wonderful viewers on the show. Right

59:47now, we're going to hit some more super

59:49chats real quick. First, really generous

59:51contribution. Thank you, Susan, for

59:53joining us every week. What a busy show.

59:55Just listening today. And mother of

59:57pearl, uh, God had other plans for my

1:00:01sharing your half page during travels.

1:00:04Didn't want me talking politics. Lost my

1:00:06voice for the whole trip. Regained it

1:00:09when I got home. Not a joke. I believe

1:00:11it was time to unplug and unrest back.

1:00:15recharged more than ever. Thank you,

1:00:17Prometheian. And thank you, Mother of

1:00:19Pearl, for joining us. Yeah, sometimes

1:00:22that is the way of taking rest when God

1:00:24kind of enforces a bit of sickness on

1:00:26you. Hopefully wasn't too caused by

1:00:28allergies. But thank you very much, uh,

1:00:31Mother of Pearl. I hope you get well

1:00:33soon and I hope to see you on the next

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1:00:39much for joining us today. All right,

1:00:41let's hop back. I have plenty more

1:00:44questions in the super chat which I'm

Ted's Big Question: Organic or Orchestrated?

1:00:46going to get to. But before that, I want

1:00:48to switch back to another question from

1:00:50our email newsletter subscribers. Again,

1:00:54we're going to stick on this topic for a

1:00:55little longer.

1:00:57So, here's a little bit of a wider

1:00:59historical question.

1:01:01Um, Susan, are you still here? I want to

1:01:05make sure you hear this one.

1:01:07Okay. Uh, so this is a one from Ted

1:01:10continuing on what we were just

1:01:11discussing but much more of a longer

1:01:14historical arc in this one. Could what

1:01:17we are witnessing in America be the

1:01:19beginning of a historic political

1:01:21realignment rather than simply another

1:01:24election cycle as a Democratic party

1:01:26moves forward towards democratic

1:01:29socialism and increasingly radical

1:01:31positions or is by perceived by voters

1:01:36as doing so. Could that ultimately push

1:01:38more workingclass, black, Hispanic, and

1:01:41traditionally Democratic voters into the

1:01:44Republican party, creating a much

1:01:46broader multi-ult multi-racial MAGA

1:01:49coalition. At the same time, Tucker

1:01:51Carlson and others have discussed the

1:01:54possibility of a new populist political

1:01:57movement or a third party. Could these

1:02:00developments eventually intersect? In

1:02:02other words, could the Democratic Party

1:02:04become so ideologically isolated that it

1:02:08declines or even collapses as a major

1:02:11national party while the MAGA coalition

1:02:14itself eventually divides and a new

1:02:17America first populist movement emerges

1:02:20as America's second major political

1:02:22force. Something analogous to the

1:02:24collapse of the wigs and the rise of the

1:02:26Republican party in the 1850s.

1:02:30But the larger question I have is about

1:02:32agency. Is this a simp simply an organic

1:02:36political realignment driven by voters

1:02:38and historical forces

1:02:41or are influential political, financial

1:02:44or geopolitical interests already

1:02:46anticipating this formation and

1:02:48consciously attempting to shape it? Does

1:02:52Donald Trump recognize the possibility

1:02:54of such a realignment and deliberately

1:02:57emphasize the threat of socialism or

1:02:59communism as a way of accelerating the

1:03:02movement of traditional democratic

1:03:04constituencies into the Republican

1:03:07coalition?

1:03:08Is the apparent fracture developing

1:03:10within MAGA potentially part of an

1:03:14emerging postTrump political order? And

1:03:17from Prometheian actions historical

1:03:19perspective, is there credible evidence

1:03:21that the British or other international

1:03:23oligarchical interests are are

1:03:26attempting to influence or exploit these

1:03:28divisions? Ultimately, we are simply

1:03:31watching a historical American political

1:03:34realignment happen organically, or are

1:03:37we watching competing forces

1:03:40consciously fighting to determine what

1:03:42America's next political system will

1:03:45look like?

1:03:48Well, Ted, I yeah, I wanted I wanted to

1:03:51have Adam read that all because I

1:03:53thought it was a very very perceptive

1:03:55question. Um, and and I think it's both.

1:04:00I mean, what you know, you're saying, is

1:04:02this is some of this orchestrated? Is

1:04:04some of this a natural political

1:04:06alignment? But think about it from this

1:04:08standpoint. Go back throughout American

1:04:10history and and I think it will just put

1:04:12it all in very sharp relief. We had the

1:04:15American Revolution waged and fought

1:04:18against the British Empire. We had the

1:04:21development of the American system of

1:04:23political [clears throat] economy

1:04:25finally giving a nation the tools that

1:04:27it needed to defend itself from the

1:04:31British imperial system, national

1:04:33banking, tariffs, internal improvements.

1:04:36In other words, organize your economy

1:04:39around actual production and not who

1:04:42controls the money. And the natural

1:04:44political fin the natural political

1:04:47alignment that you have, you know,

1:04:50breaks down along those lines. You you

1:04:52had the the especially with the

1:04:55emergence of the Republican party of

1:04:57Abraham Lincoln. That was the party that

1:04:59represented that American system

1:05:02economic outlook. And it that that's the

1:05:06part which I I think is kind of organic

1:05:09in the sense that celebrating human

1:05:12beings as human beings and organizing

1:05:14your economy from the standpoint of

1:05:17unleashing their creative potential that

1:05:19that's very organic. And honestly, if

1:05:23that were just allowed to develop

1:05:27without this evil oligarchical infection

1:05:31coming in constantly trying to snuff it

1:05:34out. Um, and then I think the world

1:05:37would be a much happier place than it is

1:05:39today because we'd be far far advanced

1:05:42in terms of where mankind was. But you

1:05:45do have this oligarchy

1:05:47uh which has been concentrated in the

1:05:50British imperial institutions

1:05:53especially over the course of the past

1:05:55250 and 300 years. So what you've seen

1:05:59throughout American history is the

1:06:02British create

1:06:04when they recognize that there is a

1:06:07transformation going on uh or they try

1:06:10and stop the organic development of this

1:06:13American system and that's where you get

1:06:14back to the civil war um where the

1:06:17British backed the Confederacy. They

1:06:21were the originators of slavery. They

1:06:23were the ones that made sure that it

1:06:25came back into the United States after

1:06:27we had pretty much snuffed it out by

1:06:291800, early part of that century. Um the

1:06:33the success of the American system was

1:06:35basically atrophying slavery and the

1:06:38British made sure that it came back in.

1:06:40They created the political phenomenon uh

1:06:43of of the modern-day Democratic Party

1:06:46which was Wall Street slaveholders, you

1:06:48know, and British bankers basically. Um

1:06:52and so and for a while you didn't have

1:06:55any party really representing the

1:06:58American outlook and because the wigs

1:07:00had failed and the federalists had

1:07:02failed and so on. So you get the

1:07:04emergence of Abraham Lincoln's new

1:07:06Republican party. So that that was

1:07:09organic in the sense that you needed,

1:07:11you know, this American impulse is

1:07:13constantly looking for an institution

1:07:17leaders that will bring it back to life.

1:07:21Um, and that's what you're seeing with

1:07:23Donald Trump and that's what you are

1:07:24seeing with the MAGA movement. But then

1:07:27at the same time, you're always going to

1:07:28have the oligarchs coming in. How can we

1:07:31screw that up? Uh, now the way they

1:07:34screwed up the Republican party was

1:07:35pretty straightforward. They

1:07:37assassinated three Republican presidents

1:07:39in a row, Lincoln, Garfield, and

1:07:41McKinley. And again, you had this very

1:07:43interesting phenomenon for for a couple

1:07:45of decades after McKinley's death.

1:07:48Neither party represented that organic

1:07:51American system outlook. Kind of like

1:07:54what we live through in the 1980s, the

1:07:561990s, the 10, the up until Barack

1:07:59Obama. No institution represented that

1:08:02organic American outlook. And then

1:08:05something emerged and it was Franklin

1:08:07Roosevelt. And it doesn't mean all of

1:08:09his policies were super duper. They

1:08:11weren't all super duper. But there was

1:08:12an American system impulse which then

1:08:16attracted workers, minorities, farmers

1:08:19who had historically been Republican. So

1:08:21you got that new kind of realignment.

1:08:24And then what did what did the oligarchs

1:08:26do? Well, they kill your best post-war

1:08:28Democrat, which is John Kennedy. And

1:08:31they kill probably his successor, his

1:08:33brother, Robert F. Kennedy senior um and

1:08:36they take over that institution and

1:08:39again you you end you know we all know

1:08:41the phenomenon of the uni party because

1:08:43for the period say between Ross Perau

1:08:46and Donald Trump I mean Buchanan was in

1:08:50there but there was like no institution

1:08:52where that American impulse could

1:08:54manifest itself and that's what Trump

1:08:56has brought back. So what is the

1:08:57oligarchy doing now? all the things that

1:09:00you're saying, you know, the Democratic

1:09:02party, they're figuring out which kind

1:09:04of combination of crazy might play best

1:09:07in the American population to damage or

1:09:11the country. But obviously, they

1:09:13have this other option with some kind of

1:09:16anti-Trump populist movement for which

1:09:20the pathetic and unfortunate Tucker is

1:09:22the poster boy. I mean, how anybody can

1:09:25have any credibility after treating

1:09:27Hunter Biden like a sterling figure, you

1:09:30know, who should be listened to, I don't

1:09:32know. But yeah, they're going to play

1:09:33with all of that. What's organic is the

1:09:36desire to have an institution, a

1:09:39movement that represents the actual

1:09:41American system. What is orchestrated is

1:09:44all the different ways the British

1:09:47Empire tries to screw that up. But I

1:09:50thought it was an excellent question

1:09:51because it's it's the kind of strategic

1:09:53thinking that people have to be engaged

1:09:55in that you're in a period of political

1:09:57change. We are in a period of massive

1:10:00political change. You know, the politics

1:10:02of the past 40 years, they're over. You

1:10:05know, however you think politics worked.

1:10:08However you think candidates were

1:10:09chosen, that is over because Donald

1:10:12Trump has been the disruptor of the

1:10:15first quarter of this century. and I

1:10:18suspect it will continue a little bit

Barbara: Tucker, MTG, Massie โ€” Not Organic

1:10:20longer.

1:10:25>> Barbara, your thoughts on this question

1:10:27here regarding the political dynamic of

1:10:29both, you know, the Democratic party

1:10:32becoming mega radicalized, then you have

1:10:34Tucker Carlson and all these other

1:10:36people that are trying to split the

1:10:38Republican party. Is this an organic

1:10:41movement or are there actually deeper

1:10:44forces here that are kind of using using

1:10:47society to to do what they want?

1:10:51>> Well, you know, I don't think that

1:10:52Tucker and Marshia Taylor Green and

1:10:55Thomas Massie are an [clears throat]

1:10:57organic development period kind of in a

1:11:00story. If you think about put yourself

1:11:03in the mindset of the enemy uh you know

1:11:06right after the 2024 election where you

1:11:09have a vast coalition coming together

1:11:12behind President Trump and his mantra is

1:11:16I want to unify this very divided

1:11:18country. Now, what happens very quickly,

1:11:23one of the guys who's the glue of what

1:11:26happened in November of 2024, Charlie

1:11:29Kirk, gets assassinated.

1:11:31Tucker Carlson was very close to Charlie

1:11:34Kirk as we're in numerous figures. Um,

1:11:39and all of them have kind of different

1:11:41reactions to it because that's what

1:11:43happens when you have an assassination.

1:11:46Psychological warfare is the very

1:11:48purpose of political assassinations.

1:11:51It's to convince you that, you know,

1:11:54it's not worth it. You could die doing

1:11:57this. But what we're saying is, hey, if

1:12:01you're in this movement, if you really

1:12:02want to change the United States, you

1:12:05have to be willing to die for the

1:12:07principle of doing that. That kind of

1:12:11commitment is the kind that actually

1:12:14wins political battles for immortality,

1:12:18not just for the present moment. So, uh,

1:12:22the Tucker, Marjorie Taylor, Dean,

1:12:24Thomas Massie, the Epstein files, and

1:12:27and you know, Israel runs the entire

1:12:29world and, uh, you know, Hunter Biden's

1:12:33laptop wasn't, you know, basically a a

1:12:36real thing. It wasn't such a situation.

1:12:39It was, you know, Mossad disinformation.

1:12:42They just got it wrong. All right. And,

1:12:45you know, basically, you know, the whole

1:12:48story is so crazy that, you know, it's

1:12:52just ridiculous. But the problem is that

1:12:56a lot of people got locked into each one

1:12:59of these shiar operations designed to

1:13:02split the coalition, which actually

1:13:06elected Trump in 2024.

1:13:09They got caught up in it. All right?

1:13:11Because it works. When you're not when

1:13:13you're just looking at the internet and

1:13:15you're not functioning on the standpoint

1:13:16of political principle and thinking what

1:13:19this is about, it's pretty easy to get

1:13:22all absorbed by whether Larry Johnson

1:13:25thinks the rifle that killed Charlie

1:13:26Clerk is the right one and which way did

1:13:30the bullet go and this that and the

1:13:32other rather than facing the reality

1:13:35which is much more scary of that

1:13:38assassination being what it was. We can

1:13:41program people to kill presidents at

1:13:43this point on the internet. We don't

1:13:46need MK Ultra. We basically have an

1:13:50entire trans movement out there, which

1:13:54you got trans killers right now out

1:13:57there being programmed on the internet.

1:14:00All right. And yes, Tyler Robinson did

1:14:03kill Charlie Kirk and he did use his

1:14:06grandfather's rifle to do it. that's

1:14:08been conclusively proven. But you're

1:14:11never going to get people off this thing

1:14:14because they they now are, you know,

1:14:16wedded to this idea in their heads that

1:14:19I know something sitting in my armchair

1:14:22here at home about what happened. Um,

1:14:26that I'm just going to disregard all of

1:14:28the evidence because I'm sucked into

1:14:31what really is in some of these chat

1:14:33groups a cult-like kind of behavior. Um,

1:14:37so you know, it it's you have to look at

1:14:40it for what it is. They came to

1:14:42assassinate the movement. They continued

1:14:45what they did in 2020 forward to

1:14:48assassinate the movement. We're finding

1:14:50out a lot more about that right now. Uh,

1:14:53but that's what they did from 2024

1:14:55forward. And much as I might think I

1:14:59liked Tucker Carlson before, I really

1:15:03abhore him now. He's crazy and he's

1:15:06revealed himself to be exactly what he

1:15:08is, which is a mental

1:15:13>> I think uh Barbara, just a comment uh to

1:15:16extend what you're just saying. I think

1:15:18the challenge with a lot of people is

1:15:19intellectual cowardice.

1:15:22It's a safer It's safer for the ego to

1:15:26hold on to this fake idea than the

1:15:29process of having to admit, hey, I was

1:15:32wrong. And going through that process of

1:15:35honestly saying, hey, you know what? I

1:15:37was wrong about this actually takes

1:15:39courage.

1:15:41And so there's a I think there's a lot

1:15:43of really like you said, small-minded,

1:15:46intellectually weak people that have

1:15:48little intellectual courage to be able

1:15:51to say, "Hey guys, I was wrong."

1:15:55[laughter]

1:15:56So yes, there's a definitely a lot of

1:15:58that going on in the country right now.

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1:16:17let me go to this next one here because

1:16:20this one's coming up a lot and I it's

1:16:23really

Craig: A New McCarthy Hearing?

1:16:25quick question.

1:16:27Craig says, "Could a McCarthy type of

1:16:30hearings on communism within America

1:16:33ever happen again?"

1:16:36Thank you, Craig, for your question.

1:16:38Barbara and Susan, your thoughts?

1:16:44>> Well, I I I'm not really uh intrigued by

1:16:48having, you know, th those hearings were

1:16:51really quite abusive in many respects.

1:16:54Um and they they were played as

1:16:57political theater. Uh what we actually

1:16:59have to do is much more difficult. We

1:17:02have to inoculate the population right

1:17:04now about what socialism and communism

1:17:08are and where they come from. Uh the

1:17:11same thing with uh radical Islam. And

1:17:14what's going on, just so you know, is,

1:17:17you know, the Trump administration is

1:17:19way, way, way beyond what you're talking

1:17:21about in terms of having a congressional

1:17:24hearing. They're actually going after

1:17:26the bank accounts of the people who are

1:17:29involved in this. They're actually going

1:17:32for indictments of the people who are

1:17:34involved in this. They're actually going

1:17:36for civil suits. They're actually

1:17:38deporting people uh who are here uh on

1:17:42visas. Uh Marco Rubio is doing a whole

1:17:45job in the State Department actually

1:17:46just getting rid of them. Uh if you come

1:17:49here and you're a radical Islamist and

1:17:51you're on a visa, you're gone. All

1:17:54right. And and so I think what's

1:17:57happening is far far far beyond uh what

1:18:00McCarthy ever thought of doing uh the

1:18:03Trump administration is doing through

1:18:04and and we're also knocking out through

1:18:07the fraud investigations the entire

1:18:10funding infrastructure for this. Scott

1:18:13Bessant uh is looking at all of the

1:18:16501c3s and 501c4s for people who are in

1:18:20our international audience. That's the u

1:18:23provisions of the tax code of the United

1:18:25States that allow these foundations and

1:18:28groups to actually function. And the IRS

1:18:31is going to be conducting major

1:18:33operations to actually uh deny them tax

1:18:36exempt status because they're obviously

1:18:39functioning politically, which they're

1:18:40not supposed to do. Among other things,

1:18:43finding out how they've actually used

1:18:45their money. How do they use their

1:18:47money? Do they use their money to fund

1:18:49all these anti- flaw terrorists? That's

1:18:52something the government is right now

1:18:53investigating. So, I think the Trump

1:18:56administration is eight steps ahead of

1:18:58congressional hearings uh in terms of

1:19:00what they're actually doing about this.

1:19:05>> Thank you, Barbara. Susan, any comments

1:19:07on this one?

1:19:08>> No, I'm with Barbara. Um Okay. I'm I've

1:19:11I've seen few congressional hearings

1:19:13that really did much of any good

1:19:15certainly in the current incarnation.

1:19:17There have been some

1:19:18>> except for the Fouch the Fouchy.

1:19:20>> Oh, that's obviously the latest the one

1:19:22and and there have been a few others

1:19:24where where the congressmen are actually

1:19:27honestly trying to tell a story and get

1:19:31information out in that venue. But so

1:19:34many of them are just political ga

1:19:36grandstanding with talking points. um

1:19:39they they they don't accomplish that

1:19:40much. I think the president has a much

1:19:42better bully pulpit than the Congress

1:19:45has and and Scott Basson and the Justice

1:19:47Department.

1:19:52Thank you very much, Susan. All right,

1:19:54we're going to head back to our super

1:19:56chat questions and I'm going to take I'm

Mercenary: When History Feels Like a Lie

1:20:00going to take two here for mercenary

1:20:02which I think uh it kind of express

1:20:04something similar. So, first he says,

1:20:07"So, thank you. First off, thank you

1:20:08very much, friend, for sending in these

1:20:10questions. I've been spent I've been

1:20:11spreading word about Prometheium

1:20:13everywhere I can, especially on my

1:20:15Discord servers that I visit. However,

1:20:18it's pretty difficult to get people to

1:20:20see. I got to say something feels I got

1:20:25to say something feels like a rugpull is

1:20:28coming from T-Man, Donald Trump." And he

1:20:32goes on to say, "The [clears throat]

1:20:33worst part about all this is how much of

1:20:36history is a lie. It's been so twisted

1:20:40to the point where we can't tell without

1:20:43some sort of outside help. For example,

1:20:46either Lincoln was a uniter or that he

1:20:49was a tyrant. Okay, before I open this

1:20:52up for Barbara and Susan, I just want to

1:20:55add my two cents because I I'm I think

1:20:58you're probably a younger person like I

1:21:00am. You have to realize that there's a

1:21:03saying with food that says you are what

1:21:06you eat, [clears throat] which is

1:21:08absolutely true, right? No one at this

1:21:11point, especially the millennials, we're

1:21:13all becoming really health focused. um

1:21:16millennial generation, younger ones have

1:21:18also always kind of been health focused,

1:21:20but it's even more now. You are what you

1:21:22eat. Absolutely. Right. If you eat

1:21:23crappy food all day, if you eat junk

1:21:27food, food that just tastes good all

1:21:29day, you're going to look like crap. And

1:21:32people forget that the exact same

1:21:35analogy can be made about media. The

1:21:39content that you consume on those disc

1:21:42cord channels is garbage, bro.

1:21:45And if all you're taking in on these

1:21:47Discord channels is a bunch of what

1:21:49amounts to intellectual

1:21:52junk food, well then you're never going

1:21:54to get healthy.

1:21:56And my my suggestion to everyone that's

1:21:59caught up in this situation, I say this,

1:22:01try to point this out a lot on my

1:22:03ex.com. You need to get out of the

1:22:05domain of just consuming all this media,

1:22:09right? And you have to figure out how

1:22:11can I do this for my own? How can I find

1:22:13my voice? and actually add something

1:22:16creatively to this discussion instead of

1:22:19just consuming everyone else's point of

1:22:22view, which sounds to me like you're

1:22:24struggling with. So, Barbara and Susan,

1:22:27the worst part about all this is how

1:22:29much of history is a lie. It's been so

1:22:31twisted. We can't tell with anyone's

1:22:33sort of help. How would you help guide

1:22:35somebody who's struggling to make sense

1:22:38of what's going on in the world?

1:22:41>> Well, I say go to the library to start.

1:22:44get off the internet and go to the

1:22:45library. I find with Abraham Lincoln

1:22:49actually thinking about, you know, put

1:22:52yourself in his shoes.

1:22:54You know, here he is. He's the president

1:22:57of the United States. He had to

1:22:59basically in his first term come at

1:23:02like, you know, they're talking about

1:23:03this disguise with Trump in the plane.

1:23:06Well, Lincoln had to come into

1:23:08Washington DC in a disguised train

1:23:10because they're going to kill him on the

1:23:12train. It's a very similar kind of

1:23:15situation. But read Lincoln and think

1:23:18about how does his mind work. His his

1:23:22words are there. You can get it in the

1:23:24library. You can actually understand the

1:23:26man and his mind and how he's thinking

1:23:29by reading him. When you when you start

1:23:32to put down things in scripts or words

1:23:34or whatever, um you know, you're out

1:23:37there. You you can't hide as Adam will

1:23:40tell you. Um and basically, you know,

1:23:44every single one of our founders is like

1:23:46that. Now, the historical record is

1:23:49there. All right. For the most part, we

1:23:53uh in our former association did so much

1:23:57original work like that of actually

1:24:00trying to figure it out, trying to

1:24:02figure out the history. So, I'm not

1:24:04going to give you a recipe to say go

1:24:06read this in the old uh Larouche Pub or

1:24:09EIR, but you know, I find that actually

1:24:13getting acquainted with these people

1:24:15from our history and actually treating

1:24:18them as friends and saying, "Why did you

1:24:20do that?" Uh, you know, what was behind

1:24:23that? Then that leads you to the next

1:24:25level of thinking about it. Well, it

1:24:27becomes obvious why certain things were

1:24:29done. Was Lincoln a uniter?

1:24:32Absolutely. He tried like hell to

1:24:34prevent the civil war. Tried everything

1:24:37possible, but it didn't work. Was he a

1:24:40tyrant because he revoked habius? That

1:24:43was a necessary step at that point in

1:24:46time when you have traitors and

1:24:49insurrectionists actually causing not

1:24:52just talking about it, but causing the

1:24:55division of the country. Learn about the

1:24:58civil war. What was it about? England

1:25:00controlled the entire England. All

1:25:02right. Controlled the entire south

1:25:04because of the cotton trade and the

1:25:06slave trade earlier. That was New

1:25:08England and and the South. All right.

1:25:11The the the British were coming in on

1:25:14the side of the South to destroy the

1:25:17United States of America. That's the

1:25:19problem. And half of America actually

1:25:22believed in the British idea of things.

1:25:25That was Lincoln's problem. That's the

1:25:28problem he had to solve. He tried like

1:25:30hell to avoid a civil war because he

1:25:32knew that that would actually uh you

1:25:34know end up in in being so destructive

1:25:37which it was but ultimately we could

1:25:40come out of it uh as a republic um you

1:25:44know think about the Gettsburg address

1:25:47and what did he say there? That's why I

1:25:49have him uh you know right back there.

1:25:52Uh you know a government of the people

1:25:54by the people and for the people shall

1:25:57not perish from this earth. That is

1:26:00unique in history. That's his solution

1:26:04to the entire array of problems I just

1:26:07threw out to you that he was facing. So

1:26:09you can go to the library which is kind

1:26:11of radical at this point in time and you

1:26:14can you Lincoln wrote it all down. and

1:26:16he's got a huge volume of Abraham

1:26:18Lincoln's works and it'll take you all

1:26:21the way from, you know, all the way from

1:26:23the Civil War, how he thought about

1:26:25things, etc. Um, and that's what I

1:26:28always try and do. I try and go to the

1:26:31people themselves and go to the original

1:26:34sources rather than taking uh secondary

1:26:38uh interpretations of stuff and making

1:26:40it very personal.

1:26:43What was this person thinking? What was

1:26:44he facing? what did he actually do? And

1:26:47that's I think the kind of best method

1:26:50to adopt to get you through uh the

1:26:52conundrum you face.

1:26:54>> I want to say he uh mercenary put

1:26:56something in the chat where he said,

1:26:58"I'm not struggling. I'm frustrated by

1:27:00others." [laughter]

1:27:02You know, which is completely

1:27:03understandable. Um you know, and I

1:27:06think, you know, the the other side of

1:27:07this is how do you how do you address

1:27:10those others who are falling for all of

1:27:13this stuff? It was interesting last

1:27:15night I was on a Zoom discussion with

1:27:17some really good activists in Arizona.

1:27:20Um, and you know, one of them raised a

1:27:24similar question. It wasn't in the

1:27:25context of a discord group, but it was

1:27:27in the context of organizing young

1:27:29people and they said, uh, how would you

1:27:33approach this? How do you, you know, how

1:27:35do you puncture people who are in this?

1:27:38And you know, I I've tried various

1:27:40things um in discussions with people and

1:27:43so on, but it just occurred to me that

1:27:45maybe the first thing that you have to

1:27:47do is with the person that you're

1:27:49talking to, find out what they think is

1:27:51wrong. What is it you think is actually

1:27:54wrong?

1:27:56And then what you might rapidly discover

1:28:00is that the solution to what they think

1:28:02is wrong and and and they may have a

1:28:05solution to it, which is like one

1:28:07classic example, socialism, right? But

1:28:10what if you can then present to them

1:28:11that the solution to their question

1:28:15comes from someplace outside everything

1:28:18they've ever been told like this choice,

1:28:20you know, Lincoln is this or Lincoln is

1:28:22that? I mean clearly I think he is a

1:28:24uniter but you know to to to introduce

1:28:28something which isn't already in the

1:28:30discourse

1:28:32um but but which addresses would but

1:28:35comes from again comes from this outside

1:28:37to address what it is what what do you

1:28:40think is the problem here you know what

1:28:42what should we do what do you think the

1:28:44problem is rather than you know as both

1:28:47Barbara and Adam have said these kind of

1:28:48sterile well here's my position on this

1:28:51I mean I I'll never forget one of our

1:28:54friends from way back once went to a

1:28:57convention. [clears throat] We we used

1:28:58to intervene, you know, we'd go to

1:29:00leftist conventions and Democratic Party

1:29:02conventions and we just sort of go in

1:29:04there and, you know, just intervene with

1:29:06our ideas and and this person ran into

1:29:09one of your typical lefties, you know,

1:29:11who wouldn't talk to us unless we told

1:29:14us, "What is your position on this?" You

1:29:17know, like

1:29:19so many times you've seen this. My

1:29:21friend just sort of flipped it on its

1:29:22head and said, "What is your position on

1:29:24hard-boiled eggs?" You know, I mean,

1:29:26it's just this positioning this this,

1:29:29you know, where do you stand in the

1:29:30catechism as opposed to

1:29:34do you think there was actually a

1:29:36problem? What do you where do you think

1:29:37where do you think the problem actually

1:29:39came from? and and and where where you

1:29:42might rapidly describe these sort of

1:29:44sterile silly position solutions in no

1:29:47way whatsoever address where a problem

1:29:50actually came from. Anyway, that's what

1:29:52I would throw in to our friend who's

1:29:54clearly trying to rescue people in this

1:29:57universe.

1:29:58>> Yeah, it's like people are arguing what

1:30:00level of purgatory what level of

1:30:02purgatory should I be showing at? Is

1:30:04that is that level over there a little

1:30:06bit of a better hangout than the one

1:30:08that I'm sitting in? Uh

1:30:11also Merceny I I just want to help you

1:30:14on your journey there of helping to help

1:30:17others see what you see. It actually is

1:30:22less about other people and more about

1:30:24yourself and understanding yourself well

1:30:28enough to actually be able to

1:30:29communicate to other people. So I urge

1:30:32yourself I urge you to think about it

1:30:34more. I think Barbara's angle about

1:30:36going back to the original sources is so

1:30:39important, right? Because you're

1:30:41consuming all these secondhands accounts

1:30:43of everything. And I'm almost certain

1:30:45you haven't probably gone to the

1:30:47original sources all that much. Cuz

1:30:50honestly, most people don't. They just

1:30:51want to get the cliffnotes for

1:30:52everything because doing the original

1:30:54work, reading the original sources,

1:30:57putting yourself in that mindset, trying

1:30:59to figure it out on your own, that's the

1:31:01creative historical work that people

1:31:03don't do.

1:31:04And by the way, there's there's a

1:31:06current really simple way to begin, you

1:31:10know, to to start to use that

1:31:11methodology, and I've said it before. Uh

1:31:14just go to the watch a cabinet meeting.

1:31:17Uh go to the White House website, read

1:31:20what they say, listen to an interview by

1:31:23JD Vance or Scott Besson, not the clips,

1:31:26the whole thing. Listen to how their

1:31:28minds work, listen to how they're

1:31:30approaching a problem. Uh so that that's

1:31:32sort of a current very simple way to

1:31:34begin to get much more used to this

1:31:37method of actually your mind being in

1:31:41dialogue with another living person's

1:31:43mind trying to actually solve a problem

1:31:47rather than you know getting some kind

1:31:49of comment which will be clickbait.

1:31:53>> Let me um Whoops. Move that add to the

The White House App

1:31:57stage. I want to just show this out. So

1:31:59Trump, the Trump administration just

1:32:02launched this app which is something

1:32:04that we've always talked about which is

1:32:06like you need to follow what the

1:32:08president is doing from his own here.

1:32:11Let me let me pull down this thing here

1:32:12so people can see a little bit more of

1:32:14this. So the president the White House

1:32:16has just launched this new app the like

1:32:20literally just a few weeks ago. I don't

1:32:22know why it hasn't been making more

1:32:25rounds here yet. Where's Where's the

1:32:27mercenary? I have too many s super chats

1:32:30now and I'm just like scrolling through

1:32:31like 20 of them. Here we go. So yeah,

1:32:34you can check it out right here. You can

1:32:36get it on Google Play and the Apple App

1:32:38Store. So again, the official White

1:32:41House app, official mobile app from the

1:32:44White House, real time updates, live

1:32:47events, and direct access to the

1:32:49president all in one app. So now

1:32:52everyone, you don't really have an

1:32:53excuse. You can actually follow what the

1:32:57president wants you to see. You can

1:32:59follow all of the live events that he

1:33:02does because President Trump does events

1:33:05like every day he's doing something. At

1:33:07least one a day.

1:33:09So, I just wanted to call everyone's

1:33:11attention to this because I only found

1:33:13out about this just a few days ago

1:33:15myself. So, thank you everyone for

1:33:17tuning in. If you're on if you're on

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1:33:22You can double tap on the stream.

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1:33:27And thank you very much, Mercenary, for

1:33:29sending in your question. Um, I'm going

1:33:31to go here back to our email newsletter.

1:33:34I'm going to take

Gregory: "How Can We Still Trust the President?"

1:33:37um a question here that was very

1:33:38thoughtful and does express a lot of

1:33:42what people are feeling in the United

1:33:44States. Gregory says, "Thank you. You're

1:33:47doing a great work in the order of

1:33:50former great patriots. I'm a retired

1:33:5369year-old

1:33:55um social security recipient who with

1:33:58his wife have suffered dearly through

1:34:01this horrible time 2021 to 2026 of

1:34:04inflation. We were promised relief

1:34:06during the 2024 rallies of the

1:34:08president. No wars, $2 gas, 1955 prices.

1:34:12Then he said, "You will have more money

1:34:14than you can know what to do with." My

1:34:16last social security raise was 2.8%

1:34:20while inflation last year, the real

1:34:21inflation, my pocket inflation was about

1:34:2330. The question is, with no convictions

1:34:27of the criminals, the Epstein list

1:34:29people still enjoying their life and

1:34:31their wealth. The war still going strong

1:34:34and the voting system still in shambles.

1:34:36Finally, inflation still of the roof for

1:34:40sen uh finally inflation still off the

1:34:42roof for senior citizens like me who

1:34:44have suffered profusely. How can we

1:34:47still trust the president when he says

1:34:49anything?

1:34:51I voted and supported the president

1:34:53three times.

1:34:55Thank you, Gregory, for your question

1:34:57and for being honestly expressing your

1:34:59feelings to us. Barbara and Susan, how

1:35:02do you respond to people that are in

1:35:03this situation?

1:35:07Well, the way I respond is I I always

1:35:10take people back to the uh situation of

1:35:13our founding fathers. Um, and it's kind

1:35:17of important to do that as a mindset uh

1:35:19in the present moment. And I think about

1:35:22what was it like? What were they

1:35:24thinking about the night before they

1:35:26actually signed the Declaration of

1:35:28Independence and said, "Uh, we're

1:35:30pledging in essence our lives, our

1:35:33property, and everything we have and our

1:35:35sacred honor for cause. We don't know

1:35:37whether it's going to succeed or not."

1:35:40Um, I can't tell you. I I'm I'm on

1:35:43social security. I know the pain that it

1:35:46actually causes when I go to the grocery

1:35:47store. I also really really try and

1:35:51investigate why these things are the way

1:35:54they are. Under Joe Biden, inflation was

1:35:58running at, you know, in real terms, I

1:36:01think it's probably around 30, uh, you

1:36:03know, uh, percent. Um, and you know, the

1:36:08social security trust fund is really

1:36:11dependent on a lot of people paying into

1:36:14it who are new workers. That's a problem

1:36:18because, you know, basically a lot of

1:36:20the women in our country have have

1:36:22bought into the idea that they shouldn't

1:36:24have kids. Um, and we're suffering from

1:36:27a deficit in terms of what's being paid

1:36:30into the fund. The war, okay, was it

1:36:34necessary or not? You have to really

1:36:37think about that. If Iran had a nuclear

1:36:40weapon, think about how we've actually

1:36:43it's actually played out here. First of

1:36:45all, if I'm Donald Trump and I'm saying,

1:36:47"Okay, here's my plan, guys. I'm telling

1:36:49you I'm going to rebuild the US

1:36:50economy." Well, where's the financing

1:36:53come to do that? How does that actually

1:36:55work? And then suddenly you discover,

1:36:57well, I can't just do it from inside the

1:37:00United States because why? Because

1:37:03there's a global system of finance at

1:37:05this point and all of our industry and

1:37:08everything else is in some other

1:37:09country. Okay? uh and so I have to start

1:37:13to deal with the world at that point in

1:37:17terms of what is the control point of

1:37:19all that financing. It's called the city

1:37:22of London and we've gone through that in

1:37:25a lot of our various briefings. What has

1:37:28the Iran war done as a complimentary

1:37:31feature? It's broken up all of the

1:37:35income on which the city of London

1:37:37depends. It has brought some I I can't

1:37:41remember how many trillions of dollars

1:37:43the Gulf countries uh from that war have

1:37:46actually invest invested in the United

1:37:48States, but they've taken away from

1:37:50London and put it here to do what? To

1:37:53build factories to generate

1:37:56a bountiful economy.

1:38:00Do I think Trump will do something about

1:38:02Social Security during the course of

1:38:062026

1:38:08uh before the midterms to actually

1:38:10relieve some of the load? Yes, I do. But

1:38:14the biggest problem that we have if

1:38:16we're seniors is a rotten health care

1:38:19system. Um and [clears throat] Trump is

1:38:22doing enormous things on that. He's

1:38:24actually reduced the price of drugs,

1:38:28prescription drugs to the lowest

1:38:30anywhere in the world. Has he yet

1:38:33overcome Obamacare and all the craziness

1:38:35that goes on there? Yes, he has. Is he

1:38:38trying to get more money into Medicare

1:38:41by eliminating the fraud doing that? All

1:38:44right. So the things you go back to in

1:38:47terms of the campaign

1:38:49don't take into account what happens

1:38:50when I try to govern and actually face

1:38:54real problems and solve them on the same

1:38:57principles I'm telling people. Can we

1:39:00rebuild the economy on a dime and just

1:39:03snap our fingers and say, "Okay, here it

1:39:05comes.

1:39:07It's being rebuilt." But that takes

1:39:10time. You got to build the factories.

1:39:12You got to jawbone the crazy people who

1:39:15offshore things and said, "I just gave

1:39:17you a tax credit to build here and I'm

1:39:20going to tariff the hell out of you uh

1:39:22if you don't bring your uh industry back

1:39:24to the United States being done. It

1:39:27doesn't eliminate the fact that meat

1:39:30costs an arm and a leg." Why is that?

1:39:33Why is that? Why does it cost an arm and

1:39:35a leg? Is it because Trump did the Iran

1:39:38war? No. It's because we don't have any

1:39:41cattle herds that are actually mature

1:39:43enough to slaughter. When he tries to go

1:39:45to Argentina to get beef to actually

1:39:48import it, the cattleman's association

1:39:50goes crazy and says, "Why? You're

1:39:53screwing us, you know, and we'll make a

1:39:55big deal about it." So, you know, all of

1:39:58these problems are things which were

1:40:00created under Biden, a huge hole. We're

1:40:03almost destroyed when you actually look

1:40:06at it. We're digging our way out of it.

1:40:09And I can't tell you um essentially that

1:40:13it is still painful for everybody who's

1:40:16on social security when you're looking

1:40:18at, okay, I got my husband needs this

1:40:20today and it costs X amount of money

1:40:23because it's a branded drug. It's not

1:40:26generic and none of the, you know,

1:40:28things have it on their uh you're poor

1:40:31and you can buy it list, but go to Trump

1:40:33RX. We're gradually making progress in

1:40:35bringing those prices down. Um the

1:40:40hospital system is, you know, really

1:40:42screwed up for seniors. Totally. Um but

1:40:46and there there has to be an answer to

1:40:48that. The Republicans haven't come up

1:40:51with one, but Obamacare created the

1:40:54present mess. So we've got to come up

1:40:56with a solution. So I think that but the

1:41:01other thing what you're doing here

1:41:04is you're looking at the enemy operation

1:41:07which I just described to actually break

1:41:10you away from the president to yammer at

1:41:14you. He said there would be no wars.

1:41:17Well, what happens when I discover

1:41:20uh, you know, at least, you know, in

1:41:22terms of what's being talked about here,

1:41:24that one, I can't finance things because

1:41:28the British control everything, the city

1:41:30of London or Wall Street control

1:41:31everything, and two, uh, Iran is about

1:41:35to get a nuclear weapon, which would

1:41:37destroy the oil trade, uh, in the Middle

1:41:40East if that erupted. And we see the

1:41:43impacts of that on the world economy

1:41:46still at this point if the Middle East

1:41:49goes completely nuts.

1:41:52Were the Iranians ready to talk peace

1:41:54and get an economic deal and join in

1:41:57actually, you know, stabilizing the

1:41:59situation? No, they were not. But you're

1:42:03going to see the gas prices come down

1:42:05quickly uh well before the midterms

1:42:08either through Trump strongarming the

1:42:10oil companies and the refiners or

1:42:13through an actual settlement of the

1:42:14straight of hormuz. So, you know, I just

1:42:18think that, you know, patience in the

1:42:20pain is what I have to counsel because I

1:42:23have my eye on the future and what we're

1:42:26trying to create, not for our generation

1:42:30necessarily, but for the next one. And I

1:42:32think about my parents going to World

1:42:34War II. Why' they do that? For me, for

1:42:38the next generation. They put their

1:42:40lives on the line for this country. Uh,

1:42:42and that's the kind of spirit I think

1:42:44we've got to invoke in people to

1:42:46actually think through the present

1:42:48period.

1:42:50Yeah. And I would also just add, I mean,

1:42:52look, when you campaign for office, you

1:42:56tell people what you want to do, but

1:43:01people have to recognize

1:43:03we are a system of separation of powers.

1:43:09And if you look at how much sabotage

1:43:12this president has been up against from

1:43:14this Congress, from the Supreme Court,

1:43:18from the Democratic governors and the

1:43:19courts, look, you know, think about the

1:43:21tariff question. Um, and you know, pre

1:43:24president wanted to give people tariff

1:43:26checks and he probably, you know, would

1:43:28have done that. That would have been a

1:43:29cool maybe $2,000 in your family's

1:43:32pocket, right? But what happened? uh a

1:43:36bunch of Democratic governors

1:43:38sued the president's tariff policy. It

1:43:41went to and it was Democratic governors.

1:43:43Let's not forget that it went to the

1:43:45Supreme Court. The Supreme Court threw

1:43:47out his ability to tariff using the uh

1:43:51EAPA provisions. So threw all of that

1:43:55back, slowed the entire process down,

1:43:58forced them to do certain refunds. Now,

1:44:01who got the refunds? You? No, the

1:44:05refunds went to the corporations. Did

1:44:07the corporations pass that back on to

1:44:09you? No. But as Scott Besson said the

1:44:12other day, so what these Democratic

1:44:13state attorney generals did is

1:44:15essentially they just did a big pile of

1:44:17corporate welfare, right? So I mean,

1:44:21we're in a battle. My friend, retired

1:44:23General Blaine Halt always says in a

1:44:26war, the enemy always has a vote. So you

1:44:29have a an a a a a globalist apparatus

1:44:32out there which obviously has tremendous

1:44:35capabilities in terms of Democratic

1:44:38party officials whether they're in

1:44:40Congress or in the states control of the

1:44:42courts and this gets to the whole

1:44:44question of accountability and arrests.

1:44:46Yeah, let's go arrest a bunch of people

1:44:48and have the indictments thrown out or a

1:44:51democratic contaminated jury pool,

1:44:54declare them innocent. So, you felt good

1:44:56for a couple of minutes and then justice

1:44:58wasn't done. Um, you're in a battlefield

1:45:01where you've got an enemy which is

1:45:04fighting tooth and nail

1:45:06to prevent Trump from bringing the

1:45:08American system back in full and as fast

1:45:12as he possibly can. Their strategy has

1:45:16been throw sand in the wheels so that

1:45:18you are still struggling when you get to

1:45:22the polls in November and because of

1:45:26that you vote against the president

1:45:30and this battle which we're in the

1:45:32middle of you know would be like

1:45:34abandoning the fight in 1943

1:45:38because you were tired of not being able

1:45:40to you know buy coffee uh in World War

1:45:43II. too. It's a fight. People sacrifice

1:45:46and and nobody is saying that it's easy

1:45:49for those layers of the population which

1:45:51especially people who you know have

1:45:55limited capped social security and

1:45:57nothing else. That is incredibly

1:46:00incredibly incredibly challenging and

1:46:03difficult and we hear that. But the

1:46:07alternative is not to stop fighting and

1:46:10surrender to the enemy. The alternative

1:46:12is we got to see this thing through to

1:46:14the end.

1:46:19>> Thank you very much Barbara and Susan

1:46:21for your question to this answer to this

1:46:23very challenging question. A lot of

1:46:25people reach out with very similar

1:46:27stories.

1:46:29So thank you uh thank you very much

1:46:31Gregory for sending in your question. Uh

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1:46:40Okay. super chats. Everyone with the

1:46:43super chat, I'm going to try and get

1:46:45through these as quickly as possible.

1:46:48Um, my apologies if I don't get to yours

1:46:50in this show here. Uh,

1:46:53Tongsley says, "Good to see Susan on

1:46:55Patrick Bet David's show. Keep up the

1:46:57good work. Thank you for joining us

1:46:58here, brother." Winky the cat.

Winkie: Susan's Journey โ€” RFK to Trump

1:47:02Thank you. First off, very cute kitty

1:47:05you have there. I know you sent this in

1:47:07earlier when I think Susan was talking

1:47:09about this. So maybe Susan you can maybe

1:47:12Barbara and Susan could talk about this

1:47:13a little bit. Can you give us a brief

1:47:14overview of your political journey from

1:47:16the 60 supporting RFK to supporting

1:47:18Trump?

1:47:20>> Yeah. Um you know as I've said many

1:47:23times I was campaigning for RFK senior

1:47:26uh in San Francisco uh 1968 when he was

1:47:29shot in uh Los Angeles. And and when you

1:47:34think about what I was talking about

1:47:36earlier in terms of a period of time

1:47:38where it doesn't seem like there's any

1:47:40individual or institution

1:47:42that you can turn to who in some way has

1:47:46the courage and the vision to save the

1:47:49country and and that is what happened

1:47:51with me and a whole lot of other people

1:47:53after 1968. But I was one of the lucky

1:47:56ones because I ran into the or I ran

1:47:59into Lyndon Larouche and his

1:48:01organization in 1971.

1:48:04And even though I didn't understand a

1:48:05lot of what he was talking about at the

1:48:07time, I said, "This makes more sense

1:48:09than anything I've heard, you know, in

1:48:11three and a half years at the University

1:48:13of Michigan." That was for damn sure.

1:48:15Um, and I said, I think I'll stick

1:48:16around and try and figure out figure

1:48:18this out. And here I am, you know, how

1:48:20many years? 55 years later and still

1:48:24figuring it out by the way, which is

1:48:25part of the the very nice journey. But

1:48:28but there I I I want to kind of

1:48:30highlight this journey from a a more

1:48:34contemporary standpoint because

1:48:36obviously when Donald Trump came along

1:48:37in 2016, it was like okay and especially

1:48:40with this second term with the

1:48:43consciousness with which this

1:48:45administration is reviving the American

1:48:48system, is talking about Alexander

1:48:51Hamilton, is using tariffs, is as D as

1:48:54Donald Trump said in that thing I showed

1:48:56at the very beginning people are coming

1:48:58back to the party the party of Abraham

1:49:01Lincoln. You know it it it it it has

1:49:05indeed been a journey but there was one

1:49:07little step in between which I want to

1:49:08share with people. Back in 2020 when we

1:49:11were fighting for President Trump's

1:49:13reelection I'm in the Detroit area.

1:49:16We're near the famous River Rouge plant

1:49:19uh the Ford plant which used to have

1:49:21100,000 workers at it. nowhere near that

1:49:24order of magnitude less, but they build

1:49:26the bestselling truck in America, the

1:49:28Ford F-150. Um, you know, and it's still

1:49:31kind of iconic in terms of American

1:49:34industrial might. And there's a overpass

1:49:37on the freeway right before the workers

1:49:40go in to the plant. So, we made a huge

1:49:43out of a bed sheet, we made a huge sign

1:49:45and hung it over the overpass and it

1:49:47said Donald Trump, the best Democrat

1:49:50since JFK.

1:49:52and we got honks and honks and honks

1:49:54from the guys as they were going into

1:49:56the plant. Um, and so it's not that

1:49:59different from Donald Trump's political

1:50:01journey because he used to be a Democrat

1:50:03or for that matter Ronald Reagan's

1:50:06because he used to be a Democrat.

1:50:08Because the Franklin Roosevelt

1:50:10Democratic Party, despite some of the

1:50:11haters in the chat, and again, I'm not

1:50:13defending all of Franklin Roosevelt's

1:50:15policies, but there were some haters in

1:50:17the chat, revived the American system,

1:50:20and that's how we won World War II.

1:50:22Plain and simple. Period. You know, we

1:50:24the world would be under fascism if it

1:50:26were not for Franklin Roosevelt reviving

1:50:28the American system, creating the

1:50:30arsenal of democracy, and providing the

1:50:33material so that mankind could defeat

1:50:36the Nazis. But again, as we've discussed

1:50:39throughout this show, the enemy then

1:50:42tries to destroy the whatever

1:50:43institution has become the vehicle for

1:50:46the American system impulse. So here we

1:50:49are 80 years later. They certainly have

1:50:51destroyed the Democratic party as that

1:50:54impulse. So a lot of people have taken

1:50:55different journeys, you know, to get to

1:50:57the MAGA movement today. Whether they're

1:51:00conscious of the fact that it's an

1:51:01American system impulse pushing them or

1:51:04whether it's just what is sort of

1:51:06inherently American in so many people

1:51:09like you see in Donald Trump. The man is

1:51:11just a damn builder. He just loves to

1:51:13build things. He lives in the real

1:51:15world. He knows what kind of concrete.

1:51:18He knows what kind of lining you need to

1:51:20put in the reflecting pool. He knows

1:51:22what kind of paint will work under this

1:51:25circumstance and not that circumstance.

1:51:27That's a bit to be a builder. An actual

1:51:31builder means you have to live IRL. You

1:51:34have to live in the real world. You

1:51:36can't have a damn opinion that somebody

1:51:38gave you in an exch. You live in the

1:51:42real Elon Musk, same thing. Why does he

1:51:44blow up so many rockets? Because the

1:51:47real world tells you whether your

1:51:49current opinion about how to do this is

1:51:52right or wrong. And then you you you

1:51:55look at, all right, well, I thought that

1:51:56worked. Uh, no. It just blew up on the

1:51:58launch pad. Well, what was the problem

1:52:01there? You try it again. Well, we got it

1:52:03off the launch pad, but it blew up here

1:52:05or the landing didn't stick or whatever.

1:52:08Builders live in the real world. And I I

1:52:12think for for most people whose

1:52:14political journey has brought them to

1:52:16the MAGA movement, they have some

1:52:18connection to the real world which

1:52:20actually got them there. Whatever

1:52:23whatever political formation was

1:52:25reflecting some little part of that at

1:52:27the time. You you made your own journey.

1:52:34>> Thank you very much, Susan. And thank

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1:53:41and I'm going to try and get through as

1:53:43many of these as possible. Uh, so let's

1:53:47see here,

1:53:49Johan. So, let me take these two from

1:53:51our friends across the pond. Johan,

1:53:53thank you guys for everything you do.

1:53:54God bless all. When will people wake up

1:53:56and see what the real truth is? God

1:53:58bless President Trump. Thank you, Johan,

1:54:00from joining us from across the pond.

1:54:01And Miss Miss Reels says, "Polls in

Mrs. Res: Wisconsin's Polls and "Woke Two"

1:54:05Wisconsin seem to be way off. Is there

1:54:07more to that? Does what does this mean

1:54:12for the [clears throat] midterm outlook?

1:54:14Is woke to sign sufficient mitigation

1:54:18against Iran gas prices and affordab

1:54:22affordability? Great job as always,

1:54:26Barbara and Susan.

1:54:33the woke one and woke two that woke one

1:54:36that was that was pretty

1:54:38>> very insightful

1:54:40>> right that is a very insightful question

1:54:41what's being talked about here for

1:54:43people who sort of aren't glued to uh X

1:54:46or glued to the Sunday shows like I have

1:54:48to be uh is AOC was on the Sunday show

1:54:52is trying like all of these uh you know

1:54:55DSA people socialist Democrats are doing

1:54:58to just destroy the entire previous

1:55:01existence they had. So what was most

1:55:04remarkable by AOC who everybody thinks

1:55:07is running for president is she

1:55:10introduces into her interview with on

1:55:12ABC News. She says, "Oh, and by the way,

1:55:15do you know I have a New York City

1:55:17councilman who always tells me woke one

1:55:20was pretty crazy."

1:55:22And that's true. It was pretty crazy,

1:55:24right? What is SHE TALKING ABOUT? SHE'S

1:55:27TALKING ABOUT mostly uh the summer of

1:55:302020 uh and before out of which you got

1:55:34the so-called woke uh censorship,

1:55:37vilification,

1:55:39Salem witch trials of everybody who

1:55:41actually wanted to have a dissending

1:55:43opinion uh brought into existence the

1:55:47woke stuff. All right, the actual

1:55:50overthrow of the government of the

1:55:51United States when you actually really

1:55:53get down to it. So um what what the

1:55:58questioner is asking which is very funny

1:56:00is she you know basically then the

1:56:02immediate question which arose after she

1:56:05dismissed woke one as crazy is what the

1:56:09hell is she talking about what is woke

1:56:11two what could it possibly be that's

1:56:14what people are actually talking about

1:56:16on the internet at this point and she

1:56:19asked the question is woke 2 sufficient

1:56:22mitigation against Iran gas prices and

1:56:25affordability.

1:56:26[snorts] I don't think it has anything

1:56:28to do with that. I think it's a second

1:56:31mind control phase of their operation

1:56:34against the people of the United States.

1:56:37The polls in Wisconsin are the office

1:56:39just as much as the polls in Michigan.

1:56:42There's lots of explanations which

1:56:44people are given for that like the fact

1:56:46that the Wisconsin race actually broke

1:56:49open when the governor came in and um

1:56:53you know endorsed the guy who won

1:56:54against the communist nitwit. Uh and the

1:56:58same is sort of true of Michigan in

1:57:00terms of the late surge by uh Haley

1:57:04Stevens. But the polling was obviously

1:57:06completely crazy. I believe the polling

1:57:10concerning the president is probably as

1:57:12crazy. Um, but I don't take anything for

1:57:15granted because we've got to win this

1:57:16thing by margins which are actually

1:57:19incredible when it comes to the

1:57:20midterms. So, great question. U, but

1:57:24kind of an insiders question. So, I had

1:57:26to basically draw it out and show what

1:57:27it was.

1:57:30>> Thank you very much, friend, for joining

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1:57:44Okay. Uh,

1:57:46Cool Mom says, "Thank you for all you

1:57:48do." Thank you for joining us. Cool mom.

1:57:51T- neck. Thank you. The big guy says,

1:57:53"Behind enemy lines in T-neck, New

1:57:55Jersey. It's certainly very actually New

1:57:58Jersey is a very diverse state.

1:58:00Actually, there's parts of New Jersey

1:58:02that are almost like wilderness. You

1:58:04wouldn't know. And then you go right

1:58:06down the street and it's uh New Jersey

1:58:08is the most populated state in the

1:58:10nation and it also has the highest uh

1:58:13labor unions. It's the most labor union

1:58:16state in the country. So New Jersey is

1:58:18definitely interesting place for sure.

1:58:20Uh Big Chunga says Bank of America

1:58:22pledging to invest in infrastructure

1:58:25goes perfectly with the American system

1:58:27of political economy. Nice choice for th

1:58:30for nice choice who stepped up. Nice

1:58:32choice for those who stepped up. We

1:58:34agree. I think you're going to see more

1:58:36and more American companies really come

1:58:38to the front as the economy starts

KP Powell: Patrick Byrne

1:58:40coming back in the United States. Um, we

1:58:43have KP Pal says, "I haven't heard you

1:58:46gals or any Republicans talk about what

1:58:48Patrick Brin said years ago regarding a

1:58:51lot of things like Hillary and Obama.

1:58:53What do you all think?" I don't even

1:58:54know who that is. Barbara, Susan,

1:58:56>> we do, Barbara.

1:58:58Patrick Burn is a weird dude. Okay. Uh,

1:59:01to say the least. He's obviously uh you

1:59:04know entrenched in the intelligence

1:59:06community. He was a declared CIA and FBI

1:59:09informant which he basically uh you know

1:59:12goes around bragging about and then he

1:59:14uses that to actually say what he's

1:59:17going to say. He has some interesting

1:59:18things to say. All right. But you know

1:59:21like anything if you're responsible you

1:59:24got to basically just not take him at

1:59:26his word. You got to check it out. and a

1:59:28lot of things he's said or done uh

1:59:31particularly in terms of the craziness

1:59:33which went on around that 2020 uh vote

1:59:37fraud investigation I found to be

1:59:39counterproductive rather than very

1:59:41productive. So that's how I basically

1:59:43evaluate that. I mean who who has an

1:59:46affair with a woman uh i.e. that's

1:59:50claimed to be a Russian spy i.e. Maria

1:59:53Betatina, which he did, had a sexual

1:59:56affair with her at the direction of the

1:59:58FBI. Um, that's pretty weird in my view.

2:00:02[laughter]

2:00:04>> It's your mission.

2:00:08>> Thank you, Barbara.

2:00:09>> Should you choose to accept it.

2:00:10[laughter]

2:00:12>> And for some people, it might be mission

2:00:14impossible. Who knows?

2:00:18>> Thank you. Thank you very much, KP Pal.

Josh: Turkey and the Realignment

2:00:20Thank you, Barbara and Susan. Uh, let me

2:00:21let me see if I can uh just say thank

2:00:24you Josh. Josh, hey gang, it seems the

2:00:27British are really panicking over

2:00:28sovereign nation stances of United

2:00:30States, Russia, Israel, most recently

2:00:31Bulgaria. I was wondering I wonder if

2:00:34they aren't trying to use Turkey to

2:00:36suddenly offset these sovereignty-minded

2:00:39nations.

2:00:42>> Uh, it's an interesting hypothesis, but

2:00:44I will be the very first to say, as I've

2:00:46said many times, uh, I am not an expert

2:00:49on Turkey. It is a very complicated c

2:00:52country. So I'm not going to try and

2:00:53attribute anything at this stage of the

2:00:55game. I think a I think a lot of things

2:00:57are being realigned though. I think your

2:00:59underlying hypothesis is right. There is

2:01:01a lot of realignment. You now have this

2:01:03new defense agreement between Turkey,

2:01:07Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. Um a lot of

2:01:10people have their hair on fire over

2:01:12that. Uh what where is that going to go?

2:01:15What is its intention? I'm I'm I'm not

2:01:18ready to pass judgment one way or

2:01:20another on it, except that it's in this

2:01:23world where Donald Trump has kicked over

2:01:27the post-war rules-based order. He has

2:01:30shattered that chessboard and everybody

2:01:33is scrambling. Some of it's coming from

2:01:35the empire. Some of it is maybe just

2:01:38countries saying, "Okay, well, we don't

2:01:39have to play by these idiotic super

2:01:41national rules anymore. We're going to

2:01:42figure out what's best for us." is

2:01:44what's best for them going to clash with

2:01:47what may be best for the United States

2:01:49at some point? Very possibly, but that's

2:01:52honestly how the world works.

2:01:57Thank you, Susan. Thank you, Josh. Uh,

2:01:59okay. Uh, I just want to say thank you,

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2:02:01Paul. Sorry I didn't get Excellent

2:02:03question, by the way. Sorry I didn't

2:02:05have time today. Thank you, Return to

2:02:08Beloved. Uh, Sally, I really appreciate

2:02:11your question. Um, we're going to be

2:02:13talking more about this again, looking

2:02:15into the data centers, finding the

2:02:17pro-China. How do we know what concerns

2:02:19are true and which are false? Right?

2:02:21That's exactly the kind of confusion

2:02:23they're trying to instill in Americans.

2:02:25What I just like to say, guys, everyone,

2:02:27if we didn't have data centers, we

2:02:28wouldn't have the show, right? You

2:02:30wouldn't have any of the modern

2:02:32conveniences that everyone loves, but

2:02:34they get on the internet and they start

2:02:35hating on data centers. So, sorry we

2:02:38couldn't treat your question more fully.

2:02:40Thank you, Melody Hart, for coming in

2:02:42today. Uh, Casket Dodger,

2:02:46was it planned to Was it planned to get

2:02:48both parents to work so they have a

2:02:50little time to vote? Being too busy,

2:02:51being out of the loop. Make sure you

2:02:53bring your family to vote, please. So,

2:02:56thank you very much, Casket Dodger, for

2:02:59joining.

2:02:59>> I want I want to I want to highlight our

2:03:01friend Chicky Rogue, who's one of our

2:03:03most loyal people, and he he really does

2:03:05try and keep an eye on the chat. He had

2:03:08a very very insightful comment because I

2:03:10know people said we had a lot of bots in

2:03:12there today. He said, "I want to thank

2:03:14all the foreign Aspen Institute summer

2:03:17interns who joined us today. Always

2:03:20amusing." [laughter]

2:03:22I think you nailed it, Chicky. Good

2:03:24work.

2:03:25>> I think Chicky may be female, but I'm

2:03:27not certain about that.

2:03:28>> Okay. All right.

2:03:29>> Either way, there. [laughter]

2:03:31>> Yes.

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