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— The Man in the Pudding Aisle

0:00In 1999, a civil engineer walked into a

0:03grocery store and legally stole $800,000

0:07from three major airlines.

0:09His name is David Phillips. His weapon

0:12wasn't a gun. It wasn't a computer. It

0:15was chocolate pudding. 12,150

0:18cups of it. Each one costing 25 cents.

0:22Three weeks later, he owned 1.25 million

0:26frequent flyer miles. Enough to fly

0:28first class around the world for the

0:30rest of his life.

0:32The airlines tried to stop him. Their

0:34lawyers searched every word of the

0:36contract.

0:38They found nothing. He had followed

0:40every rule. And here's the part that

0:42nobody believes. The US government ended

0:45up paying part of the bill.

0:47This is how one man found an $800,000

0:50loophole hidden inside a 25 cent pudding

0:53cup. And why 27 years later, he's still

0:56untouchable.

— The Mind of an Optimizer

0:58He's trained to find the one weak point

1:00that collapses the entire system. And in

1:02May 1999, he finds it. Hidden in a

1:06grocery store flyer. It starts with a

1:08grocery store flyer. Healthy Choice

1:11Foods is running a promotion. Buy 10

1:13Healthy Choice products, [music]

1:15mail in the barcodes, earn 500 frequent

1:18flyer miles. Most people see a coupon.

1:20[music]

1:21A mild incentive to buy a $2 frozen

1:23dinner.

1:24Phillips sees something else. He sees a

1:27pricing error. A mathematical anomaly. A

1:30system that has failed to account for

1:31the extreme edge case. Because the

1:34promotion doesn't specify which Healthy

1:36[music] Choice products qualify. It just

1:38says any Healthy Choice product. [music]

1:41Frozen dinners, canned soup, snack bars,

1:44pudding cups. And there's a bonus. Any

1:47barcodes [music] mailed by the end of

1:49May 1999 earn double miles. 1,000 miles

1:53for every 10 barcodes.

1:56Phillips does the math. If he can find

1:58the cheapest possible [music] Healthy

1:59Choice product, he can buy frequent

2:01flyer miles for pennies on the dollar.

2:04He starts hunting. Frozen dinners cost

2:06$2 each. Too expensive. Canned soup

2:09costs 90 cents. Better, but not optimal.

2:13Then he finds it. At a grocery outlet

2:16discount store, individual chocolate

2:18pudding cups are on clearance. 25 cents

2:21each. Each cup has its [music] own

2:23barcode. Each barcode qualifies for the

2:26promotion. The math is devastating. 10

2:29pudding cups cost [music] $2.50.

2:32They generate 1,000 frequent flyer

2:34miles. That's $0.0025

2:40per mile. One quarter of a cent.

2:43Airlines value miles at roughly 2 cents

2:45each. The market rate for a round trip

2:48ticket to Europe is 50,000 miles. At

2:51standard cash prices, that ticket costs

2:53$800 to $1,000.

2:56>> [music]

2:56>> Using Phillips pudding method, 50,000

2:58miles cost $125.

3:01He doesn't hesitate. He buys every

3:04pudding cup he can find.

— The Logistics of a Physical Hack

3:07Phillips has a problem. He needs 12,150

3:11pudding cups. And he needs them in 3

3:13weeks.

3:14Digital hacks scale instantly. One line

3:17of code runs a million times. But this

3:19hack is physical. Every pudding cup must

3:22be bought, [music] transported, and

3:24processed by hand. But there's a

3:26problem. A problem that could destroy

3:28the entire operation before it even

3:31begins. We'll get to that. First, he

3:34starts driving. He hits every grocery

3:36outlet, every discount store, every

3:39clearance aisle within 50 miles.

3:41Sacramento, Fresno, Stockton. He buys

3:45out entire inventories. When shelves are

3:48empty, he talks to store managers. He

3:50asks them to order more cases from the

3:52warehouse. The clerks start to recognize

3:55him. They call him the pudding guy. He

3:58needs a cover story. He tells them he's

4:00stockpiling for Y2K. The mass panic that

4:03computers would crash at midnight,

4:05January 1st, 2000.

4:08In 1999, hoarding pudding didn't seem

4:11crazy.

4:12Over 3 weeks, he accumulates [music]

4:1412,150

4:16pudding cups. His garage is packed floor

4:18to ceiling. His wife stares [music] at

4:21the towers of cardboard boxes.

4:23David, what are you doing?

4:26He shows her [music] the spreadsheet.

4:27The numbers. The math. This is insane.

4:31It's not insane. It's arbitrage. She's

4:34still skeptical. But she's also

4:36practical. And now the real problem

4:39reveals itself. The promotion requires

4:41physical barcodes.

4:42>> [music]

4:43>> He needs to peel 12,150

4:45labels off 12,150

4:48pudding cups. And he needs to do it

4:50before the end of May.

4:52He starts peeling. His wife helps. Not

4:55because she believes in the plan.

4:57Because she knows he can't do it alone.

4:59His kids help. They sit in the garage

5:02peeling labels, stacking pudding cups.

5:05Their fingers blister. Their hands

5:07cramp.

5:08>> [music]

5:08>> Blood under the fingernails. They're

5:10running out of time.

5:12Phillips realizes he can't do this

5:14alone. He needs help. And he's about to

5:16pull off a move so brilliant, the US

5:19government will end up paying him to do

5:20it.

— The God-Tier Tax Hack

5:25Salvation Army, how can I help you? I

5:27have 12,000 cups of pudding to donate. I

5:30just need the barcodes back. The

5:32barcodes? Thousands of dollars worth of

5:35food. Free.

5:37You peel the labels, return them to me

5:39by month's end. We have volunteers. When

5:41can you deliver?

5:43Tomorrow. [music]

5:45They need the food. They have the

5:46volunteers. It's a perfect trade.

5:49Phillips delivers the pudding. The

5:51volunteers start peeling. Within days,

5:5312,150

5:55barcodes arrive at his house in neat

5:57stacks. He mails them to Healthy Choice

6:00before the deadline. But the brilliance

6:02of this move isn't just the labor

6:04arbitrage. It's the tax code. Under US

6:07tax law, [music] donations to registered

6:09501c3 charities are tax deductible. The

6:13deduction is based on the retail value

6:15of the donated goods. The pudding cups

6:18have a retail value of 89 cents each.

6:20Phillips bought them for 25 cents each

6:23on clearance. But the IRS doesn't care

6:25what he paid. They care about the retail

6:27[music] value. 12,150

6:30cups at 89 cents each equals $10,813.50

6:33[music]

6:35in retail value. But Phillips is

6:38conservative. He claims an $815

6:41deduction on his taxes. That's $815 back

6:45from the federal government. A rebate on

6:47his initial $3,140

6:49investment.

6:50>> [music]

6:50>> His adjusted cost basis drops to $2,325.

6:551.25 million frequent flyer miles. For

6:59the price of a used car. And the US

7:02government just paid part of it. But

7:04Phillips doesn't understand what he's

7:06really hacked.

7:07>> [music]

7:07>> It's not a promotion. It's not even

7:09about pudding. It's something much

7:11bigger.

7:13To understand why this hack worked, you

— The Invisible Economy of Loyalty Programs

7:15need to understand what frequent flyer

7:17miles actually are.

7:18>> [music]

7:19>> They're not rewards. They're currency.

7:21And the people who print this currency

7:23aren't regulated like banks. They're

7:25airlines.

7:27Here's the secret nobody tells you.

7:29Airlines don't make money by flying

7:31planes. They make money by selling

7:33miles.

7:34Picture a Chase Sapphire card. Every

7:37time you swipe it, Chase pays American

7:39Airlines 2 to 3 cents for a mile. The

7:42airline creates that mile out of thin

7:44air. It costs them less than half a cent

7:46to fulfill when you redeem it. The

7:48profit margin is 300 to 500%. [music]

7:52A single pudding cup costs 25 cents. But

7:55when converted through this promotion,

7:57that same pudding cup [music] generates

7:59miles worth $8 in airline currency.

8:02That's a 3,200%

8:05markup. How is that possible? Because

8:07the system is built on a mathematical

8:09[music] error. The promotion was

8:11designed by marketing people who thought

8:13in terms of frozen dinners and canned

8:15soup. They never imagined someone would

8:18find the absolute cheapest qualifying

8:20product and [music] scale it to

8:21industrial levels. 2024. Delta,

8:25United, American, and Southwest

8:28collectively lost money flying planes.

8:31But they reported $14 billion in

8:33operating profits. Almost entirely from

8:36their loyalty programs.

8:38>> [music]

8:38>> Airlines are banks. They print currency.

8:41They control the supply. They set the

8:43prices. And they're almost completely

8:45unregulated. But here's what nobody

8:48tells you. These loyalty programs aren't

8:50just about flights. They're about data.

8:53Your boarding pass. Your hotel receipt.

8:56Your Uber ride. Every purchase you make

8:59with a co-branded credit card. It's all

9:01tracked, analyzed, sold. The miles are

9:04just the bait. The real product is you.

9:08This is the system David Phillips just

9:10hacked. [music]

9:11But the system doesn't like being

9:13hacked. And ConAgra is about to notice.

— The Corporate Response

9:16Phillips mails the barcodes in batches.

9:192,506

9:20envelopes. Each containing 10 barcodes.

9:23Each representing 1,000 miles.

9:26He sends them certified mail. He keeps

9:28copies of everything. Receipts, tracking

9:31numbers, proof of purchase.

9:33>> [music]

9:33>> He knows what's coming.

9:35When his submission arrives at the

9:36Healthy Choice Processing Center,

9:38someone notices.

9:3912,150

9:41barcodes. All from the same person. All

9:44mailed at once. ConAgra, the parent

9:47company of Healthy Choice, panics. They

9:49run the numbers. 1.25 million miles. At

9:54wholesale rates, that's $25,000 to

9:5637,500

9:58dollars worth of miles they have to

10:00purchase from the airlines for a 3,140

10:04dollar pudding purchase. Phillips spent

10:063,140

10:08dollars. The airlines valued what he

10:10received at over 800,000 dollars in

10:13travel. That's a 25,000%

10:16[music] return on investment in one

10:18month.

10:20Inside ConAgra's legal department, a

10:22team is assembled. They pull the

10:24original promotion documents. They read

10:26every word,

10:27>> [music]

10:27>> every footnote, every disclaimer.

10:30They're looking for an out. The

10:32promotion says, "Any Healthy Choice

10:34product." It doesn't specify a minimum

10:36purchase price. It doesn't exclude

10:38clearance items. It says, "Mail in 10

10:41barcodes." It doesn't say, "Maximum 10

10:44barcodes per household." It says, "Earn

10:46500 miles per submission." It doesn't

10:49cap the number of submissions.

10:51We just refuse.

10:53Claim fraud.

10:55He followed every rule.

10:57Then we change the rules.

10:59>> [music]

10:59>> Too late. The promotion already ran. If

11:02we deny him now, he sues.

11:05And he wins.

11:08So, what do we do?

11:10The lawyer closes the file. His face is

11:12unreadable. The meeting ends. No

11:15decision announced.

11:172,000 miles away, Phillips checks his

11:19mailbox.

11:20Empty.

— The Silence

11:22Weeks pass. Nothing. He checks his

11:25frequent flyer accounts daily. No miles.

11:28No confirmation. No acknowledgement that

11:31his submission was even received. He

11:33calls the Healthy Choice customer

11:35service line. The representative puts

11:37him on hold. 5 minutes. 10 minutes. 15.

11:41When she comes back, her voice is

11:43different. Careful.

11:45Your submission is being reviewed.

11:48Reviewed. That's corporate speak for,

11:51"We're trying to figure out how to deny

11:53you." Phillips hangs up. His wife

11:55[music] asks what's happening. He has no

11:58answer. His friends think he's been

12:00scammed. They tell him corporations

12:02always find a way to weasel out of

12:04promotions like this.

12:06Phillips starts to doubt himself. What

12:08if they're right? What if he missed

12:10something in the fine print? What if

12:12there was a cap and he just didn't see

12:13it? He pulls out the original promotion

12:16flyer. He reads it again and again.

12:18[music]

12:19There's no cap. He's sure of it. But,

12:22being right doesn't matter if ConAgra

12:24decides to fight him. His wife stops

12:27asking about the pudding. His friends

12:29stop calling. Dad, did they trick you?

12:32Phillips doesn't answer. He stares at

12:34the towers of empty pudding cups in his

12:36garage.

12:383,140

12:40dollars.

12:41Gone. Then, 2 months after his

— The Package

12:43submission, a package arrives. It's

12:45massive. Heavy. Phillips carries it

12:48inside. He opens it on his living room

12:50floor. Inside are 2,506 [music]

12:54certificates. Each one is worth 500

12:58frequent flyer miles.

12:59Phillips spreads them out. He [music]

13:01counts them. He double-checks the math.

13:041,253,000

13:07miles. It's real. ConAgra blinked. He

13:11won. But, there's one more gate. One

13:14system he still has to pass through. And

13:16he has no control over what happens

13:19next.

— The Final Hurdle

13:20Phillips stares at the certificates

13:22spread across his floor. They're real.

13:25They're valid. ConAgra honored them.

13:29But, they're still [music] just paper.

13:31The miles aren't his until they're in

13:33his account. And between now and then,

13:35there's a system he can't manipulate.

13:38Can't negotiate with. Can't outsmart.

13:40[music]

13:41The airlines fraud detection.

13:44He needs to move carefully. He deposits

13:46[music] 216,000

13:48miles across United, Delta, and

13:51Northwest accounts. Diversification.

13:54If one airline flags him, he still has

13:56the others. But, the bulk, 1,037,000

14:01miles, goes into his American Airlines

14:03AAdvantage account. He submits the

14:05certificates online. He waits for the

14:08system to process them. Hours pass.

14:11Nothing happens.

14:12He refreshes the page. Still processing.

14:16He waits another hour. Still processing.

14:18[music]

14:19Something is wrong. Normally,

14:21certificate deposits are instant. You

14:23enter the code, the miles appear. Done.

14:26But, his account has been stuck on

14:28processing for 3 hours. Phillips starts

14:31to panic. What if American Airlines is

14:34reviewing the deposit? What if they're

14:36flagging it as suspicious? What if

14:38they're about to reject the entire

14:40submission? He can't call customer

14:43service. What would he say? "Hi, I just

14:46tried to deposit a million miles from a

14:48pudding promotion. Why is it taking so

14:50long?" That would only make it worse.

14:53All he can do is wait. What Phillips

14:56doesn't know is what's happening 2,000

14:58miles away. In Fort Worth, Texas, an

15:01analyst at American Airlines

15:02headquarters is staring at her screen.

15:05Unusual account activity [music] alert.

15:08A single customer just submitted

15:091,037,000

15:12miles in certificates. All at once. All

15:15from the same promotion. The system

15:17flagged it automatically. She opens

15:20Phillips' account. She sees the lifetime

15:22gold status trigger queued. This is not

15:25normal. Corporate executives accumulate

15:28a million miles over 10 years. This guy

15:31did it in one day. Her finger hovers

15:33over [music] the fraud department

15:35extension. One call ends this. Then she

15:38pauses. She checks the certificate

15:40codes. All valid. All verified. All from

15:44Healthy Choice. She checks the promotion

15:47terms. No cap on submissions. No limit

15:50per customer. She checks Phillips'

15:52account [music] history. No previous

15:55fraud flags. No chargebacks. No

15:58suspicious activity. Everything is

16:00clean. She puts the phone down. She

16:03clicks approve. Phillips refreshes the

16:06page for the hundredth time. His account

16:08updates. Balance, 1,037,000

16:12[music] miles. And something else

16:14appears. Status, lifetime gold. Phillips

16:18stares at the [music] screen. He doesn't

16:20move. He's afraid if he refreshes the

16:23page, it will disappear. He screenshots

16:25[music] it. Just in case. He has no idea

16:29how close he just [music] came to losing

16:31everything. He just bought elite status

16:34for 2,325

16:36[music] dollars. Priority boarding. Free

16:39upgrades. Lounge access. Bonus miles on

16:43every [music] future flight. For life.

16:46Phillips has just hacked his way into

16:48the 1%. But, someone will beat this.

16:524 million miles. 0 dollars.

— The Perfect Hack

16:56Phillips tells a few friends. He shows

16:58them the account balance. They don't

17:00believe it. One of them knows a

17:02journalist at the Los Angeles Times. The

17:04article runs in August 1999.

17:07Man earns 1.25 million frequent flyer

17:10miles by buying pudding. It goes viral.

17:13CNN picks it up. The Wall Street

17:16Journal. Time magazine. International

17:18outlets. Phillips' [music] phone starts

17:20ringing. Reporters want interviews. Talk

17:23shows want him as a guest. He panics.

17:26What if ConAgra sees this? What if

17:28American Airlines sees this? But,

17:30nothing happens. ConAgra releases a

17:33terse statement. The promotion was

17:35honored as written. American Airlines

17:37says nothing. Phillips realizes why.

17:40It's too late. The story is published.

17:43If they revoke his miles now, [music]

17:44they look like the villain.

17:46Phillips is untouchable. He won. And

17:49he's not the only one paying attention.

17:51Phillips' hack goes viral in a different

17:53way. Travel hackers start hunting for

17:56the next loophole. But, Phillips doesn't

17:58know something. In 9 years, someone will

18:01beat his record. Not with pudding. Not

18:04with soup. Not with anything you can buy

18:06in a store. With something the US

18:08government will ship to your door for

18:10free. And this time, the hack will be

18:12four times bigger.

18:152008.

18:16The US Mint has [music] a problem.

18:18Americans won't use the new presidential

18:211 dollar coin. They prefer paper bills.

18:24So, the Mint [music] launches a

18:25promotion. Buy the coins online. Face

18:28value. Free shipping. Credit cards

18:31accepted. They're trying to get coins

18:33into circulation. They have no idea what

18:35they just did. Travel hackers see it

18:38immediately.

18:39>> [music]

18:39>> Buy 10,000 dollars in coins with a

18:41rewards credit card. Earn 10,000 miles.

18:45The Mint ships the coins for [music]

18:46free. Deposit them at your bank. Use the

18:49cash to pay off the credit card. Net

18:51cost, 0. Net reward, 10,000 miles. And

18:56there's no limit. One hacker buys

18:58100,000 dollars in coins. Then, 500,000

19:02dollars. Then, 1 million dollars. He

19:05accumulates 4 million frequent flyer

19:08miles before the Mint catches on and

19:10shuts it down in 2011. Phillips' record,

19:141.25 million miles for 2,325

19:18dollars.

19:19>> [music]

19:19>> The copycat, 4 million miles for free.

19:22The US government just funded an even

19:25bigger hack. And they paid [music] for

19:26the shipping.

19:28Phillips uses his miles differently. A

19:30few months after the story breaks, he

19:32sits down for a TV interview. And we're

19:35making a trip to Europe over Easter.

19:37We're going to go visit some friends in

19:38um near Milan in Italy. Then do a week

19:41in Barcelona. And then stop over in

19:43London to go see The Lion King for a

19:45night. His wife, Cindy. His daughters,

19:47Katie, 7, and Emma, 5. First class

19:51tickets to Europe, hotels, [music]

19:53experiences they'll remember forever.

19:55All because their dad spent $2,325

19:59on pudding.

20:01Over the next 7 years, Phillips takes

20:03his family to 40 countries. They see the

20:05world from the front [music] of the

20:07plane. He beat the system.

— The Question

20:10Listen, did your friends and family

20:12think you were absolutely nuts doing

20:14this? Cuz I kind of think you are. Yeah,

20:17they're they're used to they're used to

20:18me doing nutty things.

20:20>> [music]

20:20>> David Phillips' story is not really

20:22about pudding. It's about what happens

20:24when someone actually reads the fine

20:26[music] print. Is he a genius who beat a

20:29rigged system? Or is he a freeloader who

20:32exploited corporate generosity? [music]

20:34ConAgra honored the promotion. They

20:36followed their own rules. But they lost

20:39$25,000

20:41on [music] a 3,140

20:43pudding purchase.

20:44Phillips didn't lie. He didn't cheat. He

20:47didn't break a single rule. [music] But

20:49he took advantage of a mistake that was

20:51never meant for him.

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